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Title: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Apr 2015, 05:16
Okay, I admit that I might be running a bit dry in terms of ideas here. :-P Any decent ideas will be gratefully accepted. I really haven't got a clue where Jeph may choose to go next week because, as far as I can tell, most, if not all, the likely plot threads for him to follow are tied off. The only ones left are basically minor, so I'm thinking that he may start something completely new.

(Just to flesh out option (4) - What if Dora's family respond to her cutting Sven out of her life by disowning her? It isn't inconceivable and it could lead into an interesting exploration of Dora's past and her relationship with her immediate family.)

FWIW, I'd really like for the garden party in Jeph's cast picture from last year to happen for real. Something about the thought of Momo having to be Sam's straight... er... 'bot and teen-sitter tickles my funny bone.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 19 Apr 2015, 08:49
Re the option "Hannelore has to play the role of Abyssina when Arthur comes into CoD"  I've never been in a substance abuse encounter/self-help group, but wouldn't it be a very definite no-no for the organizer (or any other member)  to approach one of the members outside the group, and in front of her workmates to boot? (though I realize Hanners is not strictly speaking a member, the same should apply).
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Apr 2015, 09:02
He could come in by accident, thinking it was just another coffee shop.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 19 Apr 2015, 09:40
He could come in by accident, thinking it was just another coffee shop.

This. As far I know, he'd have no way of knowing where any of the members work (part of the anonymity - hell, who knows who else was using an assumed name in the meeting besides Hanners and Faye?) unless he'd seen them before. Or he's some kind of stalky creeper type, which, since there's been no indication at all that we've seen him before, isn't a likely scenario.

Unless Jeph's going to pull a 'Too Many Cooks' scenario - where you don't even realize the psycho killer's appeared a dozen times previous to the part where he starts hacking people up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 19 Apr 2015, 09:48
Quote
Emily and Claire talk boyfriends at work (aka 'filler')

I don't know about filler, could be, but depends how it's done. Maybe we could get more development out of Emily from this. She did slap a fool, but most of it was her smiling and being pretty while Clinton acted like a idiot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: amykathleen on 19 Apr 2015, 12:25
Re the option "Hannelore has to play the role of Abyssina when Arthur comes into CoD"  I've never been in a substance abuse encounter/self-help group, but wouldn't it be a very definite no-no for the organizer (or any other member)  to approach one of the members outside the group, and in front of her workmates to boot? (though I realize Hanners is not strictly speaking a member, the same should apply).

I went through a Partial Hospitalization Program for depression last year so I will tell you what the rules of my program were.  If two patients meet outside of the program, we must pretend we have never met before.  We are not to talk to one another unless and until we are introduced by a third party.  If a patient and a counselor meet outside of the program, the patient may approach the counselor, but the counselor may not approach the patient.  These rules still apply to me even though I am no longer a patient at that program.  So if I were employed and Scary Counselor Margaret came into my place of work, she could not be like "hello Amy, have you been sufficiently mindful today?" but I would be like "oh crap it's Scary Counselor Margaret TIME TO ESCAPE."  Assuming Faye's group follows similar rules, then Arthur couldn't be like "hello Abyssinia, nice to see you" but Hannelore probably would be like "HELLO ARTHUR MY NAME IS STILL ABYSSINIA oh no oh no".
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 19 Apr 2015, 14:28
Related to the comic's influence, from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/589886453041074176
Quote from: jeph
The writer of Dragon Age Inquisition came by and told me Claire was the inspiration for the trans character in that game :O
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 19 Apr 2015, 18:00
Arthur immediately knew fake names when he heard them. I doubt it's the first time it happened. He could let Hanners know she didn't have to keep up the charade: "Sometimes when people come in they don't want to share their real names. It's not a problem."

I'm thinking Faye's up for some story attention. She has no income stream, and will probably need to move out of her comfort zone to find employment. Could she start up a web business with Pintsize, maybe with content generated by Marten's mom? (ew). Or maybe something legit?

Or if not Faye, we could get hijinks with a chance meeting between MartenMom and ClaireMom. Imagine if MartenMom had something to do with ClaireMom's divorce.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Apr 2015, 18:55
Or if not Faye, we could get hijinks with a chance meeting between MartenMom and ClaireMom. Imagine if MartenMom had something to do with ClaireMom's divorce.

I think that'd be over the top for Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 19 Apr 2015, 18:56

Unless Jeph's going to pull a 'Too Many Cooks' scenario - where you don't even realize the psycho killer's appeared a dozen times previous to the part where he starts hacking people up.

Ahem.  She.
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Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 19 Apr 2015, 18:59
Or another she:
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Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Apr 2015, 20:44
Comic. The bird that yells.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 19 Apr 2015, 20:51
Jeph in Canada, his buffer exhausted.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 19 Apr 2015, 21:03
Apparently, Yelling Bird's supply of obscenities is exhausted as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 19 Apr 2015, 21:15

Unless Jeph's going to pull a 'Too Many Cooks' scenario - where you don't even realize the psycho killer's appeared a dozen times previous to the part where he starts hacking people up.

Ahem.  She.
(click to show/hide)
Or another she:
(click to show/hide)

ICWATUDIDTHAR.

Both of you  :wow:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Armades on 19 Apr 2015, 21:29
Maybe it's just me, or has the comic seemed to be getting less... graphic, lately? Pintsize seems to have chilled way out, Faye has mellowed (even though her drama quotient has gone a bit up) and even Yelling Bird is fairly tame. I might just be making a mountain out of a molehill though.

First post, please be gentle senpais.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 19 Apr 2015, 21:59

First post, please be gentle senpais.

One of us! One of us!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 19 Apr 2015, 22:23
Wait, what?!  Saskatoon fistbumps?  Why didn't anyone tell me this?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 19 Apr 2015, 22:24
First post, please be gentle senpais.

Fetch the Initiation Paddle!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Apr 2015, 22:40
I always thought Saskatchewan was made up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 19 Apr 2015, 22:44
I always thought Saskatchewan was made up.

It's real. People have found it's footprints and everything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Apr 2015, 23:18
Somebody really, really ought to warn Yelling Bird about the dangers of getting 'facts' from those particular parts of the Internet!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Apr 2015, 00:02
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2015, 01:20
'The national bird of Canada is the apology' - I'm dying.

Side note, one of the only things I ever found funny from That 70s Show:
Fes: I wish I could somewhere where there was no racial prejudice at all.
Kelso: Well that's Canada. Up there they're too busy playing hockey and putting maple syrup on hams to be prejudiced about anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 01:23
Somebody really, really ought to warn Yelling Bird about the dangers of getting 'facts' from those particular parts of the Internet!

Yelling Bird is those parts of the Internet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2015, 01:23
With nothing happening today, I thought I'd just mention some stuff that I'd like to see in future arcs in the strip:
Discuss!

Maybe it's just me, or has the comic seemed to be getting less... graphic, lately? Pintsize seems to have chilled way out, Faye has mellowed (even though her drama quotient has gone a bit up) and even Yelling Bird is fairly tame. I might just be making a mountain out of a molehill though.

Actually, I've got the feeling that this Yelling Bird strip is an unusual one. Normally, YB is something Jeph throws together in a few minutes on a bad day. Because of that, the monologue is usually an (obscene) stream-of-consciousness that doesn't really mean much to anyone except Jeph.

In this case, Jeph was saying on Twitter that he thought there'd be a YB because of the Calgary convention as early as two weekends back. I think that he planned this strip and scripted it well in advance, something that he normally doesn't do. That's why the jokes are... well... funnier and generally less obscene.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 20 Apr 2015, 03:19
Thanks for signing up for Canada Facts! You will now receive fun daily facts about CANADA! >o<
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 04:35
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2015, 05:04
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.

This is actually true of all so-called 'facts'. As codified in the Sosume Internet Debate Uncertainty Principle, there are no objectively-perceptible facts, only opinions and shades of perception which must be equally respected lest you turn a low-information poster with self-image issues into a defensive flamer.

The Susume Principle was named for the nearly-identical posts made by thousands of internet debaters the commonality of which indicates that this is a physical part of creation: "That's my opinion and that's how I feel! You don't like it? So sue me!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 20 Apr 2015, 05:07
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions apologies.

Isn't that more accurate?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Apr 2015, 05:23
Quote from: Canada
Soary
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 06:16
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions apologies.

Isn't that more accurate?  :-D

It's certainly true that Canadians apologize for having stongly-held opinions, so in this case there may not be a difference.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Apr 2015, 06:18
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions apologies.

Isn't that more accurate?  :-D
Even more accurate.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 06:21
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.

This is actually true of all so-called 'facts'. As codified in the Sosume Internet Debate Uncertainty Principle, there are no objectively-perceptible facts, only opinions and shades of perception which must be equally respected lest you turn a low-information poster with self-image issues into a defensive flamer.


Reasons why valkygrrl hates post-modernism vol. 1.

First rule of valkygrrl club: Reality is real.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 06:36
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.

This is actually true of all so-called 'facts'. As codified in the Sosume Internet Debate Uncertainty Principle, there are no objectively-perceptible facts, only opinions and shades of perception which must be equally respected lest you turn a low-information poster with self-image issues into a defensive flamer.


Reasons why valkygrrl hates post-modernism vol. 1.

First rule of valkygrrl club: Reality is real.

AH! But is reality just what we perceive? Our human perceptions are fallible, so does that mean reality is different for every person? If so, what is real?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Apr 2015, 06:52
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide,
No escape from reality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 07:02
Fact #1: There are no facts about Canada, only strongly-held opinions.

This is actually true of all so-called 'facts'. As codified in the Sosume Internet Debate Uncertainty Principle, there are no objectively-perceptible facts, only opinions and shades of perception which must be equally respected lest you turn a low-information poster with self-image issues into a defensive flamer.


Reasons why valkygrrl hates post-modernism vol. 1.

First rule of valkygrrl club: Reality is real.

AH! But is reality just what we perceive? Our human perceptions are fallible, so does that mean reality is different for every person? If so, what is real?

The answer to hard solipsism is it is impossible to know if I'm a brain in a jar so there's nothing lost in assuming reality is real.

If you mean perceptions can be flawed such as with some kinds of mental illness, there are ways to find out if your perceptions are wrong. Other people and the use of technology. If I think it is dark and no one else does, if a light meter says it is not then then problem is in my perception not with reality.  We check, we test, we measure, we prove. Unless you think all my inputs are screwed either on a hardware or firmware level at which point there's no point in worrying. If I only see lions, only feel lions, only hear and smell lions and nothing can get through and I can't even tell myself that there cannot be lions well, I'm well and truly screwed. Reality would still be real though and I'd really be locked in a rubber room.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 07:04
While it's fun to think about reality only existing as a fuzzy haze of occasionally-intersecting individual perceptual universes, you can't actually live your life that way. Though some people do seem to try.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 07:10
I was thinking more in line with the way memory works, or rather degrades. What we remember is equal to what we know, but if our memories are inaccurate, do we know what is?

I'm in favor of data, but things being subjectively valuable, it can't capture everything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 07:30
While it's fun to think about reality only existing as a fuzzy haze of occasionally-intersecting individual perceptual universes, you can't actually live your life that way. Though some people do seem to try.

Well, I mean, it's not when referring to the actual world. That's where science comes in to explain physics, chemistry, etcetera.

Individual dynamics, though, conscious minds... Yeah, I think you probably could.

Two people see the same thing, but due to their different biochemistry and past histories, they read different meanings into it. Two years later, assuming it was a shocking enough thing that they still think about it, they'll recall different details, mis-remember different things. If you asked them each to describe the scene, they'd paint two different pictures, but the thing is, neither of those pictures would be accurate.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 07:50
That's a different question. Reality is real. Memory and the mind are also real as they are stored as part of your brain's internal workings. I don't see anyone claiming memory is necessarily accurate.

Here's another way to look at it. I place a rock on a table. Then all of humanity and any other minds that happen in the universe disappear even what passed for a mind in rodents, and for fun plants will disappear too, nothing living and no sentient AIs.

The rock will still be on the table because the rest of the universe is still there even with nothing to perceive it, even with the concepts of rock and table gone those things would still exist. Because reality is real.

That which is, is
That which is not, is not

or to paraphrase Matt Dillahunty. ..

A is always equal to A. A is never equal to not A.

And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 08:37
My point is that memory is the only way we can experience anything that's not this exact moment in time. The facts of reality are solid; they don't change, but what is considered to be reality does, in fact. We know now not to give a pregnant woman thalidomide to help with morning sickness, but there was a time in the past when it was considered a good idea. It wasn't, but to them, it was.

Subjective "reality," is a good way to put it, the quotation marks indicating it's not the same as reality.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'd just like to suggest that the reality in the mind is different, not on a fundamental level, but in the nuances, from fact-based reality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2015, 08:57
See what you did, Jeph? One day of YB and the whole fucking forum's disappeared through a philosophical portal into what-the-fuck-is-going-on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 20 Apr 2015, 09:06
And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*

Is it that nobody talks about the valkygrrl club?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Knight of Cydonia on 20 Apr 2015, 09:51
Maybe it's just me, or has the comic seemed to be getting less... graphic, lately? Pintsize seems to have chilled way out, Faye has mellowed (even though her drama quotient has gone a bit up) and even Yelling Bird is fairly tame. I might just be making a mountain out of a molehill though.

First post, please be gentle senpais.

Less Funny More Feels seems to be the order of the day recent. Can't say I enjoy it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Apr 2015, 10:32
the whole fucking forum's disappeared through a philosophical portal into what-the-fuck-is-going-on.
This is new?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Apr 2015, 10:58
And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*

I thought the second rule of the valkygrrl club was "Don't ask about the second rule of the valkygrrl club."
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 20 Apr 2015, 12:10
My point is that memory is the only way we can experience anything that's not this exact moment in time. The facts of reality are solid; they don't change, but what is considered to be reality does, in fact. We know now not to give a pregnant woman thalidomide to help with morning sickness, but there was a time in the past when it was considered a good idea. It wasn't, but to them, it was.

Subjective "reality," is a good way to put it, the quotation marks indicating it's not the same as reality.

I don't disagree with what you're saying, I'd just like to suggest that the reality in the mind is different, not on a fundamental level, but in the nuances, from fact-based reality.

For a more detailed take on the same idea, you could try James Burke's old series "The Day The Universe Changed," which is on YouTube if you're interested. The premise of the series is that our view of reality is necessarily bounded by our model of what reality is. Learn something important that shifts your model of reality, and your whole universe changes with it. The series shows this happening over and over again through history. Burke himself is smart and funny, and the series is well worth your time (even if the YouTube version is slightly blurry).
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 20 Apr 2015, 13:35
To let understanding stop at what cannot be understood is a high attainment. Those who cannot do it will be destroyed on the lathe of heaven.
 -- Chuang Tzu
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Apr 2015, 15:49
And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*

I thought the second rule of the valkygrrl club was "Don't ask about the second rule of the valkygrrl club."

If so, we're violating it now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 15:58

I thought the second rule of the valkygrrl club was "Don't ask about the second rule of the valkygrrl club."

If so, we're violating it now.
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Well we aren't MEMBERS, now are we? Rules don't apply to us, do they, if we're not part of the system. It's like how Norwegian law doesn't apply to non-citizens who've never stepped foot in Norway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Apr 2015, 16:02
And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*

I thought the second rule of the valkygrrl club was "Don't ask about the second rule of the valkygrrl club."
It's "Asking about the second rule of the valkygrrl club changes the second rule of the valkygrrl club."

Or maybe I'm thinking of the Heisenberg club.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Apr 2015, 16:20
It could be Schrodinger's Boxing Club.... But then again, it might not be...
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 20 Apr 2015, 16:23
And Greebo went off like a Claymore mine.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 20 Apr 2015, 17:07
You can mine for Scottish broadswords?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 17:34
You can mine for Scottish broadswords?

It's inadvisable. You'll likely get kilt  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Apr 2015, 17:42
You can mine for Scottish broadswords?

It's inadvisable. You'll likely get kilt  :claireface:

Pun thread ===> Thataway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Apr 2015, 17:47
You can mine for Scottish broadswords?

It's inadvisable. You'll likely get kilt  :claireface:

Pun thread ===> Thataway.

I'm familiar with the pun thread. I have the most recent pun. I prefer bouncing off other people, and no one is there to bounce on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 19:37
It should be obvious,

The second rule of valkygrrl club is I was given the tiara. Kneel down, kiss the hem of my cloak and rise as our vassal.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 20 Apr 2015, 19:46
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/35/58/0d/35580d459910dc21a262007ee0385746.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 20:00
Rise, Sir Glad of Stone, most noble and ancient order of the Tiara. You may now append KVE (Knight of the Valkistanian Empire) to your name.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 20 Apr 2015, 20:12
It should be obvious,

The second rule of valkygrrl club is I was given the tiara. Kneel down, kiss the hem of my cloak and rise as our vassal.

Does the vassal in the castle bear the flagon with the dragon and the brew that is true?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 20 Apr 2015, 20:14
It should be obvious,

The second rule of valkygrrl club is I was given the tiara.
 Kneel down, kiss the hem of my cloak and rise as our vassal.

(http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2013/11/26/2f/d0/tmpVtJYBG-mdly-photo.gif)

Because I've not seen anyone say "No" to valkygrrl.

*edit*

Including me.
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/medakabox/images/e/e4/Zenkichi_forced_to_kneel.png/revision/latest?cb=20130829000355)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Apr 2015, 20:20
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDTbZSLaz3XiDI5J4WEA0P0wOhRGmprlXtRO3KFPl_bWZ8t5hv)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 20 Apr 2015, 20:35
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDTbZSLaz3XiDI5J4WEA0P0wOhRGmprlXtRO3KFPl_bWZ8t5hv)

(http://cbldf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/NEIL-GAIMAN_510x380-300x223.jpg)

Now bend the knee.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 20 Apr 2015, 21:43
Comic.

I see your day-old fried chicken, and raise you day-old goulash.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: TheRedMaiden on 20 Apr 2015, 21:50
All right, so I do love that the comic has multiple plot points going on at the moment, but I feel with so many subplots, one-off strips like these really just derail the comic to a frustrating degree, especially the day after a yellingbird strip :/
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 20 Apr 2015, 21:59
Second-day homemade vegetable soup, chili, or bean soup.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 20 Apr 2015, 22:05
Many compound foods benefit from having a day to form up. Veggie lasagne and homemade fruit pies are delicious both fresh and after a day, but waiting lets you cut out a piece without it turning into a shapeless mess. Homemade ice cream also needs about 12 hours to reach optimum consistency.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 20 Apr 2015, 22:08
What is this 'leftover' of which you speak?

Sent from my Xperia Z3

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 20 Apr 2015, 22:09
All right, so I do love that the comic has multiple plot points going on at the moment, but I feel with so many subplots, one-off strips like these really just derail the comic to a frustrating degree, especially the day after a yellingbird strip :/

I see it as just the opposite - for me, it's a welcome break from a number of long-form arcs.

It also might signal a change in focus. Maybe we'll get to see another set of characters for a while.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: DonInKansas on 20 Apr 2015, 22:33
I dunno guys, leftover meatloaf sandwiches are pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Apr 2015, 22:57
Fries from the previous days Fish and Chips

Shallow Fried and Soya Sauce added.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2015, 23:03
There are two key lessons from today's strip.

Firstly, Dale and Marigold have disagreements over the weirdest stuff.

Second, prior to being forced out into the open by Marten and Faye, time clearly weighed very heavily on Hannelore's hands! I can very easily see her, when she wasn't counting stuff for a living, carrying out detailed scientific investigations of things like this. I also can see her having solved in scientific terms the age-old question: "Tastes great or less filling?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Truec on 20 Apr 2015, 23:26
I'm with Hanners on this one.  Day old pizza is only good the morning after, and turns to shit immediately afterward.  Day old chinese food never seems as good as when it was fresh.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: T on 20 Apr 2015, 23:28
Day old curry is actually better than freshly made curry so if you are gonna cook curry cook a lot so you can eat it again next day. Or cook some but only eat it next day.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: icklebeccy on 20 Apr 2015, 23:32
Pffft. Day old BBQ pulled pork is where it's at!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 20 Apr 2015, 23:32
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 21 Apr 2015, 00:28
Does the vassal in the castle bear the flagon with the dragon and the brew that is true?

No, the pellet with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon borne by the vassal from the castle. You want the chalice with the palace.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 21 Apr 2015, 00:42
Day old prawn toast, brah.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 21 Apr 2015, 00:46
Hanners is technically right as far as things with English name goes. If you get a miniburger and smother it in batter and deep fry you get The Only Food that Objectively Tastes Better after it's been done for about a day. We call that "filete ruso" in Spain. And yes, I've looked for how it's named in English and I haven't found it.

And this is something that's true for anyone you ask. At my place we usually make like 40 of those bad boys to have food for a couple of days.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: KOK on 21 Apr 2015, 00:51
The disgusting should not be disputed. Or something like that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Doc on 21 Apr 2015, 00:56
Day old nasi goreng is the best, because you're already supposed to make it from leftovers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasi_goreng
Nasi goreng had the same beginnings as other versions of fried rice; as a way to avoid wasting rice. Frying the rice could prevent the propagation of dangerous microbes, especially in pre-refrigeration technology Indonesia, and also avoid the need to throw out precious food.[1] Nasi goreng is traditionally served at home for breakfast and it is traditionally made out of leftover rice from the night before.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 21 Apr 2015, 01:05
Does the vassal in the castle bear the flagon with the dragon and the brew that is true?

No, the pellet with the poison is in the flagon with the dragon borne by the vassal from the castle. You want the chalice with the palace.

Only because said vassal from the castle broke the vessel with a pestle did we need the flagon with the dragon. The chalice from the palace does indeed have the brew that is true.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: KOK on 21 Apr 2015, 02:23
I never understood the use of these rhymes. They do not tie together what needs to be tied. "The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison" rhymes just as well. They are no help.

And besides, the bomb is in the gateau from tha chateau with the candle with a handle, while the jug with the drug has the pill from the till.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 21 Apr 2015, 02:41
And no one asked about the second rule of valkygrrl club. *sniffle*

Is it that nobody talks about the valkygrrl club?

As with Klingon foreheads - we don't talk about that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Apr 2015, 03:22
So... Still quiet. Pray your pardon for a bit of self-indulgence.

WEDNESDAY (4-panel frame)
PANEL 1 (half height) - A pair of sneaker-wearing feet walking along a sidewalk in Northampton
PANEL 2 (half height) - Headshot of MARTEN, whistling
PANEL 3 (half height) - MARTEN's POV of ringing a doorbell
PANEL 4 (half height) - MRS A opening the door and looking out
MRS A: "Hello, Marten! Come in! Claire's just finishing getting dressed!"
PANEL 5 (half height) - MARTEN talking to MRS A in the lounge
MRS A: "So, isn't tonight the big party? I'm glad you talked Claire into going; she needs to socialise more!"
MARTEN: "Well, all I needed to do was remind her that all her friends will be there!"
PANEL 6 (half height) - MARTEN and MRS A now looking out of the panel at something
MRS A: "Friends that she only has because you persuaded her to come out of her shell. You're very good for... Ah, here she comes!"
PANEL 7 (full height) - CLAIRE coming down the stairs in a new outfit - horizontally-striped cardigan off one shoulder with the shoulder strap of her vest visible, long skirt, cut up to knee length on the left and her heeled boots.
MARTEN (off panel): "... whoa..."

THURSDAY - Six panel frame
PANEL 1 (page width) - MARTEN and CLAIRE walking along an autumnal Northampton street
MARTEN: "So, new look?"
CLAIRE: "I might mock Clinton about his new look but he was right; it was time to stop being the geeky, mousey Augustus kids!"
PANEL 2 - Close-up of MARTEN and CLAIRE walking hand-in-hand
CLAIRE: "Seriously, though, it was something I needed to do. I'm through apologising for being a woman!"
MARTEN: "Hey, you know me! I say you've got nothing to apologise for!"
PANEL 3 - Close-up on CLAIRE doing her teasing smile.
CLAIRE: [[Okay, I'm putting up my hands here - I don't know ANYTHING about Indie music -- Please take it as read that she makes an Indie reference to being proud of yourself that only an affectionado would really understand.]]
PANEL 4 - Close-up on MARTEN, grinning at CLAIRE
MARTEN: "An Indie reference! Where did this come from, Ms 'I don't know anything about Indie'?"
CLAIRE: "I have hidden depths Mr 'Encyclopaedia of Indie Music'!"
PANEL 5 - Rear view of the couple walking away from us
MARTEN: "Hidden depths, huh? Guess I'm going to have to go exploring tonight!"
CLAIRE: "Quiet you! If you get me hot now, I'm never gonna stop blushing all day!"

FRIDAY - Six-panel frame
PANEL 1 - MARTEN, carrying a four-pack of coffees and (and EMILY's 'smoothie') leaving CoD; CLAIRE is holding the door open; in the background, we can see HANNELORE working the espresso machine.
CLAIRE: "So, Faye's looking for a new job now?"
MARTEN: "She's got to; she had enough savings to meet last month's rent but she hasn't got enough this time."
PANEL 2 - MARTEN and CLAIRE walking through the town. There are few young people around, reminding us that school (and college) are in term
CLAIRE: "I think it's time she climbed out of that rut! She's spent too long sitting in the apartment and... well, basically just feeling sorry for herself!"
MARTEN: "It isn't that simple, Claire. Faye put a little bit of herself into that job and losing it has been losing a part of her."
PANEL 3 - MARTEN looking upwards thoughtfully; CLAIRE looks concerned
MARTEN: "When you're in this situation, it can be hard moving forwards again; it sometimes seems safer not to do anything. I know I felt that way after Dora and I broke up!"
PANEL 4 - MARTEN and CLAIRE standing in front of the library.
CLAIRE: "And here we are. Darn 'keep things professional' rule! What was I thinking?"
MARTEN: "There's only one way to handle something like this - Build up your reserves!"
PANEL 5 - Close-up of MARTEN and CLAIRE's lips touching.
PANEL 6 - MARTEN going into the library; CLAIRE is still at the bottom of the stairs, smiling in a goofy way
MARTEN: "I'll see you inside, Miss Augustus."
CLAIRE: "I'll be there, Mr Reed."

That's how I do Claireten when I've got too much time on my hands, BTW. :wink:

Just an explanation about Claire talking down Faye. I don't see them as being antagonistic in the future but I do think that they might be a bit frosty and 'arms length' for a while. Add onto that money worries and Claire could be critical of Faye thinking that she's only saying what Marten is too nice and loyal to say himself. Also remember that Claire can be judgemental, so I thought that her saying something like that was in-character.

As well as being a time skip forward a few weeks, this would be at the start of the 'Claire stays at the apartment over the weekend' arc idea I had. After the party, Claire is going to be staying with Marten and that means she and Faye are going to be pretty much forced to be in continual close contact for two days. The whole thing would be geared towards Claire and Faye coming to some sort of agreement (for Marten's sake if nothing else) that basically turns into a greater understanding of each other (both for them and us). It wouldn't be one-way either; Faye would call out Claire and vice-versa, all whilst trying not to get Marten involved.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 21 Apr 2015, 03:40
I am not a fan of day-old pizza or day-old Chinese at all. I might be a fan of day-old mac and cheese, if I ever ate it.

As T already posted, day-old curry is where it's at.

I dunno guys, leftover meatloaf sandwiches are pretty fantastic.

Also pretty good.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: gopher on 21 Apr 2015, 04:08
Day old Chicken Madras with a toasted day old Keema Nan is the best.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Apr 2015, 04:09
Day old pizza FTW - AINEC.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 21 Apr 2015, 04:19
ALL you guys are wrong.

The best tasting day-old leftover is:

Spaghetti and meatballs. (American style, since it doesn't seem to actually exist in Italy)

Because letting it sit in the fridge overnight lets the noodles absorb the flavor of the sauce, making it taste even better than the freshly made stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ChrisSayer on 21 Apr 2015, 05:06
The brilliance, of course, is in bringing Marigold & Dale together in this important debate, by providing a common enemy.

The question is, do we read this as Hannelore consciously being so wise?  ... or is it strictly Mr. Jacques playing Sun Tzu? ... or just serendipity? 
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 21 Apr 2015, 05:43
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???
That also made me think. Mac and cheese may contain antibacterial ingredients. But mass spectroscopy is not useful for detecting bacteria, so Hanners must have something else in mind. I would guess MS can be used to detect various tasty organic molecules, thereby establishing a scientific basis for Hanners' theorem.

A mass spectrometer must be used with a gas chromatograph (GC/MS instrument) in order to provide this kind of analysis. I would guess Hanners has an Agilent 5977A (http://www.chem.agilent.com/en-US/products-services/Instruments-Systems/Mass-Spectrometry/5977A-Series-GC-MSD-System/Pages/default.aspx) or equivalent somewhere in her apartment. Cost should not be a problem, but the instrument requires quite a lot of space  :mrgreen:

But I find it hard to believe that Hanners actually eats day-old food.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: badbum61 on 21 Apr 2015, 05:59
Experimental data is all very well, Ms Ellicott-Chatham, but where's your empirical evidence? Until I see you eat a day-old anything, your theory is just that.....a theory!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: T on 21 Apr 2015, 06:33
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???

The cooking process should sterilyze the food, if you are careful the you can avoid recontamination and if you reheat it to the boiling point before eating you can kill any germs dangerous that might have managed to get in in the interval. So the answer to your question: less than in salads.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Apr 2015, 06:57
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSDTbZSLaz3XiDI5J4WEA0P0wOhRGmprlXtRO3KFPl_bWZ8t5hv)

(http://cbldf.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/NEIL-GAIMAN_510x380-300x223.jpg)

Now bend the knee.
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2012/08/Neil-Peart.jpg)

Re: comic- Hanners cheated by bringing reheating into it. Leftover pizza should be eaten cold.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ThomasEll on 21 Apr 2015, 06:58
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???


Yeah I really can't see Hannelore eating day old anything haha
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 07:02
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???

The cooking process should sterilyze the food, if you are careful the you can avoid recontamination and if you reheat it to the boiling point before eating you can kill any germs dangerous that might have managed to get in in the interval. So the answer to your question: less than in salads.

Salads are a veritable petri dish compared to a lot of foods. Bean sprouts seem to be especially bad.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Baphomet on 21 Apr 2015, 07:57
I know this is just a silly argument that doesn't mean anything for the comic, but marigold is legitimately right. Pizza can be eaten the next day without issue. There are some (though I am not one of them) who claim it even tastes better. Chinese food, on the other hand, does not work the next day. Cold Chinese food is out of the question, obviously. And if you're reheating it, rice is notoriously difficult to microwave (something something starches water science?), veggies lose their crispness, meat gets rubbery, and it's all a serious offender for the "hot plate but cold food" issue. I don't like either but if I had to pick I'd take the pizza any day.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 21 Apr 2015, 08:38
Hanners is technically right as far as things with English name goes. If you get a miniburger and smother it in batter and deep fry you get The Only Food that Objectively Tastes Better after it's been done for about a day. We call that "filete ruso" in Spain. And yes, I've looked for how it's named in English and I haven't found it.

And this is something that's true for anyone you ask. At my place we usually make like 40 of those bad boys to have food for a couple of days.

Irish fish & chip shops  sell these under the name batterburgers (http://www.apriletakeaway.ie/Cheesy-Chips.html). They are generally regarded as only edible if you are drunk.  I never knew people anywhere else ate them -- or would admit it if they did.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Apr 2015, 08:55
They are generally regarded as only edible if you are drunk.

People eat strange things when drunk. About five years ago, there was a brief fad in London for eating Mars Bars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_%28chocolate_bar%29) deep fried in batter.

No, I don't know either. :?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 21 Apr 2015, 09:13
I believe that the deep-fried Mars Bars were originally a Scottish thing.  It makes some sense, since the American South has a rather large Scots-Irish population, and both cultures seem to deep-fry anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Apr 2015, 09:15
Just an explanation about Claire talking down Faye. I don't see them as being antagonistic in the future but I do think that they might be a bit frosty and 'arms length' for a while. Add onto that money worries and Claire could be critical of Faye thinking that she's only saying what Marten is too nice and loyal to say himself. Also remember that Claire can be judgemental, so I thought that her saying something like that was in-character.

This makes a lot of sense. We have no evidence money was an issue in Claire's parents' divorce, but it usually is. We know for a fact that Claire carries baggage about her father's conduct. If she thought Faye was sponging off Marten, there's great potential for conflict.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Apr 2015, 09:27
They are generally regarded as only edible if you are drunk.

People eat strange things when drunk. About five years ago, there was a brief fad in London for eating Mars Bars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_%28chocolate_bar%29) deep fried in batter.

No, I don't know either. :?

I've seen deep fried butter alongside the usual panoply of deep-fried stuff (Oreos, Twinkies, Snickers, ice cream, cheesecake, etc.). Somehow I get the feeling that's one of those "only in America..." things.

Aside from things that should never be reheated (fish, anything in a cream sauce, takeout pasta dishes), lots of things taste better the second day. Especially home-made chili.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 21 Apr 2015, 09:33
My chili doesn't taste its best until about day 3, IMO.

And that's after 8-10 hours in the crock pot on low!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Apr 2015, 09:35
I believe that the deep-fried Mars Bars were originally a Scottish thing.  It makes some sense, since the American South has a rather large Scots-Irish population, and both cultures seem to deep-fry anything.

Indeed. A few years ago, while we were visiting the North Carolina State Fair and observing the astonishing variety of deep-fried foods, I made a joke about "healthy Fair food: deep-fried tossed salad".  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Apr 2015, 09:58
Oh.

"Filete ruso" is better known here in the states as "Salisbury Steak" - aka hamburger with gravy and without the bun.

That stuff isn't good the first day, let alone the second.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 21 Apr 2015, 10:09
When (and how) did Marigold develop her overbite? She used not to have one e.g. http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1419 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1419)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: folxnumeroso on 21 Apr 2015, 10:29
Day old cold lasagna.

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 10:37
Day-old Jambalaya, cooked right, still cold. If you disagree, you ain't been to the right parts of Louisiana.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 21 Apr 2015, 10:39
Day old nasi goreng is the best [...]

I misread this as 'Nazi Göring' at first.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: theMarc on 21 Apr 2015, 10:44
Gonna have to rank reheated food like so: mac & cheese, Chinese, pizza.  Both Chinese and mac & cheese have the capacity to taste better on the second day, but there's no such thing as leftover pizza that is better than it was fresh from the oven.

And Jeph, what's this blasphemy you're trying to sell about day-old fried chicken?  I'm a black man, which of course means that I automatically know the proper way to eat fried chicken.  If you ever find yourself with more fried chicken than you can eat, you don't refrigerate the rest, you share it with a brotha' who's still hungry.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Apr 2015, 11:02
Like I said before, you don't reheat pizza. If you don't eat it while it's still hot, you eat it cold or not at all.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 21 Apr 2015, 11:06
Leftover cold pizza is epic.

Leftover reheated pizza just sounds disgusting.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Apr 2015, 11:21
When (and how) did Marigold develop her overbite? She used not to have one e.g. http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1419 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1419)

Bitten by a wild Claire during a full moon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Baphomet on 21 Apr 2015, 12:56
Both Chinese and mac & cheese have the capacity to taste better on the second day[...]
How? I ask legitimately as a guy who has leftover Chinese in my fridge at this very moment. The best leftover Chinese I've ever had has only been mildly worse than the same dish fresh.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Apr 2015, 13:24
Leftover cold pizza is epic.

Leftover reheated pizza just sounds disgusting.

Depends how you reheat. Personally, I usually have mine cold, but if you do it in a convection oven it's decent.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: katwyld on 21 Apr 2015, 13:48
Day old reheated meatloaf is awesome (at least mine is).

Day old reheated stuffed shells (think mini-lasagnas) are better tasting than they are fresh from the oven.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 21 Apr 2015, 15:39
I'll just assume you had the wrong patty handlers and move along.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: DonInKansas on 21 Apr 2015, 15:57
Day old reheated meatloaf is awesome (at least mine is).


My wife is in process of fixing meatloaf for dinner.  I am way more excited about tomorrow's meatloaf sandwiches than I am for tonight's meatloaf.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Apr 2015, 16:26
Cold Roast Chicken from the Sunday Roast

Or, if you prefer, Lamb.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 16:39
I'm a black man, which of course means that I automatically know the proper way to eat fried chicken.

I don't get this stereotype. I've met exactly two people in my 22 years of living who don't love fried chicken, and they were black. I'm a level of caucasian that makes Forrest Gump look like Samuel L Jackson, and I can and have eaten an entire fried chicken in one sitting.

I don't often have leftover fried chicken, but if someone gives me theirs, the trick is microwave that deliciousness. Heats up the grease, the skin is soggy, MMMM!

I get where Jeph is coming from, even if I don't know how that happens. Why would you stop eating the chicken.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 21 Apr 2015, 17:13
I'm a black man, which of course means that I automatically know the proper way to eat fried chicken.

I don't get this stereotype. I've met exactly two people in my 22 years of living who don't love fried chicken, and they were black. I'm a level of caucasian that makes Forrest Gump look like Samuel L Jackson, and I can and have eaten an entire fried chicken in one sitting.

Well, now you've Internet-met a third.  Sterile gauze stands in awe of my whiteness.  I am Texan.  Fried chicken is... meh.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 17:20
  I am Texan.  Fried chicken is... meh.

If you eat it at all, you do more than these two.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 17:22
Met them both in college, where the cafeteria was limited to one main course with two sides and a salad bar. I always got three main course on Wednesdays :)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 21 Apr 2015, 17:34
Wait, there's people in the world who don't like chicken? THAT is a new. Seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 17:38
Wait, there's people in the world who don't like chicken? THAT is a new. Seriously.

This was my first response. My second was to ask if I could have theirs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Apr 2015, 17:45
I don't understand reheating it, though. Cold fried chicken is awesome, especially for breakfast.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 17:59
I don't understand reheating it, though. Cold fried chicken is awesome, especially for breakfast.

Eh, different strokes. Sometimes, it's better, sometimes not, it depends on how thick the breading surrounding the chicken is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:01
I've put more thought and consideration into the many variables surrounding the tastiness of chicken than I should have. It's a problem. I have a reputation for chicken eating in certain areas of the country.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:03
I should clarify: these are very small areas, and limited only to the people who know me by name
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 21 Apr 2015, 18:04
I would never know about cold fried chicken. THERE'S NEVER ANY LEFT.

Seriously. You could deep-fry a whole chicken and I'd eat it.
I should clarify: these are very small areas, and limited only to the people who know me by name

Well, obviously. I don't think you go by "chaospersonified" outside of tha internetz, same with me with osaka (and/or riverside, sometimes)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 21 Apr 2015, 18:24
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:26
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.

Son, don't make stupid jokes. You don't buy a 'turkey minus beak and feet' at Thanksgiving, you buy a damn turkey. The same shit applies to chicken. They're birds. They eat seeds and shit on cars. They taste delicious. Same thing, far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 21 Apr 2015, 18:26
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.

a few days in the soup pot and they'll dissolve.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:27
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.

a few days in the soup pot and they'll dissolve.

What the fuck are you using as broth, hydrochloric acid
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:29
I mean damn, if we're counting marrow as bone, then motherfricker, I'll eat that too! But the crunchy part of the bone? Does that dissolve?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 21 Apr 2015, 18:33
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.

a few days in the soup pot and they'll dissolve.

What the fuck are you using as broth, hydrochloric acid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_water_oxidation

Edit after about a 24 hour simmer bones in my soup pot get mushy and the ends turn to powder between my fingers. If you switch to a crock pot and give it a few days.....

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 18:38
The beak and bones could be a bit hard to swallow/digest.

a few days in the soup pot and they'll dissolve.

What the fuck are you using as broth, hydrochloric acid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_water_oxidation

Now lookee here. I been drinking, I'll admit, but the only thing I'm getting from this is that it's a way to get rid of hazardous waste! Bones are organic, they will decay safely over time, thereby disqualifying them from being hazardous!

(I'm kidding. Except for the drinking part. I'm not so far gone as to not notice people picking legit holes in my statement. Though I should say, WHO THE FUCK SPENDS STRAIGHT DAYS WITH THE STOVE ON THAT WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 21 Apr 2015, 19:00
Though I should say, WHO THE FUCK SPENDS STRAIGHT DAYS WITH THE STOVE ON THAT WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN)

You must understand that there are always a few people who refuse to bend the knee and.... sometimes there are bones to get rid of okay?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 21 Apr 2015, 19:06
And here I was using a pit of quicklime to get that job done like a sucker.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 21 Apr 2015, 19:30
Day old mac & cheese is the worst.  It gets all grainy.

The best is day old meatloaf, served cold in a sandwich.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: amykathleen on 21 Apr 2015, 19:31
Hannelore, do you KNOW how many germs are in leftover food???
I'm certain that Hannelore, like me, has read the entire USDA Food Safety website and knows that leftovers must be cooled (as quickly as possible, and no longer than 2 hours after they were cooked) to below 40 degrees Fahrenheit (as confirmed with a refrigerator thermometer), then reheated to a minimum of 165 degrees Fahrenheit (as confirmed with a food thermometer) before they are consumed.  I suspect Hannelore does not realize that this information is not common knowledge.
(Source: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/danger-zone-40-f-140-f/ct_index)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 21 Apr 2015, 19:32
Comic, and actual dribblings of plot!  Progression!  My essay wasn't all for naught!  Excellent...
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 19:45
Aaaaand Tai is high as fuck. Methinks the major conflict of the moment won't be between Claire and Faye, but between Claire and Tai, and her lack of respect for her own job and total lack of work ethic.

You have to admit, Tai gets high at work -a lot-. If someone smokes weed occasionally, fine, but personally I generally have a poor view of people who seem to light up as much as she does.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Apr 2015, 19:50
And then Claire graduated and moved to new york.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 21 Apr 2015, 19:53
I'm a little torn.  I love day old KFC.  I almost never have KFC because it's so darned expensive, but there you go.

On the other hand, Vern's Mama Mia pizza is also fantastic day old.



Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 19:53
If someone smokes weed occasionally, fine, but personally I generally have a poor view of people who seem to light up as much as she does.

Omega, this upsets me. Though I haven't had the pleasure even once since I've been a part of these forums, if I had my druthers, I'd be on the next plane more often than not, and I'm sad to see you looking down on such behavior.

It's not how often Tai tokes up, it's how little she considers the consequences. For fuck's sake, chick, you're at fucking WORK.
 BLAZE IN YOUR OWN GODDAMN TIME OKAY?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Apr 2015, 20:01
But.. she offered to give Claire a gold star? What more can you ask?

Honestly, I don't think Tai is high here. She just knows how (over) seriously Claire takes working at the library and likes to poke fun at it. She's probably had this joke primed and ready to go for a while now, with a proper evaluation ready to be sent.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Near Lurker on 21 Apr 2015, 20:02
Reading her evaluation?  Claire, you should know better! :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Apr 2015, 20:04
Honestly, I don't think Tai is high here.

She's got the high eyes.

It's also 4/...21.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 20:09

She's got the high eyes.

It's also 4/...21.

Do not underestimate the effect 4/20 can have on the willing portion of the populace. I've only been capable of participating in the one, 2 years ago, but I promise you, the next day I was level as a ship, looking high as a kite. Appearance carries over, even when the high does not
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 20:17
If someone smokes weed occasionally, fine, but personally I generally have a poor view of people who seem to light up as much as she does.

Omega, this upsets me. Though I haven't had the pleasure even once since I've been a part of these forums, if I had my druthers, I'd be on the next plane more often than not, and I'm sad to see you looking down on such behavior.

It's not how often Tai tokes up, it's how little she considers the consequences. For fuck's sake, chick, you're at fucking WORK.
 BLAZE IN YOUR OWN GODDAMN TIME OKAY?

It been my personal experience that (most) people who spend a large amount of time high aren't very productive - and usually annoy me. There are exceptions, of course, but that's mostly what I've seen. If that makes you dislike me, so be it.

On the latter part, the frequency of her toking up at work can be an indication of  a larger disregard for boundaries than previously thought. Of course, we already knew she had a major problem with those, so....


She's got the high eyes.

It's also 4/...21.

Do not underestimate the effect 4/20 can have on the willing portion of the populace. I've only been capable of participating in the one, 2 years ago, but I promise you, the next day I was level as a ship, looking high as a kite. Appearance carries over, even when the high does not
I think her appearance here goes far beyond that. Comp!etly bloodshot eyes and major bags under the eyes are a pretty big tell.

And in a visual medium, if and artist wants to portray 'high as  kite' without saying as such, this is a perfect example of how to do so. Why bother with even making her look like that, if it's not intended to come across as being high? It'd be like drawing lots of smoke, but there being nothing on fire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 21 Apr 2015, 20:27
I suspect if Claire wants a "proper" evaluation, she'll have to write it up herself. Then have Tai sign it. (Which she'll be happy to do.)

I've never seen any indication that Tai takes her position at all seriously. Marten, Claire, Emily, Momo et al have had a free hand to do whatever they like, which fortunately includes keeping the place going. As deadwood goes, Tai is fairly benign.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Apr 2015, 20:28
Omega, it doesn't upset me. People are idiots, even when they aren't high. High people just let their idiocy be more known. As to my own experience, slightly-high me makes normal me look like a lazy bum. So much shit gets done if I'm in that golden space between barely-high and stoned-off-my-ass.

Bags under-the-eyes indicate lack of sleep, which can otherwise be suggested by bloodshot eyes. If we didn't know Tai's history of marijuana usage, all of this would indicate nothing. We saw Marten with bags beneath his eyes dueing the Faye-pocalypse, yet no one suggested he was high.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 21 Apr 2015, 20:29
But.. she offered to give Claire a gold star? What more can you ask?

Honestly, I don't think Tai is high here. She just knows how (over) seriously Claire takes working at the library and likes to poke fun at it. She's probably had this joke primed and ready to go for a while now, with a proper evaluation ready to be sent.

I'm not sure if she's high or not either.  She's always disinterested in her work, but Jeph did draw her eyes somewhat redder than Claire's.  Maybe that's a visual clue.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 20:38
Omega, it doesn't upset me. People are idiots, even when they aren't high. High people just let their idiocy be more known. As to my own experience, slightly-high me makes normal me look like a lazy bum. So much shit gets done if I'm in that golden space between barely-high and stoned-off-my-ass.

Bags under-the-eyes indicate lack of sleep, which can otherwise be suggested by bloodshot eyes. If we didn't know Tai's history of marijuana usage, all of this would indicate nothing. We saw Marten with bags beneath his eyes dueing the Faye-pocalypse, yet no one suggested he was high.
Paragraph one:  :-)

As for the latter, her eyes are decidedly pink :-p
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Apr 2015, 20:43
I've often wondered what Tai has on the Library Administration that makes it possible for her to maintain her position there.

I envisage some minor drama here from Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 21 Apr 2015, 20:44
I'm a little torn.  I love day old KFC.  I almost never have KFC because it's so darned expensive, but there you go.

On the other hand, Vern's Mama Mia pizza is also fantastic day old.

[youtube embeds]

The amount of toppings on those pizzas is ridiculously excessive.  Or excessively ridiculous.

And I would pay any price for one with a gluten-free crust.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 21 Apr 2015, 20:48
Tai's high as a kite.

Wondering if this is the next bit of drama coming up. Will Dora react to Tai's chemical dependency as strongly as she did to Faye's? Tai's not a COD employee, so her being a stoner doesn't threaten Dora's livelihood. But arguably, as Dora's SO, Tai's overuse of weed (and if she's showing up to work high, it's overuse) could have an even more profound impact on Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 21 Apr 2015, 20:57
Meh, forget Dora.  This is part of Claire's arc.  She's been serious about her internship from day one, and Tai just showed how little it mattered to her.  Sure, she may have been joking, but signs point to her being high as balls.  Pair that with her previous lackadaisical attitude about library business, and I think this is the beginning of a major feud.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 21 Apr 2015, 21:10
Wait, there's people in the world who don't like chicken? THAT is a new. Seriously.

I don't like chicken. But that's because I like to eat things that can kill me in a fight. Except seafood, because I am allergic to it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: grez on 21 Apr 2015, 21:48
Perhaps a more interesting question than what Claire thinks about Tai: If Claire's recommendations are going to library jobs or library science schools away from Northampton, will Marten be faced with the same choice that Faye had to make? How will his decision differ from or be similar to Faye's?

I think we're being set up for some interesting parallels here.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 21 Apr 2015, 21:55
Perhaps a more interesting question than what Claire thinks about Tai: If Claire's recommendations are going to library jobs or library science schools away from Northampton, will Marten be faced with the same choice that Faye had to make? How will his decision differ from or be similar to Faye's?

I think we're being set up for some interesting parallels here.

Oooh, hadn't thought of that.  My assumption has always been that Claire would continue working at Smif, but I like where you're going with this.  Although it seems rather soon in the relationship--as intimate as they've been so far, I can't see Claire (or Marten) choosing a week-old relationship over a great job opportunity, or Marten uprooting his life (again) to follow Claire for same.  Much better plotwise if this happens a few months (in-comic) down the road.  Claire gets hired on at Smif first, then sees an opportunity to transfer...

*Starts giggling madly*
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Apr 2015, 22:06
Well, Marten doesn't have Faye's issues complicating a move, and he's expressed some dissatisfaction with his job at the library. So in those ways he has less holding him to the area that Faye had. On the other hand, he's friends and Mother live in town, his band lives and practices there. So there's also no real reason for him to leave that behind either. More to the point though, Claire has more connections to the area and reasons to stay for now than Marten does. Mostly the fact that she's still a student as SMIF and probably will be for another year or two at least. Now I could see her maybe going to another school for grad studies, and possibly moving to another town to take a library position... but by the time that rolls around Claire and Marten will have either broken up, or be thinking that it's something serious. Which would make a big difference in the decision process.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Dicrostonyx on 21 Apr 2015, 22:10
My impression of Tai has always been that she takes individual things seriously or not based on what is important to her, not based on social norms or expectations. For the purposes of the job, that means that all of the work gets done, students are given needed help, etc., but she doesn't bother with dress codes or other elements of traditional formality. I don't see her as someone who would get high at work often, if at all.

This is, for example, why she was willing to hire Marten immediately and has kept him on. If she were high all of the time he likely wouldn't have remained working there for long, either by his choice or her randomly changing her mind. Instead, she hired him because she had a good feeling about him as a person, which has been borne out by his willingness to learn and do the job rather than to simply coast. She did not worry about his experience or long-term ambitions, because neither affects her view of the world.

Working on this assumption, I think that the "good job" review is basically a joke. She may ask the interns to write their own evaluations, or to write them for each other, but she has probably already written real ones and would use that exercise as a test.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 22:24
Except we have empirical evidence in-comic that Tai -does- get high at work on at least a semi-regular basis, and not just on weed. I don't recall what substance she was on when she was seeing Marten and... I think it was Hanners? as dragons.

As for taking personal things seriously, I'd have to disagree, as evidenced by, for example, her lack of taking Marten's warning about messing with Hanners seriously after he tried at least twice to try and get her to do so. There's more examples, but that one's the first to come to mind.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Apr 2015, 22:40
On the other hand, he's friends and Mother live in town, his band lives and practices there.

Marten might be better off with a reasonable distance between him and his overbearing mother.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 21 Apr 2015, 22:53
I've often wondered what Tai has on the Library Administration that makes it possible for her to maintain her position there.

I envisage some minor drama here from Claire.
A similar one to the one that (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1133) gave Marten a raise (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1134)?

As a side note, the only guy I've known that smoke weed during work was let go, not so much because of the weed but more because his language deteriorated into cluster f-bombs, sometimes interrupted by normal words, when he was high. He even sent emails to people that were impossible to read because of the extreme ratio of naughty words to actual content (well over 10:1).
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 21 Apr 2015, 22:56
Except we have empirical evidence in-comic that Tai -does- get high at work on at least a semi-regular basis, and not just on weed. I don't recall what substance she was on when she was seeing Marten and... I think it was Hanners? as dragons.

LSD.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Toe on 21 Apr 2015, 23:05
A Jorb Well Done (http://www.homestarrunner.com/cantsayjob.html) (because I was reminded of it and feel like linking it)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 21 Apr 2015, 23:11
Except we have empirical evidence in-comic that Tai -does- get high at work on at least a semi-regular basis, and not just on weed. I don't recall what substance she was on when she was seeing Marten and... I think it was Hanners? as dragons.

LSD.
Thank you!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Apr 2015, 23:38
There is an interpretation of the strip where Tai gave Claire a flyer for a 'carnal playground' being held at the library as being Tai mocking how seriously Claire takes the job (the proof being the flyer having the exact same wording as Claire's rant in the strip). So, it's possible that this is Tai poking fun at how seriously Claire takes her internship. It wouldn't surprise me if she has proper evaluations written (and what could she possibly say about Emily?).

After all, Claire does take this seriously; her final grade depends on it! It doesn't seem in-character for Tai to be that callous.

However, the point made up-thread about Tai not caring about things that she doesn't think of as personally important is true. It's quite possible that she finds Claire's goals and priorities so alien that she can't take them seriously. Maybe, to her, the library is an elegant dodge to avoid getting a proper job where her lifestyle would be impeded and she can't see how anyone could view it differently.

Optimistically, Tai is going to give Claire a lecture on being less uptight and then tell her that the evaluation has already been filed.

Pessimistically, Tai has no interest in it. When Claire tries to explain how important it is to her dreams, Tai mocks her or dismisses the idea as stupid. "You need to get a life, Shorty!" She suggests that, if it's so important to her, she'll get Marten to 'throw something together' (can you say 'conflict of interest'?). Worst case, Claire loses her temper and Tai dismisses her for dragging her down from her high too quickly. Marten or Emily hear about it and the entire staff quit, going to complain to the Board of Trustees. Their complaint is identical to Gabby's and Tai finds herself in hot water that she is emotionally ill-equipped to deal with. Complications follow.

Honestly, this latter option is too dark for Jeph. One alternative that I can see is Claire breaking down and having an anxiety attack. Tai is shocked that anyone could take this so seriously and has a little crisis of her own as she tries to calm down a hyperventilating Claire. She later has a conversation with Dora on the subject and begins to realise just how harmful her self-centered and hedonistic mindset is to her friends.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 22 Apr 2015, 00:19
Either a real evaluation has been submitted to the proper people, or Claire's going to take Tai to task. I think I consider the latter to be more likely, as most relevant plot in this strip evaporates if Tai was just pulling Claire's leg.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 22 Apr 2015, 00:56
Tai will tell Marten that since he's been supervising the interns, he should write their evaluations. Drama ensues.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 22 Apr 2015, 01:00
Either a real evaluation has been submitted to the proper people, or Claire's going to take Tai to task. I think I consider the latter to be more likely, as most relevant plot in this strip evaporates if Tai was just pulling Claire's leg.

I'm hoping that it is a joke on Tai's part, as we've had quite a bit of long, plot driven strips lately. Personally i think a week of one off, gag strips with no big plot-line, is just what the doctor ordered.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Khazgar on 22 Apr 2015, 01:12
I also think that it is a joke (although you never quite know with Tai). But what interests me is what Claire wants to do next. How long is she studying for? What are her plans? Does she want to stay in Northampton? Finishing her internship is one more step along a road that most of the other characters (Marten included) don't seem to be terribly bothered about taking.

It might take a while but there will be interesting times ahead and possibly stormy seas for Marten and Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2015, 01:26
I suspect that tomorrow will be four panels of Claire ranting before, in panel 5, she flees Tai's office in tears with a parting cry of: "Thanks for fucking up my life, Boss!". Panel six will be a close up of a horrified Tai's face and her whispering: "Oh fuck...! She's serious!"

Friday will see Marten storming into Tai's office to tear her a new one to find her slaving over her PC and clearly under a lot of stress. It turns out that Tai has never written a report or done anything seriously work-related before (having copied and pasted her way through her Liberal Arts degree for a bare-minimum graduation, mostly thanks to a professor who is as much as a stoner as she is). She's in a panic; she doesn't know what to do but she can't let Claire down like that!

Marten will spend two panels gently explaining to her that, really, all she has to do is write down her impressions of Claire the Librarian and Claire the person, good and bad. Momo has already found a blank template, so there's no need to worry about formatting. "I'm sure you'll manage," he'll conclude in panel 5. "In fact, I wonder if you'll surprise yourself!" Panel six will be Tai sitting at the keyboard with an insert of the start of a Word document - "Internship Report for Claire Augustus".

I think that next week will be entirely Tai's report on Claire as a narration whilst the art will be dialogue-free panels illustrating what Tai is writing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: rfrank dodelijk on 22 Apr 2015, 01:27
is marten an intern or does he just work as some sort of general library slave?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2015, 01:29
is marten an intern or does he just work as some sort of general library slave?

I'm not sure of Marten's specific job title, but I think he's Tai's assistant and a full employee of the college rather than an intern. He's probably got a fancy job title like 'Office Administrator' or 'Head Librarian's Administrative Assistant' or something like that.

Functionally, the experience he has gained over the last year or so would likely qualify him to stay on in a purely admin role (at least officially) if Tai were to suddenly quit or be fired for dropping the ball with the interns. Officially, he'd have no 'librarian' role but, given how he inducted the three interns, I think he knows enough about that end of the operation too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 22 Apr 2015, 02:01
The job title is usually Library Assistant.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 22 Apr 2015, 02:53
Honestly, I don't think Tai is high here. She just knows how (over) seriously Claire takes working at the library and likes to poke fun at it. She's probably had this joke primed and ready to go for a while now, with a proper evaluation ready to be sent.
That is my impression as well. However, it is a sign of changes to come, even in the glacial timeline of QC. We do not know if Claire graduates soon, but at least she is not going to work at the library anymore. But because of Marten and her love of books, she may of course be a frequent visitor.
And then Claire graduated and moved to new york.
It is a possibility, and it would create similarities (or differences) to the Faye/Angus situation. But somehow, I do not think this will happen. Claire is too rooted in Northampton. If anything, Tai will quit or get fired, and Claire will get her job at the library.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 22 Apr 2015, 02:56
You must understand that there are always a few people who refuse to bend the knee and.... sometimes there are bones to get rid of okay?

I suppose they thought that sword of yours was strictly ceremonial M'Lady. Bad Mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 22 Apr 2015, 02:57
You know, a while back, I thought that maybe the drama would be that Claire would replace Tai.

I'm seeing nothing to say that this isn't possible still.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2015, 03:15
Regarding Claire's educational situation, my understanding is that she's in the last year of her Masters of Library Science degree and, assuming Tai hasn't irreparably screwed up, will graduate this year.

You know, a while back, I thought that maybe the drama would be that Claire would replace Tai.

Not replace but librarians are always further up the heap than the admin team. If Claire is hired, even as a junior librarian, she'll suddenly find herself outside of Tai and Marten's authority and technically their superior in the organisation. I doubt that Marten would care much (he's used to being at the mercy of mercurial females) although it would make the whole 'no PDIs at work' thing develop a completely different flavour. Unless Marten's reaction to her in 'librarian' mode is so strong that her willpower gives out and she realises that you can lock the copier room from the inside. :wink:

I really don't know if Tai could survive having Claire being above her in the chain of command. Claire strikes me as never having really warmed up to Tai's style and behaviour. Tai could easily be forced out because, frankly, Claire won't take her shit anymore and now has the power to make that stick.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 22 Apr 2015, 03:29
I really don't know if Tai could survive having Claire being above her in the chain of command. Claire strikes me as never having really warmed up to Tai's style and behaviour. Tai could easily be forced out because, frankly, Claire won't take her shit anymore and now has the power to make that stick.
Claire and Tai were well aligned in #2481 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2481). Claire may find Tai irritating at times, but I guess she realizes that Tai is just teasing her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: theMarc on 22 Apr 2015, 04:49
A Jorb Well Done (http://www.homestarrunner.com/cantsayjob.html) (because I was reminded of it and feel like linking it)

Dammit, I was going to link to that...  Friggin' ninjas, man.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pretender on 22 Apr 2015, 05:05
It should be noted that Tai has been high, but not quite this high. Something's wrong with her. I don't think it's really fair to judge Tai for "being high this often", seeing as we've only seen her in dramatically convenient situations.

Either way; my point. Tai is broken up about the fight she and Dora had. As you can see, Tai even forgot to wrap her chest like she usually does. To me, this signifies that she was in such a rush to get out of Dora's home that she didn't have time to. Because of the stress, she's high. Much higher than she ever is. It is dramatically convenient, because this mirrors Faye's abuse of alcohol following Angus' departure.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 22 Apr 2015, 05:36
You must understand that there are always a few people who refuse to bend the knee and.... sometimes there are bones to get rid of okay?

I suppose they thought that sword of yours was strictly ceremonial M'Lady. Bad Mistake.

At first I was confused both because it came up the morning after I reread Elizabeth Moon's _The Last Lesson_ and because only one forum member has ever seen a photo of me with a sword (cosplay) and it wasn't you. Then I remembered Sir Glad's posting.

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: dexeron on 22 Apr 2015, 06:23
A Jorb Well Done (http://www.homestarrunner.com/cantsayjob.html) (because I was reminded of it and feel like linking it)

Lol, if someone else hadn't linked that, I was going to.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/dexeron/good-jorb_zpsj9tvxfew.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 22 Apr 2015, 06:38
Wait, there's people in the world who don't like chicken? THAT is a new. Seriously.
I don't eat meat of any kind... So chicken, never mind day-old Mac and cheese, is right out. My favourite day-old food is rice; left-over boiled rice can always be whipped into a tasty fried-rice dish.

It should be noted that Tai has been high, but not quite this high.
I think the jury's still out on that. Reading some of the comments above, I wonder if I'm even reading the same comic. "Completly bloodshot eyes and major bags under the eyes"? Seriously?
(http://i.imgur.com/B8ApQRY.png)

As for the breast-binding thing, Tai seemed to give that up (or Jeph just forgot about it) at least as long ago as her first date with Dora (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2257). Even way back in 2008 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1244) her bust was uncompressed. So reading this as a sign that "Something's wrong with her" seems dubious to me. I think Tai is just winding Claire up.

You must understand that there are always a few people who refuse to bend the knee and.... sometimes there are bones to get rid of okay?
A true Empress leaves the disposal of the recalcitrant, and their bones, to her minions...
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 06:46
It should be noted that Tai has been high, but not quite this high.

SHe's been so high she sees dragons.

All this strip shows is her with bloodshot eyes, looking tired and (possibly jokingly) giving Claire a sheet of paper saying good job and calling it an evaluation
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 06:49
We don't even have empirical proof she IS high, seeing as bloodshot eyes and bags beneath them are also symptoms of a lack of sleep, which isn't an entirely unlikely possibility, given the tension between Tai and Dora. It's definitely not impossible, considering Tai; it might even be likely, but it's not a proven fact.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Apr 2015, 06:52
I'm going with Akima here.. I just don't see 'blood shot eyes with bags' in today's comic. Like, at all.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 22 Apr 2015, 07:49
It is a possibility, and it would create similarities (or differences) to the Faye/Angus situation. But somehow, I do not think this will happen. Claire is too rooted in Northampton. If anything, Tai will quit or get fired, and Claire will get her job at the library.

I think today's strip might be part of a long setup for the latter half of your prediction. The former part I'm not so sure of. Jeph recycles a lot of gags ("You're pretty!" "So are you *blush*") but I'm not sure he'd recycle an entire storyline, as he'd be doing there (or by fleshing out the similarities between Tai's attitude/conduct at work and Faye's attitude/conduct at her former place of employment, especially WRT Dora's outlook on both).
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Apr 2015, 08:00
It is a possibility, and it would create similarities (or differences) to the Faye/Angus situation. But somehow, I do not think this will happen. Claire is too rooted in Northampton. If anything, Tai will quit or get fired, and Claire will get her job at the library.

I think today's strip might be part of a long setup for the latter half of your prediction. The former part I'm not so sure of. Jeph recycles a lot of gags ("You're pretty!" "So are you *blush*") but I'm not sure he'd recycle an entire storyline, as he'd be doing there (or by fleshing out the similarities between Tai's attitude/conduct at work and Faye's attitude/conduct at her former place of employment, especially WRT Dora's outlook on both).

Especially not in such quick succession.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Apr 2015, 08:42
Tai will tell Marten that since he's been supervising the interns, he should write their evaluations. Drama ensues.

Soon, at Claire's professor's office.

"So...Miss Augustus. Your performance review mentions that you're 'Super cute and have really pretty hair'."
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Apr 2015, 09:34
The Smif library isn't a long-term job for Claire. If the administration lets slackers like Tai run the place, she'll not be happy there. Her best bet is to not bother with any drama with Tai; just write up a good evaluation (or have Marten do it), and get Tai to sign off. From there she needs to find a library that values her professional skills (it's a northeastern college town; there'll be other libraries, and Claire has a car).

WRT the idea that Tai has already written a real evaluation and is just pulling Claire's leg, we've never seen any indication of that level of conscientiousness or planning from Tai. I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 22 Apr 2015, 11:24
is marten an intern or does he just work as some sort of general library slave?

I'm not sure of Marten's specific job title, but I think he's Tai's assistant and a full employee of the college rather than an intern. He's probably got a fancy job title like 'Office Administrator' or 'Head Librarian's Administrative Assistant' or something like that.

Functionally, the experience he has gained over the last year or so would likely qualify him to stay on in a purely admin role (at least officially) if Tai were to suddenly quit or be fired for dropping the ball with the interns. Officially, he'd have no 'librarian' role but, given how he inducted the three interns, I think he knows enough about that end of the operation too.

A good friend of mine is a "Library Assistant" at a state college library in Mass. Without a Master's in library science, she says that's as high as she'll ever be allowed to get, despite having worked in various libraries for 20+ years and knowing more than many of her bosses.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 22 Apr 2015, 11:25
I'm going with Akima here.. I just don't see 'blood shot eyes with bags' in today's comic. Like, at all.

Me either.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Apr 2015, 11:55
I'll admit, I didn't notice Tai was high when I first read the strip, but once it was pointed out it was 'Oh, how did I miss that?'

Are you all reading on phones or something?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2015, 11:58
Yep, but even when I zoom in they don't seem red to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 12:01

Are you all reading on phones or something?

First time I read the strip, yes. Second time, no.

On your phone gives you a closer look at Tai's face, and I'm still unconvinced that she's high. I think she would put the effort in on something like this, if only to get Claire's freaked out response here, then tell her to relax. If she didn't, then we've got another string of high-drama weeks, methinks.

Marten telling her to get her shit together, Tai feeling freaked out because Dora's weird with her, and now Marten is, too, and Claire, of course, freaking out because EVALUATION GIVE IT. Juggling Faye, of course, and her job search, checking in on Dora, Hanners, and everyone at CoD, because now Faye's unemployed, we need a reason to do that.

Basically, while there could be good story to be told if Tai genuinely hasn't done the evaluation, I don't think Jeph would go there so soon, at a time when everything is up in the air.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 22 Apr 2015, 12:29
Tai gave that evaluation to the wrong person, Emily would be pleased as punch with the one she gave to Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Reaver on 22 Apr 2015, 12:52
If she's NOT high then she's either 1: Messing with Claire or 2: Screwed her over with a fake evaluation   :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 12:54
If she's NOT high then she's either 1: Messing with Claire or 2: Screwed her over with a fake evaluation   :oops:

So what's she doing if she IS high. Pretty sure her actions are the same regardless of her potential intoxication
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Reaver on 22 Apr 2015, 12:57
If she's NOT high then she's either 1: Messing with Claire or 2: Screwed her over with a fake evaluation   :oops:

So what's she doing if she IS high. Pretty sure her actions are the same regardless of her potential intoxication

With  being high= SOME semblance of an excuse

Without being High= Dicking with someone  without a real excuse
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Apr 2015, 13:06
The Principle of Maximum Awkwardness would beam with accomplishment if Tai joined the substance abuse support group and used Faye's real name.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 13:22
If she's NOT high then she's either 1: Messing with Claire or 2: Screwed her over with a fake evaluation   :oops:

So what's she doing if she IS high. Pretty sure her actions are the same regardless of her potential intoxication

With  being high= SOME semblance of an excuse

Without being High= Dicking with someone  without a real excuse

Explanation =/= excuse.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 13:28
not to mention, if I was in Tai's shoes, I'd do the proper evaluation, then get high specifically to make Claire freak out and think I was too stoned to do anything. The weed would make Claire more likely to assume I'm NOT just screwing with her, and also, hey, I'd be high.

This is one of those things I've realized would make people on this forum hate me IRL, but I'd be entertained
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Apr 2015, 14:51
I'm pretty sure Tai actually does know how to do her job properly, it's just that distinctive 'Tainess' that gets her into the mood to do things like this.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 22 Apr 2015, 14:52
If she's NOT high then she's either 1: Messing with Claire or 2: Screwed her over with a fake evaluation   :oops:

Or 3: is in Tai's default mode of just not giving much of a  fuck about her job.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Near Lurker on 22 Apr 2015, 15:06
From there she needs to find a library that values her professional skills (it's a northeastern college town; there'll be other libraries, and Claire has a car).

You've got it backwards - libraries in college towns tend to atrophy, since the college libraries will usually give you limited privileges if you live there.  The public library in Amherst for instance is tiny, because "community borrowers" can get a card from the 26-story library up the street.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 16:49
Bringing things back to yesterday's comic, I discovered whilst locating libations that the Shell station a few miles thataway sells fried chicken. They clearly expect to be selling it before now, because they had turned off the heat lamps. I have reheated it for experimental purposes.

The conclusion thus far is that fried chicken, even shitty gas station fried chicken, is in fact, yummy. A bit tough, but tasty. Greasy as fuck, but... Yeah there's not another positive about this. It's not as bad as I might have guessed, though!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 22 Apr 2015, 17:15
So...

What's Marten going to do if Claire drags him into this, as her semi-official mentor/supervisor?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zwammy on 22 Apr 2015, 18:32
Either a real evaluation has been submitted to the proper people, or Claire's going to take Tai to task. I think I consider the latter to be more likely, as most relevant plot in this strip evaporates if Tai was just pulling Claire's leg.

I actually had a supervisor in the military give me a midterm feedback that said just that. The actual written eval at the end of the reporting period was normal, but I've still got the feedback sheet he gave me. Ought to frame it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 22 Apr 2015, 19:18
Comic!

And Emily is, indeed, thrilled with her evaluation.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 22 Apr 2015, 19:22
Claire, you clearly picked the worst library to be an intern at.

Er, the worst library at which to be an intern?

The worst--oh, I give up.

Thing is, storming away and complaining to Marten is the thing Claire did the last time (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2871) Tai made fun of her for taking the library/her internship so seriously, and that's not going to solve anything.  Maybe she needs to consider reminding Tai (very forcefully) how serious she really is about the work she wants to do, because otherwise she's never going to get anywhere in this place.

Also, Emily got a balloon?  Does Tai like her more than Claire?  That's it, this means WAR.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 19:23
Okay, with the BALLOON? Tai's thought about this. I'm sure she's done more than write 'Good job' on a piece of paper.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Apr 2015, 19:23
Claire is a fiery redhead.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Apr 2015, 19:24
Is there any other kind?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 19:26
Also, Emily got a balloon?  Does Tai like her more than Claire?  That's it, this means WAR.

I'm sorry, but Claire does not strike me as a balloon type of person. Please do not call us to war over whether Claire would appreciate a balloon as much as Emily. That is a silly thing to war over.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 19:28
Is there any other kind?

The nerdy, socially-awkward, incredibly anxious type. Have you seen The Guild? Are you aware of Felicia Day? Look her up. Watch The Guild. See a variety of redhead that is not flammable.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Apr 2015, 19:29
In a dastardly heel turn, Claire pops the balloon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 22 Apr 2015, 19:30
I'm sorry, but Claire does not strike me as a balloon type of person. Please do not call us to war over whether Claire would appreciate a balloon as much as Emily. That is a silly thing to war over.

No war is too silly for me.  I am a Knight of the Valkistanian Empire and I will go wherever my lady commands!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Apr 2015, 19:30
Yep, but even when I zoom in they don't seem red to me.
I compared Tai's eye color in yesterday's comic to the one in 2868 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2868) using Gimp... in 2868 it told me it was (255,255,255) i.e. white. In yesterday's comic, I got (236,209,210): mostly white with a little extra red. Considering the color decisions in the comic are very deliberate, I'd say Tai's eyes are red.

(Yes, I was a bit bored tonight. Why do you ask?)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 22 Apr 2015, 19:31
I say they are blue and gold!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Apr 2015, 19:33
No, that's West Virginia University's colors.

*checks Wikipedia for Smif's colors*
Dangit... Okay, they're Smif's colors, too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Apr 2015, 19:49

No war is too silly for me.  I am a Knight of the Valkistanian Empire and I will go wherever my lady commands!

Your lady has stayed silent! If you start a war, the casualties be on your own head.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 22 Apr 2015, 19:54
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission."
--Grace Hopper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 22 Apr 2015, 19:54
This feels like the start of another dramatic arc that could affect a lot of folks.

In the comic, too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 22 Apr 2015, 19:56
Claire wasn't given a balloon because I don't think Tai wanted her to float away - in order for the balloon to proportionally represent her effort and aptitude in the internship, taking into account the size of the balloon that Emily is holding... the balloon would probably be capable of lifting a full bookshelf.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 22 Apr 2015, 20:08
Emily's having a good week: went out with an interesting guy, and now, balloon!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: improvnerd on 22 Apr 2015, 20:11
Tai: Your balloon? It's out in the yard.
[There is a hot air balloon in the yard with the words "Good Job!" written on the side.]
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Apr 2015, 20:12
I've known some fiery redheads. Real irish ones. Claire is more like a heating pad set to "high."
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Apr 2015, 20:13
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission."
--Grace Hopper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper)

Words to live by.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 22 Apr 2015, 20:14
I've known some fiery redheads. Real irish ones. Claire is more like a heating pad set to "high."

So then you want Claire to start saying things like "You know nothing Jon Snow."
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 22 Apr 2015, 20:15
Claire is a fiery redhead.  :claireface:
Is there any other kind?

Well... There's incendiary, smoldering, explosive, scintillating....
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Apr 2015, 20:22
*dives for the bunker and sounds the air raid siren*

Everyone take cover! she's building up to critical mass! One more episode in the week to go, she's gonna blow!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 22 Apr 2015, 20:27
she's gonna blow!

Claire and Marten's specific bedroom activities are none of our business.

And let me save you some time. Fellatio joke? Really? Way to keep it classy valk.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 22 Apr 2015, 20:41
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/296/071/c7d.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Apr 2015, 21:16
So then you want Claire to start saying things like "You know nothing Jon Snow."

Claire: "You know nothing, Marten Reed!"
Pintsize: "Yeah, tell us something we didn't know."
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Apr 2015, 21:29
Thermonuclear explosion in

3 ...... 2 ...... 1
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2015, 23:09
I had to think about today's strip for a moment. What had Marten been doing before Claire stormed over? I don't think that he knew what Emily's balloon was actually about and, naturally enough, was afraid to ask. Now he knows and I bet that he's sort of relieved that Tai didn't give Emily the crown. Calming down Claire over not getting a balloon too is going to be hard enough!

I exaggerate for comedic effect, of course. I'm sure that Marten's brain is working overtime to work out what to do next.

I'm sticking with my prediction of yesterday that Tai couldn't write a proper evaluation, even if she wanted to, which would require motivation that she currently does not have. She's a classic Scott Adams Weasel Boss - She got her position by accident, keeps it by non-work means and only does the work that she absolutely has to. Such a boss doesn't do evaluations; it leaves too much of a paper trail of their own existence and activities!

Unless Jeph pulls a surprise out of his hat tomorrow, this is going to last into next week. I suspect that how the fandom views Tai is going to be seriously affected by how she reacts to Marten and/or Claire's explanation of why Claire needs a proper evaluation. Best case, she asks Marten or Mono for help; worst case, she laughs at the idea and tells them that satisfying Claire's professor is their problem, not hers. In this latter case, irrespective of how they view Claire, readers would empathise enough with her for Tai to become a figure of hate to them!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 22 Apr 2015, 23:26
@BenRG. I think you are grossly underestimating what she can actually do. There has been no evidence in the comic to suggest she is incompetent, just super relaxed and doesn't take much seriously.

She was also a TA and graduated from grad school. The idea that she can write a thesis but can't actually write an evaluation is beyond silly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Apr 2015, 23:35
@BenRG. I think you are grossly underestimating what she can actually do. There has been no evidence in the comic to suggest she is incompetent, just super relaxed and doesn't take much seriously.

She was also a TA and graduated from grad school. The idea that she can write a thesis but can't actually write an evaluation is beyond silly.

I explained the possible scenario yesterday: She copy-pasted her way through, doing only the bare minimum necessary with the aid of a professor who was a kindred spirit.

I'm not saying that she's incompetent; far from it, she's good when she wants to be. The way she trained and motivated Marten is proof of that! The problem is that she's typically unmotivated unless she has a personal stake, even if only emotional in nature and she simply does not have one even remotely strong enough to actually take the evaluation process seriously.

Tai probably normally 'delegates' it to Marten; too much work for too little reward otherwise. I base this on Marten's body language in panel 3 - He'd been expecting this but had hoped that he was wrong because he's now trapped in a dispute between his immediate manager and his girlfriend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2015, 23:37
I'm pretty sure Tai just finished her undergrad degree, I think at some point she mentions her degree being in liberal arts.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 23 Apr 2015, 00:01
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission."
--Grace Hopper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper)

Fun fact: after joining the US Navy, Grace Hopper trained at Smith College.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: katsmeat on 23 Apr 2015, 01:17
I'm sort-of a Bluestone 42 fan, and it's occurred to me that Tai's management style is pretty much that of Colonel Smith.

ie. You never appear to be actually doing anything or taking any obvious interest in your job, yet the facility you're responsible for mysteriously runs very efficiently.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xsc9f1gRrq8

Bit like a duck, seemingly relaxed but a lot of frantic activity under the surface.  And yes, Nevile Longbottom has joined the British Army,
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2015, 01:30
I'm sort-of a Bluestone 42 fan, and it's occurred to me that Tai's management style is pretty much that of Colonel Smith.

ie. You never appear to be actually doing anything or taking any obvious interest in your job, yet the facility you're responsible for mysteriously runs very efficiently.

It's all in the subordinates. If you've got a hyper-competent subordinate who will do your work for you rather than let others suffer because the work hasn't been done, then you never need to work again or even pretend to work. For Tai, that's Momo and Claire (and, to a lesser extent, Marten, although Tai usually needs to persuade him personally to take responsibility for stuff; that isn't really part of his comfort zone).

Naturally, you can never let said subordinate be rewarded, recognised or promoted for their work. If that happens, they'll no longer be available to do your work for you. The most you can do is give them unofficial recognition, like a personal note of thanks or your paternal hand of protection that makes the rest of the office hate and resent them as well as fear to so much as raise their eyes in their presence.

Huh... Is that Tai's Evil PlanTM? Ruin Claire's plans to graduate so she'll be stuck as one of Tai's Work Avoidance Squad forever? Nah, too Machiavellian for Tai; she's just a slacker, not a full-out sociopathic careerist.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: katsmeat on 23 Apr 2015, 01:48
It's all in the subordinates. If you've got a hyper-competent subordinate who will do your work for you rather than let others suffer because the work hasn't been done, then you never need to work again or even pretend to work. For Tai, that's Momo and Claire (and, to a lesser extent, Marten, although Tai usually needs to persuade him personally to take responsibility for stuff; that isn't really part of his comfort zone).

Though Tai was in charge before any of them were taken on. So unless the library was a complete shambles before she hired Marten, I'd submit she's effective at her job. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2015, 01:55
Though Tai was in charge before any of them were taken on. So unless the library was a complete shambles before she hired Marten, I'd submit she's effective at her job.

If she has to be, yes; she'll do a good job or at least good enough not to bring criticism on her. If she doesn't have to be, she won't be. That's the point I've been making all along.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 23 Apr 2015, 02:31
So... Why does Emily even own a crown?

But I'm impressed by Tai's trolling skills. She knows that Claire is the only one who take librarianing seriously, so she's obviously the one to wind up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 23 Apr 2015, 04:20
So... Why does Emily even own a crown?
You can get one for free at Burger King.
Next question: Why would Emily visit Burger King? She only eats peas and banana smoothies...
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Apr 2015, 05:42
Chicken nugget smoothie!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Apr 2015, 07:15
So... Why does Emily even own a crown?

Clinton bought it for her.

Because Clinton is an idiot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Apr 2015, 07:28
Perhaps he was tournament champion and crowned her the queen of love and beauty.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Apr 2015, 07:45
...thus starting Marten's Mutiny.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 23 Apr 2015, 07:48
As a parent of daughters, I can tell you from experience that fake princess accessories are neither expensive nor hard to procure. It's a bigger problem to deal with all the massive clutter of princess-crap™ once you have it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 23 Apr 2015, 11:02
called it :D

So... Why does Emily even own a crown?

Why wouldn't she? This is Emily we're talking about, she probably has two more spare.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 23 Apr 2015, 11:43
I'm pretty sure Tai just finished her undergrad degree, I think at some point she mentions her degree being in liberal arts.

I was under the impression that TAs are generally grad students.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 23 Apr 2015, 19:41
Everything is fantastic! And that's quite the face that Claire's making.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 23 Apr 2015, 19:42
CLAIRE:
Everything is terrible!
My library adviser sells my boss all her weed.
Everything is terrible!
This is just what I need...



Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 23 Apr 2015, 19:49
Throw your hands in the air like you just don't care......anymore, because everything is terrible.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 23 Apr 2015, 20:13
Amelia... it was just a false alarm.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 23 Apr 2015, 20:20
I'll bet she's all mimsy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 23 Apr 2015, 20:24
Ok Tai, here's what you need to do; slip Claire a pot brownie, and chill her the fuck out. You'll be doing yourself, Claire, the De Beers Diamond Company, and the world at large a huge favor.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: explicit on 23 Apr 2015, 20:28
Everythinggggg is awesomeeee
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 23 Apr 2015, 20:31
Everythinggggg is awesomeeee

Only if your name is Emmet..
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 23 Apr 2015, 20:32
Ok Tai, here's what you need to do; slip Claire a pot brownie, and chill her the fuck out. You'll be doing yourself, Claire, the De Beers Diamond Company, and the world at large a huge favor.

Not cool to give someone drugs without them knowing about it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 23 Apr 2015, 20:43
Ok Tai, here's what you need to do; slip Claire a pot brownie, and chill her the fuck out. You'll be doing yourself, Claire, the De Beers Diamond Company, and the world at large a huge favor.

1: Drugging someone without their knowledge, let alone consent, is so uncool that it's not even funny to joke about.

2: Claire is ultra-super-serious about her career. The way she is acting is not only understandable, but reasonable in the given situation. If anything, the situation would be better resolved with less marijuana, not more.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Truec on 23 Apr 2015, 21:13
I'm pretty sure Tai just finished her undergrad degree, I think at some point she mentions her degree being in liberal arts.

I was under the impression that TAs are generally grad students.

I think you're thinking of Gabby, not Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 23 Apr 2015, 21:27
I'm pretty sure Tai just finished her undergrad degree, I think at some point she mentions her degree being in liberal arts.

I was under the impression that TAs are generally grad students.

I think you're thinking of Gabby, not Tai.

Nope, Tai was a TA to a creative writing class. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=777
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 23 Apr 2015, 22:09
Wait...

Amelia Borogrove.....kinda witchy looking..

A. BoroGROVE....kinda witchy looking

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/312/474/791.jpeg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2015, 23:11
In some ways, I'm sorry that we missed the conversation where Claire convinced Tai that this was a serious matter. The look on Tai's face when she realised that this wasn't an elaborate practical joke would probably been funny! Am I sure that Tai really had planned for the note to be 'it'? Yes; the feel of what she says in panel 1suggests that. She's okay doing a proper evaluation if it's so important to Claire but it was additional to her original plans.

Two other thoughts:
Oh - I think that this strip confirms that Claire is a student at Smif.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 23 Apr 2015, 23:33
Ahh, nice to see that Claire hasn't lost all perspective


Yes, I was being sarcastic
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 23 Apr 2015, 23:34
CLAIRE: "What the hell ass balls?"
MARTEN: "STOP STEALING MY LINES".

Now seriously, that's a plot twist if I ever saw one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 23 Apr 2015, 23:48
I liked these last few comics a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Apr 2015, 01:40
I wonder if this will be the prelude to a sequence of comics where Tai makes it her mission to 'loosen up' Claire (something Claire neither wants nor appreciates)? I'm going to lay down my marker that this will include Claire meeting Delilah and there being an argument over her 'using' Marten, which may, in turn, lead to more details about Claire's absentee father. Certainly, if Claire and Tai bond to any degree, I can see Claire telling her that she's trans.

FWIW, Jeph doesn't seem to be following any long-term arcs at the moment. He seems to be satisfied just doing short stories in the universe (the Emilton date, Claire's assessment and so on). Is this a serious change in direction or will we see him going back to longer arcs in the future?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: neurocase on 24 Apr 2015, 02:23
I'm hardcore with Claire on this one. Maybe it's because Tai has always annoyed me, but her comment in panel four today seems unnecessary. She couldn't just say "Oh, I know her!"? She has to specifically mention that's where she gets her pot?
It just makes her seem all the more useless, and her entire attitude has always seemed to reek of a stereotypical overly-hedonistic pothead. I don't care when people smoke in the privacy of their own homes or whatever, but it seems that 90% of people on the grass can't shut the fuck up about it, and seem to make a point of mentioning it or slipping it into conversation whenever they can. This is what Tai seems to do, and since a while after her introduction, it's all she's been.

Oh, the library hasn't fallen apart while she's been working there? That doesn't mean she's done a good job. It means she's coasted enough and used the people around her enough to get by doing as little as possible to maintain functionality. I mean shit, when the interns first showed up, she openly admitted that she was high as hell, and was going to go watch cartoons. So she's a college student? Boo fucking hoo. That's not an excuse for being completely unprofessional. I honestly want to see her brought down to earth HARD. She won't go the way of Faye; that drama-horse has been beaten to death already. But I want to see her lose her job or Dora because of her habits so that she straightens out. She was likeable at first; those literary puns she made during Marten's interview, and her insistence on meeting Jimbo stand out as positives, but now she's just frustrating, and frankly, I find strips with her, especially ones where it's all 'hurrdurr Tai is high lulz lulz lulz' tiring.

So A+ to Claire. I don't want to see her bullied into "loosening up". She's driven, responsible, and focused, and to people like that, people like Tai can be understandably infuriating.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 24 Apr 2015, 02:33
Amelia... it was just a false alarm.
Awesome album. No regrets, Coyote.

Claire, you have lived your whole life in a college town and haven't realised that just about everyone does pot, especially the faculty?
This, but...

1: Drugging someone without their knowledge, let alone consent, is so uncool that it's not even funny to joke about.
Yeah. It is a criminal offence in many jurisdictions, and anyone who does it belongs in prison too.

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cabbagehut on 24 Apr 2015, 02:41
Something that I both really like and find a little frustrating about QC is the shifting cast.  I like it because it seems realistic.  You often don't have a core cast of friends in your life that'll do everything with you, and when you live in a college town, people often move away.  People quit jobs to get careers, get married, have kids, relocate for all kinds of reasons, and it's really nice to see that represented, I think.

I find it frustrating because you don't get an "end" to a lot of stories. Part of my mind keeps them as "active" characters, and then I think of QC having this massive cast, when it really doesn't.  It just shifts focus.

To be honest, this is the first time I really noticed that I don't really like reading about most of the main cast (and a number of the side characters, too).  I don't really like Marigold, Claire, Tai, Dale (honestly, it's not a dislike, but that I don't find him to have much of a personality, so I'm just disinterested), Emily, Pintsize, Momo, Dora (not a dislike, just disinterest), Clinton, Veronica, or Angus (I am so, so glad he is gone.  I always thought of him as irredeemably creepy and just could not get on board).  I pretty much only like Marten, Faye, and Hannelore at the moment.

I'm not saying the comic is poorly-written or anything!  In fact, I find a lot of the characterizations to be just fine.  They just aren't my taste.  I don't have any plans to stop reading, because like I said, the cast rotates.  New things could be out there that I like more, and I like the storytelling style.

But back to the main topic at hand: this kind of situation is funny in a comic, but really, really frustrating in real life (thank goodness this isn't real life, then, huh? :D).  When you have a superior who can't take it seriously and it creates problems for you elsewhere, it stops being humorous pretty fast.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 24 Apr 2015, 03:04
I'll bet she's all mimsy.

Lead singer of the Mome Raths too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: snubnose on 24 Apr 2015, 03:10
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE

... nice start into the weekend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: KOK on 24 Apr 2015, 03:39
FWIW, Jeph doesn't seem to be following any long-term arcs at the moment. He seems to be satisfied just doing short stories in the universe (the Emilton date, Claire's assessment and so on). Is this a serious change in direction or will we see him going back to longer arcs in the future?

Claire's internship ending soon is world shaking, by QC standards.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Apr 2015, 04:42
It really is. Northampton's endless summer has been going on for as long as I've been reading QC. Now it looks like we might actually get a change of season.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 24 Apr 2015, 05:58
1: Drugging someone without their knowledge, let alone consent, is so uncool that it's not even funny to joke about.
Yeah. It is a criminal offence in many jurisdictions, and anyone who does it belongs in prison too.

It's not so cut and dry as that. For instance, i put drugs in people's food/drinks on a regular basis as part of my job. When you're dealing with an uncooperative Alzheimer patent, covert medication is a much safer method than restraint, and forced medication, especially if the patient also has Osteoporosis that's left their bones as brittle as a stick of chalk.

Admittedly, that's not the same as giving a collage student drugged brownies, which was a joke (possibly in bad taste).

In closing, i'd like to ask, that when you start making absolute statements such as "anyone who does it belongs in prison too.", you stop, and carefully think it through first.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: anahata on 24 Apr 2015, 06:07
I'm hardcore with Claire on this one. Maybe it's because Tai has always annoyed me, but her comment in panel four today seems unnecessary. She couldn't just say "Oh, I know her!"? She has to specifically mention that's where she gets her pot?

Because of Claire's reaction? (and perhaps because Tai is a tease and knows Claire will react like that?)
I'm with those who'd like Claire to loosen up a bit. I don't mean she should start smoking pot, but she could be a little more tolerant of those whose lifestyle and values don't exactly match hers. Especially, come to think of it, when she herself is in a position that invites prejudice.

Also I don't believe Tai is totally feckless and irresponsible. I think she's one of those people who's actually very intelligent but doesn't make a big thing of it. Her management decisions are capricious and intuitive but where it really matters I don't see evidence that she's really fouled up. For example she put Marten in charge of showing the interns round while she watched movies on a drug high: it could look like she was plain lazy but Marten, despite being out of his comfort zone, did a good job, no harm came of it and Marten and the interns had a useful opportunity to get to know each other.

tl;dr : there's method in her madness.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Meilu on 24 Apr 2015, 06:14
Something that I both really like and find a little frustrating about QC is the shifting cast.  I like it because it seems realistic.  You often don't have a core cast of friends in your life that'll do everything with you, and when you live in a college town, people often move away.  People quit jobs to get careers, get married, have kids, relocate for all kinds of reasons, and it's really nice to see that represented, I think.

I find it frustrating because you don't get an "end" to a lot of stories. Part of my mind keeps them as "active" characters, and then I think of QC having this massive cast, when it really doesn't.  It just shifts focus.

To be honest, this is the first time I really noticed that I don't really like reading about most of the main cast (and a number of the side characters, too).  I don't really like Marigold, Claire, Tai, Dale (honestly, it's not a dislike, but that I don't find him to have much of a personality, so I'm just disinterested), Emily, Pintsize, Momo, Dora (not a dislike, just disinterest), Clinton, Veronica, or Angus (I am so, so glad he is gone.  I always thought of him as irredeemably creepy and just could not get on board).  I pretty much only like Marten, Faye, and Hannelore at the moment.

I'm not saying the comic is poorly-written or anything!  In fact, I find a lot of the characterizations to be just fine.  They just aren't my taste.  I don't have any plans to stop reading, because like I said, the cast rotates.  New things could be out there that I like more, and I like the storytelling style.

But back to the main topic at hand: this kind of situation is funny in a comic, but really, really frustrating in real life (thank goodness this isn't real life, then, huh? :D).  When you have a superior who can't take it seriously and it creates problems for you elsewhere, it stops being humorous pretty fast.

I agree. I'd swap a character or two, but on the whole I agree with you. This is a situation for me where I've been reading for so very long (very very near the beginning) that I just don't want to give up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Meilu on 24 Apr 2015, 06:24
I'm hardcore with Claire on this one. Maybe it's because Tai has always annoyed me, but her comment in panel four today seems unnecessary. She couldn't just say "Oh, I know her!"? She has to specifically mention that's where she gets her pot?

Because of Claire's reaction? (and perhaps because Tai is a tease and knows Claire will react like that?)
I'm with those who'd like Claire to loosen up a bit. I don't mean she should start smoking pot, but she could be a little more tolerant of those whose lifestyle and values don't exactly match hers. Especially, come to think of it, when she herself is in a position that invites prejudice.

Also I don't believe Tai is totally feckless and irresponsible. I think she's one of those people who's actually very intelligent but doesn't make a big thing of it. Her management decisions are capricious and intuitive but where it really matters I don't see evidence that she's really fouled up. For example she put Marten in charge of showing the interns round while she watched movies on a drug high: it could look like she was plain lazy but Marten, despite being out of his comfort zone, did a good job, no harm came of it and Marten and the interns had a useful opportunity to get to know each other.

tl;dr : there's method in her madness.

I'm trans, it doesn't have anything to do with tolerating unprofessional behavior. Being trans is not a choice, doing drugs is (unless you're addicted, but there's still an initial choice). I've had bosses like Tai, I don't like it either. There's a time and a place for everything... being drunk or high at work is wrong. Pushing work off on your friends because you are drunk or high is wrong. That's not a "method to the madness" style of management. I'm not uptight, I let loose in appropriate settings... The place of employment isn't ever the right place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 24 Apr 2015, 06:25
I don't mind endless summers, but perhaps it is time to move on. Things I would like to see:
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Euthemes on 24 Apr 2015, 07:06
What a small world  :lol:

It was a funny week, we needed that. Thank you once more, QC.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: gprimr1 on 24 Apr 2015, 07:10
Claire needs a xanax or something. She is WAY to wound up.

That actually might not be a bad thing that Tai and her teacher have that relationship. It's not like Tai said "Oh I slept with her wife" or "Oh bleep that bleep"
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Apr 2015, 07:13
I don't mind endless summers, but perhaps it is time to move on. Things I would like to see:
  • Sam at school, dissecting frogs
  • Claire focusing on her studies
  • Beautiful fall foliage
  • Marten, Hanners, and Amir doing a real concert (OK, they need more band practice and a vocalist first).
  • Shakeup at the library: Budget cuts, Tai and Marten getting fired

Claire at Grad School - I think it would be in-character for Claire to be the sort of student who stresses out on her studies almost to the point of a breakdown, especially as this is finals year. I expect at least one incident where Marten has to invoke SO Privilege and lock away her books for her to have a weekend off lest she burn out;

Deathmole Concert - Firstly, I'd love for the way they keep Emily in the centre of the story and more-or-less in her existing social circle is for her to be a keyboards prodigy in the sort of "eccentric and artistic techno-pop keyboardist" way. Secondly, it might be nice for the band to have a small gig at some hipster 'club' where (much to their surprise) they are a modest success (certainly enough to sell a huge stack of their hastly-burnt album CDs). I'd also love for Claire to attempt to dress 'rock chick' and be surprised at the way guys (especially Marten) look at her.

Changes at the library - New Broom Sweeps Clean and generates a tidal wave of complaints from students and faculty alike, leading to the Trustees coming crawling to Marten and Tai on hands and knees offering way more money.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: FayeDouble on 24 Apr 2015, 09:16
Ok Tai, here's what you need to do; slip Claire a pot brownie, and chill her the fuck out. You'll be doing yourself, Claire, the De Beers Diamond Company, and the world at large a huge favor.

As someone who reacts very, VERY poorly to pot, especially in food form, I can tell you that is a very bad idea. Not everyone just "chills out" in fact some of us totally "freak out" and then Tai would have a scared, crying Claire on her hands who would be totally terrified. I know it's a common drug, and people attitudes have changed for the better as far as legalization goes, but I wish people wouldn't joke about drugging someone with it. It is still a mind-altering substance, and different brains react differently. That being said, even with my not being a user, they should just legalize it since there are tons of people in prison who do not deserve to be - they aren't violent or dangerous!

Also, Tai, seriously? Never give up the name of your source. That's a well-known rule from anyone who's ever been anywhere NEAR that realm of life.

*getting off soapbox*
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 24 Apr 2015, 09:38

Also, Tai, seriously? Never give up the name of your source. That's a well-known rule from anyone who's ever been anywhere NEAR that realm of life.

I effing hate this rule. I've been back in my hometown for going on a year now, and I still can't find a person.

As to the effect it can have, it's worse than that for a few reasons.

One, with a pot brownie, or any edible, you can't know how much THC you're ingesting. General rule I've heard is just take a few bites, not the whole thing, which Claire wouldn't know to do, because she thinks it's a normal brownie. I've never had edibles, but that's what I understand to be a thing.

Two, there's the fact that your body feels strange for no apparent reason, and you don't know what's happening, and even if it feels good at first, you're going to start freaking out because it's NOT a normal feeling, it's not emotional anymore, it's affecting your physical abilities. Make a list of things that affect your physical abilities without that being your express intention. That list doesn't include much in the way of good things, does it? Well that's what the unwillingly drugged person would have to go on, because they didn't do anything they knew that could cause this.


Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: swapna on 24 Apr 2015, 10:21
Hah. I actually find this funny - Admittedly, not a big fan of Tai's drug use at work, but she's not really in charge of dangerous machinery or something and seems to do a fine job.

And Claire needs to stop getting angry about everything - Tai's a decent lady, has recently been a student and knows how important those evaluations are.
And, to be honest - she should be glad Tai's evaluation of her is 'good job' and not 'would not recommend - insubordinate, destroys library equipment and is unprofessional at work (no, not Claire/Marten, her freak-out at work)'

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Apr 2015, 10:25
I wonder what you do with Emily with internships ending. Claire's spot in the comic is pretty cemented right now and it wouldn't be unreasonable for her to be hired for a proper part time job at the library while she goes back to school anyway, because she loves libraries.

Both of them getting hired seems less reasonable. Emily dating Clinton can keep her in the strip, but she's much more removed from the rest of the cast that way.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Apr 2015, 10:27
She's part of the cast now, though. So if Jeph wants to follow up on her he doesn't need anyone else there to make it worth doing, but it'll probably be more one off strips than anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Apr 2015, 10:32
I wonder what you do with Emily with internships ending. Claire's spot in the comic is pretty cemented right now and it wouldn't be unreasonable for her to be hired for a proper part time job at the library while she goes back to school anyway, because she loves libraries.

Both of them getting hired seems less reasonable. Emily dating Clinton can keep her in the strip, but she's much more removed from the rest of the cast that way.

I hear that Coffee of Doom has a job opening now....


To soon?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: gprimr1 on 24 Apr 2015, 11:04
Remember there is more than Smif library as an option for both of them.

In that immediate area:

Amherst Public Library
Umass Amherst Library
Amherst College Library
Forbe's Library (Northampton's Public Library)
Hampshire College Library
Mt. Holyoke College Library
And more

There are plenty of options for library jobs for both.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Apr 2015, 11:13
I wonder what you do with Emily with internships ending.

I could see Emily getting a job at Elicott-Chatham Cybernetics store (the chassis shop) in Northampton as a software support team junior. ECC ignore the NRO's fearful warning about just what she can do with Net-ready software. The AIs generally treat her as a pet and enjoy the little social media live-streaming utilities she writes for them. She gets to be a good friend to the talking toaster because the two of them have dream jobs in common.

If Tai's evaluation of Claire is particularly good, I could see Professor Borogrove recommending her as a junior librarian to one of the local institutions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Apr 2015, 11:27
The AIs generally treat her as a pet

Or they're terrified of her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 24 Apr 2015, 11:34
I wonder what you do with Emily with internships ending. Claire's spot in the comic is pretty cemented right now and it wouldn't be unreasonable for her to be hired for a proper part time job at the library while she goes back to school anyway, because she loves libraries.

Both of them getting hired seems less reasonable. Emily dating Clinton can keep her in the strip, but she's much more removed from the rest of the cast that way.

I hear that Coffee of Doom has a job opening now....


To soon?
Emily: "Banana smoothie?"
*Emily picks up hammer*
Faye: "Emily smoothie?"
*Faye picks up crowbar*
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 24 Apr 2015, 11:54
I'll bet she's all mimsy.

Lead singer of the Mome Raths too.

Truly outgrabe-eous.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Apr 2015, 11:59
I wonder what you do with Emily with internships ending.

Speculation, unsupported by any evidence: Claire decides that it's time to move out of the house. (But not move in with Marten - way too soon.) She goes apartment-hunting, and discovers that any apartment in Northampton is out of reach for her current finances, but if she had a roommate she could afford one. And it turns out that Emily is also looking for a place to live.

This provides a convenient way to keep Emily around, and Emily and Claire sharing an apartment has plenty of potential for comedy gold.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Apr 2015, 12:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDrfHj3j398
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Truec on 24 Apr 2015, 12:08
I'm still confused as to why Emily, who is in computer science, got an internship at the library in the first place.  She said it's because she likes the smell of books, but I hear you can hang out at libraries even if you don't work there.  I could easily see her sticking around, maybe become to the library what Marten was to Coffee O'Doom.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Apr 2015, 12:16
Claire and Emily oddcouple roomies ruins my Claire and Tai oddcouple roomie fanfiction.

Although it does make her less likely to murder everyone before Hanners can get a chance to.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 24 Apr 2015, 13:18
Maybe if Emily was exploring an MIS degree? It's not quite Library Science, but there's at least some commonality there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 24 Apr 2015, 13:18

Speculation, unsupported by any evidence: Claire decides that it's time to move out of the house. (But not move in with Marten - way too soon.) She goes apartment-hunting, and discovers that any apartment in Northampton is out of reach for her current finances, but if she had a roommate she could afford one. And it turns out that...
...Dora decides she needs a roommate too.

That's be comedy Platinum.

As to Emily, I suspect that Jeph likes writing her too much not to keep her around, simply on merit.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Apr 2015, 13:24
And now for the twist. Emily actually hasn't been interning at the library. She just followed along the day that Claire and Gabby showed up for their internships, and everyone just assumed that's why she was there too. She just is there every day looking up stuff an hanging out with her friends while everyone thinks she's working there. (I don't think we've actually seen her shelving books, helping students or anything like that...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Apr 2015, 13:49
Have we seen Claire or Gabby (or Tai, for that matter) do that?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 24 Apr 2015, 13:57
Have we seen Claire or Gabby (or Tai, for that matter) do that?

Tai, actually, yes. I'm remembering the scene where Claire finds out Marten and Dora used to date. I remember Tai at the very least handling books like she was in the process of shelving them.

Someone who's good at the archive, can you verify? I have a vivid imagination sometimes...
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Apr 2015, 14:09
Today's Specials:

Pintsize Smoothie
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 24 Apr 2015, 16:41
Claire and Emily oddcouple roomies ruins my Claire and Tai oddcouple roomie fanfiction.

Although it does make her less likely to murder everyone before Hanners can get a chance to.

And both those roomie pairings ruin my Hannelore and Claire roomie fanfiction.

Think about it!  Claire seems like enough of a neat-freak to help Hannelore come out of her shell a bit and overcome some more of her issues.  It's something she wants to do (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1586) anyway, and a much better idea than living with Marigold. 

And since she would still probably object to the thought of someone having sex anywhere in her apartment ("DO YOU WANT ME TO GET THE BLACKLIGHT AND SHOW YOU WHAT YOU'VE DONE?!"), Marten's place is conveniently located just a few floors down.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Apr 2015, 16:49
Well, there's only one recourse. They all need to get together, buy a nice big plot of land and set up the Questionable Commune. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 24 Apr 2015, 17:24
And between Hannelore's massive family wealth, Emily's mad computer skills, Steve's cut-throat secret agent know-how, and May's military tech, they soon control an entire Questionable Continent.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: gprimr1 on 24 Apr 2015, 20:39
I'm still confused as to why Emily, who is in computer science, got an internship at the library in the first place.  She said it's because she likes the smell of books, but I hear you can hang out at libraries even if you don't work there.  I could easily see her sticking around, maybe become to the library what Marten was to Coffee O'Doom.

My friend works as a librarian and she says that more than half of her job now is providing tech support for people.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Apr 2015, 20:41
Have they tried turning it off and on again?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 24 Apr 2015, 20:51
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Apr 2015, 20:55
Tier 1 tech-support:  Power-cycle the device and re-install Windows (even if the user is on Mac or Linux)

Tier 2:  Wave a dead chicken over it.

Tier 3:  Sacrifice a virgin on the new moon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Apr 2015, 20:57
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/black_hat_support.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: lawnchair on 25 Apr 2015, 06:43
I'm still confused as to why Emily, who is in computer science, got an internship at the library in the first place.  She said it's because she likes the smell of books, but I hear you can hang out at libraries even if you don't work there.

Delurking because we've managed to land on my day job. I have a CS degree, and I'm a full-time server/database/search admin at a large academic library.  Besides our main 8 million record catalog, we catalog over a million digital images, tens of thousands of videos/archives folders/institutional records (i.e., every thesis ever), and publish 15 online academic journals.

I do get to hire CS interns/student hourlies as funding permits.

And I do wander into the stacks to smell the books most days.

Library - the original Google.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 25 Apr 2015, 06:46
Hey, look! A talking lawn chair!

Are lawn chairs preyed upon by gazebos?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 25 Apr 2015, 06:49
"EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE"

Do you have any idea how painful it is to have a carbonated energy drink come shooting out your nose??

Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 25 Apr 2015, 06:51
I once had spaghetti come out of my nose. That said, I was about three at the time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 25 Apr 2015, 07:00
I once had spaghetti come out of my nose. That said, I was about three at the time.

Spaghetti, huh?  Sounds interesting.

Gonna be honest, though -- Pushing foodstuffs out my nose ain't exactly a voluntary pastime.  Just sayin that last panel made me laugh harder than I have in a long time.

And I have no idea why.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Apr 2015, 07:31
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 25 Apr 2015, 07:43
In closing, i'd like to ask, that when you start making absolute statements such as "anyone who does it belongs in prison too.", you stop, and carefully think it through first.
You make a fair point, but your medical example would not, I think, be a criminal offence in the first place, when dealing with a patient who is no longer capable of giving informed consent, would it? At least I am assuming you have some lawful authority to administer medical treatment without such consent?
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 25 Apr 2015, 14:45
In closing, i'd like to ask, that when you start making absolute statements such as "anyone who does it belongs in prison too.", you stop, and carefully think it through first.
You make a fair point, but your medical example would not, I think, be a criminal offence in the first place, when dealing with a patient who is no longer capable of giving informed consent, would it? At least I am assuming you have some lawful authority to administer medical treatment without such consent?

There's a legal entity called a "conservatorship" which can apply to individuals no longer competent to handle their financial affairs and/or their personal affairs. This happened with my mother when she got dementia in old age. She was prone to angry paranoid delusions, so the home where she lived gave her Haldol, which kept her in a good mood and fairly cooperative. By this time she was not coherent, and babbled rather like a toddler. In no way could she give consent to the drugs, but without them her life and those of her caregivers would have been much worse.

Giving drugs to a competent adult without consent is a serious crime. Claire clearly qualifies as competent. Anyone who gave her a pot brownie without telling her what is was would deserve prosecution. Same with anyone administering roofies, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 25 Apr 2015, 16:00
Well, there's only one recourse. They all need to get together, buy a nice big plot of land and set up the Questionable Commune. :)

Hannelore has already got this planned out. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2848)
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: JRDelirio on 25 Apr 2015, 18:25
IMO a mission to "chill" or "loosen up" Claire would be ill-advised; she's not a stick in the mud, she can be relaxed  in a personal setting, she is in no need of unsolicited intervention.  But there are things she takes seriously and her career is one of those things.  Alas, she is surrounded by an army of professional HakunaMatata-ers.  And for some reason a lot of people think "oooh, someone doesn't think this is funny, let's tease them over it even more, watch their face get red" is the height of wit.  As soon as she was told this was serious, Tai should have just said, "just kidding!".  But instead she keeps trolling Claire.


. I've had bosses like Tai, I don't like it either. There's a time and a place for everything... being drunk or high at work is wrong. Pushing work off on your friends because you are drunk or high is wrong. That's not a "method to the madness" style of management. I'm not uptight, I let loose in appropriate settings... The place of employment isn't ever the right place.
  Thing is, Tai very often is used to shout out "Hey check out how open and loose and progressive is the culture here at SMIF!!" -- the discussions of not just drug use (not just weed but also LSD and X, both portrayed as no big deal) but relationship issues in her early strips, the piercing expedition with Marten, etc.   Though we don't see much of the actual college life, it seems a reasonable assumption to think of it as a stereotypical northeastern LibArts school where everyone uses something mood-altering, the academic departments are progressive to a fault and the administration's major goal is just to get through the year without anything "scandalous" hitting the press. (And BTW no, IRL "everyone" does not use weed at college, there are many who don't, and even a small minority  who do not use anything )
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 25 Apr 2015, 18:43
You make a fair point, but your medical example would not, I think, be a criminal offence in the first place, when dealing with a patient who is no longer capable of giving informed consent, would it? At least I am assuming you have some lawful authority to administer medical treatment without such consent?

Hopefully.  I have met people who were mentally gone enough to not be able to provide consent, but that was generally in the crazy-house, and required a judge making a decision after speaking to the other patient, the doctors, and their respective legal people.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 25 Apr 2015, 21:27
To be fair, I was probably had at the aforementioned bachanalia: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2869
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Apr 2015, 21:35
To be fair, I was probably had at the aforementioned bachanalia: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2869
You were had at the Carnal Playground? Sounds awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 26 Apr 2015, 06:40
Ok Tai, here's what you need to do; slip Claire a pot brownie, and chill her the fuck out. You'll be doing yourself, Claire, the De Beers Diamond Company, and the world at large a huge favor.

1: Drugging someone without their knowledge, let alone consent, is so uncool that it's not even funny to joke about.


Not to be a Debbie Downer.... it's been 30 years since I was at a party where someone spiked the non-alcoholic punch with a few tabs of acid. Not enough to cause much effect except to the 1% of us really susceptible to it.

Thinking about it... that might be why I've never been to a party since. Harmless pranks aren't always harmless. Sometimes they have permanent unintended effects.

Oh yes, I'm also allergic to Cannabis Sativa. So a hash brownie might send me to the ER, though I'd probably (literally) explosively toss my cookie before too much harm was done. Projectile vomiting can be a literal life saver.

It's not just a matter of respecting another person's bodily integrity, when it comes to ingesting chemical substances, there's a reason why dentists etc ask if you have any allergies, or have had drug X before. When I was in a resus ward about a year ago, they asked if I'd had morphine before. I hadn't, but codeine phosphate, and pethidine (Demerol) are fine. To be safe, they gave me a small dose of morphine first rather than the usual amount given initially to seriously burnt victims.

My blood pressure halved in a few seconds, alarms everywhere. Only lasted a few minutes, but they were ready to call the crash cart. Another one on the list of "stuff that affects me more than most". Funny what a difference a few minor changes to chemical structure can make. Actually, it was really interesting watching the monitor, seeing my BP level nosedive while heart rhythm slowed. Took my mind off the pain, and by taking note of other symptoms, I figured out I was metabolising the stuff fast, half life not 120 mins, more like 10. But I digress.

So anyway - not funny, not cool, no joke, and while you have to be really unlucky YOU COULD KILL SOMEONE.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 26 Apr 2015, 13:28
Vodka's better.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 26 Apr 2015, 18:10
You know, I don't know what kind of workplaces you guys have been in, but honestly, she needs to loosen up some, not because she can't relax, because outside of work she can, but because she shows strong signs of having a mental breakdown if she really flips out every time someone she works with isn't super serious about every aspect of their work. Part of being a professional is also being able to deal with a wide variety of personalities and coworkers. She shows zero signs of being able to handle that the moment it comes to anything that affects her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 27 Apr 2015, 01:27
You know, I don't know what kind of workplaces you guys have been in, but honestly, she needs to loosen up some, not because she can't relax, because outside of work she can, but because she shows strong signs of having a mental breakdown if she really flips out every time someone she works with isn't super serious about every aspect of their work. Part of being a professional is also being able to deal with a wide variety of personalities and coworkers. She shows zero signs of being able to handle that the moment it comes to anything that affects her.

I work in workplaces where people don't get high at work, and where everyone is furious about the lack of real job evaluations or ability to progress. I don't think she's being unreasonable.

It's not like she's just not bothering to do some minor admin, an evaluation is something she needs. Anyway, most of the reactions were before Tai said she was going to do it properly later.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Apr 2015, 06:01
I'll also point out that this is not just a job for Claire. This is the evaluation for her months-long school internship for her classes. Essentially this is her grade for the semester that Tai is mucking about with. The grade for a course she needs for the career she has chosen as her life's work, not to see whether or not she gets that twenty five cent an hour raise.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 27 Apr 2015, 20:20
I'll also point out that this is not just a job for Claire. This is the evaluation for her months-long school internship for her classes. Essentially this is her grade for the semester that Tai is mucking about with. The grade for a course she needs for the career she has chosen as her life's work, not to see whether or not she gets that twenty five cent an hour raise.

The annoyance over that isn't what I'm complaining about, its the "EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE" flip out over the fact that her advisor sells her boss weed. Was she a good advisor before she learned this information? If yes, then she is just as good of an advisor after she learned that information.4

EDIT: Even on the first part, calmly responding how important it is instead of getting that angry that fast is a more professional response. Everyone comments on how she is trying to be professional, but the truth is, she isn't professional either. She is just super serious and passionate about her work, and overreacts when anyone else isn't. That isn't professionalism.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 27 Apr 2015, 20:38
I saw it as her lamenting that no one (at least, those who have power over her future - her boss, and her adviser) seems to take what she's doing seriously. So, it's frustration of the lack of professionalism overall, I think, and really not about the weed at all. It just happens to be that which gives Claire the impression that they don't seem to have a serious work ethic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 27 Apr 2015, 22:59
Or she's exercising her famously dry wit and hamming it up for effect.
Title: Re: WCDT 2942-2946 (20-24 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Apr 2015, 23:26
After all, others have over-dramatized (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1641).