I dunno mate. God knows I sat there feeling kinda awful for most of the characters the entire time. Particularly Furiosa's soldiers, who follow her orders, fight and die for her, but were always ultimately going to be betrayed and slain.
I didn't say their wasn't emotion or feelings in the movie, just that it wasn't something you're going to walk away from feeling like you learned something new about yourself or the universe.
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It hit me when she went off road and lied to them that their on a different mission and her soldiers just rolled with it that she's taking them for a ride and ultimately going to make them road kill. Her soldiers only realizing she made a wrong turn after seeing their own brothers attacking them. (puns intended)
Some real heavy shit happens like the very pregnant one getting killed, as well as her baby. Learning to trust some men and that they're not all bad (Max and Nux), after a life of abuse by men. Tons of heavy stuff, but nothing really heavy enough to contemplate existence or change the way most people live their daily lives. It was fun and a great time but not really ground breaking as far as the plot goes. But then again maybe I've seen to many movie/read too many books that I feel that way.
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I'm still holding out hope that Immortan Joe's son (the big one) survived the crash at the end and becomes Lord Humongous.
It would explain the neck brace, burns, and hockey mask in the Road Warrior
Nah, Rictus just does not have the capacity if you think about it. Humungous was just way too charismatic. Most of Rictus' dialogue was parroting, like the bit where he learns about his baby brother.
I like Rictus, but he's more Blaster than Master
A joke for those who've seen the movie:
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sad thing is its true! :laugh:
Been to see it five different times now with five different people.
One of them now prescribes to the great god V8.
Echoes some other things I've seen some people say.
Have to respectfully disagree with some of it, though I can sympathize with most of it.
I need to watch it again before I can *really* comment on the theme of the visual representation and camera focusing for the 'Wives', but what I remember about the movie is that
A) No one who survives gets the worse for wear / dirtier in this film (at least not for long), so that seems like a hard point to argue for propping up the argument.
B) There's only one scene I can think of where the camera really focuses on the 'Wives's bodies and their conventional attractiveness, and that's the scene in which they're introduced, and where they make a *very* stark contrast to the filth, squalor, disease, disfigurement, and pain we've seen all the other characters and factions so far in.
Personally if I was going to argue something along the lines of this article, my thesis would be more along the lines of how this film's importance as a feminist action movie is that it's a big step in the right direction (on top of being a damned fine example of an action movie period), highlighting how fucked up most of its brethren are. Not a level 10, but at least a level 2 among a bunch of level 0 commoners.
Which to be fair is something she sorta touches on.
Also did I mention it's just a damned good movie at base anyway?
I will say now that I've seen it, I saw a lot less of the Patriarchy vs Matriarchy/bad vs good than a lot of people were suggesting in it. It was there, yes. And certainly Immortan Joe was a horrible person and a clear example of the worst parts of patriarchy. But the women of the Green Place were not some saints either. They were the better option sure. But...
In the end though they went right back to where it started. Essentially using the tools of the patriarchy (Killing Joe, taking his stuff) in the name of survival. Time will see what they turn that civilization into, what happens next. And how whoever is left in Gas Town and Bullet Town respond.
As far as the women go... Yeah they were clearly conventionally attractive and scantily dressed. I can see that for most of the film they didn't exactly have a chance to change, or clothes to change into seeing as how they were on the run for about 90% of the movie. They all did have moments of strength. But I can also say.. I don't remember any of their names. I vaguely remember one of their names being mentioned... I'm not even sure any of the others were. But then I can only remember 4 people's name in the whole movie so... That's probably not saying a whole lot.
It was a good movie. I kind of see why people would call it a feminist movie. But that really depends on how you define feminism too. Those who think that the existence of women in a starring role means it was destroying 'men's action films' are absolutely absurd though, and feeling threatened over the tiniest of things.
Wikipedia exists to impose order where it is neither useful nor important.
The metaphor I'm going to use is pretentious, but it's like having a masterful painting in front of you, and insisting on trying to understand it by examining the molecular structure of the paint.
I mean maybe you'll get something out of it, okay, but probably not what you're looking for.
Still, I've said what I feel I need to on the matter, no need to keep repeating myself so I'll stop.
Considering I spent tonight overanalyzing Weyland-Yutani's 'plan' in Alien and Aliens, I have no room to throw stones.