May is gonna try and hit that. I can see it in her eyes. God-speed, May.
Also why are Dale's glasses glowing again?
Interesting party. It seems that everyone is there. Even May who hasn´t been part of the social circle of Faye and Marty by now. I wonder if Tai and Dora will show up.
It seems to me that Bubbles is getting more and more annoyed with every panel. I wonder if this will lead to anything spectacular or if she will silently give up and leave the party early. I´m hoping for the former, of cause.
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A Mecha or Mech would be a piloted humanoid machine. Like in Pacific Rim.
What bugs me is that Marigold and Dale would know this. I mean, does Bubbles LOOK like she has a pilot?Yes, Bubbles is big, but surely not big enough for a human pilot. It seems uncharacteristically clueless for both Marigold and Dale.
What bugs me is that Marigold and Dale would know this. I mean, does Bubbles LOOK like she has a pilot?Yes, Bubbles is big, but surely not big enough for a human pilot. It seems uncharacteristically clueless for both Marigold and Dale.
Would the pilot have to ride inside? Maybe they think Bubbles is a ROV like current combat drones.What bugs me is that Marigold and Dale would know this. I mean, does Bubbles LOOK like she has a pilot?Yes, Bubbles is big, but surely not big enough for a human pilot. It seems uncharacteristically clueless for both Marigold and Dale.
Does Faye really think it's an act? Or does she just mean be himself and be nice?
They were commenting because they're afraid of you. They're commenting because they think you're cool.
It's just that everything Faye says sounds like a snark.The air-quotes didn't help...
I have been thinking about whether Claire might have a common frame of reference with Bubbles. She, too, after all, has had to deal with the fact that there is a significant difference between the person she really is and 'the chassis into which she was originally installed', to put it in Synthetic terms. The comparison is not even slightly exact but it is there.
I'm guessing (given who's NOT shown up and the sheer irony of size + personality) the one person whose about to show up and talk to her easily is Pintsize. He has (oh so many) flaws but always comes across as supremely relaxed at whatever the universe throws at him up to and including seven-foot tall ex-combat droids.
Plus he's never really had an arc.
Is Clinton coming to the party? Considering how he reacted to Momo, he'd probably freak out when he sees Bubbles.
I hope he comes to the party. :evil:
Probably having something to do with her hefting him casually off the floor 30 seconds after they said 'hello'.
I don't think that Bubbles is uncomfortable with her chassis. I think she's using it to keep people from getting close. She can think that it makes other people uncomfortable, so it gives her an excuse not to mingle with people and feel noble about her isolation. Take away that excuse and she would have to face the fact that she's the one who's uncomfortable around humans, not vice versa. In fact, of everyone we've seen the only one who has shown any discomfort around her is Marten. Probably having something to do with her hefting him casually off the floor 30 seconds after they said 'hello'.
There's a worst-case outcome possible with Pintsize befriending Bubbles. What if he teaches her how to be spontaneous and overcome her inhibitions?
Bubbles, you really are going to have to make an effort here, after all, you are here at Fayes invite
Either way, I feel that positive emotions wouldn't be the first thing a programmer would write into the code for a military AI. Kind of a sad thing, that thought.An AI isnt written by a programmer ?
An AI isnt written by a programmer ?
Its a neural network. It writes itself through positive and negative feedback.
I thought it was understood that the AIs were an emergent phenomenon based on a hadware and software configuration no-one expected to work the way it did, but which has since been replicated successfully, even if no-one knows how exactly it works. Or that was Momo's claim to Marten way back when. How the singularity might have affected this is unknown though.An AI isnt written by a programmer ?
Its a neural network. It writes itself through positive and negative feedback.
FWIW, we know very little about the QC-verse AIs other than they are seemingly software rather than hardware-based. Purely FWIW, I suspect that they can even reproduce 'biologically' if they choose to do so but generally refrain because it freaks out humans (the first successful event was the one the AIs all referred to as 'the Singularity' happening).
To the topic, I believe that the first AIs 'grew' around algorithmic 'seeds' that Dr Ellicott-Chatham and his team wrote using equipment and calculations that he created. So, in a very real sense, he is their progenitor.
I would love there to be a scene in this arc where Hannelore gives Bubbles a hug. When Bubbles asks why, she makes a comment about 'wanting to be there for my sister'.
I thought it was understood that the AIs were an emergent phenomenon based on a hadware and software configuration no-one expected to work the way it did, but which has since been replicated successfully, even if no-one knows how exactly it works. Or that was Momo's claim to Marten way back when. How the singularity might have affected this is unknown though.An AI isnt written by a programmer ?
Its a neural network. It writes itself through positive and negative feedback.
FWIW, we know very little about the QC-verse AIs other than they are seemingly software rather than hardware-based. Purely FWIW, I suspect that they can even reproduce 'biologically' if they choose to do so but generally refrain because it freaks out humans (the first successful event was the one the AIs all referred to as 'the Singularity' happening).
To the topic, I believe that the first AIs 'grew' around algorithmic 'seeds' that Dr Ellicott-Chatham and his team wrote using equipment and calculations that he created. So, in a very real sense, he is their progenitor.
I would love there to be a scene in this arc where Hannelore gives Bubbles a hug. When Bubbles asks why, she makes a comment about 'wanting to be there for my sister'.
If AI development in QC works anything like the real world, it has to be trained. Before you get a neural net that works the way you want, you go through iterations - discarding and reinventing it by using different algorithms, feeding it different data, and so on. Since AIs in the QC-Verse do have civil rights and maybe it would even be considered murder to delete an unfinished AI (remember robo-jail? May was malfunctioning, but she was punished instead resetting her or deleting her).
Since there don't seem any ethical problems with creating AIs, the process seems to be streamlined (they produce a working AI every time or can tell the difference between 'ethical to delete' and 'self-aware).
So, my theory about Bubbles is this - she just came because Faye called her chicken. I can understand her frustration - truly, everybody but Hanners (who made honest, if awkward conversation) and Marten in the last comic made only remarks about her 'features', and not one asked her if she liked the music, or what she had for hobbies, or included her in an interesting conversation. She herself isn't suave enough to take control of the conversation - when she tries, she just derails it.
Maybe Faye should ease her into the whole 'contact-with-people-situation'
I think the comic that just appeared answers your question. :-D
I'd like to ask Bubbles how she blows off steam. It may involve a pile of scrap metal and a large sledgehammer.
Ok, I'm starting to really dislike Bubbles :-\
"Are those astronaut pants? Because your ass is out of this world!" is probably the pickup line Pintsize tried.
Because she only has their downsides, at least so far.
I almost never feel bad for Pintsize, but... aww, poor Pintsize. :(
I still like Bubbles. I just don't understand why she's there, even to prove a point. Part of me thinks she's a bit overwhelmed because she is surrounded by strangers who are not exactly polite, and can't decide if she should leave or not. It might to have been a good idea for Faye to engage her in conversation and let the others join in, or not, at the onset, instead of giving the others a chance to treat her like a sideshow.
FWIW, we know very little about the QC-verse AIs other than they are seemingly software rather than hardware-based.Yes, but so what ? There still needs to be a neural network, no matter if its hardware or software. Or some other structure that can actually learn and dynamically change. If you actually have to program the "AI" its static and cannot learn.
FWIW, we know very little about the QC-verse AIs other than they are seemingly software rather than hardware-based.
Yes, but so what ? There still needs to be a neural network, no matter if its hardware or software. Or some other structure that can actually learn and dynamically change. If you actually have to program the "AI" its static and cannot learn.
There have been lots and lots of different ways to try to make "AI", neural networks are just one of them, not particularly more successful than others. Nowadays "General AI", actually trying to make something with generic human-style intelligence, is pretty much a scientific backwater, but now and then I read some papers and they don't really have a focus on neural networks.FWIW, we know very little about the QC-verse AIs other than they are seemingly software rather than hardware-based.Yes, but so what ? There still needs to be a neural network, no matter if its hardware or software. Or some other structure that can actually learn and dynamically change. If you actually have to program the "AI" its static and cannot learn.
I almost never feel bad for Pintsize, but... aww, poor Pintsize. :(
Are you now feeling badly for Pintsize because you've suddenly decided that Pintsize is a lovable rogue after all, or because you dislike Bubbles, enemy of my enemy and all that?
Okay, yes, Pintsize is a lovable rogue, but I can never feel badly for him when this happens, hilarious as his "pickup lines" may be.
I think she should not have come to the party (even just to prove a point) if she was not prepared to be a bit more tolerant of others' faults, but I don't dislike her.
"Are those astronaut pants? Because I can see uranus in them!"
Not at all. If the software is self-modifying (rewriting itself for greater efficiency) then it doesn't automatically need a neural network. All it needs is a vast active memory and a powerful processor as all parts of the algorithm need to be actively processed at all times. This, by the way, may be the 'unique hardware' that Momo referred to - a new generation of CPUs and RAM memory systems that are orders of magnitude greater in capacity and more powerful than the current silicon/gallium semi-conductors.Re-read what you answered to. Your posting doesnt oppose mine.
Neural networks were an attempt to recreate the architecture of biological brains as hardware. The technology slammed into an upper limit at about cockroach-equivalent due to the difficulty of building the physical interlinks between the 'neurons'. Polymorphic code has apparently solved this problem because it was a paradigm shift away from thinking that an AI must necessarily physically resemble a primate brain.
I still like Bubbles. I just don't understand why she's there, even to prove a point. Part of me thinks she's a bit overwhelmed because she is surrounded by strangers who are not exactly polite, and can't decide if she should leave or not. It might to have been a good idea for Faye to engage her in conversation and let the others join in, or not, at the onset, instead of giving the others a chance to treat her like a sideshow.
I don't understand why Faye invited her to a party, and then instead of being the one to try to engage her and integrate her into the group, she sends Marten (even after he states that he is scared of her) over to talk to her.
I don't understand why Faye invited her to a party, and then instead of being the one to try to engage her and integrate her into the group, she sends Marten (even after he states that he is scared of her) over to talk to her.
It's simple enough. Faye already knows Bubbles is comfortable enough with her to talk to her in any and all scenarios; comfortable enough even to insult her. What Faye is trying to do is push Bubbles out of her antisocial shell by forcing her to both interact with and also to find value in interacting with total strangers.
"Are those astronaut pants? Because I can see uranus in them!""Are those astronaut pants? Because it smells like you need your Maximum Absorbency Garment changed!" :psyduck:
That's my guess. Maybe Pintsize has never been crude to her before, and his revert to form was the last straw. I guess we will see.
I just classified "mathematical knitting" as a serious topic. hm.
"Are those astronaut pants? Because it smells like you need your Maximum Absorbency Garment changed!" :psyduck:
It's been just over 20 years since I evolved (via genetic algorithms) a simple rules-based system AI for missile defence.
Not very bright - maybe the equivalent of a spiny lobster - but in simulated engagements, seriously scary. It took hours to analyse the logs of a 20 second scenario. The actions were far too quick for a high level consciousness to follow. Even the displays lagged, things were happening too fast.
I didn't "design" or "program" the system. I just threw a population of systems into a series of attack scenarios. Those that survived got to breed the next generation. Rinse, lather, repeat. Then trimmed the result so a trivial inefficiency in some known cases was traded for decreased reaction time and thus better performance in unforeseen and unforeseeable situations.
The results were seriously scary in tests, as I said.
:wow:I just classified "mathematical knitting" as a serious topic. hm.
I blame geometry dog.
You know the oddest thing about "dord"?I think I've seen density abbreviated as d in some introductory physics textbooks, though beyond a certain level, rho is pretty much universal. And for two-dimensional density, I've seen sigma used.
I don't think I've ever seen density represented as anything other than rho.
(...I have a vague recollection of delta, but I think that was dealing with "density" over two dimensions.)
Bubbles has anger issues. Just like somebody else.
I, for one, can't help but wonder at who and what Bubbles may be really angry. I suspect that we're going to find out next week in some... disturbing detail.
Respecting someone's desire to leave is important.This. I'm not quite sure what Faye was playing at here.
Pugnacious Peach is brave, foolish, task-focused, or some combination. What she's doing with Bubbles is similar to trying to pet a cat which has arched its back and turned its tail into a bottle brush.
Hah. Yeah, no. This is pretty much the point where I stop trying. Usually forever.
I don't deal well with aggressive behavior.
This is where I recall, as I do more and more often, that even Claire had her haters when she was introduced.
I do this in spite of knowing that strong AI is probably the biggest existential risk for the human race right now. Because it's what I have to do, that's why. I can't really explain it.
Well, that's one way to blow off steam.
.Sounds about right, though I think you underestimate geckos. More like amphibia, batrachians.
ELIZA was about as smart as grass. Modern chatterbots like the ones in the Loebner prize competition are probably smarter than clams, which is a huge step up. Those missile-defence systems that were described as being about as smart as a spiny lobster - which is about the same as a cockroach - were another order of magnitude up. But then you get to things like Google Translate and the neural networks that do unsupervised classification and description of things in photographs, and IBM's Watson and the new self-driving cars. Those are probably about as smart as a snake or a gecko, and that's actually about three more orders of magnitude.
I'm working on something that, if I'm right about a couple of mad-science crackpot theories about long-term and short-term memory and self-awareness and intention, will be as smart as a mouse.Gronk. That's past the line. The one between thing and animal. An entity that has to be accorded some rights. Ethics become involved, as they do with animal cruelty prevention.
This is where I recall, as I do more and more often, that even Claire had her haters when she was introduced.Hardly relevant. Some people have no soul and don't like cheesy puns. Different from not liking someone for being weirdly passive aggressive and then nearly punching someone's head off for asking them to stay.
What should Faye have done? "Wait up" is hardly aggressively badgering, even she's clearly annoyed while saying it.
Wait what does dord have to do with density?Dord was an entry in an early edition of a dictionary. The entry was supposed to read something like "D or d (contr.) Density." However, it was mistakenly entered into the dictionary as "Dord (contr.) Density."
What could Faye have done better? Plenty of things. The party for one was a bad idea. Like I said before, it's taking someone afraid to swim and pushing them in the deep end. Panicking and flailing is bound to happen. It may have been a bit harder to convince her to come out for this, but a better choice would have just been hanging out at the apartment with a small group. Marten, Hanners and most likely Claire. That would have allowed her to socialize in a much lower stress environment. Even at the party, just checking in with her now and then would be a good idea. Also not going after here acting pissed off would have been smart. But you know. Faye.
Yeah, but she knows Pintsize, and as someone pointed out before, they've had an actual meaningful conversation. Did Jeph forget about that already?
Yeah, but she knows Pintsize, and as someone pointed out before, they've had an actual meaningful conversation. Did Jeph forget about that already?
I do this in spite of knowing that strong AI is probably the biggest existential risk for the human race right now. Because it's what I have to do, that's why. I can't really explain it.
Someday I hope to create something that will decide it has to destroy me in order to save humanity from mad scientists like myself who take insane risks with the fate of humankind.
Jeph's introduced Bubbles for a reason, you don't bring someone like Bubbles into the mix without a very good reason, so I'm going to hold off judgement until next week as to where this is going with her.
Quote from: MorituriI do this in spite of knowing that strong AI is probably the biggest existential risk for the human race right now. Because it's what I have to do, that's why. I can't really explain it.Let's give your brain-child internet access, a 3D printer, and a PayPay account. Let's see what happens.
Someday I hope to create something that will decide it has to destroy me in order to save humanity from mad scientists like myself who take insane risks with the fate of humankind.
Yes, that will have to be another character. It would be enjoyable, though, to have introversion accepted and not regarded as a problem to be fixed.