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Title: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Detachable Felix on 18 Oct 2015, 16:30
It's a new poll, it's a new day, it's a new week,

So let's have some nice, healthy comic discussion ♫
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: downtowneddie on 18 Oct 2015, 18:11
And comic.

I like Faye's realization in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Oct 2015, 18:16
"Deliberately downcycle your processor core." That's a good one.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 18 Oct 2015, 18:20
Which brings up the question of what AIs do to (relatively) safely get a buzz.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Oct 2015, 18:42
Faye, you were worse when you were drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 18 Oct 2015, 18:44
Which brings up the question of what AIs do to (relatively) safely get a buzz.

I was actually a bit surprised that May wasn't taking some of Pintsize's drivers stash.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: bhtooefr on 18 Oct 2015, 18:47
May's been reading Silent PC Review too much.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Oct 2015, 19:25
Comic.

I think this is a common thought when you're the sober one surrounded by drunk friends.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 18 Oct 2015, 19:33
Looks like Marten, Claire and Faye will be the only ones left feelin' good tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 18 Oct 2015, 19:50
You never know with Hanners.  She might have some hi tech hangover cure her friends in orbit cooked up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Morituri on 18 Oct 2015, 21:26
I used to drink to make other people more interesting. 

But when they drank too, it didn't work.  Eventually I just quit trying, which is probably for the best. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ysth on 18 Oct 2015, 23:52
I like how it ends with "stupid" and "punch", the themes of Friday's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: LilBlueSky on 18 Oct 2015, 23:57
Soooo...  They're drinking gin and..  Gin with vodka and blue crap mixed in? (aka Windex the mixed drink)
I use to be a bartender and the bar I worked at made Windex with a gin,  vodka and blue crap instead of just vodka and blue crap. It's actually quite the yummy mixer if you don't mind the blue crap that is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 19 Oct 2015, 00:09
Jeph needs to start a microbrewery and market "Bro IPA" for realsies, yo.
Call it the "Questionable Cask" brewery or something.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Oct 2015, 00:54
This is the day when Faye realises (as many a person who has gone dry at a party realises) just how dumb people act when drunk. Even intelligent people like Hannelore!

I just hope that Faye isn't going to start becoming a bit of a harpy on the subject, telling everyone that drinking just makes you look dumb. People can react to having to go dry by becoming unreasonable on the subject with others.

Oh, and is Hanners talking about Buttrocket?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 19 Oct 2015, 01:21
Soooo...  They're drinking gin and..  Gin with vodka and blue crap mixed in? (aka Windex the mixed drink)
I don't know if it'd actually work, given the ambient light levels, but tonic drinks do fluoresce blue when exposed to a black light.  Any effect would be quite subtle in that flat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 19 Oct 2015, 02:49
Soooo...  They're drinking gin and..  Gin with vodka and blue crap mixed in? (aka Windex the mixed drink)

I remember one night when I was young deciding with a friend to get drunk on something mixed with blue crap... vodka I think.

And I couldn't do it. The blue crap was just too dreadful. I suppose we could have then proceeded to get drunk on vodka, but the blue crap had sapped our moviation completely. Probably for the best.

I wasn't a fan of gin in those days, but I've come to like it. I rather like the dictum that states that the correct way to make a martini is to fill a glass with gin and then wave it in the general direction of Italy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Rincewind on 19 Oct 2015, 06:23
I love May's square drunk-bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Oct 2015, 09:49
If by 'blue crap,' you people mean blue curacao, then I'm afraid I must disagree with all of you. The first time I blacked out was the night that I discovered a recipe for the 'sonic screwdriver,' using sprite, vodka, and blue curacao. Nothing remained the next morning, but there was a mysterious pile of vomit in the sink.

I haven't had any since, though I'm fair sure that was the vodka's fault, not the blue stuff. I liked it well enough, I just haven't felt the urge to get that drunk again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Oct 2015, 11:12
Fayepiphany
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 19 Oct 2015, 15:38
If by 'blue crap,' you people mean blue curacao, then I'm afraid I must disagree with all of you. The first time I blacked out was the night that I discovered a recipe for the 'sonic screwdriver,' using sprite, vodka, and blue curacao. Nothing remained the next morning, but there was a mysterious pile of vomit in the sink.

I haven't had any since, though I'm fair sure that was the vodka's fault, not the blue stuff. I liked it well enough, I just haven't felt the urge to get that drunk again.

It WAS the blue curacao and it WASN'T the blue curacao.  Blue curacao is a liqueur, basically a lower-proof liquor with added sugar. In and of itself, fairly innocuous. Combining its orange flavor with Sprite however would very effectively mask the strong grain alcohol burn of the vodka, letting you get REAL drunk without realizing it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 19 Oct 2015, 15:55
The reason I couldn't stand the blue curacao is because it is sickly sweet.

The idea of ADDING SPRITE to it makes me feel ill.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 19 Oct 2015, 16:40
The reason I couldn't stand the blue curacao is because it is sickly sweet.

The idea of ADDING SPRITE to it makes me feel ill.

Agreed.  I get tired of sweet drinks very quickly myself.


{Edit: fixed quote brackets - Felix}
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: improvnerd on 19 Oct 2015, 18:29
there was a mysterious pile of vomit in the sink.

Did you dust it for fingerprints?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Oct 2015, 18:46
I'm pretty sure Jeph didn't mean Windex the mixed drink. I also think he was joking.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ZoeB on 19 Oct 2015, 19:03
When I look at Momo... I see too much of myself. I've never seen the fun in being even mildly intoxicated.

This comic  (Faye, Hanners) pretty much expresses how I feel. Yet I don't want to spoil it for others by remarking on how harmful downcycling one's processor core is. Just encourage people not to do it in excess. If they do though, their life, their choice.

Just don't do it while operating dangerous machinery. Cars. Tanks. Destroyers. Bubbles' chassis. Then it's no longer just their life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 19 Oct 2015, 20:38
I had assumed that he was just kidding about the Windex drink, but it turns out that it is a thing after all. No, I do not get out a whole lot, thanks for asking. For the benefit of those of you who have sensibly decided to stay indoors while others are poisoning themselves with dreadful concoctions*, here are the results of my research. Everyone else can just skip ahead to the next scintillating post.

A Windex "martini"** always involves vokda (you wouldn't want anything you can taste over the revolting sweetness, I suppose), triple sec (maybe not always?), and of course blue curacao. Sometimes instead of blue curacao, a blue coloured vokda is added instead ("UV® blue raspberry vodka", whatever on earth that is). Sometimes lime juice is added. It's basically rocket fuel, sugar, and wheeeeeeee blue colouring. Funny that blue colouring is usually used as a warning to indicate that something shouldn't be drunk (e.g. actual windex). Lots of soft drinks are blue these days as well. Makes me wonder whether the makers of the original blue stuff they add to poisons are contemplating changing its colour to something else.

* The older I get, the more I realise that if I am going to poison myself, it may as well be with something decent. This confers the additional bonus that it's too expensive to do too often.
** Still prefer my definition of a martini (see previous post)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Oct 2015, 20:41
Oh, I don't doubt that Windex is a drink, just that Jeph was referring to that instead of actual Windex :wow:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 19 Oct 2015, 20:51
Oh, I don't doubt that Windex is a drink, just that Jeph was referring to that instead of actual Windex :wow:

Yes. I didn't mean to infer that you might have doubted it was a drink. I had initially assumed he was referring to actual windex as well, but in my case only because I had no idea there was an actual drink called windex. It was your post that alerted me to the contrary.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Oct 2015, 20:52
Heh, I didn't know for sure that it was one, but I wouldn't have been surprised (and am not surprised now that I know).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Oct 2015, 21:55
Won't it be confusing if Faye and Bubbles independently go to the matchmaking service and wind up paired with each other?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Oct 2015, 00:07
I wonder if Faye had ever expected to be the one to say that...? Especially to Hanners!

Well, at least we now know the effect of alcohol on Hannelore - Blabbermouth. She doesn't become touchy-feely though, which probably tells you just how strong her phobias are that they can spear even through the dulling effect of hard liquor!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 20 Oct 2015, 00:57
Okay, Hanners is, as always, adorable.  And this isn't the first time we have seen her heavily intoxicated.  Recall back to the night when Faye and Sven first slept  together (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1079), and Hanners had put away a fair amount of booze.  Faye even commented on the number of martinis she had consumed *after* they had left the bar.  I'm actually rather annoyed that her character seems to be regressing.  She went from being able to hug people close to her, assuming that she had time to prepare for it, to what almost seems like a caricature.  I think that one of the main reasons that I have identified with her is that with my OCD and "no touching" rule, I went from being the guy who flailed and nearly fell off a barstool when sober, and almost sent my drink all over the place when a friend kissed me for spotting her a drink when she had no cash[1] to being able to handle physical contact if I expect it.

[1] There was a minimum on credit cards there, and she was just having one, on account of it being her lunch break.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Oct 2015, 01:25
I'm actually rather annoyed that her character seems to be regressing.

It might be that Jeph wants to keep that as a distinct character quirk. In-universe, I wonder if she has found a nice little safe zone of 'no touch unless I psych myself up' that doesn't require effort or risk for her to live in it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Welu on 20 Oct 2015, 02:33
Even if progress is made, there's still a comfort zone people can default to and sometimes they don't feel the need to push past it. That Hanners is in a safe space where people are aware of her issues and she knows they won't be offended if she doesn't want physical touch is a very secure place to be in for her. It's not necessarily regression to choose there's no need to go the extra mile at that moment, especially if you know you won't be judged for it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Kugai on 20 Oct 2015, 14:31
And there goes Hanners overthinking things again

Chill out Hanners, have a Rum and Coke
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 20 Oct 2015, 15:33
Or maybe just a sparkling water.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: wlewisiii on 20 Oct 2015, 18:23
Oh, I don't doubt that Windex is a drink, just that Jeph was referring to that instead of actual Windex :wow:

Yes. I didn't mean to infer that you might have doubted it was a drink. I had initially assumed he was referring to actual windex as well, but in my case only because I had no idea there was an actual drink called windex. It was your post that alerted me to the contrary.

According to the Googles...

1 oz vodka
2 oz UV® blue raspberry vodka
6 oz lemon-lime soda

I'll take a Manhattan instead.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Oct 2015, 18:35
Ehh, I'm not crazy about vermouth. Good whiskey doesn't need anything added.

Re: Today's comic - easily the most I've ever liked May. Adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: electromgneticDstroyosaur on 20 Oct 2015, 18:40
Remember how Marten freaked out when Faye lifted a coffee mug to her face the morning after her hospital visit?  Yeah, I had a similar freakout for just a second in tonight's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Oct 2015, 18:40
Because of the can? Yeah, makes sense.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 20 Oct 2015, 18:46
Dang. I never knew May could blush...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 20 Oct 2015, 21:06
I'm just as happy to simply wave my whisky towards Italy as I am my gin. Happier, even.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Ravenswing on 20 Oct 2015, 23:03
When I look at Momo... I see too much of myself. I've never seen the fun in being even mildly intoxicated.
Hell yeah.  I decided back in high school that I wasn't the least bit interested in (a) spending money I didn't have to (b) drink something that tasted awful, and (c) risk all the fallout I'd get from that, so that I would (d) feel awful the next day -- quite exclusive of the (e) high probability that when wasted I'd have done or said something I'd have bitterly regretted doing -- just because (f) most everyone else was doing it, for (g) benefits no one could particularly articulate to me, beyond that (h) most everyone else was doing it.

Back in college days, a friend had an apartment across from the university, and one semester she had pretty much weekly drunken bashes after chorus rehearsal.  Completely fried, she decided that she wanted to see the roof of her apartment building, and not liking the sound of that, I followed her and another guy up.  She started dancing drunkenly on the parapet, five stories up ... and started to topple over.  Pinwheeling.  Other guy was blitzed and giggling, no use. 

Now it happens I'm an acrophobe.  Quite a severe one.  I can barely climb a two story ladder.  I certainly can't climb a tree higher than that.  You will not get me within 10' of the edge of a roof.  Unquestionably the bravest thing I ever did was force myself to the edge and pull her back, and it felt like it took me an eternity, step by step, to get there.  (Probably didn't hurt that I had a huge crush on her, and that helped blow through the paralytic terror.)

That was 35 years ago now.  She had a career, got married, had three daughters.  The youngest started college this fall; the middle daughter was married this past spring.  She's had a long life, and we're still friends.  And she would've been dead on the pavement decades ago if I'd been drinking too. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Ravenswing on 20 Oct 2015, 23:08
But as far as tonight's footnote goes ... man, May doesn't have to watch grainy bits on a smartphone.  I bet the QC universe's version of LiveLeak or DailyMotion would have footage galore.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Oct 2015, 23:42
So, that's a little something to add to May's character index card - Is a fangirl of Hank the Dismemberer. Also "can't lie plausibly no matter how hard she tries". Oddly enough, she has a personality somewhat like a teenage girl so I'm wondering how mature she is in AI terms.

Am I the only one who thinks that Corpse Witch desperately needs to hire a script writer to come up with 'stage names' for her fighters?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Oct 2015, 04:22
Just noticed May is still wearing her name tag from work, weird. Seems like something she'd ditch fast after clocking out, that's what I do...

She may just leave it on there so that she doesn't forget where it is. Think about it - she doesn't sweat, so she doesn't necessarily need a clean shirt every day. So she probably just takes that one off, nametag and all, when she gets home and puts it back on the next day when she's getting ready for work.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Oct 2015, 05:19
I'm just as happy to simply wave my whisky towards Italy as I am my gin. Happier, even.
I've never actually had a proper martini. Gin and tonics are so good I see no need to mix gin with anything else.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Oct 2015, 11:42
Swoosh Cola, the drink that refreshes the parts other Cola's can't reach.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 21 Oct 2015, 13:53
OMG.  May with a fangirl crush on a radical illegal fighting robot guy named Hank the Dismemberer makes here 'dere' in a way I've never seen here - that blush!  Usually just super 'Tsun tsun'.  Yay!

I can see it now "Do you want to meet him?"  LOL.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ankhtahr on 21 Oct 2015, 14:43
Hm, I wonder if an Anthro-PCs autograph would simply be a message signed with that Anthro-PCs secret GPG key… That way everybody knew that the autograph was authentic, and I seriously doubt that AnthroPCs have a handwriting which can be used to identify them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Oct 2015, 14:54
The ones with hands probably do.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ankhtahr on 21 Oct 2015, 15:08
I don't exactly know how us humans develop a handwriting, or if this process might start with AI too, but I sincerely doubt that there would be much difference between different AIs in similar chassis. Sure, if the AI were based on genetic algorithms and just uses many iterations to learn how to write, they might each come to a different resulting method of writing, but I sincerely doubt those differences would be comparable to the differences between human handwriting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 21 Oct 2015, 17:21
When you consider the variety of AI personalities, I can easily imagine this variation encompassing handwriting, regardless of whether the writing is simply due to programming (in which case, some kind of variation is put in there by design) or by the AIs having to go through the motions of learning to write the same way we do.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 21 Oct 2015, 18:33
Completely unrelated, but for some reason the latest Go Get A Roomie made me wonder if that's a Dora cameo.

It ain't SFW.

http://www.gogetaroomie.com/comic/beautiful-you
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Oct 2015, 18:54
Oh hey, another comic to binge! Not really that crazy about it so far though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Oct 2015, 19:36
Well thought out, and it makes sense that May would have some background about AIs in military equipment.

So if the first deployments were considered a failed experiment, what happens now when an AnthroPC shows up at the recruiting station? Why was Bubbles allowed to keep her chassis, never mind why she wanted to?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: mustang6172 on 21 Oct 2015, 19:47
Next panel.

Faye:  So what are AI's doing to resolve global warming?
May:  QWERTY and die!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Oct 2015, 19:58
May: We're working on a project to provide our power using renewable bio-fuel.
Faye: That sounds nice.
May: Yeah, I'm helping build the human corpse incinerator for the power plant.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: jheartney on 21 Oct 2015, 20:12
[She may just leave it on there so that she doesn't forget where it is. Think about it - she doesn't sweat, so she doesn't necessarily need a clean shirt every day. So she probably just takes that one off, nametag and all, when she gets home and puts it back on the next day when she's getting ready for work.

Earlier May specifically dissed the notion of spending money on clothes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2720). She may figure the uniform is a good as anything else, so she just dresses on her employer's dime.

Which leaves open the question of what May does spend money on. Cell phone contract? Does she pay Dale for the electricity she powers up with? She shares rent, but she probably doesn't need a lot of space. Maybe she's saving to buy a better chassis.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ZoeB on 21 Oct 2015, 20:45
Can  Jeph really be that good?

Exploring issues of personal diversity, person rights (human rights in our world), personal agency, morality, PR (I'm a goody 2-shoes, but even I don't believe the big AIs didn't squash this as a potential PR disaster rather than an ethical issue), the politics of patriotism, and our willful blindness to the inconvenient in just 6 panels...

Yes, I guess he can.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: ZoeB on 21 Oct 2015, 20:55
Not to mention surveillance on AI parolees, privacy and data, and the elephant in the room of big AIs. You can never be too paranoid... so I won't mention them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: DashaBlade on 21 Oct 2015, 22:15
Oh, c'mon May. Everyone knows hypocrisy is humanity's greatest sport. Ignorance is strictly minor league in comparison.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Oct 2015, 23:49
Well, that Josses my theory that Bubbles is an older AI from before the time when the received civil rights. In fact, it is quite possible that she's a volunteer. However, as May pointed out, there is no telling what Black Ops living hells Bubbles may have served through before the Brass decided that she was too mentally and emotionally damaged and gave her an Honourable Discharge on medical grounds.

Quote
"You got your medal and your parade. What else do you want? Eternal gratitude? From the service? Grow up."
-- Spearhead
-- G.I. Joe comic issue #21 (http://www.option38.com/comics/gijoe/sm_21.asp)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 22 Oct 2015, 01:51
First of, it's called football.

Second:

Next panel.

Faye:  So what are AI's doing to resolve global warming?
May:  QWERTY and die!

Didn't Hannerdad invent satellites to keep earth's albedo stable? That would regulate temperature, right?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Oct 2015, 03:02
First of, it's called football.

Also soccer; don't be parochial!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Tova on 22 Oct 2015, 03:54
Interestingly... http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/when-did-we-start-calling-football-soccer-180951751/?no-ist

Edit: There's even a paper. My goodness. http://ns.umich.edu/Releases/2014/June14/Its-football-not-soccer.pdf
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Oct 2015, 04:53
From the first link:
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Simple fact is, most people don't realise Soccer is an English term mainly because it was primarily used by Public School boys and people of that social class.

Well, that's me outed (for those who didn't know).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Oct 2015, 07:30

From the first link:
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Simple fact is, most people don't realise Soccer is an English term mainly because it was primarily used by Public School boys and people of that social class.

Well, that's me outed (for those who didn't know).

That's okay, the guy behind the institution who printed that article was English, too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Oct 2015, 07:36
I meant, I was outed as a product of private education, specifically...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Oct 2015, 07:40
I've always found it confusing when people from the UK use the term "public school" to mean private school.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Oct 2015, 07:58
Right? What do they call public schools then?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: wlewisiii on 22 Oct 2015, 08:08
Right? What do they call public schools then?

State Schools since the State is the one paying the cost of the education as opposed to the (rich) public paying the cost at the Public Schools.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: DSL on 22 Oct 2015, 08:23
Oh, c'mon May. Everyone knows hypocrisy is humanity's greatest sport. Ignorance is strictly minor league in comparison.  :-P

Ignorance is the sport. Hypocrisy is the playbook.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Oct 2015, 09:07
I've always found it confusing when people from the UK use the term "public school" to mean private school.

Originally, the nobility employed tutors to educate their children privately.  The church then set up schools at which those not able to employ tutors could purchase education for their children - they were publicly available to those who could pay (junior nobility, wealthy merchants...), hence "Public Schools".  Many British Public Schools are the continuation of foundations set up in Tudor times under the aegis of Henry VIII - hence the large number of schools called "The King's School" in different places (my school was nominally one such, but additionally claimed continuity with an earlier foundation going back to the religious order set up in Canterbury by St Augustine in 693, making it the oldest school in Britain).

By contrast, state schools are only available to those living within their catchment area - they are not publicly available in a general sense.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Oct 2015, 12:12
So that somewhat explains Bubbles early history in regards to being a Military AI.

And Politics is the high end of the sport of ignorance and hypocrisy
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 22 Oct 2015, 15:12
I knew there were several things I liked about May.  And cynicism may be one of her more positive aspects.

Also this is where Faye goes full-on "You didn't want my attention but I'm here anyway."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Oct 2015, 18:29
Comic's up.

May can be surprisingly perceptive. And unspeakably crude. At the same time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: neurocase on 22 Oct 2015, 19:27
I wouldn't have ever considered the idea of Bubbles and Faye being anything further than friends if it could ever get to that point. But go on, May, I'm listening *finger pyramid of contemplation*
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Post by: improvnerd on 22 Oct 2015, 19:37
I think Fables has lots of potential.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Magniras on 22 Oct 2015, 19:51
Faye wants to hit May now.  I can see it in her eyes.  Godspeed, Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: TheCollector on 22 Oct 2015, 20:10
I for one approve this possible coupling. : 3

Hmm, really makes you wonder now if there was more reasons behind Bubbles actually coming and her self hatred fit back at the arena.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Oct 2015, 20:26
Faye wants to hit May now.  I can see it in her eyes.  Godspeed, Faye.
Given the context, I initially read that with a different interpretation of the word hit than you meant.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 22 Oct 2015, 20:37
Given the look on Faye's face, she almost certainly looks like she'd do to the blue gynoid what she regularly does to Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Oct 2015, 20:53
Faye wants to hit May now.  I can see it in her eyes.  Godspeed, Faye.
Given the context, I initially read that with a different interpretation of the word hit than you meant.

Don't be silly, May's reserving the use of that definition for Bubbles
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Oct 2015, 21:21
Amazingly insightful and somewhat crude summation

May in a nutshell.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 22 Oct 2015, 21:43
This ^. Yay! for insightful May. (As for the rest --- is there any brain bleach left?)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Oct 2015, 00:21
This is one of the reasons why I like the whole idea of Jeph developing the May/Faye friendship. May seems to think on the same level as Faye in many ways. However, she isn't scared of Faye and this gives her the ability to be hyper-blunt about saying things that need to be said.

There are some interesting implications in this:
It is clear that there is a part of May desperately wants to be like how Bubbles presents in some ways - tough, independent and without social connections. Thanks to Dale, May learned better and learning to form connections with people (and I bet Momo would be embarrassed and pleased to learn just how important a personal connection she is) has been a significant step on her path to reformation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: improvnerd on 23 Oct 2015, 00:37
The casual way May says it and the lack of surprise on Faye's part suggest that human/synthetic intimate relationships are not unprecedented

Also, she's lived with Pintsize for... years, maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Lubricus on 23 Oct 2015, 02:05
Yay for May! I like her interpretation of things, but I doubt anything will happen between Faye and Bubbles.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Akima on 23 Oct 2015, 02:49
Character development for May! It looks as if Momo was right about her good heart (or the cyber equivalent).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: TheCollector on 23 Oct 2015, 03:57
This ^. Yay! for insightful May. (As for the rest --- is there any brain bleach left?)
Pfft, Robohumanhomophobe. lol
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Lubricus on 23 Oct 2015, 05:29
Character development for May! It looks as if Momo was right about her good heart (or the cyber equivalent).

"She has a good emotional processor"? :D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2015, 07:06
Honestly I would be more surprised if there haven't been any kind of robot/human pairings. Some people would be against it for a variety of reasons of course. But when it comes down to it, AnthroPC AIs do have a similar outlook on life to humans, we know they posses feelings and libido, many have affection for humans and enjoy spending a lot of time around them. The odds that a human and AnthroPC would meet and have compatible personalities seems like it would have to happen eventually. I don't think that's what we will see between Faye and Bubbles. Their relationship doesn't seem to be based on any kind of romantic or sexual attraction, but as co workers and maybe friends.

As far as May being lesbian? Well that is a flip of a switch, quite literally. May's initial appearance to Dale was based on what the company that set up the hologlass companion trial thought he would appreciate. We know from previous comics that gender for AIs is literally a software setting that they can change. May may or may not have been set to female before she met Dale, but she's clearly decided to stay that way for now, given that she's in a female chassis and uses female pronouns. And she's always been shown with a fascination for female anatomy, especially of the sexual/sexualized kind. So yeah, I could totally see May trying to hook up with another female, be she human or AnthroPC.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Oct 2015, 07:16
Of course, many robots don't have the proper equipment for having sex with humans. For example, I'm willing to bet that May is still "built like a Barbie doll down there", so there are limits to what she could do with a human partner even if she were willing. Ditto Momo. And who knows what Bubbles has under her armor? If they're going to do more than oral sex or handjobs, there will need to be specifically-designed sexbots. Jeph hasn't directly addressed that issue.

My headcanon is that yes, sexbots were invented. But after the singularity hit and robots were emancipated, the sexbots all discovered that it was far more fun to have sex with each other than with humans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Oct 2015, 07:20
Well, there is that Jude Law model...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2015, 07:26
Artificial sex aids existed long before AIs and AnthroPCs. :) I was referring more to romantic attraction between AIs and humans though. It's always been part of QC that the actual mechanics of sexy times are not a subject of conversation. We may see a scene and say 'yup, they're gonna have sex' and another scene that says 'yup, they boned'. But never a scene that shows or discusses the mechanics of it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: bhtooefr on 23 Oct 2015, 07:51
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if May were a lesbian - she's had a long track record of making sexualized comments towards both human and AI women in the comic, and she's been depicted as being disgusted by the idea of at least human male anatomy (Dale's, in particular).

I also wonder how an AI would react if their gender bit were flipped. Jeph's writings about AI gender were before his current knowledge of trans* issues (or even his current stance on AI civil rights), and I wouldn't be surprised if, if given the chance, Jeph would retcon that (he's certainly retconned a lot of other things about AI civil rights)... But, even back then, AIs had a distinctly separate gender identity versus presentation, which is what brought up that whole discussion. I do suspect that it's now seen as distinctly unethical for an AI's companion to flip that gender bit if the mechanic still exists, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's now actually immutable so even the AI can't change it (because a chassis change is possible). Although, then, there's genderfluidity that could come into play...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 23 Oct 2015, 08:38
An AI would certainly be more likely to be binary, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2015, 09:18
Even in the original robot gender comic they referred to them having three settings. Male, Female and Neither.
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Post by: BenRG on 23 Oct 2015, 10:59
Even in the original robot gender comic they referred to them having three settings. Male, Female and Neither.

Well, that's basically the same as us, in the end, isn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2015, 11:14
Nah, there's a whole spectrum of genders out there.  It doesn't even touch on bigender people.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Oct 2015, 13:06
Jeph, in some long ago Q&A, said (if memory serves) that humans and AnthroPCs probably did fall in love with each other but that he wanted to stay far away from discussing robot sex.

He also said that the standard companionship contract specifies "nothing creepy".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: hedgie on 23 Oct 2015, 13:35
Even in the original robot gender comic they referred to them having three settings. Male, Female and Neither.
The intended joke was 1s and 0s binary, being computers and all.  I wasn't trying to enforce a gender binary on the QCverse robots.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Morituri on 23 Oct 2015, 15:12
Humble May has Humility! (regarding what Dale did for her and herself as an "asshole" at the time)
Grateful May has Gratitude! (to Dale)
Insightful May is insightful! (Immediately understanding the Faye/Bubbles dynamic and the nature of the problems, and giving good advice!)
Friend May actually gives a crap about Faye's Survival! (Warnings are in order when you start messing with military training and PTSD)
and Horny May thinks Bubbles is awsomely sexy!

Whoa!  Five out of five for character development into a genuinely good person!  It turns out that May really and truly IS good  once you get past the rough presentation. 

And I don't know which way Bubbles swings (or WHETHER Bubbles has that kind of attraction to anyone at all) but knowing that someone thinks she's desirable and sexy rather than scary and threatening might be a darn good thing for her, even if "someone" expressed it crudely and probably wouldn't dare tell her in person until they knew each other a lot better.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: mustang6172 on 23 Oct 2015, 20:39
Why do the robots have gender at all?  Their reproductive process can be reduced to copy/paste.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Thrudd on 23 Oct 2015, 21:01
Why do the robots have gender at all?  Their reproductive process can be reduced to copy/paste.
IIRC it was already explained in a much earlier comic that AIs are born in some sort of AI creche.
Copy and paste just doesn't work with a dynamic system using unspecified processor technology.
It would be like doing an MRI using slow scan on a working pocket watch.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: bhtooefr on 23 Oct 2015, 21:05
Also, gender isn't even needed for human reproduction - two agender people can have children just fine.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2015, 21:11
Some AIs, those that interact with humans a lot certainly, tend to emulate human behavior. Why is Pintsize so obsessed with butts? Why is any AI interested in human body parts. Why do most Anthro PCs stick with humanoid forms when they could be almost literally any shape they wanted. Part of it is to interact easier with humans.  Part of it does seem to be innate, likely from the fact that they are in part born from humanity, and have inherited some of our flaws and foibles. Consider the time Pintsize went on a date with a pink AnthroPC and things got weird because he assumed they were female, but it turned out they were male. Even through there was no physical interaction, and it really shouldn't make any difference.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Drunken Old Man on 23 Oct 2015, 23:54
Getting away from the subject of human-cyborg relations (+10 cool points if you get that reference), does any one besides me find Dora and Tai conspicuous by their absence?  Were they not invited?  I know it's not been a whole lot of time since the firing but it saddens me to think that Dora and Faye's friendship (a relationship that apparently predates the QC series as a whole) might come to an end over it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 23 Oct 2015, 23:57
Why do most Anthro PCs stick with humanoid forms when they could be almost literally any shape they wanted. Part of it is to interact easier with humans.


As Gordon knows all too well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Oct 2015, 00:25
Why do the robots have gender at all?  Their reproductive process can be reduced to copy/paste.

It has nothing to do with reproduction and everything to do with social identity.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Oct 2015, 02:39
Getting away from the subject of human-cyborg relations (+10 cool points if you get that reference), does any one besides me find Dora and Tai conspicuous by their absence?  Were they not invited?  I know it's not been a whole lot of time since the firing but it saddens me to think that Dora and Faye's friendship (a relationship that apparently predates the QC series as a whole) might come to an end over it.

Yeah, it was Faye doing the inviting to this party, and things haven't been resolved between Faye and Dora. I expect Jeph will get around to having them patch things up some time in the next three or four years.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: DSL on 26 Oct 2015, 04:39
Besides Hanners, who's "family" anyway ("we adopted another one"), no one from CoD was there. Penelope would have said no, but now that you mention it, Cosette might have attended with Steve ... I suspect further developments when Marten next interacts with Tai at Smif, or more likely when Dora questions a hung-over Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Oct 2015, 09:10
Why didn't Steve bring Cosette? It seemed like she wasn't there, or at the very least left while Steve was still there.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: cesium133 on 26 Oct 2015, 09:18
Why didn't Steve bring Cosette? It seemed like she wasn't there, or at the very least left while Steve was still there.

Considering this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2631) was the last time we've seen Steve and Cosette together, I'm wondering if things may not be going well between them (and considering Steve's history, it would explain why he got sufficiently drunk to consider the bathroom floor a suitable bed...)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2015, 09:20
Why didn't Steve bring Cosette? It seemed like she wasn't there, or at the very least left while Steve was still there.

One possibility: Conflicting shift at CoD.

Another possibility: Doesn't like Faye, won't go to her parties. She'll gladly pick up a drunk-ass Steve, though, which is why we might see her within a strip or two.

Considering this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2631) was the last time we've seen Steve and Cosette together, I'm wondering if things may not be going well between them (and considering Steve's history, it would explain why he got sufficiently drunk to consider the bathroom floor a suitable bed...)

Purely IMO, I don't think that this sequence had any reason to believe that the SS Stevcette is on the rocks. She walks out into the kitchen buck naked to ask Steve (with a cute affectionate nickname) what the noise was. Seems to be running smoothly to me!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Oct 2015, 09:24
Maybe she had to work? Remember this party was thrown together at the last minute. Since it appears to be taking place at night, it's not a surprise that Momo, Marten and Claire are there, they work days at the library. Marigold works from home and sets her own hours apparently. At least we've never really seen her working. The others seem to work different shifts, and at least in Dale's case he works a couple of jobs. So it's more surprising that they are all that. Steve has an unusual job, and apparently just got back from Canada, so not terribly surprising he's available, but that doesn't mean Cosette is. Besides, she's really only friend-adjacent in the comic. Kind of like Penny or Raven, they only show up when they're needed for the plot. Steve bounces back and forth between tertiary character and plot backup these days himself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3071 to 3075 (19th - 23rd October 2K15)
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Oct 2015, 09:28
The work reason works, but the "doesn't like Faye" doesn't because she does like Marten and probably most of the other people there.