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Title: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Jun 2016, 12:37
A nice, easy one; which is your favourite of all the significantly-used locations in Questionable Content?

To me, I think that it has to be Coffee of Doom, which was in many ways the social centre of the strips for the vast majority of its run (from around strip 600 up until around strip 3000). There was lots of significant action there (and it still has a role to play up until today).

As for this week, I have a feeling that we're going to keep following Brun and Renee for a while but it is possible that Jeph may decide to take us in a new direction for a while.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Oenone on 19 Jun 2016, 19:16
I wonder if Brun and Bubbles served together?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 19 Jun 2016, 20:14
I voted CoD, but was expecting the space station to win this poll. Wow.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Jun 2016, 20:21
Space Station was awesome, that was the arc that got me reading QC on a daily basis, but we've just had so many more awesome comics at CoD. Just by value of being the more common setting, it's the most memorable.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Storel on 19 Jun 2016, 21:09
I almost voted for Marten and Faye's apartment, so I'm surprised that hasn't gotten any votes yet.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jun 2016, 21:12
COMIC!!

But if Faye and Bubbles run into them on the way, all bets are off.

Along with their heads.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Jun 2016, 21:18
Faye and Bubbles are going to Coffee of Doom, which is the only solid link Renee would have to locating Clinton. I'm kind of expecting a meeting. If not immediately, in the near future. We spent a full week with Brun and Renee, I'd be surprised if they proceeded to not meet up with the larger cast, and if they did, Coffee of Doom is where it would happen.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 19 Jun 2016, 21:33
COMIC!!

But if Faye and Bubbles run into them on the way, all bets are off.

Along with their heads.

Let Faye handle them.  With Bubbles it would be over too quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 19 Jun 2016, 21:51
Bubbles has chosen... wisely.

PTSD: Because the right thing to do and the hardest thing to do are a venn diagram composing of a single circle, at times.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Akima on 19 Jun 2016, 22:05
Faye reveals once again (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1476) that she's thought altogether too much about the tidy disposal of bodies.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 19 Jun 2016, 22:16
Hogs will eat anything. 

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Jun 2016, 22:19
Is it just me, or did Jeph get the equivalent of whole paragraphs worth of exposition out of a single picture of a robot's facial expression in the first panel?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 19 Jun 2016, 22:28
On a side note, I always find the expression "You wanna come with?" to be strangely amusing yet just slightly appealing. Is that unique to the USA? That's the only place I recall coming across it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: anahata on 19 Jun 2016, 23:25
The Germans say it in a similar way, I think: "Kommst du mit?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Jun 2016, 23:36
Faye, please don't give the nice combat AI with self-esteem issues ideas, please?

Seriously, though, panels 2 and 3 really do tell their own story, don't they? All of Breference for him. fears, insecurities and her instinct to hide were displayed with impressive narrative economy. Then were reminded in the next panel that confronting them is an expression of courage equal to any she needed to show in battle. Yet she has that courage and, for her new friends, she's willing to show it as well as face her legion of ghosts.

Faye and Bubbles are going to Coffee of Doom, which is the only solid link Renee would have to locating Clinton. I'm kind of expecting a meeting. If not immediately, in the near future. We spent a full week with Brun and Renee, I'd be surprised if they proceeded to not meet up with the larger cast, and if they did, Coffee of Doom is where it would happen.

Yeah, there is the possibility of a few weeks at CoD as two or more plot-lines interact.

What other plot-lines? Well, as an example, Claire might come in to apologize to Emily for putting her on the spot with Clinton. Brun may then ask Emily for a character reference. This may draw in Claire and Renee. I wonder if Clinton will arrive in time to help Marten pull a foaming-at-the-mouth Claire off of Renee after a discussion about his character gets a bit... er... emphatic?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Jun 2016, 00:33
Faye reveals once again (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1476) that she's thought altogether too much about the tidy disposal of bodies.

More than Jeph himself perhaps - his suggestion of putting the head and body in different ponds would surely increase, if not quite double, the chance of the act being discovered!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Jun 2016, 01:15
However, it also prevents them from just putting their head back on and walking away; it's the sort of contingency an AI would think of, after all!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: oeoek on 20 Jun 2016, 01:15
Don't litter the Froglord pond with dead bodies!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 20 Jun 2016, 01:54
The Germans say it in a similar way, I think: "Kommst du mit?"

That might be where we get it from. America was settled quite heavily by Germans, but elected to forget in the late 30s and early 40s.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Welu on 20 Jun 2016, 05:38
On a side note, I always find the expression "You wanna come with?" to be strangely amusing yet just slightly appealing. Is that unique to the USA? That's the only place I recall coming across it.

I hear and say it here in Northern Ireland. Never caught my attention as odd.

More than Jeph himself perhaps - his suggestion of putting the head and body in different ponds would surely increase, if not quite double, the chance of the act being discovered!

I don't think it's to avoid being discovered as much as intentionally provoking the, "What is the motivation?" analysis.

~~~~
I really like Bubbles' stance in the third panel. I'm feeling very proud of her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: gopher on 20 Jun 2016, 08:20
Hogs will eat anything. 

Just sayin'.

Except teeth. Remove them with pliers first.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: KOK on 20 Jun 2016, 10:38
On a side note, I always find the expression "You wanna come with?" to be strangely amusing yet just slightly appealing. Is that unique to the USA? That's the only place I recall coming across it.

It is funny that while the Danish word "med" means the exact same thing as the English word "with", just about none of the idioms using it translate word by word. E.g. "vil du med?" "want you with?" or in better English "do you want with?". Similar "shall I take something with for you?" or "do you want something with?", "I'm just with",  "with home" or "take with" ( = to go).

I just realised that I do not know how to say "I'm just with" in English. That is, I am not here to buy something, I am accompanying one who is.

Anyway "You wanna come with?" is mostly used in areas with Scandinavian influence. Or German, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: KOK on 20 Jun 2016, 10:41
I don't think that Bubbles appreciates that kind of humor. Though she does recognize it for it is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: miados on 20 Jun 2016, 11:13
Faye reveals once again (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1476) that she's thought altogether too much about the tidy disposal of bodies.

ive done a lot of research on and off about the rate or decomposition and the tell tale signs of it plus if things are likely to kill someone or not. I mean its for stories, but i could only imagine if someone looked at my search history. my most recent one was how much of a giant icicle would melt due to body heat if it impales someone when it falls
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: JimC on 20 Jun 2016, 11:38
Here is southern england "you wanna come?" or "Coming with me?" would be most likely, never heard  "come with" bare, "want to come with me?" would be more formal. "I'm just with him" would be pretty universal I think.

Don't think I've ever heard the pronoun dropped and preposition retained like that. In south east english I don't think its at all common for the pronoun to be dropped without the preposition going too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Jun 2016, 12:19
Here is southern England "you wanna come?" or "Coming with me?" would be most likely,

I'd say: "You coming?" or "Wanna come?" depending on the listener.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: improvnerd on 20 Jun 2016, 13:56
I just realised that I do not know how to say "I'm just with" in English. That is, I am not here to buy something, I am accompanying one who is.

I'd say "I'm with him/her." No "just" required.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: freeman on 20 Jun 2016, 14:51
The third panel could be shooped so easily into something naughty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2016, 14:53
I guess Faye prefers ponds to quarries now?
The third panel could be shooped so easily into something naughty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: freeman on 20 Jun 2016, 14:57
I guess Faye prefers ponds to quarries now?
The third panel could be shooped so easily into something naughty.

Ah, wrong thread /__\. Shouldn't keep more than one open at a time. This was about Alice Grove.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2016, 15:11
Well considering the third panel here is just Bubbles looking sad, I'd hope it was the wrong thread :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Storel on 20 Jun 2016, 15:54
I guess Faye prefers ponds to quarries now?

It's a seasonal thing. Apparently it's almost wintertime where they are. If you throw a body in a pond just before it snows, the pond will freeze over and nobody will find the body until the spring thaw a few months later.

I think Faye is just open to all sorts of ways to ditch bodies. She wasn't particularly impressed by the "overhyped" rock quarry (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1476), so it makes sense that she's been exploring alternatives.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: heyjames4 on 20 Jun 2016, 16:18
I really like the art today. Bubbles faces and postures tell the whole story. It's almost better without dialogue.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Jun 2016, 20:16
Comic!

Yes, Hannelore is very powerful indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 20 Jun 2016, 20:53
 And cuter than ever. Hair floofiness factor = 10100.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: dreed on 20 Jun 2016, 21:08
Judging from how bubbles reacts to Hanners I don't think she is aware who Hanners is.  I do wonder if there is going to be any drama when Bubbles finds out
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Jun 2016, 21:36
There's no really good reason to think this, but what if every AI using Ellicott-Chatham technology has a motivational imperative to be good to Hannelore?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 20 Jun 2016, 21:43
It's the floof.  No one can be mad when confronted with the FLOOF.

Claire could also harness this power, except that she nearly always has her hair tied back.

ETA: Also, Hanners gets to call her Miss Bubbles too!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 20 Jun 2016, 21:52
Bubbles has just discovered the difference between someone who makes a big show of something in order to be mean-spirited or patronizing, and someone who does something nice for a friend. 

Hannelore uses FRIENDSHIP on BUBBLES.  It is Super Effective!

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Near Lurker on 20 Jun 2016, 21:55
Now that Hannelore is growing her hair out again, I wonder if she'll end up styling it like she did in her first few appearances?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2016, 22:22
What is this "MACCHIATO: NO" nonsense?  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Jun 2016, 22:53
What is this "MACCHIATO: NO" nonsense?  :-o

I'd assume it's an inferior form of caffeination?

I wouldn't know, I drink my coffee dark, strong, and slightly sweet. Had a cappucino once, had to throw it out galfway therough because I couldn't stand that amount of cream.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 20 Jun 2016, 22:53
There's a very simple explanation.

Hannelore has a black belt in anxiety judo. Much like conventional judo allows you to use your opponent's weight against them, Hannelore can convert a gesture that would cause someone to feel singled out and different and, with just a twist of her smile, turn it into a gesture that makes them feel special and wanted.

It's a less conventional training than most monks receive, but ultimately similar. Instead of a mountain hermitage she got isolation on a space station (also the name of my new Punk Folk band) and instead of years of intense meditation she got years of intense medication.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2016, 22:56
What is this "MACCHIATO: NO" nonsense?  :-o

I'd assume it's an inferior form of caffeination?

I wouldn't know, I drink my coffee dark, strong, and slightly sweet. Had a cappucino once, had to throw it out galfway therough because I couldn't stand that amount of cream.

It's an espresso with a smear of (foamed) milk on top. It's (IMO) the best way to add slight sweetness to an espresso without adding sugar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 20 Jun 2016, 23:13
Still prefer it black. Couple drops of milk, maybe. Cream gives too much outside flavor.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2016, 23:22
Cream in coffee is rare in Australia AFAIK. Macchiato demands milk, not cream.

And when I say smear, I really do mean the smallest amount. I've come across places that add too much milk to a macchiato, turning it into a piccolo latte. I don't mind that, as long as that's what I actually wanted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Jun 2016, 23:31
That's the thing about Hannelore: She's so earnest and sweet that you could never take anything she does as presumptuous or insulting. She's just too nice for that to be plausible!

As for poor Bubbles? Well, I'm sure that she's feeling a bit disoriented right now. I doubt that she's been anyone's favourite anything since she was in the army! The thought of people making special allowances and special provisions out of warm good will is probably going to be quite difficult to handle. If synthetics could break down and cry, I could see her doing so in a few minutes as Hannelore waits on her hand-and-foot.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2016, 23:37
Hannelore is good people*.

* Still on the topic of strangely endearing linguistic oddities.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Jun 2016, 23:40
I also really want to know what good advice costs if plain old advice (quality unstated) is $10!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2016, 23:42
If you need to ask...  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Jun 2016, 00:57
On a side note, I always find the expression "You wanna come with?" to be strangely amusing yet just slightly appealing. Is that unique to the USA? That's the only place I recall coming across it.

It is funny that while the Danish word "med" means the exact same thing as the English word "with", just about none of the idioms using it translate word by word. E.g. "vil du med?" "want you with?" or in better English "do you want with?". Similar "shall I take something with for you?" or "do you want something with?", "I'm just with",  "with home" or "take with" ( = to go).

I just realised that I do not know how to say "I'm just with" in English. That is, I am not here to buy something, I am accompanying one who is.

Anyway "You wanna come with?" is mostly used in areas with Scandinavian influence. Or German, I guess.
And then there's the famous tongue test "rød grød med fløde", literally "red porridge with cream".

I actually found a recipe for it that I've been meaning to try.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 21 Jun 2016, 01:09
Faye reveals once again (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1476) that she's thought altogether too much about the tidy disposal of bodies.

ive done a lot of research on and off about the rate or decomposition and the tell tale signs of it plus if things are likely to kill someone or not. I mean its for stories, but i could only imagine if someone looked at my search history. my most recent one was how much of a giant icicle would melt due to body heat if it impales someone when it falls

Startpage.com doesn't record metadata and allows you to visit pages anonymously (thus circumventing metadata from being recorded). At least according to the Corbett Report (not Colbert, Corbett) and their own information.

There's also the Ghostery add-on for Firefox and Chrome which blocks third-party web crawlers. You can customize which ones you want to block and which you want to allow. Though, you will want to go through the list for social media, as stuff like tumblr's buttons and dashboard happen to be listed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 21 Jun 2016, 01:26
This is some immense Hannerfloof.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jun 2016, 01:49
Yet not as great as the Clairefloof, even after The Great Shearing.

I'm hoping that we'll see Bubbles fully smile for the first time in this arc.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: KOK on 21 Jun 2016, 01:54
If synthetics could break down and cry, I could see her doing so in a few minutes as Hannelore waits on her hand-and-foot.

We have seen Momo cry.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 21 Jun 2016, 02:30
All hail the overlord of robots...Hannelore
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 21 Jun 2016, 03:43
I have to wonder how much of a repeat customer Bubbles is since that chair looks expensive, but then again Hannrlore has resources.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: heyjames4 on 21 Jun 2016, 03:51
Hanners and the bubble chair. I was not expecting that, yet it fits the characters and the foreshadowing. I love being surprised like that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: ThePerilsOfDan on 21 Jun 2016, 04:30
the Hannelore adorability factor is going off the scale here.  I am so smitten it's embarrassing
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Akima on 21 Jun 2016, 06:07
"Oh no! Not the Comfy Chair!"

Hanners is everyone's favourite Space Princess.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 21 Jun 2016, 06:30
DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Jun 2016, 08:15
All hail the overlord of robots...Hannelore

Technically she's the heiress to the Overlord of AI and robotics.

But back to the comic, I really do like confident and assertive Hanners, working at CoD has done her a world of good.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: heyjames4 on 21 Jun 2016, 09:21
If Mr. Elicot is the God of AI, then Hannelore is an Angel. The Maker's first attempt at creation, with a different set of flaws and strengths. A sister of sorts, but forever apart.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 21 Jun 2016, 09:39
I also really want to know what good advice costs if plain old advice (quality unstated) is $10!

My dad used to tell us that experience is the best teacher -- but then he'd remind us we probably can't afford the very best, and give us advice anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jun 2016, 09:41
If Mr. Elicot is the God of AI, then Hannelore is an Angel. The Maker's first attempt at creation, with a different set of flaws and strengths. A sister of sorts, but forever apart.

I've long thought that Hannelore might have some special spiritual significance to the AIs - The Firstborn Daughter of The Creator - and that some of the more religiously-minded of them (Momo has mentioned them) might revere her in some ways. Jeph has intimated that May might share in these beliefs on some level. This could be a reason why Hanners has such a non-existent public profile; she wants to avoid the attention of her fanbots.

I'm pretty sure that for Hannelore it is just a matter of being nice to people, something which she always tries to do. That said, it would be heart-warming in some way if she were to express a sense of kinship toward Elicott-Chatham AIs as being sort of distaff siblings.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 21 Jun 2016, 10:58
Are you sure you mean distaff? I'm not certain what cloth-weaving has to do with AI, unless you count the Jacquard Loom as the first industrial robot…
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Storel on 21 Jun 2016, 11:05
I think BenRG may have misinterpreted the expression "on the distaff side (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/distaff-side)".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TRenn on 21 Jun 2016, 13:00
If synthetics could break down and cry, I could see her doing so in a few minutes as Hannelore waits on her hand-and-foot.

We have seen Momo cry.

Momo's current chassis is meant to be very human friendly, and can express a full emotional range. Bubbles' chassis is meant for combat, and expressing emotions was probably not on the list of priorities. Especially tears. Even assuming her ocular sensors require lubrication, it might not be quite so liquid as human tears.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 21 Jun 2016, 15:07
I think BenRG may have misinterpreted the expression "on the distaff side (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/distaff-side)".

C'mon, respect BenRG's headcanon.   :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jun 2016, 15:11
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Jun 2016, 15:43
Don't fight it Bubbles, your one of the Clan now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 21 Jun 2016, 15:52
I also really want to know what good advice costs if plain old advice (quality unstated) is $10!

My dad used to tell us that experience is the best teacher -- but then he'd remind us we probably can't afford the very best, and give us advice anyway.

I don't know. The best advice my mother ever gave me was simple: don't do anything I wouldn't do and only half of what I would...

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 21 Jun 2016, 16:01
Yet not as great as the Clairefloof, even after The Great Shearing.

I'm hoping that we'll see Bubbles fully smile for the first time in this arc.

I'm hoping to see a floof-off between them at some point. The casulties will be catastrophic. And fuzzy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 21 Jun 2016, 16:27
I'm hoping to see a floof-off between them at some point. The casualties [sp] will be catastrophic. And fuzzy.
The two floofs would entangle and only some eldritch mathematical application of string theory would be able to save everyone from the cosmic entanglement...... or a flamethrower.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: JimC on 21 Jun 2016, 16:39
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.
Which leads us to the interesting(?) philosophical consideration - at what point does a persistent incorrect usage of a phrase become correct usage?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 21 Jun 2016, 16:57
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.
Which leads us to the interesting(?) philosophical consideration - at what point does a persistent incorrect usage of a phrase become correct usage?

When the people who don't know it's incorrect outnumber the people who do know, irregardless :mrgreen: of how many times they are told it's incorrect.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Jun 2016, 19:43
You no, you should really be more serious about language. You shouldn't just take it for granite.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 21 Jun 2016, 19:52
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.

Okay, Humpty Dumpty. There's glory for you, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Jun 2016, 20:55
BARRY LIVES
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Jun 2016, 21:06
And Barry didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning. He didn't start that fire. No, he didn't light it but he did try to fight it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Magniras on 21 Jun 2016, 21:11
BARRY LIVES

BARRY IS ETERNAL!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 21 Jun 2016, 21:15
Bubbles' perplexity at being treated so nicely is something to behold.

As is Faye's reaction.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 21 Jun 2016, 21:46
Barry!  Dora, be welcoming to Barry, he's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Storel on 21 Jun 2016, 21:54
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.

Interesting. I've never seen it used that way. Then again, I don't think I've ever seen it used outside of fairly old writings (back when people knew what the expression really meant! :evil:).

And yes, Barry survived the fire. Not really a surprise, as I think we'd have heard before now if anyone died. Pity he had to show up at CoD...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Jun 2016, 21:57
Of course he went to CoD; his favorite bar burned down. Perhaps Dora will need to hire Brun to wrangle Barry into submission. Hopefully no shotguns (imaginary or real) will be necessary.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Dust on 21 Jun 2016, 21:59
DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER

DIABOLICAL ACTING


Barry sensed a location change, and decided he wasn't done scene-stealing. His hat makes a fair point, I must say.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Jun 2016, 22:04
Dogs would vote for better candidates than humans would. OOH HE THREW THE BALL VOTE FOR HIM!

Unless, of course, feces-smeared ballots count for Trump.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jun 2016, 23:34
Y'know, I'm genuinely surprised at the fact that anyone was even slightly worried about Barry's safety. I mean, since when does Jeph spend effort on creating a bizarre character only to stop using them after one scene?

Faye... how best to put this...? This is healthy for Dora. The old Co Datmosphere was a product of her sense of alienation and persecution. She is moving away from those neuroses and so is the shop. She just doesn't have that anger anymore and you have to admit that she's more healthy for that! Positivity helps more than negativity, as you've learned through your time with Bubbles!

Actually, you can't help but wonder if Faye's own anger reinforced Dora's as well as encouraged her negative perception of the world. Faye's absence may have contributed to Dora's progress. I hope that Faye considers this and asks hherself if changes on her own part are necessary, for her own sake.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Jun 2016, 00:25
literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.

But it didn't really - it was (or should have been) indicating the origin of the (possibly implied) half-sibling.  So it's easy to see how the confusion could have arisen in your mind.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Shjade on 22 Jun 2016, 00:51
I'd just like to briefly interrupt this conversation on linguistics and floof AI worship to note that I'm really digging Dora's current hairstyle.

She just looks so...relaxed. Which seems like a great thing for her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: ZoeB on 22 Jun 2016, 01:20
Bubbles' perplexity at being treated so nicely is something to behold.

When I saw that particular panel, I was reminded of an incident some 10 years ago, at Chonburi, Thailand.
I was being treated much like Bubbles. "Here's your tea, Miss TimTam".

(Long story involving industrial quantities of TimTams I'd brought for the nurses at the clinic).

My reaction was similar.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RX1kCTDHtt8/Rq7actHmSRI/AAAAAAAAADg/yMTIS1pMzwQ/s1600/456166427_21764b55e4_m.jpg)

Hanners is a nice person.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 22 Jun 2016, 03:27
Y'know, I'm genuinely surprised at the fact that anyone was even slightly worried about Barry's safety. I mean, since when does Jeph spend effort on creating a bizarre character only to stop using them after one scene?

Faye... how best to put this...? This is healthy for Dora. The old Co Datmosphere was a product of her sense of alienation and persecution. She is moving away from those neuroses and so is the shop. She just doesn't have that anger anymore and you have to admit that she's more healthy for that! Positivity helps more than negativity, as you've learned through your time with Bubbles!

Actually, you can't help but wonder if Faye's own anger reinforced Dora's as well as encouraged her negative perception of the world. Faye's absence may have contributed to Dora's progress. I hope that Faye considers this and asks hherself if changes on her own part are necessary, for her own sake.

That would explain how COD lasted under the previous management for as long as it did.  It's amazing it didn't go out of business and if the place is more profitable than ever that would reinforce the direction.  While I can understand hostility to some customers who deserved it there were also a lot of people who didn't and probably never returned.  Faye is better in her new line of work than she ever was behind the counter. 

As for Barry he might be a little too much too handle, but considering how accommodating they are to people with various neuroses they should still give him a chance...  but nothing too caffeinated. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 22 Jun 2016, 04:48
Barry is...interesting. Weird until he can recite every Hemingway book by memory. Hemingway rocks

The snarkiness is what gave CoD its charm. Otherwise is just a coffeehouse. Although Dora seems alot calmer. Here is to hope that Dora and Martin restart on a positive slate. They compliment each other. Martin is finally growing a spine. Sort of.

Faye looks, i am not sure...off. I can't place it. I think its the weird hairdo. The drawing style for her changed quite a bit since the firing arc.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Scarblac on 22 Jun 2016, 04:57
On a side note, I always find the expression "You wanna come with?" to be strangely amusing yet just slightly appealing. Is that unique to the USA? That's the only place I recall coming across it.

It is funny that while the Danish word "med" means the exact same thing as the English word "with", just about none of the idioms using it translate word by word. E.g. "vil du med?" "want you with?" or in better English "do you want with?". Similar "shall I take something with for you?" or "do you want something with?", "I'm just with",  "with home" or "take with" ( = to go).

I just realised that I do not know how to say "I'm just with" in English. That is, I am not here to buy something, I am accompanying one who is.

Anyway "You wanna come with?" is mostly used in areas with Scandinavian influence. Or German, I guess.
Or Dutch.

Anything that Scandinavians, Germans and Dutch share is obviously old Germanic and probably once existed in English as well, but at some point they surrendered to those French guys and imported most of Latin into their language. That gave them "accompany"... Where the word "with" comes from is unclear to me, it doesn't sound like it's related to either 'med/mit/mee' or 'avec', not even to 'cum'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: snubnose on 22 Jun 2016, 05:40
I'm surprised about everyone who did not vote "Space Station" in THIS poll.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: JimC on 22 Jun 2016, 06:14
I'm surprised about everyone who did not vote "Space Station" in THIS poll.
Yes and no. I think its a great location, but only because there's very little time there. I have a suspicion that if it were a regular scene it would get a bit tedious.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Jun 2016, 07:02
Please note that I posted 'sort of...' Besides, literally every previous occasion I've seen it used, it meant step-sibling or illegitimate sibling.
Ya learn something new everyday.

I've only ever encountered it on TV Tropes. Specifically in regards to the distaff counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DistaffCounterpart) (I sincerely apologize for however much time you all lose to clicking thru TVtropes).

(Fixed the link -Method)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Jun 2016, 07:06
I'm hoping to see a floof-off between them at some point. The casualties [sp] will be catastrophic. And fuzzy.
The two floofs would entangle and only some eldritch mathematical application of string theory would be able to save everyone from the cosmic entanglement...... or a flamethrower.

Ms. Azuma could very probably help out with that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 22 Jun 2016, 09:35

(Long story involving industrial quantities of TimTams I'd brought for the nurses at the clinic).


Real Australian TimTams are the best choccie bikkies ever. You deserve their undying worship.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 22 Jun 2016, 09:41
Where the word "with" comes from is unclear to me, it doesn't sound like it's related to either 'med/mit/mee' or 'avec', not even to 'cum'.

Quote from OED:
OE. wið = OFris. with, OS. wið, ON. við (Sw. vid, Da. ved): app. a shortening (peculiar to the Anglo-Frisian and Scandinavian areas) of the Com. Teut. *wider- (see s.v. wither a. and adv. and wither-1), perh. taking place orig. in compounds (cf. with- and the parallelism of OE. wiþcéosan and wiþercéosan to reject, wiþstandan and wiþerstandan to withstand, etc.).

Maybe someone understands that  . . .
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 22 Jun 2016, 09:45
So, essentially, Clinton's quick thinking (and relative sobriety) allowed him to herd everyone out of "The Burning Bar" (we never did hear the name, just that it was near the bus station).

Glad some of the denizens are reappearing though. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: drmike on 22 Jun 2016, 09:54
Barry's gonna get a spin off, isn't he?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 22 Jun 2016, 10:00
Barry's gonna get a spin off, isn't he?
I'd like to see Alice Grove dealing with him.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Jun 2016, 11:21
Barry's gonna get a spin off, isn't he?
I'd like to see Alice Grove dealing with him.

Already happened. (http://www.alicegrove.com/post/131123839624/crazy-nolan-was-never-the-same-after-that-mule)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 22 Jun 2016, 11:45
Barry's gonna get a spin off, isn't he?
I'd like to see Alice Grove dealing with him.

Already happened. (http://www.alicegrove.com/post/131123839624/crazy-nolan-was-never-the-same-after-that-mule)

He doesn't look too bad for someone over 5000 years old. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: KOK on 22 Jun 2016, 11:52

Quote from OED:
OE. wið = OFris. with, OS. wið, ON. við (Sw. vid, Da. ved): app. a shortening (peculiar to the Anglo-Frisian and Scandinavian areas) of the Com. Teut. *wider- (see s.v. wither a. and adv. and wither-1), perh. taking place orig. in compounds (cf. with- and the parallelism of OE. wiþcéosan and wiþercéosan to reject, wiþstandan and wiþerstandan to withstand, etc.).

Maybe someone understands that  . . .

Interesting. "Ved" in Danish means "by". Both close to, as in "by the house" or "by the city", and abstractly as in "by caution and constancy". But now we are getting very far from the topic of this forum.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Jun 2016, 11:58
It's interesting (to me anyway) that wall-eyes have become artist shorthand for "crazy".  Whenever you see a wall-eyed person in a comic, he (or she) is crazy.  It's a trope.

That particular affliction has affected NONE of the many crazy people I've known.   Uh, long story.  Won't go into it here.  But I've known a LOT of crazy people.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: KOK on 22 Jun 2016, 12:00

I'm pretty sure that for Hannelore it is just a matter of being nice to people, something which she always tries to do. That said, it would be heart-warming in some way if she were to express a sense of kinship toward Elicott-Chatham AIs as being sort of distaff siblings.

They would be sword-side siblings.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DSL on 22 Jun 2016, 13:03
It's interesting (to me anyway) that wall-eyes have become artist shorthand for "crazy".  Whenever you see a wall-eyed person in a comic, he (or she) is crazy.  It's a trope.

That particular affliction has affected NONE of the many crazy people I've known.   Uh, long story.  Won't go into it here.  But I've known a LOT of crazy people.

I think of it more as the still -picture version of the spinning googly eyes of animated cartoons.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Jun 2016, 13:10
Please tell me that shirt will eventually be for sale.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 22 Jun 2016, 13:11
Where the word "with" comes from is unclear to me, it doesn't sound like it's related to either 'med/mit/mee' or 'avec', not even to 'cum'.

Quote from OED:
OE. wið = OFris. with, OS. wið, ON. við (Sw. vid, Da. ved): app. a shortening (peculiar to the Anglo-Frisian and Scandinavian areas) of the Com. Teut. *wider- (see s.v. wither a. and adv. and wither-1), perh. taking place orig. in compounds (cf. with- and the parallelism of OE. wiþcéosan and wiþercéosan to reject, wiþstandan and wiþerstandan to withstand, etc.).

Maybe someone understands that  . . .

To translate from "linguist" to "English", in case someone is interested:

"ð" is the voiced form of "th" (so it's to "th" what "d" is to "t" or what "z" is to "s"). "þ" is the letter originally used for what became "th".

*wider- means that the form is reconstructed/guessed from later forms, that is - we don't know the original form, but that's our best approximation. Hence the asterisk. The form is parallel to the modern word "wither".

Originally, the word was possibly part of compounds, which is to say something made up of two combined words, but working as a single word (similar to "bathhouse" or "boytoy"). This can be compared to "with-" and the feature of Old English where various word structures using the same beginning were possible (by analogy or parallel to each other). The relevant examples from Old English are words like "wiþcéosan" (pronounced roughly "with-KE-osan") and "wiþercéosan" ("wither-KE-osan") meaning "reject", as well as "with-stand-an" and "wither-stand-an" meaning "withstand". Basically, it illustrates the use of the parallel "with/wither" as a beginning of multiple words.

As an additional comment, Old English had verbs that were conjugated (they had changing forms, mostly endings, depending on the role in the sentence), "-an" was the default, basic form that was replaced based on the rules of grammar. Modern English mostly dropped verb forms, unlike other Germanic languages.

DISCLAIMER: it's been almost a decade since I last used any of my linguistic knowledge for any reason and my knowledge is spotty, I might be getting some things horribly, terribly wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 22 Jun 2016, 14:46
Where the word "with" comes from is unclear to me, it doesn't sound like it's related to either 'med/mit/mee' or 'avec', not even to 'cum'.

Quote from OED:
OE. wið = OFris. with, OS. wið, ON. við (Sw. vid, Da. ved): app. a shortening (peculiar to the Anglo-Frisian and Scandinavian areas) of the Com. Teut. *wider- (see s.v. wither a. and adv. and wither-1), perh. taking place orig. in compounds (cf. with- and the parallelism of OE. wiþcéosan and wiþercéosan to reject, wiþstandan and wiþerstandan to withstand, etc.).

Maybe someone understands that  . . .

Here's a better one:

Quote
Old English wið "against, opposite, from, toward, by, near," a shortened form related to wiðer, from Proto-Germanic *withro- "against" (source also of Old Saxon withar "against," Old Norse viðr "against, with, toward, at," Middle Dutch, Dutch weder, Dutch weer "again," Gothic wiþra "against, opposite"), from PIE *wi-tero-, literally "more apart," suffixed form of root *wi- "separation" (source also of Sanskrit vi, Avestan vi- "asunder," Sanskrit vitaram "further, farther," Old Church Slavonic vutoru "other, second").

Sense shifted in Middle English to denote association, combination, and union, partly by influence of Old Norse vidh, and also perhaps by Latin cum "with" (as in pugnare cum "fight with"). In this sense, it replaced Old English mid "with," which survives only as a prefix (as in midwife). Original sense of "against, in opposition" is retained in compounds such as withhold, withdraw, withstand. Often treated as a conjunction by ungrammatical writers and used where and would be correct. First record of with child "pregnant" is recorded from c. 1200. With it "cool" is African-American vernacular, recorded by 1931. French avec "with" was originally avoc, from Vulgar Latin *abhoc, from apud hoc, literally "with this."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: mad hands murphy on 22 Jun 2016, 14:53
she should open a second shop next to COD called Coffee of Nice and let people pick their experience
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Jun 2016, 14:54
Yay for Barry

Maybe he was rescued by Dolphins  ;D



Who are you and what have you done with the real Dora?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Akima on 22 Jun 2016, 16:17
I learned "distaff" as simply a metaphor meaning "pertaining to women". The antonym is supposedly "spear", but you don't really hear that, because men are regarded as the standard, from which women have to be distinguished. Of course. :roll:  I've never heard the term "distaff sibling", but if I had, I'd have read it in the sense of all women being sisters.

You know, looking at that chair with Bubbles sitting in it, it has to be a custom job, made to fit her. Bubbles sitting is only slightly lower than Hanners, a tall woman, standing (though leaning forward slightly). Imagine how high the back of that chair must be.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jun 2016, 16:47
You know, looking at that chair with Bubbles sitting in it, it has to be a custom job, made to fit her. Bubbles sitting is only slightly lower than Hanners, a tall woman, standing (though leaning forward slightly). Imagine how high the back of that chair must be.

Possibly constructed in situ to save having to try to get it through the front door.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Jun 2016, 17:33
You know, looking at that chair with Bubbles sitting in it, it has to be a custom job, made to fit her. Bubbles sitting is only slightly lower than Hanners, a tall woman, standing (though leaning forward slightly). Imagine how high the back of that chair must be.

I'm a bit uncertain as to Bubbles' scale; she's well-proportioned but her size as drawn is indeterminate to me; she seems to vary between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 meters tall. 

The chair, though, is probably the same size as the one I'm sitting in right now.  I'm just over 2 meters tall, and at my heaviest (When I was weightlifting and also fat) I massed about 200 kilograms.  (These days I mass just over half that.)  But anyway, at my heaviest,  I got kinda sick of small and/or fragile furniture and started keeping an eye out.  You can find this kind of chair new, but they command high four and low five digit prices in USD.  I wasn't ready to spend that.  But a year later I also found three at an estate sale, and over the course of five years, another couple in thrift stores, where they had high two or low three-digit prices in USD.  Those I bought.

The arms on the sides (on all examples I've seen anyway) are detachable by pulling two levers inside; without the arms they fit through any ADA-compliant (36 inch / 92 cm) doorways.  They'd have no trouble getting it into any building that could be licensed for a coffee shop.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Jun 2016, 17:59
Thing is, COD is likely built in a very OLD building. Even here in Wisconsin, places like the coffee shop are buildings constructed over a century ago - though likely remodeled heavily since then.

In Massachusetts, a building like the one that houses COD may have been built in the early-to-mid-19th Century.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Jun 2016, 18:03
That being said, the front door of CoD looks like it's a modern width.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 22 Jun 2016, 18:31
It's interesting (to me anyway) that wall-eyes have become artist shorthand for "crazy".  Whenever you see a wall-eyed person in a comic, he (or she) is crazy.  It's a trope.

That particular affliction has affected NONE of the many crazy people I've known.   Uh, long story.  Won't go into it here.  But I've known a LOT of crazy people.

Knew a guy in high school who had that. Eventually he had surgery to fix it. He WAS crazy, but then so were all the rest of us.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Jun 2016, 19:21
Comic's up.
(click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Jun 2016, 19:25
Is it just me, or has Emily merged herself with Dora? The things she can do with her programming...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Jun 2016, 19:30
She's now the merger of Dora, Emily and Cosette. Doremette. (Cosdorily?)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 22 Jun 2016, 19:42
I think Jeph's building up to CoD becoming an important part of the local community, perhaps particularly for AIs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TRVA123 on 22 Jun 2016, 20:06
Dora's face is weirding me out. One Panel will read as classic Dora, the next panel Dora will have Emily's face. Then the next panel switches back.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DSL on 22 Jun 2016, 20:11
Man, they're growing up. Most of them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 22 Jun 2016, 20:12
I think Jeph's building up to CoD becoming an important part of the local community, perhaps particularly for AIs.

Didn't know they had that many AIs frequenting it unless Bubbles isn't the only one there to sniff tea. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Jun 2016, 20:26
Momo. Possibly May. Gary showed up at least once to get coffee for his boss. Enough show up that Hanners knew they liked the scent of tea and had blends they would enjoy on hand.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 22 Jun 2016, 20:28
Man, they're growing up. Most of them.

I think Faye's grown up a bunch. Which is why she wants that comfortable constant to come back to when everything else in her life has changed.

She is happier, healthier and friendlier than she was this time last canon year. I don't think wanting an anchor for all of it is a sign of immaturity so much as humanity.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Hotel Papa on 22 Jun 2016, 20:35
"Raisin d' être". Really? Is that supposed to be Faye being sarcastic (doesn't really fit the sobriety of her sentiment), or i it a honest typo?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Jun 2016, 20:37
I see this more as Dora realising that insulting customers was not going to be useful in the long run. Dora's been running Coffee of Doom for how long? Back when she was still in a Goth phase I suppose. Despite what people might think, Dora has grown somewhat and has gotten to a point where she's realised that she's making her own environment toxic and in turn that toxicity is coming back to her. Plus I would imagine that in a town like that, self-owned coffee-shops like Coffee of Doom are niche, especially compared to massive franchises like Starbucks, its already difficult enough as it is.

Look at the coffee-shop itself, the colours itself present a place that is warm and welcoming. It just looks like Dora is finally catching up to the image of Coffee of Doom she's been presenting for the past few years.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DashaBlade on 22 Jun 2016, 20:38
I'm actually a bit surprised that Dora didn't offer to sass Faye as a customer service perk.

Faye: It's just not right! This is Coffee of Doom, I want coffee AND doom!
Dora: Well, since it's you, we'll throw in some doom for 50 cents.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 22 Jun 2016, 20:48
"Raisin d' être". Really? Is that supposed to be Faye being sarcastic (doesn't really fit the sobriety of her sentiment), or i it a honest typo?
Notice that she said "raisin d'entree", which looks to me like a deliberate error, along the lines of "much grass" for "muchas gracias".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Jun 2016, 20:55
I don't know French especially, but wouldn't that translate as 'Reason for dinner?" I'm just thinking, since the correct version would mean 'reason for entering,' or something to that effect.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Hotel Papa on 22 Jun 2016, 21:07
"Raisin d' être". Really? Is that supposed to be Faye being sarcastic (doesn't really fit the sobriety of her sentiment), or i it a honest typo?
Notice that she said "raisin d'entree", which looks to me like a deliberate error, along the lines of "much grass" for "muchas gracias".
I noticed that upon reading it a second time. Has it always been that and I misread it the first time, or has Jeph modified it to make the sarcasm more clear?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Hotel Papa on 22 Jun 2016, 21:11
I don't know French especially, but wouldn't that translate as 'Reason for dinner?" I'm just thinking, since the correct version would mean 'reason for entering,' or something to that effect.

the usual phrase "raison d'être" means "the reason for being", so the "justification for a thing existing"

humorous "raisin d'entree" is roughly "dried grape for a starter"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jun 2016, 21:15
In 2555 Dora says the building is a hundred years old.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jun 2016, 21:46
It is, in fact, "reason for entering."  As in reason for entering the cafe. :-D

Apologies to my USA friends, but entrée does not mean "dinner."

Edit: I think to be correct it should really be "raison pour entrer," but my French is very rusty. It's an amusing pun nonetheless.
Edit 2: Or maybe it really can be raison d'entrer. I give up and let someone with actual French knowledge step in.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Jun 2016, 21:48

Apologies to my USA friends, but entrée does not mean "dinner."

WHAT.

My life is a lie
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jun 2016, 21:52
Sorry.  :cry:

An entrée is more like a starter. I never understood the whole "entrée = main course" thing. If someone does know...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Sorflakne on 22 Jun 2016, 22:10
We call starters appetizers.  Or hors d'oeuvres (and they say English is messed up...).  I've also only ever heard entrée be used to describe the main course.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: mad hands murphy on 22 Jun 2016, 22:40
I hope this is leading to a storyline where a brash young up-and-comer with fire in her belly turns up on the scene to challenge Dora for the coffee crown.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Jun 2016, 22:41
"Raisin d' être". Really? Is that supposed to be Faye being sarcastic (doesn't really fit the sobriety of her sentiment), or i it a honest typo?

As Jeph's note says: "Faye is good at French"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DashaBlade on 22 Jun 2016, 22:45
Sorry.  :cry:

An entrée is more like a starter. I never understood the whole "entrée = main course" thing. If someone does know...

Maybe it dates to when restaurants used to have multi-course meals, as opposed to an appetizer and a main dish? And then it was scaled down until there was only the first (appetizer) and second (entree) course?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jun 2016, 23:03
That seems vaguely plausible.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Jun 2016, 23:34
Change is a difficult thing to handle, especially if you leave and come back some time later to find it has already happened! I'm sure that this situation wouldn't be so discombobulating for Faye if she'd been a regular and only experienced the changes incrementally. As it is, she's having to adapt to total change in one visit!

It looks like I was right yesterday to speculate that Dora did this for the sake of her mental health. I also suspect that Tai will turn out to be a factor - It's hard to be continually angry when your personal life has got so much happier!

Still, yeah; Faye's just learned that, after you leave for a long while, you can't come home again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 23 Jun 2016, 00:31
In English, entrée means "main course".  In French, entrée means "starter".  How this happened, probably the same way "pants" came to mean two very different items in American English and British English.  The French makes more sense: the course by which you enter the meal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: gopher on 23 Jun 2016, 00:46
"Tres good at French" is the better gag.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: TinPenguin on 23 Jun 2016, 00:48
I'm English, and I've never encountered entree except as a starter. Time to fall on etymonline again!

Quote
entree (n.)
    1724, "opening piece of an opera or ballet," from French entrée, from Old French entree (see entry). Cookery sense is from 1759; originally the dish which was introductory to the main course. Meaning "entry, freedom of access" is from 1762. The word had been borrowed in Middle English as entre "act of entering."

I like this thread.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Jun 2016, 01:00
The OED places the entrée neither as the starter nor the main course: "a dish served between the fish course and the main meat course at a formal dinner".  It also comments that in NA it is used for the main course of a meal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 23 Jun 2016, 01:39
FWIW, the Wikipedia page states that the word entrée originally meant the ceremonial "entrance" of dishes to the dining hall and came to denote a heavy meat course. It stays close to this early meaning in USA and parts of Canada, denoting the main dish; in modern times, it means "introductory dish" in France and the rest of the English-speaking world.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 01:42
In English, entrée means "main course".  In French, entrée means "starter".  How this happened, probably the same way "pants" came to mean two very different items in American English and British English.  The French makes more sense: the course by which you enter the meal.

Change your first mention of "English" to "American English". Otherwise yes.

In Australia, and also England I think, the meaning of the word agrees with the French.

Is this linguistic oddity* confined to American English? I suspect so.

Edit: Apparently also in parts of Canada.

* Yes, I like that phrase. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: blt on 23 Jun 2016, 01:53
Is "raison d'être" not a common English borrowed phrase in other parts of the world?  I hear and read it more often in English than I do in French here, usually by managers or reporters trying to be fancy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 01:59
Yes, it is a fairly common phrase, like a certain je ne sais pas and savoir faire.

It is "je ne sais quoi", but I am leaving it as a warning against the dangers of careless posting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 23 Jun 2016, 02:01
Yes, it is a fairly common phrase, like a certain je ne sais pas and savoir faire.

I thought it was, as a borrowed phrase in English, "a certain je ne sais quoi"?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 02:06
Don't mind me. Yes, it is.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 23 Jun 2016, 02:59
Sorry.  :cry:

An entrée is more like a starter. I never understood the whole "entrée = main course" thing. If someone does know...

See http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html (http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html) for a good run-down of the history of the word. It's more complex than you might think.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Jun 2016, 05:19
"Personne n'échappe à mon regard." is about the only French I hear these days...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: JimC on 23 Jun 2016, 07:02
See http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html (http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html) for a good run-down of the history of the word. It's more complex than you might think.
Interesting. Quite a bit of verbal gymnastics going on there to support the US usage to my mind though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 23 Jun 2016, 15:16
It would appear that the fell hand of change is coming to Coffee of Doom as Dora matures and settles down.

I wonder if Bubbles will become a fixture at CoD now she has her own very special chair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DSL on 23 Jun 2016, 15:25
See http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html (http://languageoffood.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html) for a good run-down of the history of the word. It's more complex than you might think.
Interesting. Quite a bit of verbal gymnastics going on there to support the US usage to my mind though.

Seems more to me like a change in the style of serving dinners, with the words not catching up -- thus "entree" stayed with "fancy meat dish" even though that dish took a new prominence and position in the meal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 23 Jun 2016, 17:53
"Personne n'échappe à mon regard." is about the only French I hear these days...
En quelle circonstance?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BlueFatima on 23 Jun 2016, 18:29
Aw, come on, Faye. These are *good* things!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 18:38
Faye's dislike of change hasn't changed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DSL on 23 Jun 2016, 19:22
Well, it changes things.

EDIT: Though as much change as Dora is exhibiting would be unsettling, up close and personal IRL.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 23 Jun 2016, 19:52
I wonder if Bubbles will become a fixture at CoD now she has her own very special chair.

If Bubbles ever decides to change chassis, the old one could actually *be* a fixture.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: mad hands murphy on 23 Jun 2016, 20:18
I used to feel the way Faye feels, except about indie rock comics turning into slice of life strips
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 23 Jun 2016, 20:22
Look.  Barry can get a spinoff but PLEASE do not depict the subject matter of his t-shirt.  That's all I ask, I think it's reasonable.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 23 Jun 2016, 21:01
Wonder if it ever occurred to Faye that the old CoD would be the kind of place that wouldn't be very welcoming to an AI who's working through some serious social issues.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Jun 2016, 21:10
Look.  Barry can get a spinoff but PLEASE do not depict the subject matter of his t-shirt.  That's all I ask, I think it's reasonable.
Sorry, no can do. Barry's a package deal. By that I mean, a dolphin package deal.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Jun 2016, 21:37
You no, you should really be more serious about language. You shouldn't just take it for granite.
There's at least 3 other Wapsi Square readers in these forums. How has the pun jar not become manifest here, as well?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Timemaster on 23 Jun 2016, 22:49
Good morning,

I´m waking up to Britain exitng the EU and Faye and Dora contemplating the pros and cons of change. Kinda appropriate.
Personaly I know change is inevitable but I tend to feel that the negative effects of change outnumber the positive ones.

But speaking of change, Jeph is experimenting with a lot of new facial expressions lately. Yesterday and today it´s very obvious, especially with Dora. In the last panel her smile reminds me of Dori from Finding Nemo.  :-D
That´s a kind of change I like. Although I think he hasn´t mastered all of those new expresions yet. But this certainly livens up the graphics of dialogue-heavy strips like today.

Also a nice bit of information: Faye is still dry. Go girl, you can make it! :-)

TM
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Jun 2016, 22:59
Ah, poor Faye! Still, that's the nature of kicking a habit; it's the associations that trigger the craving in the worst way. As Hanners suggested a long time ago, she should focus on her real priorities right now - Bubbles and handling the way the world has totally changed without her really noticing!

Personaly I know change is inevitable but I tend to feel that the negative effects of change outnumber the positive ones.

Negative outcomes always outweigh positive ones in the short-term. It takes a while to be able to judge the true result of a change (years, sometimes even decades in the political context). However, in this particular context, I think that time will persuade Faye that these changes are positive; that being happier and her friends being happier are worth the loss of the certainties of the familiar.

But speaking of change, Jeph is experimenting with a lot of new facial expressions lately. Yesterday and today it´s very obvious, especially with Dora.

Yeah; he's being working hard to grow his artistic style recently in lots of ways. There are going to be the occasional missed step or messed-up face or expression but that's inevitable as he learns new things and works out the kins. Overall, I've been finding Faye's elastic face and exaggerated expressions quite intriguing and Dora has looked more beautiful than ever.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 23 Jun 2016, 23:04
Dammit, that's one thought that Faye doesn't need considering her problems with alcahol.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Jun 2016, 23:11
I wonder if Bubbles will become a fixture at CoD now she has her own very special chair.

If Bubbles ever decides to change chassis, the old one could actually *be* a fixture.

Unless, of course, someone else wants to move into it. May, for example.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Jun 2016, 23:11
Where the word "with" comes from is unclear to me, it doesn't sound like it's related to either 'med/mit/mee' or 'avec', not even to 'cum'.

Quote from OED:
OE. wið = OFris. with, OS. wið, ON. við (Sw. vid, Da. ved): app. a shortening (peculiar to the Anglo-Frisian and Scandinavian areas) of the Com. Teut. *wider- (see s.v. wither a. and adv. and wither-1), perh. taking place orig. in compounds (cf. with- and the parallelism of OE. wiþcéosan and wiþercéosan to reject, wiþstandan and wiþerstandan to withstand, etc.).

Maybe someone understands that  . . .
Looks like I'm way late to this party, so here are the abbreviations

Abreviations
OE. Old English
OFris. Old Frisian
ON. the opposite of OFF Old Norse
Sw. Swedish
Da. Russian for 'yes' Danish
Com. Teut,. Common Teutonic
OS. Operating System Old Saxon
s.v. [couldn't find]
perh. perhaps
orig. originally
c.f. [couldn't find]


And as a bonus, here's what I got from the 1968 college edition of the 'Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language' (I collect old books).

with (with, with), preposition. [Middle English; Anglo-Saxon, origin, against; in opposition to; probably shortened < AS. wither, against; Indo-European base *wi-, asunder, separate, of which AS. wither, against (German wider) would represent the comparison (dual) form]

*hypothetical


Hopefully this doesn't get moved to Discuss
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 23:22
I think 'cf' means 'compare,' more or less.

sv... google-fu powers activate!

sv sub verbo, ‘under the word’
http://public.oed.com/how-to-use-the-oed/abbreviations/#s

cf.    confer, ‘compare’
http://public.oed.com/how-to-use-the-oed/abbreviations/#c

There ya go.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 23 Jun 2016, 23:42
Yes, it is a fairly common phrase, like a certain je ne sais pas and savoir faire.

It is "je ne sais quoi", but I am leaving it as a warning against the dangers of careless posting.

....... So for all the shit we Kansans get about "being backwards ⃰", we do a good job at getting French right???
I've only ever heard people say "je ne sais quoi" and I've seen 'entree' used correctly in restaurants (some not all).
The town of La Cygne is said "lă sēn" by the locals, and they say the name of the local landmark Marais de la Cygne "mə-rī dā lă sēn".


To be fair, we're not that great at Spanish. Salina (saw-LIE-nuh) and El Dorado (el doe-RAY-doe). But it's better than Colorado's La Junta (luh-huh-nuh).

 ⃰specifically for allowing 'intelligent design' to be brought up in public schools, and for the existence of the Westboro "Baptist" "Church". Some even joke it's why Pluto got demoted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Jun 2016, 23:47
I wonder if Bubbles will become a fixture at CoD now she has her own very special chair.

If Bubbles ever decides to change chassis, the old one could actually *be* a fixture.

Unless, of course, someone else wants to move into it. May, for example.

Actually, I could see May sitting in Bubbles' lap and looking around defiantly at everyone's surprised expressions.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2016, 23:49
Yes, it is a fairly common phrase, like a certain je ne sais pas and savoir faire.

It is "je ne sais quoi", but I am leaving it as a warning against the dangers of careless posting.

....... So for all the shit we Kansans get about "being backwards ⃰", we do a good job at getting French right???

Sheesh, sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 23 Jun 2016, 23:49
@TimeMaster

On the downside to the Brexit, the Australian dollar tanked three cents.

On the plus side, my Patreon is collected in USD! My country's loss is my personal gain!

... now I know how corporations feel.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 24 Jun 2016, 04:02
Yes, it is a fairly common phrase, like a certain je ne sais pas and savoir faire.

It is "je ne sais quoi", but I am leaving it as a warning against the dangers of careless posting.

....... So for all the shit we Kansans get about "being backwards ⃰", we do a good job at getting French right???

Sheesh, sorry.

Did a massive edit to my response. My apologies for it seeming curt.

I fumbled my phone and hit 'post' by mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 24 Jun 2016, 05:44
You no, you should really be more serious about language. You shouldn't just take it for granite.
There's at least 3 other Wapsi Square readers in these forums. How has the pun jar not become manifest here, as well?
It had, but then someone said to tip it after a pun, and one thing led to another and now there are coins all over the floor.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: drmike on 24 Jun 2016, 07:02
Look at the coffee-shop itself, the colours itself present a place that is warm and welcoming. It just looks like Dora is finally catching up to the image of Coffee of Doom she's been presenting for the past few years.

I don't know about others but red and mustard(?) are not very welcoming to me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: retrosteve on 24 Jun 2016, 08:19
Good God, Jeph, what's with the LIPS? Is it just me or have Dora's and Faye's lips grown to mutant mecha size? And begun to eat their faces...

Should I be afraid?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 24 Jun 2016, 11:29
Good God, Jeph, what's with the LIPS? Is it just me or have Dora's and Faye's lips grown to mutant mecha size? And begun to eat their faces...

Should I be afraid?

I noticed that too. I hope he is not having issues with his hand again.


People come to the CoD not for its welcoming atmosphere, people come to get a shot of insultesso. an espresso loaded with insults.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: brasca on 24 Jun 2016, 14:20
Look at the coffee-shop itself, the colours itself present a place that is warm and welcoming. It just looks like Dora is finally catching up to the image of Coffee of Doom she's been presenting for the past few years.

I don't know about others but red and mustard(?) are not very welcoming to me.

Those are McDonald's colors and they seem to do quite well for themselves. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Jun 2016, 14:55
How is mustard a color? Mustard comes in several colors!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Jun 2016, 17:30
Different shades of mustard.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: DSL on 24 Jun 2016, 18:30
I mustard mitt I like those colors.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 24 Jun 2016, 22:43
Different shades of mustard.  :mrgreen:

Fifty Shades of Grey Poupon
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Jun 2016, 12:32
Official Poll Results!

1. Coffee of Doom - 30 (38%)
2. The Space Station - 18 (22.8%)
3. Marten & Faye's Apartment - 10 (12.7%)
4. The Library - 6 (7.6%)
5.  The Horrible Revelation (the pub that Will works at) - 5 (6.3%)
6. Other - 3 (3.8%)
=7. Emily's Holiday House - 2 (2.5%)
=7. The Park where Emily got bitten by a snake (such pretty scenery) - 2 (2.5%) *
=9. The Park - 1 (1.3%)
=9. The Fighting Arena - 1 (1.3%)
=9. The Quarry - 1 (1.3%)
12. Sven's house - 0 (0%)

Perhaps it isn't surprising that Sven's house came bottom - the only really significant event to occur there is the Dorapocalypse; proof I think that some wounds run deep for the fandom. That said, I can't help but be puzzled by the fact that it scored worse than the Quarry, a hypothetical location that we've never actually seen in the strip!

* I don't think that the snake bite occurred in a park; I think that there are some wild woods near Northampton where Sam likes to go reptile and amphibian hunting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Storel on 26 Jun 2016, 20:16
"Raisin d' être". Really? Is that supposed to be Faye being sarcastic (doesn't really fit the sobriety of her sentiment), or i it a honest typo?
As Jeph's note says: "Faye is good at French"
I'm taking that as "Jeph knows better, but Faye doesn't."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Jun 2016, 22:36
I agree with what Bubbles is doing but can't explain how it's different from stalking. I mean, I know it is, but can't articulate why.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jul 2016, 09:29
...neither can I. I really want to, but I can't.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 02 Jul 2016, 10:13
Intent, perhaps?  Openness?  Bubbles hasn't followed Faye anywhere she'd reasonably expect to have privacy - public roads and a business that Bubbles doesn't seem to have entered.  Faye is aware that Bubbles is tagging along and has a general idea why.  Stalkers generally don't go up to the person they're stalking and say "Hey, I'm going with you as you go about your business because I'm worried about you."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: sitnspin on 02 Jul 2016, 12:35
Having been on the receiving end of stalking, intent, openness, and consent are the key factors in keeping it from being stalking. Bubbles has made her intentions and motivations clear and Faye has accepted. Also important is the previously established mutual friendship.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 02 Jul 2016, 12:57
Stalking is not nearly so much about what you do as it is about what kind of person you are being by doing it.  It's subtle. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3246-3250 (20-24th June 2016)
Post by: Redball on 03 Jul 2016, 06:13
Intent is the key. Bubbles is protecting Faye. Faye knows what she's doing is self-destructive.