This might be the first step towards Sam becoming that little bit more mature.I think that's where Jeph is heading. Messing any other character's maturity level will break the character, but at 12 Sam is supposed to be changing. Dynamic characters are always more interesting if also more difficult to write.
Actually, I'm bugged by Jeph's caricaturing what should be a normal twelve year old girl as a three year old idiot.
PS: With all the news these days about women being sexually exploited, I find it ironic that anyone would be hostile to someone pointing out how in a comic they mutually follow that one of the characters in that comic could also be a woman at risk.
One thing: "Fax me the invoice"? Does anyone still do that?
Will Faye and Bubbles be able to repair the accident prone Punchbot?
Comic!
Also, a robot using a fax machine!
A sentient robot using a fax machine
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Who am I kidding, I'm sure the same will eventually happen in our world, if we do get sentient AI
"But that's not what you're doing, is it? Instead, your switching between condemning the character of Sam and then practically dancing in the street at the prospect of her inevitable upcoming rape. The way you choose to express yourself is... somewhat disturbing."
With all respect, I think you've missed my point entirely.
She'll be lucky if her first rapist is an 8th grader. Unless someone teaches Sam some values, she'll likely have a succession of them.
I think XYs also need to be given discipline by the time they become sexually active. Frankly, neither whether the immature brat is an XX or an XY is the issue.
So what you are saying is that Sam is not simply a farcically over exuberant 12 year old but rather an obviously mentally deficient 14 year old child?
Sam's fourteen (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3161), not twelve.
Comic!
Also, a robot using a fax machine!
A sentient robot using a fax machine
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Who am I kidding, I'm sure the same will eventually happen in our world, if we do get sentient AI
I think XYs also need to be given discipline by the time they become sexually active. Frankly, neither whether the immature brat is an XX or an XY is the issue.
I'm wondering about what you mean by 'discipline'. I seriously hope you don't mean the type that is legally considered child abuse in my country.
Over the last few strips we've seen that Sam has the maturity of a three year old.
She breaks into homes, enters bedrooms, puts on masks and wakes people by screaming in their faces.
She is invited to a place of business and immediately tries to break business equipment and drive off potential customers.
However, eventually that twelve year old is going to get a bit older and start being ...
When Punchbot said "Fax me the invoice", I half expected Bubbles to go "Screeeeeeeeech Done."
But yeah, there are people who still insist on fax machines. Lawyers, for one. Don't know any accountants except ones who work for the government, and government (at all levels) also still relies heavily on fax machines. Some professions don't like cutting-edge technology. They like the edges on their tech to be as dull as possible.
But that's not what you're doing, is it? Instead, your switching between condemning the character of Sam and then practically dancing in the street at the prospect of her inevitable upcoming rape. The way you choose to express yourself is... somewhat disturbing.
About the current trend topic: looks like there is a need to discuss seeerious things in the forum. When the strips become plain silly for a while (let's remember QC started quite silly), some people tend to overthink. C'mon, folks, it's just comics! Let's not start a fight over it!
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Comic!
Also, a robot using a fax machine!
A sentient robot using a fax machine
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Who am I kidding, I'm sure the same will eventually happen in our world, if we do get sentient AI
Somewhat related: It always bothered me to see Star Trek: Voyager's Doctor - who was (for those who don't know) a holographic projection created by AI software running in the ship's computer - sitting at his desk in Sickbay, using one of the computer consoles.
I mean, he is the computer! Or at least a part of it. Isn't that a horribly inefficient way for him to enter, say, notes on patient visits?
Now we can move on to more interesting topics, like how Sam got her haircut (yes, I take hairdos very seriously!)
Now we can move on to more interesting topics, like how Sam got her haircut?
However, eventually that twelve year old is going to get a bit older and start being sexually aware. Having the emotional development and values of a three year old is not going to do her any favors once that happens. She'll be lucky if her first rapist is an 8th grader. Unless someone teaches Sam some values, she'll likely have a succession of them.
When Punchbot said "Fax me the invoice", I half expected Bubbles to go "Screeeeeeeeech Done."
But yeah, there are people who still insist on fax machines. Lawyers, for one. Don't know any accountants except ones who work for the government, and government (at all levels) also still relies heavily on fax machines. Some professions don't like cutting-edge technology. They like the edges on their tech to be as dull as possible.
I was going to say "A lot" but I've just noticed that they've been banned.
I'm happy to see the strange person has been dealed with.I think he was on here twice - the first several weeks ago and then this last round. Both times he de-lurked to rant about how a character needs to learn some discipline. My inner armchair psychologist is having a field day with words like "projection" and "transference" dancing like sugarplums in my head.
I'm happy to see the strange person has been dealed with.I think he was on here twice - the first several weeks ago and then this last round. Both times he de-lurked to rant about how a character needs to learn some discipline. My inner armchair psychologist is having a field day with words like "projection" and "transference" dancing like sugarplums in my head.
Uh oh, Boss came down here. Kinda like Klaus von Wolfenbach.
I feel ashamed that I shared a screen name with that weirdo...There's a few doctors that are essentially shifting to a modified printer/scanner combo that functions basically the same, but stores backup copies as files.
On the topic of fax machines, I heard a piece on the radio recently that their continued use by doctors is becoming an issue. But change is hard because they offer some level of security, and all the equivalents aren't as universally accepted.
For those of you wondering, helikelyviolated Wheaton's Law - something near and dear to Our Boss.
"Don't be a dick."
On the topic of fax machines, I heard a piece on the radio recently that their continued use by doctors is becoming an issue. But change is hard because they offer some level of security, and all the equivalents aren't as universally accepted.
But, to be on topic, Sam's behavior isn't really all that unusual for someone at 14. Undesired, perhaps. A little on the extreme side, certainly, at least sometimes. But I still remember what my friends (and enemies) in middle and high school were like. It wasn't all that off from how Sam generally acts.
What was that thing that Bubbles just squished? At first I thought Sam was annoying her enough to crush an inanimate object, but it looks like she was just compacting it for the recycle bin.Part of Punchbot’s shoulder joint. First panel of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3595
Oh, new comic. Quick Bubbles, distract her with something shiny!
Yeah, Sam would definitely be one of those kids I would have attempted to distract by jangling keys or using a reflection off my watch or pointing to something in the distance and running away while they looked away...
However, eventually that twelve year old is going to get a bit older and start being sexually aware. Having the emotional development and values of a three year old is not going to do her any favors once that happens. She'll be lucky if her first rapist is an 8th grader. Unless someone teaches Sam some values, she'll likely have a succession of them.
what the fuck is wrong with you
I was going to say "A lot" but I've just noticed that they've been banned.
Literally my forum visit today:
*sees thread about unfamiliar name being banned* "Huh, wonder what that was about. Oh well, probably nothing I'd know about."
*checks this thread* "Oh hey it's that name...oh. Ooooh. Wow. WOW. Okay then. Jesus."
On a lighter note: Sam really brightened Punchbot's day! I wonder if she'll become something of a shop mascot for morale support. Goodness knows with Faye and Bubbles as the proprietors they could use a little more, um...optimistic energy? around the place.
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Eh, maybe not. She brings a little too much energy for a recovery/repair atmosphere.
I made a report to the mods right before my previous post in this thread, and still contemplating emailing Jeph on the matter.
Bubbles is not too sure about her ability to be a soft floor mat, that is her worry in the last frame.Mmm, there's a whole load of implied and effective responsibilities that go with having an early teens adolescent round the place, and some folks do find it worrying. And in Bubbles case she's never been an adolescent human herself, so most likely way way out of any comfort zone. We shouldn't forget, too, that Bubbles has not had much time in comfort zones lately.
As with the holo-doctor, why does one of those robots use a tablet? I think the most egregious examples are the cyborgs and androids from Ghost in the Shell that interface with computers through keyboards like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6hxB1OK00).I assumed the point of the manual interface in that scene was to avoid neurally interfacing with the entity that could hack minds.
I think the better question is why is that one robot drinking coffee?
I think the better question is why is that one robot drinking coffee?
He's not sniffing coffee, he's visiting Unicorn Valley with a take-out tea!
Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?
I can't help now but find myself wondering who Greybot is.
Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?sack barrow in (at least SE) brit.
Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?sack barrow in (at least SE) brit.
I can't help now but find myself wondering who Greybot is.
Punkbot. His name is Punkbot. [/headcanon]
:-D
As with the holo-doctor, why does one of those robots use a tablet? I think the most egregious examples are the cyborgs and androids from Ghost in the Shell that interface with computers through keyboards like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6hxB1OK00).I assumed the point of the manual interface in that scene was to avoid neurally interfacing with the entity that could hack minds.
I am having a hard time not bursting out laughing and my coworkers are nearby so I now have to label your posts nsfw.
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Since when is drawing on someone with a permanent texta a tattoo, anyway?
Now I'm the one over thinking this comic...
I forsee legal trouble. An underage worker? Plus, anti AI-discrimination laws probably mean sprays are subject to the same health dept regulations as tats.
Punkbot. His name is Punkbot. [/headcanon]Catchy!
I am having a hard time not bursting out laughing and my coworkers are nearby so I now have to label your posts nsfw.(https://i.imgur.com/N4w1eIn.jpg)
The first thoughts that popped to mind when I read this: Are they going to charge for Sam's work? Is that ethical? They'd have to make up a price on the spot? They'd have to pay Sam then, right? It'd be under the table, because she's only 14. Is Sam going to then work more for them? What about school? Do they offer "Spray Times", which avoid school hours then? "It's Tagging Weekend! Our local artist is here to spray your chassis!" Maybe it could be more than just Sam? Maybe they could set up a venue for local spray artists? What would Sam think about her work being sold? What would Sam think about other artists potentially taking over her spot in spraying other robots?
Now I'm the one over thinking this comic...
Mohawk-robo made an interesting comment regarding authenticity. You'd think another robot would make some excellent sprays/tattoos bearing in mind their abilities (like perfect precision and so on). I'm probably overthinking it but I find it endearing that he wants that error on his body, understanding the beauty of more organic, human art. It could be a subconscious desire to look more like humans with all our faults.Spot on. It may even be fully conscious choice. An AI artist would default to photo-realistic images, so work by a meat-artist would be more be seen as more desirable to express individuality.
Comic!
Also, a robot using a fax machine!
A sentient robot using a fax machine
Hmm. I wonder if it was internal what the effects of a black fax would be on him.
As with the holo-doctor, why does one of those robots use a tablet? I think the most egregious examples are the cyborgs and androids from Ghost in the Shell that interface with computers through keyboards like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6hxB1OK00).I assumed the point of the manual interface in that scene was to avoid neurally interfacing with the entity that could hack minds.
At first I thought Faye was a bit unfair taking a cut from Sam payment.
Assuming the guy tipped 20 percent Faye took 9 buck's for work Sam did at zero cost to the business.
And that's good exposure for the business. Word of mouth.
Additionally it might arise to some child labour regulations breach.
But then again. Good lesson for Sam. About how business world operates.
It's hard to be sure. Punkbot pays $20 plus tip, though the size of the tip isn't specified. I have no idea what is customary with tattoo-artists, but let's say 10% for the sake of argument, so a total of $22. Next Faye is contemplating the money and offering Sam $15, so unless she's already slipped the tip to Sam separately off-camera, it does look as if she's just giving Sam $15 out of the $22 total (68%) and keeping 32% for the shop.
Sam knows the word 'ectothermic'! So she -reads- about snakes too.
Edit: Also, I like Sam's "They're not tattoos, they're sprays. Learn the terminology." Yeah, Faye, jeez!
Since when is drawing on someone with a permanent texta a tattoo, anyway?
It's NOT a tattoo...
"It's a SPRAY, duuuuude!"
:)
No, I don't think Faye kept the tip. Punkbot specifically said the tip was for the artist. Taking the tip would be outright theft as well as an exceptionally crappy thing to do to a friend. And $15 plus tip is pretty good to doodle on someone's back with a sharpie. To be honest, it's probably a better deal that most tattoo artists get when they're working out of someone's shop. Space rental, utilities, advertising and insurance isn't cheap.When I was starting out, I pretty much worked for just tips.
Sam, robo-tattoo artist. Wonder what Jim will think of her new career? :D
I can't help wonder if a lot of Bubbles annoyance and confusion is partly because she's having a hard time dealing with Faye Mk2 in a different chassis! ;D
Sam, robo-tattoo artist. Wonder what Jim will think of her new career? :D
Skullmaster Sprays, Exclusively at Union Robotics!
"Friggin' sick!" ~ Greybot
"It IS much better!" ~ Punchbot
there's gotta be some sort of "Now! Weekly" style community paper or circular, catering to AI's, that they could advertise in...
I'm not sure if this is correct but, according to some on the SubReddit yesterday, Sam is legally old enough to work in Massachusetts, so long as Union Robotics is a properly-registered place of work (and I can't see Punchbot having skimped on the paperwork). Because of ths, so long as Jim and/or his ex-wife agree, there is no reason why Sam cannot work after-school and possibly weekends, even if only on a by-commission basis.
Naturally, if she develops a rep amongst the local Synthetics as THE hull inker, the fact that she is only available for a dozen or so hours a week will make it harder to get an appointment and, naturally, that having a Genuine Sam Bean that much more a status symbol amongst the robo-hipsters. 8-)
I'm not sure if this is correct but, according to some on the SubReddit yesterday, Sam is legally old enough to work in Massachusetts, so long as Union Robotics is a properly-registered place of work (and I can't see Punchbot having skimped on the paperwork). Because of ths, so long as Jim and/or his ex-wife agree, there is no reason why Sam cannot work after-school and possibly weekends, even if only on a by-commission basis.
Naturally, if she develops a rep amongst the local Synthetics as THE hull inker, the fact that she is only available for a dozen or so hours a week will make it harder to get an appointment and, naturally, that having a Genuine Sam Bean that much more a status symbol amongst the robo-hipsters. 8-)
You do realise for that to work, Sam would need to have a great deal of maturity and attention, when currently it seems like Sam has the attention span of a ADHD rabbit that is stuck in a room full of shiny objects.
I'm not sure if this is correct but, according to some on the SubReddit yesterday, Sam is legally old enough to work in Massachusetts, so long as Union Robotics is a properly-registered place of work (and I can't see Punchbot having skimped on the paperwork). Because of ths, so long as Jim and/or his ex-wife agree, there is no reason why Sam cannot work after-school and possibly weekends, even if only on a by-commission basis.
Naturally, if she develops a rep amongst the local Synthetics as THE hull inker, the fact that she is only available for a dozen or so hours a week will make it harder to get an appointment and, naturally, that having a Genuine Sam Bean that much more a status symbol amongst the robo-hipsters. 8-)
You do realise for that to work, Sam would need to have a great deal of maturity and attention, when currently it seems like Sam has the attention span of a ADHD rabbit that is stuck in a room full of shiny objects.
Hard cash has an almost UNCANNY ability to focus teens, though... :)
Edit: Also, I like Sam's "They're not tattoos, they're sprays. Learn the terminology." Yeah, Faye, jeez!
I'm more impressed that this was all foreseen!
:)
I'm not sure if this is correct but, according to some on the SubReddit yesterday, Sam is legally old enough to work in Massachusetts, so long as Union Robotics is a properly-registered place of work (and I can't see Punchbot having skimped on the paperwork). Because of ths, so long as Jim and/or his ex-wife agree, there is no reason why Sam cannot work after-school and possibly weekends, even if only on a by-commission basis.
Naturally, if she develops a rep amongst the local Synthetics as THE hull inker, the fact that she is only available for a dozen or so hours a week will make it harder to get an appointment and, naturally, that having a Genuine Sam Bean that much more a status symbol amongst the robo-hipsters. 8-)
You do realise for that to work, Sam would need to have a great deal of maturity and attention, when currently it seems like Sam has the attention span of a ADHD rabbit that is stuck in a room full of shiny objects.
Hard cash has an almost UNCANNY ability to focus teens, though... :)
This has nothing to do with anything, but I just came up with the craziest theory. What if Spookybot hacked into Faye's toaster (we've seen the concept of AIs-as-toasters show up a million times) and burned down her apartment because it was important for some reason that she move in with Marten?
Also called a "dolly" in much of the Mid-West.Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?sack barrow in (at least SE) brit.
Also called a "dolly" in much of the Mid-West.Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?sack barrow in (at least SE) brit.
Somehow the proclamation 'I am the Skull Master' is slightly less worrying when done by a 14 yo girl. When a huge battle bot makes this claim, I might be inclined to take a step back before trying to make fun of it.
Again, I have to read bubbles' line in the voice of the great James Earl Jones.
For those (traitors) who don't know this voice by memory, think Darth Vader.
Again, I have to read bubbles' line in the voice of the great James Earl Jones.
For those (traitors) who don't know this voice by memory, think Darth Vader.
The great Thulsa Doom!
Does anyone else find it very suspicious that Sam goes to a school that lets her not go if she's having personal development and life experience? Personally, I think she's racing to school to be picked up by a parent so they don't know she didn't go that day. Maybe she's going to get busted when Bubbles gives back the Skullmaster mask to her Dad via Marten. "It's from the day Sam spent at our robot repair shop... No, not a weekend, it was one of her personal development and life experience days...I'll just let myself quietly out while you are screaming at Sam..."
Just dropping back into this one to say, I am truly disappointed in Faye actually speaking the word "Welp"....
:cry:
Does anyone else find it very suspicious that Sam goes to a school that lets her not go if she's having personal development and life experience? Personally, I think she's racing to school to be picked up by a parent so they don't know she didn't go that day. Maybe she's going to get busted when Bubbles gives back the Skullmaster mask to her Dad via Marten. "It's from the day Sam spent at our robot repair shop... No, not a weekend, it was one of her personal development and life experience days...I'll just let myself quietly out while you are screaming at Sam..."
A few notes on this: PVPA, the school Sam attends, is in South Hadley, 12 miles from downtown Northampton. So Sam isn't going to go sprinting back to it. She probably takes the bus in (there's a PVPA bus that stops in downtown Northampton.)
Also, if she did skip school then Jim ought to know about it. Most schools these days notify the parents if their kid doesn't show up - on days my son is out sick I tend to get a robo-call about 10 AM informing me that he's not at school. (Even if I've already called the school to tell them he wouldn't be in.)
And while I don't know much about PVPA's attendance policies.... yeah, I'm not buying Sam's explanation. A progressive school might allow it with parental approval for a specific educational purpose. But just letting a kid cut out of school whenever they feel like it probably violates the law and certainly opens up a legal can of worms if anything happens to the kid when they are supposed to be at school.
Meanwhile, in other news, Bubbles now has her Halloween costume. :-D
Alternatively, its Saturday and as new small business owners Faye and Bubbles can't afford to take the weekends off completely.
Hmmm, combat AI in a military grade chassis with strength and stamina beyond that of an ordinary human....
Versus
A tweenage girl.
Well, the anime and manga industry tells us that Sam is going to win after a long and drawn out battle that spans over 100 chapters.
Nah, the white house only got smoke damage since it was up on a hill downwind of the burning capitol.Named after the First Lady Dolly Madison, who used one to rescue precious art works and such from the burning White House, back when the Canadians torched it. (This probably isn't true.)Also called a "dolly" in much of the Mid-West.Cattle truck? You mean the sack-trolley?sack barrow in (at least SE) brit.
It reminds me about Angus; i do wonder about his eventual return/visit!
I'm certain that Angus is either on the 'retired' list or isn't on the list at all.He's still on the cast page (https://www.questionablecontent.net/cast.php), all of whom appear to be, with the exception of an allosaurus snack, eligible for resurrection.
Just dropping back into this one to say, I am truly disappointed in Faye actually speaking the word "Welp"....
:cry:
She said "howdy" and "whaddaya" two strips ago. I'd imagine those would be the more egregious examples to cry over if you cared enough to cry over hercharacter developmentlaxing language use...
It might surprise you to learn that "welp" is over 70 years old, have been used as a synonym for the interjection "Well". But it first came up in a scholarly article from 1946, "Thoughts on 'Yep' and 'Nope'" (http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/486479.pdf?acceptTC=true&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents), by Dwight Bolinger.
Welp is a word we've been using for decades, even if we're not actually hearing it as we're spelling it. Its only with the rise of social media that we're seeing more usage of it.
No, its a language thing, as they are wont to do.
The entire premise for the "unfinished p" certainly does not occur in Scottish speech.
(Considering that Scots *Yes* is AYE which hardly lends itself to a 'unfinished' plosive of any kind.)
Well if you want to be a pedant.
I meant that languages are constantly evolving.
But if you really want to read something, try this (https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/welp-meaning).
Just dropping back into this one to say, I am truly disappointed in Faye actually speaking the word "Welp"....
:cry:
She said "howdy" and "whaddaya" two strips ago. I'd imagine those would be the more egregious examples to cry over if you cared enough to cry over hercharacter developmentlaxing language use...
BTW, howdy and ya'll are both words in the dictionary, even though both are shortened forms of phrases ('how do you do' and 'you all' respectively).
In Pittsburgh they compress it even farther to "yinz." It's disgusting. Almost as bad as when they say they're going to drink a can of someone's father.BTW, howdy and ya'll are both words in the dictionary, even though both are shortened forms of phrases ('how do you do' and 'you all' respectively).
I'm still trying to figure out where "you'uns" comes from. Where I grew up (Appalachian foothills of southeastern Ohio) it was the plural of "you," as in "Are you'uns coming over for supper this Sunday?"
I'm still trying to figure out where "you'uns" comes from. Where I grew up (Appalachian foothills of southeastern Ohio) it was the plural of "you," as in "Are you'uns coming over for supper this Sunday?"Probably "you ones," probably evolved from "young'uns" (young ones).
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... has tried to eliminate all traces of Southern accents from her voice to further her career in academia.
Yeah, Southern accents, and particularly the Southern Appalachian accent, are associated in a lot of minds with lack of intelligence or education. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is - if you want people to see you as an educated person you have to lose that accent. It wasn't so much an issue when she was at Duke University, but there is no way Harvard would ever have hired her if she spoke with her mother's accent.That's why UK "public schools" taught "Received Pronunciation," so one could move on to "university" without an accent of lesser social status. For all I know they still do. Can the UK folks confirm or deny?
I grew up in Wichita, KS, so I've been asked by Oklahomans and Nebraskans if I'm from NYC because I have the Midwestern city accent (the one newscasters are supposed to emmulate). Before anyone asks, yes, rural Kansans do have a little bit of a drawal. It's more pronounced along the Missouri and Oklahoma borders, but only in the tiny "towns" (villages and hamlets).I'm still trying to figure out where "you'uns" comes from. Where I grew up (Appalachian foothills of southeastern Ohio) it was the plural of "you," as in "Are you'uns coming over for supper this Sunday?"Probably "you ones," probably evolved from "young'uns" (young ones).
I recently got gibed for sounding like a TV network newscaster (Pacific Northwest accent).
I grew up in Wichita, KS, so I've been asked by Oklahomans and Nebraskans if I'm from NYC because I have the Midwestern city accent (the one newscasters are supposed to emmulate). Before anyone asks, yes, rural Kansans do have a little bit of a drawal. It's more pronounced along the Missouri and Oklahoma borders, but only in the tiny "towns" (villages and hamlets).I was told in high school that the closest thing there was to neutral English was the Des Moines, Iowa non-accent, so that seems to fit with the "Midwestern City" name.
I've also heard it called a 'cosmopolitan accent'. Though, I'm also asked if I do radio voice over or that I should.I grew up in Wichita, KS, so I've been asked by Oklahomans and Nebraskans if I'm from NYC because I have the Midwestern city accent (the one newscasters are supposed to emmulate). Before anyone asks, yes, rural Kansans do have a little bit of a drawal. It's more pronounced along the Missouri and Oklahoma borders, but only in the tiny "towns" (villages and hamlets).I was told in high school that the closest thing there was to neutral English was the Des Moines, Iowa non-accent, so that seems to fit with the "Midwestern City" name.
Comprehensive schools were based on the other end of the spectrum and the most recent, serving a particular catchment area and where students were expected to learn a trade when they left.
The trouble is the whole debate is riddled with ridiculous political assumptions (on both sides) and any kind of rational evaluation and discourse is impossible.Politics and rational thought go together like .... no, not oil and water .... or a match and gasoline ...... more like a plasma furnace and puppies. :psyduck:
Politics and rational thought go together like ....
Frankenstein's monster and ballroom dancing.
Pacemakers and electromagnets.Politics and rational thought go together like ....
- Water and molecular Sodium;
- Frankenstein's monster and ballroom dancing.
The trouble is the whole debate is riddled with ridiculous political assumptions (on both sides) and any kind of rational evaluation and discourse is impossible.Politics and rational thought go together like .... no, not oil and water .... or a match and gasoline ...... more like a plasma furnace and puppies. :psyduck: