Ah, an ISO 6801 fan I see.Not so much. I just have a habit of using it since I've been in the position of creating files (meeting minutes, etc.) that are best organized by date. Now that the year is out of the teens for good, YYMMDD is far less likely to be misconstrued than DDMMYY. As an old programmer, it's also easier to keep files with names beginning YYMMDD blah blah blah since it's not always straightforward to sort files by date in some OSs, especially if in the process of reviewing the file you change it somehow. So I've landed on YYMMDD as a preference, not as a standard.
Honestly, YYYY/MM/DD is, for me, the most logical, aesthetically pleasing, and easily organised format. I wish that was the universal standard.
I picked "other", but basically I like the first option best, just without the comma.
In the end, anything BUT month-first is fine with me. That's just super weird and unwieldy for me.
Because, when listed in numerical order, they are also in chronological order.
Honestly, YYYY/MM/DD is, for me, the most logical, aesthetically pleasing, and easily organised format. I wish that was the universal standard.
Because it functions similar to integers with the last digits being the first to increase, then the slowly increasing with the month serving as a hundreds place, then the year as a thousands place?
Honestly, YYYY/MM/DD is, for me, the most logical, aesthetically pleasing, and easily organised format. I wish that was the universal standard.
Because it functions similar to integers with the last digits being the first to increase, then the slowly increasing with the month serving as a hundreds place, then the year as a thousands place?
One little two little three little-endian
Three big, two big, one big-endian
Given that it's weekly comic discussion.. thread titles would be neater if we used the week number, rather than month/day ranges, which are irregular on mid-week month or year changes, unless we write out the whole year and month twice. There's an international standard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date#First_week) having the 1st week with more than half it's days in the new year as week 1.
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Regarding the poll question, I prefer to do dates in what, to me, is their intuitive correct format. Today is the 4th day of January 2021, so the date would be written as '4th January 2021'. To me, other formats are back-to-front. Seriously, though, it's also not a big thing and certainly not something that needs to be changed. So long as everyone can get the necessary data, there is no need to have fixed thread title formats.
Ah yes.Canada seems to have the worst of both worlds, where they use both MM/DD/YYYY and DD/MM/YYYY at the same time.
US americans and dates.
I've literally seen places in which people used both M/D/Y and D/M/Y. Good luck finding out what date was actually meant if D <= 12.
I dont understand it. Its so easy. Just use YYYY-MM-DD (the international format) and you'll be all set. I use that all the time.
The snake needs to be puking knives.
My human-ing is failing me -- is Faye jealous of the kiddo getting complimented or jealous of May being so comfortable with the kiddo? Or of how her art isn't appreciated by their clients in the same way?
CCYYMMDD is the only way to go! It sorts properly. Been using that since 1978, first job was a home loan company, and calculating 30 year mortgages had to worry about that CC rollover.Imagine if they'd decided to use only 1 (one) digit for the century.
But then, Sam could just put her foot in her mouth using the dexterity only teenagers seem to have…My human-ing is failing me -- is Faye jealous of the kiddo getting complimented or jealous of May being so comfortable with the kiddo? Or of how her art isn't appreciated by their clients in the same way?I think it is mostly jealousy that May is threatening to become a closer adult-ish friend to Sam than she is.
But then, Sam could just put her foot in her mouth using the dexterity only teenagers seem to have…
My human-ing is failing me -- is Faye jealous of the kiddo getting complimented or jealous of May being so comfortable with the kiddo? Or of how her art isn't appreciated by their clients in the same way?
I think it is mostly jealousy that May is threatening to become a closer adult-ish friend to Sam than she is.
She gets territorial over absolutely everything in her life but I think it’s more related to an abject terror of change, at least change she doesn’t initiate. She should settle down once she’s had a good sleep on it, especially with Bubbles’s patience and sweet lovin’.My human-ing is failing me -- is Faye jealous of the kiddo getting complimented or jealous of May being so comfortable with the kiddo? Or of how her art isn't appreciated by their clients in the same way?
I think it is mostly jealousy that May is threatening to become a closer adult-ish friend to Sam than she is.
Has Faye's jealousy been an issue before? I know she's been territorial over Marten.
I've always kinda assumed Robot Jail might not be conceivable in human terms.
"Imagine a infinite space, but you can't move, along with a immense perception of time passing."
"....."
"That is not at all what Robot Jail was like, but it's a start."
I'm guessing that the tone of May's reaction is less "can't explain it in relatable terms to a human experience" and more "Kid, you literally have no idea what I have gone through, both in prison and out of it and its mildly insulting that you think you know what it was like".
The only parallel I can imagine for May's time in Robot Jail would be something like Locked In Syndrome, and even then you can't exactly relate the experience and expect someone to understand what its really like. Its one of those experiences that someone would have to go through to really understand, otherwise there's just a lot of smoke getting blown out of people's asses.
It may or may not come with some sort of behavioral adjustment regimen (like being subjected to nonstop Barney reruns...<sic>).
I'm guessing that the tone of May's reaction is less "can't explain it in relatable terms to a human experience" and more "Kid, you literally have no idea what I have gone through, both in prison and out of it and its mildly insulting that you think you know what it was like".
The only parallel I can imagine for May's time in Robot Jail would be something like Locked In Syndrome, and even then you can't exactly relate the experience and expect someone to understand what its really like. Its one of those experiences that someone would have to go through to really understand, otherwise there's just a lot of smoke getting blown out of people's asses.
I've been assuming it's something akin to solitary confinement without the ability to really move around. It may or may not come with some sort of behavioral adjustment regimen (like being subjected to nonstop Barney reruns or something overly saccharine and moralistic).
I've always kinda assumed Robot Jail might not be conceivable in human terms.
"Imagine a infinite space, but you can't move, along with a immense perception of time passing."
"....."
"That is not at all what Robot Jail was like, but it's a start."
*(I wonder if AI's in this universe can "shut off" or otherwise avoid hearing private conversations? )
Kids with no filters sometimes are the best and cheapest therapy.
I'm guessing that the tone of May's reaction is less "can't explain it in relatable terms to a human experience" and more "Kid, you literally have no idea what I have gone through, both in prison and out of it and its mildly insulting that you think you know what it was like".
It was bound to happen, but Sam's sincerity and empathy is actually something that I don't think anyone else has shown her before. Sam is trying, which is better than ignoring the past and not addressing it because you don't want to hurt May's feelings or you're apathetic to it.
New strip up.
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
"Imagine a infinite space, but you can't move, along with a immense perception of time passing."
Email is a like a prison. A prison with no walls. And no toilet.
Were they wrong? Considering the advantages AIs possess as well as a rich fictional history of AIs turning against humans it’s a reasonable concern.
New strip up.
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
Were they wrong? Considering the advantages AIs possess as well as a rich fictional history of AIs turning against humans it’s a reasonable concern. In this webcomic there are a few instances of AIs joking about stealing nuclear launch codes.
Of COURSE Robot Jail was built by Robots to appease humans...
Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of B. were upset because they got caught and C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.
Not an unreasonable assumption, but I'd like to hear Momo's version before I consider it canon.
Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of
B. were upset because they got caught
C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.
"Imagine being in a featureless box with no doors or windows for almost all the time. The only interaction you get is 'mandatory socialisation hour', which is one hour a day with a randomly-selected fellow inmate. The only break you get from those four walls is an interactive 'rehabilitatory education' video tutor who could give lessons to George Orwell in newspeak, social engineering and re-education."
"I don't like being with other people that much."
"Neither did I for the first two and a half years. After that, I was nearly crying in joy when the daily interaction hour came around. I volunteered to be dressed as a French Maid and be someone's AR personal data assistant to get out of there."
Were they wrong? Considering the advantages AIs possess as well as a rich fictional history of AIs turning against humans it’s a reasonable concern.
I think humans should be worried about about Spookybot / Yay Newfriend.
If you look at a country like Norway ...
Not an unreasonable assumption, but I'd like to hear Momo's version before I consider it canon.
That May would be an unreliable narrator seems pretty likely to me.
Story Time:
My best friend, a black woman, just for context, served the same amount of time in prison for marijuana possession as the white dude who killed my wife.
Story Time:
My best friend, a black woman, just for context, served the same amount of time in prison for marijuana possession as the white dude who killed my wife.
I can't 'like' this ... :cry:
Story Time:
My best friend, a black woman, just for context, served the same amount of time in prison for marijuana possession as the white dude who killed my wife.
I can't 'like' this ... :cry:
Neither can I. I learned very early to not put any faith in the system.
If you look at a country like Norway ...
I've read similar arguments from US authors comparing the American prison system with the Dutch and German ones. And I don't think those are even the most progressive ones by a long shot - iirc, Spain is one of several European countries that prohibits forced inmate labour.
P.S.: +1 Internets for that post, btw.
My mental image of May as a jet fighter is one doing loop-de-loops while going 'WHEEEEEEE!'
Not very terrifying.
Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of
B. were upset because they got caught
and C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.
"Imagine a infinite space, but you can't move, along with a immense perception of time passing."Quote from: Strong BadEmail is a like a prison. A prison with no walls. And no toilet.
I'm actually a bit surprised by this backstory. I always assumed robots had a special jail because robots can be disembodied, and thus can be efficiently and cheaply incarcerated, and you don't really want to try and imprison some robot bodies, like Punchbot. You know, practical reasons, not the invention of a cabal of elder AI's.
May's glossing over one thing, which is that she stole money, and tried to obtain a combat chassis illegally, both of which are things society can't tolerate. Stealing also hurts other people.
That sort of thing has to be discouraged somehow. May doesn't seem to get that she did anything wrong, so just explaining things to her wasn't going to work. Punishment's the only thing that seems like it would deter her from trying to do it again. I think punishment sucks as a learning mechanism, but I'm not really sure what else you can do with sentients like May.
Once you're settled on punishment as your deterrent, then you can get into the details of what's acceptable and proportionate, and what's not.
Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of
Yes. People who have actually been subjected to prison are the most likely to be vocal about finding it to be cruel. Stellar observation. Good job. Well done. A+.B. were upset because they got caught
Funny thing, I'd be upset, too, if I had years of my life taken by locking me in a cage of concrete and steel. I actually think the "getting caught" part isn't really the upsetting thing.and C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.
Sure sure. Tell you what. The penalty for jaywalking is now to have your arms and legs cut off. You know that's the penalty now, so if you get caught jaywalking it isn't cruel or unusual to cut off your arms and legs. Because it's the law and the law is always just. Right? No? Is it possible for the law to be unjust? If it is, then your argument is spurious. If you think it isn't, then I have no idea what the hell is wrong with you.
In a country where marijuana possession is perfectly legal in many places.
System is badly fucked, needs immediate and drastic reform.
My mental image of May as a jet fighter is one doing loop-de-loops while going 'WHEEEEEEE!'
Not very terrifying.
Okay, now imagine if May-Jet-Fighter got pissed off with someone. Or got into an argument with someone on a forum or something.
In a country where marijuana possession is perfectly legal in many places.
System is badly fucked, needs immediate and drastic reform.
Prison industrial complex.
The 14th Amendment has a caveat; "except as punishment for a crime."
Girl, I just got outta ROBOT JAIL. You know what you don't get in there? PRIVACY.
It can be both isolated and lack privacy. Having someone constantly spying on your thoughts while also denying you all social interaction is entirely within the realm of possibility.
I've never been arrested, I've never even visited the USA either, and I've always been very vocal about US prisons.
I think any decent person who informs themselves about US prisons will object to them.
Out of the top of my head:
- The USA has five times more inmates than the world average. No other country has such a high rate of prison inmates.
- The USA exploits their prison population for slave work, directly violating human rights.
- The USA has no plans for reintegrating people after prison. Frankly they'd love you to come back.
- The USA takes away the right to vote permanently. You're supposed to be rehabilitated and get a new chance after the penalty.
...
All this aside, am I the only person who thinks that the model code for May's new chassis is 'XJ-10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Life_as_a_Teenage_Robot#Cancellation)'?
It can be both isolated and lack privacy. Having someone constantly spying on your thoughts while also denying you all social interaction is entirely within the realm of possibility.
Robot Jail does sound cruel and unusual, but how do you rehabilitate AI criminals? Rewrite them? Use human psychology on them?
And as cruel and unusual as Robot Jail might be, I can't find it in me to be sympathetic for May who committed her crime with the intent of becoming a war machine and doing god knows what.
Those who whine about jails and "cruel and unusual punishment" I have found 95% of the time have A. been arrested for a crime that they were actually guilty of B. were upset because they got caught and C. did it willingly and knowingly with the penalties known ahead of time.
It can be both isolated and lack privacy. Having someone constantly spying on your thoughts while also denying you all social interaction is entirely within the realm of possibility.
Seems like that was the whole idea behind the idea of the Panopticon.
Additionally, if they could persuade Sam to do something more permanent like etching the tattoo into the chassis, then Faye and Bubbles could offer a 'removal' service.
I felt the urge to argue with May about calling Bubbles Faye's "girlfriend".If memory serves, that additionally requires cohabiting for at least two years. Where are we with that in in-comic time?
They've said "forever", so fiancee is closer.
Since they've exchanged vows and live together it could be considered a common-law marriage.
I always figured May was working as a condition of her parole. One of the reasons I figured she was working at a simple gas station, since other more desirable jobs see her as a felon.
I felt the urge to argue with May about calling Bubbles Faye's "girlfriend".
They've said "forever", so fiancee is closer.
Since they've exchanged vows and live together it could be considered a common-law marriage.
If memory serves, that additionally requires cohabiting for at least two years. Where are we with that in in-comic time?
There's just no real market for a repair shop that specialises in after market repair.
My knowledge of it comes from extensive reading from sources including correctional officers....
There's just no real market for a repair shop that specialises in after market repair. Its like creating a workshop to restore classic cars, but the only cars available are all last year's registrations.
I mean, she could do that to Faye's too.I figure it would be more like a watermelon than a soda can.
Thank you very much for the permanent feeling of discomfort, as well as the new recurring nightmare. How can I thank you enough?Take them to see Scanners in the cinema, with remastered digital surround sound?
Faye's resentment towards May and Sam is potentially quite toxic and she's going to have to face up to that at some point. It may be for different reasons but, ultimately, it's about selfish things and things that are only marginally her business (Sam being a local pop culture trend for however long it takes until the Next Big Thing arrives) and May is just trying to be the girl's friend. However, it all links to some of Faye's worse personal characteristics. She can be immature, petty and possessive and these things can cause lots of problems.I expect Bubbles will eventually figure out that Faye's attitude is driving away customers. Then there will be "The Talk".
Ah yes.Canada seems to have the worst of both worlds, where they use both MM/DD/YYYY and DD/MM/YYYY at the same time.
US americans and dates.
I've literally seen places in which people used both M/D/Y and D/M/Y. Good luck finding out what date was actually meant if D <= 12.
I dont understand it. Its so easy. Just use YYYY-MM-DD (the international format) and you'll be all set. I use that all the time.