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Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 04 Feb 2005, 23:08
Nor am I an artist.  

I DID, however, DRAW THIS (http://img214.exs.cx/img214/6259/aranel4ys.jpg)

GASP SHOKKU~

It's supposed to be an elf belonging to a friend of mine who is an infinitely better artist than I am, I assure you.

Speaking of elves, this one's (http://img67.exs.cx/img67/2301/sahalyletrois.jpg) mine.

God I hate anime.  *works on life-models religiously for a billion years*
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Finding Emo on 04 Feb 2005, 23:09
Once you start drawing anime, it's disgustingly difficult to get out of the habit.
I'm liking the shaping of the face in the first one. Very nice.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 04 Feb 2005, 23:11
ARG YES.  

TIS A PLAGUE UPON MY SKETCHBOOK.

I tried to pull away from it with the sketch of Aranel (the first elf)

And thanks. =)
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Finding Emo on 04 Feb 2005, 23:14
Every single one of my books in school were full-to-bursting with anime-styled sketches.
Even to this day I sometimes slip back into it. It's like riding a bike, but the bike follows you around everywhere.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 04 Feb 2005, 23:15
I'm sure Takahashi and Miyazaki are entirely responsible for this outrage.

We should write angry PTA hate mail.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Finding Emo on 04 Feb 2005, 23:16
And stick loads of random anime drawings around the edge. Then add a PS saying; "See how annoying it is? Bastards."
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Post by: Vertical Stripes on 04 Feb 2005, 23:22
And use alot of half-assed fan japanese in it.  Like "nani," "kawaii," and "baka"

Then sign it:

Ja ne!

Bii-essu-chan

(Great, my handle means BS in Japanese!)
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Finding Emo on 04 Feb 2005, 23:24
Now no Japanese anime artists will take your PTA hate mail seriously! Tsk.
It's all fallen apart before it even began.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 04 Feb 2005, 23:30
Story of my life.  And I think I can blame Takahashi for that, too.  Spring of Drowned Cat, pfft.  I never found any spring!
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: torg on 05 Feb 2005, 04:13
Oh, sweet! But the first one lacks pintsize on the hoodie ;)
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 05 Feb 2005, 10:02
I'm not entirely sure Aranel would like Pintsize, which makes me think she must be very mean.  :(

I drew her in a hoodie because everyone else drew her in supar fantastical elf gear.  And I thought that was boring.

And thanks! :)
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 05 Feb 2005, 11:01
Growing up in a Japanese household in Hawaii, and being my personal base style, I feel I have a good connection to what makes anime art appealing, and how it pertains here.

The hardest part about drawing in this style, is the economy of line. Since there are so few and very distinct lines, if you get placement or proportion wrong, it's very noticable.

The second hardest thing is the distortion (SD'ing) of head and body structure compared to other styles. Not only do you have to get it right with few lines, but get it right while SD'ing. Hard. :p

I see from your sketch that the facial portion, which always has to be right, is pretty good. I don't have any formal training, just practiced while looking at the best (Shirow, Samura, Miyazaki, Takahashi, Sadamoto, Akamatsu, Sonoda, Fujishima, Warren). Best of luck to you! :)
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Post by: Digs on 05 Feb 2005, 18:32
I do not really want to turn into a chick, Ms. Rumerko. I will stay away from China, I guess. Thank you all the same.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Jiperly on 05 Feb 2005, 19:23
Liar- you're an artist!
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 05 Feb 2005, 21:17
If that was directed at moi, hokay, I am a self-taught artist. :D

An old, regretful, self-taught artist. :(


If not, that's a jaunty cap you're wearing! :D
Title: Re: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: jeph on 05 Feb 2005, 21:20
Quote from: Vertical Stripes
God I hate anime.


What I like about these sketches is that you are clearly more concerned with rendering proper form and proportion than hitting all the typical anime/manga touchstones. Most American kids who want to draw anime get so fixated on the HUGE GOOGLY EYES OMG that they completely miss the excellent figure-drawing and posture skills that most actual manga artists posess.

Your style (in these drawings anyway) reminds me a lot of my pal Aido. There's some definite anime influence in there but you've made it your own.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 05 Feb 2005, 21:24
*THAT* was the advice of an artist. :D

It's a shame no files can be attached on this forum. I don't have my scans resident on a server as of now, but would like to share some of my stuff. Oh well. :(
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 05 Feb 2005, 21:38
Thanks everyone XD  

I also just drew this (http://img232.exs.cx/img232/7316/swishie5es.jpg).

I was thinking of the way I'd imagined I'd look when I was older, back when I was a kid.  I'm nothing like what I wanted to be, but hey, I'm not complaining XD.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 06 Feb 2005, 00:47
Looks good! :)

Here's something I noticed a while back about my work…when you draw something standard, like a profile or face-on, you tend to shut down creative brain parts and instead crutch on left-brain "cookie-cutter" habits that you pick up learning how to draw. This can lead to less-natural looking results.

I say this, because the 3/4 drawing up top is better than the face-on, and it could be due to something like this. This is partially why I didn't like to do plain poses, but something that always trained my brain to keep from crystallizing into symbolism. Doing something that doesn't match the cookie-cutter in your head forces your brain to draw what it sees, rather than a symbol of what it sees, and voila! An awesome face, like the first pic. :D

Right now, I'm struggling with that, not having drawn since '03 and trying to get design work, all of my hard work vanished. So we're really in the same boat!

Never stop drawing, or seeing things differently, ever. :D
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 06 Feb 2005, 00:51
I wanted it to look like one half of her was getting ready to do a pirouet, and the other half was just going "Ta-daaaa!"

Yeah, usually full-front on is kinda... bleheeehehehehe, but it kinda needed to be for this peecshur.

I appreciate your comments a lot.  Thanks.
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 06 Feb 2005, 01:12
Anytime. Or sorry? *cringes* :D
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 06 Feb 2005, 01:17
XD  No, I wasn't being sarcastic!  It was sincere!  *throws a party*
Title: Re: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 06 Feb 2005, 01:24
Quote from: jeph
Your style (in these drawings anyway) reminds me a lot of my pal Aido. There's some definite anime influence in there but you've made it your own.


Aido's rendition of Faye and Marten at the table are so clean, it pegs my worship meter. And her(?) two of Dora are more of same. She's obviously a diligent perfectionist at her work, and with color too. :)
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: lost in storm on 06 Feb 2005, 01:26
Quote from: Vertical Stripes

*throws a party*


*blows curly paper horn* Fleep! :D
Title: I am not a biscuit!
Post by: Vertical Stripes on 06 Feb 2005, 01:27
Aido's work is too awesome to be anything like mine.  But I appreciate the compliment, Jeff, and wish you many good days with lots of yummy treats for your kindness.