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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Kid Amnesiac on 27 Apr 2005, 01:51
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Only thing I'm going to mention is the new Sufjan Stevens, Illinois. I'm listening to it right now and it's magnificent.
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Leaked?
As in, available for illegal download before they are supposed to be released?
If so, pretty much every album is leaked these days.
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I need to start getting hold of more Promo/Advance copies. Always a good thing to have in your collection. Leaks are nice, but owning it before most is even better.
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Portishead - Alien was leaked and now it seems they won't release it, such a shame, it's really good:(
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I had Cradle of Filth - Nymphetamine and Dark Tranquillity - Character before they were released, saved me from buying them.
Man, I'm getting Wednesday 13's latest soon though, going to break my moratorium on buying mainstream albums for it. Wednesday 13 and his various dabblings are one of my guilty pleasures.
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I had Good New for People Who Love Bad News about a month before everyone else...
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I had Picaresque about 4 weeks before it's release. wewt.
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I've had the new album by the unseen for about a month; it comes out in early may. I also had a chance to get the new alkaline trio album, but didn't bother (cause I think it was the unmixed version or something like that).
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I need to start getting hold of more Promo/Advance copies. Always a good thing to have in your collection. Leaks are nice, but owning it before most is even better.
Agreed. I love the smug feeling I get when I get stuff A WHOLE MONTH before everyone else, it makes me feel special...but then everyone who may feel jealous has already downloaded it anyway, so I'm never that smug...
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Does anyone have the solo albu that was leaked of the lead singer form Soul Coughing.
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How about Radiohead, Hail to the thief.
I felt for the guys at the time.
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Why, because it sucked?
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Oh come on, it wasn't really all that horrible.
...not too horrible anyway
...I guess I shouldn't have felt bad for them, losing a bit of money to to a leak on the internet before the album is released would not be the downfall of Radiohead.
I can't imagine seeing Thom Yorke in the gutter muttering 'leak, hack, 1337, Thief, Hail!'
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I had Picaresque about 4 weeks before it's release. wewt.
i refused to download any songs off that album, it seemed evil.
i bought it instead when it came out.
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Even though bands make little money from album sales.
A few bands have said things along the line of: We've rather loose 10% of cd sales to downloads to have 50% more people pay to see us live and be there to buy merch.
Because cds dont make them money.
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Depends what kind of label they're on. With a large amount of the music I listen to if they lost 10% of album sales that would mean the label or band being seriously out of pocket, since they're only really looking at breaking even at best. Having said that, I do download a fair amount of stuff simply because I can't afford to buy any more records than I do already so I wouldn't be buying the record if I didn't download it, and therefore they aren't losing any money from me getting it for free.
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It depends on the label, yes, but I'm fairly sure that a band gets more of the $12-20 you pay for a ticket than of the $15 from a CD. With the CDs, the label, the producer, and the studio all get their cut of the CD money before the artist gets theirs.
I download most of my music, and save my money to see the bands live and buy merch.
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I do this as well, save for quite a few cds that I just felt the need to purchase. Although it sucks because most of the bands lately have been coming here always when I can't see them. :/
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It depends on the label, yes, but I'm fairly sure that a band gets more of the $12-20 you pay for a ticket than of the $15 from a CD. With the CDs, the label, the producer, and the studio all get their cut of the CD money before the artist gets theirs.
I download most of my music, and save my money to see the bands live and buy merch.
No, it still depends. For a start, I almost never go to see a gig that would cost $12-20 (I think that's about £7-13 or something?) they're usually £3-5 (about $5-9 I think), and with gigs usually the promoter has to cover cost of PA/room hire/flyers etc first so frequently bands lose money playing them. But for the Mock Heroic 7" I bought last week 100% went to the band since it was self-released, and the same with the Narcosis/Melt-Banana split I have since it was one that Narcosis were selling themselves.
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I've seen so many bands where the promoter hasn't been able to pay them -
the weirdest one was The Killers last year - the gig was sold out, and yet they still made a loss.
Also, another random fact - the record company takes 12.5% of the sale price for packaging. However, if people buy the album online, obviously with no packaging costs, the record company still takes that 12.5%.
Also, bands get something like £2 from every album sold, sometimes less.
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Major labels are a total rip-off. Unless you get absolutely huge bands are better off on an indie. They also take a percentage for breakages, which is something which used to happen years ago with vinyl pressing. But they still take it out of the artist's pocket.
The moral is, listen to Albini: fuck contracts and fuck the majors.
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I can't help but laugh at The Killers for that, I really can't.
Dying Fetus said it all about biglabels and what they do. Very nicely put too. Yeah, must of my stuff is indie label stuff, being Metal. And a lot of those bands have noted even with downloading their sales and gigs are up.
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"Sales are slumping and nobody can say why... Maybe it's because they released one too many lousy records?" - Dead Kennedys, 'MTV Get Off The Air'
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And you gotta worry that of all the pop crap with labels that love the RIAA. All the stuff the put out is only about 1/4 of what's made in a year. Or something like that, I'll have to go check the figures if I can.
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I just got Illinois by Sufjan Stevens. Listening to it right now, dear god, this album's amazing.
But yeah, almost every album is leaked a few weeks, or months before its release.
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I JUST got Xiu Xiu's La Foret. I'm really liking it so far. Sounds a lot like A Promise.
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A Perfect Circle's emotive...I didn't think it was worth buying a cover album that might suck without hearing it first. It wasn't that good anyway, so I didn't bother buying it.
Nin's With_Teeth, I was bombarded relentlessly by my friends who pirated the album with tracks from it, and I managed to get away with hearing only four of the songs and a few live versions before I got the album. I was trying really hard not to spoil it for myself. Buying it cleared up my harddrive some, though. :P
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Bumping to tell you all about two freshly leaked albums -
Ferocious Mopes - Say Hi to Your Mom
La Foret - Xiu Xiu
Indie Torrents. Woo.
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Bands pretty much get the screw-gee no matter how you try to support 'em, hey?
Anyway, I got some of the leaked stuff off of A Ghost Is Born before it came out, and that just about made me pee myself.
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I had heard that a new Shins album has leaked, I can't find it anywhere though. :/
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I got the new NIN about a week before it was out, and I had Frances the Mute back in November, and I just downloaded the new Dredg album that comes out in June this afternoon.
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Sigur Ros - Takk
Death Cab for Cutie - Plans (sucks major ass)
Deerhoof - The Runners Four
Animal Collective - Feels
Magnolia Electric Co. - Hard to Love a Man
Iron & Wine and Calexico - In the Reins
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Leaked
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The Xiu Xiu/Devendra Banhart Split 7" leaked
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Album leaks are so common these days, I no longer count the ones that leak at around the same time as promo copies start making the rounds (about a week prior to release).
However, the new Between the Buried and Me album, 'Alaska' leaked about a week ago, which makes it a full month before its September 6th release.
At the same time, it would make me laugh like crazy if the new Bleeding Through was leaked, since a couple of months ago, it was pushed from September this year to February next year.
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Why, because it sucked?
"It" referring to the album or the fact that it was leaked? I personally thought that Wolf At the Door is one of their best songs.
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Not really a "leak" but the new American Analog Set album is possibly their best work.
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I am so eager to buy so few albums the day they come out that leaks don't really affect me. I'll hear it eventually, and I don't really care when.
And Hail to the Thief was weak.
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Ehhh... I used to be a music reviewer and I had a radio show, so I got my hands on a lot of pre-release records. Sometimes the promo copies come out only a week before the record, and sometimes they come out months in advance; it just depends on the label. Regardless, I think the people who leak them are dicks.
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Why are they dicks? I mean, all they're trying to do is share music with other people who want to hear that music? I mean, if you're a musician, you should be flattered that people are leaking your shit, it means they're eager to hear your music. They like you so much, then they'll be more likely to fill up venues when you're playing.
'Cause everyone knows you make more money off concerts and merch than you make off CDs anyways.
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Because the people who work at indie labels are human beings whose trust is violated by the people who leak albums.
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The new Big Star album just leaked as well.
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Because the people who work at indie labels are human beings whose trust is violated by the people who leak albums.
But their goal should be to get that music to people who want to hear it. I don't see where trust violations come into play here.
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Yes, that's their goal. How well do you think it would work out in the long term if they spent a lot of money producing an album and then never sold it?
I know the whole "music wants to be free, man!" style of hippie bullshit is really popular on the internet, but for a full album, with studio recording and everything, to make it to the public requires more than incense and good vibes. The people who work at labels, at least the ones I've met, do love the music and want nothing more than to have people listen to it, but they're also people with bills to pay and food to buy who work really hard at what they do. They're doing what they love and trying to make a living off of it, and I hate it when people think they're acting as goddamned freedom fighters by ripping them off.
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I am so eager to buy so few albums the day they come out that leaks don't really affect me. I'll hear it eventually, and I don't really care when.
And Hail to the Thief was weak.
True, but it did have a couple of really good songs, mainly in the second half.
And was Plans really that bad? I heard a couple of songs from it and it seemed pretty good to me. I'll have to see when the real album gets released.
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Yes, that's their goal. How well do you think it would work out in the long term if they spent a lot of money producing an album and then never sold it?
You act as if leaked albums keep people from buying the album. This is not the case.
Plenty of people still buy the album. In fact, album leaks probably generate more hype surrounding an album before it comes out, which leads to more folks buying the album than would have done so sans leak.
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John Vanderslice - Pixel Revolt
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft
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Plenty of people still buy the album. In fact, album leaks probably generate more hype surrounding an album before it comes out, which leads to more folks buying the album than would have done so sans leak.
I can see this being the case with a strategic leak, if the company puts out a couple of songs so people have a preview. But I know there are a lot of less scrupulous people who would just download the whole thing and not bother even trying to pick the album up. Anectodal evidence, like "it probably increases sales," doesn't convince me that leaks increase album sales.
I would like free music, but on the other hand artists deserve to be compensated and need to be compensated.
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Twin cinema by the New Pornographers. I've had it for a month now, and it's street release dateis five days away still.
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However, the new Between the Buried and Me album, 'Alaska' leaked about a week ago, which makes it a full month before its September 6th release.
I got that, it's pretty good stuff. Most certainly going to pick it up.
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However, the new Between the Buried and Me album, 'Alaska' leaked about a week ago, which makes it a full month before its September 6th release.
um, i've had it for at least 2 weeks... probably closer to a month.
it was ok, i guess, but it isn't worth the 15 dollars to me (it's just not my style) ;)
Death Cab for Cutie - Plans
the death cab cd, on the other hand, is not that good at all. WAYYYYYYYY overproduced. #5 "i will follow you into the dark" is probably the best song on there.
Sigur Ros - Takk
i was sorta dissapointed with the sigur ros cd, except for #8 "gong" - it is vibrant and alive instead of sleepy like the rest of the album. yes, i realize it is sigur ros, but agaetis byjurn (or however the fuck it's spelled) was alive in that sense.... maybe i'm just retarded.
i have half of the magnolia electric cd... i like it so far.
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I would like free music, but on the other hand artists deserve to be compensated and need to be compensated.
The people who are going to download a leaked album and not buy the actual album when it is released and won't otherwise support the artist will instead download the tracks off a p2p program after the album is released.
You can't win.
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Yes I can but since it involves a dismantling of the P2P system and there's no way I'm getting into that debate I'll just drop the issue and say that for the most part leaking is bad, mmkay.
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Yes I can but since it involves a dismantling of the P2P system and there's no way I'm getting into that debate I'll just drop the issue and say that for the most part leaking is bad, mmkay.
I think dropping the argument with that is really lame. "You've got proof against my points, but I'm dropping it, it's bad."
Like he said,
1) Leaking can only generate more sales because anybody who isn't going to buy the album isn't going to buy the album, regardless of whether they got it leaked
2) More money is made from touring and merch than CDs.
How is this a horrible thing and dick-worthy?
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BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE
leaked
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Yer Damn right it was.
:)
Oh...and I will be seeing them in concert if they decide to do a proper US Tour this year.
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Oh man... Plans is awful.
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I don't think it's awful...just boring.
GO BACK TO GUITARS. PHIL COLLINS SUCKS.
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New Broken Social Scene is good, but nowhere near as good as You Forgot It In People. Man, this year has been a real let down. Oh well, here's hoping for the new........... Built to Spill?
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I'm sure someones mentioned it put Plans leaked just a few weeks ago
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.Kate. Please PLEASE read the threads before posting in them. Please.
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Alaska by Between The Buried And Me got leaked.
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New Broken Social Scene is good, but nowhere near as good as You Forgot It In People. Man, this year has been a real let down. Oh well, here's hoping for the new........... Built to Spill?
Not sure if you're into that kind of thing, but have you heard Bear Vs. Shark's offering?
The Ponys' new album is pretty damn awesome, as well. And I've heard good things about The New Pornographers latest.
Built to Spill is still making albums? Sweet. One of my faves.
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I really like the new new pronographers.
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Man, I love the new Broken Social Scene album way more than You Forgot It In People.
Now I need to go hear Plans and see how terrible it is, before I accidentally buy it or something.
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Man, I love the new Broken Social Scene album way more than You Forgot It In People.
Now I need to go hear Plans and see how terrible it is, before I accidentally buy it or something.
I have it if you want it. I think it's alright, I like their earlier stuff ALOT better though.
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Not sure if you're into that kind of thing, but have you heard Bear Vs. Shark's offering?
The man speaks truth. Terrorhawk was kickassawesome.
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Now I need to go hear Plans and see how terrible it is, before I accidentally buy it or something.
From what I've heard of Plans, it's pretty damn good...
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theres only 1 or 2 songs that I don't really like and even then I'll listen to them.
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Not sure if you're into that kind of thing, but have you heard Bear Vs. Shark's offering?
I actually kinda liked that album. Someone told me they're on the same label as Coheed and Cambria. I hate them so fucking much, but BvS is pretty good. I downloaded their first album too, but I need to get around to listening to it.
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Their first, Right Now You're in the Best of Hands, and if Something Isn't Quite Right the Doctors Will Know in a Hurry is awesome. I am kind of very in love with Buses/No Buses.
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Anyone hear the new Against Me! leak?
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Their first, Right Now You're in the Best of Hands, and if Something Isn't Quite Right the Doctors Will Know in a Hurry is awesome. I am kind of very in love with Buses/No Buses.
MY HANDS ARE SHAKING!!!
Such an awesome song. I love BVS. Can't wait for a new album.
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just snagged the new constantines album "tournament of hearts" tonight, set to release in canada sept 27 and about a week later i think in the US.
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Dirty Three - Cinder leaked on Friday. Such a great album.
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Their first, Right Now You're in the Best of Hands, and if Something Isn't Quite Right the Doctors Will Know in a Hurry is awesome. I am kind of very in love with Buses/No Buses.
I think that album is about 50% outstanding and about 50% miss... The beginning half is real good, but falls of at the end for me. An ex-girlfriend gave me the album a while back telling me it sounded like Minus the Bear... Maybe, but I think mostlyl she just thought that because Bear was in both names.
I mean, she also told me the Blood Brothers sounded like Q and not U.
Also it may get me lynched, but I checked out the new Broken Social Scene... and it's pretty boring.
[Edit] Another listening, and yeah, it's pretty good. I have to stop judging things on a listen when my attention is elsewhere.
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I'm pretty sure no one's mentioned that the Fiery Furnaces' Rehearsing My Choir has been leaked. Their grandma sings in it! Oh noes!
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The BvS album Terrorhawk to me sounds so....blah. utterly typical and unoriginal post-punk indie rock.
It's accessible, and sounds good for a month, but then you never listen to it again. Or, at least, that's how it sounds to me.
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Um, no?
Well, not for me, anyway. I've been listening to both of their albums since they came out, and I still listen to them frequently. I've just never heard anything like them. Right Now blew my mind, and Terrorhawk was even better. I don't know where you got "utterly typical and unoriginal post-punk indie rock" from. I guess that's just pretention.
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I tend to really enjoy the 'waiting to get an album' feeling, and seeing the release date inch ever closer provides a lot of excitement. Example; a new dEUS album (pocket revolution) is coming out next month, and its been leaked... not so much of a problem now they're on V2, but still. But though I could get it, I dont want to. Because waiting is fun. I guess it depends; is your desire to beat everyone else stronger than your love of the waiting?
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I don't mean to be pretensious. Maybe I am. Or maybe I just have specific tastes?
To me, BvS just reminds me of Rival Schools three-four years ago. They were easy to listen to. The songs were upbeat, catchy, and had a sound that seemed reminiscent of other straightforward indie rock.
BvS has it, too. The guy yelling in the background. The ATDI inspired guitar lines. Traditional song structure.
But I didn't mean to offend anyone who likes them. I thought this forum was so we could discuss music?
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I'm sort of with Pun Intended. It's good, but it's nothing I haven't heard before.
Also: Deerhoof's The Runners Four leaked a long time ago.
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(Remastered) Explosions In the Sky - How Strange, Innocence leaked
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I don't mean to be pretensious. Maybe I am. Or maybe I just have specific tastes?
To me, BvS just reminds me of Rival Schools three-four years ago. They were easy to listen to. The songs were upbeat, catchy, and had a sound that seemed reminiscent of other straightforward indie rock.
BvS has it, too. The guy yelling in the background. The ATDI inspired guitar lines. Traditional song structure.
But I didn't mean to offend anyone who likes them. I thought this forum was so we could discuss music?
Sorry about that. I throw my reasoning to the wind and get stupid when I'm in a bad mood. It's the hormones, I guess. XP
Anywho, how is Deerhoof's new album?
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The new Deerhoof is reallly good, much more conventional without giving up the weirdness. I think it will be the album that people introduce people to Deerhoof with from now on. It's a big long though, but so is a lot of good music.
I forget who it is, but the dude also sings more on the album.
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The dude sings? I've only heard Revielle in Milk Man, so I must have missed it.
That's cool, though. The regular singer annoys me sometimes.
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Well, I think he sings back up on a couple of songs, but never lead iirc. THis one though he sings a couple.
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I heard the new Coheed and Cambria leaked, I might check it out. I'm really liking the song Welcome Home. Claudio doesn't sound as high pitched.
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the new Metric leaked
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Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain has leaked.
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I got Eels' latest about a week before it came out. Midtown's too. Disturbed's new album which isn't out yet, I've had for almost two months. That's what you get when you say you support people downloading your music.
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Supposedly the new Franz leaked. Meh...
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Supposedly the new Franz leaked. Meh...
It's not supposedly! Is truth. I am listening to it right now. Man, it's so fun it should be made illegal.
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Lightning Bolt - Hypermagic Mountain has leaked.
No foolin'? Where?
Edit: Nevermind. Found it at a certain Pig's place.
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The new Boards of Canada and Gravenhurst I got this past week.
I can't wait for the official releases!
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The new Franz Ferdinand comes out next month but its already been leaked. I am meaning to look into it but I hear its not as good as the first.
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the paul mccartney album has been leaked for a few weeks, also the new american analog set.
tatu. lolz
new wolf parade! (pretty rocking if you ask me! which you should!)
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of all still-as-of-yet-unreleased leaks, wolf parade's is the one i am most willing to tie a ribbon round the old oak tree for. definitely.
as for other leaks, i also got both the new b.o.c and fiery furnaces and was quite underwhelmed by both. takk is quite pleasant, and b.s.s.'s latest has slowly been growing on me.
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XXL (Xiu Xiu Larsen) - Ciautistico
The Boats - We Made it for You
Both leaked.
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Sun Kil Moon's all Modest Mouse covers album Tiny Cities leaked, and it's excellent.
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I bought Deerhoof's new album today after having it leaked for like a month and a half now (?)
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I've stopped downloading leaked albums. I found that I was much happier when I waited until the release, went out and bought the actual CD on its release date, but that listening to the album before it came out and then going to buy it removed any of the fun in buying a new CD.
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I've stopped downloading leaked albums. I found that I was much happier when I waited until the release, went out and bought the actual CD on its release date, but that listening to the album before it came out and then going to buy it removed any of the fun in buying a new CD.
I don't unerstand this reasoning. I want to listen to something when it's done. I don't want to wait an unnecessary amount of time to listen to something that is done and ready. Artists should feel glad that people want to listen to their music, and true fans are going to buy the album anyway.
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I've stopped downloading leaked albums. I found that I was much happier when I waited until the release, went out and bought the actual CD on its release date, but that listening to the album before it came out and then going to buy it removed any of the fun in buying a new CD.
I don't unerstand this reasoning. I want to listen to something when it's done. I don't want to wait an unnecessary amount of time to listen to something that is done and ready. Artists should feel glad that people want to listen to their music, and true fans are going to buy the album anyway.
Exactly. 'True' fans, but shitloads of people don't bother to buy CDs and just download it all.
I like the feeling of owning a CD, and I like the idea of waiting until an artist wants me to hear the material.
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By downloading leaked albums, you aren't complementing the artist. You're taking power away from them. They have the right to decide how their albums will be set up and experienced, and by downloading something that you're not even sure is the real mix, well, that just doesn't seem right.
That said, I have checked out out one or two leaked albums over the years.
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Exactly. 'True' fans, but shitloads of people don't bother to buy CDs and just download it all.
I like the feeling of owning a CD, and I like the idea of waiting until an artist wants me to hear the material.
Shitloads of people are always going to download music. You can't change that. I like the feeling of buying albums too, but that doesn't stop me from listening to it beforehand. Plus, don't you want to know that what you're spending money on isn't going to be crap?
By downloading leaked albums, you aren't complementing the artist. You're taking power away from them. They have the right to decide how their albums will be set up and experienced, and by downloading something that you're not even sure is the real mix, well, that just doesn't seem right.
That said, I have checked out out one or two leaked albums over the years.
Albums are done way before a cd is released. Just look at Wilco for that example. When Yankee Hotel Foxtrot leaked on the internet, they didn't sue people or get mad, they went ahead and put the album on their site for people to hear it for free months before its release. They did the same for A Ghost is Born and they still sold a whole lot of albums.
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The last leak I downloaded was Broken Social Scene. I also pre-ordered the actual CD. Then, every week, I would let myself listen to *one* of the songs once or twice, starting with the obvious "singles".
It was like, you know, actually having radio that didn't suck. (If there's a single college DJ around here who would have hyped it up, I haven't found them yet.) That's what anticipation is all about!
I can't think of anything else recent really. Hail to the Thief, Vespertine... bought both of those the day they came out too. (And kept the advance of vespertine because it had the *far* superior mix of Our Hands on it... :P )
Not that that's particularly weird, because I generally don't buy *anything* I haven't previously downloaded or otherwise put on my computer. I think my money should go to whatever artists deserve my support based on how much I like their work, not on giving myself some kicks by gambling on stuff I don't know if I like or not. That's a selfish thrill, and if I make a poor choice, it's less money I could use to support someone deserving. I just don't romanticize the record-buying experience, I guess. It's entirely a means to an end (patronage) for me.
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Well said, decklin.
On topic: Explosions In the Sky's The Rescue has leaked. It is incredible. I adore it.
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What about leaks that are substantially different from the eventual release? I remember when Guero was released (yes, I'm a Beck nerd), "Scarecrow" was about three minutes shorter than the leaked version. The only thing missing was a long and mildly aimless jam, but being a nerd I was still all giddy about having two versions of the song. Plus, the mix of "Send a Message to Her" was all kinds of different on the CD (better, even-- more bgvox).
Not to mention Fiona Apple's Extraordinary Machine being leaked as a Jon Brion production and released as a Mike Elizondo production, as an extreme example.
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Exactly. 'True' fans, but shitloads of people don't bother to buy CDs and just download it all.
I like the feeling of owning a CD, and I like the idea of waiting until an artist wants me to hear the material.
Shitloads of people are always going to download music. You can't change that. I like the feeling of buying albums too, but that doesn't stop me from listening to it beforehand. Plus, don't you want to know that what you're spending money on isn't going to be crap?
I base what albums I buy on singles rather than leaks. I listen to what they want me to hear beforehand.
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I've heard countless albums where the singles are the only songs worthwile songs off an album. Or the other way around. Trail of Dead's "Worlds Apart" is probably the worst song ever made, but the album has a lot of quality tracks. If I had heard that single, I would've never bought the album. But thanks to the leak, I knew it was just a bump in the road.
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I've heard countless albums where the singles are the only songs worthwile songs off an album. Or the other way around. Trail of Dead's "Worlds Apart" is probably the worst song ever made, but the album has a lot of quality tracks. If I had heard that single, I would've never bought the album. But thanks to the leak, I knew it was just a bump in the road.
I really can't be bothered with this argument any more, neither one of us will budge an inch.
So I'll just throw out a gratuitous 'it's illegal, bitch' and be on my way.
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^ Still gonna do it.
On topic:
Eluvium's Travels in Constants EP has leaked as well. A single 33 minute long track. It's incredible.
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The Strokes - First Impressions Of Earth
Leak'd
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As has
Belle and Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
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Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins - Rabbit Fur Coat
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I've heard some tracks from In Flames' new album have leaked, but I don't have any of them so I can't verify this.
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I've heard Crawl Through Knives.
...meh.
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The Strokes - First Impressions Of Earth
Leak'd
I've heard Juicebox. I love the way the lead singer sounds comfortable with his voice. He's really stretching beyond the monotone drone of previous albums.
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Is The Rescue the new Explosions in the Sky CD?[/i]
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Islands leaked
2/3rds of the unicorns
i listened to it and it's really not good at all
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the new dragonforce has been leaked for a month or so, and its supopsed to be released sometime next year.
anywho, it is completely breathtaking though, the guitarists in that band are some of the best out there.
bleeding through's new album leaked also,
and while its not bad, they over did the clean vocals.
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Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins - Rabbit Fur Coat
ahhh! i love this album, i just want to hug it all day!
(no, seriously, i've been so addicted to it for weeks. and yeah, i'll plunk down some cash for it when it actually comes out. it's worth the money.)
and i got plans when it leaked. all i could really say is "thank goodness i didn't pay for that." sooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
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There's a leak of Liars' new one, Drum's Not Dead, floating around at the moment, in case anyone's interested.
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The Rescue is NOT a full length by Explosions in The Sky it is about 38 mins long----(no track is longer than 5 mins) 8 tracks titled ---Day One ---Through --- Day Eight---It was suposed to be a tour only release.....It was for sale at the show last night in LA....where they played 1 track i instantly recognized....It is widely avaliable on Soulseek and other P2P networks......It is as usuall a stellar release......They sell it (and everything else CD's T's etc.) for 10 dollars
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That's a lotta dots. ............
Islands leaked
You mean that old 70's King Crimson album? :D
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Destroyer - Rubies leaked
Sounds great
And for the "Islands - Return to the Sea" not a very good album
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I've heard Crawl Through Knives.
...meh.
Meh to you bro.
It's Come Clarity, and it kicks ass. Better than the last two albums combined. The song Vacuum cannot be denied.
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I've heard Crawl Through Knives.
...meh.
Meh to you bro.
It's Come Clarity, and it kicks ass. Better than the last two albums combined. The song Vacuum cannot be denied.
sorry, but they went from decent swedish melo-death to more generic swedish influenced metalcore.
not a good change.
go listen to clayman or whoracle.
muchmuch better stuff.
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I've heard Crawl Through Knives.
...meh.
Meh to you bro.
It's Come Clarity, and it kicks ass. Better than the last two albums combined. The song Vacuum cannot be denied.
sorry, but they went from decent swedish melo-death to more generic swedish influenced metalcore.
not a good change.
go listen to clayman or whoracle.
muchmuch better stuff.
Before I start, be warned that most of my response is due to the fact that I "have to defend" my tastes all the freaking time. It's like people tell me they've sold out, when 98% of the western world has no idea who the fuck they are. So really, I find it all silly. Don't take it personally, I don't.
Heh. I own every album dude. Don't tell me what i have to listen to, as Clayman is still my favorite album, ever. I can still find that I like the new album anyway. What's sad is that most people, after the previous album fail to give this one a shot. You'd be surprised, how many old school influences you can find. I understand it's still all a matter of taste, but to call them generic is a bit ridiculous considering the amount of experimentation they've made with their sound.
I of course expect you to respond with a list of bands that you find better. Fine, I've heard most of them: Ominum Gatherum, At the Gates, Dissection (blech!), Kalmah, Dark Tranquillity (way rad but can be boring), Nightrage, it doesn't really matter. Point being is that I find a lot of these bands to be generic (At the Gates aside, i mean they and IF started the genre) and I think it's the direct punch of IF's sound and emotion in the vocals that seperates them for me. So, maybe you disagree, but don't try and tell me I'm wrong because, just like you, I have my opinions
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It's Come Clarity
I was talking about the song.
I saw In Flames live a month or so ago, and the amount they've changed since the last time I saw them before that (Hammered at Xmas) was incredible. Every track had had an oscillated electronic backing added to it, and all the heavy vocals had been down-graded. I could scarcely recognise Episode 666.
The problem with In Flames is that, indeed, they aren't generic MDM. They're generic to bands like Shadows Fall.
Also, because it looks like pet hates time, In Flames did NOT co-invent MDM with AtG. If you want a co-inventor, it was Edge of Sanity. Their trio of albums from 1992-1994 (Unorthodox, The Spectral Sorrows, Purgatory Afterglow) is absolutely seminal to everything that MDM has ever done, and 1996's Crimson maybe even more so, and it really amazes me that so few people have actually heard them. When you consider the kind of Quantum leap of experimentation they were committing when they wrote and recorded the song 'Enigma' in 1991/1992, it's pretty mind-boggling.
And on the EoS note, if you want vocals and lyrics with emotional punch, Dan Swano is your man. Listen to 'Elegy'. Zomg.
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I'll give you that they were predated by Edge of Sanity (whom I never totally got into, but are very very good), it's just generally referred to as IF with Lunar Strain in 94, the jester race in 95 and 96 as being part of that scene's creation. And yes, considering the time period, WOW. And I've seen IF live 5 times, so yeah, it may be true, that they've added some electronic backing, but a bad show it makes not. As a matter of fact, seeing them in 04, the song the quiet place aside, was better than when I saw them with Iced Earth, simply due to the fact that they've cut from their sloppiness. If they've really changed so much since I saw them at ozzfest (no comments on that please, I don't care.), then that is really sad. Generic to Shadow's Fall? eh. I'd NEVER go that far. Everyone whom i've talked to that hates everything after colony, still thinks they sound like In Flames, just in their eyes a bastardized form of it. What bands like Shadow's Fall lack are anything besides, I dunno, constant riffing.
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I really loved IF when I saw them in December, but the last time (with Motorhead) something had just...gone. The songs seemed to have all become very homogenized and to have lost their emotional impact. (And I will agree with you, In Flames can have a very good emotional impact.)
They really did buy into the whole Gothenburg scene explosion in the early-ish naughties though. I don't particularly mind the electronic influence, but the way they're playing it is very much drawing influences from the modern metalcore and even nu-metal scenes, giving them a vastly expanded fanbase: another thing I've been beginning to notice is a change in their fanbase. As recently as a year or so ago In Flames fans tended to be metalheads. Now they're getting very popular among mallcore-type kids of a much younger age. Their sound just seems to have softened and become less appealing, in terms of integrity as much as musicality. There's a less visceral quality about it. I won't deny though, that, at the same time, my musical taste has moved away from Modern Metal. Nuclear Blast catalogues will never again hold the same shine for me.
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That's really disheartening, considering I'm seeing them in January.
In general though yeah, as one gets older, like myself, I've drifted away from metal. I'm actually rocker first, metal fan second.
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When I was 16, I was so 'TRUE BLACK METAL FOREVER!'
Ironic as at that time I was mainly listening to crap like Dimmu Borgir and Thou Art Lord. Thank goodness you only have to be 16 once.
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Eh, I was never too into the metal scene to begin with I guess. Too heavy to hang out with the cool kids, too much of a puss to hang out with the "tru kvlt necro shenanigan bunch"
How dare I be medium :P
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I've heard Crawl Through Knives.
...meh.
Meh to you bro.
It's Come Clarity, and it kicks ass. Better than the last two albums combined. The song Vacuum cannot be denied.
sorry, but they went from decent swedish melo-death to more generic swedish influenced metalcore.
not a good change.
go listen to clayman or whoracle.
muchmuch better stuff.
Before I start, be warned that most of my response is due to the fact that I "have to defend" my tastes all the freaking time. It's like people tell me they've sold out, when 98% of the western world has no idea who the fuck they are. So really, I find it all silly. Don't take it personally, I don't.
Heh. I own every album dude. Don't tell me what i have to listen to, as Clayman is still my favorite album, ever. I can still find that I like the new album anyway. What's sad is that most people, after the previous album fail to give this one a shot. You'd be surprised, how many old school influences you can find. I understand it's still all a matter of taste, but to call them generic is a bit ridiculous considering the amount of experimentation they've made with their sound.
I of course expect you to respond with a list of bands that you find better. Fine, I've heard most of them: Ominum Gatherum, At the Gates, Dissection (blech!), Kalmah, Dark Tranquillity (way rad but can be boring), Nightrage, it doesn't really matter. Point being is that I find a lot of these bands to be generic (At the Gates aside, i mean they and IF started the genre) and I think it's the direct punch of IF's sound and emotion in the vocals that seperates them for me. So, maybe you disagree, but don't try and tell me I'm wrong because, just like you, I have my opinions
i in no way was trying to say that you have bad taste for liking their newer stuff.
i was just saying i like all their older stuff better. hah, i still enjoy the new album, i just think it is weak compared to their older work.
i guess i came of as more of an elitist prick than i intended though.
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Stop with the quote tunnels, we don't forget what is right aboves ya. :)
As for the topic:
Band of Horses - Everything All The Time has leaked (And has reminded me of Kid A)
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Appleseed Cast - Peregrine
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I don't mean to be an ass, but do you have any idea where I could get that appleseed cast album? I've looked everywhere I know of :(
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I got it off of Oink's pink palace
http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=382208&hit=1
They often hand out site invites @ the irc channel.
irc.oink.me.uk #invites
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built to spill - you in reverse
been leaked for a little while now. i like it... it harkens back to the 'keep it like a secret' days.