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Think Natasha, with a penis.
Okay, so, my friend is a metalhead... and that's all he listens to, mainly - well, that, and Bright Eyes (odd, I know). Lately I've gotten him into some Afghan Whigs and even some Decemberists... but what other music should I push on to him? He seems pretty open minded about me forcing my crap down his throat, so that's exactly what I want to do!
Help my Metalhead friend see the light.
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What metal bands does he like?
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METAL IS GREATER THAN INDIE BY FAR.
YOu see, metal is actually more indie than indie, pushging RAW EMOTION and fucking awesome guitar and shit over the fucking boring cack you listen to.
I AM VERY DRUNK AND STUFF.
RAWR.
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IN THE BOOOOOOK OF HEEEEAAAVVVY METAAAAAAAAAALLLL!!!!
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Introduce him to Voorhees, Creation Is Crucifixion, Trencher, You And I, Orchid, Spazz, Melt-Banana and Man Is The Bastard. Not metal, but may well appeal to a metalhead.
But if you want something indie, get them some Mission of Burma. They have a nice hard edge to them.
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HEEEAVY EMTAL IS ALL YOU NEED.
INDIE I FOR CUCOSKS
FUCK YOUN AL
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I think you need some quiet time alone with Manowar right about now.
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Oh man, that's fsound sgod.
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Do you know who made havy metal? THE GODS MADE HEAV METLA/!!!T
They also saw that it was good!
REAL GOOOOOD
so good trhat ade manowar write a sibg abot ut.
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Which emans that metal is the light! It#s you inde fools who need to see it..THE BOOkkkk h
heavy metal is so cool that it#s ghusrt WHOA
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"There's metal in the air tonight, can you hear it call?"
Back to recommendations for the metalhead, how about some MC5, Stooges and late period Black Flag? Can't beat the classics.
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METAL RULEZ LEMMY IS GOD!!!!
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HEEEAVY EMTAL IS ALL YOU NEED.
INDIE I FOR CUCOSKS
FUCK YOUN AL
HAHAHAHA.
KharBevNor. .. \m/
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ROFL
<3khar
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ah yes, the resident Poster of Drunken Threads. Man, I loves you Khar... "Straight People Are a Bit Odd..."? Classic.
Anyway, I'm sad to report that he's only into the mainstream stuff (not his fault, he has very little experience in these things. He just listens to whatever is handed to him.)
Okay, so, you can crucify me if you wish... but this is what he listens to, and I subsequently have catagorized it as metal.
1. Slipknot
2. Manson
3. Static-X
4. Slayer
5. Disturbed
6. System of a Down
7. Otep
8. Mudvayn
etc, etc...
Other stuff-
1. Nirvana
2. Bright Eyes
3. Nine Inch Nails
4. Decemberists
5. Afghan Whigs
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Hmmm, come to think of it, we need to get this kid some Metal That Doesn't Suck TM. Don't we? Alright, so I'm not a huge metal fan myself, so let's start posting some Paradigms of the Metal genre.
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Umm.. Dark Tranquility.
They are an awesome metal band it is hard not to like.
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GWAR BROUGHT ROCKNROLL FROM OUTER SPACE.
Wait who said that in the first place, a long time ago?
Neurosis. They are pretty decent stuff
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To make it even more metal, I was mainly drinking Jack Daniels last night. About half a bottle of it.
ANYWAY our scientists have analysed the effort and proved that my sense of indignation proved unfounded as your friend is a poser. Our scienists have proved that there is no logical reason to like Otep, apart from the fact that that chick is pretty hot. By all means do anything and everything you can to improve his musical taste, though, me being who I am, I would probably see this as involving Acid Bath, Sabbat, old Dimmu Borgir, some Priest, Maiden and Motorhead, 3 Inches of Blood, Running Wild, Samael etc.
It is safe to say though that once someone sets themselves (however wrong footedly) on a path there's probably a good reason. He probably likes loud, aggressive/angsty music. Just get him listening to BETTER loud aggressive/angsty music.
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Poser indeed, ugh what horrible crap that list is. Still, the drunken postings where great. Khar, dude, I owe you a drink of choice if I ever see you mate.
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Yeah, if you're ever in Leeds Khar I'd buy you some Jack Daniels and see if you're as much fun drunk in real life.
I've had good results introducing nu-metal fans to Refused's 'The Shape of Punk To Come', I'm not sure why they seem to find it palatable but they do.
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Building on my last post, Acid Bath seem quite compatable with new-metal sensibilities: Grunge/goth influenced sludge. Get him to listen to 'Paegan Terrorism Tactics'. If he likes Slayer, then he should be able to take other thrash bands: Stormtroopers of Death would probably appeal to him, old Metallica's a safe bet too, maybe some of the old thrash giants: Exodus, Kreator and the lesser known but fucking awesome Tankard. Get him into the softer end of the extreme as a stepping stone: MDM bands like the aforementioned Dark Tranquillity, In Flames (He'll like the new album almost certainly, then you can work back), Arch Enemy, Children of Bodom*, Soilwork, maybe At The Gates, Opeth* and Edge of Sanity. Symphonic/Gothic black metal too: Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir are the best known (again, you can start on the latest albums and work back to earlier, superior material) but there's loads of others, often better, that'll appeal of he likes those: Illnath, Hecate Enthroned, Gloomy Grim and Limbonic Art and Cryptic Wintermoon** are some good suggestions, In the Black Metal realm as well you might want to consider proto-BM like Mercyful Fate (and descendant King Diamond), Venom etc. , as well as more punky/rock influenced BM bands such as Carpathian Forest, Abigail and Treblinka***. There are the classics of hard rock and metal of course: Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, AC/DC and so forth: plus modern descendents like 3 Inches of Blood, Dream Evil, Viking Skull, etc. and Melo-doom/stoner bands like Candlemass and Orange Goblin (candlemass will be good if he's an angsty cunt: Make him listen to 'Solitude' before he burns all his Slipknot CDs: My Dying Bride are in a similiar vein). NIN suggests a liking for Industrial rock...get him into Rammstein, Ministry, KMFDM and Hanzel Und Gretyl. The Decemberists are touch folky aren't they? Folk metal his ass! Finntroll, Skyclad, Waylander, Korpiklaani etc. may be too bizarre for him, or may be his groove. Speaking of groove, there's some pretty accessible groove-based Death Metal: I would suggest Grave, Dismember and Vital Remains personally, as well as some new Death 'n Roll Entombed.
Should be enough to be getting on with...
Also, gentlemen, it takes many a Jack and Coke before I get to the stage I was at last night. I drank about half a large bottle, some vodka and goodness knows how much cider (I remember vaguely swigging from a 2 and a half litre bottle of strongbow like it was lemonade: I think I may have drunk all if it).
*Not technically MDM but we're not here to debate genre semantics.
**Again, not really symph black, but...well, you know the score.
***Obscure as fuck so don't search too hard.
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1. Slipknot
2. Manson
3. Static-X
4. Slayer
5. Disturbed
6. System of a Down
7. Otep
8. Mudvayn
etc, etc...
Other stuff-
1. Nirvana
2. Bright Eyes
3. Nine Inch Nails
4. Decemberists
5. Afghan Whigs
- Slipknot - Quite possibly the single most hated band among cult metal fans, that said I don't mind them too much - I don't take most of what they did seriously, but I kind of dig their noisier moments and rhythm section. Slipknot fans who enjoy more than just their latest album may also be in with a shot of digging extreme metal and modern hardcore. Try Cryptopsy for starters. Maybe Carcass (Necrotism: Descanting The Insalubrious).
- System Of A Down - See above. If he likes more melodic nu-metal as well, Dark Tranquillity's Projector is worth the risk. Kind of like a metal Depeche Mode... Their new album Character is OK too, although Projector has some clean vocals unlike the all-growling Character.
- Slayer - Are great, as a thrash band I don't see anything wrong with 'em. Maybe try to get him into some of the 80s hardcore punk bands that influenced Slayer such as Minor Threat, and thrash that emerged later such as S.O.D. (Stormtroopers Of Death - Speak English Or Die). Celtic Frost were another thrash metal band, but with a bit of an experimental streak and more cult appeal. Morbid Tales anyone?
- Bright Eyes - I don't like Bright Eyes, and I really don't like the album Digital Ash In A Digital Urn, however on Digital Ash... they touch on a kind of music/mood that I often enjoy in what I do listen to. For more synth-driven music with simple rhythms and affected vocals try early Death In June (The Guilty Have No Pride, NADA!), the darker side of The Legendary Pink Dots (Asylum), and Tears For Fears (their first album, The Hurting). For more acoustic music by song-writers try The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Songs Of Leonard Cohen, and Current 93's Thunder Perfect Mind and you're off to a decent start with pretty obvious choices.
- Nine Inch Nails - I always liked them, they were one of my favourite bands back when I was just getting into music, but there is so much other music that one can get into through this group. Depeche Mode undoubtedly had a big influence on the early NIN sound, as is evident on Pretty Hate Machine - Violator is a safe bet, though obvious, if he hasn't heard that album already. Skinny Puppy's Cleanse Fold And Manipulate, Coil's Horse Rotorvator, and Ministry's The Land Of Rape And Honey are all essential 80s industrial/industrial metal albums that should be explored. As far as goth or goth-ish music is concerned, 90s Swans (The Great Annihilator) and The Virgin Prunes (If I Die, I Die) should also be investigated.
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Dude, this Hectorbitch knows his shit!
The Swans and Virgin Prunes are both great!
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That Lincoln Park band is pretty cool.
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Howabout that Corn band? Or that Puddle of Mud? I hear Limp Biscuits used to be pretty rad.
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limp scones as the french would say...
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Okay, Okay, Okay... now I must defend my best friend.
First off, he's not a poser... he just doesn't know any better. He's naive is all, that's why I'm here. We need to fix him.
Second, I kinda like Slipknot.
Third, yeah, his main basis for liking Otep is "the chick is way hot".
Fourth, he's not a poser! Seriously, he just doesn't know the good stuff exists. And, he doesn't really know he's a metalhead either... he's pretty far removed from that kind of stuff. But, boy, does he fit the sterotype.
Fifth, okay, yeah... I left out all the old school stuff he listens to. Metallica, AC/DC, Sabbath, etc... they're all there.
Edit - god damn it, my best friend sucks. Thanks guys, we'll fix him yet.
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Slipknot have some good drumming, and they can turn out a decent pop song when they turn their mind to it.
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Marilyn Manson was never metal. It was all strictly rock, with a bunch of electronics in it.
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if he likes the decemberists, then he 'AIGHT
(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)
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(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)
Leslie Anne Lavine.
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Marilyn Manson was never metal. It was all strictly rock, with a bunch of electronics in it.
I listen to white kids with guitars playing slapdash lo-fi pop songs about spatulas, I don't know these things.
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It's alright, we'll show you the errors of your ways. You will learn the joys of the darkside and such and such.
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(if 16 military wives is his favourite song then he should be shot)
Leslie Anne Lavine.
yeah!!!!!
if he likes decemberists get him to try Neutral Milk Hotel
(cmon! there are some comparisons! )
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The music police approve of your Dr. Thorpe references comrade! You shall be awarded the order of Jim Morrison, first class.
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It's alright, we'll show you the errors of your ways. You will learn the joys of the darkside and such and such.
Teach me, oh dark and alluring one.
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Listen to At The Gates. I like lo-fi pop and I think they're neat.
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Ahahahahha, so I showed my friend this thread. This is his response -
"Fuck all of you! You guys all need to get a life and let me listen to the music that makes me happy - or sad - however I want to feel at that given time. I don't tell you stupid ass holes what to listen to do I? No I don't. Because I am not like that. So fuck off, bitches."
So I typed the laughter before he told me what to say. That's not very funny, I think we really pissed him off.
He'll be better for it.
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Man, could he be more of a poser? You get a bunch of free music recs and laugh because you dont know them and are afraid of looking like a whiny Nu Metal bitch?
Kids today, no respect.
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He did this same thing when I linked him that article at Something Awful about TOOL.
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kids these days!?
I'm a mere 15 years old and am a fully quailfied indie snob!
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Yeah, see how badly your parents scarred you. You grew up to like Indie. You're now unable to like anything that isn't dull :P
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I'm afraid indie snobs are quite far down the snob pecking order. You're only just above black and power metal snobs, and a little below noise snobs (they get bonus points for being proper, full-on mentalists). But you can at least take comfort in the fact that you are far above electronica snobs... because those guys are just dull.
That's right, I'm a snob snob.
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I dont think it's possible to have Power Metal snobs. And BELOW Black Metal snobs? When Indie so wants to be as necro and as elitist but just doesn't have the balls to really :P
I need to become a full on Avant Garde snob, then I can look down on everyone.
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Trust me, you get power metal snobs. I've met one, and presumably there must be more. I imagine they rove in packs in mainland Europe. Black metal snobs lose points because they're too ridiculous to be taken seriously in the tough world of snob-land.
Of course, the supreme snob is the hardcore snob (although avant garde snobs do rank highly, just defeating the jazz snobs on account of their ability to claim to have transcended jazz), as we judge people not just on music but on every facet of their lives. Clothes, diet, drug consumption, politics, hair, even where you live... nothing is safe from the true hardcore snob. They're like the Jedis of snobbery.
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Apart from the Black Circle, who are harder than all snobs, for the whole "Well yes, but have you actually KILLED for the ideas of your music? Becuase I have" But then now most of them are looked up or no longer Kvlt enough.
But yes, Hardcore snobs pretty much take the cake when it comes to things like that. Hence why the 101 Rules of being Hardcore list is actually funny the first time you read it.
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Ah, but i can look down on all you people due to the fact that basically, 'It's just noise'
Like, dude, where's your soul man.....? whatever happened to love?
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No, we look down on you for not even having the most basiclly educated musical ear. And the fact you completely lack the understanding of anything beyond 3 chords and 4/4 hi hat/snare drumming.
Soul, love? We can say the same for Indie.
And before you say, Drone means we also get to look down on you for not being able to make good songs that are nothing more than one ultra distorted chord reverbed for 10 minutes.
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We love our vinyl, so long as it's oop.
And if you're a true hardcore snob then it is required that you listen to all the decent indie and metal bands anyway. There lies the path of true poserness.
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Love, love!? We have transcended love, balancing on a razor-edge between purest emotion and despair!
Or something. I don't get your point anyway, because there's plenty of metal songs about love.
But seriously, anyone who seriously suggests that any of the music I listen to is 'just noise' is on a hiding for a vicious argument or a beating (depending what mood I'm in and whether you're much larger/stronger than me).
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seriously, i was taking the piss.
In the end, i reckon i get to look down on you becasue of my personal belief that my music is better then yours.
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Yes, we noticed and responded in kind. While you reckon, we know ours is better.
And now everyone can take their tongues out of their cheeks and Khar can take his hand off my ass.
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Right on, lets just agree that the person that this thread is about has no musical taste, be it loud music or quiet music.
edit:apart from decemberists =/
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I need to become a full on Avant Garde snob, then I can look down on everyone.
Alright, I'm at the tip of the pecking order, bitches!
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Or something. I don't get your point anyway, because there's plenty of metal songs about love.
Of course! Like:
Cannibal Corpse - Meathook Sodomy
Torsofuck - Raped By Elephants
Fuck!.. I'm Dead - Fucking The Foetus
and who could forget..
Anal Cunt - I Became A Counselor So I Could Tell Rape Victims They Asked For It
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Pee Ess, why do you keep referring to indie as "soulless," Robbo? I'm sure Neko Case, Beck, and many, many others would probably not agree with you.
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I call it dull and boring. I never said "soulless", and the comment was clearly part of the tongue in cheek section.
Beck wouldn't have Soul if he was part of Motown. Again not totally serious, but I can't stand Beck. Black Metal has more soul to see. Singing of the Pagan/Viking history and the pride in it.
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Pride in burning, raping, pillaging, and starring in Gary Larson cartoons does not qualify as "soul."
I see, however, you were (as is politely termed) "taking the piss out of it." This works well.
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Yes, I will continue to take the piss out of Indie until I die. Because it's terrible. And because it's copying Black Metal trends (AStruge proved this, thank you very much before you start).
Singing about something they care about works for me though.
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Pride in burning, raping, pillaging, and starring in Gary Larson cartoons does not qualify as "soul."
Although you won't do it, I would like you to download 'Bathory - One Rode to Asa Bay', 'Forefather - Proud to be Proud' or 'Ancient Rites - (Ode to Ancient) Europa' and then say that.
As someone who counts pagan/folk/viking metal as probably their favourite musical genre, your generalisations really offend me. I mean, beyond the level of you not liking my music, I actually feel quite hurt.
Apologise to my ancestors, biatch.
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Sorry, Vikings!
Please don't sail to my country and kick its ass again!
P.S. Khar, if you had a totally legal way for me to find those songs that did not involve their purchase, that would be cool. Unfortunately anything in .mp3 format that I play on my computer effs up.
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I'll send you the Bathory when I send Smiley his hitchikers mp3s, after my art exam tomorrow.
Nerves nerves nerves.
...anyway, when the fuck did the Vikings pillage Canada?
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Heh, I have Norwegian heritage, and really that's only a step away from full on Viking.
Folk music of all sorts is pretty neat... but I'm unsure of that Finntroll you posted, good sir. Not that it's bad, just so far out of my comfort zone in music that it'll take a while to get used to.
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Finntroll shatters your comfort zone with their mighty Troll-hammers, then dances upon the pieces till the morning-light breaks bloody over the distant mountain peaks! Humpaa!
Warning: From now on, all posts carry the 'had too much coffee' disclaimer
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It didn't shatter it THAT hard! I'd say they danced until just a little before daybreak.
I'm listening to it now again.
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...anyway, when the fuck did the Vikings pillage Canada?
Like, 1000 AD or something like that. Real early, back when North America was discovered and christened "Vinland" shortly before the Vikings killed an entire race of Native Americans on, if I recall, Newfoundland.
P.S. Good luck on yer exam.
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Back to the point... all my best friends are metalheads.
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*cough*pseudohistory*cough*
No-one really knows where Vinland was, what happened to the Greenland settlers, or what they actually did to the natives.
But anyway, woo, Vikings nuked Canada! Woo!
I would like to point out that I'm only descended from the Vikings distantly through my Norman ancestry. I'm more Anglo-Saxon with a broad Celtic streak. They have metal for that too ^_^ Go metal!
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Eh whatever. The Vikings burninated lots of people, I'll just assume Canadians were some of them. I mean, you know it's possible.
Is there anybody who DOESN'T have metal?
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I've not heard of Native North American metal, or Chinese Metal. African metal's at a bit of a dearth too, most countries only have one or two bands. Indian (Vedic) and Japanese metal are two suprising ones though. Few things beat the wierdness of Sigh's 'Victory of Dakini' or Abigail's 'Hail Yakuza'
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I know Native North American metal exists. I have been exposed to it.
Just think of derivative, bad metal wif tribal drums in. I didn't write down the band's name.
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I had a friend like that, who just liked fairly bad mainstream metal... got him into Acid Bath and from there he progressed nicely into "better" metal, and into some other decent stuff like Marcy Playground, Sublime, and Bob Marley. Start with just some basic alternative stuff that nearly everyone loves like Cake.
And I don't know anyone who likes the Decemberists that doesn't like the Postal Service... nearly everyone can appreciate them.
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Gotta agree with the rest of em, he needs to listen to real metal.
My recommendations:
See what genre of metal he likes, some may adore power metal but can't stand black metal.
Anywhoo.
Thrash:
Slayer
Kreator
Metallica (black album-era)
Celtic Frost (Not thrash, but its the closest thing)
Death:
Vehemence
Cryptopsy
Necrophagist
Strapping Young Lad
Gorgasm
Gorguts
Vormitory
Black:
Windir
Naglfar
Old Man's Child (Post-melodic black, but close enough)
Rotting Christ
Emperor
Darkthrone
Melo-Death:
In Flames (Older albums, avoid new shit)
Dark Tranquility
Arsis
Arch Enemy
Grind (and numerous sub-sub-genres):
Exhumed
Fuck...I'm Dead
Napalm Death
Pig Destroyer
Extreme Noise Terror
Metalcore (Not metal, but many metalheads enjoy it):
Trivium
Rifles at Recess
Into Eternity
Avenged Sevenfold (Its my guilty pleasure, I love these guys for some reason)
Power:
Iced Earth
Man'o'War
Dragonforce
Children of Bodom
Blind Guardian
There ya go :D.
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This thread always on sight will get either All my friends are metalheads by Less then Jake or Blame it on God by Deicide stuck in my head. Sometimes both at the same time.
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lol.
I love anti-christian music, but Deicide are just so childish...
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It's really the only song I've heard by them. It seems that when ever I am in the mood for anything metal I never have any on me.
Ah crap, I think I just missed Motorhead with Zeke opening last weekend.
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Windir
I love you
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lol.
I love anti-christian music, but Deicide are just so childish...
Yeah, but they have such catchy tunes!
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I love you
I love you too, baby.
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lol.
I love anti-christian music, but Deicide are just so childish...
Hah, childish? Nooo...
Bible Basher
Bible Basher
Bible Basher
Who is your god?
Ram your religion so far up your ass
Till it becomes just a thing of the past
Trample the cross and you cave into hate
Bible basher I'm destroying your faith
Blasphemous and vicious as I'm ripping you from head to toe
There are those who wish you'd leave them the fuck alone
In your face I spit to contradict your lord's integrity
Time to admit, you are swimming in fantasy
In a fit of rate, Satanic ways you will be crucified
Bound and determined, your savior will die
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My best friend adores Ashlee Simpson.
The most "coolest" music I could get her to listen to was The Darkness and recent White Stipes. I'm talking Hardest Button to Button Here.
:. I win.
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Kill her, and dump hewr body in a ditch.