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Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: So_Effing_l33t on 11 May 2005, 19:49
I don't know if a post like this has already been made, and I hope not...but I still feel it should be voiced: What is it with this War of the Music goin' on?

In Questionable Content, I love how the characters (such as Dora/Faye) sort of play around or mock each other for their musical backround. When they do it, its funny. When a crazy metalhead guy and an emo kid get into a tiffy about it...it suddenly looses its comedic factor, and raises sort of a...."WTF?" factor.

I guess you could say Im a musically...diverse...person, and so I really take no side on any argument. Maybe because I dont care to get into fights and arguments, or maybe I just know better...but its getting out of hand.

Its always... 'RAP IS SO GAY!' 'METAL IS SO STUPID!' 'EMO SUCKS!' etc, etc (Not being mean to anyone on here, obviosuly if you read QC you must have some sense in you, lol)....why cant we all get along? Humanity will never have the same taste....ever. Its nature. So why fight over it? if you dont like it, change the station or skip the song or whatever...but it doesn't have to grow into these musical 'hatecrimes', if you will.

Maybe its just me ranting, but does anyone else have a take  on this?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: SalsaShark on 11 May 2005, 20:46
I also am musically diverse, and I say "Can't we all just get along?" too ^__^. Does that make me like a music hippie?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: El Opium on 11 May 2005, 21:13
I find it inevitable. I try to be fair but to me there are certain kinds of music that just suck. There are others I'm neutral on that I just don't accept as being the genre for me.At the same time I know there are a good number of people out there who think what I like is stupid/sucks.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 11 May 2005, 21:18
I agree that everybody has their own opinion, but I happen to think that there is certainly a type of "hierarchy" in music (classical music being on top, of course)

What I listen to falls somewhere in the upper-middle, but thankfully above most other people's musical tastes.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Addius on 11 May 2005, 23:30
I'd say that it could be because certain genres doesn't really rely on a great musical talent. I'm not saying musical talent can't be diverse but it seems it isn't always needed in mainstream, which I find rather sad.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: jeremy on 11 May 2005, 23:40
Musical taste is, of course, entirely subjective. It's silly to pretend otherwise. Just the same, I won't pretend to like something I think sucks. I just don't pretend that my taste is inherently better than anyone else's. So I don't feel that everyone should get along. That's boring. But listening to another punk argue about how metal is "wanky", or another metalhead complain about how punk bands are "not talented" is pretty damned boring, too. The same old arguments over and over again.

I try not to stick up for any one genre since their definitions vary so greatly that there's really no point. If I tell someone I like folk or punk or industrial or whatever else, they're going to think of it in whatever context makes sense to them based on a million different cultural factors that are probably not even relevant to me, so what's the use? I figure the best I can do is say "hey, here's some music I do/don't like, and here's why." Then at least I've said my peace, and hopefully whatever got through to the other person was more than just "EMO SUCKS/RULES/IS AN EXCUSE TO WEAR STUPID LOOKING GLASSES THAT AREN'T PRESCRIBED TO YOU." I too am tired of that level of discourse (though it is fun sometimes, isn't it?). Love or hate whatever you want, but at least have some reasons at the ready, because someone is inevitably going to try to convince you to change your mind.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 May 2005, 23:47
I don't have to justify myself! Metal r00lz, other genres dr00lz!!!1!
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: pistachio on 12 May 2005, 00:52
I kind of agree with Jeremy, its all relative...

But yeah.. it sucks how people can't just accept that you like what you like, and thats all there is to it, different people have diffent taste. Its the same with Say, food, but no one ever tells me that if I dont eat tomatoes then I will go to hell... even though it may very well be true
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: So_Effing_l33t on 12 May 2005, 02:49
Finally, people who understand! ^_^

Jeremy made a kaboom-a-boom damn good statement...Im not alone in the world...
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: sketchyjoe on 12 May 2005, 09:13
Most of the people who say punk/emo/rap sucks don't have any idea of the genre they're talking about.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Robbo on 12 May 2005, 09:16
We've been through that. Mainly on Metal and Rap...but certainly the other two as well, I'm sure.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: mooface on 12 May 2005, 15:02
I completely agree with you on that.  In fact I was going to make a post about this, but I was too lazy and you beat me to the punch, anyways ;)
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Hoborg on 12 May 2005, 15:37
Polka totally fucking sucks. SCREW ALL YOU POLKA LOVERS!

RAR! Flamed!
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Kai on 12 May 2005, 15:59
If you're going to flame, you can't flame the best musicaly genre ever to walk the Earth.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 12 May 2005, 16:08
Quote from: Hoborg
Polka totally fucking sucks. SCREW ALL YOU POLKA LOVERS!

RAR! Flamed!


=The ill-thought-out post of someone who thinks no-one hear likes polka.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Hoborg on 12 May 2005, 16:24
Well, not anymore, I bet. That flame would have just been too much for them.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Revenge_Therapist on 12 May 2005, 16:35
Listen
The inetrnet was inevnted so Sci-Fi geeks can trade porn fanfic to back and forth over hundreds of miles. The internet was created so paranoid extremnists could create a news site that tells them exactly what they want to hear every day. The internet was created so i can recieve a hundred offers a day about the size of my johnson. And finally the internet was created so i can tell all of you that my record collection is way cooler than yours.
 so nah.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: zekterellium on 13 May 2005, 13:44
what if all music sucks and we are ALL idiots?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Revenge_Therapist on 13 May 2005, 13:51
that's kind of what I was getting at.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: zekterellium on 13 May 2005, 13:53
awesome
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 13 May 2005, 17:13
Musics funner tghan many things.

Particularly things involving weasels. I can't think of anything with weasels thats funner than a good album.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 13 May 2005, 18:41
How long do you reckon it'll be until there's a weasel-fronted grind band?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: So_Effing_l33t on 13 May 2005, 20:13
I saw one with a badger for a bassist. Best damn show in my life...but it kinda got outta hand when he latched his jaw onto the frontman's crotch....

But a weasel-fronted GRIND band? Never. Maybe Skaa...but not GRIND.

Get wit' da' times!
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: zekterellium on 14 May 2005, 07:42
khar, haven't you ever seen animals of farthing wood? weasel was the greatest charecter, damn it. and weasels in bands? what about dizzee rascal?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Revenge_Therapist on 14 May 2005, 07:47
ben weasel.:)
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: normz on 14 May 2005, 07:49
weasels scare me, i bet their all plotting to take over the world before i do DAMMIT
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Revenge_Therapist on 14 May 2005, 08:09
Well they said they wanted a band fronted by a weasel.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 May 2005, 08:53
Apparently...

The best I can think of in that way are Crotchduster, who have a dog on backing vocals and ostensibly doing the drums (actually a drum machine).
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: kikanjuuneko on 14 May 2005, 10:16
Surely you cannot forget about Caninus (http://www.pitbullgrindcore.com/caninus/) and Hatebeak (http://www.blacktable.com/dorfman040906.htm)?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 10:33
Caninus needs to die.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 14 May 2005, 10:36
Ah, I quite like them and Hatebeak. More fun than Crotchduster anyway.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 10:50
Hatebeak doesn't bother me.. but I don't think it's "good" either.  The bird just sounds like a guy making screeching noises anyway.

Caninus I just hate because they're all militant vegan pussies.

"Animals Have A Voice!"  Give me a fucking break.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: jeremy on 14 May 2005, 10:54
But they do. That's why you have their voice boxes removed.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 11:01
Quote from: jeremy
But they do. That's why you have their voice boxes removed.


Or buy them high-voltage shock collars :)
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 14 May 2005, 11:05
I was just on their website, and although they're promoting veganism I couldn't find anything even remotely 'militant' there. Is it in the lyrics? And the line 'It has come time really to allow the animals to have their say' seems fairly tongue-in-cheek to me.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 14:52
Perhaps militant was the wrong word then.

I still don't like them because, in my humble opinion, grindcore about veganism is fucking gay.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: blindsuperhero on 14 May 2005, 14:53
Homosexuals are gay.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 May 2005, 18:18
Quote from: a pack of wolves
More fun than Crotchduster anyway.


Nothing is more fun than Crotchduster.

Surprising amounts of grind is about Veganism, but I greatly prefer it when a grind band makes it vegan protest by, say, writing a song about grinding people into hamburger meat and bathing in their fluids or drowning in cum.

'Chunk Blower' and 'Bukkake Tsunami' by Cattle Decapitation, respectively.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 14 May 2005, 18:41
I do like a bit of the old Cattle Decapitation. But then again I've been known to sing along loudly when Propagandhi sing 'meat is still murder, dairy is still rape' even though I don't really agree. I just like a good veggie anthem.

Many, many things are more fun than Crotchduster Khar. What about Send More Paramedics? 245 Trioxin!
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 May 2005, 18:45
Quote from: a pack of wolves

Many, many things are more fun than Crotchduster Khar. What about Send More Paramedics? 245 Trioxin!


SMP are just a whacky theme band. Everyone's got whacky theme bands. I've heard Klingon black metal, and Ninja power metal. But it takes muchos skills to write a good song about anal sex. It takes even more skills to have this song traverse five musical genres and have someone chanting "BOBA FETT, BOBA FETT, VADER AND BOBA FETT" over and over. And don't even get me on to Big Fat Box of Shit's concept.

235 Trioxin I haven't heard.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 14 May 2005, 18:54
Yeah, the Paramedics are nothing more than a jokey theme band. But a good one nonetheless and '245 Trioxin' was probably their best tune, had a great gang chorus thing going on.

Crotchduster definitely have some musical skill going on, I won't argue there. But for me the songs just aren't coherent because of all that genre-skipping, and although they gave me a chuckle the first time I heard them the novelty wore off fast.

Ninja power metal? You have to tell me who those guys are!
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 May 2005, 19:04
NINJA MAGIC (http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=27360)

Cheesiest band in the UNIVERSE. Full on upbeat power metal guitar, catchy choruses, singer has a swedish accent up to his armpits. Have ninja stage names and always perform in full ninja gear. Their use of sampling from badly dubbed ninja films s, literally, jaw-dropping. At one point I went round all day answering every question that was asked me with "FOR I AM A NINJA TERMINATOR" and randomly threatening people "IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO SUFFER THE WRATH OF THE NINJA, THEN GIVE BACK OUR GOLDEN NINJA WARRIOR!"
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: niatinari on 14 May 2005, 19:20
Oh that's too great.  Another band I may need to investigate.... @_@
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 19:24
Ninja Magic is sooo bad.  It's really hard to listen to despite being theoretically awesome on paper.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: niatinari on 14 May 2005, 19:41
But are they so bad that they go beyond bad back into the realm of good is what I want to know, because there are some really craptastic things that I love just because of how awful they are....

The soundtrack from six string samurai falls in this category.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 May 2005, 19:46
Quote from: niatinari
But are they so bad that they go beyond bad back into the realm of good is what I want to know, because there are some really craptastic things that I love just because of how awful they are....


That is pretty much them, tbh.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 14 May 2005, 19:46
Definitely so bad it's good! Cheers Khar.
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: Signum_Tenebrae on 14 May 2005, 22:15
I know what you guys are getting at..  so bad it's good. . but. .

I don't know, I just can't take it.  haha
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: happybirthdaygelatin on 14 May 2005, 23:43
Quote
It takes even more skills to have this song traverse five musical genres and have someone chanting "BOBA FETT, BOBA FETT, VADER AND BOBA FETT"


Woah, who does this and if possible please provide a link to yet please again?
Title: War of the MUSIC!
Post by: a pack of wolves on 15 May 2005, 01:07
Crotchduster (http://www.crotchduster.com/), the aforementioned ridiculous band. There are mp3s on the site.