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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: JJMitchell on 09 Jun 2005, 11:00
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So, being a complete indy n00b, was wondering if there is a list somewhere that people would recommend for listening.
I'm cheap and don't like buying CDs, so I'm looking just for those albums that people would definitely recommend.
Now I know that there is no definitive list, but if enough people say 'You HAVE to listen to this' I'll do it.
Also, isn't this totally not indy? I shoot! I score!
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There is a big button saying
'Recommended Listening'
On the main page
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recommended listening is indeed a good place to look. of those i think arcade fire-funeral is one of the best :-)
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Dang how did I miss that?
Probably distracted by the sweet comic today.
*slap* :)
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I'm not sure that they're at all the same thing. I don't consider the Recommended Listening page as a list of the essential indie albums that everyone should have heard, especially as I think all of the records on there were released in the last 5 or so years
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Hmm, okay how about the older albums?
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Give me a few minutes, and I'll get back to you
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Actually there are far too many good albums, and in any case I don't know anything about indie music.
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Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls And Marches
Slint - Spiderland
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
The Replacements - Let It Be
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
All those are considered fairly essential 'indie' albums by a lot of people, and as good a place to start as any other.
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Keep it Like a Secret - Built to Spill
Emergency & I - The Dismemberment Plan
Source Tags & Codes - And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain - Pavement
The Moon and Antarctica - Modest Mouse
Funeral - Arcade Fire
Mind is Not Brain - Mock Orange
Something About Airplanes - Death Cab for Cutie
Turn on the Bright Lights - Interpol
Mellow Gold - Beck
Relationship for Command - At the Drive-In
Deloused in the Commatorium - The Mars Volta
I'd recommend Frances the Mute (TMV), but it might be too much for someone just starting out.
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Don't listen to them! Follow your own path! USE THE FORCE LUKE!
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The extreme irony in your post arouses me. :P
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I second the recommendation of psychocandy and crooked rain, crooked rain...pure awesomeness. Also the following:
Air - Moon Safari
The Decemberists - Picaresque
The Dresden Dolls- S/t
Elliott Smith - Either/Or
Any album by The Mountain Goats
Any other Pavement album
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I don't consider the Recommended Listening page as a list of the essential indie albums that everyone should have heard, especially as I think all of the records on there were released in the last 5 or so years
Agreed. Not only that, but also it is biased by Jeph's personal tastes. Not to say his personal tastes are bad, but he does leave off some stuff I'd consider essential.
A good example would be the Velvet Underground. There is no excuse for liking indie music and not listening to VU at least once or twice. NO excuse. AT ALL. WHATSOEVER. VU are brilliant, they are catchy, and they pretty much set the stage for everyone, everyone, EVERYONE in the entire genre. Jeph's excuse that he "doesn't listen to anything more than 10 years old because there's so much good stuff out now already" doesn't really cut it in my book. I still listen to stuff like Coltrane and the Duke and various classical (especially the Russian composers...Tchaikovsky brought the rock more than most indie bands, for example) and that's definitely older than a decade. There's nothing wrong with going out and picking up a classic album like Piper at the Gates of Dawn or Velvet Underground and Nico just because it came out more than a decade ago. Please. Songs about gnomes and heroin and bikes are all the rage...why not go back and listen to the masters?
Also, there are albums Jeph just doesn't like that he doesn't include. At the Drive In's Relationship of Command and The Mars Volta's Deloused in the Comatorium are both what I would consider essential even if you don't like that sort of thing. I would probably have to include the Decemberists or The Postal Service on an essentials list even though I don't really like either band. Similarly, ATDI and TMV are essential parts of the current music scene even if you don't like them (well, ATDI less so, now that they broke up, but certainly TMV).
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Also, I dunno how big they are in the indie acene, but I've been hearing a lot about the Black Keys lately, from folks who are pretty involved in the scene. Also, I think they're awesome. So, definitely...
The Black Keys - Rubber Factory
If you like rock or you like blues or you like any combination of the two, you will love these guys. They bring the sex like Hendrix did once upon a time.
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I don't consider the Recommended Listening page as a list of the essential indie albums that everyone should have heard, especially as I think all of the records on there were released in the last 5 or so years
Agreed. Not only that, but also it is biased by Jeph's personal tastes. Not to say his personal tastes are bad, but he does leave off some stuff I'd consider essential.
A good example would be the Velvet Underground. There is no excuse for liking indie music and not listening to VU at least once or twice. NO excuse. AT ALL. WHATSOEVER. VU are brilliant, they are catchy, and they pretty much set the stage for everyone, everyone, EVERYONE in the entire genre. Jeph's excuse that he "doesn't listen to anything more than 10 years old because there's so much good stuff out now already" doesn't really cut it in my book. I still listen to stuff like Coltrane and the Duke and various classical (especially the Russian composers...Tchaikovsky brought the rock more than most indie bands, for example) and that's definitely older than a decade. There's nothing wrong with going out and picking up a classic album like Piper at the Gates of Dawn or Velvet Underground and Nico just because it came out more than a decade ago. Please. Songs about gnomes and heroin and bikes are all the rage...why not go back and listen to the masters?
Also, there are albums Jeph just doesn't like that he doesn't include. At the Drive In's Relationship of Command and The Mars Volta's Deloused in the Comatorium are both what I would consider essential even if you don't like that sort of thing. I would probably have to include the Decemberists or The Postal Service on an essentials list even though I don't really like either band. Similarly, ATDI and TMV are essential parts of the current music scene even if you don't like them (well, ATDI less so, now that they broke up, but certainly TMV).
*high-fives for intense awesomeness*
VU is essential to EVERYONE. It's a shame that so many people don't know of them. "OMG IS TAT VELVET REVOLVER?"
*SMACK* - 99999 damage, bitch. :P
Anyway, I would have picked those two, but since he was just starting out...
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Also, just FYI. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is early Pink Floyd (prior to when Syd Barret left and recorded his solo stuff, then turned into an orange). Piper and Ummamagumma are great. Also, so is Barret's solo stuff, like Saucerful of Secrets.
Just FYI, you know.
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Meh, listen to VU and never saw what the big deal was. Now Mission to Burma I'd say is more essential listening then anything to do with ol' cadaver Lou.
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I like Piper, but Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon were brilliant albums. No matter how "overrated" people may say DSotM is, it's still great.
I never liked Syd barrett.
"I HAVE A BIKE
I RUN IT UP A PIKE"
Lame. :P
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Pink floyd is awesome, but i wouldnt call them indie. they also came out with some good stuff after Roger Waters left.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say they were indie either. They were too popular. ;D
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Pink floyd is awesome, but i wouldnt call them indie. they also came out with some good stuff after Roger Waters left.
Their early stuff is pretty much identical to a lot of current indie stuff. They became epic psychadelic only with Meddle.
Also, every Pink Floyd album after The Wall pretty much sucked. Whether the Wall sucked is debatable, but I'd have to argue that it probably did.
Their best album was Animals, hands down.
But, back to indie essentials...
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Meh, listen to VU and never saw what the big deal was. Now Mission to Burma I'd say is more essential listening then anything to do with ol' cadaver Lou.
I'd say they're pretty essential listening given their influence, whether or not you actually like them. Personally I don't really rate Psychocandy, but it is something of an indie classic and a very influential record, so I thought I'd include it as a recommendation.
But for something I do love, let's delve a little into the side of hardcore that was most influential on indie rock:
Fugazi - Red Medicine
Shellac - At Action Park
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
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Here's what I recommend. Pick up as many label samplers and odd compliations you can find. You'll find cool bands that way. Don't worry about genere and some wil indeed suck, but at least then you found it all on your own. Either that or listen to apackofwolves.
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A bit of a change-up:
Eels - Electro-shock Blues
Radiohead - O.K. Computer (not indy, just amazing)
The Sugarplastic - Bang, The Earth Is Round
The New Pornographers - Electric Version
Ambulance Ltd. - Ambualnce Ltd.
Spoon - Telephono (extremely rare, but it's the first album of it's type of brash, staticy post rock that a helluva lotta bands have started ripping off)
Pinback - Blue Screen Life
The Violent Femmes - The Violent Femmes
Many more... but these are all terrific.
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The Residents - Meet The Residents, Third Reich N' Roll, Eskimo, Not Available, Fingerprince, Commercial Album, Freak Show, Wormwood, Animal Lover.
Frank Zappa - Apostrophe* is a good place to start.
Captain Beefheart - Anything but Bluejeans and Moonbeams and Unconditionally Guarenteed.
Not indie, but it's better than all indie music combined and multiplied by 6.
Also:
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?t=5784
We already had this, and it's not that far away.
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I'd definitely say go with The Dismemberment Plan's Emergency & I. First indie album I had ever listened to, and just got HOOKED. It has such amazing lasting value. It's catchy lively enough to get into and still quite different than what would one find on the radio. Hmm how would one call them? "Emo?" =P They have that ocassional self-pitying lyric but they are not like RAWR I AM DEPRESSED, and have more upbeat music. I can't describe it well, there's just something so fascinating about them like they have the essence of a 20 something year old's life encapsulated into a little disc full of the dejection, the excitement, the lust, and the wonders of it all. It's gorgeous.
Tracks to check out from that album: You Are Invited, Spider in the Snow, A Life of Possibilities.
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Buy these, in this order:
1. The Velvet Underground & Nico
2. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
3. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
4. Can - Tago Mago
5. The Stooges - Fun House
6. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
7. David Bowie - Hunky Dory
8. Scott Walker - Scott 4
9. Faust - Faust/So Far
10. Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
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Slayer - Reign in Blood
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Judas Priest - British Steel
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
Venom - Black Metal
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Oh wait! That's not an indie li...
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Shh! maybe they won't notice!
Personally I prefer Sabbath's Sabbath Bloody Sabbath over anything they did. Although Powerslave rocks my socks.
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Holy crap thats alot.
Thanks for the input folks.
Keep em coming!
I've actually heard some from some of those bands but I'd love to expand my experience more.
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don't forget the GBV. indie kids love that drunken bastard, bob pollard.
"Under the Bushes, Under the Stars" was a pretty damn cool album.
the first time i saw guided by voices, there were cases of budweiser snaking their way through the crowd to be delivered to the band. i think bob was responsible for at least one of those cases being drunk during the set.
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Phill Niblock - Young Person's Guide to Phill Niblock
Masonna - Frequency LSD
Autechre - Gantz Graf
William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops
Kneale.Francis.Milton - Hiss Methodologies
Sunn 0))) - White-1
That's all accessible, entry-level, upbeat sing-along indie pop. All of it.
Seriously.
Not really. Instead, I second (thrid?) At the Drive-in - Relationship of Command. Jeph hates it, but that's because sometimes Jeph is a bad, bad man.
I'd do more, but i figure if I just plug one, there's more chance you'll check it out. Big lists are very intimidating.
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Slayer - Reign in Blood
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Judas Priest - British Steel
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
Venom - Black Metal
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Entombed - Left Hand Path
No Priest? :D
Vol. 4 is probably as good as Paranoid too, worth a listen.
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And I'm probably alone on this, but I really liked Master of Reality. Every sabbath fan I've met has either A. Never listened to it or B. Hates it with a passion. I don't know why.
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***CAUTION - DANGER - EMO ALERT***
The Getup Kids - 4 Minute Mile
This is the pinnicale of "emotional hardcore" ala "Emo", and dispite whatever labels you want to apply to it, it is an all around incredible album.
I will say nothing of the rest of their catolog.
/end Emo
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anything by cursive, far or rival schools will kill all music you've ever heard before. completely and utterly awesome. also slowdive, swervedriver, eels, appleseed cast and sounds like violence make beauitul music in one way or another.
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The Getup Kids are playing their final show about ten minutes from my home. Bastards.
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anything by cursive, far or rival schools will kill all music you've ever heard before. completely and utterly awesome. also slowdive, swervedriver, eels, appleseed cast and sounds like violence make beauitul music in one way or another.
I echo the sentiments about Cursive.
Rival Schools is also fun.
I wish to vastly expand the recommendation of Far to "Anything Jonah Matranga has ever done". Check out Far, New End Original, onelinedrawing, and his new (and super awesome) project, Gratitude.
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***CAUTION - DANGER - EMO ALERT***
The Getup Kids - 4 Minute Mile
This is the pinnicale of "emotional hardcore" ala "Emo", and dispite whatever labels you want to apply to it, it is an all around incredible album.
I will say nothing of the rest of their catolog.
/end Emo
Much as I do like that record and Something To Write Home About. if we're talking emo that's not the essentials. These are:
Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Moss Icon - discography
Embrace - Embrace
Track down some of The Hated if you can, I heard Troubleman might do a discog sometime but god knows when that'll surface and all their records are not only out of press but ebay gold.
Matranga has the same problem as Schreifels in that both of them have been in steadily worse bands all their lives. So Far and Gorilla Biscuits are essentials, New End Original and Project X are good but you don't need anything after that (okay, maybe Quicksand for Schreifels). Particularly not Gratitude or whatever that godawful new thing Schreifels is peddling is called. Walking Concert maybe? Whatever, they're bad, avoid. Listen to Start Today a lot instead, and remember the days when he had talent.
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anything by cursive, far or rival schools will kill all music you've ever heard before. completely and utterly awesome. also slowdive, swervedriver, eels, appleseed cast and sounds like violence make beauitul music in one way or another.
holy crap i forgot swervedriver even existed until i saw this. mezcal head is the album to get.
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Matranga has the same problem as Schreifels in that both of them have been in steadily worse bands all their lives. So Far and Gorilla Biscuits are essentials, New End Original and Project X are good but you don't need anything after that (okay, maybe Quicksand for Schreifels). Particularly not Gratitude or whatever that godawful new thing Schreifels is peddling is called. Walking Concert maybe? Whatever, they're bad, avoid. Listen to Start Today a lot instead, and remember the days when he had talent.
*GASP* Allow me to disagree vehemently over the inner nets! While I will agree that New End Original isnt Jonahs best work (though a number of his best songs, including "14-41" and "Hostage" came from this period), onelinedrawing is the Pinnicle of the jonah experience, as it is just him and R2D2 on stage. If you havent seen Jonah solo, you have not lived.
BUT!
I really cannot grasp how you could say Gratitude is not good. I mean really, I am dumbfounded. I am not one to argue with one about their own personal taste in music, but really the only thing i can think of is that you are a fan of Far, and not Jonah Matranga (in which case, have you checked out Shaun Lopez' new project, The Revolution Smile?). Gratitude is, in my opinion, Jonahs best work to date. Comparing Gratitude to Far musically is just stupid, cause thats like comparing Apples to Quanum Probability Theory, but in regards to Jonah and his singing and songwriting, I think he is just as good, if not better, than he was in the Far era.
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holy crap i forgot swervedriver even existed until i saw this. mezcal head is the album to get.
good call. and honestly, i know it's a personal thing but united by fate by rival schools is in my top five albums ever, it's completely immense and wonderful. best post-hardcore band ever.
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My friend said he wanted to show me a really hideous video by some band on Launch, and that they apparently had some big emo scenester in them. The video started up, and I was just saying that whoever this guy was he could never have been in anything good to make such bad cooker-cutter pop-rock when he said it was "some guy called Jonah Matranga"... I mean, Onelinedrawing, I didn't think that was much cop but I certainly never cringed at the thought of them. But Gratitude's a whole new level of predictable and bad. Not comparable to Far in terms of style, I agree, but in terms of quality... sorry, but he's just sunk to a massive new low for me with this one.
But hey, Tin Cans With Strings To You. Not everyone gets to write a record that good, so it's not like the guy's wasted his life.
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Judas Priest - British Steel
No Priest? :D
Duuuuuuh
Master of Reality is great. Hell, Children of the Grave is probably my favourite Sabbath song with Ozzy on vocals.
Also, Jesus wept, but I don't know what you people see in Cursive. The best Cursive song I ever heard was a 6/10 in the style (Forced Listening thread on another forum. Some dude set them THREE TIMES). Not really a good band imo, but then I don't really like any of that cra...stuff.
Also, I think everyone in the world should own 'Speak English or Die' by Stormtroopers of Death. Even if they totally hate metal. And 'Chemical Invasion' by Tankard. I mean, fucking hell, the title track is a call for the purity of German Beer! What more could you want?
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And the intro to Children of the Grave, Embryo, is awesome.
*Goes and looks up metal about German Beer*
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I'd say they're pretty essential listening given their influence, whether or not you actually like them.
Food for thought. (http://www.wapsisquare.com/d/20030718.html)
Also
The Classical Greeks were not influenced by the Classical Greeks. DO NOT CIRCULATE!
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That's a nonsequitur and you know it. To understand what makes a band innovative or new or whatever, you need to know where they're coming from. Most music is just a simulacrum or a simulacrum of a simulacrum. So you should be at least familiar with the early stuff, even if you don't like it. I'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm saying that you should be familiar with it if you want to be knowledgeable about music.
And Tchaikovsky was a rock star. Dude brought cannons for the 1812 overture. Tell me that's not fucking metal right there.
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Or others can like what they like sans ostentation and that's okay with me and others can enjoy their ostentation and that's okay with me.
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I'd definitely say go with The Dismemberment Plan's Emergency & I. First indie album I had ever listened to, and just got HOOKED. It has such amazing lasting value. It's catchy lively enough to get into and still quite different than what would one find on the radio. Hmm how would one call them? "Emo?" =P They have that ocassional self-pitying lyric but they are not like RAWR I AM DEPRESSED, and have more upbeat music. I can't describe it well, there's just something so fascinating about them like they have the essence of a 20 something year old's life encapsulated into a little disc full of the dejection, the excitement, the lust, and the wonders of it all. It's gorgeous.
Tracks to check out from that album: You Are Invited, Spider in the Snow, A Life of Possibilities.
*hugs*
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Or others can like what they like sans ostentation and that's okay with me and others can enjoy their ostentation and that's okay with me.
This is like saying "I like punk but I've never heard of the Clash." You don't have to like them, but you damned well ought to know them. This thread isn't "name your favorite album." It is "name important indie rock must-haves." Just as The Clash should be on any punk must-have list, VU should be on an indie must-have list. End of story.
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Hang on, did someone just say The Get Up Kids were the pinnacle of Emotional Hardcore? I doubt the Get Up Kids have ever been near any hardcore in their life!
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If that's hardcore, ATDI is a rock covered with a chocolate shell.
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Hang on, did someone just say The Get Up Kids were the pinnacle of Emotional Hardcore? I doubt the Get Up Kids have ever been near any hardcore in their life!
Actually, their keyboard player was the drummer from Coalesce and the two bands once released a split together where they covered each other's songs. Damn good record that, probably the best track the Get Up Kids ever recorded. But yeah, they're more indie emo pop sort of stuff (my, what a snappy genre name I've come up with) than emo hardcore.
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uhh... erm... well, I think rather than throw myself into this particular ring, I'll just get back to music suggestions :P
Death From Above 1979 - You're a Woman, I'm A Machine
Metric - Old World Underground, Where Are You Now?
any Coheed And Cambria (or Shabutie, the eponymous EP of the band that later changed its name to Coheed and Cambria), for the requisite prog bit (TMV having already been mentione, by sp2 I think)
Hot Hot Heat - Make Up The Breakdown
agreeing with others, I am here... Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn (or A Saucerful of Secrets... or both :))
Iron And Wine - Woman King EP
that should do, when combined with all the other good suggestions
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Actually, their keyboard player was the drummer from Coalesce and the two bands once released a split together where they covered each other's songs.
That's the craziest thing I've heard all day!
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I was pretty damn surprised when I heard it too. Apparently they're all really good friends.
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Older stuff that I find somewhat essential:
Lush - Spooky or Split (I'd actually argue that Gala, the compilation of the first two EP's, is still their strongest material, but both of these are a bit more accessible).
The Stone Roses - Self-Titled
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
Pizzicato Five - Made in U.S.A.
Ride - Nowhere
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas
Daydream Nation certainly represents some of the best of Sonic Youth. I might argue for Sister over Daydream, but it'd be close.
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I don't like this thread one iota.
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Yeah, I like being told how I'm suppose to enjoy things. I like thinking for my self like everyone else.
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Pick up as many label samplers and odd compliations you can find. You'll find cool bands that way. Don't worry about genere and some wil indeed suck...
Best advice I've seen here.
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Modest Mouse -- The Moon & Antarctica
Cursive -- The Storms of Early Summer: Semantics of Song
Pixies -- Doolittle
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Surfer Rosa is cooler than Doolittle.
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But hey, Tin Cans With Strings To You. Not everyone gets to write a record that good, so it's not like the guy's wasted his life.
Since I already used an ironic "fighting over the internet" joke, let's move on to the mature "agree to disagree" stage of our relationship (I know, I know, I'm a horrible hipster, I should be calling you names and shit).
However, I definitly agree about Tin Cans. It's a freaking tremendous album. Definitly a highlight of Jonahs career.
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In The Aisle Yelling is boss.
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Neutral Milk Hotel-whatever album has 'everything' on it, i forgot what it's called
hot hot heat-fuck i can never remember album names
deerhoof-apple o
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Bright Eyes - Lifted, Or: The Story Is In The Soil, Keep Your Ear To The Ground
Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
The Arcade Fire - Funeral
Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
The Books - Lost And Safe
Death Cab For Cutie - The Photo Album
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Cursive -The Ugly Organ
Radiohead - Kid A
Appleseed Cast - Low Level Owl: vl. 1
M83 - Before The Dawn Heals Us
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
Brand New - Deja Entendu
Phantom Planet - Phantom Planet
Snowglobe - Our Land Brains
The Brunettes - Mars Loves Venus
The Russian Futurists - Let's Get Ready To Crumble
The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Space Robots
Built To Spill - There's Nothing Wrong With Love
The Detroit Cobras - Love, Life, And Leaving
Pretty Girls Make Graves - The New Romance
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
The Human Television - The Human Television
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No no no no NO.
Something About Airplanes and We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes >>>>>>>>>> The Photo Album
Otherwise...
I'll add Modest Mouse's Lonesome Crowded West to my list, as that's basically a collection of everything that's good about Indie rock.
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Saturnine - you've pretty much summarized what's been awesome about the last decade in music.
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Skyclad - Split 7" with Lemming Project
Skyclad - The Wayward Sons Of Mother Earth
Skyclad - A Burnt Offering For The Bone Idol
Skyclad - Tracks From The Wilderness
Skyclad - Thinking Allowed?
Skyclad - Jonah's Ark
Skyclad - Prince of the Poverty Line
Skyclad - The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea
Skyclad - Old Rope
Skyclad - Irrational Anthems
Skyclad - Oui Avant-Garde a Chance
Skyclad - The Answer Machine?
Skyclad - Outrageous Fourtunes EP
Skyclad - Vintage Whine
Skyclad - Classix Shape
Skyclad - Folkémon
Skyclad - History Lessens
Skyclad - Another Fine Mess
Skyclad - Swords of a Thousand Men
Skyclad - No Daylights... Nor Heel Taps
Skyclad - Live At The Dynamo
Skyclad - A Semblance Of Normality
No. Fo' real. Start at the beginning, go on till you get to the end.
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Keeping with my normal theme.
The Residents - Meet the Residents
The Residents - Not Available
The Residents - The Third Reich N' Roll
The Residents - Fingerprince
The Residents - Duck Stab/Buster and Glen
The Residents - Eskimo
The Residents - Commercial Album
The Residents - Mark of the Mole
The Residents - The Tunes of Two Cities
The Residents - Intermission
The Residents - The Big Bubble
The Residents - God in Three Persons
The Residents - The King and Eye
The Residents - Cube-E: Live in Holland
The Residents - Freak Show
The Residents - Wormwood
The Residents - Animal Lover.
You should be set by then. I prefer to go from first to latest, but reverse works too.
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Surfer Rosa is cooler than Doolittle.[/quote}
Thank you Steve Albini
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Even though if you've read anything Albini's ever written he's a dick about it and doesn't even really like the album. Morose asshole.
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Doin' the Khar and Kai thing:
(in chronological order)
Ottowa Bonesaw - The Sugarplastic
Sheep / Superball - The Sugarplastic
The Sugarplastic - The Sugarplastic
Radio Jejune - The Sugarplastic
Bang, The Earth Is Round - The Sugarplastic
Polly Brown - The Sugarplastic
Montebello / Polly Brown - The Sugarplastic
Resin - The Sugarplastic
Primitive Plastic - The Sugarplastic
7x7x7 (7 individual 7" 2 track records) - The Sugarplastic
Will - The Sugarplastic
They are incredible.
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I forgot:
Tilly And The Wall - Wild Like Children
Spoon - Gimme Fiction
The Avalanches - Since I Left You
And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Source Tags And Codes
Architecture In Helsinki - Fingers Crossed
Bear Vs. Shark - Right Now, You're In The Best Of Hands And If Something Isn't Quite Right Yr Doctor Will Know In A Hurry
Ben Kweller - Sha Sha
Clinic - Walking With Thee
The Decemeberists - Castaways And Cutouts
Explosions In The Sky - How Strange, Innocence
The Faint - Wet From Birth
The Go! Team - Thunder Lightning Strike
The Honorary Title - Anything Else But The Truth
Kanda - All The Good Meetings Are Taken
Kings Of Leon - Youth And Young Manhood
Les Savy Fav - Inches
Stars - Set Yourself On Fire
The Stills - Logic Will Break Your Heart
Thunderbirds Are Now! - Justamastache
TV On The Radio - Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes
The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
Ok, I'm done this time. I promise.
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Not entirely indie, but I have to heartily recommend:
Four Tet - Rounds
and
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
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any cd with dick dale's Miserlou. period.
the greatest song ever.
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Saturnine - you've pretty much summarized what's been awesome about the last decade in music.
Although I'm interested to know why you would choose Before the Dawn Heals Us over Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts for an M83 "must have." I actually heard Before the Dawn first and was ready to dismiss them as a more pretentious Vangelis rip off, but someone suggested I listen to the previous album.
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I don't know, I guess Before The Dawn Heals Us just feels like more of a cohesive album for me. Don't get me wrong, Dead Cities, Red Seas and Lost Ghosts absolutely blew me away, and I would reccomend it highly, but I don't enjoy the whole album through the way I do with Befor the Dawn. I could listen to "Run Into Flowers" until my heart stops, but the album just isn't as coherent or consistent.
I don't think you can go wrong with either album though.
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Slayer - Reign in Blood
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Judas Priest - British Steel
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
Venom - Black Metal
Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Oh wait! That's not an indie li...
Unbelievably, I own all of those albums except for British Steel (which I probably WILL download now, all things considered). And I also agree about Reign In Blood being on the top of the list.
Speak English Or Die is also essential as far as hardcore/thrash albums go. Has anyone heard D.R.I.'s Dealing With It? I'm about to download it and am curious to hear some thoughts on the matter...
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Well of course, that's just a bare list for the uninitiated. A more complete list would have added:
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Running Wild - Under Jolly Roger
Carpahtian Forest - Morbid Fascination of Death
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal: Aatte Hymne Til Ulven I Manden
Sabbat - History of a Time to Come
Paradise Lost - Gothic
Count Nosferatu Kommando - Ultraviolence Uber Alles
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Orange Goblin - Frequencies From Planet Ten
3 Inches of Blood - Advance & Vanquish
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Finntroll - Midnattens Widunder
Children of Bodom - Hatebreeder
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God
Ewigkeit - Radio Ixtlan
Skyclad - The Wayward Sons of Mother Earth
Bloodbath - Breeding Death EP
Aborym - With No Human Intervention
Death - Human
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
Theatre of Tragedy - Velvet Darkness They Fear
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Burzum - Burzum
Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery
Samael - Worship Him
Immortal - Battles in the North
Cradle of Filth - Vempire EP
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Therion - Theli
Tankard - Chemical Invasion
and a ton more. But seriously, that ^ audial feast of awesomeness, and a good set of bookmarks, sea-changes, comparisons, oft-copied efforts and simply fucking good music, although it lacks depth in death metal and thrash particularly, and has some more personal choices.
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*tops himself(herself?)*
All you missed was DFA1979, I think, but it mighta been mentioned earlier.
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Johnny C... when did I say that?
DFA1979 is a great band, though. I don't know if I would put them on my "must have" list, but I thoroughly enjoy them nonetheless.
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I'll avoid getting into the requisite debate over which Pixies or Pavement album is really the definitive one. But allow me to throw in a couple that have not been mentioned.
R.E.M. -- Murmur. I may be biased here suggesting this one, but it is a fantastic album. This album, along with Automatic for the People, are considered their two best albums. Murmur pretty much ushered in the "college rock" movement of the 80s. They were a very unconventional band at the time. Peter Buck wasn't a true lead guitarist and you've got Michael Stipes oh-so-unintelligible lyrics. It's a very good album.
I also didn't see any Elvis Costello in there. My Aim is True or This Year's Model are both great albums. Most of his albums have been re-released and are packed-full of auditory extras.
~~Willis
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My friend's sister is a big REM fan. Knowing this, I set off on a task to bug the hell out of her. It took one sentence.
"REM? Those guys are Hippies."
Well, technically two, but who's counting?
But yeah, that combined with after me saying I hated Weezer makes her think I have no taste in music.
Also, I really have no actual opinion on REM. Never listened to them. I just like bugging my friend's sister.
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Yeah, my friend thinks I have bad taste because I don't think Beck's Guerro is the best album ever.
See what I have to deal with? I'm not even sure why we're still friends. XP
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Well, most of the stuff that's already been said is awesome, but here's a few things that I think were left off.
Anything by the Fall, but especially "Hex Enduction Hour"
Also, The first six Elvis Costello CDs (My Aim is True, This Year's Model, Armed Forces, Get Happy, Trust, Imperial Bedroom)
And I might have missed it, but I didn't see any Bjork either. Get anything by her, it all rules.
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Well, most of the stuff that's already been said is awesome, but here's a few things that I think were left off.
Anything by the Fall, but especially "Hex Enduction Hour"
Also, The first six Elvis Costello CDs (My Aim is True, This Year's Model, Armed Forces, Get Happy, Trust, Imperial Bedroom)
And I might have missed it, but I didn't see any Bjork either. Get anything by her, it all rules.
Mmm...to give my PERSONAL opinion (as in, what I personally think and not meant in any way to be taken as gospel because there seems to be a disconnect in this thread with expressing opinion and giving a command), I'd say that Life's Too Good by the Sugarcubes is definately worth a listen, as are Post and Vespertine as well as the remix albums. Debut isn't bad, but many of the songs still had a "Sugarcubes" ring to them, as if she hadn't quite found her style yet. Homogenic, which I think is stylistically some of her finest work (due largely in part to Mark Bell), suffers from lyrical ineptitude (a lot of the songs sound like something a wounded teenager would write in a bad poetry journal kept under his/her pillow), and while none of her songs are lyrically brilliant, I think I was expecting more from this album because it was such a leap from her previous work.. Medulla was an interesting experiment, but pushes the boundaries for eccentricities a bit too much.
At least, that's what I think.
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Johnny C... when did I say that?
You didn't, I just summarized your second list into one sentence.
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In retrospect, DFA1979 should be on my must-have list. "Cold War" convinced me the other day.
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Not entirely indie, but I have to heartily recommend:
Four Tet - Rounds
and
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
I HIGHLY agree. Rounds is sucha wicked album, so random and trippy. And Saturnine, your lists kicked an incredible amount of booty, too. Good job.
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I think just to make sure...
Fugazi - 13 Songs
Bear Vs. Shark - Terrorhawk
Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On
Cursive - The Ugly Organ
and whatever else is on that big list. XP
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Another cool band is Morphine. It's got no guitar, but it's got that slide bass and saxaphone stuff. I like "Good" the best, but everyone else says "cure for pain". Whatever. They both rule.
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Fugazi - 13 Songs
Much as I love that record, I personally reckon Repeater was them basically going over the same ground but with much greater success. There's something just a little too loose about 13 Songs.
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my list:
lift yr skinny fists like antennas to heaven - godspeed you! black emperor (best post rock album of all time.)
belle and sebastian - boy with the arab strap/dear catastrophe waitress (delightful brit-pop)
olivia tremor control - dusk at the cubist castle (like beatles if they wore vintage t-shirts and had synthesizers.)
pavement - slanted and enchanted (my favorite pavement album. should be yours too.)
the silver jews - american water (great album, was so good it broke up pavement. silly stephen malkmus)
the moutain goats - all hail west texas/tallahasee (great great great albums. lofi-indie-folk for the soul.)
mirah - c'mon miracle (you will get a crush on her, despite her being "mostly gay")
mogwai - come on die young (also amazing post rock.)
xiu xiu - fabulous muscles (music to creep out your roommate to.)
sufjan stevens - illinois (if only for john wayne gacy. so creepy!)
sebadoh - harmacy (good times.)
ryan adams - heartbreaker ("he's got a mouf full o' cookies." it will make you feel better about the debacle that is rock n roll)
neutral milk hotel - in an aeroplane over the sea (musical sex. hands down best nmh album)
i could go on and on, but i shan't. i left out lots of contemporary things, just because you can go on pitchfork and read up. although tinymixtapes is far superior!
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my list:
lift yr skinny fists like antennas to heaven - godspeed you! black emperor (best post rock album of all time.)
I guess that depends on your flavor of post-rock. Don't get me wrong, I definitely dig the album, but it's a beast to listen to. I usually play it ambiently.
I prefer Do Make Say Think or Explosions In The Sky. I guess because both bands seem to have more dynamics in a short period of time (6 minutes or so), whereas GY!BE stretches each piece way out.
Have you heard A Silver Mt. Zion? I think you'd probably like them.
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i have indeed! gybe is a bit of a challenge sometimes, i used to feel like i wasn't quite getting it, as trite as that sounds, but one day i was listening to lift yr skinny fists and it just sort of made sense, hence my appreciation. incedentally, one of my favorite moments ever involving godspeed involved reading harry potter, and it timed perfectly with the climax of the action and song. disconcerting, really.
p.s.- yo la tengo's prisoners of love is a great intro to indie, it ranges all over the place. i am a fan.
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i had a simlar moment with GY!BE. my friend has always been a big fan, so i gave em a listen. i remember being unimpressed and kind of bored. one day "Static" or "Storm" (can't remember) came on random and i loved it. it can be difficult, but it's definitely worth it. you have to hear each song in its entirety or you'll miss the point.
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GY!BE are alright, but they sure ain't the best. You want to hit up Explosions in the Sky, 65daysofstatic or Mogwai for the post-rock lovin'.
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65daysofstatic are post-rock now? They must have changed a lot, I saw them a few months back and they were just pretty average indie. Nice to know they've changed direction, I'll give them another shot now.
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AiH blows. They have, like, 10 people with a plethora of instruments, and THIS is the crap they waste it on?
Whatever.
Flaming Lips are awesome, though. Definently check out The Soft Bulletin.
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I've always found tracks like 'H8red' by Killing Miranda and 'My Girlfriends Girlfriend' by Type O Negative infinitely more fun than pop music. Goth is actually a tremendously fun genre.
Speaking of goth, everyone should own:
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju
Bauhaus - Burning From The Inside/Bela Lugosi's Dead (or just Crackle)
Minimum.
Also:
Dead Can Dance - umm.....ummm....actually, get all of Dead Can Dance's albums.
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GY!BE are alright, but they sure ain't the best. You want to hit up Explosions in the Sky, 65daysofstatic or Mogwai for the post-rock lovin'.
while i'm a giant mogwai/explosions in the sky fan, i really think that gy!be is the quintessential post-rock band. haven't heard 65daysofstatic though.
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Yeah, if you say 'post-rock' most people will think GY!BE first. So, in that regard, i guess they would be THE post-rock to check out. They just don't excite me in the same way Explosions, Mogwai and 65DOS do.
If you haven't herad 65daysofstatic, you're basically missing out. They are totally, like, my favourite band evah. Epic post-rock with a glitchy electronica twist. I'll PM you a tune or two.
Anyway, yeah. GY!BE, eh? Good stuff.