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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: stevethepirate on 17 Aug 2005, 18:42
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Not long ago I was flipping through the channels on my buddy's TV. I decided on seeing what was playing on Much More Music to see if anything interesting was playing or which bands I used to listen to, had become commercial slaves. And wouldn't you know it, the very next song that played was Power out by the Arcade Fire. I then proceeded to loudly yell "Fucking hell!" while sitting in the middle of the kitchen eating a Nutella sandwhich. This being very abrupt had absolutely no affect on my friends because they are used to me yelling out random things and being "spontaneous". But anyway, it made me sad to think that the Arcade Fire had stooped so low as to have their song played on Much. But in the back of my mind I congratulated them for making it onto the major music scene. Vopice your opinion.
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Sell it now, selling out,
Everyone you know is selling out!
Sell it now, selling out,
Everyone you know is selling out!
Bring me the head of Roman Polanski!
Bring me the legs of Fred Astaire!
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Um. They're pretty bound to get their videos played on networks. it's going to happen to all of your favorite bands. and there's nothing wrong with that.
However, I just feel like that because I am absolutely 100% sure that none of my favorite bands will ever become huge. especially since a good 60% are dead or broken up, and the rest are "uncommercial".
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If I ever saw an Immortal video being played on the TV, my trousers would literally come down in France.
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Wait. It's a bad thing if your favorite band gets played on MuchMusic? I...don't understand.
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Well there are laws here in Canada that say a certain amount of Canadian music must be played, so the more obscure are bound to get exposure here. That said, The Arcade Fire got popular (and twice as uncool) awhile ago.
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JUST BECAUSE A BAND GETS FAMOUS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY'VE SOLD OUT.
That is all. :-)
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NO! IT'S MY BAND! NOBODY ELSE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE IT!!!
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"I thought you named the dog after me."
"We named the dog Indie."
"You named me after the dog?"
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More good bands on tv = better.
If playing Arcade Fire means there is 4 minutes less of Linkin Park or Coldplay, I'm happy.
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SELLOUTZ NURRRR
I'd rather see the Arcade Fire than some stupid jerkoffs whining about a girl that dumped them 3 years ago.
Also, luke? What the hell?
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I wanted to say something more creative and more obscure than EX-INDIE SELLOUTS HUURRRR, and that's what I came up with.
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Oh. Way to make me go "what the hell", I haven't had a good "what the hell" in a long time. I'm gonna have to remember that one...
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One time, I liked a band, but then some other people liked the band so I said I didn't like the band but I secretly still liked them but then even more people liked them so I SHIT MY PANTS!
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OMG that totally happened to a guy I know!
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Yeah, they've been getting airplay for quite a long while now. Even before the summer started, I remember me being in bio class with nothing to do with our teacher just giving us the remote to the classroom TV. Flipped around for a while, and what do you know? It's Rebellion! Then I go home, flip around with the telly, and what do you know? It's Rebellion again! Not to mention, Devon-the-annoying-DJ is quite a fanboy of The Arcade Fire, and totally whores them out all the time. I love the Arcade Fire, but sweet jesus, I don't need to be told that they are the bestest tr00 rock band of all time and HAS COME TO SAVE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. Because, it sounds really dumb coming from a Much Music DJ.
So. Inconclusion, my opinion:
Arcade Fire on Much = old news, and is okay
Devon whoring out Arcade Fire = so not cool.
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not as extreme as the Kidz Bop / Modest Mouse mess.
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It's the same in the UK, except it's Zane Lowe, who loves The Arcade Fire
and Death From Above 1979
and Modest Mouse
and most other FORMALLYINDIEOMFGZ bands.
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guys, they are just trying to be cool, guys.
sometimes DJs want to be cool too, guys.
guys.
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HAUGHLAGBUHLGBLUGAGUHBGHULBUNURRRRRRRRR
ALSO: COCKS
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I don't pay enough attention to know how much popularity is considered uncool. But Channel 4 have started using Rebellion (lies) to advertise E4 and the new season of Six Feet Under.
I was shocked and awed (and happy).
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if a group doesn't change thier sound to make more money, they just happen to get popular, it's being successful, not selling out.
now, if a band were to abandon what they started out doing and adapt themselves to be more accesable to the mainstream, that would be selling out.
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Devon = so not cool.
Fixed.
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not as extreme as the Kidz Bop / Modest Mouse mess.
I was really drunk when I first saw the ad for that. I fell over laughing (not fell over because I was drunk. Really.)
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it made me want to cry when i saw it. i love modest mouse. Kidz Bop is now on my List
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Ha ha!
Don't get me wrong, I dig ze Modest Mouse.
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Seriously, who buys that Kidz Bop crap...........WHY does it exist?!!?!!
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Because of Satan.
Y'know the whole eternal torment dealie.
At least they only play the commercials. If i heard that blaring out in public, I would be forced to kill something or someone.
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What the fook is Kidz Bop?!
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You're better off not knowing............
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E4 and film four have used the arcade fire on some of their recent adverts ...
film four usually has good advert music though... like mogwai and sigur ros sometimes
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ANYWAYS
If I lived in a world where everybody owned an album by The Arcade Fire, or Death From Above 1979, or Metric, or Modest Mouse, or whatever indie band you want to name, that would be a pretty good world, I think. So I really don't worry about those bands getting airplay (especially on MuchMusic which is a TV channel I love), because I would rather people said "Hey I'll go buy the Arcade Fire album" than saying "HOLY MOLY THAT JESSE MCCARTNEY IS SOOOOO DEEP ZOMGZORDS!"
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If I ever saw an Immortal video being played on the TV, my trousers would literally come down in France.
Um Scuzz? They have played Immortal, I know cause my fiance almost creamed... They also play dark tranqulity although they are def moving more mainstream... that is all.
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Was it Monochromatic Stains?
I love that video.
Any idea what Immortal Video it was? I'm guessing Grim And Frostbitten Kingdoms, because that's the least ridiculous.
It should definitely have been Call of the Wintermoon though:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/KharBevNor/Callovwintermoon.jpg)
This still only captures the barest fraction of the awesome of Call of the Wintermoon.
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No idea Khar, but he'll probs know when he gets in from work at 2:30, I'll ask and post if he remembers. :)
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In the name of my mate Sam , who I consulted with over MSN, (Chambercraft's very own) I say (as he told me) "BLACKEST MIGHTY RAVENDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK!!!"
Does that make sense??
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"Kidz Bop" + "Now that's what I call music" = 2(yuck)
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Does that make sense??
"A GRIMLY SOUND OF NAKED WIIIIINDS....
IS ALL THAT SHALL EVER BE HEARD FROM HEEEEERE!
OOOOOOOH!!!"
(or, yes)
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I prefer System of a Down and Deerhoof to all those other whacked-out crazy death-metal bands you guys listen to.
"Pan-da pan-da panda pan-da pan panda!"
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Good, I'm glad. Cause it made precious little to me, I just head upstairs and listen to my pop punk bollocks while he looks evil and stuff downstairs :)
Anyhoo Gareth (the Fiance) tinks the DT one is New Build. mih :)
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it made me want to cry when i saw it. i love modest mouse. Kidz Bop is now on my List
Same here. They don't even know what Modest Mouse even IS and they're bastardizing their music. It makes me cry.
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Anyhoo Gareth (the Fiance) tinks the DT one is New Build. mih :)
Pssh, Character was a let down in my book. Damage Done though, hell yeah! Monochromatic Stains is such a great song, and that whacked out expressionist video...perfection!
LIKE FINGERPRINTS ON YOUR HEART...
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The Arcade Fire being on some kind of media outlet is not news to me. Every single person I know that is even remotely into rock has a copy of Funeral. These are the same kinds of people who made The Postal Service famous.
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I am a rocker. I rock out. I have not this Funeral of which you speak. Yet I think you know me not. So thou art not refuted.
rawr.
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Arcade Fire...rock?
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weevil, you mean Arcade Fire am teh rock, right?
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I still don't really get this? How is trying to have more people listen to your music a bad thing/selling out? I mean, if I started a band I'd want the whole world to listen, no? At the end of the day, what is the point of art if there is noone to appreciate said art?
I agree if whoever said that if you start altering your music for commercial appeal then you would be 'selling out', but if you're just putting out what you already have...?
Hell, some of the stuff I listen to is obscure as hell. Some of it. on the other hand. is pretty much as popular as music gets. Does that make the latter any worse than the former? Who cares if your music taste is shared by the world as long as it's still music that you, personally, for whatever reasons, find... pff, for lack of a better word: good.
Hell, everyone in the world simultaneously decides to listen to everything on my playlist/in my cd collection I'd be happy, though a little perplexed hehe.
So yeah...
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for those of you worried about the arcade fire becoming "popular" and thus uncool, i would be more bothered by the fact they have been in newsweek twice in the past year than the fact that a much music is playing their videos.
also, the modest mouse toyota commerical was when i knew the cat was completely out of the bag there.
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Nine inch Nails NEVER gets any airplay on Much or MuchMoreMusic.
The only Tool song that ever gets play is Schism. These bands have huge cult followings, and yet, they get no airplay. Apparently The Arcade Fire is considered disposable enough to be put on Much.
Honestly, they probably are disposable...being indie does not excuse disposableness.
*disposes of The Arcade Fire, and listens to Nine inch Nails 10 years into the future*
Much sucks. Give me Fuse!
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I was under the impression that Much had changed into Fuse. At least that's what happened on DirecTV...
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It did in the US, I know that for sure. In canada, though, I'm not too sure. My grandfather lives in the northernmost part of Maine, so he gets both Canadian and US channels, although I can't tell which is which for some of them.
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It was on Much More Music, that's still around but I'm not sure what happened to the original Much. Funny thing though, I just saw Ben Stein singing boulevard of broken dreams, the greenday song for any of you that don't know what it is.
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Nine inch Nails NEVER gets any airplay on Much or MuchMoreMusic.
Lies, one hundred percent. I've seen "The Hand That Feeds" on Much, and they interviewed Reznor for their special, "The Star Machine," using a whole bunch of his material in the finished show.
Also, the reason Tool doesn't get airplay is because they haven't released a single since they, you know, broke up. A Perfect Circle got airplay, back when they released videos and singles that people could stand to watch and listen to.
In Canada, Much is still Much.
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Does the Canadian version (what you silly canucks call Much Music) have that goddawful Dedicate Live show?
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Hey come on, I happen to like Dedicate Live! I have at least one message on there per week, man!
(KIDDING, kidding)
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Dedicate live is really actually hilarious until you remember that those are messages that people actually wrote and that they're not just making it all up.
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True.
I found it particularly amusing when Good Charlotte had a song on that show and it didn't get any dedications.
But one thing that did bug me once was when "Wake Up (Make a Move)" by Lostprophets was played, and every single dedication involved making a move involving relationships. I remember subconsciously screaming "IT'S A SONG ABOUT REVOLUTION, YOU IDIOTS" - seriously, you'd think the video would give it away (as if the lyrics aren't enough).
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In all honesty, it doesn't matter at all whether a band is popular or not. All that matters is if you like them or not.
Unfortunately, current popular music does tend to suck a lot...
PS. And I think Funeral is ace.
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I have long cherished the desire for the last panel of that on a t-shirt. But I know not how to screen-print.
Woe is me.
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They sell printable transfer paper that you transfer with an iron. I made a shirt during the 2004 elections that said "*Picture of skull the troll* For President!" I love it a lots. But its all a-faded.
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That last panel would make the best shirt ever.
Also, I love the Queers.
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Kai, why are you calling us "Canucks"? Did someone from Canada happen to do you some kind of wrong or were you just being sarcastic?
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They sell printable transfer paper that you transfer with an iron. I made a shirt during the 2004 elections that said "*Picture of skull the troll* For President!" I love it a lots. But its all a-faded.
Yeah, but I can't find any that work on BUHLAWHK
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Kai, why are you calling us "Canucks"? Did someone from Canada happen to do you some kind of wrong or were you just being sarcastic?
Sarcasm, and more of a joke to some Canadian friends of mine who alwasy call us silly Americans names.
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Go ahead and panic if you will, but the Arcade Fire just hit the top thirty.
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Hey indie kids! Your scene is mainstream! How does that feel, huh?
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Go ahead and panic if you will, but the Arcade Fire just hit the top thirty.
They already hit it with "Rebellion (Lies)."
sp2: Yeah well at least our scene puts out consistently good music. OWNED
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Yeah, well now Neighborhood #3(Power Out) is on the top thirty. I think it was 28 or something.
I'd know, but i never watch the top thirty. I just saw them briefly talk about how they're new to the countdown this week.
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I think Judas Priest hit the charts once in this country...a bit after Bauhaus...
*breaks down weeping*
Twenty years too late! Twenty years too late!
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sp2: Yeah well at least our scene puts out consistently good music. OWNED
You make assumptions to what my scene is. And your assumptions are probably wrong.
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Yeah, I just said it to be inflammatory. Also to mock you, whatever your scene is.
EDIT: Out of sheer curiousity, does it have anything to do with punk/hardcore/post-hardcore?
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I like punk, hardcore, and post-hardcore, but I damned well don't restrict myself to that scene. I don't really consider myself as belonging to any given scene. I don't dress towards any given scene, I don't restrict myself musically to any scene, and I don't restrict myself sociopolitically to any given scene. I really don't like the idea of counterculture "movements" in general because I think it is mainly a means to make a brand-name out of dissent (be it Punk, Hippie, Hipster, Goth, Rastafarian, or whatever). If people put half as much time into actually making change rather than trying to fit into a crowd that claims to support social change, the world would be a significantly better place.
So my scene is, if anything, counter-counter-culture (not to be mistaken with mainstream, because I'm not).
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Scenes can be so dumb. They consist of people who think their scene is where to be and if you so happen aren't in that scene they think they should shit on you.
Scenes real cool!
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counter-counter-culture
At least you're not counter-counter-counter-culture. Those guys are douchebags.
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I'm pretty sure it starts getting into a recursive loop after two counters, and you end up either raging against everything, including yourself, or you end up burning your brain out and genuinely loving everyone.
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I'm pretty sure it starts getting into a recursive loop after two counters, and you end up either raging against everything, including yourself, or you end up burning your brain out and genuinely loving everyone.
I think I'm getting towards that last bit. I'm also listening to a lot of Elephant 6
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Screw all counter-cultures to the nth degree, the anti-culture is where it's at.
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Is there an apathy culture? Because if there is, I'm so there.
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Is there an apathy culture?
Eh, who cares?
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bla bla bla, American history fact : 200 years of slavery ...
I like when red water goes out ... and when good band appears on music station ...
:P I hate you :P :*
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The mods won't take kindly to that, man. Post-editing time GO!
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meh whatever. I haven't watched much music in a good few years. Sometimes if I'm bored I'll watch Wedge (which is a show) but the VJ's kind of annoy me.
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Agreed, when I started this thread it was the first time I'd watched much in about five years.
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I had to go there and do one of those shadow days things with my college and it was really cool behind the scenes but alot of the vjs and stuff were annoying. Aaron (the blonde 1) was alright, he knew his stuff but alot of the girls are kinda clueless.
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That new blonde chick drives me up the fucking wall. She's so twitchy and fake. And the black girl with the floppy afro...gah. She can't even speak clearly.
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Leah, you mean. And yeah, she drives me effing nuts.
At least she isn't Matte, though. If anyone on this board ever has the chance to be on live TV when Matte's on, ask him, "Are you actually retarded, or just socially inept?"
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See, this is why I don't watch TV. Too stressful.
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Leah, you mean. And yeah, she drives me effing nuts.
At least she isn't Matte, though. If anyone on this board ever has the chance to be on live TV when Matte's on, ask him, "Are you actually retarded, or just socially inept?"
hahahaha. I never got the chance to meet him. I think he started working there after I quit. I'm going to start watching Much cause I have yet to see him.
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you know what, nowadays something like Jhonny C's idea could probably get you both fired and sued. The bastards would be all, "That's harrasment!" and then you'd go to jail for not being able to pay 5 million dollars in emotional damages. I don't think that all these corporations should play up music like that though anyways, it sort of kills the purpose of listening to music when it's all owned by a massive conglomerate that doesn't care what the music sounds like as long as they get another 0 added to the end of their paycheck.
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I watched Razor for the first time today. It was the worst thing I've ever seen.
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Not long ago I was flipping through the channels on my buddy's TV. I decided on seeing what was playing on Much More Music to see if anything interesting was playing or which bands I used to listen to, had become commercial slaves. And wouldn't you know it, the very next song that played was Power out by the Arcade Fire. I then proceeded to loudly yell "Fucking hell!" while sitting in the middle of the kitchen eating a Nutella sandwhich. This being very abrupt had absolutely no affect on my friends because they are used to me yelling out random things and being "spontaneous". But anyway, it made me sad to think that the Arcade Fire had stooped so low as to have their song played on Much. But in the back of my mind I congratulated them for making it onto the major music scene. Vopice your opinion.
nutella is disgusting.
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River Gauche wins the totally fucking off topic award. woo!
I've never had nutella (or even know what the hell Nutella is), so.
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I've never had it, but basically it's hazelnut peanutbutter and chocolate.
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That sounds good.
Anyways, do you Canadian folks get that one Metal show, where the lady like, answers stupid metalheads' questions and then plays shitty metal music? that show is hilarious if you happen to be with a few friends at like, 1 in the morning. Especially when someone asks what they should do about some teacher who keeps giving them detentions for wearing their slipknot shirt to school and all of us immediatly yell "STOP LiSTENING TO SLIPKNOT" in unison as an answer. at one in the morning.
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OH MAN THAT CHICK IS HILARIOUS!
What's her name, Juliya? She looks like a total tramp. Not only that, but she lacks imaginative piercings and tatoos. She's not really even goth, although she tries to be. Listen, sister, goth isn't just about wearing black latex, mmkay? Plus, most of the questions she answers are socially-retarded guys asking her for a date. And then she tried to act all hardcore and was talking about blood and violence when it's obvious that bitch never moshed in her entire life. Stupid whore. OH! And then she interviewed some terribly lame screamcore band and was talking about how METAL they were. No, no, they're screamcore. Not metal. Not metal at all. Sorry, dude. Plus, they sucked.
I was watching that show this summer with a friend of mine (who isn't as goth as Khar, but is pretty close) and she and I just laughed our asses off the whole time. I'm pretty sure that Coldplay is more "FUCKING METAL" than that chick is.
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I've never heard of this show. It fills me with curriousity though.
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(who isn't as goth as Khar, but is pretty close)
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I don't even call myself goth anymore, got over that when I was 16, but man, it depresses me even with the fact that I'm not really goth, and I don't really dress goth, that I'm far far far far far far far far far more goth than anyone I know below the age of 20 who does label themselves goth. It makes me want to press the back of my hand to my forehead and listen to Floodland, it really does.
And if God existed, he would shit nutella. That is my thoughts on that matter. Fuck, I need nutella now. Like, physically need.
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Hey, even I am more goth than fourteen years-old brats who have no idea what The Cure, Bauhaus or even Sisters of Mercy were. Ad I listen mostly to The Shins and Bob Dylan these days...
As for The Arcade Fire, I'm glad for them. More airtime means more people will listen to it and more good music sold everywhere. These guys are leading the way for a bunch of cool anglo-montrealers bands like The Dears, The Stills or Stars.
Seriously, I don't know if it's the same in English Canada, but MusiquePlus (french MMusic) actually plays a wide variety of bands, from high class shit to really cool stuff.
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MPlus kicks mmusics ass anyday. I need to move back to montreal dammit.