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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Kid_Disaster on 14 Sep 2005, 19:45
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Who is excited about Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One? I SURE AM!
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You fucked up the title. If you're going to refer to the most incredibly pretentious album title I've ever heard, include the fact that it's not only Volume One, it's Volume One: From Fear Through The Eyes Of Madness. Deep!
EDIT: I just noticed this is your first post, and maybe I should encourage you. Yes, I'm excited; I just wish they hadn't gone with the stupidest name ever.
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What about Fiona Apples title for her follow up to Tidal, When the pawn ... for 50ish more words. A tad pretentious?
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Wasn't it like ninety-some words? And saying "tad" there is like saying "blue whales are a tad enormous."
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Haha
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This is that Italian band with the high pitched singer who now sound just like a cross between Rhapsody and Lacuna Coil with a dash of Elvenking on the solos, yeah?
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It's been leaked for a while now anddddd
i gotta say i didn't like it, maybe two, three songs out of 15.
that's only 20 percent!
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This is that Italian band with the high pitched singer who now sound just like a cross between Rhapsody and Lacuna Coil with a dash of Elvenking on the solos, yeah?
yeah pretty much but with a little bit of HIM thrown in there.... i like it *blushes*
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VILLE VALO IS DREAMY
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Coheed & Cambria are one of the worst bands I have ever heard.
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I was watching Fuse and they had a video (This wa like two weeks ago; wtf?) and I couldn't stop laughing cause the guy was like, "ONE, LAST, KISH FOR YOOOOOOOOUUUU, ONE, MORE, WISH FOR YOOOOOOOOOU" like a fish. it was awesome.
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he had a double axe! it was pretty redonkulous.
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On their live DVD, Claudio was being interviewed about the new album. Here's what he said:
"We're working on the third album right now entitled Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV: Volume I from Fear Through the Eyes of Madness."
As soon as he announced the title, you could see his bandmate wince a little bit and shake his head slightly.
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he had a double axe! it was pretty redonkulous.
i would have to agree on that. He didn't even use the whole thing, he just used the lower neck.
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Dude...no, not HIM. No. No. No. No. No.
NO
no no no not him i hate him they sound a little like HIM eww sif HIM
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secret internet fatty? :0
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he had a double axe! it was pretty redonkulous.
I'd say redorkulous. I believe that's the one that means "bad". :P
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The only thing more awesomen than a double axe is a truple axe. or a double axe that#s on fire. or like, two conjoined twins, both playing some monstrous quad necked twelve-string.
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i still say redonkulous
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when your sig says sexist I bet you really mean sexier
woo
werewolves
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whatever floats your boat man!
;___;
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hey
if they were like, sexy wereowlves
that woiuld bne cool
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oh man, you don't want me to find those crazy pictures of wang-erful werewolves.
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On their live DVD, Claudio was being interviewed about the new album. Here's what he said:
"We're working on the third album right now entitled Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV: Volume I from Fear Through the Eyes of Madness."
As soon as he announced the title, you could see his bandmate wince a little bit and shake his head slightly.
My god, that's awesome.
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As soon as he announced the title, you could see his bandmate wince a little bit and shake his head slightly.
It was more of a twitchy movement. A little nod of the head and a facial expression that read "don't look at me, it was this fuck's idea."
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Umm, one small question: Who the fuck are HIM?
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HIM are one of the least significant and least-associated-with-goth-except-through-stupid-imagery bands to ever grace the music scene with their presence, so obviously in the eyes of the media and a whole load of disaffected little kids, they're the gothest band on the face of the planet.
Basically take three themes: "Love", "Death" and "Razorblades". Then mix and match them into the simplest lyrics you can imagine, mix with 12 fluid ounces of the most turgid and flat-out boring radio rock you can cook up, and you have yourself a HIM song!
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I thought HiM was a pretty sweet jazz band. Hrmm.
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Don't forget the heartagram.
Fuck, I hate HIM so much. Has anyone yet discovered why each song is 6 minutes long yet contains only 2 minutes of music and lyrics?
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While the art of musicianship is foreign to them, they've got the art of filler tracks down to a tee.
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Coheed is good in limited doses. The geek in me loves their pretentious concept albums series titles, or whatever they are.
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Coheed is good in limited doses. The geek in me loves their pretentious concept albums series titles, or whatever they are.
Heck, if you like that album title, check out Illinois. Alot of tracks have mamoth titles.
My favorite:
"A Conjunction of Drones Simulating the Way in Which Sufjan Stevens Has an Existential Crisis in the GREAT GODFREY MAZE"
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I've just been listening to some samples of Sufjan over the past week and thinking I really need to get that album. Not necessarily because of the song titles, but hey, added bonus I guess...
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See, Sufjan's song titles are quirky. Coheed, on the other hand... they're fuckin' serious.
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No, they're serious. Claudio sees it in his brain, and then he writes about it. And the band goes "fuck man, this is not good, you're writing about bicycles."
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As far as track titles go, no-one will ever out-do Bal-Sagoth
"Starfire Burning Upon The Ice-Veiled Throne Of Ultima Thule" (1996)
1) Black Dragons Soar Above The Mountain Of Shadows (Prologue)
2) To Dethrone The Witch-Queen Of Mytos K'Unn (The Legend Of The Battle Of Blackhelm Vale)
3) As The Vortex Illumines The Crystalline Walls Of Kor-Avul-Thaa
4) Starfire Burning Upon The Ice-Veiled Throne Of Ultima Thule
5) Journey To The Isle Of Mists (Over The Moonless Depths Of Night-Dark Seas)
6) The Splendour Of A Thousand Swords Gleaming Beneath The Blazon Of The Hyperborean Empire
7) And Lo, When The Imperium Marches Against Gul-Kothoth, Then Dark Sorceries Shall Enshroud The Citadel Of The Obsidian Crown
8) Summoning The Guardians Of The Astral Gate
9) In The Raven-Haunted Forests Of Darkenhold, Where Shadows Reign And The Hues Of Sunlight Never Dance
10) At The Altar Of The Dreaming Gods (Epilogue)
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Dear God I think I just SHARTED.
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IVE GOT A CASE OF THE SONG TITLES BEING REALLY PRETENTIOUS BLUES
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I think that song's from "The Writer"'s perspective. This shit is meta-fiction.
Yeah, he's writing songs about a sci-fi story he imagines. I think Claudio's pretty self aware.
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Just because you're self-aware doesn't mean you aren't fucking nuts.
Just a thought.
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As far as track titles go, no-one will ever out-do Bal-Sagoth
I'm sorry, but Sufjan completely wins this round.
Illinois:
01 Concerning the UFO Sighting Near Highland, IL
02 The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience But You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, "I have fought the Big Knives and will continue to fight them until they are off our lands!"
03 Come on! Feel the Illinoise!
-Part I: The World's Columbian Exposition
-Part II: Carl Sandburg Visits Me in a Dream
Note: Divided into two parts. Two. Parts.
04 John Wayne Gacy, Jr.
05 Jacksonville
06 A Short Reprise for Mary Todd, Who Went Insane, But for Very Good Reasons
Note: Hahahahaha, awesome.
07 Decatur, or, Round of Applause for Your Step Mother!
08 One Last "Woo-hoo!" for the Pullman
09 Chicago
10 Casimir Pulaski Day
11 To the Workers of the Rockford River Valley Region, I have an Idea Concerning Your Predicament, and it involves shoe string, a lavender garland, and twelve strong women
12 The Man of Metropolis Steals Our Hearts
13 Prairie Fire That Wanders About
14 A Conjunction of Drones Simulating the Way in Which Sufjan Stevens Has an Existential Crisis in the Great Godfrey Maze
15 The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades Is Out to Get Us!
16 They Are Night Zombies!! They Are Neighbors!! They Have Come Back From the Dead!! Ahhhhh!
Note: The "Ahhhhh!" is, in fact, part of the title.
17 Let's Hear That String Part Again, Because I Don't Think They Heard It All the Way Out in Bushnell
18 In This Temple, as in the Hearts of Man, for Whom He Saved the Earth
19 The Seer's Tower
20 The Tallest Man, the Broadest Shoulders
-Part I: The Great Frontier
-Part II: Come to Me Only With Playthings Now
21 Riffs and Variations on a Single Note for Jelly Roll, Earl Hines, Louis Armstrong, Baby Dodds, and the King of Swing, to Name a Few
22 Out of Egypt, into the Great Laugh of Mankind, and I shake the dirt from my sandals as I run
The best part is that these songs are pretty much all about their titles. See, it takes any idiot to sing about ridiculous concepts and events revolving around some place named with too many k's and inappropriately-placed apostrophes, but it takes a certain level of genius to apply that to events which take place in a real location, and even more genius when that location is Illinois and those events involve serial killers, fictional zombies, and wasps which are out to get you.
And yeah, Claudio gave three weeks notice to reality a while back, I think.
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Ah, but any man can give a song a pretentious title. The reason Bal-Sagoth wins for sheer pretension is because of the actual lyrics of the songs themselves. Every album is basically a fantasy novel, formed into two trilogies, and we are confronted from the lyrics booklet with things like this (only half of this is sung. Worse, there are a good few bits sung that aren't mentioned here):
Starfire Burning Upon The Ice-Veiled Throne Of Ultima Thule
Spears agleam in the dying sun,
The blood is spilled, the battle's won,
From the icy throne of God-King shall rule,
When nine stars kiss the moon o'er Ultima Thule.
[Old Northlander war-song, found in the ancient scrolls of Volmyr]
The Final Part of Voryn Helmsmiter's Journey to the Ice Realm: Blood
drips from my frost-encased sword, forming a crimson blossom upon the ice...
My limbs cold, becoming as one with the massing snows... my eyes nearly frozen
closed. For how long had we travelled? The memory grows dim, lost in the
cruel, searing storm-winds. And now, at last... our quest is at an end. With
the blessings of the elders we began our journey beyond the great veil of
shadowed glaciers... They spoke of a prophecy foretold, an ancient and
glorious legacy, A quest for the realm of legendry lost to man since before
even the Star-Lords descended... Now, only I survive, my blood spilling to the
ice, turning to crimson crystal upon the deeply frozen earth. Elder sorcery
crackles and hums all about me, coursing through the sky, the snow... As grim
destiny approaches with the freezing boreal gales and this ancient prophecy
unfolds...
[Predication of the Elders:]
Go, follow the witch-lights in the northern night sky, beyond the great
silvern mountains... Let the sacred moon-crystal be your guide, beware the
sentinels at the Caverns of Eternal Mist...
Spears agleam in the dying sun,
The blood is spilled, the battle's won,
From the icy throne of God-King shall rule,
When nine stars kiss the moon o'er Ultima Thule.
Swathed in moon-frosts, in icy winds our blazon flying,
Iron gleaming 'neath the stars, black skies ablaze with astral fire,
White wolves (like silent spirits) haunt us, ever northwards, the ice-gem
leads us, glimmering,
Powerful spells entwine the shrine of legendry, mighty gates of frozen
splendour looming,
When the moon and stars shine as one upon the snows, the ancient ice-gate
opens, the prophecy is fulfilled!
Towering, ice-encrusted forms lumber forth from the freezing mist,
(Their eyes shimmering with a fiendish, eldritch malevolance...)
Our steel is raised against their weapons of gleaming crystal,
And the virgin snow is rendered crimson by bloodshed in a searing storm of
slaughter.
(Wounded, dying, my flesh rent by weapons no human ever forged or wielded, I
am beckoned forward by a strange, alluring force from beyond the veil of
swirling mists...)
Shadows, images form in the glittering rune-carved walls of this glacial
chamber,
Secrets frozen within the timeless vaults of eternity...
The throne of the time-lost ice realm, entwined in the mantle of such searing
star-born power...
This frozen, aeon-cloaked seat of immortal majesty... (of an empire forged
long before the vast seas rose in devouring fury!)
What shimmering swords raised in combat once sang with the glorious clamour
of steel on steel?
What splendid banners, billowing in the icy gales, once heralded the march
of these invincible silverclad legions to the blood-swathed embrace of epic
battle?
The glory of untold thousands of years past... this ethereal legacy of
mighty Ultima Thule.
The frozen eyes of immortal kings watch me... such a dark splendour!
The Guardian of Ice and Shadow:
The grim Ice-Gods sleep in these frost-bound tombs, illumined by the caress
of lunar fire,
And the kiss of star-gleam from the stygian void...
All is now as was foretold in prophecy, written in the very ether of empyreal
eternity...
The celestial alignment is night... the conjunction is at hand!
And nine stars illumine the northern heavens, a vast cosmic sigil with the
silvern moon at its centre...
Blazing argent light fills the chamber, engulfing the hewn walls of elder ice,
These ancient carvings in a time-veiled tongue, (etched into the primeval ice
countless aeons ago, now bathed in diaphonous incandescence by this storm of
lucent stellar power, their mindsearing meaning at last becomes known to me...)
their cosmic secrets unfold...
The ice-throne is encased by a shimmering wall of writhing cerulean flame,
A lambent flame far colder than the frozen surface upon which it dances...
And then, enlightenment comes, gleaming down upon my consciousness as the
bright moon gazes down upon this auroral vista... From my mind is lifted an
obscuring veil, a veil induced by sorcerous arts, and I realize I have been
merely a vassal of another's twisted will, a pawn in a game which is entwined
in treachery and malign aspirations to thresholds of great power. Such a
traitorous web has been spun! The elders of my kingdom bow in obeisance to the
vile priests of Xothan'kur, and it is their diseased machinations which have
urged me here, to the very heart of the far-fabled ice realm... for they seek
to usurp the power of the Conjunction, stealing the vast energies of the
Ice-Veiled throne and absorbing them into their own leprous, undead bodies, pe
rpetuating the adoration of their abhorrent liege for countless ages,
liberating his vile will and enslaving the realms of the world... Aye, for
generations they have plotted their actions, and I was the key to this plot,
chosen from birth for this fated journey... for the blood of the ancient kings
of Ultima Thule runs strong in my veins, and only once in every aeon may one
such as I stand before the throne during the great cosmic alignment, when the
sorceries of the ancient Ice-Gods are at their peak, and rightfully wield this
power unleashed... And yet I vow that the vile minions of Xothan'kur shall not
prevail... Liberating the fettered power of the moon-crystal, I sever the
tendrils of their dark conjurings, and their aspirations are at an end, th
eir spells broken by the very power which they sought to usurp! The final
vestiges of mortal life flee my body in crimson gouts, and at last I realize
what the fates have spun for me, and what is carved in the very ice all about
me... My destiny is at ha nd...
[The Herald of Enlightenment:]
And so, enrob'd by tendrils of starfire and the raiments of lunar mist,
The immortal liege whose sceptred empire is eternity,
Sits enthroned and brooding over his dark realm once more.
The last of my life's blood spills to the ice, (as star-wrought destiny is at
last fulfilled.)
Swathed in freezing flame...
The mystic wolves of the frost-moon (slowly, silently) encircle me,
Their eyes are blazing azure, and their fur is whiter than the sublime snows.
Such power! I am the Chosen... the secrets of the earth and the stars are
unlocked before me...
I am destined to reign forever... to reign from the Ice-Veiled Throne of
Ultima Thule!
They are by far the least sensible band in the world. I also might mention here that they take themselves pretty seriously, are sponsored by a company that makes re-enactment weapons, and perform wearing chainmail, leather hoods and other such costumes. And that their front mans stage name is Lord Byron. Bless 'em.
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Just because you're self-aware doesn't mean you aren't fucking nuts.
Just a thought.
A fairly good thought actually.
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New Coheed and Cambria (http://www.punksandnerds.com/index.html)
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I am very much looking forward to the new Coheed and Cambria album. They rock. And the story stuff, pretentious as it is, appeals to my scifi geek side quite a bit.
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Nothing to see here, folks. No double post. Nope.
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They are by far the least sensible band in the world. I also might mention here that they take themselves pretty seriously, are sponsored by a company that makes re-enactment weapons, and perform wearing chainmail, leather hoods and other such costumes. And that their front mans stage name is Lord Byron. Bless 'em.
So almost like a LARP band. Wow. Also I never said "more pretentious," if memory serves; I merely said that Sufjan's song titles own. Which they do.
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I am very much looking forward to the new Coheed and Cambria album. They rock. And the story stuff, pretentious as it is, appeals to my scifi geek side quite a bit.
i can't find the story in their songs
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i can't find the story in their songs
It can be a bit difficult. The story is mixed up time wise among the albums.
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i can't find the story in their songs
It can be a bit difficult. The story is mixed up time wise among the albums.
you mean newer albums actually come first?
what are the titles again?
second stage turbine
In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through The Eyes of Madness
okay so...is IKSSE the third volume? and GAIB is the fourth, or the first volume?!?!?
HEAD EXPLODES.
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I don't think the content of the story is actually mixed up timewise like that. The band's first album, Second Stage Turbine Blade, is the story's second chapter. The new album is the fourth chapter. Well, part 1 of the fourth chatper. After they finish up chapter four, the plan is to go back and do chapter one. So they have two more albums of story left to go.
As far as the actual content of the story, it's not a very clear narrative. I own the two comic books they've put out so far, which takes things up through "Everything Evil," track 4 of SSTB. The comics make the story marginally clearer, but still, the lyrics are pretty tough as far as figuring things out. I think Claudio also has a bunch of musical cues that are supposed to represent certain things, but he hasn't done a lot of explaining about what each cue is supposed to mean.
Mostly I like the band for the excellent two-guitar interplay, catchy melodies, and the way they have one foot planted in the punk world and one in the 70's prog world.
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Good Apollo volume 1 is supposed to be the first half of the fourth chapter... they're supposed to release good apollo v. 2, and then the prequel to the whole story, which should make it easier to understand as a whole...
Just picked it up, by the way... it kicks so much ass
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And you guys don't all listen to Nightingale and Ayreon...why?
Oh yeah, I forgot. No pitchforky, No tinymixtapey!
If you guys lap this stuff up, you'd cream for Nightingale and Ayreon.
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I have been listening to the new Coheed album for over a week now i think, and it's the best thing to happen to my ears lately. That and the new Broken Social Scene have been pretty much the only things going into my head.
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Nightingale and Ayreon
The latter I enjoy, more than I should probably admit. The Human Equation is on my "list of albums to buy once I get a goddamn job already"
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i dont really like these bands that come out with a set of concept albusm that they want to do, or decide that every album has to be a concept story album, cos what do they do after the story is over?
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Attempt real music.
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i dont really like these bands that come out with a set of concept albusm that they want to do, or decide that every album has to be a concept story album, cos what do they do after the story is over?
In the case of Bowie, you just burn out in the eighties and release a video like "China Girl." Kids, we aren't to far from Coheed & Cambria's Let's Dance phase.
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i dont really like these bands that come out with a set of concept albusm that they want to do, or decide that every album has to be a concept story album, cos what do they do after the story is over?
Nightingale just started making normal albums with songs about existentialism, rain and the siege of Stalingrad. Stuff like that.
Johnny, if you enjoy Ayreon, you should definitely check out Nightingale. They're actually pretty closely related bands (Dan Swano, Nightingales front-man/erstwhile sole member is also a member of Arjen Lucassen's side-project Star One, and Arjen contrinuted a killer guitar solo to one of Nightingales albums in return.) Nightingales first album is pure straight-up Sisters of Mercy worship metal-tinged goth rock, but later albums get totally proggy. They're a bit like Ayreon, but more focused and guitar centric. Only one vocalist as well. If you want to test 'em out, try (tracks) 'Forever and Ever', 'Scarred for Life', 'Losing Myself' or 'State of Shock'.
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I read maybe three words of that Bal-Sagoth monstrosity, Khar.
WHY? FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS LISTENABLE, WHY?
I fucking hate Coheed and Cambria, by the way.
It's not just the pretension. Nay, that's trifle in my reasons for dislike.
It's basically that they sound like a bad Rush cover band. And I don't like Rush. Or progressive rock.
Or you.
noonch.
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WHY?
For great justice!
Also, why not ? Better than another song about how your girlfriend dumped you or how the Bush administration sucks, I say.
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I have to admire the dedication to the subject, but, christ... that's alot to digest, you know?
I guess I'm just not up to par after getting my fill of easy to swallow, sugary Indie Pop.
Also: I would have to agree on the content being better than "OMGI'MSOSAAAAAAAAAAD"
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To be honest, you can't really listen to Bal-Sagoth for the lyrics, except with headphones and booklet in hand. It's all about the music. Which is pretty good stuff.
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Hey guys, let's make a shitty concept album about Bush, and then not back up a single fucking statement! Way to teach the kiddies about FUCKING PERSUASION.
Yes, Green Day, I'm staring at you. Menacingly.
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I wasn't going to drop that can of worms, but I agree.
Although I think it should end with that.
I've seen too many threads gone the way of Dee-Lite due to Green Day arguments.
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I think everyone here (with a few exceptions) would take Coheed over Green Day anyday. At least Coheed is musically interesting.
Green Day's new album is simply so-so. And the fact that everyone is trumpeting them for having 15 minute tracks pisses me off, considering that said songs are merely a bunch of small songs pasted together.
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So? Big fucking deal. The Residents' Commercial Album had 40 tracks, and I know that's not the most tracks an album has had.
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The number of songs doesn't piss me off, it's the fact that some want to call them punk innovators when really it isn't.
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FIRST PUNK ROCK OPERA OMG
NO OF COURSE THE DECLINE WOULDN'T COUNT
WOOOOO
WOOOOO
EDIT:
Johnny, if you enjoy Ayreon, you should definitely check out Nightingale.
See this? This is what it looks like when I take a recommendation.
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Coheed & Cambria are one of the worst bands I have ever heard.
I'd understand if you don't like their style or pretentious nature, but worst band? Their guitar work is amazing. There's some really good stuff on their latest album. I know you play guitar Jeph, and you can't listen to The Final Cut and not appreciate what they do.
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FIRST PUNK ROCK OPERA OMG
NO OF COURSE THE DECLINE WOULDN'T COUNT
WOOOOO
WOOOOO
EDIT:
Johnny, if you enjoy Ayreon, you should definitely check out Nightingale.
See this? This is what it looks like when I take a recommendation.
I HART INFANTILE 'AMERICA SUCKS' POLITICAL COMMENTARY
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So? Big fucking deal. The Residents' Commercial Album had 40 tracks, and I know that's not the most tracks an album has had.
The biggest I own personally is Discordance Axis - Original Sound Version (69 tracks). The most ever is Anal Cunt - 5643 song EP.
I think that's pretty unbeatable.
As for length, I could put together a long last of tracks so long that it would blow any Green Day fanboy or fangirls mind.
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I have to get that EP.
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I M SOSOSOSO EXCITED LOL
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I HART INFANTILE 'AMERICA SUCKS' POLITICAL COMMENTARY
I heart eighteen-minute bursts of punk energy and solid songwriting. The lyrics I could care less about.
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I HART INFANTILE 'AMERICA SUCKS' POLITICAL COMMENTARY
I heart eighteen-minute bursts of punk energy and solid songwriting. The lyrics I could care less about.
Wait... you're not referring to Green Day still, are you? Because anybody who thinks 'Boulevard of Broken Dreams' constitutes quality songwriting must have a massive head injury.
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No. NoFX. The group which released The Decline, an EP featuring an 18-minute nonstop punk song.
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NoFX was on Network TV. ATTN: Irony on isle 5, we have a spill of hypocritical antiamerican retorict
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NoFX was on network television? Pray tell, what for: an interview regarding Warped Tour, or their video for "Bob?"
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Man people are being trolls about coheed and cambria? They're probably my favorite band. I actually found this website off the Cobalt and Calcium web forums. I don't like the fact that people are going more for the "over pretentious" angle are pissing me off. They're solid musicians at heart, that's all they'll ever be. The story is awesome, it's just hard to follow and i'm not a big fan of it. If Coheed and Cambria are over-pretentious, what are the mars volta? I haven't found one shred of even understandable lyrics, other then televators. (of course, the mars volta is another one of my absolute favorite bands because omar is a fucking god at guitar.)
Stop trolling coheed and cambria.
STOP comparing them to green day.
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I can understand when people deem Co&Ca annoying. Part of the music is overly dramatic, the geeky appeal might seem scary and Claudio's voice is ... er ... unique.
That said, I still like them.
But comparing them to Green Day is just plain uncalled for. It's just way too insulting.
Also, The Mars Volta's lyrics are understandable (sort of) if you know what the songs are supposed to say. Also, several images occur again and again in Cedric's lyrics (even stuff from the old ATD-I days) and if you understand those, they sort of serve as a key.
Also, the most accessible TMV song, lyrics-wise, has to be Concertina.
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no I'm not looking forward to it, and any debate in which sufjan is involved, I say he wins.
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Got the reissue of the first album recently. It's fucking awesome still, but the best part is the acoustic version of Junesong. It's actually brilliant.