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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: mberan42 on 06 Mar 2006, 12:43
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I'm looking for a good RPG for the PC. Not an MMO, though. What was the last FF to come out for the PC? Is it any good?
I need a game I can lose about 100 hours in the first go around, then another 120 or so getting everything, maxing every stat, etc.
Cheers.
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Well, that really depends on your taste in RPGs (i.e. you mentioned FF, and I never was able to get into the FF series, at all). Also, I don't know what you have played already, as the RPGs I like tend to be older ones. Anyways, my list of favorite RPGs (I've never gotten into consoles much, so all games I play are on the PC) is really short:
Fallout (1 and 2)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (1 and 2)
Advent Rising (sort of an RPG, with a reasonably good story co-written by Orson Scott Card)
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Depends, really. What's your priority here: gorgeous graphics or absorbing gameplay? If it's the former I really can't help you; but if it's the latter then I have no hesitation in steering you in the direction of the Ultima series. You'll have to download them, but Ultima IV was officially released for free download a number of years ago and is everywhere. Ultima V, if you can find it, is one of the greatest R.P.G.s ever created. You may also need to download MoSlo so you can run it on modern-day computers (these games date from the '80s), although it's entirely possible that if you download the games they'll have MoSlo already incorporated.
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are you just starting out in RPGs or which ones have you played. you asked about final fantasy so im assuming you have played one on the PC so i would recomend one such as 9 or 10 but im not sure if they hit the PC i only had them for PS1 and PS2 respectively.
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I need a game I can lose about 100 hours in the first go around, then another 120 or so getting everything, maxing every stat, etc.
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Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
And you also might want to try Fallout 2, Icewind Dale I + II, Neverwinter Nights (lots of additional free modules), Gothic I + II, Planescape: Torment (best story and chracters in an RPG ever) ....
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vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (patch it before you play it or else it sucks)
Baldur's Gate 1&2 plus expansions
Neverwinter Nights + expansions
The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
Fallout 1&2
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I'm gonna second Morrowind and Fallout 2. I'll also throw in Anachronox if you can find it. I couldn't but the demo seemed good.
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I'm gonna second Morrowind and Fallout 2. I'll also throw in Anachronox if you can find it. I couldn't but the demo seemed good.
Anachronox is a really great game.
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Sweet, thanks all.
Yeah, I've mostly played the FF series - 1, 2 & 3 on NES / SNES, 7 & 8 on PS1. Haven't played any since FFviii.
I guess I'm looking for something with decent graphics (a modern game, not something from the 90s) and a great storyline. Like I said, something I can play for 100 hours, then play again and get everything, max everything, etc.
Thanks.
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I have to second Baldur's Gate 1 + 2, best RPG I ever played.
I also recently got Fable: The Lost Chapters, and despite all the criticism, It's a really good game. I'm currently waiting patiently for Oblivion to come out, and praying that I won't have to upgrade my graphics card to support all the new games that will be released soon :p
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I guess I'm looking for something with decent graphics (a modern game, not something from the 90s)
Oh, then scratch Fallouts. Probably my favorite game ever, but the graphics aren't anything special, and it's most assuredly from the 90s.
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I guess I'm looking for something with decent graphics (a modern game, not something from the 90s)
Oh, then scratch Fallouts. Probably my favorite game ever, but the graphics aren't anything special, and it's most assuredly from the 90s.
Fallout 2 is 2001, I believe... as is Baldur's gate 2.
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Naw, Fallout 2 is 1998, with no modifications, at least graphically, to its predecessor, which was released in 1997. Tactics was released in 2001.
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Quest for Glory IV: The RPG that makes me wonder wtf all the other game designers have been doing the last 10-12 years since it came out...
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I guess I'm looking for something with decent graphics (a modern game, not something from the 90s) and a great storyline. Like I said, something I can play for 100 hours, then play again and get everything, max everything, etc.
It has to be said, the hallmark of a good game is not necessarily it's graphics, and this is especially true of RPGs. the best ones available for the PC are actually the ones with the worst graphics more often than not.
I've heard great things about Knights Of The Old Republic, but I got a faulty copy that refuses to work on my PC, so I can't judge.
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Knights of the Old Republic is amazing. Alot of people tell me it's better on the Xbox, but those people are nuts. I played it on PC first and found it more fun than on the Xbox. But whatever.
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KotOR is probably the first good Star Wars game after that deluge of games back when LucasArts was doing all sorts of things (Sam and Max, anyone?). Wait, Rogue Squadron was pretty cool. KotOR 2 is about 10 times better, and that's really saying something. It's got all the customization that I missed in the original, plus it's a lot longer.
It has to be said, the hallmark of a good game is not necessarily it's graphics, and this is especially true of RPGs. the best ones available for the PC are actually the ones with the worst graphics more often than not.
Hell, my absolute favorite game (Fallout 2) could be played completely text-based with almost no loss. RPGs very rarely use anything close to up-to-date graphics.
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I liked Kotor I better than two, myself.
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KotOR is probably the first good Star Wars game after that deluge of games back when LucasArts was doing all sorts of things (Sam and Max, anyone?). Wait, Rogue Squadron was pretty cool. KotOR 2 is about 10 times better, and that's really saying something. It's got all the customization that I missed in the original, plus it's a lot longer.
I recommend Republic Commando as well. Seriously, it's too awesome for words.
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Republic Commando is a ton of fun.
Back on topic though, I think your best bet is probably Morrowind. It has fairly recent graphics (like, 2001), and it's unthinkably vast.
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Quest for Glory IV: The RPG that makes me wonder wtf all the other game designers have been doing the last 10-12 years since it came out...
Marry me, right now. I will be back in Portland home in 2 months, we can consummate all sexy-like.
Also I, III and V. Especailly I. A moose head in every game. Also, my goodness antwerps!
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Quest for Glory IV: The RPG that makes me wonder wtf all the other game designers have been doing the last 10-12 years since it came out...
Marry me, right now. I will be back in Portland home in 2 months, we can consummate all sexy-like.
Also I, III and V. Especailly I. A moose head in every game. Also, my goodness antwerps!
Huzzah! We can have a quiet outdoor ceremony:
(http://www.quietcorn.com/qfg2k/images/eranasgarden.jpg)
However, I might suggest going to the inn afterwards instead of hanging around the garden, so as to avoid strange dreams ;)
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(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/937940406-00.gif)
Fucking kids and their 'graphics.' We had pixels the size of cinderblocks and we LIKED it.
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I'm currently waiting patiently for Oblivion to come out, and praying that I won't have to upgrade my graphics card to support all the new games that will be released soon :p
Yeah, my GeForce 6800, 2ghz processor and 1.5gb ram barely squeeks by!
http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/oblivion_faq.htm
Recommended:
* 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 1 GB System RAM
* ATI X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card
Minimum System Requirements:
* Windows XP
* 512MB System RAM
* 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 128MB Direct3D compatible video card
* and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
* 8x DVD-ROM drive
* 4.6 GB free hard disk space
* DirectX 9.0c (included)
* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Supported Video Card Chipsets:
* ATI X1300 series (OR HIGHER)
* ATI x600 series (OR HIGHER)
* ATI Radeon 9500 series (OR HIGHER)
* NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series (OR HIGHER)
* NVIDIA GeForce FX series (OR HIGHER)
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I second, third, and fourth any mention of Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate II + it's expansion. I spent an entire summer on BG2, beating the entire thing with 3 seperate, highly different characters on my part, and using different NPCs on each run, as well. All you need to know is that Keldorn is the best character, ever.
Neverwinter Nights is also really good if you're a D&D geek. The Diamond set is only $30 now and has EVERY expansion, IIRC. The main campaign is pretty lame, but the ones for the expansions are pretty neat.
If you are able to run DOS games, I suggest finding Betrayal at Krondor, one of the best games to ever, ever be made. Hell, the game single-handedly got me into reading, like, you know, actual books. I got into the author that was signed to do the story for the game (Raymond E. Feist) and it's just gone from there.
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Neverwinter Nights is also really good if you're a D&D geek.
When one player can have a half-hour heartfelt father/daughter talk with the person playing his character's daughter, and make it damn convincing, then I will accept that NWN is as good as D&D* :)
*D&D as played by theatre/english majors. Us CS types tend to min/max too much.
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When one player can have a half-hour heartfelt father/daughter talk with the person playing his character's daughter, and make it damn convincing, then I will accept that NWN is as good as D&D* :)
When you can interrogate a captured dark paladin using a half-orc fighter and an elven druid in the good cop/bad cop routine (me playing the half-orc, one of my best friends playing the druid, and the DM as the paladin), shortly after that half-orc fighter's epic-level sorceress aunt and the druid's epic-level mage of a wife engaged in a ritual spellcasting to move the moons and cause an eclipse of the sun to put the fear of god into an army of Pelorian worshippers being falsely driven to war by said dark paladins, with the result that siad sorceress and mage have been plased under a geas by Pelor himself to bring the dark paladins to justice as an atonement for interfering in the business of the gods, then NwN will get as good as DnD.
Likewise, when you can DM a campaign where one of the recurring bad guys is a vampiric sorceror who works for a red dragon the party are attempting to poison and kill, and never fights fair because he's always dissolving into his mist form and then reforming and attacking from alternate angles (not strictly kosher under the rules, but still HELLISHLY fun to do) then I will accept that computer-based RPGs can beat the pencil and paper kind. Sure, they're fun, but they just aren't as flexible, nor are they the same kind of social event.
Speaking of which, I've got a game of Shadowrun tonight. Our group is bodyguarding a Yakuza boss who's visiting New York from Japan. We have an elf raver with implant blades in her arms, a dwarf decker with an addiction to stimm-patches, another dwarf who has shotguns implanted into his bionic arms, loaded with EX-Explosive (anti-vehicle) rounds, a troll who can lift is own hover-truck off the ground when the engine's off, a mage who can unleash an unholy amount of damage, but tends to faint afterwards, a billionairess rock star based on Nina Hagen, and my covert-ops ninja-type guy with a taste for fine cigars, nonlethal takedowns, and a slightly luddite attitude towards cyber-modification.
We once torched an apartment by dousing it in cleaning fluids and then flicking a lit cigar through the window before rapelling off the balcony, and driving away on a bike driven by the shotgun dwarf. We were chased by a Lonestar bike trooper, who promptly went off the road when I put a throwing knife through his front tyre. Meanwhile, the rest of the team were ruining the career of the apartment's owner, who had proved a little disloyal to the Yakuza, by broadcasting a live feed of his wife in a compromising situation involving the elf and the mage, who was using illusion magic to disguise himself as a famous action film star, who in turn had been dosed with extra-powerful laxatives and was stuck in the toilet for the rest of the night. The feed was broadcast by the Dwarf decker, who used the line: "Hey, Mr. Yoshino! I didn't order your wife WITH SAUSAGE!!!" before broadcasting the footage onto the large screen at the international film festival Yoshino was attending, cut to Beethoven's "Ode To Joy". The footage won "Best surprise film".
Top THAT in a PC game.
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Ah, but a PC game you can play any time. Sure, it'll never be as good as a real game of DnD, but it can be reasonably close.
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Ok. If you want a D&D Ruleset based RPG, you DEFINITELY Go for Icewind Dale, Baldurs Gate Series, and Neverwinter Nights. Those games... My god, I LOVED Neverwinter Nights. NWN was a true single player masterpiece, though the graphics are a bit dated now, the expansions do improve them. Baldurs Gate is made by the same company as NWN and has a lot more strategy involved than NWN does, though NWN has a lot more in the way of custom mods. All of these games are set in the Forgotten Realms fantasy world, so it might help to check into that.
For non-D&D PC RPG Madness, I wouldn't really know what to suggest... The only ones I've played that weren't MMO were Diablo and Diablo II with the Lord of Destruction Expansion. They weren't bad games for their times, mind you, but I'm sure there are MUCH better games out there, though I did like the ability to play your game either online or offline, though much later in the game it pretty much boils down to either farming for items or doing the SAME thing over and over trying to get to lv99... And on single player that truly is hell... And if you get used to multiplayer you'll never play single player... EVER...
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Ok. If you want a D&D Ruleset based RPG, you DEFINITELY Go for Icewind Dale, Baldurs Gate Series, and Neverwinter Nights.
I can't speak for Icewind Dale, but avoid Icewind Dale II like the plague. Granted I never played Dungeons & Dragons so doubtless I missed a lot about the game, but that doesn't disguise the fact that it's just hour after hour after tedious hour of grinding hack 'n' slash, in severely restrictive environments, and as far as I got (after playing the game for several weeks and being onto only the second of seven or so chapters) absolutely nothing else. Awful. The people who made that game should hang their heads in shame.
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You shall blame Interplay. As for Baldurs Gate and Neverwinter Nights, all hail BioWare. They probably should have done Icewind Dale as well... But then they wouldn't have as much time to work on NWN 2... :D
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Well, more specifically, Icewind Dale comes from Black Isle Studios, the same people who brought us my favorite game ever (mentioned earlier) Fallout 2.
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first off although it was already mentioned you should check out
Star Wars: Kights of the Old Republic 1 and 2
Fable:The Lost Chapters
although Diablo 2 is a rpg it's more of a mmo even though it's not suppose to be
thats all i can think of now