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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: ScrambledGregs on 10 Dec 2006, 06:31
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I don't think I'm alone on this. Do you ever find yourself reading rave reviews, hearing about how great a game is from other people, and yet you just don't care to play it?? And I don't mean "everybody likes Madden 07, but I don't like football" sort of thing.
I was at EBGames two days ago, and they had a copy of Eternal Darkness for like $9. I know everybody loves this game, and I'm sure it's as good as people say....but I just don't care!! I'm the same way with Katamari Damacy. I'm sure it's fucked up crazy awesuma, but I can't imagine buying the game and playing it. It just doesn't seem like the sort of experience that interests me.
My friend Dave bought Metroid Prime the day it came out, and raved about it. I got maybe 5 or 10 hours in and lost all interest in the game. It's the kind of game, like those above, where I can say "this is a really great game, with plenty of originality and polish, but it just doesn't interest me."
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I'm sort of like this about the entire shooter genre in general. I can recognize a quality shooter from a bad one, but I don't really play them. I have Gears of War, and I know it's a great game and all, but in terms of playing time it is getting resoundly beat down by the likes of Zelda because those games just appeal to me more. Hell, I'm even playing Viva Pinata more than Gears of War.
Which is awesome, by the way. Don't be fooled by the appearance.
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pretty much all of the Final Fantasy series and pretty much every sports game ever made except for extreme sports
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Every FPS ever made.
Also, the GTA games. Its not that I don't see the appeal, its just that I get so fucking bored of them long before I ever finish them.
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Zelda: Wind Waker.
I played about two hours, beat the first dungeon, and decided I just didn't give a rat's ass about it. The sailing is ridiculous. I don't care how "awesome" the other dungeons are. I could beat the SNES Zelda game in about 3 hours, and this one barely starts at that point. Screw that!
GTA, but I also don't think it's a "great game." So that doesn't count.
Xenosaga Ep. I is one of the few games I wish I could get into but simply haven't found the time and energy to invest in the experience. That makes me sad.
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Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
GTA 3 and up (still love the original, but 3 and up fall into the same category as Halo for me)
Halo 1 & 2 (though that may have more to do with me thinking its not that amazing of a game period. good, but should have been scored in the 80's rather than the 98+ it averaged)
Silent Hill (I want to care about this series so badly since i love the genre so much, but i just can't)
The Elder Scrolls I - IV
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sad faces to ico and SoC.
btw to previous previous poster, nobody can beat zelda link tot he past in 3 hours.
the text in that game alone would take longer than 3 hours to go through.
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There's hardly any text in Link to the Past.
Anyway, the new Prince of Persia games. I just don't get it.
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Guitar Hero.
I don't get it.
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I just don't like the GTA games, too much garbage and so little good content.
Pretty much all sports games. If I pick up and play a football title, it soon gets old. No matter how much they rave about it or have supposedly "improved" it, after an hour or two it starts to feel like every other football game I've played. The same holds true for baseball. I like baseball, but I can't play the video games for any serious length of time.
Another series of games that were over-hyped were the Splinter Cell titles. I still hear my friends talk it up, but I don't get it. Granted, the stealth action games aren't really my cup of tea, but from what I've played, Splinter Cell doesn't hold a candle to MGS.
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Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion.
I pre-ordered the game, read all the reviews, was really excited to play it, it sounded awesome...
And I can't stand it. I don't like the premise, I don't like the game play, I don't like any of it. $60 down the drain.
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Shadow Of The Colosuss... barely touched the first boss before the "meh" set in.
Red Steel... oh noes, the hot japanese chick was stolen away from me. Too fucking bad, rescue yourslef for a change.
SiN Episodes... No. Just... no.
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Big Rigs.
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The entire Zelda series.
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Eve-Online.
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Xenosaga Ep. I is one of the few games I wish I could get into but simply haven't found the time and energy to invest in the experience. That makes me sad.
Consider yourself lucky. I thought Ep 1 was a great game, and I was pumped when Ep 2 finally came out. I played it for 2 hours and realized it's one of the worst games I've ever played. It's so bad it makes Xenogears less enjoyable.
Anyway, for me, the game I don't "get" is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. The sequel is amazing (or, it would have been had they bothered to fix the 9073785 bugs), but the first one is just mediocre.
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The entire Zelda series.
TAKE IT BACK!!!
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Xenosaga Ep. I is one of the few games I wish I could get into but simply haven't found the time and energy to invest in the experience. That makes me sad.
Consider yourself lucky. I thought Ep 1 was a great game, and I was pumped when Ep 2 finally came out. I played it for 2 hours and realized it's one of the worst games I've ever played. It's so bad it makes Xenogears less enjoyable.
Anyway, for me, the game I don't "get" is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. The sequel is amazing (or, it would have been had they bothered to fix the 9073785 bugs), but the first one is just mediocre.
Bah. KotOR was awesome. The sequel was a turd.
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The entire Zelda series.
TAKE IT BACK!!!
DO THIS NOW!
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Xenosaga Ep. I is one of the few games I wish I could get into but simply haven't found the time and energy to invest in the experience. That makes me sad.
Consider yourself lucky. I thought Ep 1 was a great game, and I was pumped when Ep 2 finally came out. I played it for 2 hours and realized it's one of the worst games I've ever played. It's so bad it makes Xenogears less enjoyable.
Anyway, for me, the game I don't "get" is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. The sequel is amazing (or, it would have been had they bothered to fix the 9073785 bugs), but the first one is just mediocre.
Bah. KotOR was awesome. The sequel was a turd.
Honestly, i thought the only thing to keep the sequel from being better than the first in every manner was the fact that Lucasarts pushed it out before the game's ending was finished. Otherwise, it was an improvement in every respect.
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I'd have to vote for GTA3 as well.
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Shit, I love KOTOR1. I've played it a ton of times, and that's saying a lot, since I rarely finish games, let alone play them more than once. The only thing that's kept me from getting the second one is people complaining about bugs, and waiting for it to drop to $20.
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I agree with the parts about shooters.
Zelda: A Link to the Past. I love the original and I love Ocarina of Time, but I don't care much for Link to the Past, even though it's almost universally considered the best of the series.
Regarding Shadow of the Colossus, I was rather disappointed with it. There were some really great things in it, but the colossus fights get very monotonous, particularly in the middle of the game, and it's extremely predictable and formulaic. The first few fights are great, the world is amazing, and the last colossus is spectacular (and the story, when it progresses, is interesting), but overall it gets rather tedious. If there were fewer colossi, more things in between, and the whole thing weren't so predictable, it would have been a great game. As it is, it seems to me that it had great potential, and some brilliant moments, but as a whole it was far too weak. Especially after Ico, which I loved all the way through.
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*puts on flame proof suit*
i hate Metal gear solid
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I just noticed that I've read this thread multiple times and have never said Ico.
So I will say Ico. I recognize it as an atmospheric work of art.
I also recognize it as frustrating and boring. MEH!
I also didn't get the GTA series until I played Vice City. Tommy Vercetti quickly became one of my favorite characters and I began to recognize the games for what they were: a satire. Rockstar's twisted humor and perspective on American society made flesh in a series that rejuvenated the idea of sandbox gaming.
Now I approve, though the gameplay kinda sucks still.
I haven't enjoyed any MGS game since the first. Which adds to my PS3 mehness.
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There really isn't a reason to buy a next gen system that I've seen.
The big draw games (for me anyways) are Dead Rising and Gears of War. Dead Rising is a novel concept, but it gets repetitive fast. Gears of War I can simulate on my PC by playing Halo with half the screen covered in tape. 3rd person shooter? Worst Idea Ever.
I'll break down and buy a PS3 IF Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection gets ported. Until then, Sony can take their overpriced console and forcibly insert it into their anus.
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3rd person shooter? Worst Idea Ever.
Haven't you ever played Resident Evil 4??
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3rd person shooter? Worst Idea Ever.
You've never played Resident Evil 4.
Fixed
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RE4 is a 2nd person shooter.
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"2nd person shooter"?
I don't think that means what you think it means.
It's a 3rd person shooter from a close, nearly 1st person angle.
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If you are not seeing the game from the eyes of the character, it is third person. Don't give me this 2nd person crap.
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Second person shooters would be a game where you play from the perspective of the person being shot at?
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I can see the appeal of Gears of War. I understand why other people play it. But it is so damn repetitive in my eyes, as with most other cover-based games.
-Start Level
-Hide behind some object, shoot bad guys who are also hiding behind objects
-Move to a new object, shoot new bad guys hiding behind new objects
-Start New Level
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I hate all Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii games because I don't own the systems.
not that I'm jealous or anything...
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Great Topics You Just Dont Care About!!
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Second person shooters would be a game where you play from the perspective of the person being shot at?
Yes. That is an SPS.
There's very few games I can name where this is the case. I think one of the Sly Cooper games had a boss like that. Turtles in Time for the arcade/SNES had a boss like that.
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I suspect that would make me very dizzy. I'll stick with first and third.
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Only games that come to mind for me are the Final Fantasy series.
I stopped giving a crap about em ages ago.
Am at the point where I'm just wondering when it'll actually be 'Final'.
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FF7. I played it, but honestly couldn't see what was awesome about it. Gave up before even seeing sephiroth.
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Red Steel
you know, i don't think that anyone heralded this as a great game. i never play it... thinking about selling it back to gamestop or something.
i'm a huge fan of the zelda series... but i'm playing through a link to the past right now and i just don't get it. how is this thought to be the best one of the series so far? seriously... someone please explain to me how link to the past is better than ocarina of time.
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seriously... someone please explain to me how link to the past is better than ocarina of time.
Cant be done. Simple as that.
The entire Zelda series.
You die today.
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Zelda is boring.
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seriously... someone please explain to me how link to the past is better than ocarina of time.
Easy. LttP did it first. OoT is pretty much completely a ripoff of LttP's plot, except LttP's dungeons were way better, the bosses were better, everything about it was just smoother and more awesome.
Which brings me to another game I don't care about:
OoT. Ooooh. You can ride a horse. Whoopty-frickin'-doo.
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FF7. I played it, but honestly couldn't see what was awesome about it. Gave up before even seeing sephiroth.
Here, here, fellow forum neophyte! I liked the FFs for SNES but just couldn't get into this one. I didn't care for the materia system, and none of the characters really elicited my sympathy. Plus, Sephiroth and Cloud looked like they should be working at Hot Topic.
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Easy. LttP did it first. OoT is pretty much completely a ripoff of LttP's plot, except LttP's dungeons were way better, the bosses were better, everything about it was just smoother and more awesome.
Which brings me to another game I don't care about:
OoT. Ooooh. You can ride a horse. Whoopty-frickin'-doo.
I can't even begin to describe how much I disagree with this. Sure, if you reduce Ocarina's plot down to the most basic level, it is also run-around-rescue-the-sages, but there's so much more to it than that. Ocarina actually developed the characters to the point where it told a cohesive story. I mean, finding out Sheik was Zelda in disguise just added so much more to her backstory, and even minor characters like Saria, Impa or Ruto had their details fleshed out in a way that Link to the Past never even approached.
Plus, Jabu-Jabu's Belly alone annihilates every dungeon in Link to the Past by comparison. Ocarina was just a perfect translation of the series into 3-D, and that just allowed for much deeper gameplay and dungeon design.
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Plus I can beat OoT. I always get to a point in the Dark World where LttP decides to just cloud its intentions and fuck with me for a few hours, so I never actually completed it. On the other hand, I didn't even own OoT but I played it enough at a friend's house (N64 marathons for the win) to beat it.
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Zelda is boring.
Says the poster with the Pikachu avatar. Gee, what's more boring...a poorly disguised dungeon crawler with a ridiculous number of characters you have to 'capture', or an action/adventure RPG that has some of the most imaginative gameplay the world has ever seen?? Tough call.
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Easy. LttP did it first. OoT is pretty much completely a ripoff of LttP's plot, except LttP's dungeons were way better, the bosses were better, everything about it was just smoother and more awesome.
Which brings me to another game I don't care about:
OoT. Ooooh. You can ride a horse. Whoopty-frickin'-doo.
are we talking about the same link to the past, here? i'm so bored with it that i barely ever play it.
i agree with you, storm ^_^
p.s. this is actually toastess/yelley under the boy's name
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Easy. LttP did it first. OoT is pretty much completely a ripoff of LttP's plot, except LttP's dungeons were way better, the bosses were better, everything about it was just smoother and more awesome.
Which brings me to another game I don't care about:
OoT. Ooooh. You can ride a horse. Whoopty-frickin'-doo.
Ok, Your opinion of not really enjoying OoT I can accept merely due to differences of opinion... but did you play the same LttP as I did? Cause that makes no sense, at all.
If you could, please explain how OoT is a complete ripoff of Lttp story wise.
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You're awakened by an uncle/friend to save someone, but fail. Along the way you learn of a plot against the world and have to go collect three items to get the Master Sword and stop the evil, but it goes horribly wrong and you're transported to the dark world/future. There you have to find 7 princesses/sages to open the entrance to Ganon's Castle and have an epic showdown with him to keep him from getting control of the Triforce forever.
Twilight Princess also rips off this plot pretty hard.
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pretty much all the Final Fantasy stuff is boring repetitive cutesy anime shit.
Resident Evil 4 is unplayable scripted tripe. I've covered this at length previously, but the controls are clunky and awful, the gameplay is contrived and unrealistic and you're very very limited in what you can do.
Pro Evo Soccer / Winning 11 is graphically inferior with clunky controls and a cut-back club list. I don't understand why people prefer it over FIFA, except for the indie-style "at least it's not made by EA" excuse.
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You're awakened by an uncle/friend to save someone, but fail. Along the way you learn of a plot against the world and have to go collect three items to get the Master Sword and stop the evil, but it goes horribly wrong and you're transported to the dark world/future. There you have to find 7 princesses/sages to open the entrance to Ganon's Castle and have an epic showdown with him to keep him from getting control of the Triforce forever.
Twilight Princess also rips off this plot pretty hard.
You just described the base story in pretty much anything fantasy based... ever.
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No, just every goddamned Zelda game, with few exceptions.
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so what if all the zelda games have basically the same storyline? it's one that works and that keeps people interested. aside from you, at least.
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Yeah, well.
According to Jim keeps people interested too. I don't like people.
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unrealistic
I haven't played RE4 but I am presuming setting limitations on realism for a game about zombies is not, well, realistic.
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Halo and Halo 2. I mean, yeah, they're good games. I just don't get all the raving about it. I dunno, maybe it's just because I suck noodles at console shooters.
Also, Final Fantasy, for the above reasons. Yeah, they're kinda fun, but I don't get why there's practically a cult following for them. Actually, pretty much every Final Fantasy-type RPG. Yeah, they're not half bad, but they're not the OMGWTFBBQGOOD! games that everybody calls them, IMO.
Also, Kingdom Hearts. I'm sure it's a perfectly good game, but the concept of a game that combines both Final Fantasy and Disney characters just gives me a mental syntax error. Does not compute or some shit.
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Halo and Halo 2.
easily, without a doubt, the most over rated games in the history of the industry. and no that's not hyperbole. and no, i don't just suck at them either. i've played both extensivly, beating both single player games and participating in multiple bouts of multiplayer, lans, and xbox live as well. and my conclusion remains consistent. these games are good at best. plot wise they're nothing special. graphics wise they're bested by numerous other titles, even titles released at the same time as, or before, them. the gameplay is far from original: run around with kinda cool guns, shoot aliens, repeat. even the level design is far from spectacular. in fact, the levels are at times laughably linear and unimpressive. i have never understood the attention these games garner and i doubt i ever will. for me, they are major dissapointments and come no where near living up to the hype.
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Word. ^
In fact- fuckin' paragraph.
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100% agree with you Wombat
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At least we can laugh our asses off at all the fanboys who line up in the cold to buy Halo 3 on launch day.
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All Metal Gear Solid games. I just don't get it.
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As I've admitted in Gabbly, I've never actually played a Metal Gear Solid game.
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Meh, you're not really missing much.
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Meh, you're not really missing much.
Personally, I found Metal Gear Solid rather enjoyable. MGS2 sucked, though. Or at least, the little bit I played did. I haven't played any of the ones after MGS2, but I'm assuming they suck too.
(and now to maintain a veneer of relevancy to the thread's stated topic) As for great games I don't care about... I know I'm forfeiting my geek cred when I say this, but a lot of so-called "classic" 8-bit-era games leave me cold. Especially Zelda and Metroid. I guess maybe if my misspent childhood had been misspent playing them instead of running around outside being a dumb kid I'd feel differently, but, well, it wasn't! So I don't!
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sadly, being a huge fan of the 8-bit era, I can very easily see someone not being able to stand 8-bit games. Especially from franchises that were improved so goddamn much on the SNES.
Everyone owes it to themselves to play games like Crystalis though, that game was like a clone of the first Legend of Zelda gameplay wise... but better in every single way possible.
Oh yeah, every Final Fantasy past VII, and VII almost fall into this category just for the fact that it's one of the most overrated games in history. IV and VI though... absolutely golden. Still regularly bust those out on the PC.
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I consider FFIV vastly overrated.
It's artificially long and has almost nothing unique in it.
FFVI, OTOH, is sexy brilliance.
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Also, World of Warcraft. Same problems as Halo, although I'm better at WoW then Halo. Yeah, it's a good game, maybe even the best MMO I've ever played. Still, it's not the soul-sucking, life-destroying digital monstrosity everybody calls it. Unless you have issues with that sort of thing.
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All Metal Gear Solid games. I just don't get it.
i have to agree as well. i've only played bits and pieces but what i have played didn't impress me or hold my attention. one of my biggest complaints with those games is the controls, which i simply can't get a hang of. it's almost like they're intentionally difficult. also i like my games the most when i'm playing them. when 1/3 of the game is cut scenes, i feel a little ripped off. not that story isn't important and cut scenes are often essential, but it's not neccessary to make them so prominent. i like the premise of these games, but again i don't really get the heaps of hype. for me, they don't compare to the splinter cell, or even the hitman series.
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I am really confused by the "volume of cutscenes" argument. I enjoy RPGs but basically I would say that every RPG I've played and loved was at least 1/3 cutscene, at least up until the token non-linear portion. Add to that the fact that the gameplay in a lot of RPGs is really quite static and you have a confusing double-standard. I can also think of a lot of games which are heavy on cinematics but are really great nevertheless. There are a lot worse potential traits for video games than a consistent dedication to storytelling.
I prefer to judge the game based on the quality of the gameplay experience rather than the quantity, and that includes the cutscenes.
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I am really confused by the "volume of cutscenes" argument. I enjoy RPGs but basically I would say that every RPG I've played and loved was at least 1/3 cutscene, at least up until the token non-linear portion. Add to that the fact that the gameplay in a lot of RPGs is really quite static and you have a confusing double-standard. I can also think of a lot of games which are heavy on cinematics but are really great nevertheless. There are a lot worse potential traits for video games than a consistent dedication to storytelling.
I prefer to judge the game based on the quality of the gameplay experience rather than the quantity, and that includes the cutscenes.
the point about the rpgs applies, as far as i can tell, to traditional console rpgs, not to pc rpgs which, frankly, i consider to have a lot more role playing in them. the FF series, for example, is rather static and linear and the only role playing comes in deciding where to place experience points. for me, this isn't true role playing. the cut scenes only enforce this because it feels more like i'm playing a predetermined character in a predetermined world with predetermined outcomes. for me, this isn't role playing at all and i think 'action adventure' would be a better genre title for such games. but take other rpgs, i mentioned arcanum and i add to that neverwinter nights, the gothic series, the elder scrolls series, and the fallout series, as well as deus ex and vampire: blood lines. for me, these are true rpgs where you determine what happens, you create and inhabit your own character, and the story isn't already completly laid out. there is so much more depth in these games and this depth would certainly be subverted if cut scenes played an integral part, mainly b/c the game would become less personal and more predetermined. i like feeling like i'm in control in rpgs and when i have tons of expostion spoon fed to me independant of my actions it's a little jarring. sure there are games with lots of cut scenes that are amazing. no one lives forever actually had tons of very long cut scenes and certainly wasn't a worse game for it. cut scenes have their place and are important, but i don't really find them neccessary en masse in a lot of games. story is very important and i won't not play a game b/c of the volume of cut scenes but sometimes they're over done to the point of compromising the game in some way.
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Well I don't know. Half-Life 2 had literally zero cut-scenes because you were always in control of your movements but damned if it wasn't tremendously linear. I think if you aren't playing Metal Gear Solid because you feel there are too many cutscenes then you're just hurting yourself.
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Well I don't know. Half-Life 2 had literally zero cut-scenes because you were always in control of your movements but damned if it wasn't tremendously linear. I think if you aren't playing Metal Gear Solid because you feel there are too many cutscenes then you're just hurting yourself.
oh i understand that and that certainly isn't my main reason for not playing the games for that would be foolish. the truth is i have played them, or tried to, and for some reason they simply didn't hold my attention like i was hoping they would. i again site splinter cell, for the stealth gameplay dynamic is similar in both games, as a game in a similar vein that i found immersive and thoroughly enjoyable, so it's not just the more cathartic and deliberate gameplay i don't like. in fact, in splinter cell if i set off any alarms i tend to reload from my last save since i like being as stealthy, and therefore that usually means as slow, as possible. same with the hitman games. there's just something about mgs that i can't get in to. the controls certainly play a part but in general i just don't find the games to be all that much fun. idk, i'm sure i'm just missing something.
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Every generic RTS that is released these days. They are so damn boring and predictable. Warhammer 40k - Dawn of War: Dark Crusade most certainly is the pinnacle of this. Whee more races. Whoop-d-shit. (Never mind the stupidly long title.)
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Dance Dance Revolution. I mean, if I want to look bad at dancing, I would get drunk at a club.
Zelda WindWaker. Stupid sailing...
Doom 3. Overhyped. Never even tore open the packaging on one of the games. It's not the Doom I grew up with.
Half-Life 1 or 2. Just... don't care.
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Halo 1 and 2. What exactly was innovative about this shooter?
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Also, Kingdom Hearts. I'm sure it's a perfectly good game, but the concept of a game that combines both Final Fantasy and Disney characters just gives me a mental syntax error. Does not compute or some shit.
I agree completely. I don't consider myself a "gamer," but I do buy games pretty selectively to what I know I'll like. For some reason, I listened to everyone who said this was a great game and shelled out the $50 for it and regretted it a few hours into the game. The mix of Disney and FF characters made for what I thought was an awkward (at best) story. I also just didn't like the look of it--I get that it's supposed to be cartoony but I just found the design of the main characters (not the cameos) obnoxious. The controls, battle, etc. were pretty good (I thought), but it wasn't enough for me to forget about all the things that annoyed me.
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Halo 1 and 2. What exactly was innovative about this shooter?
It broke new ground in mediocre shooters selling astoundingly well.
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astute comment sir...I could literally feel the CTRL C CTRL V style of mapmapking oozing from the low res textured walls
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World of fucking Warcraft. The most BORING thing I've ever played. You'd have to pay ME to get me to play.
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::gets out his wallet::
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Does that work? I can certainly use more the cash to pay my EVE subscription(s).
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The Halo games are overrated, very good, but they really are bigger than themselves at this point. However they aren't the most overrated games ever. That title goes to Final Fantasy VII. Gameplay is alright, graphics were good for their time (not great), story is weak as far as FF games go, the ending is a terrible anticlimax, and if it weren't for the marketing blitz behind it, it wouldn't be as highly regarded.
All the FF games for the PS1 qualify for great games I don't care for. 10 and 12 on the PS2 were great improvements, but still not up to Final Fantasy 6 in my opinion.
World of Warcraft I don't care for, as it is another game that's grown bigger than itself. Its a good MMO, but I don't like MMOs. MMOs destroy their surrounding fiction by bringing a bunch of idiots in to populate the world. You can't have a real story with 8 million people playing, its too unwieldy. You can either have the players all be heroes instrumental in the storyline which defeats the illusion, a'la Guild Wars, or you can have the players be entirely inconsequential, and the storyline goes on despite them, not because of them. that defeats the whole point of games.
Metal Gear Solid series, I've said it many times, Hideo Kojima missed his calling. He should be making movies, not games. And right now the line is pretty blurry, there's that many cutscenes.
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Majora's Mask. I didn't HATE this game, but jesus christ do I think it's amazingly overrated.
Sadly, also Ocarina of Time. I loved the game, but I thought Wind Waker was leaps and bounds better in practically every way.
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Does that work? I can certainly use more the cash to pay my EVE subscription(s).
I've lost many a gamer to Eve :-P Fortunately I have time nor money to lose myself.
I never liked Eve because it seemed a little too...point and click for me. I'm not saying its not a good game (if you like mining and diplomacy) but a flight sim it aint. I can't remember if it markets itself as such....but yeah...
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Twilight Princess. I play Wii Sports all the time, but Zelda just fell from memory.
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Reading other posts reminded me...
I fucking HATED Majora's Mask. I don't mind experimenting with the gameplay formula of the Zelda series, but not like this. Arbitraty time limits also ruined Pikmin for me. Bah!!
World of Warcraft. I have a handful of friends who I don't see much of, mostly because they moved to other states, but partially because all they do is sink hours and hours into this game. I have never played it, I shall grant that, but I find little motivation to do so. Despite attempts to gussy-up the interface of the MMORPG genre, it's still a level grind fest no matter how you slice it.
Final Fantasy VIII. I hate hate hate hate hate this game. I hate the gamplay, the story, and the graphics.
Chrono Cross. Take my favorite RPG ever, make a misguided, confusing, convoluted semi-sequel to it with a huge cast of amazingly unappealing characters and voila!! I will vomit.
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I think World of Warcraft is awful, but not because I hate MMORPGs. In fact, much of my life was spent playing Asheron's Call and Dark Age of Camelot. I think that the problem with WoW is that it's PvP system is really flawed... Then again, I'm spoiled because DAoC has an amazing PvP system and it's hard to come close to that. Also, it's VERY hard to solo in WoW. I've always liked living on the fringe in MMORPGs and it's damn near impossible to solo in WoW. Reward the solo players, please! DAoC has a good system for it, why don't you? I could go on but I'm not going to for the sake of anyone who happens to read this...
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Yeah, I was gonna bring up WoW. So many people yap on about it, but I just don't care. Whoops.
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I'm also in the "Wow=meh" camp. I've watched Kokeyjoe play it a few times, and it looks amusing enough, but I couldn't care less about playing it myself.
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I dunno, everyone around here can say what they want about World of Warcraft (as I've noticed the general consensus is to hate WoW unless you actually play it), but I'll say this much... when my girlfriend lives over an hour away, and my brother lives six or seven states away, it's awesome there's something I can do with both of them when we're apart and that something lets me stab things and kill things in a video game. That's the main reason I'm still playing it.
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Stock Response #2
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WoW is the ultimate "everyone can enjoy it" MMORPG. It's easy enough for casual players, but has a load of shit to do for hardcore players.
My complaint with it is that, because it's so popular, it doesn't take any risks in game design or philosophy. But it's still pretty fun.
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Uh. Get some webcams and make some remote porn with the gf?
But that still leaves out quality time with my brother. Pleeease try not to prescribe the same treatment for that situation.
P.S. Mad webcam pronz coming soon to a thread near you.
P.P.S. Not really.
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Uh. Get some webcams and make some remote porn with the gf?
Mike needs to make up a list of stock responses and just post numbers. I propose placing this one at #2 on the list.
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Fun times?
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I thoroughly approve of the course of action you took.
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I am glad I could play some small part in this legendary notion, no matter how small.
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Honestly, Final Fantasy games.
They are very well made, well produced games, but I'm not really into the whole trend of games turning more into interactive movies than games.
I'm also not really into the whole emo main character thing we see with Cloud, Squall, and Tidus.
I don't like a lot of the great games that come out today. I started playing in the NES era where they didn't try to have a plot, and they didn't have the technology to have impressive graphics. Games were designed around just the game engine being really fun to play. You could just pick up a game and play it and have fun, rather than having to sit through a half hour of cutscenes between actually playing it.
For instance, I'm finding Zelda: Twilight Princess frustrating. The main engine of the game is really fun, and the dungeons are really well made. But, you hardly ever get to play the dungeons. You have to do a lot of stupid minigames like jousting, sumo wrestling, goat herding, and bobber fishing and run a lot of little errands.
I'd enjoy the game a lot more if they just threw you in a world and told you generally where to go, as is the case with Zelda: Link To The Past, rather than trying to have a story and minigames.
I also really enjoy the challenge of games, but with new games there's no learning curve that forces you to get better at the game. You can generally pick up a game cold and coast through it, maybe dying a few times here and there.