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Title: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 Jan 2007, 21:14
I shit you not. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117957532.html?categoryid=1236&cs=1&p=0)

I am hells of excited.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Will on 17 Jan 2007, 21:19
I showed this article to Austin (kokeyjoe) just now, and I think he made a mess on the rug...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: kokeyjoe on 17 Jan 2007, 21:45
But I cleaned it up!

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about this development.  I've always wondered how this would work as a movie trilogy or series, and I just never thought it could keep up the momentum enough to make a series of films... without ruining the story, at least.  I've thought it could be cool as a sort of animated thing, as long as it was done faithfully and with quality all around.

This live action serial series kinda thing... I'm a bit worried.  Obviously, it could be awesome, or it could be terrible.  But it could also be enough for me to subscribe to HBO.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 17 Jan 2007, 22:34
Iiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.

"The series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and the intention is for each novel ... to fuel a season's worth of episodes. Martin has nearly finished the fifth installment, but won't complete the seven-book cycle until 2011."

I wonder when they'll start writing it? I'd guess series premiere in 2009.

And fuckbeans, 2011 for the last book?!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Hat on 18 Jan 2007, 01:24
I have not read this books, but I googled around and they actually sound pretty damn awesome. So I am probably going to read these before the show comes out.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Trollstormur on 18 Jan 2007, 01:59
I'm jerking off with one hand as i type this


that is how excited i am.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: elcapitan on 21 Jan 2007, 17:26
No. Just no.

Seriously. There is no way this series can be done justice on the screen. The scale of the narrative alone is enough for this. Hell, Daenerys' tromping around in the East is enough to support a TV series.

Also, they optioned and adapted Pattern Recognition. Argh.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alarra on 21 Jan 2007, 23:37
I have to get cable now...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 21 Jan 2007, 23:40
i have never read these books but after looking into them just now, i really really want to. i'm assuming you'd all recommend it based upon what's already been written in this thread. am i right? it sounds very cool, and i've been looking for something lengthy to occupy my time.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alarra on 22 Jan 2007, 00:30
It's clearly the best fantasy series currently out there. Martin is an amazing writer and everyone should read these books.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JJMitchell on 22 Jan 2007, 22:18
It is the best fantasy series I've read in a long long time.
The wheel of time series, while great, needs to end.  I can see Martin keeping my interest much longer if all the books are as good as the ones out now.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 23 Jan 2007, 05:00
Man. To hell with all of you. I'll come out right now and say it:

A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE IS BETTER THAN ANY OF THE TEDIOUS CRAP TOLKIEN EVER WROTE.

There we go.

Also, this is the only theoretical way ASoIaF could ever be given justice on-screen. If it doesn't pan out, nothing ever would.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 23 Jan 2007, 05:04
woah. that, sir, is a bold statement. very bold indeed. well you all have convinced me. i'm gonna pick up the first book at the local used book store (everything half off=awesomeness) tomorrow after midterms if i get the chance and see if that remark holds true.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 23 Jan 2007, 08:15
It is seriously the most unpredictable series I've ever read. I can't even explain how genius it is.

And I don't mean it like things just come out of left field. Everything makes sense and leads into itself very logically, but you never ever expect it to actually happen. You're always waiting for the deus ex machina, for the white knight, for the author to say "but that's not what's going to happen" and it does anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JJMitchell on 23 Jan 2007, 20:44
I think this series is more 'real life' like than any other fantasy I've ever read which makes it awesome.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alarra on 25 Jan 2007, 21:15
Man. To hell with all of you. I'll come out right now and say it:

A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE IS BETTER THAN ANY OF THE TEDIOUS CRAP TOLKIEN EVER WROTE.

There we go.

A bold statement....and true. Well...sorta true. I didn't really find Tolkien all that tedious. I like Tolkien. That being said....A Song of Ice and Fire is way better.

And Wheel of Time? Is not great. It stopped being great at least 4 books ago. It may have started out great, but my lord what is this tripe Jordan is currently trying to pass off as fantasy literature now?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: bff on 30 Jan 2007, 20:11
I like to describe the series as "fantasy for grown-ups"; it is really great.  One word of warning:  don't get to attached to any of the characters, Martin has no compunction what-so-ever about killing people off.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 31 Jan 2007, 08:22
My favourite death was when x killed y on the z.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JJMitchell on 31 Jan 2007, 08:24
Dude.
You might want to not spoil it for those that haven't read the books.

Seriously.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 31 Jan 2007, 10:02
Whoa. Man.

Seriously.

Not cool!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Mnementh on 31 Jan 2007, 10:42
SMF needs someone to make a spoiler tag that works.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JJMitchell on 31 Jan 2007, 10:44
Dan is my hero.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 31 Jan 2007, 13:03
Dang, sorry 'bout that - I figured everyone who comes into this thread has read it before.

Thanks, Dan.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: kokeyjoe on 01 Feb 2007, 03:53
Wait, wait, wait... it was x on the z ??  Crap, I thought it was Col. Mustard in the study.  (With the candlestick, I believe.)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 07 May 2009, 14:09
Necro-bump

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30b29365238b3652e08e2efdc7f0af62

Peter Dinklage to play Tyrion.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 07 May 2009, 15:16
I'm still trying to figure out how they'd handle Kingslayer if they chose to go beyond the first book. Martin somehow managed to make me kinda like the guy, which is pretty amazing, all things considered. Without being privy to his thoughts and perspective, I'd imagine he'd seem like an even bigger asshole. Although, on further reflection, that's not necessarily a bad thing, although it'd certainly take an adjustment on my part. It probably doesn't matter at all for Game of Thrones, since Jaime doesn't do anything remotely redeemable in that one anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: MrBridge on 07 May 2009, 16:02
Quote from: http://grrm.livejournal.com/
Winter Is Coming... to HBO

    * Apr. 21st, 2009 at 11:38 PM

ireland
At last it can be told.

The news has finally been made public, so I'm finally free to whoop and holler and share the great news -- the HBO pilot of A GAME OF THRONES will start filming in October, in Northern Ireland. The announcement was made in Belfast. Here you go:

http://www.northernireland.gov.uk/news/news-ofmdfm/news-ofmdfm-210409-hbo-to-film.htm

Yes, I'm thrilled. Ireland should be a great place to film. And the facility we'll be using, the Paint Hall, is amazing as well:

http://www.northernirelandscreen.co.uk/page.asp?id=211

Before it was a film studio, the Paint Hall was part of Belfast's famous Harland & Wolff Shipyards, where the TITANIC and many other ships were constructed. The facility is pretty titanic as well. Of course, all of us connected with A GAME OF THRONES are hoping we'll fare somewhat better on our own maiden voyage.

Yes, Parris and I will be going over to Ireland this fall to see at least part of the filming. Not for the whole shoot, alas, I don't have time for that... but we have to be there for at least part of it. Maybe we'll see some of you in a Belfast pub.

There's lots of other exciting news on the pilot as well, but nothing I can share. Sorry, lips are sealed. You'll have to wait for Mr. Benioff and Mr. Weiss... and HBO.


Some more fun facts for y'all
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 08 May 2009, 02:21
Since this was bumped, and the following news doesn't warrant its own thread, but is tangentially related...

The "last book" of Jordan's Wheel of Time series that was to be completed by Brandon Sanderson is now going to be *3* books, bringing the "final" count to 15 + 1 prequel.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: MrBridge on 08 May 2009, 08:41
Which puts that series at about 5 books too many.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 08 May 2009, 13:03
So this is the first that i have ever heard of this and i am now hells of excited. If its anything close to Peter Jackson's take on LoTR i'll be ecstatic.

Which puts that series at about 5 books too many.

As much as i loved the first few books of The Wheel of Time it really needs to end soon and stretching it into 3 books is just flogging a dead horse.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 08 May 2009, 13:34
Which puts that series at about 13 books too many.

FYP
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: MrBridge on 08 May 2009, 13:57
Which puts that series at about 13 books too many.

FYP

Books 2 and 6 were pretty good too, how about a 5 book total trilogy?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 12 May 2009, 01:34
Let's Just hope this turns out better than Legend of the Seeker.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 13 May 2009, 21:15
Another note, this one more on topic. Neil Gaiman on some of George R.R. Martin's fans.

"George R.R. Martin is not your bitch." (http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html)

3rd item down.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Trollstormur on 14 May 2009, 08:37
I still maintain that that fat fuck needs to eat less pizza and watch less football so he doesn't fucking die before he's finished with soif.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: snalin on 26 May 2009, 07:09
Quote from: George's livejournal at May. 14th, 2009 at 1:06 AM
spent most of the last two days in bed, coughing and sleeping
Quote from: George's livejournal at May. 14th, 2009 at 12:37 PM
And now it appears I've passed on this cold/ flu / whatever to my assistant Ty, who has passed it on to his wife. A plague sweeping through New Mexico.

I hate feeling sick.

SWINE FLUUUUUU!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: NeverQuiteGoth on 26 May 2009, 13:51
SWINE FLUUUUUU!

That, like so many other media-covered "outbreaks" is just a cover story for Solanum. :wink:


On topic: Is there any word on when the SoI&F series is coming out? It did go into production a while ago didn't it?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 15 Jan 2010, 15:01
March or April of 2011:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/hbo-games-of-thrones-dailies-look-fantastic.html
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: FIXDIX on 15 Jan 2010, 20:07
I still maintain that that fat fuck needs to eat less pizza and watch less football so he doesn't fucking die before he's finished with soif.

After Robert Jordan died this is all I can think when I read Martin's blog now.

Also, for those who haven't seen yet:

Cast with photos (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/10/game-of-thrones-cast-with-photos-.html)

I've actually been re-reading ASOIAF (currently 200ish pages in A Clash of Kings) because for some crazy reason I was expecting the television series to be released later this year, not in the first quater of next. Ah well, looks like I'm just going to have to read some really good fantasy.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 03 Mar 2010, 07:06
http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/hbo-greenlights-game-of-thrones-.html

The series is now green-lit!! WOOooOOOoo!

(http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/gifspamming/Happy/suitsjump.gif)

SPOILERS :
If they continue making seasons, they'll get more expensive as they go.

Book 3 in particular has some epic battles and dragons, Danaerys has the whole Sullies fiasco, and the Red Wedding would be absolutely terribly graphic (if I remember correctly, Kate saws the head off of someone, lol)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 14 Jun 2010, 13:18
Winter is coming (http://www.hbo.com/#/index.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLtQsy0xJzXfMS8ypLMlMds7PK0mtKFHPz0mBCQUkpqf6JeamcjIysskng+TzSmwNDSwtLI0N2RjZGAF96xZ3)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 14 Jun 2010, 13:59
Oh my god ohmygodohmygod
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: De_El on 14 Jun 2010, 14:35
On the one hand, it's terribly exciting, but man when they call it a teaser they aren't fucking kidding. 
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 02 Aug 2010, 10:25
Well that can't really play a trailer for it when many of the cast members in the pilot were recast.  Any shot they were in is now garbage.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: FIXDIX on 12 Sep 2010, 19:00
Interview and production scenes (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1118917&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null)

Trailer (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1118723&autoplay=truell)

JIZZ
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 13 Sep 2010, 07:51
Interview and production scenes (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1118917&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null)

Trailer (http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html?view=grid&vid=1118723&autoplay=truell)

JIZZ

Those look awesome.

I'm slightly annoyed that they didn't dye Daenarys or Viserys's eyebrows.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 13 Sep 2010, 09:13
holy shit this looks epic, glad to finally see some production.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 13 Sep 2010, 13:31
http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: FIXDIX on 15 Sep 2010, 02:02
I'm slightly annoyed that they didn't dye Daenarys or Viserys's eyebrows.

Gahh, now it's one of those things that I never noticed and now that I have it's gonna mega bother me.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 15 Sep 2010, 08:36
I'm slightly annoyed that they didn't dye Daenarys or Viserys's eyebrows.

Gahh, now it's one of those things that I never noticed and now that I have it's gonna mega bother me.

It might be intentional.  My dad's hair is blonde (changes colours after spending quite a bit of time in the sun) so I can imagine something similar happening.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 19 Nov 2010, 13:55
Filming obliterated ecosystem of a protected beach in Malta (http://io9.com/5694571/filming-of-a-game-of-thrones-obliterated-the-ecosystem-on-a-protected-beach), I hope it was worth it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 20 Nov 2010, 06:33
those are some of the fakest looking clouds i have seen.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 20 Nov 2010, 12:34
What clouds?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 20 Nov 2010, 14:16
Oh fuck YES.

This, how did I not know about this.

And holy fuck Sean Bean is playing Eddard. ...How appropriate.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 29 Nov 2010, 15:03
New preview trailer up:

http://www.hbo.com/video/video.html/?autoplay=true&vid=1145144&filter=game-of-thrones&view=null
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ackblom12 on 29 Nov 2010, 15:19
One of these days I'll actually read these books. This show looks like it's gonna be fucking great.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 29 Nov 2010, 15:40
I've started reading this book last weekend. Finished Game of Thrones in two days. It's fucking awesome, a lot more 'sir this sir that' and nobility than I'm used to from my fantasy novel, but it was still good fun.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: scarred on 29 Nov 2010, 18:17
Trailer looks good enough, but I still haven't read the books yet. Or really had a tremendous desire to.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: SirJuggles on 29 Nov 2010, 21:48
Would love to read the series, but I'm not sure I really have the time to invest. Speaking as someone who has to finish a good story before I can even consider putting it down and doing anything else, how much time should I expect to invest in the books?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 29 Nov 2010, 22:37
A while. They're long and dense, and you're going to want to re-read to pick up on the million subtleties you missed on the first go round.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: SirJuggles on 29 Nov 2010, 22:48
Oh God it's Pratchett all over again.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 30 Nov 2010, 07:07
Except with decapitations and awkward/hilarious sex.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 30 Nov 2010, 18:18
You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 01 Dec 2010, 01:18
You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)

NO way.  The Lannister characters are by far the most interesting.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: benji on 01 Dec 2010, 06:03
You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)

I've actually very much found this not to be the case. One of the things I think he does really well is that, when you're reading a chapter from someone's perspective, I almost always want that person to succeed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 01 Dec 2010, 06:41
You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)
. . . when you're reading a chapter from someone's perspective, I almost always want that person to succeed.

I disagree with your assessment on several occasions over the length of the series.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 01 Dec 2010, 08:31
You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)

I've actually very much found this not to be the case. One of the things I think he does really well is that, when you're reading a chapter from someone's perspective, I almost always want that person to succeed.

Well yeah, this also tends to be true. The man writes really compelling characters, and during chapters focusing on a certain POV, unless it's someone like say Cersei, I generally want them to succeed, too. That being said, though, everyone I know who's read the books has one House that they want to see win, that they personally would fly the colors of, so to speak.


You will also probably end up endorsing at least one of the noble Houses' and hating the rest/at least one other.

(in related news, House Targaryen for life, all hail the Stormborn)

NO way.  The Lannister characters are by far the most interesting.

Haha, hilariously, the friend that introduced me to the books also loves the Lannisters. We get along well. It's the Stark types I tend to butt heads with, and the Baratheons, well fuck those guys.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: benji on 01 Dec 2010, 09:35
I might just be wishy washy. Back when I used to play Legend of the Five Rings a lot, I could never pick my favorite clan either.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 01 Dec 2010, 09:50
Haha, hilariously, the friend that introduced me to the books also loves the Lannisters. We get along well. It's the Stark types I tend to butt heads with, and the Baratheons, well fuck those guys.

Screw you, man. The Starks and Baratheons will have their revenge on all who opposed them. Winter is Coming after all.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: cyro on 03 Dec 2010, 02:35
Haha, hilariously, the friend that introduced me to the books also loves the Lannisters. We get along well. It's the Stark types I tend to butt heads with, and the Baratheons, well fuck those guys.

Screw you, man. The Starks and Baratheons will have their revenge on all who opposed them. Winter is Coming after all.  :mrgreen:

The Martells are pretty awesome. If they fuck up Oberyn, I will be pissed.

(Un)Fortunately, that's an age off yet.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: mberan42 on 08 Dec 2010, 15:33
By the way, http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/ has the full 11 minute Making Of preview they showed on HBO on Sunday.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Damnable Fiend on 09 Dec 2010, 18:47
I'm going to assume that the reason that video's not working for me is that I'm not in the US.

is this the same thing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVKp5nYxyI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EVKp5nYxyI)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 10 Dec 2010, 03:37
It worked for me and I'm not in the US, but yeah it's the same video.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: snalin on 10 Dec 2010, 05:20
worked for me too, not in the states.

edit:

oops, forgot to say: AWESOME!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 11 Dec 2010, 22:07
I'm not so much the type that cares about whether or not a specific clan will win, I care more about individual characters and hope that, at the very least, they survive a bit longer if not reach whatever goal that they want. Specifically Tyrion, Arya, Jon Snow, Samwell, and more recently, Jaime, who is proving lately that he's far less of a fucktard than his own illegitimate son was.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 11 Dec 2010, 22:27
Jaime quietly snuck around to being my favorite character, all told. Of all the horrible shitty things he's done the one act he's actually hated the most for is probably the only thing that makes him even remotely sympathetic by modern ethical standards.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 15 Dec 2010, 06:56
Finally got around to starting this extremely good series a couple of weeks ago and am nealy through Game of Thrones - yes this is a definitely compelling read with well developed characters, and even the tertiary characters aren't cut outs.  Good to see that Mr. Bean is playing Eddard - he is one of the few actors I could see pulling this off.  I haven't checked IMDB for the cast list, but I kept seeing Brian Blessed as Robert - anyone else think that would be a decent casting?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 16 Dec 2010, 05:00
Finally got around to starting this extremely good series a couple of weeks ago and am nealy through Game of Thrones - yes this is a definitely compelling read with well developed characters, and even the tertiary characters aren't cut outs.  Good to see that Mr. Bean is playing Eddard - he is one of the few actors I could see pulling this off.  I haven't checked IMDB for the cast list, but I kept seeing Brian Blessed as Robert - anyone else think that would be a decent casting?

The footage of him makes it seem that he'll play the part fine.  I don't think the series will focus on Robert too much, though. 

Also, the third book is the best of the series, imo.  Good luck with the ending of the book! ;)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 18 Dec 2010, 14:33
The guy playing Robert is the guy who played Heath Ledger's friend in A Knight's Tale. Don't know what else he's been in.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 20 Dec 2010, 03:23
A friend of mine is doing the illustrations for the 2012 A Song of Ice and Fire calendar, and GRRM has posted a preview of the cover (http://grrm.livejournal.com/190693.html) for it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 20 Dec 2010, 13:28
Oh man, is that The Eyrie? If so, that is amazing.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 20 Dec 2010, 17:32
The 2011 one (with the castles) was done by a different artist, Ted Nasmith, my friend, John Picacio, will have the 2012 version available next July, but yes, fantastic art on all of them.

Here's a page (http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2010/03/cover-art/an-aside-a-glimpse-at-the-2011-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-calendar/) that shows the back cover of 2011's with thumbnails of the rest of the art. The cover art is the only one that's been shown for the 2012 so far.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 20 Dec 2010, 17:53
The cover of 2012 is fantastic too. Unfortunately, I'll now see Sean Bean as Eddard Stark from here on in so it looks a little out of place.  :|
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 26 Dec 2010, 22:30
I'm 150 pages into A Game of Thrones and those of Lannister blood introduced so far bar Tyrion are horribly contemptible.  I'm curious to see where the Stark children will end up and hopeful that Dany will end relations with her spiteful shit of a brother. Congratulations to Martin for getting me to care so strongly about these characters this soon into the series.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Ozymandias on 26 Dec 2010, 22:54
Man.

I wish I could forget the series entirely just so I could be where you are and read it anew.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: snalin on 28 Dec 2010, 07:00
hopeful that Dany will end relations with her spiteful shit of a brother.

I promise you, that's not how you'll feel by the end of book 4.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 28 Dec 2010, 09:37
I was trying to think of a way to respond to that without any spoilers and man, you nailed it right on the head. In other words I lol'ed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 28 Dec 2010, 17:27
Just reached the halfway mark. My conclusions and predictions stand as follows:
 - Dany is almost as annoying as her brother now. She will be insufferable once those eggs hatch.
 - Ned Stark is not long for this world.
 - Arya is destined to be a Faceless One or whatever those 'spensive assassins are called.
 - Jamie has fathered all Cersei's children. As such, Jofferey's claim to the throne is illegitimate.
 - Sansa is going to get seriously fucked over now that Lady is dead.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 30 Dec 2010, 10:04
Just reached the halfway mark. My conclusions and predictions stand as follows:
 - Dany is almost as annoying as her brother now. She will be insufferable once those eggs hatch.
 - Ned Stark is not long for this world.
 - Arya is destined to be a Faceless One or whatever those 'spensive assassins are called.
 - Jamie has fathered all Cersei's children. As such, Jofferey's claim to the throne is illegitimate.
 - Sansa is going to get seriously fucked over now that Lady is dead.

I had similar predictions at that point in the book, minus the Arya one.  What gave you that idea?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 30 Dec 2010, 11:40
Everything in this book is foreshadowed, that prediction clicked for me when the Council mentioned those guys. Arya doesn't stay put when things go to shit and she's is learning to dance from a Braavo, Syrio. An escape across the Narrow Sea, where she can further her studies, seems more than likely at this point but I don't know when this is going to happen.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 30 Dec 2010, 11:43
Obviously I'm fuzzy on the details, but your response tells me I've thought too far ahead for my own good.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: DavidGrohl on 31 Dec 2010, 02:48
Obviously I'm fuzzy on the details, but your response tells me I've thought too far ahead for my own good.

I'll refrain from commenting further about your predictions, seeing as I've already influenced one or more of them. >_<

Read, dammit, read!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: CoyoteKnight on 31 Dec 2010, 10:03
Sounds like an interesting series. I can't wait to watch it, but I really should read the books first I suppose.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 07 Jan 2011, 04:06
HBO held a private press event and invited two members of the 'Winter is Coming' blog.

They give a play-by-play of the 15 minute preview shown there for the first time.

http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/01/a-full-summary-of-the-15-min-sneak-peek/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 17 Jan 2011, 04:25
A new trailer, haven't listened to it because my computer at work has no sound, but here you go:

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/category/inside-the-series?cf_synd_id=63Zo4UY
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 19 Jan 2011, 02:20
I just reread the first book in this series, I got through books 1-3 at least 7-8 years ago and it's time to revisit them.

I love this shit.  It's so good.  I really hope the HBO series isn't a mess.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 19 Jan 2011, 07:01
The production values for costuming and set design look good, and the author approves (look at the HBO Canada site and they podcasts indicate that Mr. Martin knows abotu it, was at the set and approves) - so I have hopes.

Besides, Sean Bean's in this - I rather enjoy his work.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 28 Feb 2011, 15:02
The Maester's Path.

Basically, you solve a puzzle and it gives you an awesome reward.

There will be different rewards weekly, it seems.

http://itsh.bo/igIEE7
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: scarred on 01 Mar 2011, 09:46
The production values for costuming and set design look good, and the author approves (look at the HBO Canada site and they podcasts indicate that Mr. Martin knows abotu it, was at the set and approves) - so I have hopes.

He also appears on several of the featurettes they've posted on Youtube, so I'm pretty sure he's down with it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 04 Mar 2011, 10:57
new trailer (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2011/3/4/the-game-begins-preview.html)

I am really excited. Littlefinger looks nothing like I pictured him, but it fits the character really well.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 04 Mar 2011, 14:29
never read the books (they've long been on my list of things to read but never had time to make the commitment) but this still looks really great. I always though the series was more fantasy heavy for some reason but seems I was wrong.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 21 Mar 2011, 02:12
never read the books

(http://abductedcomic.com/comics-archive/2011-03-09-That-Guy....jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 02 Apr 2011, 14:30
The critics are just getting sent their episodes 1-6 for reviewing purposes.

The first two reviews were positive :
Den of Geek Review (http://www.denofgeek.com/television/833989/game_of_thrones_episode_1_spoilerfree_review.html)

Hollywood Reporter Review (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/game-thrones-tv-review-174120)

EDIT :  Links fixed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 02 Apr 2011, 14:38
Your links, they need help.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 04 Apr 2011, 02:28
Did anyone else watch the 15 minute preview of the premiere?

I watched it and was impressed. It looks great, but 15 minutes is hardly enough to sell a show that complex.

We didn't even get to see my favorite character, Tyrion.

2 weeks to go . . . :[

Preview can be found here (http://www.hbo.com/#/game-of-thrones/about/video/exclusive-preview.html/eNrjcmbO0CzLTEnNd8xLzKksyUx2zs8rSa0oUc-PSYEJBSSmp-ol5qYy5zMXsjGyMXIyMrJJJ5aW5BfkJFbalhSVpgIAXbkXOA==).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 04 Apr 2011, 09:53
oh man that looks cool!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: scarred on 04 Apr 2011, 17:36
I wonder of Catelyn is going to annoy me as much on film as she does on paper.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 04 Apr 2011, 21:10
She's annoying to me up until she just becomes horribly, horribly frightening.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 05 Apr 2011, 12:16
Eh, I'll never think of Eddard as stupid. More like Kant with a bitchin' sword.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: SirJuggles on 05 Apr 2011, 12:59
Dangit I do not have time to read all these bloody books but these characters sound so freakin interesting.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 05 Apr 2011, 13:28
Eh, I'll never think of Eddard as stupid. More like Kant with a bitchin' sword.

He had integrity, such a trait would have continued to make him even a greater danger/threat to Lancaster machinations.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 05 Apr 2011, 13:41
to Cersei's and her father's machinations anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 05 Apr 2011, 17:41
Eh, I'll never think of Eddard as stupid. More like Kant with a bitchin' sword.

He had integrity, such a trait would have continued to make him even a greater danger/threat to Lancaster machinations.

Lot of good that did him.  Too much honor is just as bad as too little.  It bordered on stupidity.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 05 Apr 2011, 18:48
Morality isn't just about doing what's best for you. It wasn't just honor that kept Eddard from doing what was best for himself-- hell, you could argue that as a man of the kingdom honor dictated he act faster-- but a bit of pity. You can call it stupid, if you like, but it's still the Cersei Lannisters of the world that make the world a shitty place, not the Starks.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 05 Apr 2011, 20:43
As much as I dislike Cersei, she really didn't do anything that endangered the realm.

Anything she ever plots or schemes is done in self-defense or defense of her children.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 05 Apr 2011, 21:45
The lengths she goes to cannot really be excused, however. This is in part a matter of means and ends. Some people value the means as much as the end; Eddard Stark is one of them. Enough happens that he is no longer willing to bear the sacrifices that come along with such beliefs but that's not the same thing as being outright stupid.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 Apr 2011, 13:08
Dangit I do not have time to read all these bloody books but these characters sound so freakin interesting.

Start with the first one - they are interesting, and you may even get a good part of the book completed before the series starts.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: FIXDIX on 06 Apr 2011, 23:59
Essentially Robb is made a king because Cersei got his father killed, I don't know how that's not manipulating the situation in self-defence.

Damn dawg, spoilers, y'know?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 07 Apr 2011, 00:28
I've only read A Game of Thrones, I've had ample time to catch up to everyone else. Spoilers are to expected and I have no right to complain.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: FIXDIX on 08 Apr 2011, 21:39
Yeah, felt a little bad after posting that.

Plus you fucks should have read all the books by now.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: cyro on 09 Apr 2011, 02:14
He had integrity, such a trait would have continued to make him even a greater danger/threat to Lancaster machinations.

*Lannister.

You may not want to get those two confused. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Lancaster)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 09 Apr 2011, 02:20
Damn you, auto-correct!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 15 Apr 2011, 15:19
Two freaken days!

@82 on Metacritic atm.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 15 Apr 2011, 15:43
I'm going to have to abstain (from this and the Killing) until Wednesday arvo otherwise I will not get any study done on Monday for the rest of my mid-sems.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 17 Apr 2011, 19:38
Damn. I was hoping they'd pare down on the nudity some, given that I have family who I think would like the series otherwise.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 18 Apr 2011, 02:41
we so excited
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 18 Apr 2011, 10:13
Okay so I found this to actually to be pretty generic and I guess I just didn't realize about HBO but man they had me thinking "Oh yeah, there were a lot of those uncomfortable nude scenes in the book".


I'm kind of disappointed? Like, I feel like its a show I can watch for something to watch but I dunno, I'm just feelin' meh about it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 18 Apr 2011, 10:45
I'm just trying to keep in mind that the advance reviews indicated that the first episode is the weakest. I can believe it since they had an awful lot to establish just to get to the cliffhanger that starts the story proper. That's kinda why I find myself pointing at the nudity as the single biggest issue I have, since the rest of the stuff isn't really something you can tinker with short of tossing out characters entirely. And really, I think the issue for me was not so much the nudity itself but the way the scenes they were in made for some weird tonal shifts now and again. For example, they cut from Tyrion jokes & giggling whores to solemn dudes in mourning at one point. You have to be careful with that shit given that in the books it's generally easier to pad a transition.

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 18 Apr 2011, 10:54
Like, even that aside, I couldn't help but giggle a bit at the whole like Khal Drogo/ Daenerys stuff because they just looked ridiculous. Drogo had more eye makeup than an entire emo band and every time they cut to Daenerys she just had this "staring off into the sunset" look that literally me and my friends started laughing at.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 18 Apr 2011, 12:40
The Dothraki stuff and the Daenerys plot line have long been one of my least favorite parts of the series for a number of reasons. It takes Martin's "Women have little overt power in low fantasy settings" theme and doubles up the awkward with a bunch of Noble Savage archetypes to boot. I mean, having the super exotic guy bed the crying lily white girl and not touching the plot again before the end of the episode is a rough hand to deal new viewers. It's one of those cases where even as I read the book I was beating my head against an entire wall of subtext. So I can't help but wonder what people who are new to the series think given that there's already a whole shit ton of other things for them to try to keep straight.


That, and yeah, shit looked silly.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 18 Apr 2011, 13:21
It wasn't until later into Game of Thrones that Daenerys started to get less passive. Maybe this is just their way of showing it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 18 Apr 2011, 13:31
Yeah, but it's a George RR Martin book. That happens like, a half million pages later.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 18 Apr 2011, 14:12
I'd agree that the nudity is definitely one of the more silly issues from this first episode but the main problem is that they really flew through a lot of text in just 1 episode and so much was cut out. The prologue scene was probably my favourite part but the scene where they found the direwolves was just so odd as that was pretty much as far from the actual text as it could have been. Even with these flaws I'd say that plenty of performances shone through; Tyrion, Jaime, Ned, Robb and Jon were all great but Cersei is going to bug the hell out of me, she just wasn't crazy enough, really. Viseris was also excellent, there was that real danger that he could change his mood in an instant but Daenarys being naked for pretty much 90% of the time she was on screen was just silly.




As an aside because this really is nitpicking but Magister Illyrio is supposed to be fat as a whale. Roger Allam is a great actor and a good choice but there are pretty much only 2 parts to Illyrio's character; he is absurdly rich and just as absurdly fat.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 18 Apr 2011, 14:34
That only lasts a few chapters though.

Yeah, but she only -has- a few chapters. Beyond that, her overt power is a straight up exception to the rule and the way Martin demonstrates that fact is by first making her a pawn before making her a player in her own right. Anyway, perhaps it's not entirely fair but first impressions can count for a lot and I think it's fair to say that the book and the TV series both start her out in a rather pitiful situation. And barring an overt acceleration of her storyline (which I admittedly think is likely, all things considered), this will be the last audiences will see of her character for quite a while.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: scarred on 18 Apr 2011, 20:49
A pilot episode is by no means the way to judge a series. Usually pilots are terrible (with the exception of The Walking Dead, among others) but the shows themselves end up really good along down the line (with the exception of The Walking Dead, among others). I think it shows promise (though it wasn't great by any means). But, like what's been said, they had an awful lot of backstory and framing to establish. I almost feel like they should've started the show with a proper standard TV double episode (around 90 minutes).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 19 Apr 2011, 00:29
Tod VanDerWerff, in his review over at the AV Club  added the disclaimer that: "the grade is for the pilot episode only."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: scarred on 19 Apr 2011, 01:10
Just read that review. The AV Club and I generally agree a fair amount of the time, so I'm excited for this kit n' caboodle to get going.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: KvP on 19 Apr 2011, 12:03
As per the HBO standard, Game of Thrones has been picked up for a second season after a strong showing for the first ep.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out as boring as Boardwalk Empire!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 21 Apr 2011, 11:32
I've been pretty involved with watch the series advertisements and production develop, and I really don't think that the pilot is going to be representory of the show. Aside from the good points above, they needed to introduce a ton of characters (and that's just going to get worse.) I think they did pretty good with what they had, at the moment - part of the joy of this series is watching the characters really develop, and I think it's going to be the same with the series.

As far as finding the wolves go, you're right that that was a bit far from the books. But it's more the tone, than anything else. GRRM himself admitted that he's gotten letters from fans saying "That horse should be black," and he just had to say that it didn't really matter to him. It's about the setting and the themes - and HBO have shown that they may be capable of portraying those well. The detail was certainly breathtaking.

Anyway. looking forward to next week.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 22 Apr 2011, 11:29
I don't mind spoilers, but I know not everyone likes them. Use spoiler tags when talking about the book?

Edit: Why don't they work now??
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: the_pied_piper on 22 Apr 2011, 14:21
Because people can't be trusted with nice things.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: sean on 22 Apr 2011, 15:37
wait the spoiler tags are gone>

thank god
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 22 Apr 2011, 18:56
Hey! Those are actually really useful when they are used for what they were made for! Bring them back.

:c
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 24 Apr 2011, 23:19
The second episode of GoT was much better than the first.

Somethings to note :
- Maisey Williams' (Arya) acting was amazing. 
- Lady's scene :[
- The assassination scene seemed a bit off when the killing element was introduced (trying to keep this somewhat spoiler free)
-  Again, much better than the first episode
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 16 May 2011, 03:16
This series keeps getting better. All the invented stuff this week was fantastic except for the Theon one which, even with wang was totally forgettable. Oh and the Aerie was absolutely stunning.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/29xsv36.png)
Gregor Clegane is a real bad dude.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 16 May 2011, 07:08
that picture is upsetting.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 16 May 2011, 10:39
Great, now I'm eternally going to think of Gregor Clegane as Kurtz.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8jXqgLFghN8/TTZ30SHAHWI/AAAAAAAAAd8/UAv3S9zNn9Q/s1600/apocalypse-now-ritual-slaughter1.jpg)

Not that GoT isn't that far away from Heart of Darkness.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 16 May 2011, 15:33
I never thought of Renly and Loras as gay, but now that I think about it, yes.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 16 May 2011, 17:31
I've only read the 1st book, do they get gayer?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 16 May 2011, 18:50
In that they are gay and everyone knows it, yes.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: KvP on 16 May 2011, 18:51
This series keeps getting better. All the invented stuff this week was fantastic except for the Theon one which, even with wang was totally forgettable. Oh and the Aerie was absolutely stunning.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/29xsv36.png)
Gregor Clegane is a real bad dude.
Can we get that bearded dude on the right in on some of that face-multiplying meme action?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 16 May 2011, 18:58
Is anyone else severely disappointed that Loras is played by a dude that who looks like he can't even lift a broadsword? I mean, whatever, they wanted to amp up the gay, but dang it at least get an actor that looks like a freaking knight and not someone who looks like one good hit would break him in half.

Also that definitely wasn't in the first book. Did not see that coming at all.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Inlander on 16 May 2011, 19:04
I was mainly disappointed that he wasn't all covered in flowers. Actually although I'm enjoying the show I'm kind of disappointed that they seem to have toned down the costuming rather. Having only read the book recently I was hoping for more of a pageantry of colours and sigils. It was nice to see all the crimson Lannister cloaks swooping in in the final scene but on the whole everything looks a lot drabber than I was expecting it to. In the last episode where Catelyn was in the inn identifying allies by their house colours and sigils I couldn't help thinking "How does she know? They're all dressed the same."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 16 May 2011, 19:17
Yeah, same. I did notice his horse blanket wasn't actually made of flowers. Granted, they didn't show a lot of the joust where the really awesome armor is shown, but I honestly don't know how Catelyn was identifying anybody either because there weren't any sigils in sight. After spending time showing Bran talking about sigils, they could have showed more of them.

I will say though that Lysa is just the right amount of crazy and it was cool to see the Eyrie.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 16 May 2011, 19:29
Probably the best character introduction Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Inlander on 16 May 2011, 20:36
I loved the looks on Tyrion and Catelyn's faces in that scene.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 17 May 2011, 04:13
There are like six bearded dudes on the right in that photo. Which one do you mean?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 17 May 2011, 18:03
Is anyone else severely disappointed that Loras is played by a dude that who looks like he can't even lift a broadsword? I mean, whatever, they wanted to amp up the gay, but dang it at least get an actor that looks like a freaking knight and not someone who looks like one good hit would break him in half.

Also that definitely wasn't in the first book. Did not see that coming at all.

Neither are POV characters, so there weren't any actual scenes, yet their gayness was implied in the book : http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchives/faq/lorasrenly.html Spoilers in the Link

Yea, Loras does look quite a bit weak to be a knight.

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 18 May 2011, 07:23
Neither are POV characters, so there weren't any actual scenes, yet their gayness was implied in the book : http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/mlarchives/faq/lorasrenly.html Spoilers in the Link

Yea, Loras does look quite a bit weak to be a knight.

A lot of those are from the books I haven't read yet. I've only read the first one, which is why this was such a shock to me. Even one of my roommates, who has read all of the books and is the reason the rest of us are watching the show, was surprised because he didn't pick up on it. I mean, the sexuality of the characters doesn't bother me, there are by far worse things going on in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 18 May 2011, 12:32
I wrote a wiki on Game of thrones. And I didn't pick up on it.

 :oops:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 18 May 2011, 12:41
Seriously? I always thought it was pretty overt. There are a ton of references to it if you read carefully.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Alex C on 18 May 2011, 13:34
I never found anything to do with Renly interesting enough to start reading carefully. That, and two men spending all their time together means approximately nothing to me, I guess.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 19 May 2011, 00:42
Yeah, maybe I'm just dense. I see now that it's kind of obvious.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 19 May 2011, 01:15
I never found anything to do with Renly interesting enough to start reading carefully. That, and two men spending all their time together means approximately nothing to me, I guess.

Yea, in the book I thought Little Finger was just being a dick when he made the peadophile joke.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thiefree on 26 May 2011, 16:59
Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 27 May 2011, 08:54
Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.

Watching the series, I imagine that it would be quite confusing for those who haven't read the books.

Do you find that to be the case?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 27 May 2011, 09:16
I am watching it with a few people who haven't read the series, and they don't seem to have a problem with it.

On the other hand, maybe that's because I keep accidentally giving away spoilers.  :psyduck:

The newest episode was badass. Stark is the man.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 27 May 2011, 16:26
I haven't read any of the books, and the plot so far is really easy to follow. Granted, I can never remember anyone's names, but I always know what's going on.
My only, extremely minor, gripe might be that there is so much going on that a few of the story lines don't get enough screen time.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 27 May 2011, 16:42
When I was reading the book I'd flick to the appendix every 50 or so pages just to keep up.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 27 May 2011, 17:12
I have no doubt that's what I'd be doing, but all the characters looks very distinct in the TV series, so it's easy enough to remember what they're all up to.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: snalin on 30 May 2011, 03:40
Guys, guys, The Rainbow Guard.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 30 May 2011, 03:51
Truly, they do get gayer.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 06 Jun 2011, 15:07
The Arryns continue to make me very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: cyro on 08 Jun 2011, 01:59
Guys, guys, The Rainbow Guard.

Yeah. This show removed any pretense of subtlety from that.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 13 Jun 2011, 12:42
So did anyone see the shit go down that hadn't yet read the books?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 13 Jun 2011, 18:16
Dude who watched it with me and Staedler Mars hadn't rea them yet. He seemed pretty underwhelmed. Sad times.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 14 Jun 2011, 02:43
He'd read the buzz on the Internet, he knew it was going to happen. *maybe spoiler* Man, I was sitting on the edge of my seat being all "maybe he'll get out of it" even though I knew he wasn't.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 14 Jun 2011, 04:36
I just watched it, and as I've said earlier, I've not read the books. It was pretty underwhelming. Considering the quality of the series so far, it certainly didn't have the emotional impact I'd have expected it to.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 14 Jun 2011, 12:19
I read the books, and I enjoyed the way it was portrayed.

It wasn't emotional . . it was more . . 'numb'.  Perfect.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 14 Jun 2011, 13:27
He'd read the buzz on the Internet, he knew it was going to happen. *maybe spoiler* Man, I was sitting on the edge of my seat being all "maybe he'll get out of it" even though I knew he wasn't.

This
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 14 Jun 2011, 13:36
It didn't really occur to me that they might have been going for numb. With that in mind, I can understand better why it was the way it was. It still didn't work for me, though. It didn't feel numb to me, it just didn't feel... anything. Which is weird.

Oh well! It's one of maybe two scenes so far in the series which I've found less than spectacular, so can't really complain!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 14 Jun 2011, 18:59
Oh well! It's one of maybe two scenes so far in the series which I've found less than spectacular, so can't really complain!

I had the opposite feeling.  I think it's one of the few scenes in the series so far that was absolutely perfect.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Inlander on 14 Jun 2011, 23:30
I mean Jesus, they even went so far as to have Sean Bean look like all the blood had drained from his face in shock after Joffrey delivered his verdict.

Gotta admire that kind of attention to detail.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 14 Jun 2011, 23:50
Emmy worthy.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 15 Jun 2011, 09:22
Emmy worthy.

Peter Dinklage > Sean Bean .

I really think Dinklage has earned it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thiefree on 15 Jun 2011, 10:11
Wow, this forum has really been preparing for GoT! I feel like quite the Johnny-come-lately.  :psyduck: I'm absolutely loving it, and will read the books when it ends.

Watching the series, I imagine that it would be quite confusing for those who haven't read the books.

Do you find that to be the case?

Occasionally, because I struggle with fantasy names at the best of times, but it's so engaging that I'm paying avid attention.
Actually, I have begun reading the first book, but still was TOTALLY UNPREPARED FOR WHAT JUST HAPPENED OH LORDY

There is no emoticon for how I am feeling

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u71/Thiefree/Horror.jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thiefree on 15 Jun 2011, 10:13
So did anyone see the shit go down that hadn't yet read the books?

There was epic flinch and disbelief from me. Upset, obviously, and excited to see what happens next!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Jun 2011, 05:55
Alright, the first season is now officially over - the big budget star will now be seen only in flashbacks, and we now get ready to move to Season 2.

Thoughts on this series so far - I'm finding this to be an excellent drama - true to the books while complying with the demands of this very different medium and the acting has been very good. 

As with the books I'm very invested in two characters and hoping to see more of a third (Jon, Tyrion and Sandor respectively).  And I really want to see what they do with Jamie and Brienne in later seasons.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 20 Jun 2011, 05:59
Danny's hair survived the fire.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 20 Jun 2011, 06:08
Aw man, did it? That annoys me.

Still haven't seen this one. Oh it's gonna be good.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Inlander on 20 Jun 2011, 08:04
Danny's hair survived the fire.

That's because she has hair of the dragon.

No seriously though, I think the whole idea is that she's unburnable. Completely.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2011, 08:38
I don't remember her hair being burned off in the book and since she's suposed to be the dragon, I would have been annoyed if it DID burn off.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 20 Jun 2011, 09:58

It does.  She was bald after that point in the book.

Quote
When the fire died at last and the ground became cool enough to walk upon, Ser Jorah Mormont found her amidst the ashes, surrounded by blackened logs and bits of glowing ember and the burnt bones of man and woman and stallion.  She was naked, covered with soot, her clothes turned to ash, her beautiful hair all crisped away . . . yet she was unhurt.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 20 Jun 2011, 10:44
If I had read the books I'd probably be raging that her hair remained, but having not read them, I like that her hair didn't get burned. It drives home the point of FUCKING DRAGON.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: cyro on 20 Jun 2011, 12:30
You realise the "Dragon" thing is meant to be metaphorical, right?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 20 Jun 2011, 12:47
I had assumed it is a little more than metaphor, what with the whole "impervious to fire" thing she's got going on.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thiefree on 20 Jun 2011, 17:56
It's not just a metaphor, it's a fascinating narrative device, as well as 'true' within the fiction. Same as the wolves are narrative extensions of the Stark children (and Jon). It's clearly a metaphor but real as well, if you get my meaning.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 20 Jun 2011, 18:54
Magical Realism? I've only read the first one but I got the distinct impression that the fantastic was only a small shift in reality away. Wargs, dire wolves, dragons, dragons blood, white walkers and winter. I believe the last book is titled A Dream of Spring which is interesting because I only known Westeros to have winters and summers that can last lifetimes.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 21 Jun 2011, 00:56
Good to see that Cersei finds her son as tedious as I do.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 21 Jun 2011, 03:51
http://abductedcomic.com/comics-archive/2011-03-09-That-Guy....jpg
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Jun 2011, 04:45
That it certainly does.

I want to see their development of Danerys in later seasons - almost as much as I want to see Tyrion [insert spoiler here].
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 21 Jun 2011, 20:50
I would be mad if I was a dragon lady and my hair burned off because I'D BE A GODDAMN DRAGON LADY.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 22 Jun 2011, 23:13
I binged on the series over the past couple of days. Wow. I really really hope they are able to continue this through the end.

I haven't read any of the books despite being a science fiction / fantasy fan, mostly because I'm waiting for GRRM to finish them so I don't get stuck waiting in the middle. So coming at it completely fresh (even avoiding most discussions and spoilers to this point), the series stood very well on its own and worked telling its story and making all of the characters real. I can't wait for more.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Border Reiver on 07 Jul 2011, 12:41
Soo, when does Season 2 start?

Haven't liked TV this much since BSG.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 07 Jul 2011, 14:08
same time next year
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Tom on 08 Jul 2011, 14:58
Guys, to call aDwD highly praised is an understatement.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 08 Jul 2011, 23:31
Huh?  There have only been a handful of reviews so far.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 11 Jul 2011, 18:11
oh man I can't wait until I hit the states in ten days and can allow myself to buy it.

my mind:  :psyduck: +  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Damnable Fiend on 12 Jul 2011, 04:13
the bookstore may say they have plenty of copies, but I won't believe it until I have one in my hands.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IMMANotListening on 12 Jul 2011, 05:52
Just out of curiosity, had anyone read A Song of Ice and Fire series before it became a show?

I only found out about the series because I heard HBO was making a show and decided to give the books a shot first.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 12 Jul 2011, 06:26
I read the series before I saw the show.
I read the series before I saw the show.
I read the series before I saw the show.
I read the series before I saw the show.
I read the series before I saw the show.

(five times over.)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: StaedlerMars on 12 Jul 2011, 14:26
^ he made me read the series before I saw the show.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: richlitt on 13 Jul 2011, 01:53
The question is kind of moot now. Because, by the next season, everyone will have read the series all the way through, out of impatience. After this it's only a matter of nerd prestige.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IMMANotListening on 06 Aug 2011, 17:41
Something that might be of some interest:

Behind the Scenes: Game of Thrones - Visual Effects
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkptadiDABo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: cyro on 09 Aug 2011, 07:09
I read the series before I saw the show.

What he said.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Sploosh on 06 Dec 2011, 07:57
I really loved ASOIAF/GoT; I picked up the book one day in my lunch break, because I'd read a few status updates re: the TV show - ended up reading most of the series before I finally got round to watching GoT.

Aside from ruining the 'twist' in GoT, it's became a conversation point for me and my manager as I was reading, haha.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 09 Feb 2012, 13:59
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/403730_10150540112107734_74133697733_9139349_2138067302_n.jpg)

So here's what Brienne looks like. I think they did a good job!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Feb 2012, 17:16
somehow I pictured her as really young. But otherwise looks good to me!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 27 Feb 2012, 08:27
This is a book question: I recently finished Storm of Swords. Should I keep going? I've read some pretty negative reviews of the next two books, many of which suggest they're fairly boring and aimless. Is it worth the 1800 pages or so? I DO want to keep going with the story in theory but at the same time it's not like I don't have other stuff I want to read.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 27 Feb 2012, 09:07
Honestly, I hated most of Feast for Crows (Cersei is so freaking annoying), but there were still some interesting parts in there. Maybe just skip chapters of characters you don't care about, but I would still read them at some point. Maybe you could wait til we hear that book 6 is coming out?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 27 Feb 2012, 10:29
I never got through A Feast for Crows. I didn't even get very far. It struck me as incredibly dull, and after reading the first three back-to-back, I couldn't make my self work through it. Sooner or later, I probably will, though. I am determined to make it through the series.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 27 Feb 2012, 18:46
Having not read the series in a long time, all my memory is fuzzy

I remember being very angry and then very sad, and then in only one of the latest books there was a tiny bit of catharsis going on and then it was back to being as depressing as shit

Is it just me or Danaerys' story just seems to grind to a halt after the first 2 books

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 27 Feb 2012, 20:17
Third book spoilers:

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 27 Feb 2012, 20:36
yes, that's the one. Danaery's is in book 3 a decent amount. She kind of irritates me but the stuff that happens in her chapters is pretty cool. From what I've heard, she's not in book 4 at all.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 28 Feb 2012, 03:44
Martin did start to separate the books into focusing on regional conflicts, which I think is fair because there was just way too much shit to cover.

But again, I just don't feel Danaerys really stands out in the books past the second one. I mean, she's all character development and legitimacy to the throne, but then later on its just her trying to deal with politicking while her dragons spend half the time not doing much at all

Her arc has ended on a neat cliffhanger so far, though, so I'm not entirely a pessimist.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 28 Feb 2012, 10:46
Hm, that's fair, yeah. It doesn't help any that I really don't like her character very much at all. She just comes across as this kind of foolish, entitled, arrogant kid with a warped sense of history. Maybe if Martin ever finishes the series she'll have developed into something more interesting but for now I can't help but feel that she's just not likeable. I kind of hope she returns to Westeros and her army gets demolished.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 28 Feb 2012, 11:03
A Feast For Crows seemed to fall flat on the first read through. So, for that matter, did ADWD, but I've found that they both benefit immensely from re-reading. I loved AFFC the second time through (and every time after). If you're already invested enough to be three books deep, you really should try to get through them.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 29 Feb 2012, 01:11
I found Feast to be boring in stretches but great in others. The Cersei chapters were so annoying but really important in the end as were the Jamie chapters. I had to force myself through the Brienne and Arya chapters, but I just hate Arya and Bran as characters and Brienne's become boring. Really I think the book is worth the read because it helps flesh out the corners of the realm that aren't covered in Starks or Lannisters. Lots of Ironborn, Dornish and Vale goodness to be had. About to start a second read through. I hope I'll pick up on some nuances I missed the first time.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Mar 2012, 18:12
OK so I read it. It was OK but by far the worst of the series so far. Why on earth did Martin choose to make Cersei such a major character? She's awful, intensely unlikeable, and tremendously irritating. It didn't help the book was bloated and aimless with little real plot development and unnecessarily convoluted minor subplots and squabbles. I really enjoyed the segments in the Iron Isles and in Dorne and I liked Arya's chapters. Sam's felt completely pointless. Sansa's as well. Brienne's painted a vivid, grim picture of a land ravaged by war - I got a very Thirty Years War vibe from her wanderings. That vibe carries through a lot of the book actually, with roving bands of outlaws and deserters from the war, ravaged and pillaged villages, and religious fanatics vying for power. I didn't necessarily miss the characters that were left out but I also didn't see why Martin had to break the book into two parts - there was so much superfluous nonsense in this one that it probably could have been downsized significantly and combined with book 5 (also downsized, since from what I've heard it suffers from a similar set of problems) resulting in a book roughly the length of Storm of Swords, maybe a bit longer. There's really that much filler. Still, I'm ultimately glad I read it. Despite how little I care for some of the characters featured here, I like Martin's world too damn much to hate this even if it did test my patience.

EDIT: I forgot about Jamie! I liked his chapters. It's cool to see how he's developing from a heartless villain into something much more complicated. Almost, dare I say it, a good(ish) guy? I didn't expect that to happen and I think a less ambitious writer would have sat back and let Jamie just be GoT Jamie for the whole series. Martin's sense of moral ambiguity and character development (except in Cersei's (very static) case) is rare. Anyway Jamie is one of the characters I most excited to see through the end of this series, if and when that ever happens.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 10 Mar 2012, 10:35
Thought this was funny . .
(http://i.imgur.com/ioVUX.jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 12 Mar 2012, 00:18
Yeah Emilia Clarke has a very dramatic angryfeis

Don't think that'll change come this second season
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 12 Mar 2012, 07:03
My favorite is the third one down. It almost looks like she's hissing.

@TheFuriousWombat: I feel the same way. About half of what was in books 4 and 5 would have made one really good book, but instead it's two overly long and somewhat boring books. He really could have left a lot of that stuff out. (And gotten rid of so many of Cersei's chapters.)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 17 Mar 2012, 16:59
I'm guessing they'll combine books four and five and split them into two seasons with chronological events.

This is all assuming the show is picked up after Season 2, 3 and 4 (Book 3 was already said to become two seperate seasons).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 17 Mar 2012, 19:50
Hmm, that sounds likely, yeah. In the "afterward" of Feast, Martin writes something about how he didn't think it made sense for him to tell half the stories of all the characters in that book and then the second half in book 5. I really don't get why. Pretty much every series I can think of does it that way and it's always worked. I would imagine it had more to do with the fact that he was having trouble writing more of the story in any case and it was easier for him to take the approach he did - a theory further supported by the, what, six years between Feast and Dance? So yeah, doing Storm as two seasons makes sense because it's massive and then doing Feast/Dance chronologically in two seasons would be the most logical way to go forward. Plus for the show a massive amount will be cut, and rightly so, tightening up the whole sequence of events significantly.  I would guess it will run up to that point at least. Six seasons isn't unreasonable at all for a very popular HBO series and Game season 1 was a major success.

By then (5 years from now), book six will probably be done, right?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: IrrationalPie on 23 Mar 2012, 06:28
First Season two review is in :  A-   
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20470532_20580368,00.html

The review has very little substance to it.  There isn't any 'This actor's performance was outstanding . . ', 'what I liked about . .' or 'what I disliked . . '.

Why even write a review?

In fact, I could write a similar review without even having watched the second season.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 23 Mar 2012, 18:13
dude, it Entertainment Weekly. Lack of substance is kind of their thing.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 11 Apr 2012, 07:47
DEAR GOD HOW HAS ANYONE NOT POSTED ABOUT SEASON 2 YET?

 I'm liking it. I've only recently read book 2, and I can't work out whether things just move so much faster on television or if they've shuffled some of the events around, chronologically. Either way, as mentioned a bit further up in this thread, the way Martin sets out the chapters means there are several things going on at once, so it makes a bit of sense to jumble things around a tad.
 A couple of points to note for me are;
-Jon Snow being so DAMN BROODY all the time. Kit Harrington does a great job of this, but sometimes I feel it may be a little over-acted.
-Peter Dinklage is still awesome as Tyrion.
-Really not overly keen on the way they've animated the direwolves, particularly Grey Wind in the scene with Jaime Lannister. It looks like they've filmed a normal wolf, then used the corner-drag tab to just drag it a bit bigger. I suppose it was that or just CGI one from scratch, but the seams just looked a bit too obvious.
-Holy Jesus Hodor has a massive dong.
-Peter Dinklage is still so damn awesome.

So, how are we all feeling?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 11 Apr 2012, 08:13
I'm quite liking it so far.

You're right about the dire wolves, but I can't think of a way that they could do it well, beyond showing them as little as possible. CGI just doesn't look realistic enough yet for it to be used in live-action video, unless it's used (as GoT does) to create stuff that you're not looking directly at, or stuff that moves too fast for you to notice.

I think they have jumbled stuff up a bit. SPOILERS: Isn't it in the second episode where Stannis' Maester tries to poison Melisandre? I seem to recall that happening in the prologue.

Stannis doesn't look quite right to me. I imagined him being more physically imposing, with thicker features and dark hair. To be fair, though, I have no idea how he's described in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 12 Apr 2012, 02:47
I dunno, I kinda like Stannis, but I'm sure Davos was supposed to have longer hair. The Maester trying to poison Melisandre was a little way into the first episode, but you're right, it is in the prologue of the book.

One thing that struck me when I started reading the book is how much younger most of the characters are, especially the Stark kids. There is no way Robb Stark is meant to be 15 in the television series. I don't mind, I guess it would have been a bit more difficult to cast.

One thing I forgot to mention is how awesome I think Jack Gleason is as Joffrey. I fucking hate that guy, which means he's doing it right.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 12 Apr 2012, 11:37
Regarding the ages of characters on the show vs. characters in the book, I watched an interview from around the time Season 1 started (I think) where he explained that discrepancy. He said it had to do in large part with the sexual stuff children in the book - notably Dany - are involved in, and to a lesser degree the violence. In the book, Dany is really young and there was no way they could have her having sex with an adult. So they made her older but as a result, all the other kids had to be older as well since there's an established timeline to the world that Martin and the show's producers didn't want to mess with too much. It seemed better to keep everyone proportionally the same age than throw off that whole timeline, even if that meant the characters all being a few years older than they should be. I think he also said something about how people would be uneasy if Arya was going around murdering people if she was eight but were more ok with it if she was 12 or 13.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 12 Apr 2012, 22:55
i don't think i have ever hated a fictional character quite as much as i hate that inbred little shit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNeT2nzEgA).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 16 Apr 2012, 17:09
NEW EPISODE!

Brienne is not how I pictured her at all. I mean, I'd seen the preview picture, but even with that in mind, when I did start reading I conjured up something totally different.

I thought the scene with Tyrion and Pycelle/Varys/Littlefinger was done very cleverly.

BOOK BASED SPOILERS
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 17 Apr 2012, 03:36
Brienne is completely not what I pictured her to be. She is far too attractive, and her accent just seems off to me. I found myself intensely disliking the scenes with her in as a result, which is a real shame because in the books she's one of my favourite characters.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 19 Apr 2012, 19:11
I don't have HBO so I can't watch it. *sniff* I'm sure I'll download it at some point, but still.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Dazed on 19 Apr 2012, 20:18
sidereel dot com Linds
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 20 Apr 2012, 00:53
Or just google the episode and "tv links." That site collects links from side reel and a bunch of other streaming sites. The links on there don't always work but there's never been a new episode of a show I haven't eventually found. Plus they go up almost immediately after each episode ends so you can even watch episodes the same night if you're so inclined.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 10 May 2012, 22:13
I was just thinking the other day, I'm actually really looking forward to Season 3 in part because I want to see the reaction of the all the show's fanboys who haven't actually read the books to
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Call me a jerk, but I think it's going to be hilarious.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: verdyyy3 on 15 May 2012, 18:54
I was just thinking the other day, I'm actually really looking forward to Season 3 in part because I want to see the reaction of the all the show's fanboys who haven't actually read the books to
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Call me a jerk, but I think it's going to be hilarious.

I think that's what makes the story stand out, it expands your imagination about what's going to happen next.
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It's not predictable.. you can't say that about many stories. So yeah, awesome books/tv show.


You know nothing, Jon Snow.  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: sixleaf on 20 May 2012, 12:38
I was just thinking the other day, I'm actually really looking forward to Season 3 in part because I want to see the reaction of the all the show's fanboys who haven't actually read the books to
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Call me a jerk, but I think it's going to be hilarious.

Oh yes, I'm so excited about this part next season because I can't wait to read the twitter reactions. Although:
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Slightly off topic from that, but can I just talk about what an amazing job Sophie Turner is doing? Having read all of the books, I think Sansa is one of the most dynamic characters in the series and Turner is doing such an amazing job; I'm really impressed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 21 May 2012, 07:05
Who is this girl that's supposed to be Robb Stark's love interest? She's just been made up out of thin air to replace Jeyne, and I don't even know why, all I know is that I actually don't give a shit about her sad little backstory. It seems to make sod all difference to the wider arc.

One think I am VERY excited for is the Battle of Blackwater. That's going to be epic. But where is the chain? Seems a pretty integral part of the battle.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 21 May 2012, 20:06
Wait, what?? I haven't been watching much this season. Jeyne's no longer in the picture?? Why? Related to my previous spoilerific post, they better not be trying to get out of that event somehow. Rob's marriage to Jeyne is pretty essential in that regard. They couldn't possibly change things that much, right?

And again, haven't been watching, but the chain came along in the book pretty early on. But I guess all it takes in the show is one scene of Tyrion going to the blacksmiths and saying mysteriously "build me a chain" and the camera panning in on his knowing face while the music swells kinda ominously and then a new scene begins and the audience is all "huh?" until the battle and then they're all like "Oooh."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 22 May 2012, 06:45
They've made some wierdass deviations in the plot for thsi new season so far. There's a list I could make, many changes I'd argue as detrimental to the series (but still a few that I thought added pretty well to the TV adaptation).

But lazy
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 22 May 2012, 16:01
No crannogmen either.

Yeah! Where the fuck are Meera and Jojen? I love those little fuckers.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: verdyyy3 on 22 May 2012, 19:20
No crannogmen either.

Yeah! Where the fuck are Meera and Jojen? I love those little fuckers.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 28 May 2012, 04:05
Looks like I am the first one to watch Blackwater. There are bits missing from the battle, but the general idea is there. My heart was racing in the moments leading up to it, and I have never seen such a gritty depiction of medieval warfare. There's no heroic action shots, there's no bravery. There are just men trying very hard not to get killed, and they don't skimp on the gore when they do. Slightly gutwrenching!

Edit because Holy Shit I will never get tired of saying how fucking awesome Tyrion is.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: schimmy on 30 May 2012, 02:29
It was a pretty good episode! It irked me a little bit that despite the fact that they devoted a whole episode to the siege, they still missed out a fair amount of stuff, but I suppose short of making the episode twice as long, and a hell of a lot more expensive, there's not really much they could have done to avoid that.

There shouldn't be too much spoilering going on after this, but for those who haven't read the books, and really don't want to know at all what's coming up, I suggest not reading them.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 16 Apr 2013, 18:28
Probably time to bring this to the top of the pile again, considering that we're 3 episodes into the new season.

Forget this Game of Thrones nonsense, the Game of Chairs scene said so much without a single word of dialogue!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 17 Apr 2013, 20:33
Tangentially, I don't remember Brienne kicking Jaime's ass that hard in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 18 Apr 2013, 03:30
Tangentially, I don't remember Brienne kicking Jaime's ass that hard in the books.

I'm pretty sure she did, but the whole thing went on for longer so it certainly took her a lot longer to get the better of him, and it was all based on her wearing him out than superior ability.

Over in Essos, I am both dissapointed but understanding of Barristan Selmy's insta-reveal. It's harder in a TV show to make him totally unregnisable for a decent run of episodes, but if they could have pulled it off it would have certainly created 'mo drama. And where is Strong Belwas? Probably not a necessary character, but a fun one, and gods know they could use something to lighten the mood over there.

How do we all feel about the casting for the new characters? I feel like they've done an amazing job. I love the Reeds, I love Thoros Of Myr, and although we haven't seen a lot of him, I quite like McKenzie Crook as Orell. I have a feeling, as he's a fairly well known actor in Britain, they might give him a bit more than they do in the books, but that's fine with me because he looks like he'll do an interesting job with him.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 19 Apr 2013, 05:55
Lack of Strong Belwas pisses me off because he was basically the counterpart to Barristan Selmy and he plays a huge vital role later in the series.

It's like how they fucking killed off
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just because. How are they going to give Arya her crowning moment of badass later on in the series?

I love Selmy's entry though. Totally pulled some Obi-Wan Kenobi on that warlock shit.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 22 Apr 2013, 15:48
OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN.

I knew it was coming but the final scene with Danaerys was SO FUCKING BADASS.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 23 Apr 2013, 07:11
I loved it too. Probably the only episode I really enjoyed seeing her in since, well, the end of season 1.

Shame it's all downhill from there.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Parkour Lewis on 16 May 2013, 19:18
I didn't really want to watch this show because I'm generally not into the whole erg and arg medieval swords and pantaloons thing, but it's gotten so much attention I had to binge it a few weeks back to see what all the hubub is about.

Tyrion is a pimp.  I love this freakin' show.  Addicted now.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 23 May 2013, 08:09
The show is just getting bigger and bigger every season. Basically every time a new season is close, the hype is huge and more and more people think 'Ooh I better catch up' and the ratings get bigger.

Also those who have read the books must be pretty excited for the next episode...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 23 May 2013, 09:07
god. damn.

oh how i hate that inbred little shit. i hate him ever so much. so very very much. every time he's on screen now i just want someone to stab him in his blonde little inbred face.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 24 May 2013, 00:19
It's a good thing Jack Gleeson intends to give up acting and focus on school once he's finished as Joffrery because he would NEVER be able to distance himself from that kind of role. I've honestly wondered if he gets extra security after some episodes to prevent random fans from finding him and slapping him.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 24 May 2013, 09:52
i can certainly respect a decision like that, but the kid's an amazing actor & it'd be a shame if we never got to see him in anything else.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 24 May 2013, 09:57
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 02 Jun 2013, 19:46
RE: Tonight's episode...

Oh poor people that haven't read the books; WHERE ARE THE SEVEN NOW?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: blanktom on 03 Jun 2013, 02:54
Just finished watching it...I feel sick.

The worst thing is
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 03 Jun 2013, 04:19
Out of curiosity, at what point in the story are they now?
I only read the books and don't follow the show.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheEvilDog on 03 Jun 2013, 08:31
I don't even watch Game of Thrones, but bloody hell, there is a meltdown happening on Tumblr.
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I'm feeling a sort of delightful glee at watching people's reactions.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Parkour Lewis on 03 Jun 2013, 10:51
Out of curiosity, at what point in the story are they now?
I only read the books and don't follow the show.

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I've never read the books, but
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Pilchard123 on 03 Jun 2013, 14:06
He has two nutsacks?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Parkour Lewis on 03 Jun 2013, 15:47
I wasn't exactly thinking clearly in my verbiosity at that particular moment.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Jun 2013, 00:30
I just marathoned Season 3 tonight. Watching that last scene was a lot more brutal than reading it. oof.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 04 Jun 2013, 02:29
Haha, I was looking forward to when the show reaches that point. I think I'll watch that episode later today, just to see it played out. I remember when reading it I was constantly thinking something along the lines of 'Holy Shit, this can't seriously be happening'. Martin can be a huge dick to his characters but it plays oh-so-well into the story.

On a somewhat related note: GOD DAMNIT I WANT THE SIXTH BOOK BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE SO LONG UNTIL IT'LL BE RELEASED!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: sixleaf on 04 Jun 2013, 17:21
I was really looking forward to this point in the show, but all the actors did such a damn good job of making me get all emotional about it anyway, particularly before it happened. When I was reading the books, I took all the good things that were happening in stride, but watching the show, I knew what was going to happen, and that made the anticipation worse.

Still, it was kind of great to watch and I loved all the non-readers' reactions.

Also, this: https://twitter.com/maggiekb1/status/341556427606863873
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Jun 2013, 17:24
See, I don't consider Martin to be a dick to his characters. I think that one of the biggest strengths in the series is how well it points out the problems with Plot Immunity. No one who dies in the series dies without reason. It's almost always the most logical end to the choices they've made and the events surrounding them. This is especially obvious when you compare it to 99% of the rest of fiction. Characters constantly survive in stories they have no business surviving in.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 05 Jun 2013, 03:06
When I said being a dick to his characters, I didn't mean that them dying doesn't make sense. On the contrary, I love how - unlike the other 99% of fiction you mentioned - nobody in this series is protected from dying. It makes it way more realistic in is part of the reason why the books are among my favorite books ever.

WARNING: This spoiler contains Information not yet depicted in the TV show. Do not read if you haven't read the books or don't mind being spoilered.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 05 Jun 2013, 07:33
The best thing ever: https://vine.co/v/b3XZMHmxzxh
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Jun 2013, 13:27
This is amazing.


Seriiously, if you aren't caught up, don't click through
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Parkour Lewis on 06 Jun 2013, 19:23
This is amazing.


Seriiously, if you aren't caught up, don't click through
....................YES.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Black Sword on 10 Jun 2013, 13:51
I want to express my ongoing discontent with the Game of Thrones TV series. I quite grasp that things have to be dumbed down for TV viewers, but the way it’s been dumbed down also makes for an abysmal experience for people in the know. Not only was the finale lackluster, but I feel very resentful of the extreme screwing over two of my favorite characters have suffered at the hands of the producers. TV Jon the whiny bitch and TV Stannis the whipped bitch have very little in common with their book counterparts apart from their names. As an example, here’s that same scene with Stannis and Davos deciding to go north in the books:

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Do we notice a massive difference between what happened in the books to what was on TV? Stannis acted based on his duty, while TV Stannis is made to look like a puppet on Melisandre’s strings. This is just one of the dozens of ways they shaft so many characters. Also,
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Feh.

Why am I still watching? Lord Tywin and Tyrion, for the most part. The moments of black humor that have me cracking up, like Ramsay Snow and his meal.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: satsugaikaze on 10 Jun 2013, 19:01
The change that gets my goat happened during the first half of Season 2 and it's going to be terribly apparent in the next few episodes of this show. Arya's one of my favourite characters and in the book her
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is such a pivotal moment for her, since it defines her complete loss of innocence and the point of no return, especially after
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. It's also a fucking badass crowning moment of awesome which won't have nearly the same catharsis as it did in the books. It could have been something special.

But no, they just thought they'd kill that dude off in Season 2 for a tiny bit more dramatic impact. So fucking short-sighted, these writers sometimes.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Jun 2013, 01:53
Honestly, I think GoT is a pretty good example of a show that I think is doing a better job than it's source material has. It's probably one of the only instances of a book to film adaptation where I could honestly tell someone that if they didn't want to bother with them, the books are unnecessary. So far at least.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Black Sword on 13 Jun 2013, 06:42
I'm going to have to disagree with you strongly there. The books, by default, are superior material, but the infantilization the producers have indulged in combined with their willful disregard of any number of plot points really shoots them in the foot.

Sort of related, but Jaime Lannister is tapping Kate Upton. Lucky bastard. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2340721/White-hot-Kate-Upton-prances-skimpy-bikini-The-Other-Woman-film-set.html
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 25 Jun 2013, 16:34
Just watched the last two episodes. Only read the first book. Let's just say more happened than I was expecting.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jan 2014, 20:44
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 03 Feb 2014, 05:21
So at the insistence of some friends of mine, I am watching the series. I've currently watched it through Season 2, Episode 5. I feel that it's unfortunate I'm starting so late because many things were spoiled for me.

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As far as things that WEREN'T spoiled for me beforehand...

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 06 Mar 2014, 04:40
Well lets get this back up here, shall we?
Season 4 will premiere this evening, if I'm not mistaken. Even though I already know what's going to happen since I read the books, I'm still looking forward to some more GoT. Too bad I don't catch HBO way down here in Germany.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 06 Mar 2014, 04:55
Well crap, you're right. I was under the impression it was 06.03. not 06.04. Nevermind everybody, carry on with whatever you were doing.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Mar 2014, 05:12
Why to get my hopes up, Chao :roll:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 06 Mar 2014, 05:23
I'm sorry. If it makes you feel better, I got my own hopes up aswell, until Gareth crushed them.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 06 Mar 2014, 05:48
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 06 Mar 2014, 08:05
YESSSSS
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2014, 19:11
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 10 Mar 2014, 19:15
I really want to learn more about the High Valeryian language. How the hell does one word (Valar) translate into "all men must?" Unless -is is a verb conjugation for "everyone," which would be a weird thing for a language to have.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2014, 19:49
I've always assumed a direct translation is simply "all men serve" and "all men die", with the "must" being implied. Or perhaps "valar" simply means "all humans".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 10 Mar 2014, 20:06
An "In Memorium" video for all the characters that died in Seasons 1-3 that was apparently shown before the Game of Thrones panel at Comic Con. (Obviously don't watch if you aren't caught up on the series)


I've always assumed a direct translation is simply "all men serve" and "all men die", with the "must" being implied. Or perhaps "valar" simply means "all humans".

If "Valar" means "all men" and "-is" is a 'command' conjugation (which exists in some languages) it could translate directly. Or you could be correct that the 'must' is implied. Although that's making the translation sound a lot more pithy than the original
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2014, 09:31
http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/14/hilarious-game-of-thrones-long-story-short-video-condenses-shows-history-into-5-minutes-4578198/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Mar 2014, 07:08
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This teacher isn't fucking around any more.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Pilchard123 on 29 Mar 2014, 07:26
What a good way to punish those that weren't causing a problem.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Mar 2014, 08:45
Well at least it'll get everyone to read more.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: celticgeek on 29 Mar 2014, 20:24
This is an example of a general principle in education:  Make absolutely, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt sure that you punish ALL POSSIBLE innocent people, and maybe, if you're lucky, a few guilty ones.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Mar 2014, 21:38
Meh, mass punishment is a pretty common practice in many places, particularly in the Marines, it certainly encouraged us to police our fuckups before command had to take notice of them.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Mar 2014, 18:32
Entirely different, especially since kids would probably get in trouble for trying to stop another kid doing something themselves instead of going to a teacher.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Mar 2014, 04:25
You can still hiss "shut up" at the jackass gabbing in the back of class. Which is about all we can do. Remember you're not moving without permission in boot camp.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Mar 2014, 05:28
Would you forgive me if my first thought was less that and more the sock beating from FMJ?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Mar 2014, 05:56
I hear that's pretty effective too. Not that I'd know or anything.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Pilchard123 on 31 Mar 2014, 10:17
You can still hiss "shut up" at the jackass gabbing in the back of class. Which is about all we can do. Remember you're not moving without permission in boot camp.

But then you're 'making noise' and are part of the problem. Or something like that, anyway. I gave up trying to find logic in these things a long time ago.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 01 Apr 2014, 15:58
Random thought I had because I just re-watched the Blackwater episode - I'm not a big fan of Stannis because of the whole 'serves an evil fire god' thing, but his "Come with me and take this city" line in that episode is one of the most badass moments on television.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Apr 2014, 16:07
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Post by: Taekwondoin on 04 Apr 2014, 01:51
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 04 Apr 2014, 13:19
I often wonder how events would be different if Tyrion wasn't captured by Catlin.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Apr 2014, 14:17
Bronn would have been a lot less fortunate.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: HauntingPoem on 04 Apr 2014, 22:18
Bron is my favorite character from the TV adaptation, closely followed By Brean
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Apr 2014, 06:34
Is that Bran Stark or Brienne of Tarth?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schmee on 05 Apr 2014, 06:47
Bron is my favorite character from the TV adaptation, closely followed By Brean
I'm guessing that 'Bron' is Bronn, Tyrion's mercenary buddy, and 'Brean' is Brienne, the lady-knight with a crush on Renly. Right?
(Not trying to be some kind of elitist or book purist, just trying to clarify.)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Apr 2014, 06:51
Like I said, I wasn't sure if they meant Brienne or Bran, the climber who fell.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 05 Apr 2014, 07:27
"Ser Bronn of the Blackwater" is the most badass knight-name I've heard in the series yet.

With everyone else, it's just like
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 05 Apr 2014, 11:03
Bronn cracks me up. Also he's the most neutral neutral character ever and that is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Apr 2014, 11:48
neutral neutral
It always bugged me a bit that most people say "true neutral" instead of "neutral neutral".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 05 Apr 2014, 12:01
I always go by the chart:

lawful good       neutral good      chaotic good
lawful neutral   neutral neutral  chaotic neutral
lawful evil         neutral evil        chaotic evil

So it's neutral neutral. True neutral is not a thing, so I can see why you're annoyed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Apr 2014, 13:05
Interesting. The charts I've seen say "true neutral" or just "neutral".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 05 Apr 2014, 14:46
And now I can't find an example of that anywhere. Meh, oh well. I prefer my way, because if it's a chart of the characteristics of lawful, neutral, and chaotic with the characteristics of good, neutral, and evil, it should just be neutral neutral. Although I guess neutral or 4e unaligned works just as well.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 05 Apr 2014, 19:45
So the episode titles came out. As I've always suspected...book spoilers below

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Apr 2014, 19:49
My guess was episode 4 or 5, but yeah, most likely episode 2. Why would anyone think episode 9? So much happens after it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 05 Apr 2014, 22:34
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 06 Apr 2014, 04:54
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Not a spoiler, but would probably reveal what/who was being talked about in the spoilers -

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 06 Apr 2014, 07:36
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Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Apr 2014, 07:45
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Apr 2014, 16:55
Probably not gonna watch tonight because of Wrestlemania, but here's this.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Apr 2014, 19:09
First time watching it live!!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 06 Apr 2014, 19:10
HBO GO is overcapacity right now. I might have to wait until tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Apr 2014, 04:55
Just watched it this morning. The girl who plays Arya does such a good job.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 07 Apr 2014, 07:11
FUCK THE KING! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 07 Apr 2014, 14:59
Last night on HBO's GoT...
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I wonder if we'll see Lancel this season
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Apr 2014, 18:00
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Apr 2014, 17:50
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Apr 2014, 18:37
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Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Apr 2014, 02:09
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 03:06
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Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Apr 2014, 03:28
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Post by: Edguy on 10 Apr 2014, 05:34
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Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Apr 2014, 06:15
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 10 Apr 2014, 09:52
I suggest the creation of a book thread and a no-spoilers allowed rule for the tv series thread.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 11:26
Even with spoiler-tags? No way.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 10 Apr 2014, 11:33
Put book spoilers in spoilers and show stuff shouldn't need to be spoilered, because that's what the thread is for.

Or you know you guys could just read the dang books already because they're good. :-P
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 10 Apr 2014, 13:05
They are long and honestly the fourth one is awful. And I know what you mean, because the books color the show for me.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 13:06
Less than you think, and it's not too late. After this season, they're still only 3 of 5 books in. I read all five books between seasons 2 and 3 (after the first two books had aired), and seeing the show didn't make the books less great since there's so much more detail in the books. The only thing the show did when I read the books? I heard the characters' voices as the TV ones (especially Tyrion).

Linds, the fourth one isn't awful, although it is the weakest of the series and it follows the best. The Cersei chapters are pretty bad, though. The books only color the show for me in the sense that I know more than the show reveals, and I know what's going to happen (although not always, and it rarely happens when I think it will).
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 13:35
If you've seen the video version, won't that just be what you imagine when you read it?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 13:49
There's so much more detail in the books. But you don't need to read it if you don't want to.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 14:01
I meant detail plotwise.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 14:14
I wouldn't be able to keep the characters' names in order if I hadn't read the books, probably. (Even if they did needlessly change a few names, I'm looking at you, Asha Yara Greyjoy).
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Post by: 94ssd on 10 Apr 2014, 14:39
All this talk reminds of the "spoiler-free" version of the Honest Trailer, which may actually be funnier than the actual trailer.

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Post by: Lines on 10 Apr 2014, 14:42
Linds, the fourth one isn't awful, although it is the weakest of the series and it follows the best. The Cersei chapters are pretty bad, though. The books only color the show for me in the sense that I know more than the show reveals, and I know what's going to happen (although not always, and it rarely happens when I think it will).

In my opinion is awful. It was painful to read, I hate Cersei and it felt like she was most of the book, and seriously the only reason I plowed through it was because book 5 was out. And books coloring shows/movies is a problem for me. I hate it when the show world doesn't line up with the book world. But I'm also the complete opposite of Gareth. Shows don't color anything because I have an extremely vivid imagination. I'm actually happier if I see something before I read it, because my expectations for the books are so much higher.

And this is why I probably will hate The Giver. Love the book but the preview is so wrong simply because it's in color.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 14:45
The Giver looks terrible and they'll probably fuck up the ending.
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Post by: LeeC on 10 Apr 2014, 14:48
oh god they arnt doing it in black and white?!  That would be a good way to film it until
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2014, 15:05
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Post by: Lines on 10 Apr 2014, 18:56
The preview shows him running with a baby and being shot at by a plane. I don't remember planes. In regards to color, they could have at least desaturated it, but noooooo. They are going to fuck it up. I like Meryl Streep and I like Jeff Bridges, but I almost don't want to see it because I know I'm going to be so disappointed. I love that book and I've been wanting a movie for ages, but if they can't stick to the source material, I don't want to see it.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2014, 02:24
The preview shows him running with a baby
I know trailers always spoiler but DAMN.
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Post by: Lines on 11 Apr 2014, 03:50
This book has been out 20 years now and it's in the trailer. I think the why is a bigger spoiler anyways and I'm not saying why.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2014, 04:23
That was a criticism of the trailer, not you. Sorry if that was unclear.

Although the book/movie being old is irrelevant when it comes to spoilers unless the ending is already commonly known. (Darth Vader, Rosebud, etc.)
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Post by: 94ssd on 13 Apr 2014, 15:33
I've never been more excited for a TV episode in my life.
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Post by: J on 13 Apr 2014, 22:43
well damn.

you want something for so long, then when it finally happens, ya just don't quite know how to feel.




yay.
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Post by: Schmee on 14 Apr 2014, 00:46
...and there was much rejoicing.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 14 Apr 2014, 01:30
... when they ate Robin's minstrels?
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Post by: J on 14 Apr 2014, 03:31
just came across this on twitter & it made me chuckle

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https://twitter.com/DoodlyDoodle/status/455653086489767936
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2014, 06:58
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Post by: Taekwondoin on 14 Apr 2014, 07:03
Whatever we book readers think of this adaptation I'm so glad that
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2014, 07:08
What bugged me a bit? Sansa's necklace wasn't purple.
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Post by: LeeC on 14 Apr 2014, 07:52
Me and my girlfriend were laughing so hard, there were so many sick burns during that episode. it was magnificent!
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Post by: ChaoSera on 14 Apr 2014, 09:07
I liked the line Loras delivered to Jaime the best, for some reason it really cracked me up.
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Post by: 94ssd on 14 Apr 2014, 11:19
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Post by: LeeC on 14 Apr 2014, 11:33
Question: Was that Joffrey singing the rains of castamere in the end credits?


oh and the woman Ramsey was hunting, is she one of the 2 girls from Theon's cutting scene?

I appreciate that this series isn't going for grand gestures and quick fixes. I expected Goffrey or whoever the fuck you spell it to last until the last episode of the last season and then get skewered by a Stark, but given that the Starks now basically don't exist...
well...
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2014, 12:19
Book spoilers:

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Post by: pwhodges on 14 Apr 2014, 12:27
Remember that you can give the spoiler tag a title to give clue what it's for.
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Post by: 94ssd on 14 Apr 2014, 12:35
Question: Was that Joffrey singing the rains of castamere in the end credits?

No, it was Sigur Rós. They're also the ones who did it during the episode.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 Apr 2014, 16:23
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Post by: ChaoSera on 15 Apr 2014, 01:42
People really need to stop making these gifs, they are so damn annoying. Just put it all in one damn picture.
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Post by: J on 15 Apr 2014, 02:20
why even make a .gif in the first place? why not just post the video?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2014, 02:45
Holy crap the Hound was Lurch. That's awesome.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2014, 03:27
Yarp.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Apr 2014, 07:24
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Post by: ChaoSera on 15 Apr 2014, 07:29
I don't really get that one, Brienne doesn't love Jaime, she's pretty much hung up on Renly, even though he's dead.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Apr 2014, 07:49
Or perhaps she does!  :-D
Honestly I don't think she loves him, maybe finds him interesting but nothing has really blossomed much.  I think it was more Cersi projecting her insecurities of loosing Jamie (even though she spurned him last episode).  Brienne's reaction (to me) is that Cersi instantly had her on her shit list.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2014, 12:05
Jaime definitely trusts Brienne more than he trusts Cersei, and that's just as dangerous to Cersei, if not more so.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Apr 2014, 05:12
http://undergroundmgzn.com/2014/04/15/man-ruins-game-thrones-series-novels-full-spoilers/

Man. What a dick.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Apr 2014, 12:21
It's no longer there, did he just go up to random people and say what happened?
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Post by: ChaoSera on 16 Apr 2014, 13:34
No, it's an article, saying there is this guy named 'G.R.R. Martin' who has apparently written an entirety of FIVE BOOKS, full of spoilers and details of what's going to happen in Game of Thrones. Obviously a real douche, you see.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Apr 2014, 13:38
Ahh weird, the link didn't work before.
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Apr 2014, 18:15
Jack Gleeson still showed up in the opening credits for episode 3. I guess because Joffrey's corpse was on screen for two seconds.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Apr 2014, 18:25
Damn it, HBO Go, hurry up.
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Apr 2014, 18:29
Damn it, HBO Go, hurry up.

I'm having no problems with it.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Apr 2014, 18:34
"We're sorry, video cannot be played at this time. We are working on this issue and hope to have it resolved soon."
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Apr 2014, 19:11
I don't remember his name, but I love the brutally honest Night's Watch guy.

EDIT: I remembered, it's Pip.
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Post by: henri bemis on 20 Apr 2014, 21:17
Have you ever wished for a mashup of Frozen and Game of Thrones?  Here's Let it Go(T).

Spoilers through S4E2, so don't play otherwise.

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Post by: J on 20 Apr 2014, 21:32
damn it jamie, they worked so hard making you sympathetic, and now what'd you have to go and do...
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Apr 2014, 21:50
damn it jamie, they worked so hard making you sympathetic, and now what'd you have to go and do...

I never at any point stopped hating him. The only thing I ever sympathized with was that he was right to kill the Madking. I never liked his character though, because I have a better memory than most viewers and I remember a little incident where he fucking PUSHED A KID OUT A WINDOW. What we got tonight was a confirmation of the fact that he is one of the biggest shitbags in the series, which is really saying something.

Speaking of evil (but much more likeable, in this case), Littlefinger is back!
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Apr 2014, 12:16
You see with Jaime I was hoping to see him change, showing him as total shit bag but he slowly starts changing (with the absence of his evil sister and being around noble Brienne). Even with the episode where he realizes there isnt much in the king's guard history about him, and Brienne trying to make him more honorable... But then he does this...

Haven't Seen Robert's Bastard in awhile, and its been several episodes!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Apr 2014, 12:29
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Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Apr 2014, 15:02
There was a really good article about that on AV club... and it's more than a little creepy once you track on the implications.
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Post by: Schmee on 21 Apr 2014, 18:58
There was a really good article about that on AV club... and it's more than a little creepy once you track on the implications.
The article's here (http://www.avclub.com/article/rape-thrones-203499), if anyone's interested.
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Post by: J on 21 Apr 2014, 19:33
You see with Jaime I was hoping to see him change, showing him as total shit bag but he slowly starts changing (with the absence of his evil sister and being around noble Brienne). Even with the episode where he realizes there isnt much in the king's guard history about him, and Brienne trying to make him more honorable... But then he does this...

see, that's kind of how i feel about the whole thing. yeah, he casually murders people when it suits him, but we've seen so many people so much worse than him. and despite everything, it's the one good thing he's done in his life that everyone constantly shits all over him for.

then, when he sticks his neck on the line for brienne you start to see a different side of him. you remember that he's pretty much the only person in the world who's actually nice to tyrian. you start to think, maybe, maybe he could have been better than he is, given different circumstances. i never really liked jamie, but damned if i didn't start to feel for the guy a bit.

aaannd then he goes and rapes his grieving/psychotic sister right next to the fresh corpse of their son/nephew, seemingly just for spite.


it will be interesting to see where they go with his character from here, to say the least.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Apr 2014, 19:45
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2014, 03:32
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Then why have that scene at all if so much had changed?
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Post by: Valdís on 22 Apr 2014, 03:44
What by Hel.. :-(

The article's here (http://www.avclub.com/article/rape-thrones-203499), if anyone's interested.

Okay, so, she said no in the book, but was ignored and "Turns out she just didn't know she wanted it"? Ugh..

And it's a chapter written from Jaime's point of view (unlike the show), subject to the potential distortion of being the rapist's perception?

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You're missing the point. Changing this scene to a rape makes even less narrative sense than changing Dany's relationship with Drogo.

Some not-so-subtle racism there, maybe? The brown man is just way more believable as a rapist, even though he specifically stops and asks if she doesn't want it to happen?

Still a super-problematic relationship that is all kinds of fucked up, but I don't really see how it's so much more believable.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2014, 04:09
Not so much "the brown man" as "the man who had just purchased a child bride" as opposed to a decades long relationship. That being said, Drogo's change made far less sense, especially with how she still falls in love with him soon after.
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Post by: Valdís on 22 Apr 2014, 04:31
Right, but bride prices are common and it's not like the Westerosi have a more reasonable age of consent (Sansa at 13 to Tyrion, for instance). Of course that doesn't change that it's taking a scared, mistreated teenage girl and sending her off to marry an older man. Not at all saying it does.

But if doing the same rewrite with Tyrion, who happens to be white, ignoring Sansa's lack of consent.. Yeah. I doubt that type of comment would've been written for that.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Apr 2014, 04:39
Cept everyone's been saying Drogo's change didn't make sense either...
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2014, 04:43
That being said, Cersei had a much worse time after being married off to Robert than Dany did to Drogo. It's why she objected so heavily to being married again.
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Post by: Valdís on 22 Apr 2014, 04:47
Cept everyone's been saying Drogo's change didn't make sense either...

And I was talking about this specific racist line of thought, where they just feel it makes more sense, not those other people?
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Post by: LeeC on 22 Apr 2014, 10:31
I think you are making race more of an issue than it really is (Honestly i wouldnt consider him brown).  I think they were trying to get across that this was a large army of brutish barbarians and they wanted to convey it with actions rather than just exposition dialog. We've seen white dudes in the series rape quite a few women (hell the Chicken scene with the Hound, that lady sure did not act like she liked the way she was being passed around, rape was definitely implied).  I am not saying its acceptable but the sad truth is this kind of thing happened back in medieval times regularly (not to say it doesnt happen at all in modern times either).  On top of that, in old timey times it was quite common for a young girl to be married off to some older man and to consummate the marriage the night of the wedding (maybe not the "bedding ceremony" we saw with the Tully wedding, but unless consummated the marriage was not considered "official") but I am pretty sure many of those young women were forced on by their husbands because they are now married and "didn't have a choice."  Its ugly and horrid (I hate when authors use rape as a plot device or story telling tool) but to ignore that it ever happened would be lying to the reader. The author and directors of this fantasy land is trying to show how dark and scarey and it is and that its not the devout knight in shining armor fantasy of King Arthur. Often times the "Hero" type will end up dead or be(come) less than honorable in this fantasy land. 

I think that's one of the appeals of the show.  Its not predictable and we can related to being in an ugly scarey world where we do not know what will happen or if we are making the right decisions.  Our leader is shit and would rather kill than help their citizens.  The only person who seems to have the best interest of the people gets thrown in jail. Family's go to war or have internal disputes. Being poor and being trampled by the rich.
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Post by: Metope on 22 Apr 2014, 10:52
Here's a quote from GRRM on the episode:

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Post by: LeeC on 22 Apr 2014, 11:04
Metope: scroll up a few posts, its already there, in a spoiler about his blog  :wink:

Having someone fall in love with their rapist is bad enough on its own.
Yeah  :-\
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Post by: Metope on 22 Apr 2014, 13:27
Oops, sorry! I only saw the AV Club article, I guess I should spoiler mine too.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2014, 13:55
Well I mean there's no reason to even have it there, it's word for word what I posted. But it's up to you.
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Post by: LeeC on 22 Apr 2014, 20:20
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Post by: Metope on 23 Apr 2014, 04:06
Ha Method, I know. I just hate it when people delete posts so that the thread doesn't make sense to people coming in later, so I'd rather just leave it.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Apr 2014, 04:28
Fair enough.
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Apr 2014, 15:12
so about last night...
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Post by: J on 01 May 2014, 17:05
just came across this, and it is awesome

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Post by: Edguy on 02 May 2014, 11:57
Man, episode 4 sure deviated a lot from the books. What will happen north of the wall? How will the status quo lead into the events to come? Where is Coldhands?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2014, 12:36
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 May 2014, 13:35
Where is Coldhands?

Up the back of your shirt, making you squawk?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2014, 18:33
Probably a good call. Or read the books :roll:
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Post by: Lines on 03 May 2014, 06:36
Luckily the major spoiler about that character is in spoiler tags, so Gareth, if you don't know who he is, don't worry about it. I haven't watched any of season 4 yet, but if the plan is to leave that character out and redo it somehow, you won't notice.
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Post by: LeeC on 12 May 2014, 04:29
entitled: Peter Dinklage after this episode...
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Post by: Valdís on 12 May 2014, 11:55
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Ye gods.. I feel ya, Tyrion! <3
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2014, 13:22
Ramsay shouldn't be calling himself Snow. Usually I don't have problems with changes from the book, but that just doesn't work.

Edit: Just finished the episode. Gods damn, Dinklage, well done.

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Post by: Lines on 12 May 2014, 18:48
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I have not caught up on the show, but in regards to your spoiler...

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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2014, 18:49
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Post by: Lines on 12 May 2014, 19:20
One of these days I'm going to catch up on this show. Maybe when I'm on vacation in June... Hmm...
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2014, 19:25
How far behind are you?
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 12 May 2014, 19:30
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Have you planted any Easter eggs in the show?
David Peterson: One of the biggest is from Episode 3 this season. There’s a scene where the Meereenese rider is challenging Daenerys’ champion. He’s shouting and Nathalie Emmanuel [Missandei] is translating – but she’s not translating what he’s saying. He’s actually saying a Low Valyrian translation of the French guy’s insults in ‘Monty Python and the Holy Grail.’ That was [series creator] Dan Weiss’s idea and it was so hilarious that I had to do it.

Have fans caught on?
David Peterson: They know that something’s going on. Right after that episode aired, I was getting tweets like, “Is he saying a ‘your momma’ joke?” Close… But no, he’s actually starting out with, “Your mother is a hamster.”  (x) (http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2014/5/8/interview-with-linguist-david-peterson)
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Post by: Lines on 13 May 2014, 06:21
How far behind are you?

I've only watched through season 2. I'm pretty behind on the show. But I've read all of the books, so it's not like I'm missing out entirely.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 13 May 2014, 19:40
Targaryen...did you mean "tire center"? :mrgreen:
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Post by: 94ssd on 13 May 2014, 20:10
Spell check is cool but grammar check really pisses me off. Yes, I get that I write things in the passive voice, you sometimes have to do that if you're writing an academic paper. Meanwhile if I'm writing anything that isn't a research paper, I don't need you pointing out every time I use a contraction. It gets especially annoying when I'm writing a script and it points out every time a sentence is too long, has a comma splice, or ends with a preposition. I'm TRYING to write the way people talk for fuck's sake. 

Anyway, I decided to try to put some ASOIAF names in Word:
The suggested correction for Targaryen was "margarine."
For Baratheon it was parathion
Greyjoy - Greyson.
Lannister - banister.

It accepted Stark Tully, Martell, and Tyrell without issue.

Cersei - Cerise
Joffrey - Jeffery
Tyrion - Tyron
Tommen - tom men
Oberyn - Obrien
Stannis - stannic, which means "of, relating to, or containing tin"
Daenerys - deaneries

In the category of "oddly fitting spell checks," Baelish was corrected to abolish and Varys was corrected to varies.

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 13 May 2014, 21:28
I was just thinking about how many damn titles/claims to titles Daenerys has amassed for herself at this point in the show.

"Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, the First of Her Name. Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Queen of Meereen, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons."

I'm reminded of Skyrim where you just become leader of everything except Skyrim itself, or how the Pope's full title is "His Holiness Francis I, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 14 May 2014, 02:18
I literally checked my watch during that shit.

'Okay, she has titles, JESUS.'

Also this week's episode was the best one in well over a season.

P.S. dear showrunners, stop trying to make Jaime into an antihero, he raped his sister and pushed a child out a window KTHXBAI
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 14 May 2014, 09:10
(http://i.imgur.com/9rxO5JT.jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 14 May 2014, 09:32
Yo homes, chop my fingers. That's gold. :-D
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 15 May 2014, 03:12
"Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, the First of Her Name. Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Queen of Meereen, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons, the Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be, the Charismatic Enigma, The Bizz Bozz, The Puff Pastry Hangman, The Boss, Cheggers, the Real Slim Shady, the Rap God, the Hardest Working Man in Showbiz, the Man in Black, The Emotional Debt Collector, yo baby's momma's momma, the Ombudsman of Funk..."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 15 May 2014, 10:55
(http://i.imgur.com/J3zgjfx.png)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 May 2014, 16:42
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/251b36e66e94d57bebf1469e78b72ca4/tumblr_n4q4dr8xQJ1r7konko1_400.gif)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 May 2014, 17:13
Ty-what.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: henri bemis on 16 May 2014, 21:03
Banisters in the House!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 May 2014, 05:07
The Banisters send their regards.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 17 May 2014, 09:33

"Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, the First of Her Name. Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, Protector of the Realm, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Queen of Meereen, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons."

Don't forget she's also The Unburnt. :roll:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 May 2014, 14:44
I wonder why they're taking Memorial Eve off.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 May 2014, 19:40
Boy, Lady Arryn sure knows how to fall in love

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 18 May 2014, 20:46
I'm not done watching it yet, but I just wanted to comment that there is only 10 minutes left of an episode called Mockingbird and there has been no Petyr yet.

EDIT: Ugh, FINALLY.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 18 May 2014, 21:31
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 19 May 2014, 00:07
I wonder why they're taking Memorial Eve off.
HBO likes to debut their big event movies on that night. That's also two weeks for the internet hype machine to build up the next episode.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 May 2014, 04:44
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It's generally not a big deal when they change little things from the book, but I hated the replacement of "Only Cat" with "your sister". I mean...come on, he was talking about he only ever loved one person.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 19 May 2014, 07:29
My biggest complaint with this episode was the Moon Door effect. It was terrible-looking and definitely less than what I've come to expect from this show.

In fact, go back and watch Tyrion's trial in the Vale from Season ONE. When Bronn made Vardis fly it looked a LOT better than it did in last night's episode.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 19 May 2014, 08:50
looked the same to me.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 19 May 2014, 18:25
Totally never realized this until now, her appearance in Deathly Hallows is so brief that I didn't recognize her.

(http://slaymyboredom.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/filch-hermione.jpg)

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 May 2014, 20:07
Holy shit, I didn't realize Filch was Frey.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Jimor on 20 May 2014, 14:46
My biggest complaint with this episode was the Moon Door effect. It was terrible-looking and definitely less than what I've come to expect from this show.

In fact, go back and watch Tyrion's trial in the Vale from Season ONE. When Bronn made Vardis fly it looked a LOT better than it did in last night's episode.

It quite jumped out at me as badly done as well.

Can't believe the season is more than half over already.  :psyduck:
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Post by: LeeC on 20 May 2014, 17:13
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 May 2014, 17:42
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 20 May 2014, 17:44
when that happened I whispered into my girlfriend's ear "Conceal, don't feel" speaking for Jorah.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 20 May 2014, 18:58
It's generally not a big deal when they change little things from the book, but I hated the replacement of "Only Cat" with "your sister". I mean...come on, he was talking about he only ever loved one person.

Apparently I'm the only book-reader who doesn't think that the "Only Cat" line is the BEST EVER and doesn't mind the change.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 May 2014, 20:27
I thought I was the only one, I haven't seen anyone else who noticed that, but...cool, then. I don't think it's the BEST EVER, but I think it's better than the replacement, which makes the replacement unnecessary at best.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 21 May 2014, 14:26
It's generally not a big deal when they change little things from the book, but I hated the replacement of "Only Cat" with "your sister". I mean...come on, he was talking about he only ever loved one person.

Apparently I'm the only book-reader who doesn't think that the "Only Cat" line is the BEST EVER and doesn't mind the change.

My friend loved it too, he said it makes it even less personal to her.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 May 2014, 19:27
Loved the original line or the change?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 21 May 2014, 19:45
He loved the change
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 May 2014, 19:51
Your friend is strange.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 May 2014, 21:28
Gordon Ramsay Snow and Bobby Flayed Man #thechefsofhousebolton
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: henri bemis on 25 May 2014, 12:32
GRS: "That pigeon pie is DREADFUL!"
BFM: "ICWU did there...  You forgot to add my barbecue sauce!  (the secret ingredient is human blood)"
GRS: "I still think it's a dog's dinner.  There's pigeon shit on the crust!"
BFM: "But... my barbecue sauce!"
GRS: "Don't worry, I'm sure the girls will love it."
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 May 2014, 18:18
Is that what they're known for? (shrugs)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 30 May 2014, 06:41
want:

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 30 May 2014, 12:23
Not sure if this has been posted already.  Its an interesting read:
A Complete Analysis of Robb Stark as a Military Commander (http://bryndenbfish.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/a-complete-analysis-of-robb-stark-as-a-military-commander/)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 30 May 2014, 14:55
I found this yesterday.

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 01 Jun 2014, 17:38
Wow, and I felt stupid when I didn't realize that Michelle Fairley was Hermione's mother.

(http://media.tumblr.com/7086610fcf3eb02694f82405f183568d/tumblr_inline_mlb7914taK1qz4rgp.png)

Also learned that Orell was the pirate with a glass eye from Pirates of the Caribbean.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Jun 2014, 17:40
I don't even remember the scenes with Hermione's mother, I wouldn't feel bad.

Although she is on this season of 24, playing a pretty hardcore villain.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 01 Jun 2014, 19:44
*insert jokes about Inigio Montoya/head and puns here*

Monologuing before killing your enemies is always a bad idea.

Also, Lena Headey tried to warn us:

(http://img3.hungertv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/5750-9-015_f2-copy-518x470.jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Jun 2014, 19:57
Boy, he sure had a headache
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Jun 2014, 21:09
Wow, and I felt stupid when I didn't realize that Michelle Fairley was Hermione's mother.

(http://media.tumblr.com/7086610fcf3eb02694f82405f183568d/tumblr_inline_mlb7914taK1qz4rgp.png)

Also learned that Orell was the pirate with a glass eye from Pirates of the Caribbean.

You mean Tonks?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Jun 2014, 21:20
That's not Michelle Fairley pictured (Michelle Fairley is Catelyn Stark). And yeah, I guess that is Tonks, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schmee on 01 Jun 2014, 22:56
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 01 Jun 2014, 23:21
Wow, and I felt stupid when I didn't realize that Michelle Fairley was Hermione's mother.

(http://media.tumblr.com/7086610fcf3eb02694f82405f183568d/tumblr_inline_mlb7914taK1qz4rgp.png)

Also learned that Orell was the pirate with a glass eye from Pirates of the Caribbean.

You mean Tonks?

That pic is Osha/Tonks.

Also I think Fairly was only in the 7th HP film, so she would be easy to miss. I only noticed after watching the movies a few times.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 02 Jun 2014, 03:51
That's not Michelle Fairley pictured (Michelle Fairley is Catelyn Stark). And yeah, I guess that is Tonks, I'm not sure.

I know. Earlier in the thread I made a post about Michelle Fairley.

Tonks and Osha are both played by Natalia Tena.
 
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jun 2014, 05:26
Speaking of Osha, it kind of pissed me off that they went the Viewers are Stupid route and changed Asha's name to Yara (and also pretty much ruined her storyline in general).

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 02 Jun 2014, 08:35
Speaking of Osha, it kind of pissed me off that they went the Viewers are Stupid route and changed Asha's name to Yara (and also pretty much ruined her storyline in general).

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 02 Jun 2014, 11:35
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 03 Jun 2014, 19:43
I've been saying that to people for a while. You shouldn't put so much pressure on artists.

I'd rather have a good work that takes a long time than crap that was cranked out to satisfy the masses.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jun 2014, 19:44
Quote from: Oberyn Martell
My eyes! The goggles do nothing!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 03 Jun 2014, 19:53
So for book-readers, Lena has posted another very interesting picture on Instagram. Not really a spoiler, because non-book readers wouldn't really get it (I've spoilered it below anyway), more of a hint. About something that will most likely happen in Episode 10.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 04 Jun 2014, 01:44
I'm more looking forward to fun on the crapper, if you catch my drift. Goddamn, I want to see that scene already.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 04 Jun 2014, 05:44
Someone will be looking forward to a golden embrace, "For hands of gold are always cold..":)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jun 2014, 05:52
I'm more looking forward to fun on the crapper, if you catch my drift. Goddamn, I want to see that scene already.
Same, it'd complete the trifecta of things I've been looking forward to all seasons, after the Purple Wedding and Gregor v. Oberyn. Btw, I was so worried that Gregor would fuck up his murderous monologue and he didn't. So happy.

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Post by: Edguy on 04 Jun 2014, 07:58
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Post by: Edguy on 04 Jun 2014, 08:07
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 04 Jun 2014, 08:10
Simple sum up of episode 8 (http://imgur.com/a/z7M7U?gallery)   :-D
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Jun 2014, 13:08
Oberyn: what a cunt.

Gareth's viewing experience of the fight:
Okay dude twirly spear shit doesn't win battles.
No one gives a fuck about what happened to your sister, you're, you know, fighting to save someone else's life.
STOP MONOLOGUING AND KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER.
Oh, look, I didn't see that coming. You stupid, stupid fuck.

If they actually kill Tyrien - and I really doubt they will - I would probably stop watching. I really don't root for anyone else.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Jun 2014, 14:22
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Last week on game of thrones
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 04 Jun 2014, 15:06
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(Fixed the image - Method)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 04 Jun 2014, 23:17
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 05 Jun 2014, 09:16
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 07 Jun 2014, 17:22
I'm really excited for tomorrow's episode because it's directed by Neil Marshall. He also directed Blackwater, which is still my favorite episode. And (only very slight spoiler)
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Grognard on 07 Jun 2014, 21:51
Oberyn: what a cunt.

Gareth's viewing experience of the fight:
Okay dude twirly spear shit doesn't win battles.
No one gives a fuck about what happened to your sister, you're, you know, fighting to save someone else's life.
STOP MONOLOGUING AND KILL THE MOTHERFUCKER.
Oh, look, I didn't see that coming. You stupid, stupid fuck.

If they actually kill Tyrien - and I really doubt they will - I would probably stop watching. I really don't root for anyone else.

HA. for the VERY first time, the cable co. comps me for an outage... so I get HBO for the weekend.
thus, I get to watch this, my very first episode. :psyduck:

and yeah.  Epic monologue is a GREAT way to telegraph: "I'm about to die messily."
dumbass.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2014, 06:48
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2014, 18:12
Gotta love Sam explaining how the vows don't ban fucking, just marrying or having kids. Technically true, but probably wouldn't help if you get caught.

Edit: You know nothing, Jon Snow :'(
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Jun 2014, 19:10
That was one heck of a fight
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 08 Jun 2014, 20:09
this scene was pretty metal
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 08 Jun 2014, 20:13
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Jun 2014, 20:50
this scene was pretty metal
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I was wondering what those chains would do. My girlfriend cheered when they came down
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 08 Jun 2014, 20:56
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 09 Jun 2014, 08:36
Great episode. Unless I'm mistaken this was also the first episode that played entirely in one location.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Jun 2014, 08:38
Great episode. Unless I'm mistaken this was also the first episode that played entirely in one location.

Blackwater (Season 2, Episode 9), which was another large battle and directed by the same guy, was all in King's Landing or just outside its walls.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 09 Jun 2014, 08:42
Oh, right. I forgot about that one. So this is apparently a privilege reserved for large battles. I like it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 Jun 2014, 10:20
Been waiting all season to find out what happens to this guy and he has yet to make an appearance (taps foot impatiently).
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My guess:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jun 2014, 11:31
Edit: You know nothing, Jon Snow :'(

My eyes rolled so hard at this line they nearly fell out of my head.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 Jun 2014, 11:45
I need to stop internetting, just figured out who Arya and the Hound were talking to in the preview of the next episode.  :x
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 14:23
Hell, I don't even know who they're talking to.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Jun 2014, 14:46
I need to stop internetting, just figured out who Arya and the Hound were talking to in the preview of the next episode.  :x

I haven't seen the preview, nor do I know who they're supposedly talking to. But that scene is an add-on from the books (every Arya/Hound scene since like episode 2 of this season has been), so whatever spoiler you think you got is either a troll or someone making a guess.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 14:59
What 94 said.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 Jun 2014, 15:03
It is a guess...
look at the shoulder
*SPOILER*
http://i.imgur.com/4xuuxcf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/4xuuxcf.jpg)
*SPOILER*
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 15:16
Hmm...

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2014, 16:15
The latest Mountain is only 25 years old. HE IS YOUNGER THAN I AM!!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 16:19
Damn it, me too.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Jun 2014, 16:39
The latest Mountain is only 25 years old. HE IS YOUNGER THAN I AM!!

He's a hell of a lot younger than the actor playing his younger brother. Rory McCann is 45.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 09 Jun 2014, 18:09
the hound's older brother is young enough to be his son.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2014, 19:09
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Valdís on 09 Jun 2014, 19:22
dat nod
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Jun 2014, 00:59
I found this episode a bit boring honestly. I guess these days I have less of a nerd-boner for violence and I'm more about plot development, so in this episode the plot development amounted to 'they held the castle BTW'.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: KOK on 10 Jun 2014, 03:45
What 94 said.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jun 2014, 04:49
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Post by: KOK on 10 Jun 2014, 05:13
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Taekwondoin on 10 Jun 2014, 06:15
What 94 said.

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So I guess you haven't heard of this? http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/60808-the-gravedigging-hound-complete-analysis/ (http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/60808-the-gravedigging-hound-complete-analysis/) (book spoilers in the link)

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jun 2014, 12:10
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Of course I do!

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Taekwondoin on 10 Jun 2014, 12:19
I think you are all getting you Clegane's mixed up.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2014, 17:58
HBO Go better not fuck with me tonight. (It's actually been pretty good the last few weeks, the beginning of the season not so much)

Edit: Alright, watching now, maybe a couple minutes behind the actual network but it's all good.

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Edit: Yep, that happened.

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Valar morghulis/valar dohaeris :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 15 Jun 2014, 19:27
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2014, 19:33
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jun 2014, 20:41
What a coincidence
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 15 Jun 2014, 23:55
daym, i totally forgot about that!
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Post by: Torlek on 16 Jun 2014, 00:34
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2014, 07:43
So did Varys get on the boat?  I'm being told that didn't happen in the books but seems to be the case in the show.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 16 Jun 2014, 09:25
So did Varys get on the boat?  I'm being told that didn't happen in the books but seems to be the case in the show.

It doesn't explicitly happen in the books but Varys does disappear from King's Landing for a time so he may well have hopped a boat somewhere else.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 16 Jun 2014, 11:02
Best. Fight. Scene. Ever.

A mix of graceful, graceless, brutal, desperate, ragged and ultimately futile. I couldn't root for either side and I loved it.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Jun 2014, 11:19
Yeah may as well list my thoughts.
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All in all, a very entertaining episode but I am increasingly realising just how unpleasant a universe this is and finding myself rooting for... well, no-one.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2014, 11:35
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Well, In Tyrion's defense:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 16 Jun 2014, 11:58
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 16 Jun 2014, 13:56
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Well, In Tyrion's defense:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2014, 14:18
Yes, but she did in the show. The show has its key differences, and the books are becoming less and less of a guide for the overall story of the show. That's not to say people shouldn't read and watch!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 17 Jun 2014, 12:58
He is Martyn Lancaster in season 3 episode 3.
(http://i.imgur.com/FgJEZtZ.jpg)

Then he shows up in season four as King...
(http://i.imgur.com/QKzY3D6.jpg)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 14:02
Lancaster
Posting from the phone? :roll:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 17 Jun 2014, 14:28
the original author in imgur might have originally, I didn't catch it haha.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 14:35
A Lancaster always pays his debts.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 17 Jun 2014, 14:49
they did in the war of the roses.  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 14:55
Well done :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 18 Jun 2014, 10:17
Slightly fuming because someone on another forum I go on's argument is basically 'oh well Cersei and Jamie had consensual sex in the last episode so the other episode clearly wasn't rape.'

THAT'S NOT HOW RAPE WORKS YOU FUCKING JACKASS
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Valdís on 18 Jun 2014, 21:41
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Slightly fuming because someone on another forum I go on's argument is basically 'oh well Cersei and Jamie had consensual sex in the last episode so the other episode clearly wasn't rape.'

THAT'S NOT HOW RAPE WORKS YOU FUCKING JACKASS

That 'reconnecting' between Cersei and Jaime was such a damn nauseating thing to watch. Every scene Jaime is in is gross to sit through. A thousand times more so when they try to portray him in a positive light still (EDIT: not as in "would prefer a monster-caricature", but as in "the fucking showrunners accept that he's a rapist"). Really hoping that in the next season he's present as little as possible.

Though I'm basically not expecting anything decent of any male characters at this point given what's considered character development on their end, so.. Valar Morghulis. (http://velvetpanic.tumblr.com/post/88760479154/valar-morghulis-yes-all-men-must-die-but-we)

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 18 Jun 2014, 22:43
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2014, 04:39
If anyone expects any character to be decent, then you're expecting too much...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 20 Jun 2014, 08:06
If anyone expects any character to be decent, then you're expecting too much...
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2014, 11:06
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Jun 2014, 11:10
If anyone expects any character to be decent, then you're expecting too much...
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My dear sweet summer child...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Valdís on 20 Jun 2014, 17:14
Except that's not what I said. There's a difference between "good guy, happy ending" and "viewed in a sympathetic light, but is literally a rapist or murdered an ex etc.".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 20 Jun 2014, 18:00
I'm going to agree with Valdis. The problem is not that he's a character who committed rape (although that seems like a really unnecessary addition), you can create a character who does evil things. The problem is that the writers of the show are putting a lot of effort into still trying to make him out as a sympathetic character.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Thrillho on 20 Jun 2014, 18:05
I'm a little bit worried that they don't actually know he committed a rape.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2014, 19:48
(although that seems like a really unnecessary addition)
What Gareth said, they didn't seem to realize they added that.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 20 Jun 2014, 22:15
For the record I was talking about Tyrion, and I don't recall him being a rapist.  Now the Jamie situation...yeah show producers really fucked up that story arc after that and there is no way to back pedal that one.  It really seems like they totally didn't even consider what they were depicting, even in the editing process.  I am sure GRRM just facepalmed like crazy after seeing that, considering (from what I've heard) it didn't go down that way in the books he wrote.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Jun 2014, 16:49
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Jun 2014, 17:00
I don't get it :psyduck:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 23 Jun 2014, 02:14
Me neither. Did the actor playing Jeoffrey buy a Llama or something?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 23 Jun 2014, 07:39
I don't get it :psyduck:
Emperor's new groove joke.

Shit emperor was suppose to be poisoned.  Turned into Llama by mistake. Hilarity ensues.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Pilchard123 on 23 Jun 2014, 12:05
H'yeah. Weird.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 Jun 2014, 13:58
(http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/2/22/Dontos_HBO.jpg/544px-Dontos_HBO.jpg)
Oh right, the poison
The poison for Joffrey
The poison chosen specifically to kill Joffrey
Joffrey's poison
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 24 Jun 2014, 11:23
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They have a complicated Bromance.  They're no Robert and Eddard though. They were bros 5ever.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 25 Jun 2014, 07:49
At times I like their bromance better though. Especially since Stannis is so difficult to get along with.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 25 Jun 2014, 10:18
yeah and poor Dave follows him around like a lost puppy.  Hes bromance level of affection toward Stan is so high.  I am sure he would sacrifice his first born son if he could.

(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/got-game-of-thrones-30979435-500-281.gif)
...oh yeah.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Jun 2014, 15:21
Lol at calling Davos "Dave". I get Stan*, but "Dave" doesn't work. Maybe "Davy"? (rhymes with Avi)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 25 Jun 2014, 15:26
Nah I stick with Dave. Sometimes I call him Davey (like navy). Like how I call king Robert Bobby B.  Its just funny to me and my circle of friends I guess.  :-P
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Jun 2014, 15:27
Ha, Bobby B works nicely. I just thought of this, how about calling Ned Stark "Eddy"?

Oh, and I'm listening to the books on tape I acquired at work (a way to pass time, and catch stuff I missed the first readthrough) I'm still on book one, but it's so weird how the guy pronounces some names. Like "Petyr", he pronounces it "Pet tire" instead of just "Peter".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 25 Jun 2014, 15:29
nah Ned is fine  :wink:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2014, 05:02
Stupid Sexy Stark :psyduck:

Also, I read an article the other day that said the show isn't doing Lady Stoneheart...ever. :(
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Detachable Felix on 26 Jun 2014, 05:16
Link it or I refuse to believe it.  :-\
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 26 Jun 2014, 05:30
Also, I read an article the other day that said the show isn't doing Lady Stoneheart...ever. :(
Nah she'll be in it. Just maybe not as soon as fans would expect.  Unless its officially from HBO then I wouldn't trust the article.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 26 Jun 2014, 06:39
Also, I read an article the other day that said the show isn't doing Lady Stoneheart...ever. :(

B...but...Lena Headey's Instagram.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2014, 07:04
Also, I read an article the other day that said the show isn't doing Lady Stoneheart...ever. :(
Nah she'll be in it. Just maybe not as soon as fans would expect.  Unless its officially from HBO then I wouldn't trust the article.
Why would HBO spoil their own show?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 26 Jun 2014, 09:23
They wouldn't but I also doubt they would officially say they kept a character out either.  Any article saying the will are empty rumors.  Usually by fans who were expecting to see the character by now and are assuming they are leaving here out because they have with cold hands and some others.  Its all unfounded. That's all I meant.

The fandom:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 26 Jun 2014, 10:18
Also, I read an article the other day that said the show isn't doing Lady Stoneheart...ever. :(
Nah she'll be in it. Just maybe not as soon as fans would expect.  Unless its officially from HBO then I wouldn't trust the article.
Why would HBO spoil their own show?

They wouldn't. So there's no way whatever article you read is from an official source.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2014, 17:06
The article I read (but forget where) is quoting the actress directly. Keep in mind, I really hope they're wrong.

Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 26 Jun 2014, 17:36
That video is awesome and I lol'd.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 26 Jun 2014, 18:52
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Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2014, 19:15
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Post by: Schmee on 27 Jun 2014, 01:57
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jun 2014, 20:13
I made this just now, inspired by Tyrion's trial and Peter Dinklage's picture with Grumpy Cat.

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Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jun 2014, 19:13

TV spoilers in it. I love it, but my one criticism? Not having Hodor as the "Ann B. Davis as Alice".
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 Jun 2014, 19:27
Has anyone read the Tales of Dunk and Egg? I've only read the Marvel comics version, the Hedge Knight and the Sworn Sword, but I really like how different things are compared to the Westeros in A Song of Fire and Ice.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Jul 2014, 20:10
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Kugai on 02 Jul 2014, 14:19
And so it goes
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jul 2014, 15:23
Is it that hard to dye eyebrows?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 02 Jul 2014, 16:04
Has anyone read the Tales of Dunk and Egg? I've only read the Marvel comics version, the Hedge Knight and the Sworn Sword, but I really like how different things are compared to the Westeros in A Song of Fire and Ice.

I've read them, pretty good, enjoyed almost as much as the main books. It's pretty much like how the books had been if you'd followed only one character, instead of like 20. It's also funny to catch mentions of characters from ToDaE (which is set approx. 80 years prior to the "current" events) in the books and TV show. Does anyone recall hearing of some legendary knight names Ser Duncan the Tall? Some characters from the tales are also relevant in the current plot, and some will be relevant further down the line.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jul 2014, 17:10
I figure I'll go and read those after A Dream of Spring comes out.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Valdís on 03 Jul 2014, 09:23
Is it that hard to dye eyebrows?

It's a nonsense myth, though. Loads of blonde people have naturally darker eyebrows, such as myself. Never bleached my hair in my life. So I, uh, see no reason why it couldn't work the same for Targaryen silvery-gold / platinum hair.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 03 Jul 2014, 10:43
Is it that hard to dye eyebrows?

I want to know if it's that hard to get purple contacts.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 03 Jul 2014, 11:14
Is it that hard to dye eyebrows?

It could irritate the skin if done wrong, but it's more that the upkeep is a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jul 2014, 14:22
Is it that hard to dye eyebrows?

I want to know if it's that hard to get purple contacts.
Probably not, although they might be pricier than more "standard" colors.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Jul 2014, 18:06
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jul 2014, 19:19
The second five are much better than the first.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 06 Jul 2014, 19:22
The first five are good, but the second five are pure awesome. Especially the last three.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jul 2014, 19:24
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Always going on about climate change
Easily my favorite line.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 Jul 2014, 06:06
I'm not familiar enough with US politics to recognize all of them, but those I did were funny. Who's the guy Tyrion placed with?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 07 Jul 2014, 10:06
That's Stephen Colbert, the guy who'll take over The Late Show after David Letterman.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jul 2014, 17:20
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jul 2014, 20:40
Dr. Bashir as the Prince of Dorne! And more! Also, I know they're aging the character but I'm so used to Myrcella being nine (although since Tommen's older now and Myrcella's older than Tommen, I guess they had to).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 Jul 2014, 20:41
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jul 2014, 20:50
LANNISTER DANCE PARTY
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: idontunderstand on 27 Jul 2014, 00:43
Peter Dinklage seems like such a likable guy.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 27 Jul 2014, 01:35
Dr. Bashir as the Prince of Dorne! And more! Also, I know they're aging the character but I'm so used to Myrcella being nine (although since Tommen's older now and Myrcella's older than Tommen, I guess they had to).
YESSSS! Bashir was one of my favourite Characters in DS9, I love seeing him again.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 27 Jul 2014, 10:00
Just watched a programme where someone got a last minute reprieve from a death sentence. Felt a bit disappointed. Clearly everything is now judged against the GoT standard.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jul 2014, 20:40
...the show where literally that happened in the most recent episode? :roll:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 28 Jul 2014, 22:58
Ah well yes, if you're going to put it like that. I was disappointed that the last minute reprieve was granted by an elected authority rather than being
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2015, 05:26
Anyone watch season 5 yet? Anyone somehow travel into the future and see more episodes?

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Apr 2015, 06:56
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2015, 10:59
Bah, now I have to wait almost a month for new episodes.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2015, 09:40
http://imgur.com/a/pwHyG from this week's episode.

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Post by: ChaoSera on 28 Apr 2015, 09:44
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They are. And I must say, it's beginning to bother me.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2015, 09:48
Part of it really bothers me...but part of me likes the idea that I'll be able to be completely surprised. That being said...

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Apr 2015, 10:15
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 28 Apr 2015, 10:25
People really need to stop making these 4-parted gifs. Just make one gif that shows it all, damnit.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schmee on 28 Apr 2015, 18:48
It's because Tumblr only allows gifs 2MB or smaller, I think.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 28 Apr 2015, 21:10
Margaery used shade.
It's super effective!

So, spoiler-wise....
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Apr 2015, 21:42
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Post by: Torlek on 29 Apr 2015, 18:22
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 May 2015, 06:27
Anyone been playing the Telltale game? I'm on episode 3.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 May 2015, 19:10
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Post by: Torlek on 10 May 2015, 22:11
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Post by: Lines on 11 May 2015, 04:41
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Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 May 2015, 05:06
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 07:02
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Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 May 2015, 08:37
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 11 May 2015, 09:40
Oh OK. Got characters confused. I need to reread the books. Is been a while. I'll do that after I finish the book I'm currently reading.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 13:34
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 May 2015, 14:55
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I was talking about the book in that post. You can tell because the note on the spoiler button says "Book stuff!" =P
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 21:38
Ahhh, I thought you were saying that's why he didn't show up in the show, because they decided that happened off screen. (And using book stuff to make your point)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 May 2015, 22:06
Ahhh, I thought you were saying that's why he didn't show up in the show, because they decided that happened off screen. (And using book stuff to make your point)
So... precisely the opposite of what I was actually doing, using his lack of show appearance as possible speculation fodder for what may happen in the next book.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 22:13
Yep. My bad. I really hope you're wrong, though. I'm interpreting the show change to mean only that they wanted to change it, like all the other changes.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 13 May 2015, 10:26
You know, at first I wasn't a big fan of Stannis. After the most recent episodes, I came around.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 13 May 2015, 11:38
Yeah, I like the Tin Man. (Trivia: Stannis is Latin for tin, and where the Sn abbreviation on the periodic table of the elements comes from.)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 13 May 2015, 12:27
S5 E4 Stannis is the Mannis
Game of Feels
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 13 May 2015, 18:59
In the game of feels you win, or you cry?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 15 May 2015, 21:01
S5 E4 Stannis is the Mannis
Game of Feels

Spoiler 5-5

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 18 May 2015, 11:49
Honestly, I think we are rapidly approaching the point where this becomes a completely different story than the books.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 18 May 2015, 13:14
Which I don't mind. I just hope I get to read the books and still think they're better.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 May 2015, 14:26
Honestly, I think we are rapidly approaching the point where this becomes a completely different story than the books.
I'd say episode 4 is when we irrevocably crossed that point but it's been heading there all season.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 May 2015, 15:46
After last nights episode the Mary Sue will no longer be promoting Game of Thrones (http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 May 2015, 16:42
Man, fuck GRRM for not wanting people to talk about the show on his site.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Neko_Ali on 18 May 2015, 17:00
I dunno. It seems he doesn't have a lot of creative control over changes they make for the TV show. I'd probably get sick of people talking about a show I have no control over on my writing blog too...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 May 2015, 17:06
The show's probably the reason most of them read his books in the first place, though.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 May 2015, 10:04
Maybe it's just me, but this season hasn't been as good.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: ChaoSera on 19 May 2015, 12:02
I agree.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 May 2015, 13:50
It doesn't seem to be going anywhere in particular.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: BenRG on 20 May 2015, 02:01
I dunno. It seems he doesn't have a lot of creative control over changes they make for the TV show. I'd probably get sick of people talking about a show I have no control over on my writing blog too...

FWIW, Wikipedia lists him as an executive producer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones). In real world terms, that probably just means that Mr Martin has to have lunch with people that he doesn't know several times a month. However, it does mean that he has to at least sign off on some stuff. So, he can't disclaim all responsibility for the end product.

So... Has the show jumped the shark?

Full Disclosure: I don't watch the show. I read the first two books and hated them enough that I couldn't reach the end of the second and will never read Martin's misanthropic works again. However, I would be genuinely interested to know what fans of the story (both incarnations, because I get the impression that they are diverging) think about where the show is going.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 May 2015, 04:34
The second book's took to get through, but book three makes it worth it...is what I would say if you didn't hate book one as well. Dang.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 20 May 2015, 10:36
What. Books 1-3 were good (3 is best) but book 4 is a nightmare. But if you don't like the first book, then there's no point reading them all. Especially if we're uncertain the series will ever actually end...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 May 2015, 13:59
I'd say book five makes book four worth finishing.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 20 May 2015, 20:27
Most of book 4, IMO, didn't warrant splitting the book in two parts...
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 21 May 2015, 14:24
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: maxusy3k on 25 May 2015, 13:10
Fuck this show.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 25 May 2015, 13:29
Any reason in particular from this recent episode?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Akima on 25 May 2015, 21:44
Man, fuck GRRM for not wanting people to talk about the show on his site.
Yeah, heaven forbid that someone might feel that they should have some control over the web-site they own and pay for, or that an author might want to use if for discussion of his work, rather than someone else's. I mean, how entitled can you get! :roll:

I read the first book. I think Romance of the Three Kingdoms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms) is better.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 May 2015, 22:19
Ok, fair enough :roll:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: maxusy3k on 26 May 2015, 00:34
Any reason in particular from this recent episode?

I haven't read the books at all so I have no issue with the fact they're going "off script" or whatever, unlike a lot of people I know, but this week was the final straw because;

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 26 May 2015, 05:09
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 26 May 2015, 05:41
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schwungrad on 26 May 2015, 05:50
The last episode (5.7) felt to me a bit like
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 27 May 2015, 06:32
http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no-longer-be-promoting-hbos-game-of-thrones/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schwungrad on 27 May 2015, 10:23
The opposite viewpoint:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/all-hopefully-of-the-bad-arguments-about-rape-on-game-of-thrones-debunked/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 27 May 2015, 17:08
That webpage (for whatever reason) about killed my laptop, but the Rawstory link was a good read. I have read the TMS one, but I'm kind of not a fan of their site.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 May 2015, 21:13
Another (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/05/19/game-of-thrones-has-always-been-a-show-about-rape) good article about the matter (I don't think it's been posted yet).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 29 May 2015, 04:32
Just a funny meme about last episode. I put in spoilers to protect those who have not caught up but wish to.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 May 2015, 04:42
Haha, priceless.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 29 May 2015, 07:33
So because the show is going into now unknown territory I started looking at theories.  I highly recommned going on youtube and looking up Alt Shift X (https://www.youtube.com/user/JaiWbio/videos).  He addresses a lot of the fan theories about the story and both shows evidence that it can be possible and evidence why it cannot.  Some pretty good stuff there.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 29 May 2015, 08:17
Just a funny meme about last episode. I put in spoilers to protect those who have not caught up but wish to.
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Yet, anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2015, 18:40
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Easily the best episode of the season, wow.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 31 May 2015, 19:45
I'd say best to date...  :-o

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2015, 19:48
It's definitely a strong contender. It advanced the stories of so many characters, but it never felt overstuffed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 31 May 2015, 19:51
Also another funny meme about tonight's episode!
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2015, 20:02
Hahahaha, YES, I was hoping someone would make that, I thought the same thing when I saw him raise his arms.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 31 May 2015, 20:20
I've also seen Snow instead of Crow  :-D
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2015, 20:26
Ahh yeah, my first thought was Snow, heh. Crow didn't occur to me until I saw this.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 Jun 2015, 15:12
"Look Jon Snow, look at all the fucks I don't give"
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jun 2015, 19:48
"Thanks for the soldiers, Jon!"
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: explicit on 02 Jun 2015, 20:52
Out of curiosity, how many important people died this season?

I can't think of any, this is not the GoT I know.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 02 Jun 2015, 20:54
Out of curiosity, how many important people died this season?

I can't think of any, this is not the GoT I know.

Give it a moment, still 2 episodes left and I am pretty sure I know of someone who will die by the end of the season.

Be warned, don't open the spoiler if you can't handle it!
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Jun 2015, 21:00
Well...maybe.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schwungrad on 03 Jun 2015, 04:28
Out of curiosity, how many important people died this season?

I can't think of any, this is not the GoT I know.
Mance Rayder and Barristan Selmy seem to be men of no importance to you. Even though one was King Beyond the Wall, and the other was Kingsguard to 4 (?) kings and one queen
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 03 Jun 2015, 04:36
Well...maybe.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jun 2015, 04:39
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 03 Jun 2015, 04:53
Out of curiosity, how many important people died this season?

I can't think of any, this is not the GoT I know.

Maester Aemon not important enough for you?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 05 Jun 2015, 06:58
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 05 Jun 2015, 19:03
That image is just perfect. I lol'd.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2015, 19:04
God damn it, Stannis.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 07 Jun 2015, 19:37
Tonight's episode:
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God damn it, Stannis.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2015, 20:08
Honestly, as soon as he sent away Davos I was worried that might happen :/
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 07 Jun 2015, 23:59
Gods help you, Stannis Baratheon. Now you are truly lost.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 08 Jun 2015, 05:17
Stannis, now is not the time for your shenanigans...
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2015, 09:26
Anyone hoping Davos and Brienne team up?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 08 Jun 2015, 09:39
Anyone hoping Davos and Brienne team up?

I'm hoping they become apart of Dany's crew.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 Jun 2015, 06:21
I saw an interesting fan theory about the show that I wanted to run by some book readers.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Jun 2015, 09:00
I saw an interesting fan theory about the show that I wanted to run by some book readers.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 Jun 2015, 10:14
I saw an interesting fan theory about the show that I wanted to run by some book readers.

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I am thinking she doesn't die but
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2015, 15:58
A non-undead Lady Stoneheart makes no sense at all.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 09 Jun 2015, 20:18
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jun 2015, 19:56

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 13 Jun 2015, 17:07

I had explained the same thing to Dr. Soon-to-be-Wifey.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 13 Jun 2015, 17:58
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Jun 2015, 19:01
I absolutely refuse to believe that until I see it in the books. Just because GRRM is sharing Winds of Winter/Dream for Spring info with the showrunners doesn't mean the divergences are based on that.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 14 Jun 2015, 12:53
I think that showrunners will stick to the major plot points that are important to the ending and then they're going to do whatever they want for the flavor and inbetween storylines. So from my perspective, whatever doesn't make it in is not relevant to the endgame, regardless of how awesome it is in the books. Some of that kind of sucks, because characters and side stories get left out (some of which I'm not sad about, though), but the important things are going to be there.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2015, 17:18
I have to tell myself that the end of the show could be somewhat different from the end of the books, because that way the books aren't spoiled.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 14 Jun 2015, 20:50
What do we say to the god of death?

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2015, 21:10
Was anyone else really hoping them showing the flashback to Syrio that we'd find out that Jaqen was Syrio? That being said, I'm not complaining with what happened. Great ending. I'm actually pretty surprised they didn't change Daenerys's end.

Edit: Oh yeah.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 Jun 2015, 12:40
I guess the other brothers of the Night's Watch didn't like watching Pompeii on movie night
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 15 Jun 2015, 13:36
I don't think you can conjure up spoilers for the books by looking at what stuff makes it and what doesn't make it to the show. I'd say it's more likely that they're straight up diverging the plot lines, sort of like they did with the original Fullmetal Alchemist anime (probably to a lesser extent tho).
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Lines on 15 Jun 2015, 15:51
Well after I read an interview with a certain cast member not coming back next season, I certainly hope so.  :x :x :x

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2015, 17:35
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Re: That cast member, they might be lying? I hope so.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jun 2015, 18:55
not to mention
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Schwungrad on 16 Jun 2015, 04:23
Another possibility is
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2015, 05:02
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 16 Jun 2015, 08:29
Up until now,
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That's a lot of doors left wide open.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 16 Jun 2015, 08:37
Up until now,
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That's a lot of doors left wide open.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2015, 09:19
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 16 Jun 2015, 09:29
Up until now,
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That's a lot of doors left wide open.

So here's some show/book spoilers, some of it based off interviews.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2015, 17:10
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2015, 17:27
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2015, 17:40
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2015, 17:42
Ehhh, she tried, but there are probably a bunch she missed.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: explicit on 17 Jun 2015, 00:22
So, finished all that. That finale sucked and I don't just mean that because of the "GoT" death moments. Da fuck.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 17 Jun 2015, 08:56
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 17 Jun 2015, 14:59
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Is this some kind of drunk interview I don't know about or is that fancy bottled water that John Bradley is drinking.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2015, 15:00
I should be Samwell Tarly for Halloween. Or Baymax. I haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 Jun 2015, 19:19
You know you wanna do this
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2015, 21:51
Heh, I do that already.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: explicit on 18 Jun 2015, 23:21
Every handshake is awkward forever.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: BenRG on 19 Jun 2015, 03:10
So... Exactly how are they going to handle season 6? Has GRRM given them an early draft of the next book to use as the basis of the scripts?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 19 Jun 2015, 03:17
They could knock out a season of abandoned storylines and infill.

But right now I'm hoping that HBO will put out a statement saying that the series is on hiatus for a year or that GRRM anounces that he's gone off the books now and is going to write a book of poetry about his favourite zoo animals. No because I want it to be true but because I reckon that might actually end the internet and I can stop wasting my life looking at pictures of cats and arguing with strangers.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: BenRG on 19 Jun 2015, 03:19
 :lol: :lol: :lol: Damn it! This forum needs a 'Like' button! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 04:32
But right now I'm hoping that HBO will put out a statement saying that the series is on hiatus for a year or that GRRM anounces that he's gone off the books now and is going to write a book of poetry about his favourite zoo animals.
You're a bad person.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 19 Jun 2015, 06:19
Heh

Please don't use "heh" as your laugh in this thread... :-(
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 07:31
I'm missing something.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Edguy on 19 Jun 2015, 07:48
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 19 Jun 2015, 07:52
I stumbled upon a theory about the parentage about a certain character in Game of Thrones
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It is an interesting theory to say the least.  It has its points and GRRM likes to mess with us.  I am not going to necessarily say I buy into this theory but if it turns out to be true, I would not be surprised.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 08:52
Holy shit, that would be...interesting.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 19 Jun 2015, 09:16
It would also explain why Jon Arryn said "the seed is strong" when he dies.  Being that Gendry would be noble birth on both sides of his family and in wed lock, therefore legitimate and not a bastard.  If he figured it all out that is.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 09:17
It refers to all his bastards, really.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 19 Jun 2015, 09:19
It refers to all his bastards, really.

in comparison to all his "legitimate" children with Cersi, I agree.  :laugh:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 09:32
Right. And I really like that theory. It'd give him as good a claim as Jon, if not better.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 19 Jun 2015, 12:16
I'm missing something.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2015, 13:16
I'm a-Freyd that slipped my mind somehow.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 21 Jun 2015, 06:03
I'm a-Freyd that slipped my mind somehow.

Wald-a terrible pun.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Jun 2015, 10:25
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Post by: 94ssd on 21 Jun 2015, 17:14
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Also this:

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 28 Aug 2015, 16:13
Recent fan theory for next season:
Jon Snow has a twin.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 23 Nov 2015, 10:11
HBO's GoT facebook page:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 12:18
Dang, HBO, kinda spoilery.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 05 Apr 2016, 11:28
Just wanted to post this little gem without someone in the pointless thread yelling at me.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: 94ssd on 05 Apr 2016, 20:18
Hoping that Lord Too-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse is in Season 6. He's my favorite book character that hasn't made an appearance on screen yet.

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Post by: LeeC on 08 Apr 2016, 04:31
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Post by: LeeC on 24 Apr 2016, 19:20
Spoiler!
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Apr 2016, 20:26
Ok, so I may be remembering her wrong (and I'll look the actresses tomorrow, really tired now), but is there a chance that Melisandre was the witch that Cersei went to as a kid and got her prophecy?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 01 May 2016, 19:36
Tonight's episode:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2016, 20:08
Ok, so I may be remembering her wrong (and I'll look the actresses tomorrow, really tired now), but is there a chance that Melisandre was the witch that Cersei went to as a kid and got her prophecy?
Btw, I was way off, I looked up that scene and that witch was a young woman.

Also tonight: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Well, no, not really, everyone saw it coming.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2016, 04:05
Casting news made it less of a surprise, but yay Kingsmoot! Much later than I thought it'd be.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 09 May 2016, 10:13
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Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2016, 20:31
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Post by: LeeC on 10 May 2016, 05:01
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Post by: 94ssd on 10 May 2016, 09:00
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 13 May 2016, 09:56
Breakdown of the Arthur Dayne fight:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 May 2016, 07:13
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 May 2016, 19:03
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Post by: LeeC on 15 May 2016, 20:13
Tonight's episode:
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 May 2016, 12:46
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 May 2016, 18:33
Map of Westeros in the form of google maps
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 22 May 2016, 19:22
Tonight's episode:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 May 2016, 20:13
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Post by: dexeron on 23 May 2016, 06:24
Lol, that article is great.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 May 2016, 06:36
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Post by: Yayniall on 23 May 2016, 15:06
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 24 May 2016, 00:40
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 24 May 2016, 04:37
Kinda not a spoiler but putting it in tags anyway. I totally ship these two:

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2016, 08:12
We all do.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 24 May 2016, 15:27
Just finished the new episode and I came pretty close to crying
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 24 May 2016, 15:40
Just finished the new episode and I came pretty close to crying

My wife did.  The next day we watched a review/recap video..and she did again.  :cry:
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 27 May 2016, 04:49
I just ralized: Jorah Is going to Quaithe for advice about his greyscale! Remember when he met her alone, one of the things she told him was "this man will travel through Old Valyria, he will need protection", while she was drawing an elabotare painting on this guy's back.
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Post by: LeeC on 27 May 2016, 04:59
Alt Shift X mentions that Jorah might take the place of Vicarian and have his greyscale arm healed by a red priestess (though it ends up looking bloody and gross or something along those lines).  So you may be onto something zmeiat_joro
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 27 May 2016, 08:26
I'll watch this later, I have some stuff to do but my theory goes like this:

Quainthe was painting some person's back during her conversation with Jorah and she said something like "he is going to Old Valyria, he needs protection". Jorah got his greyscale in Old Valyria. In the same conversation she asked him  "Will you betreay her (Daenerys) again".

In the last episode, Daenerys finally forgave him, but told him to look for a cure for the greyscale.

Jorah contacted greyscale while he was taking Tyrion to Daenerys, through Old Valyria, hoping that would placate her.

Tyrion just made a deal with the slaveholding cities, in Daenerys' absence to abolish gradually slavery in 7 years.

Quainthe is in Qarth, one of the slaveholding cities in Slavers' Bay. (it is, right?)

I think this will be a plotline in the second half of this season.
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 28 May 2016, 05:29
BTW, I'm seeing in a lot of places where people discuss Hodor as him being not very intelligent. Is this a book thing, from the POV of other charaters, and they think that because of his aphasia? He seems at least of average if not above average intelligence to me on the show.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 May 2016, 09:28
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 May 2016, 18:37
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 29 May 2016, 20:37
A theory I have...

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Post by: TheEvilDog on 29 May 2016, 20:49
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 03 Jun 2016, 04:35
an interesting take on the conversation between Jaqen and Waif from the most recent episode:
http://imgur.com/gallery/nGBxF (http://imgur.com/gallery/nGBxF)
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Post by: Torlek on 03 Jun 2016, 20:38
Or it could just as easily be that Jaqen speaks like a Lorathi while the Waif speaks like a Westerosi (or Braavosi/Pentoshi) and Arya just assumed that Jaqen's speech pattern is the way Faceless Men speak. No Stark would ever be as lucky as that interpretation suggests.
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Post by: Edguy on 03 Jun 2016, 22:01
Quote from: zmeiat_joro
Quainthe is in Qarth, one of the slaveholding cities in Slavers' Bay. (it is, right?)

I think this will be a plotline in the second half of this season.

Qarth is furter east of Slaver's Bay, at the end of the known world.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 04 Jun 2016, 11:15
Depends on how you define "known". People, even in Westeros, know stories about Asshai, Yi Ti and the Jogos Nhai and all are further East than Qarth. Melissandre and Quaithe have both been to Asshai and Daenerys saw merchants from the other two in the market in Vaes Dothrak. Qarth is just the farthest East that has been depicted in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jun 2016, 19:03
Apparently it's official now that not only are there just two seasons left, but they're short seasons with a total of 13 episodes (like Breaking Bad and Mad Men did, even if they both lied and called the last two seasons one season). I'm...really disappointed. Part of me is excited to see how it ends, but I think they could have easily had a solid ten full seasons.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jun 2016, 18:54
This week was great, but the next week on made me even more excited about next week's.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Torlek on 05 Jun 2016, 19:18
but I think they could have easily had a solid ten full seasons.

To do that they would have had to stretch out the Dorne, Iron Islands and Vale plots (as well as probably needed to take a full season of Tyrion on the Rhoyne and in Volantis). Given how much the fanbase likes to fuss and complain about said plot threads I doubt that would've worked.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jun 2016, 19:36
Really? I don't think so, there's still plenty to do, and Daenerys probably won't even leave Essos this year.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2016, 05:13
Is it just me, or is ten*-year old Lyanna Mormont the most competent and just lord we've seen in the entire show? Not even in an obnoxious precocious way, she was fiercely protective of her people but listened to reason. (It helped that she probably reminded Davos of Shireen, who he had great love and respect for, and he made his case with reason and not a single bit of condescension). But yeah, Jorah abandoning Bear Island is probably the best thing he could have done, since it ended up in better hands.

*not sure of her age, she's young
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 06 Jun 2016, 05:31
Tywin wasn't a competent Lord?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2016, 12:58
Yeah, fair point. Either way, the kid they got to play her was great.
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Jun 2016, 18:33
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Regarding Aria,
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Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2016, 18:44
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Jun 2016, 04:22
Well that episode was interesting, but kind of disappointing. Cleganebowl and Lady Stoneheart are pretty much guaranteed to not happen now.

Edit: [book stuffs]That being said, Varys leaving Meereen means he could be going to King's Landing, which could mean AEGON.
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 13 Jun 2016, 05:27
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jun 2016, 08:33
Still waiting for that boat to come in...
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 15 Jun 2016, 13:33
Who knows? We might find him in Braavos with Aria before seasons end. Hell, if
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2016, 19:39
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 19 Jun 2016, 19:40
Tonight's episode. Holy hell.

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Post by: Detachable Felix on 20 Jun 2016, 04:54
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2016, 13:34
How great was that scene with Dany/Asha*? First time I've been outright glad they brought the Greyjoys back.

*I won't call her Yara. Fuck that noise.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2016, 18:07
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Jun 2016, 05:07
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Post by: 94ssd on 21 Jun 2016, 16:37
How great was that scene with Dany/Asha*? First time I've been outright glad they brought the Greyjoys back.

*I won't call her Yara. Fuck that noise.

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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Jun 2016, 21:57
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 Jun 2016, 17:38
Finally caught up

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 23 Jun 2016, 18:56
This sooo much!  :parrot:
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Post by: Torlek on 26 Jun 2016, 19:26
Fair warning, the actual content is going to be nothing but spoilers....but.....WHAT A FINALE....

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I honestly didn't think they would go in the direction they did. BUT DAMN!!!!!!
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Post by: LeeC on 26 Jun 2016, 19:31
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Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2016, 19:53
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Post by: 94ssd on 26 Jun 2016, 20:11
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Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jun 2016, 20:29
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 27 Jun 2016, 02:15
Hooooly shit.

So many thoughts.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 27 Jun 2016, 04:24
Felix:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: BenRG on 27 Jun 2016, 04:27
I've got the feeling that the ice zombies are going to come marching southwards and find themselves occupying a land where all the humans have long since killed eachother down to a handful of stragglers.
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Post by: explicit on 27 Jun 2016, 07:42
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Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jun 2016, 09:17
Travel is a free action apparently.
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Post by: 94ssd on 27 Jun 2016, 11:55
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I'm going to unspoiler this first thing because it's useful to keep in mind for anyone watching the series.

Quote from: "A Note on Chronology" from the beginning of A Storm of Swords
A Song of Ice and Fire is told through the eyes of characters who are sometimes hundreds or even thousands of miles apart from one another. Some chapters cover a day, some only an hour; others might span a fortnight, a month, half a year. With such a structure, the narrative cannot be strictly sequential; sometimes important things are happening simultaneously, a thousand leagues apart.

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Post by: explicit on 27 Jun 2016, 13:38
That was a good explanation, thanks. That scene messed with me.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 27 Jun 2016, 13:44
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 27 Jun 2016, 17:15
Cersi forgot something Robert told her....
http://imgur.com/a/seLdO (http://imgur.com/a/seLdO)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jun 2016, 18:24
Holy shit, I'd completely forgotten about that.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Jun 2016, 15:06
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Post by: Kugai on 28 Jun 2016, 17:34
Cersi forgot something Robert told her....
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Cersei's words were true enough when she said that six years ago, but after six years of almost constant warfare, how decimiated are the Armies of the South?  How many troops have been lost? Houses obliterated since then?

And the North isn't going to be in Cersei's corner. 
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Jun 2016, 19:18
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Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jun 2016, 21:23
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Post by: J on 29 Jun 2016, 02:30
Tonight's episode. Holy hell.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: J on 29 Jun 2016, 02:32
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also, i was really hoping we could see Sean Bean come back for a flashback or two this season. :(
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Post by: LeeC on 29 Jun 2016, 04:15
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2016, 11:02
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Post by: LeeC on 11 Mar 2017, 07:16
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Post by: Kugai on 11 Mar 2017, 18:00
Winter has come
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Post by: ryangoslink on 13 Mar 2017, 07:07
Too many spoilers!
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2017, 18:08
Yeah, I think I'll just wait until the actual show.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 30 Mar 2017, 12:35
New Promo trailer,
I'm pretty sure Dany is at Dragonstone
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Post by: LeeC on 24 May 2017, 11:03
Dat trailer though...
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Post by: Kugai on 24 May 2017, 17:22
Barfight!!!
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Post by: LeeC on 25 May 2017, 10:30
Bogan breakdown of the trailer
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Post by: Kugai on 25 May 2017, 17:44
*Burp*


More Chicken

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jul 2017, 19:46
It was a solid first episode. Briefly touching on all the important characters. Aria killed it this episode, and I am most interested in Jon and Sansa's story as they need to work together. Christ man.  They're both being bone-headed.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 17 Jul 2017, 03:18

From the very beginning Aria has been my favourite character...

... that trend seems to be continuing! 
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Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jul 2017, 21:11
So that dude who weirdly resembled Ed Sheeran was just Ed Sheeran.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 Jul 2017, 02:53
So that dude who weirdly resembled Ed Sheeran was just Ed Sheeran.

I HATED that bit...

The whole scene seemed wooden and utterly contrived. (Although Maisie saved it :) )
It's like the sudden "guest-appearances-by-my-show-biz-mates" that seem to have become the mainstay of Dr Who... and put me right off watching it.

Surely directors etc are aware of breaking viewers' immersion??
Even before you SAW the dude it was obvious who was singing, and I was like... "PLEASE, no!" Annnd then it was...  :(
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Post by: LeeC on 18 Jul 2017, 04:46
Apparently it was done by the directors as a surprise for Maise. The scene was important but really you could have had anyone do it.  It did break my immersion.  My question was, who is the guy that wants his baby to be a girl?  He looks very familiar but I just cannot place him from where.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 Jul 2017, 07:01
Apparently it was done by the directors as a surprise for Maise. The scene was important but really you could have had anyone do it.  It did break my immersion.  My question was, who is the guy that wants his baby to be a girl?  He looks very familiar but I just cannot place him from where.

Apparently the drummer from Coldplay has also had a cameo...

... but that's okay, cos no-one knows what he looks like!  :)
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Post by: LeeC on 18 Jul 2017, 08:32
Found the actor I was talking about.  It is Billy Postlewaite (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5037475/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t37).  Son of Pete Postlewaite (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000592/?ref_=nm_dyk_trv1)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 Jul 2017, 17:41
So that dude who weirdly resembled Ed Sheeran was just Ed Sheeran.

I immediately said to myself, "Wait, is that Ed Sheeran?" and then hoped he would die
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Post by: LeeC on 23 Jul 2017, 19:37
Interesting episode.  Not the greatest and my wife was not very happy with it but it was important.

Episode 1 of this season was to remind everyone of where the key players are and what their motivations for this season are going to be.  Episode 2 was to get things in motion to get to those goals for the end of the season.

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Jul 2017, 16:31
Sometimes the changes from the book work. Sometimes they don't. Without giving any details of book or show, I'll just say the changes they made to Euron very much work.

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Post by: LeeC on 30 Jul 2017, 19:30
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Great episode. Whenever the good guys get too comfortable, fuck 'em up!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Jul 2017, 16:25
Came up with this earlier today, maybe would've been more relevant last week when Archmaester Butterman told him not to try the cure.

Archmaester: Archmaester Pylos was an exceptional maester, truly exceptional. And he had something you haven't.
Sam: What’s that?
Archmaester: A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD!
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Post by: LeeC on 01 Aug 2017, 04:51
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Aug 2017, 18:01
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 04 Aug 2017, 02:09
[tweet]893133176633249793[/tweet]

I suppose you could also label that....


"TFW: you're sleeping with the lady of a dude from work who you hate!"
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Post by: LeeC on 06 Aug 2017, 19:14
Episode 4 of Season 7:  :psyduck:

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2017, 20:42
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Aug 2017, 13:29
Weirdly out of character behavior from Sam interrupts one of the biggest reveals the show’s done.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 15 Aug 2017, 02:45
Weirdly out of character behavior from Sam interrupts one of the biggest reveals the show’s done.

Not sure what you are meaning.... could you "Spoiler" a bit more??

Personally - I was thinking...
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Aug 2017, 11:18
He interrupted Gilly while she was confirming that:
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JoeCovenant on 16 Aug 2017, 02:51

I must have switched off at that bit!
Interesting...

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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Aug 2017, 07:48
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: LeeC on 27 Aug 2017, 19:51
Well tonight really dropped a lot on us!

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Post by: Torlek on 27 Aug 2017, 20:50
I appreciate why they moved at a fast pace this season, but tonight really reminded me how amazing the talky, slow-burn scenes can be.

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Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Aug 2017, 04:08
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Aug 2017, 13:44
Me during the finale
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 29 Aug 2017, 03:17
Me during the finale
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Now...
No spoilers required...
When is the final season due to air? Anyone know?
Last I remember seeing is that they were filming 7&8 back to back? And are just spreading it out for "reasons"...?
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheEvilDog on 29 Aug 2017, 04:25
From what I have heard, the last season is going to air late 2018 or early 2019.

So they'll be milking the series that bit longer.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 29 Aug 2017, 05:04
From what I have heard, the last season is going to air late 2018 or early 2019.

So they'll be milking the series that bit longer.
Yeeaaahhh I'd heard that rumour, and my initial thought was.. "NO FECKING WAY!!"

  :cry:
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheEvilDog on 29 Aug 2017, 05:39
Production dates have been listed as starting in October this year and ending early to mid 2018. So there goes the theory that they did back to back production.

But its more a security precaution as well. This season saw a couple of episodes leaked, so it might be a case of them leaving production close to the chest, so to speak.
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Post by: LeeC on 29 Aug 2017, 07:38
Winter has come in the show, so it only makes sense that production will have to take place later in the year.


also:
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Post by: LeeC on 17 Apr 2019, 07:45
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Post by: Theta9 on 17 Apr 2019, 12:38
"The series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and the intention is for each novel ... to fuel a season's worth of episodes. Martin has nearly finished the fifth installment, but won't complete the seven-book cycle until 2011."
I still haven't started reading the series yet, but it's my understanding that the final volume is still unreleased because Martin has been writing prequels and side stories instead. Isn't that how Jordan died with the Wheel of Time left unfinished?
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Post by: Cornelius on 17 Apr 2019, 13:16
I've heard rumors, as yet unsubstantiated, that he might actually be planning on leaving it unfinished.
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Post by: LeeC on 17 Apr 2019, 14:00

George Lucas visited the set and gave some notes and had fun during the filming of scenes for Season 8 episode 1!
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Post by: Theta9 on 17 Apr 2019, 16:07
I've heard rumors, as yet unsubstantiated, that he might actually be planning on leaving it unfinished.
Ah. Well fuck him then. If he doesn't care enough to finish the story, why should I bother to read it?
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Post by: Cornelius on 17 Apr 2019, 22:37
Well, there's no definite source I can give or find for it - as I said, is a rumour. It says that the idea of an unfinished magnum opus rather appeals to him. Besides, the publisher is not exactly pleased by his stated plan to have the two final books be 1500 pages each. Any other author, that kind of manuscript would be flatly refused, or simply published piecemeal. Personally, I'm not impressed by that either. Sure, it's a large effort, but it also hints at a lack of focus.
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Post by: Theta9 on 18 Apr 2019, 07:32
Well, there's no definite source I can give or find for it - as I said, is a rumour. It says that the idea of an unfinished magnum opus rather appeals to him. Besides, the publisher is not exactly pleased by his stated plan to have the two final books be 1500 pages each. Any other author, that kind of manuscript would be flatly refused, or simply published piecemeal. Personally, I'm not impressed by that either. Sure, it's a large effort, but it also hints at a lack of focus.
Perhaps the story will kind of disappointingly fizzle out in the final volumes, like King's Dark Tower epic.
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Post by: Torlek on 18 Apr 2019, 09:16
Sure, it's a large effort, but it also hints at a lack of focus.

That's pretty much GRRM in a nutshell, full of great ideas but can't focus worth a damn. Also, he's great at worldbuliding but can't move a narrative. At the rate things are going I'm expecting him to keep scribbling manuscript pages until he dies, then after a couple of years the publisher will hire Brandon Sanderson and both the 1700 page monsters will be out within a year.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 18 Apr 2019, 09:30
Personally, I'm wondering if he is constantly changing the narrative as he won;t won;t it to be a straight reflection of whatever the TV series decides to have as an ending...

(And I'm also wondering if they could sue if he DID copy their ending.... I dunno.. America is weird!!)

Has this ever happened before?
A TV series being concluded by going beyond where the actual book series has gotten to?
I know The Walking Dead have veered from the comics at times, but the basuic narrative is the same isn;t it?

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Post by: Theta9 on 18 Apr 2019, 12:40
Has this ever happened before?
A TV series being concluded by going beyond where the actual book series has gotten to?
I know The Walking Dead have veered from the comics at times, but the basuic narrative is the same isn;t it?
The Walking Dead is an ongoing comic book series with no end planned as yet, and the show was never a straight adaptation of the books.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Apr 2019, 08:45
I feel like I've seen this here before, but if not
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Post by: hedgie on 19 Apr 2019, 09:15
That is fucking amazing.
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Apr 2019, 19:33
Tonight was a good episode. Very wholesome...you know, before the axe drops next weekend.  :angel:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2019, 06:19
"The series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and the intention is for each novel ... to fuel a season's worth of episodes. Martin has nearly finished the fifth installment, but won't complete the seven-book cycle until 2011."
Wouldn't that have been nice? Hell, the fifth book itself that we was "nearly finished" with in 2007 came out in 2011.
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Post by: Theta9 on 22 Apr 2019, 06:55
"The series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and the intention is for each novel ... to fuel a season's worth of episodes. Martin has nearly finished the fifth installment, but won't complete the seven-book cycle until 2011."
Wouldn't that have been nice? Hell, the fifth book itself that we was "nearly finished" with in 2007 came out in 2011.
He's gonna die without finishing the story, just like Robert Jordan.
Thankfully I had better sense than to start reading The Wheel of Time.
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Post by: hedgie on 22 Apr 2019, 11:58
I basically quit reading Wheel of Time about halfway through.  The overall story seemed to get bogged down by an ever-growing Gordian knot of plot threads with none seeming like they'd never get resolved because, basically, Jordan wasn't a good enough writer to get himself out of that corner.  I suspect that the same is in play here (although I haven't read Martin's books).
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Post by: Cornelius on 24 Apr 2019, 01:19
Well, where he left off, it did start feeling that way to me. But not, I should say, to an extent that it's unsolvable in two books. In another series, I'm waiting for the next instalment, just to see how they're going to manage to pull together the different plot-and timelines. Similarly, it's several years overdue, now. But that writer gave herself only a single book to work it out - which seems ambitious.
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 24 Apr 2019, 12:04
So:
1) my birthday
2) Easter -- the Orthodox one (it's a week apart with the Catholic/Protestant one this year -- it's bigger than Christmas in Orthodox Christianity and although I'm ignostic it means big family gathering at my home town), and
3) the battle of Winterfell will be all on the same day.
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 24 Apr 2019, 13:18
It just occurred to me that maybe they deliberately aired the episode where nobody dies (rather than a normal episode, where someone usually dies) on Catholic/Protestant Easter. Because, you know. Otherwise it might fuel unwelcome speculation and/or upset some people.
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: Cornelius on 24 Apr 2019, 22:45
About bringing more people back, you mean?
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Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Apr 2019, 17:39
It would've been funny if the season six premiere aired on Easter.
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 28 Apr 2019, 17:27
It's a thing on facebook now, a picture of the Night King with a caption "Everything has risen". A reference to him raising the dead on Easter: "Christ has Risen". /:
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Apr 2019, 19:41
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 29 Apr 2019, 04:06
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Post by: cybersmurf on 29 Apr 2019, 22:48
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 30 Apr 2019, 02:21

So...

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Post by: hedgie on 30 Apr 2019, 14:05
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 May 2019, 07:47
I loved the episode but boy was that shit dark. Half the time you couldn't really see what's going on
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 01 May 2019, 08:29
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Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2019, 09:52
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 02 May 2019, 16:59
I was just wondering
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2019, 17:06
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Post by: hedgie on 02 May 2019, 17:14
I was just wondering
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Post by: zmeiat_joro on 02 May 2019, 18:24
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Post by: LeeC on 05 May 2019, 19:37
Well, looks like were back to plotting, back stabbing, and sucker punches to the audience.
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Post by: cybersmurf on 06 May 2019, 05:29
Well, looks like were back to plotting, back stabbing, and sucker punches to the audience.

Sometimes there's even sucker punching the audience by not sucker punching the audience.
And once Cersei is involved there's cold-blooded bitching, too.
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Post by: LeeC on 06 May 2019, 06:14
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Post by: cybersmurf on 06 May 2019, 07:34
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Post by: LeeC on 06 May 2019, 07:51
Wish this was some sort of gif bingo card. Crossing out the dead.
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Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 May 2019, 08:34
I haven't watched Game of Thrones, it doesn't interest me in the slightest, but I had to laugh when a friend of mine announced his theory as to the ending .

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Post by: LeeC on 12 May 2019, 19:33
Fire and Blood

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Post by: hedgie on 12 May 2019, 21:33
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Post by: cybersmurf on 13 May 2019, 23:56
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 14 May 2019, 03:55
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Post by: Cornelius on 14 May 2019, 05:43
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Post by: LeeC on 14 May 2019, 06:32
Wow...there is a lot of hate on the web for this episode. There are many who don't hate it but the hate is quite palpable and louder than the praise. I personally liked the episode. For a story about competing for the throne of westeros It needs to end and we're nearly there.

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Post by: cybersmurf on 14 May 2019, 10:46
Wow...there is a lot of hate on the web for this episode. There are many who don't hate it but the hate is quite palpable and louder than the praise. I personally liked the episode. For a story about competing for the throne of westeros It needs to end and we're nearly there.

The hate is largely from:
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 May 2019, 10:47
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 May 2019, 12:10
That observation means only one thing:
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Post by: cybersmurf on 14 May 2019, 14:32
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Post by: Torlek on 14 May 2019, 18:57
Wow...there is a lot of hate on the web for this episode. There are many who don't hate it but the hate is quite palpable and louder than the praise. I personally liked the episode. For a story about competing for the throne of westeros It needs to end and we're nearly there.

The hate is largely from:
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Post by: BenRG on 15 May 2019, 01:32
My prediction for the last episode:

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Post by: cybersmurf on 15 May 2019, 03:02
My prediction for the last episode:

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snipped the quoted spoiler section to the point I'm referring to.


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One possibility I'd consider somewhat funny:
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Post by: Cornelius on 15 May 2019, 04:04
One possibility I'd consider somewhat funny:
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Post by: dutchrvl on 15 May 2019, 04:56

One possibility I'd consider somewhat funny:
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 15 May 2019, 06:57
My prediction for the last episode:

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I mean no disrespect, Ben... but have you actually watched GOT?
Some of the things mentioned in your spoilers are impossible to occur for in show reasons.
And some have already happened.

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Post by: Cornelius on 16 May 2019, 01:35
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Well, here's another way:
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 17 May 2019, 05:28
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Well, here's another way:
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Post by: Cornelius on 17 May 2019, 08:08
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Post by: Cornelius on 17 May 2019, 22:54
Fan theories is what we do. It's much more fun than just waiting to see what happens.

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Post by: LeeC on 19 May 2019, 19:52
Well its all over. I know the internet is going to roast it because it wasn't what they expected or some other reason. I for one actually liked it.
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Post by: de_la_Nae on 19 May 2019, 20:05
Who knew the real Game of Thrones was the friends we made along the way
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Post by: BenRG on 20 May 2019, 00:07
Okay, I didn't see the episode by I've read a few post-game recaps so here's my thoughts:
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Post by: cybersmurf on 20 May 2019, 10:44
Okay, I didn't see the episode by I've read a few post-game recaps so here's my thoughts:
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 21 May 2019, 01:53
Okay, I didn't see the episode by I've read a few post-game recaps so here's my thoughts:
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But GRR Martin didn't write this.
ANd all the show runners had to work on where things he seemingly 'briefly discussed' at least 5 years ago.
His next book is still unfinished after 8 years... and there is still another to come after that (according to his own statements)

Personally, I doubt the books will end like the series.
(Or, may end similarly to the series... but with a far more satisfying qualified resolution)
Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: BenRG on 21 May 2019, 01:57
My opinion? After seeing the mixed response to seasons 7 and 8, G R R Martin may abandon writing the last books altogether. I understand that his fandom makes him more than a little uncomfortable and he may not be willing to invite this level of invective into his life any further.
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Post by: JoeCovenant on 21 May 2019, 02:01
All things being equal...

I think I can pretty much say "Called it!!"  :)
(Well... if you add bits together... :)  maybe 75% )

I can't honestly say I was *satisified* with the last season, I think they made a HUGE mistake condensing the last two series.
And the contradictions within some characters between those series stilted the ultimate conclusions.
For a series that often put spectacle before story telling, they sort of shot themselves in the foot with this one.

Series overall - 8/10
Last episode... a solid 5


Title: Re: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire
Post by: JoeCovenant on 21 May 2019, 02:05
My opinion? After seeing the mixed response to seasons 7 and 8, G R R Martin may abandon writing the last books altogether. I understand that his fandom makes him more than a little uncomfortable and he may not be willing to invite this level of invective into his life any further.

Iii dunno...
I would certainly find it hard to turn my back on something I'd already spent 8 years working on.
(Personally, it took me 5 years to get "The God of All Small Boys" published - but then, that was my first 'legitimately' published book, so maybe I had more impetus to continue working on it.)

To be frank, I probably wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out of the series... but then, I would imagine he'd be MIGHTILY sued by his publisher...
But on the whole, I think he's too invested in the characters to just stop.
I think his fans biggest fears are that he dies before he does.
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Post by: Cornelius on 21 May 2019, 02:57
Of course, the silent solution, if he's tired of it, and the publisher insists, is to hire a ghost writer to take what's there, and finish it. Not very attractive from an author's point of view, but it might pass without much notice with the fans.

Which might still happen posthumously, as well; it all depends on what rights the publisher has secured, really.
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Post by: cybersmurf on 21 May 2019, 07:33
Personally, I doubt the books will end like the series.
(Or, may end similarly to the series... but with a far more satisfying qualified resolution)

Isn't that confirmed? Like GRRM actually said the show took a different turn somewhere in season 3 and strayed from what he planned for the books?
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Post by: Cornelius on 21 May 2019, 08:51
The show did take a different direction. He did share the ending, and some of the key moments he had planned with the Showrunners, though, so it's not clear how far they are starting with this ending.

To come to this ending, there's a lot of development yet to take place in the books, though.
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It's quite possible that he comes to the same ending, if ever he finishes the books, but that it will be fleshed out, and less abrupt.
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 May 2019, 11:31
Okay, I freely admit that I never cared for the show or the books, but I had a quick look at the cliff notes and have a couple of questions.

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Post by: Cornelius on 21 May 2019, 11:51
Some part of the answer:

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In all fairness, I've read the books, but have seen the show only irregularly.
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 May 2019, 17:15
Fair enough, so glad to have another reason to be glad that I never watched it.  :psyduck:
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Post by: LeeC on 21 May 2019, 18:14
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Post by: de_la_Nae on 23 May 2019, 04:12
https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/status/1130581319593783296
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Post by: LeeC on 23 May 2019, 06:16
For those of you that want to know the rest of the joke:

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Post by: Ignominious on 26 May 2019, 06:21
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Post by: Tova on 14 Jun 2019, 20:56
Reminds me of another bit of satire.

Although written many years ago, Lady Chatterley's Lover has just been reissued by the Grove Press, and this pictorial account of the day-to-day life of an English gamekeeper is full of considerable interest to outdoor minded readers, as it contains many passages on pheasant-raising, the apprehending of poachers, ways to control vermin, and other chores and duties of the professional gamekeeper. Unfortunately, one is obliged to wade through many pages of extraneous material in order to discover and savour those sidelights on the management of a midland shooting estate, and in this reviewer's opinion the book cannot take the place of J. R. Miller's "Practical Gamekeeping."
      -- Ed Zern, "Field and Stream" (Nov.  1959)
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Post by: LeeC on 04 Jul 2019, 18:44
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