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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: SeanBateman on 28 Jan 2007, 11:47
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I had this idea. We could get a group of people who all really liked music, and do an album club.
The way I picture it, one person could upload a record, and everyone else could download it, listen to it, and then discuss it in the thread. After about a week, the next person could upload one, and repeat. I think it would be a really fun way to get people to listen to music they may not have otherwise, as well as stimulate discussion which is always fun!
If we were going to do this, I would want the rules to be something like as follows.
First, and most importantly, if you don't like something, hell, even if you despise something, feel free to say it, just, you know, say it nicely. There is a big difference between "This album was fucking terrible" and "Wow I really couldn't stomach this. I really really despised every single track." The difference between stating your opinion obectively and just stating your opinion is huge. I acknowledge this is hypocritical coming from me.
Second, Don't pick an album everyone has heard already. We all like the Arcade Fire, but Funeral would not be the most exciting album to discuss. This will be a lot more fun if people are being exposed to things they haven't heard before.
Third, Please Listen to the Whole album. It's not fair to just listen to one track and act like you gave the band a fair shake. I almost want to say that if you can't actually talk about an album, you lose your turn to upload, but that seems a little harsh.
That is pretty much it! I feel like the order could just be the order in which people join the club? The only thing I am unsure of is how the albums should be picked, whether it would be better to make a poll between three albums that everyone could vote on, or whether it should just be the persons choice.
Post here if you would be interested, I guess? I will take new people in until... lets say Tuesday night at 8:PM, Pacific Time, or when we get 20 people, whichever comes first. If there's enough spill over, it might not be a bad idea to do two groups instead of one, so everyone can participate without making it so not everyone gets a turn.
In terms of uploading files, there are many sites that work. The most common are www.Sendspace.com and www.Yousendit.com, which aren't bad, but both run a bit slowly. I would reccomend either www.senduit.com, which is fast but has no upload bar, or www.mediafire.com which I've never uploaded to but the downloads are like lightning. When you are posting the download links, it is a good idea to post them as hxxp instead of http, because then they need to be copy pasted, which means the site doesn't know we are putting so much traffic into it's servers.
1. Mistreatur
2. Johnny Katz
3. KharBevNor
4. Storm Rider
5. Kai
6. Kablaaamo
7. DynamiteKid
8. Soidanae
9. E. Spaceman
10. Clara
11. Tyler.
12. Zerodrone
13. Ben yayayayayayayay
14. AnonymousNoob
15. Johnny_C
16. Spinless
17. Joljin
18. El Rodente
19. godinpants
20. Sam
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I'm in.
I think that we should make a list of people that want to upload albums and then follow it, then update it as more people want to join. No matter how we do it, everyone should get their turn.
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I'm in, as long as I am assured being allowed to upload stuff. I also promise not to be too rude, but I will be frank. Just try not to keep it too sucky I guess? :p
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That is a good plan! I will start assembling the list. I am putting you first because it would be unfair for me to start it and then immedeatly force my taste on people.
Khar you are number 3. The only way you will not get to upload is if people lose interest really fast, but I am hoping that doesn't happen. Also frank is fine, but since I have a sneaking suspicion a lot of stuff wont be your taste, try to be a little gentle.
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Sure, I can always use the chance to get more exposure to new stuff. I'll just have to make sure I can find something people haven't already heard about.
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Definitely want in.
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I'm in too!
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I'm up for this, although I'll need to be shown how I'm uploading an album.
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Ditto me Dynamite Kid.
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After a couple minutes of thought, I have decided that I will be capping the club at 20, because otherwise I don't know if everyone will actually get a turn. I am not sure the numbers will get that high, but it's better to keep it under control, I think.
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i'm in
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I can dig it.
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Word to your mother. I'm in.
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Put me all up on that list.
You should definitely post EZ HOW TO UPLOAD A WHOLE ALBUM TO A SERVER THAT DOESN'T SUCK INSTRUCTIONZ because I have never done such a thing before either.
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I'm in, tentatively, but I may back out if life gets too consuming. As it may.
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I want in, gogogo!
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I would suggest that maybe you should stay out unless you're sure you can contribute. With limited space, it might keep somebody else who really wants to be involved out. Nothing against you personally, though.
I was referring to minkles, in case that wasn't obvious.
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I would like to be a part of this.
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Doggtown, I am sorry but I honestly have some hesitation about letting a guy named anonymous noob into this thing.
Also I am keeping 3 spots saved for people who aren't on right now but I think would want to take part, namely Spinless, Johnny_C, and possibly Skibas_Clavicle, is she has the time.
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Uh, I understand why you would be hesitant to let me participate, but I assure you that I am serious in my request to join.
If you are entirely against letting me participate then I guess I'll have to sit this out, however, I would really appreciate being allowed to be a part of this.
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Why am I not on the list already?!
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me!
kieffer me me me kieffer!
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Im up for it.
I already have an album in mind. though i can see it would take a while and possibly die before it got to me.
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Sorry buddy. 40 seconds too late. If more people sign up, I would be in favor of splitting into two groups of 15, but we'll see.
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damn. just too late.
I think this means i need to increase my internet speed. 1.5mb here I come...
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Darn.
Guess I'm also too late.
Warn me if you're going to open another group.
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Skibas is out, godinpants you're in.
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SCORE!
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I'll be open minded. I normally am, and have occasionally been surprised at a very good album or artist being recommended by people with tastes I normally dislike: thus my enjoyment of Neutral Milk Hotel and British Sea Power. Hopefully the instruction to post albums not everyone will have heard will keep some interesting and left-field stuff cropping up.
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aww crap, little to late for this one.
ah well, have fun you guys
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And hopefully people who are participating have a good idea of what "albums everyone has heard" is so that nobody is like HAY GUYS HAVE U HEARD OF SLINT.
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Put me down as hoping for another group I guess, nice idea.
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Is it too late to get in on this? I guess it probably is. :-(
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I like this idea and I love that I have reserved seating. I'm in.
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I know I'm too late, but if you start a second group, I want in.
:cry:
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What Sam said.
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Can others listen to the music and discuss as well, or only those 20?
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I'd be up for the second group, if we decide to split it up.
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This is a great idea, I reckon! It's kinda what happens now informally on a lot of sharing forums, but just giving it its own breathing space.
I'm wondering about starting a second thread, to get another one going. Would that be kosher? It wouldn't detract from this one would it?
I think a theme could be cool... maybe no songs? No rock? Hm. Just something to encourage a big variety of stuff to get discussed.
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Brittany, I wholely encourage everyone to listen and discuss, but not upload.
Fish, if you want to start another thread, go for it. Again, I am strongly for 15 and 15.
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One suggestion I have is that we probably don't need to do a week per album. I think, say, 3 days should be fine between uploads. Most of us are bored enough that we check this board at least once every 3 days, if not every day we're near a computer, right? And I think moving a little quicker would keep the interest level up. Just a thought.
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OK, put me down for the second 15, if there's still room.
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If there is a second edition or if someone drops, count me in.
Re your avatar:
I DO COCAAAAAAINE!
okay, carry on.
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So when should I upload an album?
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Kief, allow for a 21st person? I couldn't get at the innerwubs this weekend, but I like the idea.
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I'm going to go ahead and start the other thread, hopefully that's not too presumptuous of me. I'm going to go back through the thread and add some of the longer-standing forumites who did not get in on the first group automatically. So far that's:
amok
Valrus
Sam
Dark Flame
Brittany Marie
valley_parade
Johnny_ Katz, just let me know if you want to make it 15 and 15 and decide which 5 to send over. If you'd like to manage the other thread yourself just let me know and I can take the one I started down, it is your idea after all.
PS- If you do send people over, be sure to toss me at least one metalhead ;-).
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If it does split in two and there ends up being an opening in either group, it'd be nice if I could get in on this.
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So when should I upload an album?
As soon as possible would be ideal, actually. Get it up there, lets get started, etc. I'll set a "due date" for the next album based on when yours goes up.
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Ah, the fun part is going to be picking what album I'm going to spring on your folks.
Does this have to be a studio album? Or can it be a live album/compilation album by a band/multi-artist compilation? I'm not saying one I'd make up of my own, but that would be ridiculous. I mean like, for instance, the Trainspotting soundtrack, which is a great album in its own right.
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I've been away all weekend, but if there's room, I'd like to be a part of this. It sounds like a really great idea.
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http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,14810.0.html (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,14810.0.html)
The list for this one is full but the other thread has like five spots open! Go! Quck! Hurry!
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DK, I'd say a live record is fine(I was thinking about doing one) but a sound track seems a little off to me. It should be just one band, I think. Greatest Hits comps are okay, but really only for bands old enough that their albums only exist on vinyl.
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I say it has to be a studio album.
Maybe a live album, as long as it's a recording of one show.
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I'm uploading the album to Box.net now.
I'll post it when it's finished.
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Right. I'll rummage then :-D
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If anybody post any of the albums I have in mind before I do, I will kill you.
Just a friendly heads up, k.
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There's somthing wrong with Box.net. It wont let me upload more then 5 files into the album folder.
So, this may take some time.
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I'm officially dropping out. Fill my spot.
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There's somthing wrong with Box.net. It wont let me upload more then 5 files into the album folder.
So, this may take some time.
Dude, cmon, I gave you links. Go to www.sendspace.com, or www.senduit.com, or www.rapidshare.com, etc.
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box.net has this certain cool factor that none of those other things have kieffer.
get used to it!
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The link Box gave me to shrae was empty, so fuck it.
I'm uploading the album now to rapidshare, unless you want to go ahead and upload yours, kieff.
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Okay since Mistreatur doesn't have his up, and I've got this link all ready to go, I'm gonna throw this up real quick.
ROUND ONE
Dr. Dog- We All Belong.
login://www.sendspace.com/file/bmlad6
Hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?2mabkoxkzgw
Make sure you copy/paste the url without the login part, so we don't give sendspace direct traffic. The mediafire one will probably be well faster.
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This download is taking goddamn forever.
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Yeah it took pretty long.
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Sendspace is shitty, dudes, I am sorry.
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I like it so far. It kind of reminds me of Islands' Return To The Sea but a little less of a jumble. I'll talk more about it when I've heard it all.
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I'm sorry I didnt get the link up on time, guys. I had to restart the upload several times because of various computer probalms.
After the first listen of Dr. Dog's We All Belong:
Well, it sounds like a fusion of 60's pop and DIY indie, which is a rather original mix. The music itself is cute. No, it's fun, and well written. I had a great time listening to it. But after the first listen it doesnt seem like somthing I'd like to spend my money on or pick over other albums. I am going to give a few more spins later to see if I still feel the same way about it.
I really liked the songs Old News, We All Belong and especially Die Die Die.
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We should set up some kind of system where if a person recommends an album which he/she thinks not too many others have already heard, but turns out we all have heard it, he/she should get to pick a new album.
Say, once the album's uploaded, if 8+ of the club members have already heard it, a new album should be uploaded within a day. Or, the person can just skip his or her turn and go after the next member in line: chinese line-cut style.
For one of my biggest fears is picking Ziggy Stardust or something and getting kicked out of the club :cry:
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I have it downloaded now, but haven't had a chance to listen, as i have spent the last hour and a half howling in a fit of rage, watching CSI in a sulk, then fixing firefox.
i will stick it on my mp3 player and have a good listen tomorrow
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I'm sorry I didnt get the link up on time, guys. I had to restart the upload several times because of various computer probalms.
After the first listen of Dr. Dog's We All Belong:
Well, it sounds like a fusion of 60's pop and DIY indie, which is a rather original mix. The music itself is cute. No, it's fun, and well written. I had a great time listening to it. But after the first listen it doesnt seem like somthing I'd like to spend my money on or pick over other albums. I am going to give a few more spins later to see if I still feel the same way about it.
I really liked the songs Old News, We All Belong and especially Die Die Die.
Die Die Die is funny to me, because for the most part I don't really find myself grabbed by the lyrics on this record at all, but that song is one of my favourites too, and I think it's mostly because of the words. Same is true for Alaska, but that also has a lot to do with the Gratefil Dead feel I get from the song.
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I've already told Kieffer this, but this is more of a "background music" type of album instead of something you would actually have to pay attention to. It's not too jarring so that it's unpleasant, so you can play this at a gathering. I like it!
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I agree with the whole "fusion of 60's pop and DIY indie" it has that whole thing in the sound.
I was thinking I might write a track by track breakdown but lets see how far that goes.
The first track "My Old Ways"
Something about the opening of this song, just makes me think old christmas music. It seems like theyve filled every second of this song with some sort of noise, the double tracked pianos, the percussion, strumming of the guitar, it all fits and even though it seems like a noisy mix, its one of those mixes you can get lost in, just listening to like what sounds like a wood block part and just ignore anything else going on in the song.
The Lyrics aren't quite my thing though.
"Keep a Friend"
While better than the first, its not quite my deal. The guitar is really nasal and occasionally screechy. Im not to sure about the singer though
"The Girl"
I like this song, really dirty, that main bass( i think) riff sort of drags everything into its distortion,
Seems to fall apart around 2:30, then it just too distorted and noisy for my liking.
"Alaska"
This ones nice, nice and laid back. A good break from the last track. Sounds like the type of band they have playing at pubs at night sometimes, the ones that arent playing ac/dc anyway.
I like how the guitar bursts on either side sort of pull your head across to themselves.
(Theres bottle noises in the background, is it in a bar?)
It reminds me possibly of the grateful dead. I think its the organs.
(its funny i typed that then came back and saw a reply about it being liek the grateful dead)
"Weekend"
This has some sort of reggae feel to it, it think its the pumping organ and bass lead melody.
I like the guitars being all twiddly in the background.
"Ain't it Strange"
Again this is another christmas sounding song. i think its the bells and the vocal melodies. And the fact ive been exposed to alot of christmas music that came from the era that this sounds like its from (even though its not)
This song has a nice sound towards the end with the vocals and guitars playing the same thing
"Worst Trip"
My favourite song on the album, horns, funky guitar, nice bass grooves. Trip related lyrics always make for good music.
I cant quite think of who the singer reminds me of, maybe ill remember later.
This song also has probably the most hi-fi sound.
Not much needs to be said here, except that tis awesome. I would probably buy the album for this song alone.
"The Way the Lazy Do"
Another good song here. I think as a bass player, im drawn to these songs where the bass plays a big part.
Also some nice guitar work on here, not really a song that makes me think of lazy though.
The drums seem a little empty though.
"Die Die Die"
Another noisy song. Makes me think of the unicorns a bit.
This song is a bit too slow and the same thing over and over. sort of boring.
"We All Belong"
This song reminds me of the beatles. A good way to end an album.
All in all. While im not going to rush out an buy this album. I like a few of the songs enough to buy it if i found it reasonable priced.
A bit too dirty and low quality sounding for my liking. I think thats a sound you can use on one or two tracks, but on a whole album, it just makes it sound like it was released in the 60's or something.
Was this album done on tape?
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I agree that it also sounds like background music. It sort of sounds like the later-era Beatles with a bit less of the surrealism. I like how the music's got plenty of layers, but at the same time I didn't feel really engaged by any particular hook or chorus. I enjoyed it to an extent, but it's probably not something I'd bother listening to on my own or be compelled to find more of based on this album.
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It kind of reminds me of Islands' Return To The Sea but a little less of a jumble.
Another noisy song. Makes me think of the unicorns a bit.
I see a pattern here.
I like the dirty, lo-fi atmosphere. It's lacksidasical and laid-back, with a few exceptions. When it cleans up during "Worst Trip" I get kinda ticked off because I'm all, "Hey, I'm trying to get a mood going, here," and it's all "THESE HARMONIES WILL REMIND YOU OF 'CARRY ON NOW WAYWARD SON'" and I'm all "Dangit."
I don't like "The Way The Lazy Do" but maybe that's because it comes before two really great tracks. "Die Die Die" and "We All Belong" are great, woozy pop songs, and the latter is a great closer.
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Theres also been 2 mentions of it sounding like the grateful dead, and the beatles.
On further listening, while i like it more, the dirty sound of the recording gets to me.
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Re: Dr. Dog - It's a pretty fun record, it reminds me of a tamer Olivia Tremor Control. Definitely not bad but not something I'd buy. I wish I had more to say about it but I can't really think of anything.
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I am going to go a bit further than zerodrone and say that this record has a very elephant 6 feel to it. There is the low fi recording of layered unusual instruments, the whimsical mood and lyrics and the huge boner for the Beatles.
A pretty fun record which is nice to listen to, but it's also not one to cause a strong impression on me.
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I enjoyed this album quite a bit. While there were quite a few droning songs that were good, but did not particularly draw a great deal of attention, I thought that We All Belong and Alaska were both captivating. The Girl and Die Die Die were both quite fun as well. As an album in its whole, I did not enjoy it nearly as much as when I decided to piecemeal and listen to a random track one at a time.
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hmmmm... i rather like this, i'm on my second listen now. It varies a lot, so there are obviouslt some tracks i like more than others, but i like worst trip, music-wise (even though it sounds like they are saying you have aids)
and Old news, lyrically is one of my favourites.
i'll post some more opinions when i have them
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Gonna download it now, spend the rest of the night (and tommorrow morning) listenning to it, I'll have an opinion up tommorrow afternoon.
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I very much like the Dr. Dog record, but I am coming to the realization that I don't have the time to express myself properly about it (and will likely not have the time for albums in future rounds.)
Sorry. Count me out.
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I enjoyed this album quite a bit. While there were quite a few droning songs that were good, but did not particularly draw a great deal of attention, I thought that We All Belong and Alaska were both captivating. The Girl and Die Die Die were both quite fun as well. As an album in its whole, I did not enjoy it nearly as much as when I decided to piecemeal and listen to a random track one at a time.
Actually this is a really good approach. I think they could have ordered the record a little better; as it is, even just selecting the album and playing it on shuffle will result in a more cohesive record about 2/3rds of the time, though "We All Belong" is still the best closer.
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I did a track by track of the whole damn thing, then my computer crashed. Aye aye aye.
It was alright. I will elborate further later maybe.
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If there is a second edition or if someone drops, count me in.
Re your avatar:
I DO COCAAAAAAINE!
okay, carry on.
Seriously, dude. Lotta cocaine.
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I am not impressed by this album at all. It didn't seem to have an idea between its 38 minutes. They've hit on the totally unheard of method of sounding like most bands from the Sixties. They're the bastard child of Beatles, Byrds and Beach Boys, only not nearly as good in any case.
I suppose the music itself isn't really bad. The harmonies are well done, the productions okay, and the closing track borderline gets your attention. But it just seems so worthless. It's like, this album needn't exist, at all. It's like if a pub band who did exclusively 60s covers, all of whom have receding hair, made a record.
Anyway, whose record is next?
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Mine? Or Mis if he can upload, I don't want him to miss his turn.
I feel I've got to agree with you about the records lack of originality. As I said, it was 'alright', but...yeah. Also, would it have hurt them not to do the same backing vocals in every track?
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I think Everyone talked about Dr. Dog's We All Belong, so I can upload mine now (thanks Khar!).
Shipping News - Flies the Fields (http://rapidshare.com/files/14025489/Shipping_News_-_Flies_the_Fields.rar.html)
I really love this album. I guess it's the minimlist post rock that gets me.
I dont have a lot to say about this album except that I love it. This is kind of why I'm posting it here.
Also, people who still want to discuss Dr. Dog's album can still do, I guess.
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Ugh, can everybody please not use Rapidshare? Pretty please? It's not the fastest or easiest or anything so there's no need to.
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So is there any schedule set in stone for when a new album goes up, so people aren't cutting each other's discussion short and whatnot. Not to mention it allows people to have some deadline to work with.
I'm not saying you cut off the first upload, just wondering if there's a schedule we could all agree on. I still need to give Dr. Dog a few more listens before I respond.
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Hmm you should move faster, dude. It's been almost a week by this point, and I think either 2 or 3 people still haven't checked in.
I'd like to do an every monday, every thursday thing, if it was up to me, but I can understand that being a little tight. Anyway, throw up the last couple Dr. Dogg after we start discussing Mis's shit.
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I just now listened to the Dr. Dog. it is, as others have said, just "alright". Nothing really standing out enough for me to really seek out and listen to it though.
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Ugh, can everybody please not use Rapidshare? Pretty please? It's not the fastest or easiest or anything so there's no need to.
And I can't use it for some reason.
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strange, i was going to argue that it was the most universally usable, but that is strange.
megaupload is pretty good, but has shitty amounts of download spots for people in other countries
edit: just finished downloading shipping news, i will listen in a bit
edit again: listened to it all
i have to say i found this pretty boring. when i first put it on, it sounded promising, but just carried on in the same way for too long. i can't fault the actualy playing of the instruments, but i found the whole thing to be pretty samey, and a little too guitar heavy for my liking.
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I agree with Ian for a lot of this. In general, most of the tracks seemed to simply drone on. I kept expecting some climactic moment in each track, and it never came. It seemed generally like an amateurish EitS. The songs were not particularly bad, but there was just nothing very interesting about them either. There was far too much guitar feedback on every track. The Human Face and Untitled w/drums were the most accessible tracks for me. The band simply needs to explore more variation in sounds and I think they would be much improved.
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I'm with Miseratur on this one. The minimalism that seems to be turning some people off is something I consider to be a good thing. I don't want every one of my post-rock bands to sound like Mono You! Black Mogwai. I need the Shipping News's and Tarentels around to keep things interesting.
I'll write more about it when I have more time.
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Should Louven off Shipping News be skipping/dropping out? If it's part of the song then alright, if not then my copy is busted.
I've already tried deleting the folder and re-expanding the .rar file. The same thing happened so I deleted the file and the .rar and downloaded the .rar again from the link you provided. Still no luck.
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How far in? Mine is four-fifths of the way through and it hasn't done so yet.
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It starts in a couple of seconds after the song starts.
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Should Louven off Shipping News be skipping/dropping out? If it's part of the song then alright, if not then my copy is busted.
I've already tried deleting the folder and re-expanding the .rar file. The same thing happened so I deleted the file and the .rar and downloaded the .rar again from the link you provided. Still no luck.
Here (http://www.box.net/public/6598uhajry) are all of the songs on the album except for the last one. Try dwonloading it from here.
If youre still having trouble with it I'll just upload the .rar file again.
Also, I totally agree with zerodrone.
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There was a lot more drive to this album than post-rock records I normally listen to. I mean, other bands in the genre I like make music that's just as active, but Shipping News managed to give their record a steady pulse. I can appreciate that.
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I really enjoyed this record! I'll agree mostly with what's been said about it being background music -- but by the time I did start "actively" listening to it, I really had come to appreciate just how overtly cool it was, and the songs I liked best do seem to be the ones that manifest that sort of easy laziness best. "Worst Trip" and "Weekend" both stick out in my mind for those reasons: the former has something totally driving about it, most likely an incredible bassline, the sort that gets heads bobbing and hips gyrating even if it is only in your car seat; and the latter, while the mellower of the two, has such a sweet demeanor that makes its kind of anticlimactic rise-and-fall totally supple and appropriate. It's not brimming over itself in eagerness to impress -- it's nostalgia set to tape, and it is SO GOOD.
"Alaska" made this record for me, but that seems to be the consensus anyways? "The Girl" and "The Way the Lazy Do" sound like they might have been all right ideas that are overladen with, uhm, noise. They lose their focus when the harmonies start getting lost in whatever that is - my guess is noisemakers. "Ain't it Strange" is sort of sappy in a really garish way, I feel like it's just, at best, filler between to really great songs. Almost pointless enough to merit the effort of reaching for the skip button.
"Die Die Die" is great in an entirely different vein, as is the album's closer. Overall the album makes me think of all that '60s jargon you guys have been bringing up, but a whole lot of the album reminds me of what I like about Pavement, but a whole lot cooler and a whole lot simpler. I'm thinking "Range Life" type-Pavement here.
Also, sorry about the delay, I thought I was going to write a review about this for my school newspaper and was waiting to post it, but that was a miscommunication between me and the entertainment editor. So!
edit: This second upload isn't working for me at all, will update when I get back home.
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Could someone upload the last track to Box for me? I can't use Rapidshare because I have a Mac. :-P
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Macs can use RapidShare.
I'm proof of this.
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Oh...well then. Maybe I just don't feel like downloading it, but damned if I'm going to.
Okay, fine, I guess I will.
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I just finished my first listen to Shipping News, and I'm not very impressed. Overall I just found it very boring, the music was very droning and the vocals were sort of muffled, so I couldn't make out any lyrics (I'm listening on speakers, perhaps I would hear them better if I put on my headphones). Maybe I should just put it on as background music like everyone says, but so far I'm not too taken with this album :-(
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This was by no means a bad record, but I wouldn't call it good either. I don't really see how you are going to call this minimalist either. Or, well, even post rock.
I'm gonna listen to this again now, updates when I finish.
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I find it's less minimalist in the sense of instrumentation, etc., and more minimalist in the sense that the songwriting is very, well, minimal. It's full of droning and repetition.
I dig a lot of drone-based stuff so I guess that's why I like it. The muffling of the vocals seems like a deliberate sort of production choice, in keeping with the rest of the steady, monochromatic feel.
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Okay I just listened through this again. In some places I really started to enjoy it, but for the most part, I found it bland at best, obnoxious at worst. For example, "Axons and Dendrittes" starts off amazing, and listening to it I was sure I was going to enjoy the album, but the vocals just comepletely blew it for me. It took the kind of elegance of the song and made it sound really juvenile and immature.
(Morays or) Demon was also pretty bad. The Vocals are I think my biggest problem with this record, actually. The chorus sounds like he is trying to do a bad Modest Mouse impression with out any of Brock's distinctive style or lyrical flair. The song itself builds well, but it doesn't go anywhere except the chorus, which, as I said, I found less than impressive.
Overall, the album sounds like they took a couple of really good QOTSA songs, stretched them out, took josh homme, shot him, and replaced him with a dude who couldn't sing nearly as well. I might give it another listen, to pinpoint songs I did like, but this wasn't my thing.
For the record, I typically really really like minimalist, droning stuff, which is why I was so disappointed in this record.
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I really dont think the lyrics matter that much. They're not printed in the booklet and like Johnny C said, the muffling of the vocals was probably a deliberate production choice. I see the vocals on this album as just another instrument. Plus, I really like Axons and Dendrites, even with the vocals.
Come to think of it, I should have uploaded one of their earlier albums.
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When a call an album like this "minimalist" I'm really using that as a fancy word for "stark and cold", I think. I dig the vocals.
I can listen to Windy & Carl's 3-CD boxset all the way through for days at a time, though, so I'm probably more comfortable than some of you with things that are simple and/or repetitive.
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I just think that if the lyrics weren't very important, they would've muffled the vocals even more. They seem to be just audible enough to make out some words, but not enough to get the whole picture, which makes it seem like the band actually cared about the vocals. I say either go full on My Bloody Valentine, or put them up in front of the music, but that's just my ugly opinion.
A good way to describe the droning in this album is to say that if I'm listening to a song, and just click on any other random time in the song, it'll sound basically the same to me as the part I was just listening to.
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I have to say I'm digging this, but that's probably because I've been using it as background music for a bit. I understand the drone, because I like that kind of music from time to time. The vocals? Yeah, I get what you mean by the vocals not being there, but I'm also thinking about them as another instrument, since they're so blurred on some tracks. Although, on some tracks the vocals kind've get in the way of the actual music a bit too much, while on other they mesh nicely (Example: Untitled w/Drums).
So, one question, when are the updates again? Every what?
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Oh shit man, totally forgot to listen to this! been a hellish couple of last days, theory essays and zinc plate etching oh my!
I'll upload my album and give my thoughts of this one when I get back to my base of operations on the Isle of Wight, which should be about 10PM GMT tonight.
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Okay guys
Ewigkeit - Conspiritus (http://senduit.com/76a2b8)
Sorry about the wait.
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I need to give this a second listen through, but so far I have really enjoyed it.
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So far my favourite track is "Square Sunrise." That harmonica is so goddamn awesome.
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I'm partial to 'It's Not Reality' and 'The Thought Police', myself. It might be because those are the more straightforward metal songs.
Either way this is totally rad, Khar. I'll try and do a more detailed write up later, but I am way tired.
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Pkay, I just have to ask, since I downloaded it((Hope that that is okay)) and I just want to know what type of music this album is since I have been trying to find some good new bands and other stuff to listen to. And by the way, this group totally rocks, and Its Not Reality is awesome.
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The tags say "Dance Metal." In theory this is my new favourite genre.
I have to add that a couple of things grate on me. The album is kind of unrelenting right up until the very last track. Even the quieter parts throughout the tracks are mostly very aggressive and hyper, which makes for kind of a wearying listen.
The second problem I have is basically with the last two tracks. "How To Conquer The World" I have a tough time with; live and fake-live tracks (I am going out on a limb and assuming this one is the latter) in the middle of studio albums, even studio concept albums, almost never appeal to me. I find they kind of drag me too forcefully out of the context of the album. "The Needle And The Damage Done" off of Neil Young's Harvest does the same thing to me as "How To Conquer The World." A glance at the Wikipedia reveals this record to be a concept album, and I can appreciate that this may be a part of the concept, but it's an irritating little production quirk that I can't profess to enjoy. "Conspiritus," musically, is just placed really awkwardly. You have this overly-aggressive record that just doesn't quit pounding music into your ear... and it ends with that track?
For those faults, the record is still a really good listen. It's crammed full of dark, heavy hooks and compelling songs. It's unfortunate that the last two songs seem like such poor choices.
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Man the last two songs should be Theoreality the Conspiritus.
I guess I should have done the tags better, but the albums always worked fine for me.
This video by Jim Fogarty (Ewigkeits sole studio member) explains the albums concept very basically. Be warned, he is a very paranoid and cynical man, also an anarchist! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH78vRAmBQw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH78vRAmBQw)
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This album deserves more discussion, guys. Also, who is next? Get on the ball, would ya?
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I thought this was a good album, but I need to listen to it a couple more times before I can really decide anything. It was really poppy though. Not sure if I am crazy about that.
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This album deserves more discussion, guys. Also, who is next? Get on the ball, would ya?
Yeah, who is that fucker...
*goes back and looks at the list*
...I mean shining paragon of human being?
I'll upload it later tonight, hopefully!
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Here we are guys!
Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come (1970) (http://www.mediafire.com/?dm4dn4utnyi)
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Ewigkeit really is unlike anything on my computer so it is hard to make comparisons. The faster tempos, smart lyrics, and tranced bass make the music quite enjoyable. I particularly enjoyed the Thought Police.
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It was a great deal catchier than I'm used to when dealing with metal. Like, I remember humming the chorus to Thought Police several hours after listening to the album. I like the tasteful use of keyboards as well, which is almost never done correctly in metal. As I mentioned earlier, The Thought Police and It's Not Reality were my favorite tracks, probably because they were easy to enjoy on the surface level from the up-tempo riffs, but had some more depth to them that holds up after multiple listenings. I wasn't a big fan of Square Sunrise or Transcend the Senses, but they weren't bad songs, and I liked pretty much every minute of the rest. The best thing about this is that I probably never would have heard of this unless it had been uploaded here.
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I need to listen to these albums a little more before I post my opinion.
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i really really liked this album (Ewigkeit). Fun, catchy metal played with skill but not wankery. Soid songwriting and a good ear for melody.
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You guys do know I uploaded the next album, right?
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I will download that soon, but basically every band that I could possibly want to listen to leaked an album this week, so I need a minute. I gotta get through Blonde Redhead, the new Brett Anderson solo record, and Ted Leo before I can even think about this record.
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That's cool, I just didn't want the tread to accidentally die.
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The Internet I am using hates me.
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just to reanimate this thread, i am listening to khar's album now, and downloading storm_rider's
i am liking ewigkeit so far
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oh god thanks for bringing this thread back up.
Downloading storm's.
I'm next; when should I upload my stuff? I don't think many people have listened to Storm's yet, so I'm thinking about waiting a little bit.
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As far as Sir Lord Baltimore goes... hm. In the context of the time period, okay, it's not half bad and fairly innovative. Honestly I just don't really like it, though. I mean, the year before, MC5 had released Kick Out the Jams, so I think even if I were living in that time period, I wouldn't take bands like MC5 off the record player to put something like this on. Not that it's truly bad at all, just that I don't find it truly interesting and most of the songs are too unfocused to keep my attention. Most of them - especially tracks 1 and 3... are way too long and meandering.
Still, I can appreciate this as being an overlooked classic that metal fans should listen to.
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They were basically the American response to the British proto-metal movement. Blue Cheer was certainly better as far as early American heavy metal goes, but I was trying to find something nobody already knew about.
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This is basically completely awesome music to pump my fist to.
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At first I did not like Sir Lord Baltimore, then I listened to it again when I was in a goofier mood, and had a fabulous time listening. It is music I cannot take seriously, but can seriously enjoy.
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My little brother really liked this album.
Basically like everyone said, it was fun, not amazing. I don't really know what makes this "metal" as I am not really a fan of that genre usually, but I liked this nonetheless. The vocals sounded like Captain Beefheart with less gravel to me, and the music itself was pretty great. I was happy that the songs went on for 4 or 5 minutes as a standard, because that whole "lets play a ton of short songs" thing has never really been that great in my eyes, so this is definitely an okay thing.
I like Master Heartache a lot, and I Got a Woman is pretty awesome. I don't know why they put Lake Isle Of Innersfree on there though. That song makes me want to hate the whole band.
I would like someone to explain why this is "Metal" to me though. I am not seeing what seperates it from just "music that has guitars and drums."
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Well, it's basically the heavier blues-rock that became the basis of what would grow into heavy metal in the near future. Bands like this one, Led Zeppelin, Blue Cheer, and so on are what early metal artists derived their sound from. Of course, Black Sabbath released their debut a year earlier than this album, but I was speaking more in a general sense because a lot of that subgenre developed pretty rapidly. That's why I used the term 'proto-metal', although now that I think about it that word probably made me sound like a pretentious douche.
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Well, there's also something really basic, gritty and primal about the album that makes the "proto-" a bit more apt.
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I'd definitely use the term proto-metal to describe this album.
Like everybody said, it's pretty good. Almost stoner metal at some points from what I remmember. It's a shame not a lot of people (including myself) know this band, it should be mentioned with Blue Cheer and Led Zeppelin.
I should send this album to my metalhead friends, they'd probably appreciate it.
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Let's get this thing moving, people! I'm really psyched about the album I'm going to do and we're moving really slow here. :|
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Sorry I realise I've gone a bit AWOL on this thread. I'll listen to the next record. I've just been massively ill and had schoolwork to catch up on I skipped a few records. I have one to put up for you guys to listen to when it gets to my turn though.
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So seriously Sir Lord Baltimore are awesome partying music. My favourite part of the whole record is during "Pumped Up":
WAHLAH WATCHA! *brikka-DOW!*
*huge solo*
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I'm bumping this thread because I really want the next album.
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I'm gonna be 21 before this thing ends.
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shit it is my album
it will be up tomorrow morning, first thing
right now
sleep
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it will be up tomorrow morning, first thing
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Hey I'm only 10 hours late cut me some slack dude
Ad Astra Per Aspera - Catapult Calypso (http://www.sendspace.com/file/hcvgeg)
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GUYS
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I downloaded it last night, but I totally don't have time to listen to it until tomorrow! I'll do it ASAP though.
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I downloaded and listened last night, from what i remember it was good.
i'll have another listen later.
I really liked "nothing else is the real thing"
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I completely forgot about this thread. But I'm feeling committed. I'm gonna go back and listen to them all.
Except, I can't open them all. I need .rar opening thing for OSX.
Anybody?
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I couldn't be arsed. WinRar doesn't have a graphical interface in OSX and so it's all ridiculous coding garbage. I haven't found another program to help me out.
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I can upload mine as a zip later today, if that would help.
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Okay, I got the album Kai uploaded. Darling, you sent a track from this album once before! I liked it.
Upon first listen, it's the most refreshing album I've heard in weeks. It makes me feel like doing that 'punching the air' dance. I bet they'd be fun live. This is a perfectly good band. I'm liking it immensely. I'll talk a little more once I've worn it out a little.
During the slower moments, it's not as interesting. They need to just jump right in there and rock your face off, because those parts are the best bits by far.
Edit: This thread is a little dead aye? Maybe we should buzz emails around to circle to remind eachother about it and check who's still in?
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they're a band from around here. They put on a great live show.
And I agree; when the album slows down 4 or 5 songs in I start losing interest. But for their first album I think they have alot of promise anyways.
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This is a debut? I can see it going one of two ways. They'll either take the quieter root and have a weak sophomore, of they'll rock the fuck out and the second album will kick the shit out of everything. I do hear some potential.
Do they have an EP? I'll bet it's good if they do.
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They have two EPs and this, I think. I only have one of the EPs. It's more of the softer stuff, so they've been slowly moving towards 'rock the fuck out' mode. Which is where I think they're headed, anyways.
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Guys my computer broke in half(Posting from Apple Store) but I will try to be back in the thick of it ASAP
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Computer...in half...I really want to hear that story.
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Still on the subject of Catapult Calypso, Post Scarcity Sing-a-long is my favourite track so far, save for one thing. The keys. I can't figure it out, I just ain't too fond of the keys on this album. There's something about them that slows the whole thing down. Even the faster tracks feel slower when you can hear the keys loud in the mix. Still makes me wanna punch the sky sometimes though.
I found the first part of 'nothing else is the real thing' kinda boring. But that song really gets going near the end.
I'm soulseeking all the broken links, but I do have Kieffer's upload to listen to.
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quieter root
On topic, the "rock the fuck out" direction is my hope because I think they'd be pretty rad with it.
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Yeah, in music, it's not 'route' like a path you would take, music grows like plants and stuff, hence 'Root'.
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Okay, I crap you. I don't read my own post before I click 'submit'.
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Okay I am back in this. Downloading now.
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Guys, I think that the 'talk' part of this thread would work so much better in real time, for that purpose, I recommend you add my msn (listed in my profile) and ask what I think of each current album at least once, obviously I'll ask what you think too. You can't (shouldn't) post like you're having a conversation and talking about music like this really has to be spontaneous, at least at first.
Also, Darling's album has been up on it's own for about a week now. Just thought I'd bring that up.
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So, who's turn has it been? Oh wait, this thread died. I so sad now.
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For the sake of the thread, I'm taking my turn early.
http://www.box.net/shared/l7jcgn4ujg
Call Me Lightning-Soft Skeletons
Not the album I wanted to upload, but the other was like 200MB. Enjoy.