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Title: What, in your opinion, is the scariest film ever made?
Post by: KharBevNor on 12 Jun 2007, 22:49
My vote, hands down, goes to Suspiria.

(http://www.horrortalk.com/reviews/Suspiria/SUSPIRIA%207.jpg)

For the uninitiated, Suspiria is probably italian director Dario Argentos masterpiece (though he's made other excellent films: Tenebrae, Profondo Rosso and Phenomena are my personal favourites). Though some of its effects have dated by now (I'm mainly thinking of the bat), it still looks, sounds and feels like no other film on earth. Literally from the first seconds of the credits the soundtrack, by italian prog rock band Goblin, has you on edge. There are a few seconds of normality as the heroin walks throught the airport, and then, as the doors slide open (with a masterful shot that makes it look like a knife thrust) there is absolutely no doubt until the very end of the film that horrible, horrible things are going to happen and that there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop them. Everything about it, the soundtrack, the old-fashioned technicolour, the cinematography, the sets, every single element is perfectly calculated to instill dread, discomfort and all that jazz. As with all the great horror films, it's the tension that really makes it good, rather than the 'shock' reveals that most horror films nowadays seem to rely on, though it also has some of the most shocking moments in film when that tension breaks (two words: RAZOR WIRE). I can't say anymore without ruining it for those who haven't seen it, but man, watch this film.

What are your scariest horror films? Not best, I want to add: I don't think Suspiria is the best horror film ever made, mainly because of its weak ending. That honour goes to Alien (which is also, in my opinion, the third scariest film ever made, right behind Wes Craven's The Last House on the Left, a film which makes modern entries like Hostel look like a teddy bears picnic.) We can also, maybe, talk about why most horror movies nowadays suck balls on both scales of rating horror films (they are neither scary, nor do they work as insane schlockfests, partly I think because they try to be both and fail abysmally). I also think it has something to do, wierdly enough, with the film literacy of film-makers nowadays. There's too many homages and references (not counting the seemingly endless torrent of remakes). People aren't so much looking into the roots of what really makes good horror: Argentos main sources, for example, were his childhood nightmares (In one interview I saw with him he recalls having to walk down a long corridor with many doors to get to his room as a young child, which scared him shitless, and how that eventually resurfaced in, for example, Suspiria) and research into mutants, insects and other disqueting things.

Anyway, I just wanted to babble. Shoot away people.
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Post by: rasufelle on 12 Jun 2007, 23:15
My top three scariest horror films would probably be, umm...

-Night of the Living Dead
-House
-The Fly

Night of the Living Dead wins out, in my opinion, for several reasons, but the most pressing has to be that George Romero did back in the day something that hasn't been done since: he scared the bejeezus out of everyone who saw the original B&W film with almost no special effects, and for the type of movie an almost inconceivably minimal amount of blood.  I had nightmares for WEEKS after seeing the movie the first time, and I still can't watch it alone.

House, admittedly, gets such a high ranking mostly on the basis that it was the first scary movie I ever sat down and watched, and it really freaked me out.  Then again, I was eight.
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Post by: TheBoredOne on 12 Jun 2007, 23:23
My personal picks are The Haunting (the old version, not the catherine zeta jones version) and the Grudge, when it was in theaters.

I saw the Grudge in theaters twice and it scared the crap out of my twice.
DVD, not so much.

Oh man, I love a good ghost story. To hell with the special effects. I like to be spooked.
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Post by: Emaline on 13 Jun 2007, 00:16
I liked Ju-on better than The Grudge. The first night I watched it, it scared the shit out of me, which could have been because I had not slept, and it was roughly around 4am when I was watching it, and at one point, we inexplicably lost electricity. Scared me shitless.


I watched again later that we and it wasn't to scary.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 13 Jun 2007, 01:41
I think it's Nightmare on Elm Street 3. Simply because I have an ear thing due to the complications in surgeries I've had on my ear. That scene where freddy kills the deaf kid still makes me shudder. I'm not really into horror movies though and I am aware that most people don't consider any of the Nightmare on Elm Street films as part of the horror genre past the first movie. Still, I now have a fear of Freddy Krugar.
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Post by: Omnicide on 13 Jun 2007, 04:00
I think a good horror film tends to be all in the soundtrack- imagine The Shining without the pizzicato or Suspiria without the drums and moans.

I'm going with The Shining- no other film gives me such a lasting disquiet afterwards.
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Post by: fish across face on 13 Jun 2007, 07:03
I'm not a horror fan, so this may be a dumb thread for me to post in, but the movie that scared me most was Nicolas Roeg's Don't Look Now.  Donald Sutherland is great in it. 

I remember going to a party at a friend's flat and he had Suspiria playing on a TV in one room and Eraserhead in another.  Hm.

Generally I find things scarier if they're from the 70s, don't know why. :)
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Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 13 Jun 2007, 11:40
i'm gonna go with The Shining simply because of one small scene that haunts me to this day. i don't know why.
the scene where he is walking up a flight of stairs and he gets to the top and looks down the hall to his right and one of the rooms is open and inside is some dude sitting on the edge of a bed and there's a guy in a dog suit sitting at his feet. then they both look over at the camera or stand up or something. it's a really short scene but it's always freaked me out since i was a kid.
also; the naked old lady.
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Post by: ampersandwitch on 13 Jun 2007, 14:03
some dude sitting on the edge of a bed and there's a guy in a dog suit

He was actually totally being fellated by the fellow in the bear suit, I believe it was.
I am still afraid to watch the end of Pi.  It's pretty scary.
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Post by: Will on 13 Jun 2007, 15:41
I'm not really scared by horror movies, at least not in terms of scares that last anywhere past the initial jumpiness I have right when a scene takes place. The movie that gave me absolute bone-chilling nightmares though when I first saw it is Silence Of The Lambs. I can't remember how old I was, but it was shortly after the movie had come out on video. I was't even watching it; I had come out into the living room right as the elevator scene was taking place, but that combined with the part where the one guard is strung up in a crucifix pose gave me nightmares for days.

The shit that really scares me is the more psychological mindfuckery, and not so much the slashiness.
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Post by: tomselleck69 on 13 Jun 2007, 15:52
i love suspiria, but i've got trouble actually finding it scary instead of goofy (this applies to all giallo.)

Film has never really SCARED me, but I guess the most frightening/intriguing concept I've ever seen in a film was Shinya Tsukamoto's Haze.
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Post by: wm_star on 13 Jun 2007, 16:59
The Exorcist.  My husband, the horror-lover, says so, and I've never been able to watch it all the way through because I get so freaked out, so I guess it's pretty damn scary.  For evidence, we present the following:


Honorable metions:  I agree whole-heartedly with the original The Haunting; Psycho's pretty creepy; The Boston Strangler; The Sadist; the first 30 minutes of the original Dracula.  Can you tell we love the schlock and cult movies?  :)
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Post by: Dimmukane on 13 Jun 2007, 21:38
Night of the Living Dead, because zombies fucking rule.
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Post by: Emaline on 14 Jun 2007, 04:51
Excuse me for bitching again, but the Exorcist was rather boring. The first time I tried watching it, I fell asleep. The second time I tried watching it, I got so bored, I gave up and went to watch something else.

(Warning: Post gets really long from here, and may contain spoilers. I've bolded what I thought was important, to help you skip through what you don't want to read.)

I really do like horror though. Mostly Japanese, and Korean stuff. Has anyone seen Tale of Two Sisters, 3 Extremes, or Audition? Audition is one of my favorite films. The first time I watched it, it freaked me out. The second time, I was more creeped out. I think this was due to the scene where she is torturing the main character guy. I'm super afraid of needles, so that scene made my skin crawl.



A few American horror films that should be mentioned are May, The Omen, Rosemary's Baby, and The Sentinel.


Now if you wanna go cheesy(though these don't really qualify for scariest movie ever made, they do continue with the discussion of horror), I recommend Jeepers Creppers(both 1 and 2), Near Death 2, Night Of the Living Dead, Return of the Living Dead, and Evil Dead.




Oh, how I could go on. I love horror. Of my movie collection, I think I have maybe 2 non-horror ones. Sorry for the extremely long post.
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Post by: KharBevNor on 14 Jun 2007, 11:59
Oh cheesy horror films? Lets do the list:


1: Bad Taste

This film is worth watching because you get to see Peter Jackson scream "EAT MY SPINNING STEEL SHITHEAD!" Then jump right down an aliens throat holding a chainsaw. Also, someone blows up a sheep. Also, it has one of the best theme songs in cinema history. Remember: "Dereks don't run!"
 
2: Brain Dead

Another Peter Jackson film. Classic tale of boy meets girl, boys mother turns into zombie, mother eats girls dog, boy imprisons mother and growing horde of zombies in the cellar and keeps them sedated with animal tranquillisers purchased from an insane nazi vet, boys lecherous uncle throws house party, boy accidentally injects zombies with stimulants, zombies devour guests, boy slaughters zombies with a lawnmower, boy is devoured by his massive bloated demon mother, boy literally hacks his way out of her womb and leaves her to burn, boy and girl live happily ever after.

3: I Bought a Vampire Motorcycle

It's about a guy (Neil Morrisey!) who buys a motorcycle. The motorcycle turns out to be a vampire. It won't run in sunlight, but when night falls it sprouts blades and spikes and roams the streets of Birmingham refuelling on the blood of hells angels, prostitutes and traffic wardens. Blood-draining tubes sprout from its front fork, it can fire off crossbow bolts, its broken head-lamp transforms into a rending broken-glass jaw, it does wheelies and grows scythe blades from its front wheel which it uses to decapitate people, and various other wonderful things. It can also climb walls. After the bike hares off at night (presumed stolen) and is found next morning with a traffic wardens leg clamped in its headlight jaws, Neil Morrisey procures the services of an eccentric catholic priest (Anthony Daniels, aka, C3PO!) who rides to his assistance on his Harley Davidson trike, armed with blessed throwing stars, garlic and stakes. This film also contains one of the best bar brawls committed to celluloid (it begins with a hells angel shooting a crossbow bolt into a pint of Strongbow).

4: The Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn

You should know this one.

5: Killer Klowns From Outers Space

It really is all in the title. Insane clowns come from outer space, wrap people up like candy floss and suck out their innards. It really is that simple folks.

Runners up:

Chopper Chicks in Zombie Town: Undertaker resurrects corpses as zombies by implanting batteries in their heads so he can use them as slave labour in his secret uranium mine. Luckily, an all-girl biker gang and some blind children with uzis team up to save the day.

Hard Rock Zombies: Undead rock band must battle Hitler and his werewolf spawn.

Surf Nazis Must Die: Perhaps not strictly a horror movie, but I don't know what the fuck else to call it. This one is best explained by its poster:

(https://buy.tromamovies.com/images/TR9820-fs.jpg)

Revenant: At the climax of this film, the Bloods, who have been turned into vampires by gang-raping a vampire chick, fight Draculas vampire mafia in a vampire S&M club where people in gimp suits with IVs serve as optics bottles behind the bar. Might be funnier if it wasn't played as a comedy. Still fucking hilarious. Great opening as well.

Beware! Children at Play: Have you ever wanted to see a cannibalistic child get a pitchfork shoved through his neck? Well, I have a film for you...possibly the most pointlessly offensive thing Troma have ever released, and that says a lot.

...and countless others. Really, these are probably the best sort of horror movies.
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Post by: TheBoredOne on 14 Jun 2007, 12:19
I remember Killer Clowns from Outer Space! Haha!

Oh man, what about It?

I'm sure that movie is a source of many a clown phobia.
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Post by: Emaline on 14 Jun 2007, 12:29
I love love love Killer Klowns From Outspace! The theme song is great. It's going to be stuck in my head all day now.



And by all means, my list was not a rating or my absolute favorites(except where noted). It was just a few that popped in my head.



As for cheesy horror, let me go up stairs and look at my collection. I know we have such greats as Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes! and Dead and Breakfast.


Also, it's not really horror, but it's close. Has anyone ever heard of the cheesy sci-fi classic The Lost Skeleton Of Cadavra!?
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Post by: Mikagon on 14 Jun 2007, 14:16
Thae scariest horror movie to me would have to be silent hill. That sounds kind of lame but it just disturbed me to no end and I couldn't sleep properly for weeks.
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Post by: Ozymandias on 14 Jun 2007, 14:30
Night of the Living Dead remains, to this day, the only movie that has ever genuinely scared me. LOVE IT.
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Post by: Inlander on 14 Jun 2007, 18:32
Oh man, what about It?

Any scariness in that film is absolutely squandered by the ending. Oh, I guess I should put one of these here:

SPOILER








Big scary monsters are not scary. Big scary monsters are, with a very few honourable exceptions (mainly the Alien movies and Jaws), usually incredibly lame. Having a creepy as hell clown turn out to just be another generic big scary monster is weak shit. Good horror should be all about suggestion; it should imply terror but rarely show it in the full light of day (which is why the Alien movies and Jaws are largely successful. Well, at least the first couple of Alien movies).
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Post by: Emaline on 14 Jun 2007, 19:02
I disagree. I think the fact that they showed Pennywise made it so much scarier. Remember that scene where he is in the sewer, heckling the kids or something? Yeah, that scared the life out of me for some reason. For years I could go near sewers. I was always so afraid he'd pop out, and pull me in, or I'd fall in and he'd be in there. I was scared of Pennywise.
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Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 14 Jun 2007, 19:06
Signs was pretty good until they showed the shitty-looking alien. He looked like Abe from Oddworld basically.

I'm not generally scared by horror films. Probably because the first movie I ever saw was The Exorcist and I must have watched it about 10 times before the age of 5. Now, I'm much more scared from the ideas and questions brought up in a film than the images depicted on-screen.

The Bad Seed (1956), The Omen (1976), and The Nanny (1965) all raise the question "What if your child was a psychotic murderer?", and that's scary cause I don't want my child to be a psychokiller  :-(

2001: A Space Oddysey (1968) made me realize how epicly fucking scary space is. From the possibility of floating away from your ship into nothingness foreverness, to that freaky mind trip upon entering Jupiter (the monolith?), and with that lengthy space sequence where all you could hear was the guy breathing from inside his helmet, I felt small and insecure by the end of the picture.

Off topic: I hate hate hate when a fucking cat jumps across screen or there's a loud bang after a long silence. That shit's cheap and I hate it...hate hate
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Post by: TheBoredOne on 14 Jun 2007, 20:25
6th Sense beats the hell out of Signs.
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Post by: Ozymandias on 14 Jun 2007, 21:11
Signs was pretty good until they showed the shitty-looking alien. He looked like Abe from Oddworld basically.


 :-o

I finally understand why everyone said that the aliens were scary and I wasn't even phased. I was waiting for them to say "follow me!" and then fart.
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Post by: Dimmukane on 14 Jun 2007, 21:12
Crazy horror movies:

Hide and Creep:  2,000$ or so budget, Zombie Lesbians, Zombies Are Afraid of the Dark
The Mad:  A zombie movie with Billy Zane about infected hamburger meat that turns people into zombies.  I wasn't expecting it to be so awesome.
2001 Maniacs:  Confederate Ghosts (led by John Englund) barbecue six roadtrippers.
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Post by: I is Grammar on 14 Jun 2007, 23:04
Oh man.  The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra was fantastic. 

The movie that scared me the worst was The Exorcist III.  It was very low key, but was very atmospheric.  I found it scarier than the first one.  I don't think the second one counts, because that was the one that sent William Peter Blatty into hiding after selling the rights to his novel.  After years of hiding, he came out and wrote Legion, the book on which Exorcist III was based.  It was amazing. 

It scared the hell out of me just because I already had a fear of clowns.  However, the ending ruined it for me. 

A Nightmare on Elm Street was disturbing because of the idea that the things in your nightmares really can get you.  The subsequent movies in the series were crap to me. 





     
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Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 14 Jun 2007, 23:37
Castle Freak was pretty scary when I saw it. I was pretty young though, so I don't know how it'd affect me now.
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Post by: Emaline on 14 Jun 2007, 23:58
Oh my god, you guys! Trilogy Of Terror!!! That one is amazing, and scared the shit out of me as a kid.
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Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 15 Jun 2007, 00:08
There's a sequel to that in case you didn't know  :x
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Post by: Emaline on 15 Jun 2007, 02:29
I know, but it's not quite as great as the first one.
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Post by: Inlander on 15 Jun 2007, 03:37
Quote from: Emaline & I is Grammar
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra

HAH! See, if this had been a thread about "most awesome horror movies (with an option on spoofs)" I would've mentioned that right away.

I'm kinda shocked that I'm not the only person here who's seen it. As far as I'm aware it screened in Australia at the Melbourne Film Festival a couple of years back, and that was it. Was it bigger overseas?
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Post by: Emaline on 15 Jun 2007, 04:08
I happened to see it while on a date. My date was also a horror/sci fi/cheesy movie freak.
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Post by: Inlander on 15 Jun 2007, 09:20
Did you resist the temptation to make Animala-style "Rawr" noises at your date?
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Post by: Ozymandias on 15 Jun 2007, 09:43
I'm kinda shocked that I'm not the only person here who's seen it. As far as I'm aware it screened in Australia at the Melbourne Film Festival a couple of years back, and that was it. Was it bigger overseas?

It has a pretty good DVD cult following in the states. I just recently showed it to all of my friends, who loved it immensely.

The Trail of the Screaming Forehead (http://www.screamingforehead.com/) premiered this month! It could mean important advances in the field of science.
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Post by: Emaline on 16 Jun 2007, 00:19
Did you resist the temptation to make Animala-style "Rawr" noises at your date?


You know, I just might have. I was pretty wasted. It was one of those "Let's go grab some 40s and watch bad movies" nights.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 16 Jun 2007, 03:48
Brain Dead

You forgot the best line in the whole film: "I kick arse for the Lord!"
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Post by: LeeZion on 16 Jun 2007, 11:57
Since the original question is, "What is the scariest film ever made?" I have to mention these, which have nothing to do with horror.  But the only films that ever truly scared me were NOT horror films.

Savage Nights. Or, in the original French, Les Nuits Fauves. Cyril Collard wrote the script, directed and stars as a man who knows he has AIDS, but sleeps around anyway, telling his male and female conquests only after the fact. One of the many things that made this film truly terrifying was that it was an autobiography — in real life, Cyril Collard had AIDS, and he probably lived what he portrayed on screen. He died a few months after the movie was released. I remember being shaken by this film that after it let out, because this could have happened to me, in one way or another. I called the girl I was dating at the time. But she wasn't in, and I had to go through the whole thing myself.

Safe. According to IMDb, there are several movies with this title. The one I'm talking about is the 1995 film starring Julianne Moore. She plays a woman who becomes extremely sensitive to common houshold chemicals, and her life falls apart. She goes for a perm, and it gives her a nosebleed. She has to carry an oxygen tank with her just to go to the dry cleaners. And it gets worse from there. What made this film horrifying was that it was real — people can and do develop multiple chemical sensitivity — unlike horror movies, where the thing we're supposed to be afraid of can't possibly exist once we leave the theater. The other thing that made the film horrifying is that there's no closure, no triumph, no catharsis. The film just ends.

Me and My Gal. Now how did a Hollywood musical end up on this list? A comedy starring Judy Garland and Gene Kelly? Well, I watched this film a few months ago. There's one scene where one character gets his hand caught in a door, and his fingers get crushed. I watched this film just after seeing a doctor for arthritis pain in my fingers, and the way that particular scene was shot, combined with the very real pain I was in at the time, jolted me way out of my comfort zone. Here I am, a fully grown adult, and for weeks afterward, I was terrified of doors. I would hold my hands close to my chest every time I walked through a door, just to make sure my fingers didn't get caught. Even now, just thinking about it ...

Returning to the horror genre, the best horror films I have seen were more unsettling than scary. The Sixth Sense. The Devil's Backbone. The Butterfly Effect. And The Blair Witch Project. The woman I saw it with, she was terrified — and made physically ill by the constantly moving camera. She couldn't even look, but the sounds got to her. She called it the best horror film she had never seen.
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Post by: Emaline on 16 Jun 2007, 12:32
When I first saw the Blair Witch Project, I was a kid. Maybe ten. I lived near a forest. In fact, it was right behind my house. It scared me, because of a combination of things.

First of all, I watched it at a slumber party with some friends. We were all in the living room. All of the sudden we hear this loud crashing noise, like a lot of glass breaking. We wander into my room to find out that all the shelves in my room have been knocked over. All of my stupid glass knick-knacks(including a fish tank) were destroyed. We had no idea how it could have happened. The door was closed. No one was in there. It had to have been the Blair Witch!(We later found out that someone had shut my cat in there. So, no witch)


Then, we're all trying to sleep. The lights are out, everyone is quiet. The whole house is silent. Except for this sound coming from outside that sounds like someone clapping two stones together(like they heard in the movie). The sounds continues until we make my dad go outside and see what it is. It turned out that it was squirrels throwing acorns on the porch.


So those two things, coupled with the fact that I lived right near a forest and as a kid often played in it, made the movie very scary. When I watch it now though, I tend to laugh at it's horrible cheesiness.

Did anyone play the computer games, though? Those were pretty sweet.
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Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 16 Jun 2007, 12:41
When I first saw the Blair Witch Project, I was a kid. Maybe ten. I lived near a forest. In fact, it was right behind my house. It scared me, because of a combination of things.

Whoa! Same for me but I think I was 9.

The night I first saw it, I woke up feeling sick. The kind of sick where you lie in bed just hallucinating crazy shit. I got up out of my bed to get some water and, in the dark corner of my room, I saw a robed figure with what looked like hair covering its face...just staring at me. In the corner of my room. I ran to the light switch and could see that it was only my coat rack. Still, robed figure, corner of room, holy fuck.

And yes I did try to play the games, but my computer froze after only a few minutes in. It had nice lighting though from the little bit I played  :|
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Post by: flippant on 16 Jun 2007, 15:09
The Shining, mostly because my sister snuck me in to see it in the theater when I was way too young to see such things  and it fucked me up for weeks.  Any other scary movie I've seen since is disturbing but not nearly as  scary, I think maybe if all the shit you have inside is scared out of you at one time, you can't create any more.

then again, that doesn't make since either, since I know I am full of shit.
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Post by: CmonMiracle on 16 Jun 2007, 16:30

Big scary monsters are not scary. Big scary monsters are, with a very few honourable exceptions (mainly the Alien movies and Jaws), usually incredibly lame. Having a creepy as hell clown turn out to just be another generic big scary monster is weak shit. Good horror should be all about suggestion; it should imply terror but rarely show it in the full light of day (which is why the Alien movies and Jaws are largely successful. Well, at least the first couple of Alien movies).

I agree to an extent. Big scary monsters don't really stay with me...I grew up in modern day, in surburbia. That's what scares me, just the suggestion of something weird going on in a picture perfect scene like that...You know, maybe serial killers lurking in their Mom's basement, cooking body parts up and such. Oh, also scary movies in office buildings...everyone's been in an office after everyone has left and the lights are all out. They can be pretty scary, with all the smoked glass windows and just rows and rows of desks. I guess what I'm trying to say is that monsters aren't scary, but mentally deranged people really are, because it's much more plausible.
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Post by: Will on 18 Jun 2007, 06:35
Serial Mom. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Mom)
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Post by: ALoveSupreme on 18 Jun 2007, 08:12
the scene where he is walking up a flight of stairs and he gets to the top and looks down the hall to his right and one of the rooms is open and inside is some dude sitting on the edge of a bed and there's a guy in a dog suit sitting at his feet. then they both look over at the camera or stand up or something. it's a really short scene but it's always freaked me out since i was a kid.
also; the naked old lady.

That scene always scared the piss out of me, too!!!  I never understood why, but it shot chills.

I haven't seen this one mentioned, but I always thought the Ring was pretty good, and I thought there were a ton of cool shots throughout.  The ending was really weak when the girl came out of the screen, but up to that point, I was fairly creeped out.
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Post by: onewheelwizzard on 18 Jun 2007, 09:02
How has this thread progressed to this point without a single mention of John Carpenter's The Thing?  It's not the scariest movie ever made by any stretch but it's one of the best horror films I've ever seen.  The blood-testing scene is absolutely perfect.
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Post by: Cartilage Head on 18 Jun 2007, 16:03
 David Lynch is pretty much the best "horror" director out there.
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Post by: Inlander on 18 Jun 2007, 23:18
I always thought the Ring was pretty good, and I thought there were a ton of cool shots throughout.  The ending was really weak when the girl came out of the screen, but up to that point, I was fairly creeped out.

Are you talking about the Japanese original, or the American remake? I've only seen the Japanese one, and the bit where the girl came out of the screen was the only bit I found scary. Freaked the shit out of me.
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Post by: ALoveSupreme on 19 Jun 2007, 07:45
I only saw the American one, I wanted to see the Japanese version for a little while after seeing the remake.  I would bet that the execution of that particular scene was just not as good in the US one.
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Post by: Blyss on 19 Jun 2007, 08:20
My mother took me to the movies with her when I was a kid.

At 3 she took me to see Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Yes the original, I'm that old).  And at 5 she took me to see Jaws.

I was terrified at both on a level that was never equaled again.  Though I will say that Halloween 2 scared the bejesus out of me when I was 12.  Michael Myers was a scary MF - period.

As for cheesy - I enjoy them immensely.
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Post by: 0bsessions on 19 Jun 2007, 08:48
I've never been outright scared by a movie. I don't watch horror movies often, but a couple times I was scared in the aftermath of watching a movie.

The Ring only scared me due to circumstance. I was working at a Circuit City Express (Basically a mall boutique version of the chain) and the mall was absolutely dead. The assistant manager decided the three of us working should watch the Ring on the big screen at the front of the store. I decided to be a dick and went out back to "go to the bathroom." I called the store with my cell phone to pull the whole "seven days" shit (Which worked a little, as the A.M. didn't know I had a cell phone). My manager was pissed off that I freaked him out so bad, so he elected me for trash duty that night. I get a little freaked out by silence (Part of why I enjoy living in the city) and it was about the most quiet night I'd ever taken trash out on. The problem arose on my way back into the building, walking up the stairs I tripped on a step and before I could catch myself, the ring I wore was knocked off my hand, rolled for a second and then just dropped right in front of me, almost mockingly. Suffice to say, after watching a movie focusing around the line "they say you see the ring before you die," this incident was rather unnerving.

I watched the Grudge for the first time while I had a live-in girlfriend. She was a big fan of horror flicks and talked me into watching it. Later that night, I was woken up by our pitbull growling at something. My girlfriend seemed to be fast asleep and I'd only ever seen our dog growl a handful of times. Then I heard the little gurgling sound from the aforementioned movie and was a bit freaked out for a minute. The girlfriend had set me up bad. She had waited until I went to sleep (I'm a heavy sleeper, but there are a few select things that will wake me up a bit) and started a CD she'd recorded the gurggling sound to and then blew one of those high pitched dog whistles to freak out the dog. She got a good laugh and I discovered that women are conniving beasts. I managed to get vindication when I found out she had an irrational fear of zombies and took advantage of that in the basement of the big-ass hotel she worked in.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 19 Jun 2007, 10:30
Thae scariest horror movie to me would have to be silent hill. That sounds kind of lame but it just disturbed me to no end and I couldn't sleep properly for weeks.

Silent Hill was pretty lame.  Some of the effects were cool, like when the darkness would fall, and that butcher dude, and all the weird stuff would happen.  Also, the treatment of the little girl, and the cult and stuff within the town that brought about Silent Hill's fate was pretty intriguing.  But it really wan't a scary movie.  That's coming from one of the most chicken shit dudes on the planet.

In all honesty, I have yet to see a movie that has scared the shit out of me.  The medium that has scared me the most in the horror genre I think would either be the novel The Amityville Horror or some of the creatures and scenery in Diablo II.  The atmosphere in that game, as well as the setting of Doom 3 creeps me out.  Being stuck on a super high tech space station with demons and shit everywhere, and all the equipment malfunctioning and people turning into zombies.  CREEPY.
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Post by: Dissy on 19 Jun 2007, 10:58
Kazaam-  Still haunts my nightmares... The Big Aristotle Acting...

I've seen most of the American and European horror movies listed here, and they were rather bland...  It was delicious.  Alien was a suspence movie, not a horror one.  The Ring was a frikken comedy fest.  I loved it.
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Post by: Lazer on 19 Jun 2007, 11:49
28 Days Later is probably my favorite horror movie. It didn't really cheap scare me much, but it made me very very depressed and I really didn't want to be by myself after watching it for a very long time because it was fukken creepy. :<
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Post by: Inlander on 19 Jun 2007, 18:24
Alien was a suspence movie, not a horror one.

I would argue that a good horror film has a heavy element of suspense.
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Post by: Emaline on 19 Jun 2007, 18:43
I agree with Inlander. And Dissy, did you just ignore my posts completely?
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Post by: imapiratearg on 19 Jun 2007, 20:03
Yes, they do.

I just saw The Hills Have Eyes tonight.  It left a lot to be desired.
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Post by: fish across face on 19 Jun 2007, 23:52
The remake?
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Post by: Will on 20 Jun 2007, 07:12
I really, really wish that Silent Hill hadn't been made as a video game-to-movie port. I thought that the movie itself, as a standalone, was not all that bad. It had some really cool visual moments - the scenes where the ash is falling like snow is, in my opinion, quite beautiful - and the acting wasn't all that bad. If it had JUST been a movie, or even a movie inspired by the game, I think it would have worked. Instead, it tried to be a movie adaptation of the game, and of course did not succeed.
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Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2007, 10:31
I never played Silent Hill, but I really enjoyed the effects in the movie. I wasn't scared while watching, more like intrigued by how awesome the creepy things were, especially the guy with the triangular helmet head with the chain. He was awesome.

But then again, I guess I have problems with scary movies. I usually end up really liking them. Slashers are pretty sucky, though, I was never a fan of those. I prefer good ghost stories, thrillers, and religious-type horror movies.

Favorites are: Alien and Aliens (not so much the other two, but these two are amazing), The Shining (omg AWESOME), Silence of the Lambs (probably on my top 10 favorite movies of all time), Se7en, The Exorcist (for the time period, the effects are pretty sweet), IT (probably why I think clowns are creepy and this was the first movie that ever really did scare me, because I saw it when I was around 7 or 8?), and Rosemary's Baby (classic). I own all of those except The Exorcist and IT and watch them several times throughout the year. But yes, scary movies are good movies when made very well.
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Post by: Ravenbomb on 20 Jun 2007, 10:52
Scariest in general: Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills


Scariest horror movie: Audition nowadays, but the time I've been most scared by a movie was when I first saw Halloween.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 20 Jun 2007, 11:44
The remake?

It's a remake?  I know it's based on the Wes Craven novel.
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Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2007, 13:03
Fish meant the one that came out recently is a remake of the 1977 film that Wes Craven directed. As far as I know, Craven doesn't write novels, but he does write movies.

And Last House on the Left is a good scary movie, too.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 20 Jun 2007, 13:05
Really?  In which case, yes, the remake.
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Post by: fish across face on 20 Jun 2007, 16:36
Yeah, friends who are horror fans swear by most of those early Craven flicks, which is why I wanted to check.  They get a lot of props for their unmitigated brutality (see Khar's comments re: The Last House On The Left, which is chiefly just one big torture scene), so I've never had the urge to watch any of them.
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Post by: Dissy on 20 Jun 2007, 16:44
Alien was a suspence movie, not a horror one.

I would argue that a good horror film has a heavy element of suspense.

And I would argue that there is a big difference between suspence and horror suspence.  

For Example:  The Sixth Sense (It bulds, and builds, and builds, then Bruce Willis is a ghost!) compared to any generic horror movie (it's quiet... too quiet... Blargh!  Monster attacks)

I agree with Inlander. And Dissy, did you just ignore my posts completely?

I read 'em...  I haven't seen many Asian horror movies.  28 Days Later and the Blair Witch Project were rather bland.  And I will admit to never seeing The Evil Dead movies.
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Post by: sparl on 20 Jun 2007, 17:22
David Cronenberg has created quite a few spin tingling moments.
A big What the Fuck was always in my head when I saw Videodrome.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CNK4IH4hNwk (http://youtube.com/watch?v=CNK4IH4hNwk)

also, I think "The Thing" ranks about even with Alien as the best creature feature.

spoilers
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8X-HUqjS3YU&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8X-HUqjS3YU&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mk_TEbr7IGU&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mk_TEbr7IGU&mode=related&search=)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=a7Q-5VSqzEk&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=a7Q-5VSqzEk&mode=related&search=)
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Post by: fish across face on 20 Jun 2007, 17:39
For Example:  The Sixth Sense (It bulds, and builds, and builds, then Bruce Willis is a ghost!) compared to any generic horror movie (it's quiet... too quiet... Blargh!  Monster attacks)
So which of these examples do you think Alien is closer to?
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Post by: Cartilage Head on 20 Jun 2007, 18:10
BLAARRRGGH.
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Post by: Liz on 20 Jun 2007, 18:57
I remember watching House on Haunted Hill when I was 12 or so and it scared the crap out of me. I had nightmares for weeks after that.

Otherwise, I haven't been truly scared by a horror movie since then. All they do in that type of movie now is make it really, really gruesome and call it horror. That stuff doesn't scare me, it grosses me out. All I want is a good, non-gory movie that messes with your mind and makes you afraid to sleep at night. Is that too much to ask for?
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Post by: Emaline on 20 Jun 2007, 22:42
Oh man, the original House on Haunted Hill was the best. I loved that movie. I still quote it to this day.


Dissy, why don't you give us some other examples, and list a few other movies you like, and why?
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Post by: Faker on 21 Jun 2007, 04:58
There's Something About Mary - The zipper scene is cinematic terror in its purist form
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Post by: imapiratearg on 21 Jun 2007, 05:53
You know, the movies that messed with my head the most haven't been horror movies.  But stuff like The Matrix, for example, that make you question reality.  Or movies that my paranoias and fears are portrayed.  But isn't that the intent of a good horror/suspense movie?
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Post by: Mikagon on 21 Jun 2007, 12:17
I really, really wish that Silent Hill hadn't been made as a video game-to-movie port. I thought that the movie itself, as a standalone, was not all that bad. It had some really cool visual moments - the scenes where the ash is falling like snow is, in my opinion, quite beautiful - and the acting wasn't all that bad. If it had JUST been a movie, or even a movie inspired by the game, I think it would have worked. Instead, it tried to be a movie adaptation of the game, and of course did not succeed.
I never played Silent Hill, but I really enjoyed the effects in the movie. I wasn't scared while watching, more like intrigued by how awesome the creepy things were, especially the guy with the triangular helmet head with the chain. He was awesome.

The movie scared me/disturbed me because of the visual effects. I can't get the scene out of my head where she's running through the area with all the chain fences and she comes upon a person on a cross but they're still alive and they have these horrific eyes. Then all the weird children creatures start chasing her, she falls, and wakes up in silent hill (the creepy version of it). Those eyes just creep me out. A lot. As well as other various things in the movie. Although I did find it funny when the man who was tangled up in all the barbed wire started trying to come after her. It was just too ridiculous to take seriously.
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Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 21 Jun 2007, 22:06
David Lynch is pretty much the best "horror" director out there.

I second that motion.

All the ones that emptied my bowells have been pretty much mentioned- the shining, night of the living dead, don't look now etc.

I'm a big fan of Edward D Wood Jr.'s films- i've seen all his classics. I find them pretty creepy.

It's not a horror but the orignal Vanishing (not the American remake piece of shite) has given me consistant nightmares for years.

And Korean film's... wheher horror or not are FUCKED UP.
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Post by: Dimmukane on 23 Jun 2007, 21:24
Kazaam

When I was seven, this movie made me cry.  I thought Shaquille O'Neal died, and broke down.  Have never cried for any other movie.  True story.
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Post by: Motherfirefly on 26 Jun 2007, 08:42
The first movie that made me cry was Mighty Joe Young when the Gorilla "dies".

Also the movies that scared me the most are The Shining, The Original Omen, and Nightmare on Elm Street. My mother didn't want to let me see the new remake of the Texas Chainsaw massacre when it came out (I think I was like, 12). So she was like..."you want scary, watch these!".

Needless to say after seeing Nightmare on Elm Street I was afraid to sleep for weeks.
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Post by: Lines on 26 Jun 2007, 18:06
And I would argue that there is a big difference between suspence and horror suspence. 

You thought Alien and Aliens were suspense movies? Well there is the whole "where'd it go" thing and who's chest will it pop out next, but then, bam, there is a tail popping out of your chest, which then tears you in half, or one of them rips your face off. It's more horror action sci-fi then horror suspense. Besides, Aliens is the proud owner of the greatest cat fight ever.

And I forgot to mention the original The Omen earlier. Good good good movie. Have not seen the remake, though, and probably won't.
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Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jun 2007, 19:48
it's "suspense" god damn it
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Post by: Dissy on 27 Jun 2007, 18:22
And I would argue that there is a big difference between suspence and horror suspence. 

You thought Alien and Aliens were suspense movies? Well there is the whole "where'd it go" thing and who's chest will it pop out next, but then, bam, there is a tail popping out of your chest, which then tears you in half, or one of them rips your face off. It's more horror action sci-fi then horror suspense. Besides, Aliens is the proud owner of the greatest cat fight ever.

And I forgot to mention the original The Omen earlier. Good good good movie. Have not seen the remake, though, and probably won't.

No, Aliens was a sci-fi horror action flick.  Alien was a sci-fi suspence action flick. 

Alien wasn't scary at all.  Much like Independence Day wasn't scary.  I will admit to jumping the first few times I saw the chest popping thing, much like the "suit" opening in ID4.

For Example:  The Sixth Sense (It bulds, and builds, and builds, then Bruce Willis is a ghost!) compared to any generic horror movie (it's quiet... too quiet... Blargh!  Monster attacks)
So which of these examples do you think Alien is closer to?

6th Sense-ish, but personally I would say closer to ID4.

This being said, I have realized I haven't seen Alien in over a decade.  I'll rent it this weekend, or the next and re-evaluate my assesment.
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Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 27 Jun 2007, 18:35
Man, alien scared the shit out of me. I thought aliens was complete shit.

Cabinet of dr. Caligari, there is a scary ass movie- i always find the old silent movies creepy, the orignal Nosferatu, or at least the first half hour is fucked up.
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Post by: Felix_ on 28 Jun 2007, 02:23
Honorable mention for John Carpenter's 'The Thing'.
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Post by: HellPuppi on 02 Jul 2007, 22:02
Well 'best' has an odd qualification.
The Ring scared the crap out of me, but my mom was laughing next to me, so I guess it depends on what disturbs you.

I liked Silent Hill because some of the things really disturbed me, not so much scared me, but just kinda followed  me. What happened to the little girl, for instance. I also liked the notion of being in hell and not really knowing it. Would I recommend it to people? No, prolly not. I would recommend the games, however.

Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead and several others, awesome!

Films I've been wanting to see: Tale of Two Sisters, The Devil's Backbone and most of the masters of horror. I know someone mentioned the tale of two sisters earlier, but has anyone else seen the others?

I don't think Old Boy counts as horror....


Well damn I really don't know what the best would be.

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Post by: xero on 04 Jul 2007, 14:46
Thirteen (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328538/).

I know that sounds like a joke, but hear me out: I had a teenage sister. I will have one again in two years. The movie hits too close to home for it to not bring shivers and bad memories. And then there's the Holly Hunter nude scene. :shudder:
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Post by: CookedHaggis on 04 Jul 2007, 15:14
Inland Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire_(film)) scared the living shit out of me, even in the cinema.

I doubt I could have watched it alone for the first time.

So it's not just me, phew.  I love Lynch, but he just has this knack of making every single freakin' scene trip-wire tense even though there's no especially obvious reason for it.  I shat myself at a door opening.  And it wasn't even a scary door; we're talking bog-standard suburban painted-wood and handle effort here.  Moment of Mulholland Dr. had the same effect (behind the diner anyone) the first time around.  This all reminds me: I've really gotta see Inland Empire again.  Then again.  Then perhaps read about it on the internet before watching it once more.  Lynch is like an abusive partner you can't live without.
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Post by: Emaline on 05 Jul 2007, 08:57
This weekend I saw pretty much one of the greatest horror films ever. Well, it wasn't that good. But it is something I am going to force all of my friends to watch. I present to you....

Sleepaway Camp!!!

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MG/193696~Sleepaway-Camp-Posters.jpg)

This movie freaking rocks. It's not really scary until the end which did freak me out(because it is so incredibly fucked), but it's very cheesy. It was made in freaking 1983. That says it all right there.

Spoiler alert! I'm pretty much going to detail much of the movie here. Scroll past my post if you don't want to read them.

Ok, so this movie is about this girl, Angela. During a tragic boating accident, her family is killed. She goes to live with her cousin's family. His mom sends them both off to sleepaway camp, where she talks to no one and becomes an outcast. Finally, her cousin's friend starts talking to her, and the two become a couple. They are pretty much the greatest teenage/pre-teen couple ever. He's always trying to feel her up, and she's always pushing him off. It's hilarious.

Anyway, everyone else(kids, and counselors) at camp is mean to her. They throw her in the water, throw water balloons at her, and pretty much make her camp life hell, but she gets revenge, as soon all her tormentors end up dying. A chef is pushed into a boiling pot of water, a counselor is stabbed while showering, a camper is stung to death by bees while shitting, a girl has her hot curling iron stuffed up her vag. The deaths are great, however no one knows who is doing it. The head counselor is sure it's her cousin. We soon learn he is wrong when he struggles with the cousin, knocking him unconscious, and is then killed while the boy remains asleep.

Around this time, Angela asks her boyfriend to meet her on the beach for a little peer-pressure induced sex(he calls her a prude, and then makes out with another girl). He meets her there, and she has him take off his clothes. We a cut to a different scene before we get to see anything happen. In this scene everyone is running around, gathering campers, because the killer is on a killing spree that night(I believe 4 people were killed that night, as opposed to the one a day). Two counselors run to the beach where the discover a naked Angela sitting with her back turned to us, and her boyfriend laying on the ground in front of her, his head in her lap. They call to her, and she stands up. Her boyfriend's bloodied severed head rolls from her lapon on to the ground. Angela turns around, growling, and we discover her secret. Angela is a boy! A strange, creepy, sharped tooth, monkey boy.

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Post by: philosopherqueen on 05 Jul 2007, 11:08
wtf? that is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard.
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Post by: Cartilage Head on 05 Jul 2007, 11:18
 Hot curling iron stuffed up the vag.