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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: Emaline on 20 Aug 2007, 00:23
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http://www.definitive200.com/200_list.php
These people are so fucking stupid. I just can't fucking believe this list. How did Norah fucking Jones(who I do like) beat Aretha Franklin? Why is there only one Rush album on this list, and why is it number 198??? The fucking Grease soundtrack beat Rush. WTF. Do people really need the Grease soundtrack? How did Will Smith beat fucking Rush? This list is all kinda of fucked. Just fucking fucked.
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it isn't friday
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No. It's fucking fuck you Monday. Fuck you.
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Rush Fucking Sucks
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Even if you don't like Rush, you can still agree that they need to be on there more. They are pretty influential. But it's not just the Rush shit that has me all pissed off.
Name me one reason why Will Smith should be on there.
How the fuck did Coldplay fucking beat out the fucking Clash???
Why is Dave Mattews band on there, and how did they fucking beat David Bowie?
Why are there two Green Day albums on there?
Why the fuck is Kenny fucking G on there?
Of all the soundtracks, why is there no Rocky Horror Picture show on there?
No Lou Reed. No Velvet Underground. No Smiths. No Flaming Lips.
This list of "Definitive" music, this list of albums you must have to complete your collection is sadly lacking.
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I stopped reading that when I saw that an Outkast album beat Appetite for Destruction.
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Rush Fucking Sucks
Emilio, I know that you are an Awesome Dude with tastes in music, but we cannot be friends any more unless you take back that statement.
Emaline, I wouldn't worry so much, its obvious that the was some sort of error in the production of this list, maybe they were extremely drunk or something, because Revolver is not number one, and actually below the White album.
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They really need to just retire Sgt. Pepper's from these friggin' lists already.
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Why is Dave Mattews band on there, and how did they fucking beat David Bowie?
Of all the soundtracks, why is there no Rocky Horror Picture show on there?
DMB is better than David bowie and RHPS is not nearly that great a soundtrack, hardly essential my any measure worth thinking about.
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Why is Dave Mattews band on there, and how did they fucking beat David Bowie?
Of all the soundtracks, why is there no Rocky Horror Picture show on there?
DMB is better than David bowie and RHPS is not nearly that great a soundtrack, hardly essential my any measure worth thinking about.
dude as bad as bowie can get you can't say that ziggy stardust can probably trump the whole of DMB discography
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Avril Lavigne beat The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust ??
W. T. F??!
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Just out of interest, dude who seems to really like David Bowie but who's name I didn't actually read, have you noticed that no-one else has images in their signatures? If you have, have you thought at any point that it's a little odd that no-one has them and maybe that made you feel a little uncomfortable?
I'm not trying to be rude, but trying to get in a question that's bothered me every time I see someone new with an image in their signature. We tend not to appreciate them here as they clutter up the otherwise usually neat boards.
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Just out of interest, dude who seems to really like David Bowie but who's name I didn't actually read, have you noticed that no-one else has images in their signatures? If you have, have you thought at any point that it's a little odd that no-one has them and maybe that made you feel a little uncomfortable?
I'm not trying to be rude, but trying to get in a question that's bothered me every time I see someone new with an image in their signature. We tend not to appreciate them here as they clutter up the otherwise usually neat boards.
Someone mentioned that to me
I just thought they didn't like Bowie :)
Thanks, I didn't know.
And I'm a girl, btw.
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All I can say is that it's pretty goddamn hilarious that Rolling Stone puts Jimi Hendrix as the #1 Guitarist Of All Time, and "Are You Experienced?" gets relegated to #33 (after Def Leppard and the Dixie Chicks no less).
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Rush Fucking Sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9d1u5nM9uM
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It's based primarily on album sales.
Now let's all take a deep collective "duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh."
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Guys, I got up this morning and the sky was this weird colour -
(http://php.scripts.psu.edu/dept/iit/hbg/philanthropy/Images/BlueSkyLarge.jpg)
That's nothing, the other day I saw a bear shit in the woods.
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In all seriousness, Rush has been ruined for me. My old roommate (who sucked beyond belief) was absolutely in love with Rush. It was his favorite band ever and he would play it all the time. I can't even tell you if they are talented are not, every time I hear them I'm filled with such intense contempt that I can only view them as one of my least favorite bands.
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Double Nickels On The Dime should be on there too, but it's not. I guess that's just the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for you. Do you also get mad at Rolling Stone, Emaline?
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Guys, I got up this morning and the sky was this weird colour -
(http://blue sky)
That's nothing, the other day I saw a bear shit in the woods.
Once, I was walking in the woods, and a tree fell right in front of me and I didn't even hear it.
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Rush Fucking Sucks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9d1u5nM9uM
I suggest pretty much every Rush fan in the world sue Fox over that..
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This brings to mind the Top 100 guitarists thread (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,15229.0.html).
Man that list sucked.
Back on topic it ranks the Black Album 14th then Master of Puppets 75th? WTF?
It is possible that this list is ranked on album sales...I know the top three are amongst the highest selling albums of all time. In saying that I thought Thriller was number 1 so idk.
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See, you are upset that other people think differently from you, it's ok that you think different, ion fact, it's great! Specially when you think differently from something as absurd as the rock and roll hall of fame. as others have pointed out, the fact that this list will be shit is aboutas surprising as the sky being blue or a bear shitting in the woods. I'd suggest you rethink your life if you are upset by how they arranged a list of music albums. You could also just look at the list and have a giggle, I looked at the top ten and there is really only one album there i'd consider top ten, and only other one i'd put on a top 50, it's pointless for me to get upset when i obviously have a completely different thinking than them.
Now, (responses in red)
Even if you don't like Rush, you can still agree that they need to be on there more. They are pretty influential. But it's not just the Rush shit that has me all pissed off.
I think Rush is a fantastically boring band with one of the blandest outputs i've ever listened to. I would not only not agree on them being more represented, but i would be perfectly content with them not existing at all.
Name me one reason why Will Smith should be on there.
I don't think will smith should be there, although the theme from the fresh prince is infinitely better than anything Rush or Metallica or Santana or Pearl Jam or U2 or AC/DC or The Grateful Dead (who are all top 20 there) have ever done.
How the fuck did Coldplay fucking beat out the fucking Clash???
Coldplay is probably more appealing to the sort of people who would read this list
Why is Dave Mattews band on there, and how did they fucking beat David Bowie?
see above
Why are there two Green Day albums on there?
They must be very popular with the people who care about these things
Why the fuck is Kenny fucking G on there?
see above
Of all the soundtracks, why is there no Rocky Horror Picture show on there?
I don't think that soundtrack is very good, it is funny in a ktischy way, but i would not say it is essential in any way. I'd instead protest the absence of Paris, Texas' soundtrack by Ry Cooder, and so many other fantastic western soundtracks
No Lou Reed. No Velvet Underground. No Smiths. No Flaming Lips.
The R&R Hall Of Fame's target audience doesn't care about these bands.
This list of "Definitive" music, this list of albums you must have to complete your collection is sadly lacking.
Complaining about this is like compleining Duplo doesn't have as many cool pieces and accesories as Lego
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I searched almost all of my favorite bands, and only two albums came up (Radiohead's OK Computer, #111, Smashing Pumpkins's Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, #149).
Based on my taste, this list fails.
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Emilio, I am going to go cry in a darkened room for sixty years now.
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Emilio, the blinding red hurts my face, so I didn't even attempt to read much past the first response. I should probably point out that I was pretty drunk when I posted this thread(as evidenced by the IT'S FRIDAY thread), so the cussing is due in part to that. I'm not so upset that I am going to storm the building, or even write an angry letter, just annoyed enough to bitch. I don't think I need to rethink anything. I just think you need to rethink listening to Rush.
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I've listened to a lot of Rush. My friends were 15 once.
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Could you please explain "The Rush Defence" so that I can soundly trounce my brother any time he brings up Rush?
Emaline, I spent an entire trip in California switching between the two-disc Rush greatest hits comp and the Police's two-disc collection of the same. I can firmly say that I gave Rush multiple listens and still did not like it.
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Rush are pretty much awful. The Rush Defense (Defence? Is that a British spelling?), I believe, is when people defend a band's artistic merit by pointing out how technically skilled the musicians are.
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Might as well be called the Steve Vai defense (that's real American spelling, right there) because, aside from maybe his work with Zappa, Vai hasn't made anything really worth listening to. Which is a shame, because the motherfucker knows how to play a guitar.
Wait, what was this thread about?
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For anyone who thinks that Neal Peart is the best drummer ever - listen to him trying to swing on Burning for Buddy.
"Oh shit! I don't have 42 toms and cymbals to make my fills sound different. Whoa, whoa... WHO TOOK MY XYLOPHONE?!"
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aside from maybe his work with Zappa, Vai hasn't made anything really worth listening to.
Therefore, Rush are more prolific than Vai, and thus more suited to bear the name of the aphorism.
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Might as well be called the Steve Vai defense (that's real American spelling, right there) because, aside from maybe his work with Zappa, Vai hasn't made anything really worth listening to. Which is a shame, because the motherfucker knows how to play a guitar.
Passion and Warfare proves this assertion extremely false.
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I'm not gonna bother with the rankings of most of the bands up there because, as stated before, most people on these boards are NOT their target audience. There is one glaring error though... Kenny G? Kenny G does not rock, nor roll, nor swing, nor groove. Just thinking about him makes me gag a little bit. Oh god, the hair.
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Complaining about this is like compleining Duplo doesn't have as many cool pieces and accesories as Lego
I want to put this in my signature in a way that makes sense standing alone. Emilio, can you make it happen?
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YYZ is a fun song on guitar hero?
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Therefore, Rush are more prolific than Vai, and thus more suited to bear the name of the biggest wankfest
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None of you are invited to my 2112 themed birthday party.
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Man why stop at a party? I live my life by a 2112 theme, also with elements of moving pictures added in.
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They really need to just retire Sgt. Pepper's from these friggin' lists already.
since it is the best Beatles album, i disagree.
also, rush is cool, but i probably wouldn't put them on any list i made. it's all about the preference of who ever is making the list.
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See, the thing is. Abbey Road is the best Beatles album and Revolver is really really close, and then there is probably The Beatles and Rubber Soul.
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See, the thing is. Abbey Road is the best Beatles album and Revolver is really really close, and then there is probably The Beatles and Rubber Soul.
Agreed. Except I prefer The White Album to Rubber Soul or The Beatles.
I just hate how Sgt. Pepper's is just automatically either number 1 or number 2 in every friggin' stupid list of "Most __ albums." If one more person tells me that it's the greatest album of all time they're getting punched in the face.
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And I'm a girl, btw.
'Dude' is a non-gender-specific term. I did actually read your username after I posted, and thought 'hehe, like Tatyana Banana from that comic no-one else read, hehe. She's probably gonna call me out on referring to her as dude. Oh man I wonder where that comic went... (two hours wasted)'
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Agreed. Except I prefer The White Album to Rubber Soul or The Beatles.
I just hate how Sgt. Pepper's is just automatically either number 1 or number 2 in every friggin' stupid list of "Most __ albums." If one more person tells me that it's the greatest album of all time they're getting punched in the face.
The Beatles = The White Album
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Revolver is the best Beatles album, guys. Anyone who says otherwise is spreading filthy lies.
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People: buy this book (http://www.amazon.com/Its-Not-News-Fark-Media/dp/1592402917/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-6245065-3872718?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187734538&sr=8-1), read the chapter on lists, then get back to me.
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Revolver is the best Beatles album, guys. Anyone who says otherwise is spreading filthy lies.
I quite agree.
...now, why the hell is Avril Lavigne even on that list? It doesn't make sense to me.
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Because the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is shit. The architecture of the building is even lame. The same architect as the Louvre? please. It just doesn't fit anything about Rock at all. It is now, and was from its inception a history written from the wrong vantage point.
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the best beatles album is revolver guys, this is fact and fact cannot be debated
their self-titled was really good and would probably have taken first place for including the best song they have ever written except it had a lot of pretty unremarkable stuff too. it probably would have worked better had they trimmed it down and made it one disc (record?) instead of two.
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'Rain' was not on The Beatles, silly eff.
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Are you sure you meant that, and not The Village Green Preservation Society instead?
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I love how every time one of these awful 'top x' lists comes out it's considered newsworthy that no one actually agrees with it.
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GUYS I AM EDGY BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH A MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET ON WHICH ALBUMS I CONSIDER NOTABLE.
AREN'T I EDGY?
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Edgier than the line separating a given surface from its environment.
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Edgier than the line segment where two faces of a polyhedron meet.
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Nerd.
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Edgier than a sharpened penis.
WAIT
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Guys you are really ruining my planned trip up to (edit CLEVELAND SORRY.) for the Hall of Fame coming up soon, I DO NOT WANT TO SECOND THINK ANY ROAD TRIP SO PLZ START SAYING NICE THINGS KTHX. I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE FILTHY LIES, JUST SAY IT ANYWAYS.
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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame fucked your mom.
But in a good way.
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Kind of like how your dad did it?
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Extremely inebriated?
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Complete and utter lack of any Faith No More albums = fail
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Mike Patton's not god, you know.
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Harry making a post not relating to The Wire?
I call shenanigans!
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I am glad we stopped talking about how much you all hate Rush, and instead started talking about how much you all like Revolver. You are all invited to my 2112 themed birthday party again.
Oh god this is a horrible cycle.
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WE ARE THE PRIESTS
OF THE TEMPLES
OF SYRINX
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Mike Patton's not god, you know.
...you've been reading my blog.
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a carol king album, a michael jackson album, and a u2 album above pet sounds?! i dont think so
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Just because Carol King and U2 are dreadful doesn't exclude the fact that the Beach Boys were awful.
F+ To the rock and roll hall of fame.
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the Beach Boys were awful
hey dude what the fuck
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I can't believe that the new Animal Collective album that hasn't even come out yet isn't on the list.
Geez.
If I don't get to live in a world free of people with bad music taste who choose what is "essential" then I just don't want to live.
Goodbye, cruel DMB infested world.
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the Beach Boys were awful
Dude, fucking, Pet sounds!
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To quote Wayne Campbell:
"Led Zep didn't write tunes that everyone liked; they left that to the Beachies."
So at the very best the Beachies are proto-pop. Which still isn't good.
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Yeah I bet writing music that large numbers of people enjoy is a horrible fate for a musician to endure.
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I heard this band, The Beatles, wrote some pop songs as well. They must have sucked pretty terribly.
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The architecture of the building is even lame. The same architect as the Louvre? please.
Whaaaaaaat?
Also, I have absolutely no problem with Pet Sounds.
Also, even though we aren't talking about it anymore, Revolver is the best.
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Did someone mention Rolling Stone earlier on? I just read their "Top 500 albums of all time."
I actually saw a Hole album included on the same list as Nirvana.
Isn't that supposed to initiate a catastrophic disturbance in the fabric of space/time?
Also Sgt. Pepper's was number one.
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Find me a popular list of the same calibur (rating albums of all time) that DOESN'T have Sgt. Peppers at the top and I won't punch you in the dick. Seriously.
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Actually why don't we call this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame list "The Complete Dixie Chicks Discography and a Bunch of Other Music?"
Also, why has no one mentioned "Hard Day's Night?"
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The only major thing about Hard Day's Night is that the film of the same name showed The Byrds how to become "rock stars".
(Edit: Don't take that as a negative thing, I like the album, but it is not the best. I don't consider it in the Top 5 Beatles albums, either.)
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The one thing I don't understand about this list is the complete lack of Chuck Berry. If something is supposed to be "The Definitive 200" why is there nothing by the founder of the goddamn genre?
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To quote Wayne Campbell:
"Led Zep didn't write tunes that everyone liked; they left that to the Beachies."
So at the very best the Beachies are proto-pop. Which still isn't good.
Dude, I'm pretty certain pop music existed before 1961.
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The only major thing about Hard Day's Night is that the film of the same name showed The Byrds how to become "rock stars".
(Edit: Don't take that as a negative thing, I like the album, but it is not the best. I don't consider it in the Top 5 Beatles albums, either.)
I find a lot of people agree. Everything before Rubber Soul (Or Help! if you want to be generous) wasn't that great. It wasn't that bad either, but not as shit hot as their later stuff.
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So I hear...
Beatles before drugs = generic rock/pop of the day
Beatles after drugs = phenominal and legendary
I think there's a lot to be said for a band that can make a good, straightforeward pop record.
I'd not repeat any of those things in front of my mother or anything though...
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So I hear...
Beatles before drugs
??? when was this?