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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: just-another-andy on 02 Dec 2007, 19:17
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I decided this poll had to be taken while I sit listening to Aeris' orchestral theme. Such a great song.
I played the game back when I was only about 10. As it stands, this changed my perspective on games in general. Before playing this I had only experienced the likes of Sonic, Mario etc. Games with a simplistic plotline and goal. The thought of a game with a complicated innovative storyline was absolutly crazy.
I may or may not be an FF fanboy. I don't exactly know what that entails and don't really care to be honest.
Love the series and will continue to buy/download the future incarnations (I guess that does make me a fanboy?)
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No.
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Thanks for the spoiler... Jerk. Now the whole story is ruined for me
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No, because I didn't particularly like the character of Aeris anyway.
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Thanks for the spoiler... Jerk. Now the whole story is ruined for me
You'd think that spoiled the storyline but that's misleading.
for too many reasons :-)
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No, when it happened, I was like 'Oh. A character in my party died. Oh well, she was kinda weak anyways.' They never really got me attached to any of the characters other than Sephiroth. I never was much a fan of the game either.
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no
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No. It surprised me that someone who was story wise quite prominent died, but she was kind of an annoying bitch anyways.
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I added another poll option for those of us who haven't played any of the Final Fantasy games. See if you can guess which one it is!
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I was all 'hey, I levelled her unlike most of the other characters!'
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No. It surprised me that someone who was story wise quite prominent died, but she was kind of an annoying bitch anyways.
yeah, she was kind of winey, why Cloud fell for her is beyond me. Besides she died because she left into the forest away from the rest of her frends against her freind's wishes. Good riddence.
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i am not a slathering Final Fantasy animu fanboy
so no
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What is this? 1999?
I probably haven't played the game since then.
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I laughed, actually. Fucking despised that game, as well as most every character in it.
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Nope, but I was fairly close in Baldur's Gate II when you find that guy and that thing has happened to him fairly early in the story and that other woman in my party is not very happy about it.
Que? You're talking about Jaheira and the wraith lord or whatever?
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What has two thumbs and never played Final Fantasy VII?
This guy.
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What has two thumbs and never played Final Fantasy VII?
This guy.
Good. Don't. It's trash. Best left in a million pieces hurtling towards the sun, along with it's legions of raving fans.
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Presumably for basically the same reason that members of any apparent cultural minority (say, mac users, or people that dislike halo) develop a seething semi-rational hatred of whatever the popular item in opposition to their views is. The halo anti-fans are so shrill at this point that they have drowned out the halo fans on every forum I visit.
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Nope.
I was a bit :? about it, but rather than being sad, I more or less just sat there and prolonged the boss battle that followed because I liked the music.
Delicious, delicious video game music.
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I must have been about 10 at the time, yeah I cried. How old were you guys? That probably has a lot to do with it, you guys were old and desensitised before you played the game.
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I wanted Tifa to be my girlfriend....
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She was my healer, and saved my ass a few times early in.
I didn't cry, I was pissed I wasted my time leveling her up. I mean, what's the point of even showing that she has higher limit breaks if you can't use them past the first disk without cheating? That's retarded.
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I know exactly what you guys mean, and that's why I laughed my ass off when Aeris died (I never used her anyway). I had a friend who was obsessive about Aeris AND level grinding in rpgs; he would have been farther than me if it weren't for his bizarre need to be able to practically one shot every critter he ran across. Honestly, I never really understood the impulse; jrpgs are all about inventory management, when it comes down to it, and old school Dragon Warrior not withstanding, most don't even really require level grinding anymore provided that you're willing to use expendable items. Spending 20 hours grinding just to kill enemies 20 seconds faster just doesn't hit me as a fair trade off.
Also, in a related story, my brother got sick of being burned by secondary character death in RPGs so when we got ChronoTrigger he decided to be proactive and not spend Tabs on anyone but Crono. That was hilarious too, even if you do eventually get Crono back.
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Also, in a related story, my brother got sick of being burned by secondary character death in RPGs so when we got ChronoTrigger he decided to be proactive and not spend Tabs on anyone but Crono. That was hilarious too, even if you do eventually get Crono back.
Ha!
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That's why you don't use ANY of those rare stat boosting items until right before the final boss. Even then, you gotta be careful.
On a related note: For a complete, "I leveled this fucker up and s/he DIES?!" experience, play FF2. Not FF2/4 (although that one works too!)
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Presumably for basically the same reason that members of any apparent cultural minority (say, mac users, or people that dislike halo) develop a seething semi-rational hatred of whatever the popular item in opposition to their views is. The halo anti-fans are so shrill at this point that they have drowned out the halo fans on every forum I visit.
I actually have reasons for hating VII. Good ones, in my opinion. But that's not the point of this thread.
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I laughed when Aeris died, because I thought that that meant the game was wrapping up.
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That's why you don't use ANY of those rare stat boosting items until right before the final boss. Even then, you gotta be careful.
I still can't decide what to think about that line of thinking. On the one hand, I find it delightful, because I'm the sort of guy who appreciates the Encyclopedia Dramatica. It makes me happy to think there's about a million guys with OCD trolling the Gamefaqs boards who seriously think like that. :evil:
On the other hand, it's resulted in jrpgs being rendered trivially easy as developers have to account for players who seem to believe there's some prize for hoarding all your megalixirs. :x
Consider me torn.
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I laughed when Aeris died, because I thought that that meant the game was wrapping up.
As far as the storyline being understandable, you're not that far off.
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FFVII is a vastly overrated RPG with an awful translation and a huge group of fans who love the game simply because it was their first RPG and are therefore unable to objectively see it in the chronology of RPGs.
So, no, Aeris didn't make me cry when she died. But then again, I haven't cried for any reason for about 12 years. I am not trying to sound macho, because truth be told I think I have some kind of emotional block about crying. There have been several times in the past 5 years where I wanted/needed to cry, but I couldn't. I even tried to force myself to cry once, but all I ended up doing was laughing because my fake sobs sounded so ridiculous.
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I'm here to help you. You need to cry and I have advice that will help. Just remember this formula:
hammer + testicle = :cry:
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What has two thumbs and never played Final Fantasy VII?
This guy.
Good. Don't. It's trash. Best left in a million pieces hurtling towards the sun, along with it's legions of raving fans.
wow.... I thought FF7 was awesome. It's my favorite out the entire collection of FF games.
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I think FF7 has sort of seen the same kind of reaction as Halo, where it is so highly praised by such a large group of people that it spawns a smaller but just as loud group of people who hate it in backlash. Really, it's a good RPG with an extremely convoluted plotline, but in comparison with the dozens of other classic RPGs, including the ones from Square themselves, it just doesn't hold up.
FFVI is still the best game in the series. I think both Sakaguchi himself and the FF series lost something when he stepped down from the helm.
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I don't think that FFVII is a bad game, but for me the hype ruined it.
Halo was amazing for me because I came into it with no expectations. FFVII was touted as an extremely philosophical piece of videogame art. The only thing it seemed to do for me was show me where 3D started.
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I don't think that FFVII is a bad game, but for me the hype ruined it.
Halo was amazing for me because I came into it with no expectations. FFVII was touted as an extremely philosophical piece of videogame art. The only thing it seemed to do for me was show me where 3D started.
I was lucky enough have played the game without the hype. A hairy biker friend of my step-dad's said "hey, play this game. It's awesome"
That's the all the hype I got. I guess that's partly what I enjoyed about it.
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I played FFVI to death before this game came out and it disappointed me quite a bit. FFVI had a better story, better characters and a much better villain. VII is still probably my 3rd or 4th favorite of the series though.
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Yeah, I had no hype either. I played the game because it was an FF game and I needed a game for my shiny new playstation. In those days the only series I bought and played faithfully were LoZ, FF, Metroid. Any other games I played were games my neighbor (when I lived in PA) decided to give me. I was completely lost as far as the market, I had no idea what was coming out and was supposed to be good or bad or whatever, I pretty much relied on him for game buying advice. And I had no reason not to, because he always lead me to games I enjoyed. But I liked all the previous FF games I had played, so I bought it.
Anywho, I have a theory that nothing is overrated. If a lot of people like something, that's the facts and there's really no disputing it. If something is popular, it's because a lot of people enjoy it. Now, you still have the right to think that something is not so good, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority disagree with you. It works in reverse too (nothing is underrated either). A good example: rap music. I despise the vast majority of rap songs (especially the popular ones ones), but the people who make those must be doing something right because a lot of people enjoy them. The people speak.
Then again, I also think that the vast majority of people are stupid. To quote Ellen Degeneres, "Not us, it's others."
I can see why people don't like FFVII. It had bad translation and a few plot points that were more annoying than anything. It's not a game for the patient, as it's medium paced and very wordy. But to me, those things were easily overlooked by a deep, involving storyline, awesome characters, addicting gameplay, and great music. It never gets old for me and I still enjoy playing it. It's my favourite video game so far, and I think people should play it and develop their own opinions, or leave it alone but not judge a game they haven't played (I've heard a lot of people say it was good/bad without ever playing it).
Sorry for the speech: now on to the question:
I was about eight when it came out, but I didn't play it until I was about ten. Yes I did cry because I was always a very sensitive child, and because I liked Aerith at that point (even though I hated her at first). She was kinda weak as far as attacking, but her limit breaks and magic skill saved me lots of times. Enough to warrant a permanent party spot (until she died of course). I had even acquired her final limit break (by the way, you don't need to cheat to get it, you just have to do a bunch of extra stuff that's hard to do that early in the game). When she died, I was initally just sad about her death, but later on it hit me that I had spent so much time on a character who I wouldn't get back.
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Aerith
oh not this shit
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Dammit! Jeph locked the "Why do you love/hate..." thread before I could post "No, wait, you mean... SO. TEN. YEARS.AGO."
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Honestly I was more sad when Shadow and Interceptor part ways in the FFVI epilog. Though I was sad when she died. Mostly because I did not like seph, and I did not like loosing to him.
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FF7 killed my mother. Ever since I have been on a mission of revenge, which has turned me into a bitter, warped human being incapable of normal human contact. The thought of vengeance is the only thing that keeps me alive.
So what I'm saying is FF7 kinda okay, nothing real special though
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We're missing the option about masturbating and shooting the load directly on the wall.
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We're missing the option about masturbating and shooting the load directly on the screen.
Fixed.
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My theory is that FFVII has become the video game equivalent of Stevie Ray Vaughn, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. Whether they were ever any good or not is beside the point; we all just know that the mere mention of their name can summon the most slavish of fanboys out of the deepest recesses of the earth, and once exposed to light they will just not shut the fuck up.
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I hated Aeris, she did no damage, her healing was not much better than anyone elses, HP was sub par, mana was not great... I never really used her I guess.
Cloud/Tifa/Barrett/RedXIII/Yuffie/Vincent were the only ones I really bothered to use.
At every possible chance I made Cloud try to choose Tifa in favour of Aeris, I hated that flower selling slum girl with a stick and all her limit breaks were sucky. Well, all the ones I eventually got.
I was relieved when she got impaled by Sephiroth because I would never be forced to play with that woman in my party evar again.
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My theory is that FFVII has become the video game equivalent of Stevie Ray Vaughn, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. Whether they were ever any good or not is beside the point; we all just know that the mere mention of their name can summon the most slavish of fanboys out of the deepest recesses of the earth, and once exposed to light they will just not shut the fuck up.
The difference here is that people who hate Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are inhuman monsters with no taste in awesome, while people who hate FFVII think it brought many bad tendencies to the RPG genre under the guise of "improvements."
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I was sorely tempted to just say "Stevie Ray Vaughn", because he's the ultimate example in a really popular artist splitting opinion because some argue he was innovative while others argue he was merely derivative and set a bad precedent for the genre.
On the other hand, I knew saying Pink Floyd and Zep would lure out some comments, proving two things: 1. I'm right and 2. I am a gigantic troll.
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I didn't like her from a story perspective, but she was an awesome character to have once her lvl 2 limit breaks were unlocked. With a cover Materia and a Hyper, shecould full heal theparty almost every turn for no mp
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The way I see it is that she was training wheels for your party. Once she got shanked, your party could easily survive without her.
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2. I am a gigantic troll.
Hahahaha! That's cute. Kid, you've got a long way to go.
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I thought it was kind of sad the first time I beat it.. at eleven. I have rarely been torn up emotionally by a game the way that a movie can make me. The only games I can remember having a big emotional impact on me were Final Fantasy IX and Odin Sphere, the latter being pretty recently. VII was a whole lot of fun at the time though, I remain a fan.
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Sorry I'm not stuck in a continuous loop in timespace where people still play Final Fantasy 7.
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I disliked her limit breaks. All they did was heal. Now, I realize that people get gigantic stiffies over healers in most video games for some fucked up reason, but nine times out of ten there's a ridiculous array of restorative items available in any rpg whereas ways to drastically improve your offensive potential are typically available only at endgame. Aeris had nice magic power, but frankly there just isn't enough awesome materia available to make that a big deal before she buys the farm. Which is why I always ended up rolling out RedXIII and whichever random asshole happened to have access to the best weapon available at the time, which is pretty much never Aeris.
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I didn't use her that much, but I actually thought the death scene was pretty funny. So dramatic.
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Sorry I'm not stuck in a continuous loop in timespace where people still play Final Fantasy 7.
It's funny how whenever I get the urge to check FAQs for Final Fantasy games, I see all these "hardcore" people doing one character runs through them, or "no materia/no summon/no license board/no whatever" runs, and I think to myself "My god, these people must either be monomaniacs or they have way too much time on their hands." I can't imagine wasting hundreds of hours to get through Final Fantasy VII without using Materia with all the amazing games that have come out since then, or are currently coming out. I suppose if they're 10 years old and can't afford anything else...but even then, god damn, that takes a lot of patience.
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Sorry I'm not stuck in a continuous loop in timespace where people still play Final Fantasy 7.
It's funny how whenever I get the urge to check FAQs for Final Fantasy games, I see all these "hardcore" people doing one character runs through them, or "no materia/no summon/no license board/no whatever" runs, and I think to myself "My god, these people must either be monomaniacs or they have way too much time on their hands." I can't imagine wasting hundreds of hours to get through Final Fantasy VII without using Materia with all the amazing games that have come out since then, or are currently coming out. I suppose if they're 10 years old and can't afford anything else...but even then, god damn, that takes a lot of patience.
I don't know, I play through Baldur's Gate 2 over and over and over. I've got 2 games running right now. It takes me awhile with school and work, but I get it done. One, because there are so many different party combinations and I like going through the game and seeing what happens with certain configurations (examples: Keldorn kills Viconia, Minsc becomes Aerie's bodyguard, Edwin gets a sex change) and two, because I can't ever seem to get tired of this goddamn game. Now, my excuse is that there haven't been many games like BG2 released since it came out, in terms of scope or depth. As far as CRPGs go, I don't believe it's been improved upon in a number of ways. I don't think you can make those excuses with FFVII, because it seems like JRPGs are a much more lucrative and packed market and there have been many iterations of that series that have been released. So I sort of know where they're coming from, even if I roll my eyes at them and their chosen game. Some people just have niches. Hell, I hear Crysis is pretty cool, but fuck if I care. I've got very little interest in FPSes outside of the narrative-driven few. I can't deny that the Mario games are objectively excellent, but I really don't find them fun.
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I note that the tenor of the replies does not seem proportionate to the votes.
I didn't cry--I was too confused by the total absence of blood in that scene. But I will admit that the music pushed my emo buttons pretty effectively. I was 15 then, so I was the perfect target audience for that game.
FFVII was a good game. The reason it has a magical appeal to a lot of people in the late 90's is that it was, for many, their first introduction to world of moody technopunk anime (I didn't see Akira until later). That stuff was practicaly custom-tailored for the angsty, repressed teenage imagination that hungered for just such a spiritual playground. As an OCD grinding treadmill and a narcissistic, apocalyptic escapist fantasy, FFVII satisfied on so many levels that people didn't even understand yet.
Of course now the graphics are as laughable as our sophomore yearbook pictures, and we can blame FFVII for the age of cookie-cutter RPG characters and style-over-substance gameplay. But that doesn't mean that it's not a classic. I would pay top dollar for a graphical remake.
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I think my problem with FFVII is that it sort of signaled the transition to the Nomura-induced androgyny and melodrama. Every FF game since (with the exception of 9) has tried to outdo the previous one in terms of grandiosity and seriousness, and it eventually just practically becomes an unintentional parody of itself. That being said, I do think 12 was a step in the right direction for the series, and the trailers for 13 certainly look impressive, but you can cook up an impressive trailer for just about anything.
Basically Tetsuya Nomura fucked up Final Fantasy and also was responsible for the creation Kingdom Hearts so he can go ahead and die in a fire thanks very much. Although knowing the way his plotlines work he'll probably leave behind some kind of memento that will leave the other characters tortured inside wondering if he managed to survive.
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That's why you don't use ANY of those rare stat boosting items until right before the final boss. Even then, you gotta be careful.
On a related note: For a complete, "I leveled this fucker up and s/he DIES?!" experience, play FF2. Not FF2/4 (although that one works too!)
Phantasy Star IV's was almost sorta maybe kinda like that, too. As was PSII, maybe more so.
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Good god, no. I think FFVII bears the distinction of being the Final Fantasy that actually elicited the least amount of emotion from me.
Then again, I consider Final Fantasy IX to be the best game in the series aside from VI, so there's that.
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Hey! I liked Kingdom Hearts....
Wait, of course I did, I'm a hopeless fanboy.
Anywho, IX was good, in fact it's my third favourite of the series (the first being VII and the second being VI).
One thing I've noticed about the games after VII (with the exception of IX) all played off of that odd mix of classic FF medievaloid formula and a more modern setting. X toned it down a bit, and I thought it was pretty good. But VIII just seemed like it was cashing in on FFVII's popularity by having an almost identical style and main characters with strikingly similar personality. But VIII had almost no character development, and it's story was much less interesting (in my opinion). Even XII had that little mix of the classic and modern settings. But like X, it was toned down quite a bit.
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Quoting people directly above me.
Come on now. You know better.
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Sorry, force of habit. At my other forums, people get irritated if you don't quote. Don't know why, maybe they lack the capacity to follow conversations, but that's the way it is.
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Good god, no. I think FFVII bears the distinction of being the Final Fantasy that actually elicited the least amount of emotion from me.
Then again, I consider Final Fantasy IX to be the best game in the series aside from VI, so there's that.
OH MY GOD WHO ARE YOU, BECAUSE I LOVE YOU AND WISH YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN 7 POSTS
FF7 was terrible. I should say, it was mediocre for the time, but the fact it's still talked about years after it's even replayable to people who enjoyed it the first time makes it terrible.
Go play a real RPG like Baldur's Gate 2.
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I liked the Baldur's Gate games. But obviously FFVII must have done something right because a lot of people loved it and continue to play it (myself included).
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I think my biggest beef with FF7 is that it wasn't FF6, which was a lot better in every way, to me. It had a better story, the combat flowed nicer, the characters were more likable, and the graphics are still awesome. WHAT SPRITES CAN'T BE AWESOME you say? Well, tell you what. Go back and play FF6 and then go play FF7. Which of them makes your eyes bleed? The thing about sprites a lot of people don't realize right away is that they age rather well, whereas a lot of 3d graphics do not. For me, it was a very disappointing sequel. It's hard for me to swallow my pride and say I could see how someone that had never played a Final Fantasy game prior would get hooked, but I can at least give people that if it was their first J-RPG.
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Honestly, what's more unfathomable to me are those people that worship the first Wild Arms game. While FF7 was flawed, it wasn't like any other RPG at the time, so I can understand why it become such a juggernaut. While Wild Arms always a 2nd tier series, it has some dedicated fanpersons.
The way of the JRPG, I guess.
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I haven't played any of the Wild Arms ones much, but I do think the first Wild Arms was worthy of dedicated fanpersons. The other 3 (or was it 4?), not so much.
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The thing about sprites a lot of people don't realize right away is that they age rather well, whereas a lot of 3d graphics do not.
So true. Also, 3D throws camera issues into the mix (augh 90s platformers aughflfbglarghadsfrjghalghaghahghahagagagllgrbebllblblebela).
I wish more games would be made with sprite graphics. REALLY HIGH DETAIL ones, mind you, but sprite graphics nonetheless.
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My theory is that FFVII has become the video game equivalent of Stevie Ray Vaughn, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. Whether they were ever any good or not is beside the point; we all just know that the mere mention of their name can summon the most slavish of fanboys out of the deepest recesses of the earth, and once exposed to light they will just not shut the fuck up.
Except that you left out one crucial part so aptly demonstrated by this thread. They aren't fanboys, they're antifanboys.
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There's still one fanboy left in this nest of antifanboys. Wait, does that mean we have a collision of fanboy and antifanboy? OH NOES, TEH INTERNETS IMPLODEZ0RZ!!!
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Yes, I've read Angels and Demons.
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Strike two. :-)
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I'll assume that my it was either my liking of Dan Brown novels or absolutely horrible joke in my previous post that made the second strike, but what was the first? I'm just going to assume it's my continued existence.
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absolutely horrible joke in my previous post that made the second strike
probably
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I don't think I've ever cried during a video game. If I had, it certainly would not have been during this. Aeris was useless, I NEVER used her if I didn't have to, and I thought she was annoying as hell.
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I've personally always found plot elements such as a character dying rather bothersome.
I played Guild Wars for 2+ years, the majority of it spent competatively. However, when I started, and the few times after I submitted to pvp, that I bothered to actually pve, it always bugged me that PCs can die, and I could resurrect them (or a party member could, w/e), and yet, if an NPC died, fission mailed. GW explained this away with saying you were chosen or some such, which didnt really make any sense in and of itself, as the game is, once you get the training wheels off, entirely team based, yet the "defining moment" in your particular PCs life (in the first one) was "Ascending" and doing it solo. This was rather odd to me, as everything before, and after was stricly co-op, but whatever, I am off track.
Back to the point, I can live with save points, and resurrections of the main character in a FPS all day, however, Aeris' death was rather bewildering to me, as the characters outside of cutscenes can quite literally die hundreds of times, and all that elicits is a "well, time to use a phoenix down." The idea that, if your whole party died you couldn't just phoenix down everyone back up was OK (although you apparently had like, ten other guys floating in the wings, but w/e nitpicking) so having a character die, unresurrecctably (yes I know its not a word, shut up) was just awkward IMO. And yes, I know that PCs in the FF series are like "unconscious" or whatever the fuck, but you know what, when HP reads 0/n, YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD. Too much deus ex machina to really have an impact. They needed a plot point, and while effective, it didn't stick out as any sort of "memorable" moment.
Now, if they had killed Mog, I wouldve been sad.
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That would be a neat thing to see someone do well; an RPG that didn't allow resurrection but still managed to not be annoying about it*. Tricky, but it would allow stuff like characters dying to have a lot more emotional impact (and make a lot more sense).
*Angband does not qualify here; holy **** is it annoying when your character dies.
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[Big talk about reviving]
That's why I liked FFX, they actually reference this. In a cut scene, when Sin attacks the ship, Tidus falls into the water and drowns. Wakka the jumps down and uses a Phoenix down. It was a good moment, and I only caught it the second time I played through.
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I remember that. While I agree with you that it was really cool to see them using what's normally a battle only item in a cutscene, I thought that was kind of lame. Here I was excited that they finally killed the fucker off, and Wakka has to come and ruin my fun. :-(
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The really weird thing about FFX was that Wakka was voiced by John DiMaggio, aka the voice of Bender.
And Marcus Fenix from Gears of War. Dude's got some versatility, apparently.
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Sorry, DiMaggio is always going to be Bender to me. The fact his character in FFX didn't have a shiny metal ass to kiss really ruined it for me.
Of course, we can all agree that the Taco Bell chihuahua voicing Darc in Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits was faaaaaar weirder.
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That would be a neat thing to see someone do well; an RPG that didn't allow resurrection but still managed to not be annoying about it*. Tricky, but it would allow stuff like characters dying to have a lot more emotional impact (and make a lot more sense).
*Angband does not qualify here; holy **** is it annoying when your character dies.
Do they ever use that effect in any of the Fire Emblem games? I can't recall them doing so in either of the GBA ones which were the only ones I've had opportunity to play but they could always do something like that in another one.
The fact a fallen character is gone for good in those games makes it really poignant when one dies, just because you as a player are like "OH SHIT, THAT WAS ONE OF MY ONLY GUYS ABOVE LEVEL 4 WHAT AM I GOING TO REPLACE HIM WITH" and it really freaks you out.
D&D games so far are the only ones that can deal with death of an NPC permanently in the correct manner, because there are RULES for bringing people back to life in those worlds. I just wish they'd make you find a huge-ass diamond like you have to in the PNP version, but I can see how that'd be next to impossible to really code in as in PNP the DM can always make a subquest on the fly. Yoshimo, for example, was dead and no amount of divine spellcasting was ever going to bring him back because of HOW he died. I LOVE THAT AS MUCH AS I HATED YOU COULDN'T USE THE ONLY DECENT ROGUE IN THE WHOLE GAME!
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You cannot resurrect a character in Fire Emblem under any circumstances. So, if you're a purist like me, you just restart the mission as soon as anyone dies, which is why the series' difficulty is too demanding for a lot of people. For the record, Radiant Dawn moves it up from merely 'sadistic' to 'holy fucking shit, are you serious?'. I only got through about 5 missions on Normal difficulty before I hit a wall, went to check online for help and learned that the Normal mode on the North American version corresponds to Hard in the Japanese game. So I swallowed my pride and started a game on Easy.
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^ Seriously? The American version was harder?
How times have changed.
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That's what it says in the FAQs I've read. Apparently Easy is the Japanese Medium, Normal is the Japanese Hard, and Hard is the Japanese Maniac difficulty.
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Well I'm not a fanboy of the FF series but I was a little sad when Aeris died.
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everyone needs that shirt
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I only got through about 5 missions on Normal difficulty before I hit a wall, went to check online for help and learned that the Normal mode on the North American version corresponds to Hard in the Japanese game. So I swallowed my pride and started a game on Easy.
I was already too far when I found out, so I stuck with it. lets just say I have nothing nice to say about Micaiah.
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(http://fanboys-online.com/content/downloads/aeris%20shot%20first%20large.jpg)
so...
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So we revive threads for really shitty jokes now?
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Is this because I was gone for a couple weeks?
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my fault, sorry
didnt know two days was dead by QC standards, and I dont have an excuse for the joke
</shame>
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I will cry with joy when this thread dies.
C'mon, get some androgynous momma's boy with a sword in here DOUBLE TIME.
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I like to keep things alive. Threads are always more interesting when they have gone that few hundred posts too long.
I was 10 the first time I played Final Fantasy Seven. I love "Seven" because it gave me my Love of reading, my love of RPG's, and is prolly to blame for my rediculously spikey hair. I've never understood the amount of buzz around it though. The good or the bad. It's a mediocre game, a 6 of 10 at best, and should be left to rest with the other classics. If I have to see another Final Fantasy 7 related game, move (Admitedly "Advent Children" did rock my socks), anime, manga, book, slash fic, I'll....well I don't know what I'll do, but it'll be violent...and bloody...and involve the first Sevenite who tells me how "Totally Awesome" said next media is. Let it go....seriously.
This being said, I cried like a baby, an angry, hungry baby when Aeris (If you call her Aerith I'ma come find you and shoot you in the foot) died. I liked her, she was cute...in a "Friends Spoiled Niave Slightly Younger Sister" kinda way. I wasn't too dissapointed though. I'd already used Fury to get everyone to their third tier second level limits, and I Level everyone in equal ammounts then use my dream team (Cloud, Tifa, Vincent) for any boss type battles, so her usefullness was long gone before she was. *shrug* I'm still kinda urked that cloud never got his chance to hit it. On the topic of a re-make....I have to ask why?...then admit that I would buy it just to see some more fully animated Tifa and Yuffie.
In completely unrelated news...........Mario RPG FTW Bitches.
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Hmmmmm, That prolly wasn't the best way to express that. *shrug* You'll have to forgive me if not reading Yeats and Hemingway at 10 years old makes me a Neanderthal on this board. Oops.
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I can see where he's coming from. Dungeons and Dragons gave me my love of math. :laugh:
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I like to keep things alive. Threads are always more interesting when they have gone that few hundred posts too long.
So what you're saying is you want me to hate you.
slash fic,
Isn't this usually the type of thing you need to go looking for to actually run into it? I mean I know it's the internet, but I think I do pretty fucking good not running into slash fic during my day.
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Yeah, I don't really buy the whole "I stumbled upon this..." drek these days thanks to the vast improvements in search engines. I don't think people who weren't online before '98 really properly appreciate how much easier it is to avoid getting mindraped by things since Google pwned the web portal model and really ushered in an age of competition amongst search engines.
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I am proud to say that I've been on the Internet for 15 years and have STILL never seen Goatse or any of those other "trick you into looking at gross things" pictures.
And I have never "stumbled on" fanfiction, let alone slash. Just admit you were looking for it. We won't judge you.
(Yes we will.)
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I've never really had what I'd call a problem either, actually, although I think it partially depends on what you classify as offensive. I like anime and I've ran into the occasional porn ad or link to hentai sites from time to time looking for information on various titles that people have suggested, but I kind of consider that as coming with the territory rather than "accidental", and as more and more dedicated and varied sites came to pass it became a non-issue. But if you're the kind of person that's absolutely going to flip a tit over, well, a tit? That could be a bit of a problem.
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Sigged!
Oh... Wait. Crap.
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Do you mean:
I am a raving hentai addict in denial.
Sigged!
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Technically you wrote it, just under somebody else's name. Just sayin'.
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slash fic,
Isn't this usually the type of thing you need to go looking for to actually run into it? I mean I know it's the internet, but I think I do pretty fucking good not running into slash fic during my day.
You can't exactly "run into" slash fanfiction as in read the entire story accidentally, because that doesn't make sense. (Although I did once read part of a Xellos/Zel story, not realizing it was, ya know, porn. I stopped reading as soon as it got porny, by the way) You can run into the mention of it fairly easily, of course. Such as "I'm writing A/B fic." Particularly if your sister into slash, her friends are into slash, and her friends become your friends. Now that I'm older and wiser, the mention of someone writing slash fanfiction for, let's say, Yang/Tellah, just incites chuckles now. But when you're twelve, the idea that someone is masturbating to your still-in-the-process childhood effectively and neatly ends it.
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Great. More of them.
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Now that I've scandalized all the non-/b/tards who read this
You seem to be making the curious implication that you're proud to be a "/b/tard".
4chan is the reason God doesn't talk to us anymore.
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4chan is the reason God doesn't talk to us anymore.
4chan would be the only reasonable excuse, no offence to this forum, to delete the entire internet. Pack of utter retards.
I too have never 'stumbled across' anything online I didn't want to see in recent years, although I will confess to looking at goatse to see what all the fuss was about. Kinda gross but not as interesting as the legend surrounding it makes it sound.
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DUDE IT'S CATURDAY
Actually the girl I dated last year introduced me to 4chan. I had honestly never heard of it. She's also the one who bought my SomethingAwful forum account, which isn't nearly as bad as 4chan when taken in its totality (the music, film and book forums are nice, do not even fucking speak to me of GBS or FYAD).
I actually found /b/ to be amusing to look at about once a month for 30 minutes or so. Kind of like a really bloody car crash.
If I were to try and become the kind of person who writes amusing stories on blogs or whatever, the first one would be "I Dated a Camwhore". (No offense, she's really sweet and we're still good friends, she's just a little... odd. But then again, so am I.)
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God.... I cried, but not because of the action that Sephiroth performed. I had spent about 8 hours just leveling my main team...And that main team was comprised of Aeris, Cloud and Barret.
I had that team at Level 45. my closest Secondary team member to Aeris was Tifa. At about 22. I was pissed. I had no idea about what happened to her.... I had decided that I did not want any story hints... and it was most certainly to my detriment.
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Boo-fucking-hoo. Next time save your leveling for later in the game like a normal person.
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4chan is the reason God doesn't talk to us anymore.
Sigged. It's the utter truth.
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Can this thread please fucking die already? Jesus.
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No, it musn't die! If this thread were to die, a more inane and useless thread about Final Fantasy VII would rise from the ashes!
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GOD
FUCKING
DAMNIT
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Can't we just, ya know, lock it? I know some of you have the power to do so.
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What has two thumbs and never played Final Fantasy VII?
This guy.
Was that a Scrubs reference? Or is that an idiom outside of my little microcosm of existence?
Edit: Jesus, I had no idea this thread was so old. I didn't mean to revive it, really. Someone should just lock it.
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Oh, it's already far too late for apologies and edits. To keep the Scrubs reference going, this is pretty likely to send Fortebass into what could best be described as a rage coma.
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I didn't cry when Aeris died. She was the weakest character, I thought Tifa was cuter, and whenever Sepiroth killed someone I cheered. That's why.
I am on topic; because I am a good person.
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no, i didn't cry when aeris died in FF VII
i'm a winner
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whose aeris?
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^ Seriously? The American version was harder?
How times have changed.
Used to be the case for games like Dynamite Headdy or Streets of Rage -- the US versions were made harder overall.
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To be honest, I hated Aeris. I never used her unless I was forced to, and I sold all of her equipment.
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Liked her more than anyone else in the female cast but I... I didn't cry. Or anything. :oops:
Definitely was pissed though. A third in? I mean, really.
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does it iritate you that other people have opinions? :evil:
Edit:Anyways is our great and glorious leader....
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If you have ever read the comic Fanboys "http://fanboys-online.com/ (http://fanboys-online.com/)"
I am Paul. I love my playstation games and I cried with Aeris died... But im still a badass or something.
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FF7 killed my mother.
Son of Aeris?!?
*edit*
Yeah, I replied before I finished reading the whole thread.
An, did you see the movies or read the book?
*edit2 1/2*
I don't like starting a sentence with 'anyways'.
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Easy answer, Anyways:
hit "Reply".
On topic: I cried. Oh yes, I cried. My mouth hung open for a good 10 minutes while the tears came down. I'm a blubbering baby, what can I say? :cry:
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Yes - I cried for all the gear that was on her character and for the levels I'd worked on for her.
Beyond that, no, didn't particularly care that she died.
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I am amazed at how big a deal this scene was and still manages to be.
I need to talk with my composition class instructor to see if I can post a video that used a decidedly different backing track to the Aeris death scene.
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Ya know, I've been reading through old Phantasy Star LPs when I found out (sadly, I never played them back in the day) that the Nei death scene and the Alys one were better, despite predating FF7 by a few years.
I know the reason why FF7 is so revered is because for many people, this was the first (or perhaps, the first decent) JRPG they played. Has anyone played it again recently? I imagine it must be painful.
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Yeah, I have significantly more experience with that of PSIV.
You're not alone in your opinions of the Phantasy Star death scenes, though most other people that I know that have such an opinion are big PS fans in general anyway (i.e., active on the PSCave forums).
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Actually, it's still pretty good.
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Much like a lot of people here, I didn't cry. Why? FFVII didn't resonate with me at all; the characters were hollow, and Sephiroth was an awful, AWFUL villain, especially considering his predecessor (seriously, how many times do we have to watch him walk through fire? It wrecked the Dissidia trailer for me when he did it at the end). I didn't play any FF games from then until XII.
I give the game points for its size in terms of side-quests and exploration capacity, but that's it. One of my favourite QC jokes is Pintsize's description of his "limit break," because to me, that's what FFVII really was all about: long flashy battles, because they could do it now.
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I was angry. I almost refused to play the second disc.
And everytime that they insist on calling her "Aerith" in US releases, it is like they are twisting theat sword in her wound. I understand the reasons, but you gave us such a resonant character that changing ANYTHING about her just seems wrong, even if it's just fixing a typo.
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Although the moment was touching indeed, I found the cutscene onboard the cargo ship in disc 1 of FF IX more even more emotional, for some reason.
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And now we wait for the guy with the scary Samuel L Jackson avatar to come in and complain again about thread necro...
What scene in which cargo ship?
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She was my healer, and saved my ass a few times early in.
I didn't cry, I was pissed I wasted my time leveling her up. I mean, what's the point of even showing that she has higher limit breaks if you can't use them past the first disk without cheating? That's retarded.
This. I wasn't upset emotionally, just pissed that I lost my healer. I had to rethink my strategy, and that made me angry.
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Where's the "Happy" option? I was so glad to have such a useless combatant leave my party after having been required in the party for so long.
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What scene in which cargo ship?
The one in which Black Waltz 3 blasted all those Black Mages away.
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Where's the "Happy" option? I was so glad to have such a useless combatant leave my party after having been required in the party for so long.
bit late now *shrugs*