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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: Johnny C on 07 Dec 2007, 12:39
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(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-1.jpg)
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-2.jpg)
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-3.jpg)
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-4.jpg)
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-5.jpg)
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-6.jpg)
Oh, and for poos and giggles, John Goodman as Pop:
(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/11/14/john-goodman-pops-speed.jpg)
Trailer watchable here (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/speed_racer_trailer_simulates.php). Of course, I use "watchable" in the loosest sense of the word. Thanks, Wachowski Brothers, for making possibly one of the ugliest movies I've ever looked at.
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oh fuck no they didn't
and Christina Ricci, i used to think you were hot. now...i just don't know.
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It doesn't help that they've given her a haircut like Moe Howard's.
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I'm reminded of Lazytown.
(http://blogger.xs4all.nl/images/blogger_xs4all_nl/gonzo12/21149/r_LazyTown.jpg)
Save your money and buy Death Race 2000, or something.
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Wachowski brothers fail at everything they do. They try to be arty, fun and provide a serious amount of action but they just can't, and never will, pull it off.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc227/f1abberghast/Wachowskis.jpg)
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I actually think this movie might be so terrible that it ends up being hilarious.
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That would be its best bet. Hopefully they'll show it at my school's weekly movie screening. Watching this kind of film is actually enjoyable when it's on a huge screen and you're surrounded by a bunch of college kids, especially since it's free. At least that is how it was for TMNT and Transformers.
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I keep looking at the first picture and think, "hey, that's the kid from Girl Next Door! He's all growed up"
They could have chosen a lot more attractive girl than Ricci, and the wig is just aweful.
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I recall Trixie being anorexic in the cartoon.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Trixie.jpg)
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Looks to me like the Wachowski Brothers were eating a load of skittles, then threw up all over their storyboard.
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I recall Trixie being anorexic in the cartoon.
Like this?
http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/6523/Je_Jean_14863152_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Morrison%2C%20Jennifer%20(II)&seq=9 (http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/6523/Je_Jean_14863152_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Morrison%2C%20Jennifer%20(II)&seq=9)
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That video seems to no longer be available.
But the concept of a Wachowski-made Speed Racer live action movie is so grotesque horrifying that I have to ask: that's a fucking joke, right?
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You guys are kidding, right?
Because that trailer basically looks like Speed Racer. I mean...it looks garish and too colorful because Speed Racer was fucking garish and too colorful. There's nothing about that trailer that looks wrong considering the source material except for the fact it's futuristic.
Were you expecting Children of Men or something?
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John Goodman
that is all
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Hey, he was good in Barton Fink, The Big Lebowski, and O Brother Where Art Thou. He's not 100% awful all the time (although I bet he will be in this).
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that is not why I think the movie will be terrible, that is why I am going to see it
that, and Racer X
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Hey, he was good in Barton Fink, The Big Lebowski, and O Brother Where Art Thou. He's not 100% awful all the time (although I bet he will be in this).
John Goodman is always awesome screw you.
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Wait....what?
The fuck is this?
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Oh Emile Hirsch, you are so hot and did an amazing job in Into the Wild. Now you come out with this and all I want to ask is WHAT THEY HELL ARE YOU THINKING?!?!
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I don't think that he was actually thinking.
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I liked V for Vendetta the movie, that was wachowski right?
And yes, I read the comic before the movie came out. And yes, I thought it was a pretty darned comic. And yes, I thought the movie was really good too.
And no, I didn't like the 2nd or the 3rd matrixes.
I've never read watchmen though. I really want to.
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Hey, he was good in Barton Fink, The Big Lebowski, and O Brother Where Art Thou. He's not 100% awful all the time (although I bet he will be in this).
John Goodman is always awesome screw you.
Goodman's been in Arachnaphobia, The Flinstones Movie, Blue Brothers 2000, Bringing out the Dead, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, Coyote Ugly and Evan Almighty, among other atrocities. In other words: sorry, you're wrong.
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I'd say Walter Sobchak makes up for each and every one of those. Any of his Coens performances, really.
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No. Really.
Fuck.
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Goodman's been in Arachnaphobia, The Flinstones Movie, Blue Brothers 2000, Bringing out the Dead, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, Coyote Ugly and Evan Almighty, among other atrocities. In other words: sorry, you're wrong.
And he is always awesome I don't know what the problem is here.
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Looks beyond awesome to me. They should talk a little faster though.
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I liked V for Vendetta the movie, that was wachowski right?
I don't think they directed it, though.
EDIT: That first picture looks like a 12-year-old's first attempt at photoshop.
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Sure, the CGI looks like I took a dump on my WACOM tablet. But I think the movie looks like a fun take on an anime.
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Goodman's been in Arachnaphobia, The Flinstones Movie, Blue Brothers 2000, Bringing out the Dead, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, Coyote Ugly and Evan Almighty, among other atrocities. In other words: sorry, you're wrong.
You are greatly confusing a good performance with a good film.
John Goodman is fuckin' awesome no matter what script you hand him. Also, Bringing Out The Dead isn't bad so go away.
Anyways, Speed Racer. Hyper-saturated photography, costumes that look stupid on actual human people and dialogue that doesn't even make an attempt at realism. The only lines I didn't rankle at were delivered by John Goodman.
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All I'm getting out of these statements is that it's remaining true to the source material.
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[quote author=Johnny C link=topic=18373.msg572938#msg572938 date=1197161549
... and dialogue that doesn't even make an attempt at realism. The only lines I didn't rankle at were delivered by John Goodman.
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Your right, its not attempting at realisim. Because its not supposed to, I think this movie would be 2000 times worse if it tried to be real and edgy.
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The first thing I focus on in that John Goodman picture is his freaking boobs. What the hell? Where did he get such big boobs?
Anyway, I agree with the comment about them talking faster.
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The first thing I focus on in that John Goodman picture is his freaking boobs. What the hell? Where did he get such big boobs?
If I were to venture a guess, I'd say it would have something to do with the fact that he is well overweight.
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He has been fat for awhile though, and has never had boobs like that.
Anyway, after watching some videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_213QC8zAlM), I decided that this movie better have a lot of "gasp! pause". I'll be pretty disappointed if it doesn't.
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I think this movie would be 2000 times worse if it tried to be real and edgy.
Look. If you want your fucking cars to race upside down and in weird hellish CGI landscapes while Christina Ricci alks around with a bad mannequin hairdo, fine. I will accept this. But if you're movie's going to be painful to listen to and to look at then you fucked up! You fucked up.
I honestly don't know how you could watch the trailer and think, "They could have made worse decisions!" They already made the worst decisions. They have made a series of the worst decisions.
I mean, it's probably going to be unintentionally hilarious, but right now it looks more garish than Across The Universe and that's saying something.
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"The inspiring, true story of Szpeid Racowicz, a young boy who escapes the ghettos of Poland as World War II looms on the horizon. He emigrates to America to find his family but ends up trapped in a dead end job on the docks in New York. It seems as if all is lost, until one night "Speed" opens a mysterious crate that contains a piece of the True Cross, which he uses to build a car that will change the world..."
fuck you guys this is going to be awesome.
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Ah. This is obviously some strange new use of the word "awesome" that I had not previously been aware of.
I watched the preview. It was like this drug trip in a movie I saw when I was on this drug trip.
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Johnny if what you said was a blow to Across The Universe I can no longer accept your argument as valid.
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Johnny did you never even watch Speed Racer as a kid?
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"The inspiring, true story of Szpeid Racowicz, a young boy who escapes the ghettos of Poland as World War II looms on the horizon. He emigrates to America to find his family but ends up trapped in a dead end job on the docks in New York. It seems as if all is lost, until one night "Speed" opens a mysterious crate that contains a piece of the True Cross, which he uses to build a car that will change the world..."
fuck you guys this is going to be awesome.
OK, I looked at that website to see if it really, truly said that, and it doesn't! You're a liar and a thief!
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What have I stolen? Your INNOCENCE?
Okay okay okay you got me. What they ARE doing is removing all the car racing scenes and substituting them with endurance racing with motorcycles, snowmobiles and the yeti. Unfortunately, the yeti can't handle the heat of the race track and doesn't have a legal international drivers license, so Brad Pitt (Mr. Smith) has to get the yeti back to Tibet within Se7en years using only his street motorcycle and snowmobiles, otherwise his head will end up in a Chinese takeout box and the Yeti will be in Clear and Present Danger of running into the dangerous Fugitive Harrison Ford (Mr. Smith), played by Wesley Snipes (Mr. Smith) from U.S. Marshals. Since the Wachowskis have run into some 11th-hour balking with the Racowicz estate, they have decided to scrap the whole Speed Racer idea and make the project a sequel to Mr. and Mrs. Smith a la the Matrix entitled (I believe) Mr. and Mr. Smith's Se7en Year Voyage to Tibet with Yeti on Motorcycle and Snowmobile.
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I watched the trailer again. Still looks like a pretty fun movie.
Also, I second the person who said they should talk really really fast.
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Mr. and Mr. Smith's Se7en Year Voyage to Tibet with Yeti on Snowmobile and Motorcycle Diaries.
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What have I stolen? Your INNOCENCE?
Okay okay okay you got me. What they ARE doing is removing all the car racing scenes and substituting them with endurance racing with motorcycles, snowmobiles and the yeti. Unfortunately, the yeti can't handle the heat of the race track and doesn't have a legal international drivers license, so Brad Pitt (Mr. Smith) has to get the yeti back to Tibet within Se7en years using only his street motorcycle and snowmobiles, otherwise his head will end up in a Chinese takeout box and the Yeti will be in Clear and Present Danger of running into the dangerous Fugitive Harrison Ford (Mr. Smith), played by Wesley Snipes (Mr. Smith) from U.S. Marshals. Since the Wachowskis have run into some 11th-hour balking with the Racowicz estate, they have decided to scrap the whole Speed Racer idea and make the project a sequel to Mr. and Mrs. Smith a la the Matrix entitled (I believe) Mr. and Mr. Smith's Se7en Year Voyage to Tibet with Yeti on Motorcycle and Snowmobile.
Sold.
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tomselleck has just given me reason to see this movie. Garish and terrifying is no longer a problem.
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Johnny did you never even watch Speed Racer as a kid?
I did. It was cheap, not cheap and hideous. Plus it was a fucking anime so it had an excuse for looking like that.
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(http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2007/12/06/speed-racer-1.jpg)
Okay, seriously, I can't stop coming back to this picture. What is that coming out from behind his head? An explosion? A doily?
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I did. It was cheap, not cheap and hideous. Plus it was a fucking anime so it had an excuse for looking like that.
You are wrong about your entire life.
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What is that coming out from behind his head? An explosion? A doily?
The picture demonstrates that thoughts go into Speed Racer's head in straight lines and come out as racing cars so fast that they cannot be represented within the confines of conventional geometry. This demonstrates how much Speed Racer embodies the race. The, uh, speedy race.
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By that interpretation, Speed Racer's dialogue would consist entirely of him yelling "VROOOOOOOOOOMMMM!" constantly. Which would be infinitely more watchable.
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Johnny did you never even watch Speed Racer as a kid?
I did. It was cheap, not cheap and hideous. Plus it was a fucking anime so it had an excuse for looking like that.
At least it wasn't Lupin. Or Dragonball Z.
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At least it wasn't Lupin. Or Dragonball Z.
I don't care if I quoted an above post, this is pretty much the worst thing I've ever read on the forums.
This entire thread is a monument to poor taste.
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By that interpretation, Speed Racer's dialogue would consist entirely of him yelling "VROOOOOOOOOOMMMM!" constantly.
No, the racing cars have to corner occasionally so it'd be more like "VROOOOOOOOOOMMMM! EEEEEEEEERRRRRUUUUUUWWWWWW vroom vroom vroom VROOOOOOOOOOMMMM!"
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At least it wasn't Lupin. Or Dragonball Z.
I don't care if I quoted an above post, this is pretty much the worst thing I've ever read on the forums.
This entire thread is a monument to poor taste.
Hey now, I'm just talkin' bout the animation. As a kid I always hated Lupin's thick lines and poor transfers. I thought it was ugly. I didn't pay enough attention to tell if the show was any good, it just didn't look like the hyper-stylized beautyfests they'd air on Adult Swim.
And I don't see why I have to get behind the Wachowski's live-action Speed Racer because the TV show is such a sacred cow. I think it's reasonable to say that the visual style of the movie is indeed garish and ill-conceived.
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I guess this thread has helped me figure out the mindset of people slavishly devoted to source material?
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This thread is pretty funny in places.
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I guess this thread has helped me figure out the mindset of people slavishly devoted to source material?
Actually, I was coming from the point that Speed Racer was pretty much shit to begin with and if you're going to make a Speed Racer movie, it should be about as shit.
If you're going to make it dark, serious, and any good, why make it Speed Racer?
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Quite frankly, I'm not interested in seeing this movie unless it's hilariously terrible.
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speed racer sucked. this movie is going to suck. they did it right.
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Quite frankly, I'm not interested in seeing this movie unless it's hilariously terrible.
Agreed.
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I will probably just wait for it to hit the dollar theater and then I will go just to stare at Emile Hirsch the whole time.
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man, i wish washington wasn't the only state in the fucking country without dollar theatres. seems every state i go to has them and it's wonderful but for some strange reason it hasn't caught on in washington. i don't know why.
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Save your money and buy Death Race 2000, or something.
This is fantastic advice for almost any situation. Unfortunately I've never been able to find it anywhere.
Also I want Paul Gilbert to do the soundtrack for this.
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man, i wish washington wasn't the only state in the fucking country without dollar theatres. seems every state i go to has them and it's wonderful but for some strange reason it hasn't caught on in washington. i don't know why.
They are pretty much my favorite things. Even though they upped the prices on the weekend to $2.50 per show, but that is still a really good deal. Hooray Fargo!
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....dollar theaters? Jersey definitely doesn't have these unless they're hiding somewhere. We have something more like $9 theaters which is quite a bit worse (although sometimes weekday matinees are $4 or so).
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I thought "Dollar Theater" was just an expression for "cheaper than average theater that gets movies for a time after they've departed from the multiplexes". We have $3 theaters here. The nice thing about ours is that occasionally they'll get movies that never appeared in our multiplexes, like Michael Clayton or Gone Baby Gone.
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well, they aren't always a dollar but they are always cheap. i passed through utah on my way to arizona a while back and they were all $2. unfortunately, i was hanging out with my friend TJs mormon brother and he doesn't like action or swearing or magic or anything interesting at all so we had to see that 9-11 movie with nicolas cage (or whoever that was).
that said, it was an alright movie.
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....dollar theaters? Jersey definitely doesn't have these unless they're hiding somewhere. We have something more like $9 theaters which is quite a bit worse (although sometimes weekday matinees are $4 or so).
That's one good thing about the midwest and smaller cities. Nightly shows at regular theaters are $7.75, matinees $5.75. Then there's the dollar theater for $2.50 and $1.75.
My sister and I are going to see Superbad tomorrow at the dollar theater.
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Christina Ricci, i used to think you were hot. now...i just don't know.
allow me to help clear this up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/est_xplosif/random/christina-ricci-caramel-cutie-01.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/est_xplosif/random/christina-ricci-caramel-cutie-05.jpg)
carry on.
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Whoa, that's Christina these days? I believe the issue has been settled.
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....dollar theaters? Jersey definitely doesn't have these unless they're hiding somewhere. We have something more like $9 theaters which is quite a bit worse (although sometimes weekday matinees are $4 or so).
That's one good thing about the midwest and smaller cities. Nightly shows at regular theaters are $7.75, matinees $5.75. Then there's the dollar theater for $2.50 and $1.75.
My sister and I are going to see Superbad tomorrow at the dollar theater.
We have a theater that is $.75 on Tuesdays. I don't know why Tuesdays. Who cares? But it's a pretty crappy theater, so that's really all it would be worth any day of the week.
I think Speed Racer looks fun. There's a lot of dark movies out there right now, so this seems refreshing to me. I don't know much about the anime (since I don't really like anime), but it looks like they were just trying something new. I'm cool with that.
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This entire thread can be summed up with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_213QC8zAlM
If you didn't click the link the first time it was posted, do it now.
I have to agree. If the movie isn't hilariously bad, I don't want to see it.
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Words will never explain the amount of sense that failed to make.
Oh man, part 2 is even better. Not only can little kids and monkeys do dangerous reconnaissance, but they must wear top hats and fake monocles to do so!
It's camouflage for the fact that they're on top of a barren snowy mountain, you see.
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See the cartoon was colourful anime but at least it was goofy and childish.
The movie is way too serious-looking.
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But I don't trust them to be able to make a truly "wacky" movie out of this. If they did, it would be self-aware, and that's no good. The key is that the movie can't know it sucks.
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See the cartoon was colourful anime but at least it was goofy and childish.
The movie is way too serious-looking.
Man, I watched that entire frickin' thing.
It wanted to be serious so bad.
I loved when the Acrobatic Team stood on their cars, holding up torches in a blizzard, declaring they were getting their strength from the elements. It was so anime.
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Were you ever eight years old?
I ask purely out of curiousity.
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Across the Universe: Rocked
Speed Racer: Hilarious
Nickelodeon's Remade Speed Racer: enh...
Speed Racer Movie: Makes me want to cry for several reasons.
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Were you ever eight years old?
I ask purely out of curiousity.
Yes.
And I watched Batman when I was eight. My standards were high.
Speed Racer is terribly hilarious and the movie looks perfect.
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Nickelodeon's Remade Speed Racer: enh...
Oh thank god someone else remembers that, I thought it was a hallucination brought on by a bad trip
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It doesn't look as bad as Ultraviolet was, but that doesn't mean I'm going to bother with seeing it. Ever.
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Speed Racer is terribly hilarious and the movie looks perfect.
I stand by my assertion of, "No movie needs to be this stupid or this ugly."
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It was no hallucination. I remember my first thought when seeing the commercials for Speed Racer on Nickelodeon was "God, are any kids actually going to know what this is?"
And it wasn't really all that good either. It just cleaned up some of the dialog.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, this movie looks freaking awesome.
I'm sure some scenes will be awesomely bad, but the keyword here is awesome.
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Also I want Paul Gilbert to do the soundtrack for this.
<3
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Nickelodeon's Remade Speed Racer: enh...
Oh thank god someone else remembers that, I thought it was a hallucination brought on by a bad trip
Nickelodeon made a remake? Oh dear lord. I'm not disappointed I missed it.
As for the movie....I'm really not sure how to react to that. I saw the poster for it last week at the movie theater and went "Huh?" Then, my second reaction was, "Why?"
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In ther UK we didn't get Speed racer, or at least I didn't get to see it. From the trailer it looks more like the wipeout game and Im really liking the trippy anime style. This movie will obviously be for kids so I don't expect much except stunning visuals.
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Since someone else brought it back from the dead I will say this:
This just in, there is actually a monkey in the movie. Not a robot like in the new cartoon, or any work of CGI, an actual monkey. Despite the fact that the movie will be terrible, at least there was a monkey in it.
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You know what would blow my mind?
If this is a legitimately good movie.
I just don't know what I'd do with myself.
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I recall Trixie being anorexic in the cartoon.
Like this?
http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/6523/Je_Jean_14863152_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Morrison%2C%20Jennifer%20(II)&seq=9 (http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/6523/Je_Jean_14863152_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Morrison%2C%20Jennifer%20(II)&seq=9)
Cameron's not that anorexic.
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You know what would blow my mind?
If this is a legitimately good movie.
I just don't know what I'd do with myself.
We're definitely in the same boat here. Personally I've hated EVERY Wachowski brothers film EXCEPT for the orginal matrix. Mind you I haven't seen Bound and I don't plan to. I made the mistake of reading V for Vendetta and then seeing the movie. The Invasion was boring and just...eugh. In my mind they can make 3/4 of a good movie but then they completely destroy the ending and ruin the rest of the film. Speed Racer looks bad, so heinously terrible that I won't be able to watch any of it. Emile Hirsch just seems....wrong, incredibly wrong. I know he was acclaimed for this role in Into the Wild but everytime I see him in the Speed Racer trailer he just comes off as a really bad B movie actor.
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Basically, if this isn't as terrible as the original Speed Racer was, I will be disappointed.
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Given that I didn't like the original cartoon, I may give the movie a pass. But if I hear that it is a "so bad, it's good" movie, I'm in for the DVD.
Besides John Goodman can act, and Christina Ricci is hot.
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The Invasion was boring and just...eugh.
Nothing to do with the Wachowskis.
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Christina Ricci is hot.
this is mostly why i am interested in this movie. also, pretty colors . . . i guess.
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Nothing to do with the Wachowskis.
apparently they wrote some of it
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We're definitely in the same boat here. Personally I've hated EVERY Wachowski brothers film EXCEPT for the orginal matrix. Mind you I haven't seen Bound and I don't plan to.
For God's sake, why not? It's really quite good.
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This movie just seems like a prolonged and unpleasant acid trip to me.
And an abomination of a cartoon that I watched incessantly as a child and get nostalgic over whenever I see it.
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Excellent!
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Ironically, that happened the first time too.
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Guys, I....I actually saw this movie tonight. Mostly because a friend was going to it, who in turn has a cute friend that I'm into and want to get to know. But I was so distracted by the seizure-inducing barrage of flashing lights and mind-fuck visuals that I didn't even talk to her the whole night. I may actually see this again, but take LSD beforehand.
I can't decide if this is actually the worst movie I've ever seen, or if it's some elaborate post-modernist joke. If it's the latter, then it's absolutely genius. If not..I don't know. My mind really can't handle the repercussions of trying to take this thing seriously.
Among the mind-blowing quotes:
"I'll see YOU at MOUNT FUJI!"
"Oh boy. This isn't a race...it's a showdown!"
"Racing isn't about cars or the love of the sport or anything like that. It's about power! It's about money! It's about ABSOLUTE CONTROL!!"
I alternated between laughing hysterically and weeping.
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Everyone I've talked to who has seen this basically says it's amazingly amazing.
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Everyone you've talked to was probably high, as per the norm.
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I think the only way to see this movie is high.
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I would not watch this movie high.
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I think the only way to see this movie is high.
I saw the trailer, and I thought I was high. This would probably scare some poor junkie to death.
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Guys, keep in mind that it is only PG and meant to be a family film. It's going to be supremely cheesy.
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So far it's made only half of what Warner Brothers expected. To me, this is probably one of the biggest "well, obviously..." moments of the year. Was this really supposed to work? Sometimes I wonder if film makers know what they're doing is deplorable and do it anyway or if they actually have some sort of delusion of artistic integrity (like our good friend, Uwe Boll).
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The Wachowski's are so ridiculously rich that they don't care if this movie makes money; they obviously wanted to do something so batshit insane it just might work. From what I've heard, it works really well, as a totally batshit cheezy drug film.
I mean, it's the cinematic equivalent of JK Rowling saying "Oh, by the way, Dumbledore was gay". Once you're rich enough, some people just stop giving a fuck and doing/saying whatever they want because, hey, they don't need money anymore.
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So far ten of my friends and two of my relatives who've seen the movie (and have kids) have told me that they thought the movie was possibly one of the worst films they've ever seen.....they rank it only SLIGHTLY higher than the Phantom Menace. Suprisingly the kids didn't like it either.....which is interesting considering that's who it's geared for. Three of my friends thought the special effects were stupid which I can relate to from the trailers. I can honestly say that I will be avoiding this one like the plague.
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There's a scene in which the lead guy pretends to have been in the shower in order to convince two henchmen that he didn't hear them at the door. The three of them repeat this plot device back to each other about thirty times as if their trying to convince themselves that it's true.
Er, are you aware it was supposed to be humorous? I mean, I know art is subjective and all but critically Bound was considered really good, even winning a bunch of awards. I personally thought it was great.
Rottentomatoes has it at 92%.
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Sometimes the masses are just wrong.
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Yes, but we're talking about the mass of critics. I dare you to find a movie with a 90% or higher score on Rottentomatoes that could plausibly be defined as "absolutely fucking horrible".
Bottom line, sure there are always people who dislike certain movies, I'm sure there are people who don't like Citizen Kane. But when 92% of critics agree that something is good, then it probably means that there is some merit in it and calling it out to be as bad as tommy did is irresponsible.
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I thought Speed Racer was good. But I also don't have high expectations for movies... ever. Probably why I like action movies so much, they don't demand me to think about the situation and find the meaning behind it. Just sit back and watch the pretty colors and explosions. Which was basically what Speed Racer boiled down to: admire the special effects in the races. And I did, and they were good.
But of course.... many will disagree, it's inevitable. I will stand by my judgment.
And the fact that I was surprised how well Matthew Fox was as Racer X, loved his voice...
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I'm willing to posit that the critics are occasionally wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_%28album%29#Initial)!
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In the case of Pinkerton, about half the critics were wrong.
In the case of Bound, you're asserting it's possible for over 90% of the critics to be wrong.
There is a difference there.
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oddly, i'd say that critics are the group most likely to be wrong about anything.
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I remember enjoying Bound.
Of course, I was 16.
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In the case of Pinkerton, about half the critics were wrong.
In the case of Bound, you're asserting it's possible for over 90% of the critics to be wrong.
I'd say if half the critics were wrong about Bound then I can rest my case.
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oddly, i'd say that critics are the group most likely to be wrong about anything.
.........Like the millions of critics who said that 10,000 BC was absolutely terrible? Or the millions of critics who say that Uwe Boll movies are terrible? I'd have to say that for MOST movies critics get it right most of the time. It's when they entirely miss the point of the movie or have no idea what the movie's about that you can't trust them.
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I don't think you need to watch movies professionally to tell that Uwe Boll movies are bad.
Just sayin'.
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Yeah, i don't really see what is so meritory about knowing a film sucks. I say this as someone who got paid to review music and films.
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On a related note, I don't know if you guys have heard, but Postal (Uwe Boll's newest) has only been able to secure 4 theatres in America so far for its premiere next week. Everyone else is boycotting it because of the 9/11 parody.
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NO WAY! I really wanted to see that movie too.....damnit. I had a huge group of about 15 people who said that they'd see it and another dozen saying that might come......now I'm going to have to let all those people down.
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Everyone else is boycotting it because of the 9/11 parody.
So Uwe Boll finally does something right and nobody will let him show it.
Great.
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On a related note, I don't know if you guys have heard, but Postal (Uwe Boll's newest) has only been able to secure 4 theatres in America so far for its premiere next week. Everyone else is boycotting it because of the 9/11 parody.
Really? Huh, I just assumed it was because of the NC-17 rating and because theater owners have finally wised up to the fact that his movies bomb horribly and therefore aren't worth the screen space. That reason does make sense, though.
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It's not the worst film ever made. That would be Thirteen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_(film)). Incidentally, this film was also 'critically acclaimed'.
It was?
Well, there goes my argument. That movie was pretty terrible.
And, actually, I thought Good Will Hunting was a fucking awful pile of dogshit and it was critically lauded as well.
I guess what I meant was more that Bound was acclaimed by non-mainstream critics. I mean, Titanic was well-reviewed too.
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I am certain that Thirteen is not the worst movie ever. I'd say that distinction goes to Ken Park. I thnk that one also got critically acclaimed and was worse than anything else i have ever seen.
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I have a theory this movie is actually a lovingly constructed PG tribute to Death Race 2000.
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Man, you people have no value scale, honestly.
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I have a theory this movie is actually a lovingly constructed PG tribute to Death Race 2000.
Yeah? Well thank god they didn't put Stallone as the bad guy in Speed Racer.
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I saw the trailer for this the other day and commented that it looks absolutely horrible and yet fairly representative of the old cartoon series.
Guys, the old cartoon series was fucking terrible.
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True. In a race, the background was just a blur of color. It looks like they tried to approximate that in the movie. The background is just a blur of color. Only, you know, hi-tech color.
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I saw the trailer for this the other day and commented that it looks absolutely horrible and yet fairly representative of the old cartoon series.
Guys, the old cartoon series was fucking terrible.
THANK YOU.
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I saw the trailer for this the other day and commented that it looks absolutely horrible and yet fairly representative of the old cartoon series.
Guys, the old cartoon series was fucking terrible.
Yes, but going to Major Video and renting the beta tapes made this (then =p) 5 year old a very happy boy.
That said, those memories will be staying there, happily unmolested by today's "moviemaking."
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With all the hate in this thread for this movie I thought I'd offer my 2 cents as someone who really enjoyed the film.
First, I thought all the racing scenes were fantastic. All the infighting and car acrobatics between the racers was really cool. I also thought the method of panning though all the different people watching the race was a great way of keeping the excitement going. They showed enough of the race so you could actually see what was going on, but still managed to create tension and excitement. I also loved the use of color in the movie. It made it seem more like a cartoon without sacrificing special effects. I'm surprised how much the effects have been criticized...in a day and age where computers can generate pretty much any image I thought it was refreshing to see someone do something "unique" instead of struggling for "better". I also thought the acting was pretty good for a movie was this type...I was totally caught up in the scenes that moved the emotional storyline forward. I don't understand how anyone can dislike Christina Ricci in this film...she is completely adorable, not to mention she looks like an anime character.
My only complaints of this movie are that at times the dialogue is cheesy and the story is kind of predictable...but these things didn't bother me as much as they would in other movies because I was caught up in what I listed above and since its a kids movie.
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bwahaha. this was funny to read. I had the mispleasure of having to work on racer, and yeah I just shouldn't have gone to see it. I do that with a lot of movies I work on actually. Somebody seriously needs to smack the hollywood executives around until they stop making horrible horrible awful movies that shouldn't be made. Sigh. And I'm currently helping finish up Mummy 3 then back to development on effects for G.I. Joe. See what I mean? Bleh. I need to find a different career.
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But loam, think of all the joy you are bringing to people with no taste and/or standards. Surely that is reward enough for a job well done?
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They say that every time a new Saw movie or Adam Sandler movie comes out, crime rates drop all over the States. Seriously. Like I'm not making this up. I'd even link you to article if I wasn't so incredibly lazy. People who make shitty movies are saving lives.
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hahaahh
Whoever said that I had any desire to save lives? There's too many people, not too few ;)
Really the delima is that I'm a visual effects artist and I work at one of the biggest post houses in the world (Digital Domain, the other big ones are ILM, Imageworks, Rhythm & Hues, and WETA). If a movie has the budget to hire us, it's pretty much a given that I'm not going to like it. I just generally dislike big profit-driven films, and ironically I hate effects heavy movies. Sure I know it's what I do, but I wish we got to spend more time working on a few key things that really support a story rather than throwing CGI crap everywhere because we're trying to one-up the last big CGI blockbuster. I think the only film I've worked on at a big studio was Flags of our Fathers. I may go back to a smaller place next to work on more independant productions. We shall see.
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I must be a bad person or something because I am looking forward to Mummy 3 like you wouldn't believe.
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I must be a bad person or something because I am looking forward to Mummy 3 like you wouldn't believe.
It does look like it has the potential to not suck, it just not the sort of thing I prefer. I'm not aware of any reason that having different taste makes ya a bad person.
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I thoroughly enjoyed Alien vs Predator: Requiem. For most people that pretty much seals the deal, as it were.
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I think Steven Colbert said it best when he described Speed Racer as setting off a bunch of fireworks in a dryer and then climbing in with them.
That being said, I was entertained. I dont think it was all that good, but I was entertained.