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Title: Juno
Post by: Bearer on 30 Dec 2007, 22:06
Absolutely hilarious and awesome.  A perfect balance of comedy, deep life lessons, interesting characters, and a worthwhile story.  If you haven't seen it, go.  It's awesome, you definitely won't regret it.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Sugarplum on 30 Dec 2007, 22:29
(http://www.popularpages.net/pics/pregnant-fuck_4_3209_si.jpg)


YES
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Sugarplum on 30 Dec 2007, 22:41
anyway that is summary and also why i liked
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Post by: TwinkyToes on 31 Dec 2007, 00:22
The girl looks really cute, wasn't she in x-men? i do want to see this
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Post by: pentaen on 31 Dec 2007, 03:55
warning, its a great movie but it has some music by Kimya Dawson from the "band" the Moldy Peaches so, if you are like me and not into that, get ready to bolt in the first few minutes.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: michaelicious on 31 Dec 2007, 08:13
How do you know if it's a great movie if you left because of the music?

Also, Ellen Page has a pretty annoying voice.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: MusicScribbles on 31 Dec 2007, 11:28
How do you know if it's a great movie if you left because of the music?

Also, Ellen Page has a pretty annoying voice.

He said that we should get ready to bolt. His post implies that he stayed.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 31 Dec 2007, 11:33
I thought it looked okay.  I heard a little bit about it on NPR, and it caught my interest.  I want to go see it.
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Post by: MusicScribbles on 31 Dec 2007, 12:49
The concept attracts me, and I like this kind of humor. Also, I liked Thank You For Smoking.
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Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 31 Dec 2007, 15:41
Me too, I adore Jason Reitman. :D And I really liked the soundtrack.

Although I'm not really partial to the music by the Moldy Peaches in general, "Anyone Else But You" was pretty adorable.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ozymandias on 31 Dec 2007, 17:11
I really really really loved the movie.

It was smart and funny without sacrificing realism and it was wonderful.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: thehollow on 31 Dec 2007, 18:00
I really liked it as well. The music worked well for what the movie was trying to achieve, but I would hate it in any other situation. The acting was great, and the casting was perfect. I love anything with Michael Cera, and Ellen Page was a pleasant surprise, I'll definitely have to check out some other stuff she's done.
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Post by: Johnny C on 01 Jan 2008, 09:01
"Anyone Else But You" was pretty adorable.

I love that song!
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Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 02 Jan 2008, 13:22
I did just that. I checked out Hard Candy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424136/), and it was fucked up but in a good way!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RobbieOC on 03 Jan 2008, 15:56
I really liked what they did with Jason Bateman and Jennifer Garner's characters. The whole switcheroo they pulled was nicely done.

But, it was dangerously close to making me hate Jason Bateman, which would have been a bad thing. Because I can't not see him as Michael Bluth ever.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ozymandias on 03 Jan 2008, 16:51
^ Yeah. By the end of the basement scene I was kind of mad that I was disliking Jason Bateman. Then I realized that if that character were played by anyone but Jason Bateman, he would've seemed so much more skeevy and awful, so it was okay.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Shadies on 03 Jan 2008, 16:56
Just went and saw it this morning. I love Ellen Page,
 and I agree with ohsweetjesusno, Hard Candy is crazy, Crazy Awesome. Worth checking out.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RobbieOC on 03 Jan 2008, 18:05
It's not OK, Ozy. It's awful. He was funny, had good musical taste, and I just wanted to see him interact with Michael Cera, but no... they had to make him all creepy and stuff.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: doki on 03 Jan 2008, 23:16
i'm looking forward to this
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Post by: Liz on 04 Jan 2008, 11:21
I'm going to see it tomorrow with my sister. Hopefully it will be well worth my money!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 04 Jan 2008, 14:45
I've put off seeing this just because the dialogue seems overly cheeky.  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Caiphana on 04 Jan 2008, 15:34
I really really liked this movie.

The dialogue is interesting.

Spolier? It's four lines and doesn't give anything away except a joke, but whatever. Just in case.. "Spoiler"




Juno: "What brings you to the mall?"
Vanessa (the lady who's adopting Juno's baby): "Oh, I'm just shopping with my girlfriends."
Juno's friend: "You're GAY?!"
Juno: "Ignore her."




/"Spoiler"

That got a lot of laughs in the theater.

There were quite a few loud laughing moments, loud and long enough to miss several lines.

The humor is mostly deadpan, which makes it all the more funny.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: PretentiousYoungSuitors on 04 Jan 2008, 16:58
I thought the movie was wicked awesome, but I do agree with the Moldy Peaches thing, that song's been in my head since i saw the movie last week. 

I had a hard time remembering that she was not sarah silverman, did anyone else see that in ellen page?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 04 Jan 2008, 17:50
Sarah Silverman's like thirty-five, dogg.
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Post by: PretentiousYoungSuitors on 04 Jan 2008, 18:07
i  just meant her acting and her sarcastic lines, but I think she also looks a bit like her.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: thehollow on 04 Jan 2008, 18:11
Didn't really see the resemblance myself. Ellen Page was way funnier in Juno than Sarah Silverman has ever been.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Jan 2008, 18:57
Anyone comparing Ellen Page to Sarah Silverman deserve a punch in the genitals.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 04 Jan 2008, 22:12
Yeah, Sarah Silverman really isn't funny at all.  But this movie was great.  I saw it last night and it was funny and adorable.  I loved it.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: PacoSees on 06 Jan 2008, 05:27
The one downside to seeing it with my sister:

"Man I hope mom and dad are ok when this happens."

No, she didn't say if.

Excellent movie, though, my sister and I learned Anyone Else but You on guitar and banjo after seeing this.
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Post by: PretentiousYoungSuitors on 06 Jan 2008, 09:21
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but yeah i did that too...
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Liz on 06 Jan 2008, 10:39
This is one of the funniest movies I have ever seen. After getting out of the movie I was contemplating hiding in the bathroom so I could go in and see it again. Unfortunately I had to drive my sister back to her apartment so she could go to work, so that didn't happen.

EDIT: A link to download the soundtrack can now be found in the Mediafire thread. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RallyMonkey on 06 Jan 2008, 21:04
I was really worried for the first thirty minutes that the dialogue of the teenagers was going to be the usual "Thirty year old man trying to write cheeky teenagers" thing, and for the first thirty minutes, there was some extremely atrocious dialogue. Yet, after that, it really picked itself up, and I really enjoyed the movie.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 06 Jan 2008, 21:50
This was a smart movie. In fact, the parts of the dialogue that were references that not a whole lot of folks would get (The Melvins, for Christ's sake) were kind of frustrating in that the movie didn't need them and they felt tacked on.

That's not a slight to the writing, the acting or the cinematography, though. Fantastic film.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: StaedlerMars on 07 Jan 2008, 09:10
EDIT: A link to download the soundtrack can now be found in the Mediafire thread. Enjoy!

That is very much appreciated.

My girlfriend loved this movie, I thought it was ok. I really felt like they were trying to prove something (look how obscure we are, maybe). But there were some quite funny bits. Definitely not movie of the year over Superbad.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: SevenPinkerton on 07 Jan 2008, 13:54
The movie has gotten some bad reviews simply for being a super hipster movie, but those people need to wake up and realize the entire intent was to make a super hipster movie with hipster references and a hipster supergirl: a perfect mixture of cynicism and immaturity.

I never expected it to be imitating real life, as it really is just with a super inhuman clever girl as the leading star, but I have to admit the high school relationship was dead on. Too many teenage movies are all over dramatic and completely unrealistic about relationships. The relationship in Juno brought back so many memories of awkwardness, experimentation, lack of commitment, and all the other silliness of being young and stupid. I really appreciated it.

The movie made me laugh so very much and there fore I like it.

Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 18:42
the entire intent was to make a super hipster movie with hipster references and a hipster supergirl: a perfect mixture of cynicism and immaturity.

Terrible idea. If you feel it makes sense for your characters to bond over Sonic Youth covering The Carpenters, that's okay, but the reason that scene works so well is that it subtly but excellently rounds out the characters' personalities. Write a good movie and you won't have to worry about making it seem really culturally relevant because it already is culturally relevant. Thankfully, Diablo Cody wrote a good movie.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Liz on 07 Jan 2008, 18:46
So far Juno has won two critics choice awards, Best Writer and Best Comedy. Here's to hoping it snags a couple more as the night goes on!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Bearer on 07 Jan 2008, 18:52
the entire intent was to make a super hipster movie with hipster references and a hipster supergirl: a perfect mixture of cynicism and immaturity.

Terrible idea. If you feel it makes sense for your characters to bond over Sonic Youth covering The Carpenters, that's okay, but the reason that scene works so well is that it subtly but excellently rounds out the characters' personalities. Write a good movie and you won't have to worry about making it seem really culturally relevant because it already is culturally relevant. Thankfully, Diablo Cody wrote a good movie.
Gasp!  A form of art based on obscure band references!  Why, never can it come to any good!

Seriously some jokes were really obscure though.  I think I was the only one in the theater who laughed when she said, "No, I rock a harmony..." for example.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 19:06
See, I'll try to phrase this once more so that my meaning becomes crystal clear.

Including references is alright. Basing it off references is not cool. At times, scenes skirted that boundary a little closely.

I was interested to hear maybe ten people in the theatre laugh at the Sonic Youth joke ("I bought one of their albums, and it's just noise!") only to discover upon leaving the theatre that I knew all of them.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ampersandwitch on 07 Jan 2008, 19:11
All of the albums, or all of the people who laughed?
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Post by: RallyMonkey on 07 Jan 2008, 19:17
I was the only person in the theater who laughed at that joke, and it was one of my favorite parts.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 20:02
All of the albums, or all of the people who laughed?

Both, really.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ampersandwitch on 07 Jan 2008, 20:22
Okay.
So, should I go see it Y/N?
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Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 07 Jan 2008, 20:24
Yes. :-D
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Post by: Liz on 07 Jan 2008, 20:26
Definately yes.
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Post by: SevenPinkerton on 07 Jan 2008, 20:46
Go see it, but don't expect it to be realistic. Expect it to be more of a comedy show or you'll be disappointed by the lack of depth.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 23:02
I disagree with the last post!

Go see it, and expect just that it is a movie about people who probably actually exist. It succeeds remarkably well for that.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 07 Jan 2008, 23:50
is it a good date movie? i'll probably already have gone on said date before i check for a response but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: PacoSees on 08 Jan 2008, 06:58
I can see it being an excellent date movie if one of you is horrible in bed.
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Post by: pilsner on 08 Jan 2008, 08:17
Excellent date movie.  And I don't like the way you're casting aspersions on the Cera/Page coupling, by all accounts it was quite successful . . . .

My Moldy Peaches album just came in the mail; I'll probably also end up getting the (excellent) soundtrack.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: SevenPinkerton on 08 Jan 2008, 08:27
I love movies that show realistic people. Juno MacGuff is not one of these people. (If she is, where have all these superhumanly laid back, cool, witty, well-dressed girls been hiding?)  I can see the other characters almost existing, but most are nearly all humor and wittiness and no real feelings or seriousness. Everyone has to be serious at some point, especially in situations that take place in Juno. Aside from the relationships, it was very unrealistic and idealistic to me, but very VERY entertaining.

The most realistic character to me was Bleeker and he barely had a role in the movie.

And who on earth would give a baby to a mother in a neighborhood like that in a house that doesn't look like anyone lives in it? Creeeeepy. And weirdly enough, it looks almost identical to my fiance's mother's house.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 08 Jan 2008, 08:47
(If she is, where have all these superhumanly laid back, cool, witty, well-dressed girls been hiding?)

I know at least three who go to my old high school. Never mind the number of them I know in university.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: SevenPinkerton on 08 Jan 2008, 09:07
how do they live? Juno lacks any real-life emotion or depth. She's a walking cynical comedy show. If there are girls out there like this, I'm not sure whether to feel sorry or them or just hang around them for nonstop laughs.

 
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 08 Jan 2008, 09:16
I'm sad to hear that you think the movie lacks any real emotion - if anything, when Juno's jarred out of her distanced, aloof shell the film's emotion is made tangible. There are scenes of despair, ache, joy and passion to rival any other film I've seen this year, they're just included as part of a surprisingly funny film.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: SevenPinkerton on 08 Jan 2008, 09:46
I just found them very lacking and almost forced at the end of the movie. Also, it seemed very out of character for what they presented Juno to be for the first 3/4 of the movie. I guess it was supposed to show her growing up, or something, but I felt they did this very badly and it just seemed to lack any real emotion. It was very sweet at times, though.

Title: Re: Juno
Post by: PatentAbsurdity on 08 Jan 2008, 09:51
It's a supremely entertaining movie. Personally, I found the soundtrack a wee bit saccharine and distracting, but I had been warned ahead of time that it was, and this no doubt colored my opinion.

Otherwise, it was charming, adorable and quirky in all the best ways. Statutory scene was slightly creepy, but forgivable and probably necessary. The characters were occasionally unrealistic and stereotyped, yes, but they were entertaining stereotypes.

Perfectly indie. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: costacide on 08 Jan 2008, 09:55
She's a walking cynical comedy show. 

I actually know quite a few people like that, which is one of the reasons I loved this movie.  That and the Sonic Youth joke, which I don't think will endear me to hipster girls, but whatever. 

I'm surprised that people keep attaching such a "hipster" label to this film, because in comparison to other films it's not.  I mean sure, it's got non-mainstay names in it and semi-obscure musical references (I wonder what Buzz thinks?) but the lack of near-blatant "throwback to the 70's" nonsense that makes me wanna swallow drain cleaner definitely makes it stand apart, methinks.  Also, the fact that they actually used the word ABORTION was a plus.

Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 08 Jan 2008, 10:09
I can see it being an excellent date movie if one of you is horrible in bed.

perfect!
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Post by: SevenPinkerton on 08 Jan 2008, 10:09
what would they use instead of abortion? If there's some sort of slang term, I don't know it but I suddenly want too..
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: costacide on 08 Jan 2008, 13:20
"Schmaschmortion", like in Knocked Up.  Which was a funny movie, but still, it is kinda rare.  At least in a non-politicized heavy-handed manner that would make even a flag-burner like me roll my eyes, give up, and vote for Jesus.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: De_El on 08 Jan 2008, 20:29
I was interested to hear maybe ten people in the theatre laugh at the Sonic Youth joke ("I bought one of their albums, and it's just noise!") only to discover upon leaving the theatre that I knew all of them.

Loved that joke. Loved it sooooo much.

I've seen it twice and I really enjoyed it both times.  It was a tiny bit disappointing that Jason Bateman and Michael Cera didn't have any scenes together, but regardless the dialogue was great (when not overdone, which was occasionally) acting good, plot interesting...is there anything else you need to make a great movie? I also liked that there were things I noticed the second time around (like Bleeker saying "Wizard!") that made it especially worth it to see it again (the primary motivation was to get a friend to see it).
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: thepugs on 08 Jan 2008, 21:10
I just saw it a few hours ago and I have to say I was wonderfully surprised.  I'm not sure why it was surprising that it was as good as it was, but I loved the hell out of it, particularly the soundtrack.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Liz on 09 Jan 2008, 07:37
I linked the soundtrack in the Mediafire thread if you want to head on over there.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: michaelicious on 09 Jan 2008, 08:16
I think it would be a better movie if the "J" in Juno was pronounced like and "H".
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: morca007 on 09 Jan 2008, 10:27
Saw it last night, and I very much enjoyed it.
It's a reassuring, sentimental movie that's still fucking hilarious.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Jan 2008, 13:19
I was interested to hear maybe ten people in the theatre laugh at the Sonic Youth joke ("I bought one of their albums, and it's just noise!") only to discover upon leaving the theatre that I knew all of them.

Loved that joke. Loved it sooooo much.

I'm pretty sure I was the only person in the theater that laughed at that joke, when I saw it.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: De_El on 09 Jan 2008, 17:09
To be fair, it did come at a sort of tense moment. There might have been other people who got it but didn't laugh because of the tone the film was taking. But to honestly think this would require a great deal of faith in humanity, a great deal more than I have.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 17 Jan 2008, 17:52
Well i was pretty dissappointed. i thought it was a pretty good movie, but certainly did not live up to the considerable hype. I guess I was expecting something aas utterly charming and quirk as Little Miss Sunshine, but this one was just trying to hard. I also found all the "i'm a hipster" jokes really self concious and irrelevant. Though I did find the Sonic Youth gag funny.

I did still enjoy it, just not as much as I thought I might.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 Jan 2008, 20:13
Seriously. You thought this was trying to hard compared to Little Miss Sunshine?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Joseph on 17 Jan 2008, 21:33
See, I thought Little Miss Sunshine was no good, tried way too hard, and had only a few enjoyable scenes.

I adored Juno.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Inlander on 18 Jan 2008, 05:13
Just saw it. Loved it. Might need to see it again in a less crowded cinema, so I can hear the lines that people laughed over.

Juno lacks any real-life emotion or depth.

I disagree. Ellen Page's performance is actually, I think, incredibly subtle: at the beginning of the movie Juno is, as you say, a walking comedy show, but it's all front: I think she's actually trying to hide a massive sea of doubt and fear and uncertainty beneath the tough surface, and to me Page manages to convey that through facial expressions and body language and tiny pauses. Like a lot of people, Juno's better at cracking jokes than expressing her genuine emotions. By the end of the movie she's managing to do both.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ledhendrix on 18 Jan 2008, 10:55
I really enjoyed it. I never got to see the end though because the copy my friend downloaded wasn't complete :-(.

SPOILER

I got up to the point where she tells bleaker that she loves him, how long is there left after that scene?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 18 Jan 2008, 11:02
not much, although you did miss a very adorable and awesome cover of a Moldy Peaches song (done by Michael Cera and whatsherface).
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Post by: Gemmwah on 18 Jan 2008, 12:52
I love the end, it's brilliant, and I believe that throughout the entire movie, "Ow ow, fuckity ow" is my favourite line. And that song at the end is really really sweet. I'm glad I downloaded the soundtrack.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 18 Jan 2008, 12:56
yes, the whole soundtrack is wonderful.

i held off on getting it until i saw the movie cause i wasn't sure if i'd be into it or not but the first thing i did after getting back from the movie was download that shit straight away.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Gemmwah on 18 Jan 2008, 13:20
Yeah, I waited until I'd seen it before I downloaded it, but it's so good that I had to grab it. All the songs are just so sweet and make me smile.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: UnidentifiedFlyingCupcake on 18 Jan 2008, 13:24
I loved this movie. I can understand some of the complaints people have made, but personally none of them were seriously annoying to me. Maybe most people aren't like the ones Juno portrays, but some are, and the best thing was that the characters were believable. The movie was so well-made that I didn't feel like I had to nit-pick over a few things that may not have fit exactly. And really, it was just generally excellent comedy--brilliant writing/hilarious dialogue--and phenomenal characterization of what it's like to be a teenager.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 18 Jan 2008, 14:51
I love the end, it's brilliant, and I believe that throughout the entire movie, "Ow ow, fuckity ow" is my favourite line. And that song at the end is really really sweet. I'm glad I downloaded the soundtrack.

Was there a Spinal Tap reference in that scene, or is there really something called a spinal tap for women in labor?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 18 Jan 2008, 14:54
they stick a needle into your spine. it serves many purposes, i believe.

i'm also pretty sure it's extremely painful. i'm not sure what it's actually for.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 18 Jan 2008, 15:02
Epidural. It's actually a lot more painful without it.
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Post by: Gemmwah on 18 Jan 2008, 15:35
Mmm. It just numbs everything from the injection downwards. Then they dose you up with laughing gas.

Ooh, giving birth. What a FUN thing to look forward to.

Shitting a basketball out of your cooter. Great.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Liz on 18 Jan 2008, 17:09
More like a softball. Unless your kid has a huge head.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Gemmwah on 18 Jan 2008, 21:36
Well to be honest, when coming out of there, it's gonna feel like a basketball.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 18 Jan 2008, 22:34
I am so glad that I don't have to deal with that [/gloating]
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Chrasstor on 18 Jan 2008, 23:25
I saw it. It was cute.

Kind of charming, but some of the scenes seemed a tad over the top. That said, still 100 times more realistic than any other movie of this endeavor.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 19 Jan 2008, 16:46
Saw it. The first 20 minutes were excruciating. The dialogue sounds like pureed peppers feel on your junk, especially the Rainn Wilson part. While it got progressively better over time, the script still got irritating here and there throughout.

While the movie definitely has that "indie veneer", it lacked the remoteness of most Anderson-influenced movies like Little Miss Sunshine. In those movies you had characters whose oddness was something of an accessory rather than a quality. There's a gay man, but he's the second most famous Proust scholar in America! And he's suicidally lovelorn for the first! Isn't he Wacky!? Aside from maybe Bleeker's love for tic-tacs, that sort of thing was refreshingly absent from Juno. Most of the characters feel honest and lived-in, and act as real people would. Like a lot of people, I was ready to write the movie off in the first 15 minutes. But when Juno told her parents she was pregnant I started to warm to the film. That's probably due mostly to JK Simmons and Allison Janney, who are dependably excellent as Juno's father and stepmother. Jason Bateman was natural as a self-centered suspended adolescent, and Jennifer Garner was surprisingly convincing as the hopeful mother. It got a little dusty during some of her scenes.

One complaint that I had was with the soundtrack. The last time I was so aware of a soundtrack was while watching Troy. My friend, who hated Juno with a comical passion, said it made him ashamed to like indie rock. I wouldn't go that far, but I did find it unwelcome and distracting at times. They played Boy Least Likely To's "Be Gentle With Me" in the ads, but it didn't make it into the movie, which is a shame, because nothing they played was as good as that song.

I really, really liked it, but then, I'm a mild-mannered and sentimental person, and movies of this nature easily get to me. I can't defend Diablo Cody's script from charges that it's an exercise in self-congratulation, but I thought it made a good movie nonetheless. Better than Little Miss Sunshine. Probably better than The Life Aquatic.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: bryanthelion on 21 Jan 2008, 13:49
I really loved it!

I started to water up in the end.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: costacide on 21 Jan 2008, 19:05

I disagree. Ellen Page's performance is actually, I think, incredibly subtle: at the beginning of the movie Juno is, as you say, a walking comedy show, but it's all front: I think she's actually trying to hide a massive sea of doubt and fear and uncertainty beneath the tough surface, and to me Page manages to convey that through facial expressions and body language and tiny pauses. Like a lot of people, Juno's better at cracking jokes than expressing her genuine emotions. By the end of the movie she's managing to do both.

YES

Definitely the main reason I love it...the pause she takes along with her facial expressions when she tells Bleeker she's pregnant is the first sign of it, but it definitely shines through at points.

I mostly try to sum it up to people by telling them she's like every girl I knew when I was 16...a sort of holier-than-though know it all.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: doki on 22 Jan 2008, 01:32
i saw this today, and i was impressed.  Ellen Page carried it beautifully, nice story decent soundtrack ladidadida
am i the only one a little concerned that the kid from My Best Friend Is An Alien managed to bed Kitty Pride?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: supersheep on 22 Jan 2008, 05:46
I think Inlander got it spot on. I got Juno as presenting a front of sarky sarcasticnessosity to the world rather than actually being supremely cool and laid back - the nerdyish kid who is kinda cool because of the shell they present, maybe.

I thought it was one of the best films I've seen in quite a while. It's in the same category as Amelie for me, I think - a film I would put on at ten or so at night because I have had a crappy day and am feeling kinda down, so that I can go to bed with a smile on my face. I also thought that it was pretty realistic, at least based on what I remember of being around that age.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: chrobae on 22 Jan 2008, 11:49
I agree with the above poster.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: bryanthelion on 22 Jan 2008, 16:26
God Damnit I need to see Amelie
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: littlelove on 22 Jan 2008, 16:33
I loved Juno.
Her character is really great, and really suits her
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: De_El on 22 Jan 2008, 18:43
God Damnit I need to see Amelie

! Shit yeah you do ! Do it now! urgeurgeurgeinfluence
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Eli on 22 Jan 2008, 19:04
**Spoilers in my post.

I really liked Juno. It's a cute movie, although I did find some of the soundtrack annoying, most of it seemed fitting, I think. I found Garner's character to be kinda weird, though. The mall scene is meant to be the "redeeming" point, but I thought it was too small an incident to have Juno make the choice she did.

It is a nice date movie. I saw it with my boyfriend and his family first and my boyfriend and I considered seeing it by ourselves again (but we went to see Charlie Wilson's War instead). He really liked the Sonic Youth and Melvin references and the Thundercats one.

I was sad Cera's character wasn't more in the main line. As the father, I would have thought he would have been. Bateman's character was kinda creepy when he was dancing with Juno. For a moment there, I thought he was going to say he was leaving his wife for Juno.  :| He bonded a lot with Juno and it was an odd turn when he turned out to be a "villian."
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 22 Jan 2008, 20:54
A) The Thundercats part was gold.

B) Good work on putting "villain" in quotes because I'm pretty sure that is actually the wrong word!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 22 Jan 2008, 21:18
**spoilers**

yeah, i thought Bateman was gonna "go for it" for a minute there.

also, the scene with Garner in the mall...at first i didn't get why everyone was ooh-ing and aah-ing...i thought she was kidnapping that kid or something weird like that so when it turned out to be a positive turning-point i didn't really feel it the way i was supposed to.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: chrobae on 22 Jan 2008, 22:54
I also thought he was going to go for it, or he and Juno were going to live together.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ummmkay on 23 Jan 2008, 07:44
AWKWARD SEXUAL TENSION.

Was that scene supposed to be creepy, or what?

edit: man i love pagebreaks.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 23 Jan 2008, 09:32
also, the scene with Garner in the mall...at first i didn't get why everyone was ooh-ing and aah-ing...i thought she was kidnapping that kid or something weird like that so when it turned out to be a positive turning-point i didn't really feel it the way i was supposed to.

The first time I saw the movie, I thought pretty much the same thing.  I was like: "What the hell is she doing?  That's someone else's kid!"  I thought the child was crying and screaming for her mother or something.  Then, when Ellen Page started smiling,  I was thoroughly confused.  I was expecting a reaction somewhere along the lines of: "Oh my god, she's totally obsessed with becoming a mother."  I think it took maybe the second or third time to really figure out what that scene was all about.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Bishop138 on 23 Jan 2008, 10:04
I saw this movie with my sister on Tuesday, I really liked it, I want to see it again, I guess I'll have to wait untill dvd because movies are expensive to see more than once, plus Sweeny Todd is showing, and I want to see that.

The movie had some great subtle humour, the kinda stuff that I love, my sister and I would be laughing at these things when no one else in the theatre was, just small expressions or movements that have been purposefully made.

I LOVE the cover of the The Moldy Peaches song at the end, I ended up downloading the soundtrack, and may well end up buying it, because it's just got some cool tunes in there. But I really can't get enough of that song, it really just sums up the movie in a really beautiful way.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 23 Jan 2008, 16:27
Did you notice that the lyrics are slightly different in the cover? Not only do they shorten it, the roles are flipped. Ellen Page is the one singing about forgiveness and not the other way around. :o
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 23 Jan 2008, 16:28
Yeah, they move the verses around, too.  I still thought it was really good.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Elizzybeth on 23 Jan 2008, 21:43
I'm really sad to hear that so many of you dislike Kimya Dawson.  I've been a fan of The Moldy Peaches for several years now and was thrilled to hear so much of them featured--it means that I can now tell people "I like the Moldy Peaches" and not have to explain how they sound.  (Someday maybe I'll be a real indie kid and only like things other people don't...)

It wasn't a brilliant script (in fact, a couple of lines made me want to bury my face in my hands), but it was so dead-on in the awkwardness and sweetness of so many of the relationships--I particularly liked Juno's relationship with her father.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 23 Jan 2008, 22:09
Silencio, old man!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 24 Jan 2008, 09:46
Jason Bateman needs a role where he can play a chillingly casual villian.

As evidence I cite the part where Juno's crying and Jennifer Garner asks "What did you do to her?"  Then Jason Bateman responds with a "I didn't do anything" that isn't entirely convincing, and even though the audience knows that nothing overtly sexual or malicious happened, his delivery on that line still. Creeped. Me. The fuck. Out.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 24 Jan 2008, 11:44
I'm really sad to hear that so many of you dislike Kimya Dawson. 

who doesn't like Kimya Dawson? show yourself!

i think she is my favorite person-i've-never-heard-of on the soundtrack. maybe second place next to Barry Louis Polisar or whatever but it's a tough call.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 24 Jan 2008, 13:10
I don't particularly enjoy Kimya Dawson's music, no.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 24 Jan 2008, 13:12
As evidence I cite the part where Juno's crying and Jennifer Garner asks "What did you do to her?"  Then Jason Bateman responds with a "I didn't do anything" that isn't entirely convincing, and even though the audience knows that nothing overtly sexual or malicious happened, his delivery on that line still. Creeped. Me. The fuck. Out.

I didn't think it was creepy at all.  It kind of made me angry.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Joseph on 24 Jan 2008, 18:51
Kimya Dawson's music really kind of annoys me.

I just saw Juno for the second time.  I am going to wait a while, until I've grouped my thoughts into words, then will make a proper post.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 24 Jan 2008, 18:59
I'm really sad to hear that so many of you dislike Kimya Dawson.  I've been a fan of The Moldy Peaches for several years now and was thrilled to hear so much of them featured--it means that I can now tell people "I like the Moldy Peaches" and not have to explain how they sound.  (Someday maybe I'll be a real indie kid and only like things other people don't...
As far as I'm concerned, having teeth pulled sans anaesthetic is a preferable experience than listening to the Moldy Peaches. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed them when I was 4 years old, and into that kind of sound.

Actually, that's a lot harsher than it ought to be. I just really, really do not like their sound. Or lyrics. At all.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ozymandias on 24 Jan 2008, 19:05
This was the first time I've been exposed to Moldy Peaches and Kimya Dawson.

I really enjoy them.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 24 Jan 2008, 19:21
Actually just saw it. Damn Good. That is all.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 25 Jan 2008, 04:09
I don't like The Moldy Peaches as a whole, but... "Anyone Else But You" was absolutely adorable.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: AnthroMV on 26 Jan 2008, 09:12
"Now his Junk smells like Pie" When she said that I almost peed my pants...
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jan 2008, 09:22
The portrayal of the girl at the abortion clinic was the only part of the movie that actually bothered me. Everyone else in the film is a real character so why make her a stereotype?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 26 Jan 2008, 15:10
I don't know, the bickering couple in the science class was just as vaguely sketched, as well as Rainn Wilson's character, that font of indie dialogue.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Elizzybeth on 26 Jan 2008, 15:13
Actually, the whole abortion clinic scene bothered me.  From the beginning, Su-Chin protesting alone, shouting, "All babies want to get borned!" but speaking in otherwise perfect English when talking to Juno, seemed strange.  Then there was, as Johnny C points out, the receptionist and her painfully stereotypical piercings and apathy.  And all the scratching and tapping that finally drove Juno out seemed forced, too.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jan 2008, 18:17
No, the scratching and tapping made sense. When you're in an emotionally taut state stuff like that can get to you, especially when you're on the verge of making the decision Juno was planning on making.

I don't remember the science class couple, but Rainn Wilson's character runs the 7-11 nearest my house and his portrayal of her is dead on.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: bryanthelion on 26 Jan 2008, 18:26
I watched Amelie.

I liked it!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 27 Jan 2008, 18:08
I'M A JOCK AND ALLY YOU'RE A LOSER









reaction shot of me when I see you kissing another boy  :-(
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RedLion on 27 Jan 2008, 21:01
Agreed that the relationship between Bateman and Page was a bit creepy at times; specifically, when he revealed to her that he was leaving his wife, and the ensuing debacle. Too bad; I initially really liked his character, especially when she got into his music room.

I laughed the hardest at Page's line when her step-mother informs her of her plans to own dogs after Juno moves out: "WHOA, Dream big!" Her delivery on that line was amazingly hilarious.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 27 Jan 2008, 21:20
What I thought was really creepy is the part where Juno drives to their house, you see the camera linger on his computer, and you know he's reading her blog. Dx
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: malevis on 27 Jan 2008, 21:52
As other people have said I kind of feel like the relationship between Bateman and Juno was unnecessary and could have been left out, but after thinking about it a bit it really did have a good purpose in that in meeting Juno his character was forced to feel like doing what he really wanted to do with his life.  I guess that might not really matter, I thought it was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 27 Jan 2008, 22:21
Just so you all know, the Juno of '08 is looking to be "The Wackness", a quirky comedy coming out of Sundance with an Audience award. It got picked up by Sony Pictures Classics, which doesn't have the track record of Fox Searchlight, but still. And when I say "Juno of '08", I mean "hyped indie comedy that gets pimped for Oscars". It doesn't sound nearly as good as Juno. It sounds worse than Little Miss Sunshine.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Jan 2008, 23:03
"The Wackness."
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Jan 2008, 23:03
"The Wackness."
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: KvP on 27 Jan 2008, 23:26
See, the film takes place in early 90's NYC, where the protagonist pays his therapist (Ben Kingsley!) in pot, and longs after the therapist's daughter, played by the best friend from Juno. So you see, the title refers to 90's hip hop slang, as the protagonist discovers the music of Biggie Smalls during the film.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Inlander on 28 Jan 2008, 14:35
The Wackness.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: reise on 29 Jan 2008, 21:17
I thought it was a good movie.... I think its much better than most teen pregnancy movies that resemble lifetime movies. It wasn't lame and mushy, and I don't think most people would be as relaxed about being pregnant but the humor she had made it good. Plus her character, really, seemed like a very normal every day person and she seems really down to earth in real life too.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 30 Jan 2008, 13:14
I watched Hard Candy the other day.  Holy crap.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 30 Jan 2008, 14:42
Hard Candy's crazy. In a good way.  :-D
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: malevis on 30 Jan 2008, 18:20
Yeah big thumbs up to Hard Candy, the minute I found out that Ellen Page was playing Juno was when I decided that I had to see it. 

Oh god, Hard Candy.  I watched that in the middle of the night totally oblivious to to what it would be about.  I just thought the cover looked interesting, boy was I in for a surprise.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 30 Jan 2008, 20:36
There are few movies that will seize me up and make me grip the edge of my seat.  This one almost literally did.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: avra on 30 Jan 2008, 20:54
I dragged one of my guy friends with me to see it.  I really enjoyed it. 

though I had trouble with the fact that she was so ready to give the baby to this couple she knew nothing about.  i didn't like the lady...she seemed too perfect
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 30 Jan 2008, 21:30
Teenagers are silly and short sighted, but it's obvious that she doesn't have a easy time letting go of the baby. That scene with Michael Cera was so cute.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: imapiratearg on 30 Jan 2008, 21:32
Jennifer Garner's character was the only character that managed to creep me out, at first.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: psyne on 01 Feb 2008, 17:04
I loved Juno. I saw it shortly after New Years, and hadn't actually heard anything about it, just "there's a comedy with Ellen Page as a pregnant teen that looks kinda cute." I went with my roommate, and we were both AMAZED by it. I don't really get the people who say it didn't feel real, though I guess that depends on your experience with reality. To me, that felt more real than anything I've seen in ages. Especially anything with teenagers, which always ends up horribly stereotyped.

The one thing I find really obnoxious is all the people going on about it being over-hyped or over-rated. They tend to get this patronizing attitude like everyone who likes it is being a follower, and they're individuals for not liking it. I don't care if people like it or not but if they don't they can at least accept that it's hyped and highly rated because other people DO like it, not because other people are mindlessly following hype.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: thebrosef on 04 Feb 2008, 22:45
I haven't been as utterly stunned by a movie since I first saw The Royal Tenenbaums. (Which regardless of what you may or may not have to say about it is one of my favorite movies). I really enjoyed Juno. I thought that Ellen Page really did a good job playing a girl who uses comedy to mask her emotions. Particularly in the scene where she first meets the couple that she intends to give the baby to.

As to the criticisms, I thought the abortion clinic was well cast because how fucked up would going to an abortion clinic be as a 16 yr old? About as fucked up as having one of your classmates protesting outside and having the most stereotypical receptionist of all time behind the counter I imagine. I also thought that those two roles were rather hilarious. And as far as the music goes, it didn't really bother me. I spent a lot of my high school days zoning out to music, so to me it just fit the theme. It also kind of went along with the whole, "teenagers have trouble expressing their feelings so they use other means of communicating them" i.e. music and comedy.

Spoiler I guess:

My favorite line was when Juno is going on about how Bleeker is the coolest person she knows without even trying, and he responds "I try really hard actually." Because who didn't feel like that in High School, honestly.

Spoiler Over.


Also, Hard Candy was nothing less than terrifying when I watched it, and as soon as Ellen Page wore a red zip up hoodie in Juno I almost fucking lost it.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 04 Feb 2008, 22:53
It is interesting that Juno's sense of humour just comes off as quirky and adolescent in most early scenes but seems almost uncomfortably weird in the couple's home that first time. Very subtle touch.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 05 Feb 2008, 10:35
spoiler

pretty much my favorite line in the whole movie too.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ohsweetjesusno on 05 Feb 2008, 19:34
spoiler

pretty much my favorite line in the whole movie too.
Seconded. Although that part where Bleeker says "You'd make the meanest wife ever!" was pretty good too, what with it being a reference to the origin of Juno's name earlier in the movie. :-D
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: blanktom on 06 Feb 2008, 09:18
i liked this film, but not as much as i expected.

i was expecting to see a lot more wit on juno's part but it didnt shine through as much as i got in the trailer. at times i found her 'catchphrases' and colloquialisms a tad annoying and too teenager-ish, which i'm sure was intended, but i was hoping she'd be sort of a head above that.

there were several bits i loved, and i think her parents were great, and absolutely loved how paulie's awkwardness made it hard to see what juno found so amazing about him, which highlighted the old 'eyes of the beholder' feel to it all.

dont know if i'd watch it again, but it was fun!
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: ampersandwitch on 01 Mar 2008, 18:41
Just saw this one tonight, so don't mind me all posting in a hibernating thread.

Didn't like all of the hipsteresque name droppin' and shootin the shit for no reason really pertinent to the film, and the part where the stepmom tells that one ultrasound specialist or whatever to get a "real job" was just painful, as was whatever that ridiculous line about an etchasketch.  I cannot remember exactly how it goes (doodles being undid, or something), but I do not want to. 
I can't have been the only person who hated Juno's character.  She was too perfect, too capricious, too much of a jerk sometimes, and never really got told off for it.  Everyone else seems to love her or have a friend "just like her," but oh man, if she existed in real life (which is impossible - a weird girl who chooses to be weird but is not weird at all simultaneously, sporting none of the weird girl stigma?  blasphemy) people would hate her for all of her needless, irritating sass (Gerta Rrrraus).  It's like Ghost World all over again, and I loved Ellen Page in Hard Candy, so I know it's not her.
Additionally, they all speak like Diablo Cody.
Movies by bloggers for bloggers about bloggers.  What a concept.
This post is not to say that I actively hated the movie, sitting there like Waldorf from the Muppets.  Several parts were endearing - the father was too reminiscent of my own to not make me miss him.
Any feelings I have toward the movie in either direction, though, does not change the fact that Juno was Jove's wife, not Zeus's. 
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Mar 2008, 00:11
She doesn't have the "weird girl" stigma? She has, what, three friends?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Sox on 02 Mar 2008, 05:53
You say that like three friends isn't a large number.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Mar 2008, 09:10
I don't know what I can tell you without breaking your heart, kid.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: Sox on 02 Mar 2008, 10:30
 :?

I saw Juno a few hours ago. Some dialog raised a chuckle, but after it ended I still felt like I had wasted my time. I managed to avoid it this long because I never thought it looked very good, but so many people I look up to enjoyed the movie that I gave it a chance. My complaints are basically the same as Ampersandwitch's complaints.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: StaedlerMars on 04 Mar 2008, 14:03
Just saw this one tonight, so don't mind me all posting in a hibernating thread.

Didn't like all of the hipsteresque name droppin' and shootin the shit for no reason really pertinent to the film, and the part where the stepmom tells that one ultrasound specialist or whatever to get a "real job" was just painful, as was whatever that ridiculous line about an etchasketch.  I cannot remember exactly how it goes (doodles being undid, or something), but I do not want to.

"that ain't an etchasketch kid" as juno shakes the pregnancy test. I actually thought that was one of the better one-liners of the movie.

I thought - morally/politically - a good point that the movie raised was that abortion is an option. It didn't just ignore it all together, and it also said that choosing not to get an abortion is also an option.

I would totally see a movie named 'The Wackness'.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: rancidhooligan on 05 Mar 2008, 17:24
I adored Juno.  I thought it was quite well-written with an amazing female protagonist who at the same time snarky and vulnerable.

It was like watching a really well-written but sarcastic love letter in film form.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RedLion on 05 Mar 2008, 17:47
A lot of people who didn't see the movie before it got all of the buzz around it seems to have wound up overestimating it. It wasn't ever meant to be some kind of revelatory movie. It's just a quirky, ironic, funny, and sincere indie movie. If you just take it for what it is and not try to make it into something bigger, it's really a great movie.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: rancidhooligan on 05 Mar 2008, 17:59
I couldn't agree more.  I didn't have any expectations about it going in and I was expecting something like Knocked Up but was pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: RedLion on 05 Mar 2008, 19:39
Well..thanks for agreeing with me, hah, but that was pretty contradictory:

I didn't have any expectations about it going in and I was expecting something like Knocked Up but was pleasantly surprised.

You had no expectations, but expected it to be like Knocked Up?
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: rancidhooligan on 06 Mar 2008, 13:00
Ha!  That was a poorly worded sentence.  Apologies...

What I meant to say was that I thought it was going to be like a better version of Knocked Up, I hadn't heard all the "Juno is the best movie ever made" hype so I wasn't expecting it to be Citizen Kane.  I had some expectations, but not the same expectations a lot of people seem to have had.
Title: Re: Juno
Post by: negative creep on 12 Mar 2008, 18:27
I'm pretty sure I was the only person in the theater that laughed at that joke, when I saw it.

Ditto.

So, i saw this movie tonight, but I didn't expect it (it was a so called Sneak Preview, I don't know if that kind of stuff is common in your part of the world, but I assume it is), which made it actually even better. I really liked it.

The scene in the mall is even more funny in German, because Juno's friend says (re-translated, of course): "So you like... CHICAS?" That made me laugh really hard.