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Fun Stuff => CHATTER => Topic started by: Narr on 05 Jan 2008, 14:52
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This thread is for the discussing of football. Because football is fun!
As of the time I'm posting this, Seattle leads at home against the Redskins. Their D is holding up excellently. I don't think the Redskins have a chance unless they can find something to change during halftime for a second half rally.
I'm excited for the Steelers/Jaguars match later today. I know they just met earlier in the season, but I think it should be a good game. I'm not sure the Steelers will be able to win without Willie Parker, though.
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Agreed on the Redskins/Falcons game, unsure abouth the Steelers/Jags game
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Seahawks. Seattle is the Seahawks. Fucker.
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I think, like everyone else it seems, that the Jags are gonna win tonight. The Steelers just are not firing on all cylinders with all the injuries they have and the Jags defense and running game have been doing stellar as of late. And Garrard just doesn't make stupid mistakes (i think he has maybe 3 ints all year)
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I'm in a pool on this, and I actually picked the Jaguars to not only win tonight but beat New England next week and go on to win the Super Bowl. They've been the best team in terms of momentum down the last few games of the season and their defense is great, and those are the two most important things in postseason football. On top of that, they have the best rushing game in the league, and if the weather in Foxboro is typical January New England weather, then it's gonna be hard as shit to throw and that's what the Patriots have done all season. Of course, I might have picked that upset just because I'm really, really fucking sick of hearing about how Tom Brady is the second coming of Christ.
But I thought Washington would beat Seattle, so maybe I'm just totally misjudging all of this.
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Playoffs? Playoffs? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM)
Sorry, no playoffs thread is complete without Jim Mora.
David Garrard 4th down QB draw was a gutsy call. Hell of a game.
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I'm really, really fucking sick of hearing about how Tom Brady is the second coming of Christ.
Dogg you think you got it bad, I LIVE in New England. He could cold shoot a bitch in the face in Faneuil Hall and fuckers would be all "I hope the gun's recoil hasn't injured his throwing arm"
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As a San Francisco fan, I'm looking forward to seeing how the Niners do in the playoffs this year. Oh, wait. Fuck.
I guess I'll pull for the Seahawks because of Northwest solidarity or something like that, but mostly I'm just rooting against Green Bay, Dallas, and New York. As for Brady, I'm also sick of hearing about how great he is, but that doesn't actually mean he *isn't* that great. I don't think I could bring myself to bet against him. Vince Young, on the other hand, I can bet against. I feel good about San Diego's chances in the second half, even though they haven't been able to do anything here yet. It's unfortunate how much less interesting today's games have been, so far, than yesterday's games. That Seattle/Washington fourth quarter was insane, I'm not sure when I've seen more of a pendulum effect with the momentum in a game than that.
Also, since there certainly isn't a need for TWO football threads on this forum, this seems like the best place to ask: What are people's thoughts on Ohio State vs. LSU tomorrow?
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Seahawks. Seattle is the Seahawks. Fucker.
My bad. Jesus...
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Hoo boy did San Deigo almost fuck it up today. They should have played the entire game the way they played the second half. Yikes.
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What are people's thoughts on Ohio State vs. LSU tomorrow?
LSU will probably win. Too many factors to evenconsider, but mainly they play in a tougher conference, leading to more seasoned players, and they have a pair of mobile quarterbacks capable of running rings around OSUs D with a spread offense.
On a more superstitious note, the only three OSUgames I've missed in recent times were vs Penn in 05, the championship last year, and the Illinois game this year. Assuming the pattern holds, if I watch the championship, they will win.
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As a San Francisco fan, I'm looking forward to seeing how the Niners do in the playoffs this year. Oh, wait. Fuck.
I guess I'll pull for the Seahawks because of Northwest solidarity or something like that, but mostly I'm just rooting against Green Bay, Dallas, and New York. As for Brady, I'm also sick of hearing about how great he is, but that doesn't actually mean he *isn't* that great. I don't think I could bring myself to bet against him. Vince Young, on the other hand, I can bet against. I feel good about San Diego's chances in the second half, even though they haven't been able to do anything here yet. It's unfortunate how much less interesting today's games have been, so far, than yesterday's games. That Seattle/Washington fourth quarter was insane, I'm not sure when I've seen more of a pendulum effect with the momentum in a game than that.
Also, since there certainly isn't a need for TWO football threads on this forum, this seems like the best place to ask: What are people's thoughts on Ohio State vs. LSU tomorrow?
I'm rooting for Jacksonville and Green Bay, to a lesser extent San Diego. And as a suffering Niners fan myself, how the fuck can you root for Dallas, sir?
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He said he was rooting against them.
I hate Dallas. I hope its Pac V Pats for the Superbowl. That would be an awesome game.
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Even though I am a Pats fan I am kind of hoping they lose in the playoffs. Honestly it's quite boring when your home team wins every single game, and you feel like a douchebag for rooting for them.
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I'm rooting AGAINST Dallas. How dare you even INSINUATE otherwise? I'm also rooting against everyone else who has knocked the Niners out of the playoffs at some time in my life, hence, rooting for the Seahawks to reach the Super Bowl by default.
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If you're from there, you are forgiven Jeph. I'm not saying that just because you sort of own this site, but because it's the truth. The thing about me, if it was ANY OTHER TEAM, I'd probably be "yay now there will be someone alongside the perfect '72 Dolphins" but the fact it happens to be a team I utterly loath sort of ruins the fun of a perfect season.
As for the games this weekend:
Seahawks/Redskins: I wouldn't say it's as much the Seahawks winning it as the Redskins losing that game. I like Seattle, but they're going to have to step it up a notch if they want to beat Green Bay AT HOME next week. Farve does not lose on his home turf very often. I'm pretty sure he's the only man on earth that can throw the ball when it's -15 below outside and actually find his receivers. I am pretty sure Green Bay will win next week.
Jacksonville/Pittsburgh: Pittsburgh beat themselves that game, and entirely in the first half. If even a single one of those interceptions didn't happen, or hell, one of them didn't result in a touch-down, they'd have won. Ifs don't mean a lot, though. It was a well-matched game against two of the better teams, but Pittsburgh's abysmal first half ruined their shot at actually winning. Jacksonville didn't look to great, though, for having one of the better defenses. Their defense can't let Brady do to them what Roethisberger did in the second half of this game, because it's Tom Brady and he can do that even when a defense is playing their best. I'm fairly sure that Gerard will have a better game against the Pats than he did against the Steelers, though. Now that he's got that playoff win, I think he'll be a lot more poised and go back to his nearly perfect self that he was during the regular season. I think it'll be the most interesting match of next week.
Giants/Bucs: The Bucs only showed up for their first series and then bam, they were terrible. Credit goes to the Giants, though. I've been impressed with their performance both this week and the final regular season game they had against the Patriots. They've got some momentum going for them. If their offense continues to be as productive as it's been, I like their chances against the Cowboys next week. The fact the game's in Dallas might actually be detrimental for the Cowboys because if Jessica Simpson attends again, Romo will flub all his passes thinking about the excellent pussy he's going to get that night. (I can't really blame him. My hands would be shaky if I had a girl with a body like that waiting for me after a game.)
Chargers/Tennesee: I didn't catch the game, to be honest. I was at a friend's so we had a few LAN games of TF2 and I sort of didn't watch it. Seems like the Titans only scored two field goals, so I guess that means San Diego's D held up well. It's not like them to only score 17 points in a game, though. Someone with more info care to share how they thought they played? I like the Chargers. Now that they're past the first round (meaning their coach won't get fired at the end of the season for no good reason like last year!) i think some pressure is relieved and they'll play better next week. Unfortunately for them, it's against Indy, and now that Manning's finally got himself a super bowl win, I doubt he'll playoff bonk as he's been prone to do in the past. I gotta give the win to Indianapolis.
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Not really directly related to American Football, but this thread's got me thinking. In the 2002 World Cup South Korea was beaten in a semi-final by Turkey. After the match one of the Turkish players was quoted in the media as saying something along the lines of how South Korean fans shouldn't be sad, because now Turkey were playing for them, too. Ever since then I've been following this kind of philosophy with regards to sporting contests: rather than hating the team that defeats my team, instead I cheer for that team and wish them all the best. They carry the spirit of my team with them. This has made viewing sport a much happier and more fulfilling thing for me than it previously was. I suggest everybody try it out, at least once! It's nice!
Also, can someone remind me what date the Superbowl's on again?
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Romo will flub all his passes thinking about the excellent pussy he's going to get that night.
man I could not get excited about a girl's sweaty betty if I knew Bam Margera had jizzed in it in the past
(sweaty betty is a new term i came up with today so i am trying it out)
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Inlander, I do that in some cases. I rooted for Florida in the NCAA Tourney last year after they beat Oregon. It's kind of nice when the team that beat you wins the championship, because then you can at least pretend that you were *obviously* the second best team. On the other hand, though, rivalries are a major part of what I love about sports, and hating teams and rooting against them can be almost as satisfying as rooting for the team you love. So... fuck the Cowboys.
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(sweaty betty is a new term i came up with today so i am trying it out)
It is simultaneously wholesome yet vaguely disgusting.
A bit like porridge, I guess.
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I don't follow football all that much, and I have always been a Packer's fan. Yet, I find myself hoping that the Pats win the whole shebang. It would just be fairly depressing for them to do this well, only to be knocked out in the play offs, or even worse, the super bowl. Yet, from the few games I have seen this year's team play, they really deserve all the praise they have been getting.
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Wow, a lot of Dallas-haters in here! Don't be mad when we win it again...
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That's because everyone outside of Texas hates the Cowboys because they're fucking obnoxious. Good luck winning without TO, though. You'll sure as hell need it.
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I have decided that the Patriots do, in fact, need to win the Super Bowl this year. They have a fair few older players on their roster, and the way I see it if they actually go the whole season without losing a game, the older guys on the team will realize that their careers cannot get better than it is at that moment, and they will decide to retire (Moss is a key example of this). After this occurs, the Patriots will become fucking human again, as opposed to the demi-gods they have been raised to by all this fucking hype.
Also, as a hardcore Redskins fan, I can look past them being beaten by Seattle. Seattle has beaten them in both of the past two first-round matchups they've met in, and last time Seattle ended up making it to the Super Bowl. Plus, Washington beat Dallas by 21 (a sign? ohyes.) to get into the playoffs.
If that wasn't enough, they held Dallas to 1 rushing yeard.
ONE. Lowest team rushing total in Dallas' franchise history.
Bitches.
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I'm really, really fucking sick of hearing about how Tom Brady is the second coming of Christ.
Dogg you think you got it bad, I LIVE in New England. He could cold shoot a bitch in the face in Faneuil Hall and fuckers would be all "I hope the gun's recoil hasn't injured his throwing arm"
Nah dude. He'd have his O-Line shoot the bitch so he could just stand around in the pocket for like a minute before doing anything.
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I have decided that the Patriots do, in fact, need to win the Super Bowl this year. They have a fair few older players on their roster, and the way I see it if they actually go the whole season without losing a game, the older guys on the team will realize that their careers cannot get better than it is at that moment, and they will decide to retire (Moss is a key example of this). After this occurs, the Patriots will become fucking human again, as opposed to the demi-gods they have been raised to by all this fucking hype.
You think Moss will retire if the Pats win? I highly doubt that. In fact, if they win it all, he'll probably stick around in the league as long as Jerry Rice did because he'll always be able to go "I'm a super bowl caliber wide reciever, my team will always win" even if they suck it up.
And I think everyone on the Pats already realizes their careers cannot get any better than it is right now. They seem the type to try and ride it for as long as possible, though. Look at how LONG they've been on top of the league. Even when they're not the #1 team, they beat the #1 team in the playoffs.
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Replace Moss with Junior Seau and I think you've got it.
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That's because everyone outside of Texas hates the Cowboys because they're fucking obnoxious. Good luck winning without TO, though. You'll sure as hell need it.
Against the Giants? I'm not too worried about it. And I'm pretty sure T.O. is going to suit up for the game...even if he's not 100%, it'll help. We still have Barber and Witten!
Good luck with the draft this year, Bryan!
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As a Seahawks fan, the game against the Redskins was amazing... Well, mainly just that last quarter. :P
I don't pay much attention to football though, so I'm just going to (maybe?) watch the ones with Seattle playing. I hope there's more than just two of those. :lol:
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The last quarter of the Seahawks game really was the most exciting part, mostly because before that, the Seahawks almost screwed it up. It was a good end of the game though. I thought the end of the Pittsburgh/Jacksonville game was even more exciting though. A lot of risks were taken in the end of that game, something you really don't see too often. Like going for the 2-point conversion.
I'd really like to see the Pats blow it in the end, mostly because I think Tom Brady's a jerk. I'd love to see San Deigo go to the Bowl, because they're the team I root for when I'm not rooting for Denver (who, regrettably, were almost not worth rooting for this year), but the way they played yesterday leads me to believe that they may not have it all together, unfortunately. I guess it doesn't help when the media just talks and talks about the fact that they hadn't won a playoff game in however many years, etc. Sometimes I wish you could just tune out the color commentators.
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Against the Giants? I'm not too worried about it. And I'm pretty sure T.O. is going to suit up for the game...even if he's not 100%, it'll help. We still have Barber and Witten!
Beating the Giants isn't the same as 'winning it all'. But you're right, if there's anything that strikes fear into the hearts of opposing defenses, it's Marion Barber.
And to hell with you, we drafted the Defensive Rookie of the Year last time. Better than anyone the Cowboys got.
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Pats are going to lose to the Jags, Cowboys might beat NY but if they do they still have to face The Packers and I don't see Farve losing to the cowboys twice.The cowboys and the Pats are both playing poor football right now...I mean the pats almost lost eli manning....Peyton maybe but eli? I really hope that the colts beat the crap out of the chargers...Phillip Rivers is cocky asshole and i really want him to get his ass served on a plate. I am predicting a Packers/Colts Superbowl but I wont rule out the Jags...either way the Packers win, Brett get the MVP then retires. Going out on top.
Don't worry Pats fans they'll win it next year.
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@Maz: I totally agree. Jacksonville will make NE their bitches, for sure. I have been cheering for the Patriots since they BLEW THE CHARGERS TO PIECES in the playoffs, and I have always had a soft spot for them. Just cause they are cool. Also, I really want to see Brady do well. He is totally my hero, I mean, how many people can say they got two super-models pregnant at the same time? That's what I thought.
But game wise, here is why the Jags will beat the Pats:
Everytime someone has stepped up to the Pats and brought a smash-mouth game, running the ball north and south, and especially draws and outside handoffs, the Pats have struggled. They were made to bea the Colts, so don't try passing, and they are too big in the box to run straight at them. So run the edges, and I mean absolutely work it. Set up a passing game for yourself, but don't rely on it, and they will be going after your QB. Once that happens run ALOT of draws. They get so much penetration it's not funny, so draws. Then mix it with a few off tackle runs, and you will get lot's of yards. Just bring it to them all day, run early, run often, and by the fourth quarter Vrabel, Bruschi and Seau (also known as the Linebackers of the Stone Age) will be so tired they won't stop a single thing. I predict 38-28, Jacksonville.
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Against the Giants? I'm not too worried about it. And I'm pretty sure T.O. is going to suit up for the game...even if he's not 100%, it'll help. We still have Barber and Witten!
Beating the Giants isn't the same as 'winning it all'. But you're right, if there's anything that strikes fear into the hearts of opposing defenses, it's Marion Barber.
And to hell with you, we drafted the Defensive Rookie of the Year last time. Better than anyone the Cowboys got.
Yeah, because you guys were so awesome on defense...
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I guess this is revenge for the cricket thread huh? At least I kind of understand cricket.
Go Redskins
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Pats are going to lose to the Jags, Cowboys might beat NY but if they do they still have to face The Packers and I don't see Farve losing to the cowboys twice.The cowboys and the Pats are both playing poor football right now...I mean the pats almost lost eli manning....Peyton maybe but eli? I really hope that the colts beat the crap out of the chargers...Phillip Rivers is cocky asshole and i really want him to get his ass served on a plate. I am predicting a Packers/Colts Superbowl but I wont rule out the Jags...either way the Packers win, Brett get the MVP then retires. Going out on top.
Don't worry Pats fans they'll win it next year.
I don't get how anyone could underestimate the Pats at this point. That is probably Jacksonville's biggest help going into next week's game, to be honest, because they know they have to bring their A game and then some. The Jags won't be able to beat New England if they played like they did against Pittsburgh, either. If it wasn't for two huge, monumental interceptions in that first half, the Steelers had Jacksonville's number.
@ Leinad: They're old but the only one of those 3 that ever seems to get tired is Seau. I don't know how Vrabel and Bruschi do it. I do agree that the Jags need to keep New England's offense off the field, though, which is why running the ball will be paramount.
Even if Jacksonville somehow manages to defeat Perfection®, they won't get past the Colts. Indianapolis has had Jacksonville's number for a long time, and I don't see that changing any time soon. They trounced the Jags twice already in the regular season THIS YEAR, something they've seem to have done for a number of years now.
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OSU got fucked by the refs. Pulling back the OSU TD was just a plain bad call, and the roughing the kicker penalty displays that that rule needs to be amended.
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Dude, I'm a Big Ten homer and was trying to convince myself of something positive that came from that game, but there's just nothing. OSU got handled. That's it. LSU scored whenever the hell they wanted. Don't blame the refs, LSU was better by 20 points, garbage time touchdowns be damned.
PS- I hope Brett Favre and the Packers and all of Lambeau Field are swallowed into the fiery pits of hell. The Vikings may have never won the Super Bowl, but at least they haven't had to play half their games in Milwaukee just to get people to watch them (the 1980's).
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I don't see Farve losing to the cowboys twice.
Favre has NEVER beaten the Cowboys in Dallas. Your theory fails.
Don't get me wrong, I want the Packers to beat Dallas and their Simpson-sniffing QB, but I had to point out that glaring error.
They get so much penetration it's not funny,
Clipped for pure toilet humor.
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You think Moss will retire if the Pats win? I highly doubt that. In fact, if they win it all, he'll probably stick around in the league as long as Jerry Rice did because he'll always be able to go "I'm a super bowl caliber wide reciever, my team will always win" even if they suck it up.
And I think everyone on the Pats already realizes their careers cannot get any better than it is right now. They seem the type to try and ride it for as long as possible, though. Look at how LONG they've been on top of the league. Even when they're not the #1 team, they beat the #1 team in the playoffs.
Yeah I thought about that and you're probably right.
So now it's different, the Pats are going to lose to the Jags this weekend, who will lose to the Colts next weekend, who will beat the Packers in the Super Bowl.
Good though Brett Favre may be, Peyton Manning is my boy. As much as I love the Redskins, the Colts make up like half my fantasy lineup year in, year out.
Go Redskins
Doesn't it feel good? C'mon, let it out.
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I'm really, really fucking sick of hearing about how Tom Brady is the second coming of Christ.
To be fair, the other day I saw Tom Brady turn a clay pigeon into a live pigeon and then throw it two hundred yards in a perfect spiral.
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And Randy Moss, TB's throwing arm man, catches it for touchdown 24-30!
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Should we take predictions on the scores of the coming games? I've always been terrible at it but i mean... it's fun.
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Patriots 28 - Jaguars 17
Colts 24 - Chargers 10
Cowboys 35 - Giants 20
Seahawks 31 - Packers 27
Don't know if anyone other than Narr wanted this but I thought it sounded fun as well. I pretty much suck at this, or god hates me so don't be surprised if these all go completely opposite.
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Jags 28 pats 24
Colts 27 Chargers 10
Giants 24 cowboys 21
Packers 31 seahawks 13
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Colts - 24, Chargers - 23. (Inverse of their regular season game!)
Pats - 34, Jags - 24
Giants - 21, Cowboys - 17 (Cowboy O has been playing like crap for a few weeks now and Romo thinks he can get away with going on vacation instead of sticking to their guns. Giants are totally going to win.)
Packers - 28, Seahawks - 12
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While it's true that Bruschi and Vrabel are more or less the gods of Linebacking and don't get tired, they rarely make it to the edge fast enough to stop plays. They will stop anything in the box, but other than that, forget it. I really don't think that the Jags will win, nor do I want them to, I am just saying they have the best chance of anyone. What I really think will happen is this:
The Jags will come out determined to play smashmouth football, and run it like crazy, but they won't attack the edges enough, or will throw to many screens, which plays in NE's hands big time. Then they will try to pass which lead to three sacks and an interception by halftime. The New England offense will barely be on the field, but only because the Jags secondary is not good enough. They will be helped by the predicted horrible weather, but it won't be enough. Halftime score will be 21-6.
Second half goes the same as the first, but with more interceptions by the Pats, more sacks by the Pats, and the final score will be 45-20.
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Green Bay 24, Seattle 17
New England 31, Jacksonville 17
Indianapolis 27, San Diego 17
Dallas 27, New York 20
Or so the pointspreads and over/unders would suggest :p
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Vrabel
I don't care how good of a linebacker he is, every catch the man has made was for a touchdown.
He has ten catches, ten touchdowns on his career. He's a linebacker.
this doesn't happen.
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It does when you're Mike fucking Vrabel.
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And the funny thing is teams never seem to cover him when he comes into the game during goalline situations. Hello the Patriots like to throw to Mike Vrabel when they're inside the 3! Why don't you try covering him?
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Seriously! People are like "Bwadawhuh, derrr.... Vrabel can't catch..."
And then TOUCHDOWN!
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I'm surprised other teams haven't tried to adopt the Vrabel style thing into their play. The Pats use him on goalline because he's more than big enough to block, he's got good hands, and he's really tall. That's PRECISELY what you want on any goal line drive! Don't give me some skinny wide receiver that can't handle getting banged around. Gimme someone that'll pound your teeth into your skull.
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Mike Vrabel is even the designated receiver for onside kicks, check the end of the Giants game two weeks ago. It makes sense I would rather hit some skinny receiver than a big line backer if I was trying to dislodge a ball.
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Vrabel= Testicles of The Righteous.
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Too awesome
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Are any of you guys watching the Packers/Seahawks game? Holy crap, mangs. I didn't expect this at all. Turnovers have been the name of the game so far.
How about Atari Bigby, huh? That guy is out for blood. All his hits have been huge today.
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Bigby is sick, the snow is awesome, Shaun Alexander is terrible (Maurice Morris PLEASE?), and Brett Farve = Superman. I hope the Hawks can keep it close enough to remain worth watching, because football in this weather is a fantastic thing.
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I don't know what happened to Alexander. Two years ago he was one of the best backs in the league and since then he's just been a consistent disappointment. The difference this year is that Hasselbeck is playing so well it doesn't matter, at least not until now. I guess age just caught up with him or something.
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Even though it's been rather one-sided, this is one of the most fun matches of football I've ever watched. BobJoeJim summed it up just about perfectly.
If Green Bay keeps this up, I wouldn't be surprised to watch them win the Super Bowl. Seeing as my team's out of the playoffs now (Steelers), I'm pulling for Green Bay the rest of the way, just because of how awesome this one game has been. That, and I'd like to see Farve retire with another championship ring.
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You do know you're actually allowed to throw an incomplete pass every now and then, right Brady? 16/16 in the second half is absolutely nuts. Even more amazing, the Patriots aren't actually ahead at this moment.
Edit: Awesome, he throws his first incompletion AS I POST THIS.
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Grrrrrrr...I despise Brady and his trickeration
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Who else feels like driving to Foxboro and stabbing Bill Bellacheat in the neck?
I know I do.
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You're just upset because New England is clearly the superior part of the country.
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Wait, Ally, are you serious?
Is she being serious? I cannot tell if that is a joke or not.
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She's deadly serious, Bryan.
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Superior to Jacksonville, yes. Superior to all other parts of the country? Well actually it would have a shot if the Pacific Northwest didn't exist :)
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Interception at second and goal? Ouch.
Also, Ally was right. In general, New England is greater than the rest of you peons.
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Stop, stop. My sides are splitting.
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TheGreenRanger: Considering I've been watching primarily the Pats, I'm not used to this whole incomplete pass thing the Colts and Chargers are trying. Can't say it's a strategy I would get behind.
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That would be funnier if the Chargers and Colts didn't have a combined completion percentage of 76% right now...
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It's kind of astounding me that San Diego is playing so well despite essentially fielding their second string right now.
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Indy will probably still get one last shot. San Diego will be punting with what, 25 seconds left or so? This has been a fantastic game. Combined with the NE/JAX game yesterday and all the snow in Green Bay, this has the potential to be the best overall round of playoff games I've ever seen if the Giants and Cowboys do their part this afternoon.
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Thank Christ. I did not feel like dealing with rematch hype bullshit.
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Good job, Indy. You choked in the playoffs again. The Colts are like the Greg Norman of football.
Indianapolis needs to stop doing so well in the regular season. They are an absolutely terrible team coming off of by-weeks. I just now realized the only Super Bowl they've won in the past 10 years, despite being one of the best teams in football, was the ONE YEAR they were a Wild-Card team.
Congrats to the Chargers, though. They stepped it up when they needed to. If LT and Rivers are healthy again for next week (and I have every reason to believe they will be seeing as the injuries they got only barely took them out of THIS game) then they have a chance against New England. Of course, every team has had a CHANCE but none have capitalized on it.
Also I wouldn't be caught dead in the New England part of the country. It smells funny and the roads are so small. :(
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I agree. I am very glad that the Chargers won. Of course, you can argue this is a rematch of the divisional playoffs of Pats vs. Chargers last year.
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I wanted to see Peyton vs. Brady, not for any specific rooting interest but just as a fan of football, but kudos to San Diego for playing a great game.
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Seriously Tom Coughlin,
Three running plays and out on the last drive.
Then you run two straight times and get nothing on the next drive and then manning gets sacked trying to pass on third down.
Terrible play calling. Just terrible.
You are so lucky your injured defense pulled it out for you
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Giants - 21, Cowboys - 17 (Cowboy O has been playing like crap for a few weeks now and Romo thinks he can get away with going on vacation instead of sticking to their guns. Giants are totally going to win.)
ALKDHGKJHAKJEHRF I SHOULD HAVE PUT MONEY DOWN ON THIS GAME AT THE BOOKIES. SDLFSKERHGKLJSHEKGJLHSERLKJGSKLJHFSKDJFKLSJDFKLJSDLKFJSDKJFLKJAHGEKJLH (edit: I wasn't that far off on the New England/Jacksonville game, either.)
Anyway,
I agree that Coughlin's playcalling on the last two drives the Giants had was nothing short of retarded, but it still worked out in the end.
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It worked out especially good for me, considering I'm a Packers fan.
I doubt the Giants injured secondary can hold our wide receivers or Ryan Grant, especially not in Lambeau.
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Pats vs. Green Bay! Pats vs. Green Bay!
Then at the end of the game Brett Favre eats Tom Brady's brains
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That would be the greatest game ever
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TOM HEY TOM IT'S ME BRETT
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BRETT I'M NUMBER ONE! I'M NUMBER ONE!
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TOM CAN I EAT YOUR BRAINS
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NO BRETT I NEED MY BRAINS
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BUT TOM YOUR BRAINS ARE SO DELICIOUS
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BRETT YOU CAN NOT EAT MY BRAINS I AM WEARING A HELMET
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TOM I CAN BITE THROUGH HELMETS
WITH MY MOUTH
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BRETT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO BITE THROUGH HELMETS
BUT CAN YOU BITE THROUGH...
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MY AMAZING MAN-BEAUTY
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TOM I AM COMING TO EAT YOUR BRAINS
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NOT ON MY WATCH MISTER
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GROMPH HOMPH HOMPH
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AUGH NO MY BRAINS
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Fuck the Cowboys whooooooooo!
To be honest, I'd prefer to see San Diego - Green Bay. Although it would be cool to see New England vs. Green Bay provided that Favre proceeds to kick the shit out of Tom Brady to preserve the karmic order. Like, figuratively, not literally. Although at this point I would be honestly OK with either. What I am trying to say is that right now the Patriots are basically completely fucking insufferable. Maybe this was what everyone else in the country was feeling back when the Niners were destroying everyone in the 80s but I wasn't alive for the majority of that and not cognizant of football for the rest, so it doesn't count.
Also that was basically the best post ever.
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Um.... Favre is a legend, and I normally love him... but Patriots FUCK THE WORLD!
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Oh man, I hope to GOD that the Patriots lose to San Diego. Though the Packers could actually win if the Favre-eating-Brady-brains happens before the game.
Also, those pictures of Favre must've been from like 12 years ago
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To be honest, I'd prefer to see San Diego - Green Bay. Although it would be cool to see New England vs. Green Bay provided that Favre proceeds to kick the shit out of Tom Brady to preserve the karmic order. Like, figuratively, not literally.
Meeeee tooooo. That would be a beautiful sight.
And fdsaklvdshakjlfsaujte I missed the entire Giants-Cowboys game. I saw the post game show come up when I was in the dining hall (yay college) and did a double take. I really thought Dallas was going to take it, but I'm pretty pleased they didn't.
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Hey Jeph, I vote that your next comic is a break from the QC world drama and is in fact about Brett Farve eating Tom Brady's brains.
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If I ever start doing IndieTits again, expect Brett to make an appearance.
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Wow I was pretty close on the NFC but blew it on the AFC. Next week's predictions
Pats 38 Chargers 17
Pack 24 Giants 16
Can't deny Brady and I still hate Rivers with a passion(Not sure why...cocky bastard). So I really hope that the pats destroy him. Farve is the man. No manning in this superbowl
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I doubt the Giants injured secondary can hold our wide receivers or Ryan Grant, especially not in Lambeau.
Because the Packers WR corps is better than Dallas? Hrm........ :roll:
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I hope Tom Brady explodes or something.
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As a Redskins fan I'm just happy Norv Turner won this week. I still don't really know why Dan Snyder fired the man, he was a better coach than Spurrier and Schottenheimer combined.
I think Turner ate both their brains or something. Then Joe Gibbs ran him over with one of his big ol' racin' cars.
...oh man you guys this needs to happen now
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Norv Turner?!? Really?!? Is he a better NFL coach than Steve Spurrier? Sure, but then again you probably are too. Norv Turner is a great O-Coordinator but he is constantly over matched as a head coach.
Though, what do I know I went 1-3 on my picks over the weekend. Still I'll give it another shot.
Patriots 31 - Chargers 24
Packers 35 - Giants 20
I still hate the Packers.
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I doubt the Giants injured secondary can hold our wide receivers or Ryan Grant, especially not in Lambeau.
Because the Packers WR corps is better than Dallas? Hrm........ :roll:
Yes, I would say that. Dallas may have TO and a good TE in Witten, but what else? The Packers have at least four decent wide receivers they can count on to catch the ball and run for more yards after the catch (Possibly five with the robinson/martin tandem).
Plus, the Pack's O-line is going to give Favre all day to pass. They have given up only 19 sacks on the season, third in the league.
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I am going to hold off on my score predictions for Championship weekend until Friday, although I still think it's going to be a Pats/Packs superbowl this year.
The Chargers are going to be all sorts of murdered by the Patriots without LT and Rivers, but I honestly think they have a chance with those two can get healthy. As I've said all year, the only way you'll beat the Patriots is to force some turnovers because they've been playing perfectly. And even then, you have to CAPITALIZE on your turnovers, and you can't make them yourself. The Chargers have been very good at that and if they somehow manage to get an interception or cause a fumble (or two!) then it's anyone's game.
Same thing with the Packers/Giants, really. The Giants have been playing great the last few weeks but they are a battered team at this point. Their defense is basically a bunch of cripples anymore. With the way the Packers played last week at home, the Giants D is going to need to get healthy quick if they want to stop the Pack from scoring another 42 points.
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Colts lost last night.
wowwie.
did you see that amazing touchdown when they were discussing if his foot went out of bounds or not?
intensssssee!
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Jeph, I love you
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LT should be able to play against New England. Hell, Antonio Gates dislocated a toe and still played the next week, LT can live with a knee hyper-extension.
I figure if LT is back, and most of their offense is healthy they've got a shot. Even if Rivers sits out, they've got a long shot with Volek under center.
Basically Antionio Cromartie needs to work some more of his magic.
Norv Turner?!? Really?!? Is he a better NFL coach than Steve Spurrier? Sure, but then again you probably are too.
I'm honestly not quite sure if that was a shot at Spurrier or condescending towards me. Both?
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It was definitely a shot at Spurrier, who is a lot of fun as a college coach, but would never be able to work in the NFL. It was only a shot at you as far as you trying to defend Norv Turner as a head coach. You don't hop from team to team with a sub .500 record if you are a solid NFL head coach. It means a team was desparate and didn't get who they really wanted and needed someone to fill the gap for a year or two.
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Actually he's coaching in San Diego right now because he tried to coach the Cowboys but they got Wade Phillips instead, and the Chargers sought him out.
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I don't get how people can still knock Norv Turner as much as they do. They started out rough this year under him but that's to be expected with any coach, and then they went on a huge winning streak and are one of the best teams in the NFL this year. Give the guy a little credit.
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As a 49er fan, I think Norv Turner is a brilliant coach. I just wish he was still our offensive coordinator, especially since now we hired Mike Martz...
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I was extrememly pleased with this week's playoff games.
It Farve and Co. keep up what they did this week, they are a shoo in for the superbowl.
And San Diego shouldn't have a chance. LT won't play if he's smart, unless he gets the green light from the docs. Dislocated toes and fingers are nothing. Tape it up, and you're ready to play. But a knee injury is bad. That is the injury that permenantly sidelines a majority of players, especially RBs.
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That's true for most knee injuries, but not for a hyperextension. Rivers' injury actually has a better chance of sidelining him
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Am I the only one who thinks Rivers vs. Eli would be a more fun QB matchup storyline than Brady vs. Favre? I mean I realize the odds of it actually happening are MINISCULE (3.86% chance of both upsets hitting, according to the current moneylines), but wouldn't it be awesome?
Oh yeah, and +1 re: FUCK YOU, COWBOYS, ENJOY YOUR OFFSEASON :mrgreen:
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Eli Manning is so incredibly boring.
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He needs to try something of his own instead of trying to do that fakeout audible thing that Peyton does.
Then again I saw quite a few QBs doing that this season.
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Peyton is still the undisputed king of the audible, though. I think we can all agree on that.
Anyway, guys. 2 days until championship games. I'm excited. I am going to be very sad when the football season ends this year, as I am most years, because the vast majority of other sports put me to sleep. (College basketball > NBA basketball, but it ends in March. Baseball is just boring always, and that seems to be year round. Soccer is kind of hard to get in to if you're an American because no one ever talks about it here so unless you go out of your way to get into it, you won't even know who any of the players are. Hockey is kind of the same way, but at least guys ram each other into walls.)
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Baseball is just awesome, but I hate puppies, sunshine and freedom.
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Here in Oklahoma we don't pay attention to Pro Football, we just pay attention to how badly we get beat in BCS games (which I try my absolute hardest to have a sense of humor about, if only to keep the tears back... :cry:). That being said, I find it very unlikely that anyone can beat the Pats when Brady (love him or hate him) is throwing 92 freaking percent. That's just unfair.
I always pray desperately that the playoffs will go through Green Bay solely because I love the snow games. The game this last week against Seattle was one of the most beautiful sporting events I've ever seen on TV. If it does it again, New York is in trouble, and if the same thing happens in Foxboro, San Diego is toast.
I wish the Chiefs didn't suck...
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The Pack-Seahaire game was great. I also remember someone telling me that Pac would loose if it was overly cold or snowy, because they have't played well in the cold all year. Oops.
I feel your pain, I've been an on-and-off Chiefs fan for about 15 years. I listened with great interest this early this year thinking that they could do good, but then, the let Trent Green go. You fire one of the best quarterbacks for three of the last four years (not including this season) for a third string and a couple of rookies. After that, I basically washed my hands of them. They could be a really good team, but...
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Hey Robbie, BCS games aside... how do you feel about onside kicks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSIykYoM260)?
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Onside kicks themselves, I have no problem with (though, we made a pretty stupid attempt at one during the Fiesta Bowl as well). I do feel the call was incorrect, but it was like, two years ago. I've moved on as much as I can. As much as I love college football, and as much as I'll miss it during the offseason, I also realize it's just a game, and mistakes are made. I make a lot of them myself.
I feel your pain, I've been an on-and-off Chiefs fan for about 15 years. I listened with great interest this early this year thinking that they could do good, but then, the let Trent Green go. You fire one of the best quarterbacks for three of the last four years (not including this season) for a third string and a couple of rookies. After that, I basically washed my hands of them. They could be a really good team, but...
It doesn't help that Larry Johnson got hurt/wasn't playing well. I thought Croyle was going to be fine, but that didn't work out either... *sigh* At least we'll get a high draft pick this year.
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I know what it's like to cheer for a crappy team. I don't know why but I've always liked the Detroit Lions since I was a kid, and you guys know as well as I do they are a pretty crappy team. Good thing for me I've also been cheering for the Steelers as long as I can remember and they usually do pretty good. Their Super Bowl run and win a few years ago was one of the best moments in sports for me in a long time.
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Soccer is kind of hard to get in to if you're an American because no one ever talks about it here so unless you go out of your way to get into it, you won't even know who any of the players are.
Dude, that's what Fox Soccer Channel is for.
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It's a good thing that most people have the Fox Soccer Channel then
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Anyway, on the topic of American football...
Since I've got my throwback Pats jersey, I've worn it during every game, and they're 3-0. Superstition ahoy!
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So in other words they're 14-0 this year when you don't wear it. Since 14>3, I'd suggest perhaps your best option would be to not wear it, unless you want to be a FUCKING JINX. I say this with all possible love of course.
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Bob's got a point, Shane. The Pats did look lackluster last week. Maybe they're just so good they've been managing to win in spite of your jersey.
I recommend not pushing it. Burn the jersey.
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And then what? Stop taking my pants off during Sox playoff games?
NEVAR.
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I do the same thing during Brewers playoff games too
Wait...
Fuck
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"Ummm.... Help?"
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God, that was such a terrible game. Packers blew it on both offense and defense. The better team clearly lost here and I'm fuckin pissed
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Man, there's an awful lot of Giants hate floating around. I hate to break it to everyone, but they've been playing absolutely fantastic football in the Playoffs. I think they've had the strongest defense through the entire playoffs, and they've had a solid enough offense to get and maintain a lead. I was rooting for the Packers, but give credit where it's due: Plexico Buress and Eli Manning. I don't know where you get off saying it was a terrible game, either, because ANY game that goes down to the wire like that = good game.
I think this'll be an exciting Super Bowl. You've got the massive underdogs that almost beat the unbeaten in the final game of the season, a near loss that gave them the confidence to go in and play perfectly solid football in the post-season to get right back towards another attempt at Dynasty™.
I love stories like this. I am so cheering for the Giants in this Super Bowl, because another team winning it entirely on the road just like the Steelers did a few years back would be freakin' awesome. (And I hate the Patriots.)
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Sorry, wrong wording there. The Packers played a terrible game.
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Granted, they didn't play their best, but they weren't horrible. I'd say they were too worried down the stretch and got so worked up they ended up throwing it away. All those big penalties at the end reminds me of the Ravens game against the Patriots earlier this year.
You just can't do that, guys. Penalties late in the game are such a killer. Can't let emotion get to you like that.
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Pats game was fairly boring.
Giants game was pretty awesome!
Their kicker is so, so lucky he made that last field goal. I'm not sure he would've made it out of the stadium alive if they had lost.
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Considering I would be rooting for the Pats anyway, seeing the Giants gives me extra reason to root for them as I will stab myself in the face if I have to deal with another fucking year of commercials from one of the Mannings.
Also, I disagree, I think it was pretty exciting, for the most part. This year's been all about Brady and it was pretty awesome to see Maroney essentially carrying the team on his back.
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The Pats game was, in fact, boring. The fans in the crowd weren't even into it, like, at all. I'm really upset at the Chargers for not taking advantage of the only way you can even beat the Patriots: turnovers. They should have won that game but completely flubbing it in the red zone is not very cool. Still, I don't mind seeing Philip Rivers have someone stick it to him, even if it is the Patriots. Dude just needs to calm the hell down and shut the hell up. Yelling at fans of the opposing team just makes you a douchebag because you never know if your whole career is going to be played with whatever team you're currently on, as well as the fact it's just bad sports.
OH GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SUPERBOWL HLLUHAGGLAUHGLUAGLUHLGHAUGHGLUAHG
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Their kicker is so, so lucky he made that last field goal. I'm not sure he would've made it out of the stadium alive if they had lost.
Seriously. Those first two misses were painful, but they managed not to fuck up at the end! Go New York!
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Considering I would be rooting for the Pats anyway, seeing the Giants gives me extra reason to root for them as I will stab myself in the face if I have to deal with another fucking year of commercials from one of the Mannings.
Speaking from someone living outside of New England, I can tell you that the Tom Brady hero worship isn't any less fucking irritating.
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i- i think those peyton manning commercials are funny
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I agree. The peptalk things are funny even to people who don't like football. The oreo competition thing was pretty weird, though.
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The most recent manning commercial is probably my favorite. "Yeah, I know. I'm as bummed as you are"
Fantastic
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I love the Peyton commercials. Specially the Peptalk ones.
As far as the game goes. I think a lot of the problems that the Pack encountered was the weather...I know they are generally used to that, but the weather tonight was pretty brutal. I would have hated to be there. At one point it said that it was warmer in Greenland than it was in Green Bay, haha.
And I was pissed that the Pats won the other game. I was rooting for San Deigo...sucks that they had to play with LT out and both Rivers and Gates injured. They did keep the score pretty close though, up until the end. They didn't let the Pats walk all over them.
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I am so happy rivers lost...have I stressed how much I hate that guy.
Damn it Farve you let me down. Well the giants gave the pats a run for their money at the end of the season so I think we will have a great superbowl.
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As far as the game goes. I think a lot of the problems that the Pack encountered was the weather...I know they are generally used to that, but the weather tonight was pretty brutal. I would have hated to be there. At one point it said that it was warmer in Greenland than it was in Green Bay, haha.
If the temperature is a problem, you just don't have enough hustle, I say. No problem in a sport can't be solved by more hustle.
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No amount of hustle can make up for a lack of pep. Pep wins games.
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This is true. Still though I think playing in those extreme temps would have been fucking hard...
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I do the same thing during Brewers playoff games too
Wait...
Fuck
Fuck that. No Pants Mojo is ours.
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I do the same thing during Brewers playoff games too
Wait...
Fuck
Fuck that. No Pants Mojo is ours.
Aw...come on...let me have my fun
The Brewers have been in the playoffs once in the franchise.
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God Damn Packers.
Although, I disagree, if the Giants' kicker missed that 3rd field goal, he would have been carried out of the stadium as a hero for the Pac Fans.
Quick: What do Tom Brady and a cricus have in common?
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they both have elephants inside them
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Too lazy to quote things tonight, but in order they appear from top of page:
-LT and Rivers' injuries being underreported; bad decision. When you've got one player who had to have surgery on his knee just to be able to play and will require more after the season, and another who may require surgery as well because he re-injured his knee, you really shouldn't be playing either of them. Though I can look past this in Rivers' case, since he managed to play the whole game out.
-seriously, those peyton manning commercials are pretty funny. Peyton Manning is my boy. I think I've had him as a fantasy quarterback like three years in a row now
-tom brady and circuses both frighten small children
Also I'm still just happy that the redskins held Dallas to a single rushing yard in a game (-8 of which came from marion barber) to beat them by 21 to secure a playoff spot. That was a magical night.
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Personally I thought the Patriots/Chargers game was better than anyone could have hoped for, so I don't get the complaints that it was boring...
I mean the Chargers played their hearts out, Rivers was pretty solid, and when you consider the injury he was playing through it turns it into a basically awesome performance. San Diego pretty thoroughly outplayed the, arguably, best NFL team ever, and had they not been utterly atrocious in the red zone probably would have won. How did you not enjoy watching that game?
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I suppose when it comes down to it, because the crowd was pretty much unresponsive. It's easier to get into a game when you're watching it on TV when crowds are cheering and jeering. A huge play would happen and there'd be silence, regardless of which team made it.
Basically: THE PATRIOTS' FANS ARE BORED OF THEIR TEAM WINNING ALL THE TIME.
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I can't argue that. I mean, I absolutely love the idea of being undefeated, but I hope next year it's back to a normal season. If next season is a repeat of this one, I probably wouldn't watch it.
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-tom brady and circuses both frighten small children
That's pretty good.
Tom Brady and a Circus both have two more rings than Peyten Manning.
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Awwwwwww, snap.
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The most important lesson that should be learned from the past games is big men who practice blocking tend to block much better than receivers out of spread formations, which means you can run the ball and control the clock. Lawrence Maroney had 16 yards in the first half and the Patriots spent most of the time in the spread. Then the Patriots realized at half time that Brady was off, he was missing a lot of throws even if Kevin Faulk somehow managed to catch them (that guy is an absolute rock for that team).
So the Pats ran the ball, and they even did it out of running formations, with three TEs and sometimes even a fullback. In their last three drives they stuffed the ball down San Diego's throat. The Pats started their final drive with 9:13 seconds left at the 13 yard line, with a 9 point lead. This is far from a done deal, but they held on to the ball for 9 minutes running 15 plays to end the game! That is just great football. Boring, but great.
Offensive line men tend to out weigh D-line men by between 20-30 pounds each and most TEs and FBs are bigger than LBs. The defense will tire over the course of a game if you run the ball often enough, in crappy or cold weather its even more important. But most teams give up on the run after 5 minutes into the second quarter if it's not working yet. Look at Green Bay - New York, the Giants at least tried to keep some balance and they moved the ball. The Packers should have lost three different times in regulation, a fumbled interception set up the Packer FG to tie and the two missed FGs.
Not that any of this matters until next November or December, the Super Bowl is in Arizona, in a domed stadium so Brady will be able to go deep to Moss as much as he wants.
I realize its petty and mean, but the ending of the Giant game couldn't have ben sweeter for me. Favre almost immediately throws an interception to set up the winning field goal. Especially, after Aarom Kampman was whooping it up after winning the coin toss. As a Viking fan (none of you have rooting horror stories like I have rooting horror stories, except Cleveland) Favre is my own personal anti-christ.
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None of us?
Are you forgetting that before this decade, outside of the Celtics, New England was essentially one of the saddest sporting regions in North America? Particularly through the nineties. The Sox hadn't won it all in decades, the Pats were a joke, the Celtics were starting to descend into the joke they were for a while and the Bruins haven't been relevant in forever. We know heartache.
Shit, I still get a little pissed off about Aaron fucking Boone and Grady Little's inability to handle a pitcher. Lord knows how people like my grandmother, who had to live through Bucky fucking Dent, feel.
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Ah, Aaron fucking Boone.
What a fantastic night.
I can still remember like it was yesterday. It's like midnight, it's the bottom of the elventh, Aaron Boone hits one to the upper deck, the Yankees go to the Series, and I'm running up and down my street without a shirt on screaming in like 20 degree weather.
Damn that was a good night.
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And a few short weeks later, they were on their way to blowing the World Series against a team with under a quarter of their payroll.
Ah, good times (I can be bitter if I want).
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It makes me so happy when the Yankees lost in the first round last year
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Myself as well, but I can relate to SilentJ. I remember 2004 quite vividly. I damn near keeled over during each of the last four games of the ALCS. Not to mention, rooting for the Pats this season, I can sympathize with some of the crap Yankees fans catch.
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Let me guess, stuff along the lines of "THEY ONLY WIN BECAUSE THEY BUY ALL THE BEST TALENT" and "YOU ONLY LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST"?
'Cos I've been catching that shit since I was like 6.
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I have to say that I really hate the Yankees. I think one of the reasons I don't like baseball as a whole is because of the Yankees, to be honest. It's downright boring that 99% of the time, the team to beat in any given year? The Yankees. It's been that way since before I was born and it'll probably be that way when I finally die. Dynasties in sports are kind of a bummer because it takes a lot of the fun out of it. That's one thing I like about college basketball. Yeah, some teams are pretty much always good but you never really know which is the best until the very, very, very end of the year.
At least with football, you just gotta be patient. The Patriots' success won't last forever, and neither will any other team's. I mean, during the 80s and into the 90s, it was like the team to beat was the 49s, but proof you don't stay good forever would be them this season. A new coach will come in or a star player will get hurt or traded or pretend to retire just to sign on with a better team (*coughjrseaucough*).
Off topic: While trying to find the season records of the Patriots on Wikipedia, I noticed Pete Carroll was the last head coach of Dynasty™. I just find that interesting.
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Let me guess, stuff along the lines of "THEY ONLY WIN BECAUSE THEY BUY ALL THE BEST TALENT"?
And are you going to deny that? Because they do spend 80 million dollars more than the Red Sox, who have the second highest payroll in Major League Baseball.
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I am not going to deny that, but nor will I hold it against them, because Steinbrenner has the money to sign these players, so he's going to do it. The upper brass of the Yankees organization has the funding to maintain what the team has become, and they're going to do it. They're not just gonna sit back on their laurels in the interest of "making things fair" or whatever bullshit you can feed me.
So, no I'm not going to deny it. But it pisses me off, because if another team did the same thing, the fans of that team would catch the same shit. This point is only brought to light because the Yankees are good. It's the same reason people hate them so much, merely because they're good, so people find whatever reason they can to hold something against them.
I guess the reason I'm so bitter is because literally every baseball fan I know that isn't a Yankees fan maintains that you either love or hate the Yanks, there is no middle ground. And this pisses me off. Especially when people tell me their favorite team and I have to kindly remind them that the Yankees do not give a rat's ass about the Twins/Giants/Reds/Nationals/etc.
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I have to say that I really hate the Yankees. I think one of the reasons I don't like baseball as a whole is because of the Yankees, to be honest. It's downright boring that 99% of the time, the team to beat in any given year? The Yankees. It's been that way since before I was born and it'll probably be that way when I finally die. Dynasties in sports are kind of a bummer because it takes a lot of the fun out of it. That's one thing I like about college basketball. Yeah, some teams are pretty much always good but you never really know which is the best until the very, very, very end of the year.
Actually, when you were born, the Yankees were pretty effectively garbage. Outside of '81, they didn't even sniff the playoffs. They made it to and lost the World Series in '81 and didn't make it back until '96. Of the last 25 World Series, the Yankees have actually only won two more World Series than the next leader (Which includes the Marlins, a team that's not even two decades old, the Royals who are considered perennial cellar dwellers). The Rays are actually the only team in the Al East to not have at least one World Series victory in the last two and a half decades.
At least with football, you just gotta be patient. The Patriots' success won't last forever, and neither will any other team's. I mean, during the 80s and into the 90s, it was like the team to beat was the 49s, but proof you don't stay good forever would be them this season. A new coach will come in or a star player will get hurt or traded or pretend to retire just to sign on with a better team (*coughjrseaucough*).
That's the same with ANY sport. You clearly haven't bothered to do accurate research before spouting this off. No dynasty lasts forever. Sure, certain teams will repeat success every once in a while, but every team has its highs and lows. The Red Sox are current reigning champs of the MLB and are considered favorites to repeat at the moment. In ten years' time, though? They could be in fourth place in their division. Ownership could change, a salary cap could be introduced, they could start making some piss poor decisions. Anything can happen.
Let me guess, stuff along the lines of "THEY ONLY WIN BECAUSE THEY BUY ALL THE BEST TALENT" and "YOU ONLY LIKE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST"?
Actually, no. The former, most definitely not, considering the NFL has a salary cap. It's one of my few problems with the MLB really, is that it's the only pro sport in the US without one, which is how you get people complaining about a lack of parity (Which is true to an extent, but not as bad as people make it out to be, there're 17 different WS champs in the last 25 years).
So, no I'm not going to deny it. But it pisses me off, because if another team did the same thing, the fans of that team would catch the same shit. This point is only brought to light because the Yankees are good. It's the same reason people hate them so much, merely because they're good, so people find whatever reason they can to hold something against them.
That used to be true, but at this point it's mostly because of the attitude the Yankees, and many of their fans for a while, carried. The most telling factor of that is that the Yankees really aren't that great anymore. The last few years, Steinbrenner's been trying to buy his way back to a championship, ignoring the fact that it's very tough to do so. Sure, they're a damn good team, but they've got zero chemistry and have become notorious for choking when it really matters. Welcome to the A-Rod era. Most of the work in those dynasty years was done by guys brought up through their farm system that were brought in while his dumb ass was banned from the MLB. Hank looks like he's off to a really bad start too. Next time I hear that douche talk about what it "means to be a Yankee" or any of the other crap he spouts implying that just being the Yankees makes them better, I'm gonna drive to NY and deck the putz.
I guess the reason I'm so bitter is because literally every baseball fan I know that isn't a Yankees fan maintains that you either love or hate the Yanks, there is no middle ground. And this pisses me off. Especially when people tell me their favorite team and I have to kindly remind them that the Yankees do not give a rat's ass about the Twins/Giants/Reds/Nationals/etc.
And that's the problem with the Yankees and some of their fans these days. They don't take anyone else seriously. If you're not big market, you're off their radar. This is how they got smoked out of the Series by two expansion teams this decade. They go in with their Yankee swagger, assuming people will just collapse and cry because they have to face the mighty Yankees while the other team is actually playing them twice as hard just to shut them up. I remember points in the beginning of the season where half the damn roster was on the DL and fans were still saying they were the best team in the MLB. It's not the fact they're good people hate them over. If that were the case, people would shit on the Angels constantly. People hate them because they're so damn complacent. It doesn't hurt that they're playing in what is currently a very weak division (Outside of themselves and the Sox, the Al East is pretty effectively garbage right now and it doesn't appear likely to change soon).
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SPOOOOORTS
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You'll be as fast as KENYANS
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Gaaaaaah, is that Monty?
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Obsessions is living up to his forum handle right now.
What part of "I don't like Baseball" do you not understand? Take what I have to say about baseball as what any casually disinterested person in something would. Sorry if, due to marketing, television, and general baseball culture if I was to assume the Yankees are the team to beat, all the time, regardless of if they are actually good or not.
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People can say everything they want about hating dynasties in sports but that's all garbage. Having someone to hate is what adds that extra visceral layer to the lasagna that is fandom. That way even if your team is down and out you can still root for someone even if it is only to beat up on another team. Without my hatred for the Packers this post season would have been stale and boring. You need Duke, the Yankees, Red Sox (people are finally starting to hate them too and its about time), Lakers, Cowboys and even the Patriots. Without a villian there is no entertainment.
So rejoice you can either root for or against perfection but just remember this Super Bowl would suck without the Patriots.
I am attempting to steer this back to football. I would like a baseball thread but I think that would work better, you know, not in the run up to the Super Bowl.
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Obsessions is living up to his forum handle right now.
What part of "I don't like Baseball" do you not understand? Take what I have to say about baseball as what any casually disinterested person in something would. Sorry if, due to marketing, television, and general baseball culture if I was to assume the Yankees are the team to beat, all the time, regardless of if they are actually good or not.
I assume you've heard the old saying: "Better to keep your mouth shut and look the fool than open your mouth and confirm it."
So yeah, how about them Super Bowls folks? Seems that mini-drama concerning Brady wearing a boot seems to have blown over right quick.
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As a Viking fan (none of you have rooting horror stories like I have rooting horror stories, except Cleveland) Favre is my own personal anti-christ.
You think you have horror stories as a fan? I'm a "longtime Cubs fan", as in the Chi Cubs. The Cubs are the wrost best team. They get so many good players and still can't win.
And in football, I've been a Pats fan since the late 90's. I've been a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. You want a horror story, The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 14 years. About 11 years ago, they were the best team in thier division, had first round bye. The next week, they played against their rivals, the hated Denver Broncos, and it was an excellent game. Came down to the last seconds of the game. KC was in Field Goal range, with mere seconds left on the clock. The kicker hits it perfectly, but, alas there is a penalty. Facemask, on KC, but, if you take a look at the replay, you see that the guy who got called for the facemask never touched the other man's facemask, the opposite was true. Broncos win, and Mr. Ed and co. go on to win thier first ring.
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Yes. Football.
SO LIKE
i thought the fact people were even talking about Tom Brady wearing a boot was pretty ridiculous. One of the Mikes from Mike and Mike's Radio Show was on NFL Today the other day saying "The ONLY reason we're talking about this AT ALL is because we can and have nothing else really serious to talk about for about a week."
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Pretty much. It's sad that in this day and age, for people to not lose interest, sports stations essentially manufacture stories for the sake of seeming relevant.
In other news, Johan Santana still hasn't been traded. Trade talks haven't moved and he hasn't released any statements, but I thought I'd update everyone that absolutely nothing newsworthy has happened. Followup articles as news continues to not develop.
I'm pretty sure sports media should be killed off.
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But then there wouldn't be old guys yelling at each other on PTI!
I watch it for argument value, not sports.
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I hope Brady is still in a cast for the game, and a fire erupts on the field causing all the players to pansily run over the fans to safety, because the Giants don't deserve to go to the Superbowl, and I HATE the Pats.
VIVA LA BROWNS!
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Considering he was seen out of the cast already as early as late Monday, you're in for some disappointment.
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God, still with the Giants bashing.
The Steelers didn't "deserve" to go to the Super Bowl a couple years ago and ended up winning it, so calm down already. They earned a spot in the playoffs and beat every team they encountered. If they don't deserve to go to the Super Bowl, then what the fuck do you have to do to earn the rights?
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I'm no fan of the Giants but they are far and away playing the best football of any team right now. I don't think they are better than any team who made the playoffs in the AFC, the Cowboys, Seahawks or the Packers, but they deserve to be where they are because they have actually been making plays in the playoffs. Eli Manning is the best quarterback in the playoffs right now, Brady was shaky against San Diego, Billy Vollek not Phillip Rivers beat Indianopolis, in which game Peyton was stopped, Brett Favre threw two big interceptions against the Giants. Eli Manning wins against all of those guys if only by process of elimination, he hasn't turned the ball over and his team is still playing.
I still think the Patriots will walk all over the Giants particularly because the weather will not be a factor, but that doesn't change that up to this point the Giants have played the best in the playoffs.
Teams getting hot at the end of the season is the best argument against the winner of a tournament being the "Best Team" in a league.
*The walking cast is just a Belichick mind game*
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Everyone will watch it if it happens again next year, just hoping that someone beats the Pats. But, it won't happen again next year.
...will it?
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God, still with the Giants bashing.
The Steelers didn't "deserve" to go to the Super Bowl a couple years ago and ended up winning it, so calm down already. They earned a spot in the playoffs and beat every team they encountered. If they don't deserve to go to the Super Bowl, then what the fuck do you have to do to earn the rights?
Consistent playing. I hate to add to Giant bashing, and I'm not a fan of either team. Brady always pulls out in he last quarter, so it'll probably be a good game until the end of the 3rd. I say Eli doesn't deserve to go because the Giants have just barely pulled together in their games to win. They are SLOPPY and awkward.
However, I concede. The only thing needed to "deserve" to go to the Superbowl is to beat everyone else. So, you're right! I'm wrong! I still hate the Giants!
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I don't see how a close game is an indication of sloppy. I concede that they started the season pretty rough, but I think they're playing better than any other team right now. I also think the playoff games they won weren't as close as score would indicate. Green Bay had two giant plays that basically gave them 14 of their 20 points. Yes, you can't afford to give up big plays and that does show weakness in a team, but OTHER THAN THOSE TWO PLAYS, the Giants played excellent football against the Packers. The Cowboys game was pretty much the same.
I think the Giants have a better chance of beating the Patriots than any other team, anyway. I thought that before they even earned the Super Bowl trip. They were the only ones that gave them a run for their money the ENTIRE SEASON that didn't throw the game away. Every other team that was doing well against them always ended making huge errors (seriously, Baltimore, how many f***ing penalties do you need to commit while the Patriots were on O? retards) that cost them, rather than it simply being the Patriots making big plays.
I think it'll be a great game, basically. I really dislike the Patriots, and never felt one way or the other about the Giants but the genuine effort they've put together this post-season makes me like them.
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Bump because the Super Bowl is on in a couple of hours.
I'm excited, guys. Can you tell? I'm very excited.
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None of us?
Are you forgetting that before this decade, outside of the Celtics, New England was essentially one of the saddest sporting regions in North America? Particularly through the nineties. The Sox hadn't won it all in decades, the Pats were a joke, the Celtics were starting to descend into the joke they were for a while and the Bruins haven't been relevant in forever. We know heartache.
Shit, I still get a little pissed off about Aaron fucking Boone and Grady Little's inability to handle a pitcher. Lord knows how people like my grandmother, who had to live through Bucky fucking Dent, feel.
Uh, you do realize that back when hockey still mattered the Minnesota North Stars went to the Stanley Cup finals only to get blown out 8-0 in game 7, the biggest blowout in modern NHL Finals history and was promptly sold after the next season, right? The Timberwolves? Three words: Kevin Fucking McHale. As for the Twins, how about Puckett suddenly going blind in one eye? Or the contraction happy owner, Carl Pohald (Richest owner in baseball; three times richer than Steinbrenner) who cleared the team of everyone making a million dollars by the '98 season ('cept for Radke)? Which brings us to 1998 and the star of the show: the god damn Vikings. Try being the fan of a 15-1 team who misses the Super Bowl when their kicker who had a perfect season up 'till that point suddenly can't make a field goal. Then there's the Herschel Walker trade, Korey Stringer's death, the Randy Ratio, the 2003 collapse in which the Vikings missed the playoffs due to a last second TD by the Cardinals, lost the 2001 NFC Championship game to the Giants 41-0, and of course, the colorful string of failures in the Superbowl during the 1960s.
Oh, I nearly forgot: Pohlad just let Santana go too, despite the fact that the state finally just caved into his stadium demands. And you know what the saddest thing is? I still would rather be a Minnesota fan than a Cleveland, Philadelphia, Atlanta or Buffalo fan. Even tossing out the recent success of the Sox and Patriots, Boston fans have had it pretty good; there's a lot of teams out there that have had devestating losses and no truly dominant teams in their history to show for it.
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Man, before the Pats won their first Super Bowl, this city hadn't won a pro sports championship since the '86 Celtics. In football, we'd NEVER seen a championship and in baseball it'd been 86 years. The Bruins haven't won the finals since 1972. Boston was, for a long time, the big well-known long suffering sports city. We've passed that torch on to Cleveland and Minnesota's got nothing to bitch about compared to them.
But, by all means, let's continue this "wah, wah, I can cry more than you can" contest.
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I'm from Philly.
So basically, fuck everyone. This city has been so barren of sports success, there's a movie and a Wikipedia page about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Billy_Penn
Oh, and fuck the Giants, and fuck the Pats. I'll let them show me massive men violently wrestling and tackling each other over a piece of leather, but I'm going to be cheering at interceptions no matter who makes them.
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I dislike both teams so I don't care a great deal about the game. I'm considering watching for the ads, but I have a paper to write so I'll probably just go look up the good ones online after the fact.
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That's because you're also the big well-known media center alongside New York, the big well-known media center who happens to be your rival. It's like if Paris Hilton stubbed her toe during a slapfight with Britney Spears in LA and suddenly it's seen as a tragedy. Seriously, whoever gets the most attention is whoever whines about it the loudest. Cleveland definitely has it worse off than Minny, but how about Buffalo and the consecutive Superbowl losses? And Cleveland's always had it worse than you guys; at least you guys never lost any of your teams.
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My family's watching the game as a bonding experience. We really don't know that much about football and we don't care who wins but we like the commercials, know the rules enough to follow the game, and are having an awesome time making home-made buffalo wings! Yes, I am bringing cooking into this thread.
We've got three flavors mixed up:
You're basic Frank's Hot sauce and butter
Honey barbecue and Jack Daniels
Brown Sugar and Chipotle barbecue
man, I haven't eaten today, and these are looking pretty fuckin' good. We've got like somewhere around 120, bought 4 packs of fifteen full wings and I butchered em up, using the tips to make broth for something, since I didn't want to waste em.
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And Cleveland's always had it worse than you guys; at least you guys never lost any of your teams.
Actually, we have. The Braves were in Boston for a good long time before moving to Milwaukee and then on to Atlanta.
Also, the Pats actually almost left too. Back in the nineties, before Kraft bought them, the team was on the verge of packing up and heading to St. Louis.
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Ah, you're right; I forgot about that since it was in like, what, the late 1940s? I'm too lazy to google it.
Also, for once the Pats offensive line isn't dominating the trenches. Hopefully they turn that around.
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Damn.
This is dramatic.
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I'm pissed.
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Oh man, the last 2 and a half minutes, absolutely brilliant man. I still can't believe Eli managed to break free there and make that catch, that was by far the play of the game. And it looked awesome on our 40 inch HDTV too. I'm no huge fan, but me my dad and my brothers must have been screaming for a minute.
I'm happy.
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Yeah, that 30 yard Manning-Tyree pass was a real backbreaker.
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I can't believe what I just witnessed. Truly, this is the greatest sporting moment I have ever witnessed in my entire life. My poetic side is waxing with more metaphors than is appropriate, so suffice it to say, the New York Football Giants defeated the New England Patriots, 17 to 14, in Super Bowl 42.
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Oh man, and Plaxico Burress looked so happy too, he was crying right there larger than life on our television. You could tell when he made the winning touchdown catch that it took a good two or three seconds for him to realize it.
What I'm saying of course is, How can you be pissed if a man named Plaxico is crying with joy?
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I wonder if Bellicheck broke a hip falling off his high horse.
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I rather doubt it; I think he's too obsessive to not just already be planning for next year. I was sorta hoping the Patriots would win but that 30 yarder in their final drive by the Giants won me over.
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fuck you, Tom Brady! That game was awesome. Being in WI, everyone I watched it with was upset that GB wasn't playing and most of us wanted to see the Pats fail. I feel good now, because at least we can say that Favre lost to the Super Bowl champs.
Also, in true Wisconsinite form, the super bowl party I went to was a Deep-frying party as well, we had 3 fryers going deep-frying everything you can think of. Potato chips, pickles, onion rings, jalapeño poppers, cheese curds, corn dogs, bananas, and more. I was fairly certain the combination of the massive intake of fatty foods and the stress of the last 2 minutes of that game was going to result in everyone present having a heart attack.
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Considering that a lot of key players for the Patriots are probably retiring after this season, I wouldn't go in expecting another Super Bowl bid from them.
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Yeah, that last drive by the Giants definitely convinced me, they deserved to win that game. I have to say that that was probably the most dramatic and entertaining football game I've ever seen.
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I am not a big football guy, but I like New York. So, I decided to root for their team . Tonight, I got what it was all about. Man, that was a fucking incredible game. I am glad I saw this one.
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Fuck.
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Woohoo!
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That fuckin' game took years off my life.
That sack evasion + 32 yard pass was poetry in motion. Giants earned this one.
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Yeah, that last drive by the Giants definitely convinced me, they deserved to win that game. I have to say that that was probably the most dramatic and entertaining football game I've ever seen.
I agree with this 100 fold.
My dad was the only one in the house rooting for the Patriots, which I secretly think he was doing to be an obnoxious asshole like he always does whenever the whole family gets together. He kept saying it was because of the "historical significance" the Patriots having a perfect season would mean. I told him, "What's more historical? Perfect season 2 or the underdogs ironically named the Giants defeating probably the best football team to ever take the field in the most important game of the year?" I think I won out.
I believe that was the single best football game I've ever watched in my life.
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I think this game hurt more than Tom Brady's pride. That defense was brutal. I mean, Manning was really awesome in the 4th quarter (that pass was probably the best moment of the game) but I think that the Giant's defence deserves a -hell- of a lot of the accolades for taking down the Patriots.
I was rooting for the Giants, and that last bit of the game they earned their rings, trophy et al., but I felt bad for ragging on the Patriots so much the first half when I saw the look on every Pat fan in the room's face after that last touchdown. It was almost heartbreaking. I have to say that around 3:00 minutes from the end I would have been happy to see either team win.
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Hoped for the Giants to win, and they did, mostly since I did not want the Patroits to have a perfect season
after the game everyone screamed, "WHERE IS YOUR PERFECT SEASON NOW BRADY?!?!" at the screen.
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I screamed it right at the touchdown, I didn't wait for the damn game to end, the doom was right there on screen.
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Great game, proof that you don't need a million points for a contest to be absolutely gripping, and a real relief after last year's snore-a-thon. The Giants definitely deserved to win, and in fact if they hadn't I don't think their offensive team (heh, "offensive") would've been able to look their defensive team in the eyes. As it was, the attack ran hot-and-cold for most of the game but obviously peaked when it counted. And that get-out-of-jail move by Manning and the catch by whatsisname in the drive leading up to the last touchdown was the best single moment I've seen in American sport.
However, it also illustrated something that's always struck me about American Football: there seems to be very little value placed in the game on actual genuine tackling skills. I guess it's understandable, as unlike in Rugby Union or League all you have to do is knock the player over and nine times out of ten that player isn't trying to beat you with fancy footwork, but all the same: Manning had, what, three or four players on him before he managed to pull himself free? And every single one of them was grabbing at his torso or his shoulders. All the Patriots needed was for just one of those defenders to go for Manning's legs instead and there's no way he would've got out of there. Drive over, Patriots win.
Still, I don't want to take anything away from Manning's skill and tenacity, or indeed the performance of the Giants as a whole. The best team on the night won.
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I have to say that that was probably the most dramatic and entertaining football game I've ever seen.
I believe that was the single best football game I've ever watched in my life.
I have to disagree. It was a good game, sure, but I swear to god I don't think it was the best football game between the Giants and Patriots this season. Week 17 was a better game than tonight. As for better Super Bowls in recent memory, I'd take Rams/Titans a few years ago, with the stop on the one yard line on the last play of the game as being better. Other football games that were far better, off the top of my head, include Boise State vs. Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl and USC vs. Texas in the Rose Bowl.
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I partially agree. The game was only really good in the 4th quarter, where the Pats/Titans game was entertaining the whole time.
I disagree with it being better than their first meeting, this definitely held more tension as it was the culmination of the Patriots hard work.
I really don't think the Pat's are all that good. They've won 3 bowls, but all three games were very close. Closer than they should have been for the "top team". I think Brady is a good, not great QB and the wins aremore due to Bellicheck's phenominal coaching than anything else. Even if he does get accused of cheating.
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I have to disagree. It was a good game, sure, but I swear to god I don't think it was the best football game between the Giants and Patriots this season. Week 17 was a better game than tonight. As for better Super Bowls in recent memory, I'd take Pats/Titans a few years ago, with the stop on the one yard line on the last play of the game as being better. Other football games that were far better, off the top of my head, include Boise State vs. Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl and USC vs. Texas in the Rose Bowl.
The Super Bowl I believe you're thinking of was actually Rams/Titans, and I think it was... 2003? Not positive on that one though.
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Storm Rider's got that one.
Excellent game to watch; I love watching good defense and the Giants beat the crap out of the Patriots. Definitely as entertaining as could have been expected.
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However, it also illustrated something that's always struck me about American Football: there seems to be very little value placed in the game on actual genuine tackling skills. I guess it's understandable, as unlike in Rugby Union or League all you have to do is knock the player over and nine times out of ten that player isn't trying to beat you with fancy footwork, but all the same: Manning had, what, three or four players on him before he managed to pull himself free? And every single one of them was grabbing at his torso or his shoulders. All the Patriots needed was for just one of those defenders to go for Manning's legs instead and there's no way he would've got out of there. Drive over, Patriots win.
It's part sloppy tackling and part knee jerk reaction by defensive players to try stripping the ball when going after ballcarriers (especially QBs) in situations where they believe they have the play contained and because the NFL has rather strict roughing the passer rules. Plus, unlike in rugby the only shot you have at forcing an immediate change of possession is when they're still on their feet, although freelancing like that is exactly the kind of thing that drives coaches absolutely bananas and was rather surprising to see happen with a team like the Patriots. Hell, in Tampa Bay and Indianapolis I've often read that Dungy spends as much time on practicing "spilling" (taking angles in such a way that even if you miss the tackle the ball carrier will be funneled towards the middle of the field and thus towards other defenders) as much as they spend practicing actual tackling, so I'm sure that the obsessive Belichick was a thousand different flavors of pissed off after that lack of discipline. Whatever the reason, they definitely paid for their inability to finish that play.
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I started to smell upset as soon as I saw Bellichek wearing the red sweatshirt.
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I have to disagree. It was a good game, sure, but I swear to god I don't think it was the best football game between the Giants and Patriots this season. Week 17 was a better game than tonight. As for better Super Bowls in recent memory, I'd take Pats/Titans a few years ago, with the stop on the one yard line on the last play of the game as being better. Other football games that were far better, off the top of my head, include Boise State vs. Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl and USC vs. Texas in the Rose Bowl.
it's more than just the physical numbers of what happened in this game that made it exciting for me, I suppose. The fact this is the Super Bowl makes it more exciting than the last meeting between these two teams because this time, it was more than simple pride at stake.
You had THE UNDEFEATED Vs. The Ultimate Underdog. You had Perfection against Redemption. You had NFL Coach of the Year against a guy that was almost fired between this season and last. You had one of the most reliable quarterbacks of all time against a guy just about EVERYONE wrote off as inconsistent.
Back to back super bowl MVP brothers. /salute to Archie Manning.
It's the ultimate underdog story. It's like the Steelers' run to the big game a couple years ago, but this time against even bigger, even nastier teams. The only "easy" game for the Giants in this whole playoff run was against the Buccaneers. They had to play the best team in their conference with the Cowboys and had to play against a resurging elder statesman of a quarterback in his home city, where he's got probably the best home record of all time for any single player, and then "the best team that has ever played" with the 2007 Patriots.
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I forgot where it was, but when they were talking about Eliah Manning they said, "Not much of a looker, just close your eyes and pretend he is Tom Brady"
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Tom Coughlin definitely keeps his job, that's for sure. I'm still not a particular fan of his methods, to be honest.
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I don't get the Coughlin hate, to be honest. I think he's got a bad rep going for him, for being a hard-ass. He's done a pretty good job in the NFL, I'd say, even if they hadn't won today. How many other coaches out there can boast taking an expansion team into the Playoffs in their 2nd and 3rd year as a team?
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Narr, I get what you're saying and of course it's huge that this was the Super Bowl as opposed to a regular season game. That week 17 matchup, though, was the most entertaining regular season NFL game I think I've ever seen. 16-0 was on the line, and both teams played their hearts out; the Giants did everything they could to try to keep the Pats from perfection (obviously they made good on try two today), and just barely fell short. At the time, I was complimenting the game for having a "Super Bowl level of intensity". Not only that, but it was a fantastic football game, played very very well by all four units, offense and defense of both teams; it was high scoring but not because the defense was bad. By contrast, the Super Bowl today was in my opinion rather sloppy. It was low scoring, but not because of remarkable defense. I give kudos to the Giants D-Line for great pressure all day, but New England also really didn't look sharp, and when the Giants had the ball (except for the first, and last two, drives) it was pretty painful football to watch, basically what happens when bad offense and bad defense are combined. The finish was exciting, and the play was pretty solid in the fourth quarter, but most of the game was just mediocre football. It happened to be close because the mediocrity was evenly distributed between both teams, but it wasn't particularly good or entertaining. At least, not in my opinion.
And Storm Rider, obviously yes I meant Rams/Titans. Patriots/Titans would have been an... unlikely... Super Bowl matchup, lol. I guess, despite my arguments that it wasn't a great game, this Super Bowl *is* still affecting me somewhat. Otherwise I don't know where that slip could've come from.
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Now that my heart has slowed down quite a bit:
You know the scenario where it's a crowded room and everyone around you is a fan of the other team, and you're the only one wearing your teams hat?
That was me for the Giants. No jokes. And this was in the student union, which was fairly crowded.
To me the Giants victory wasn't as important as the Patriots being stopped in their tracks, and quieting down my hooligan new england (no offense) fans who've been jerking it over Tom Brady for the past months. The fact that the Giants managed to do it makes it so much better.
Also, I'm not that big a fan of sports fans, but last night made me get what it was all about.
Any Given Sunday
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The best part of last night was after the Pats lost, immediately congratulating the two Giants fans in the bar, and spraying them with tiny bottles of champagne.
Here's my question..why would the Pats punt on 4th and 2, but then go for it on 4th and 13? Doesn't make sense!
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new england (no offense)
Bet Tom is glad he made fun of Plax for predicting the Pats would ONLY score 17 points
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I started to smell upset as soon as I saw Bellichek wearing the red sweatshirt.
Me too! I was shocked he changed the shirt.
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That game was the most boring game of my life until 3 minutes from the end, I swear. We seriously stopped watching and started playing in the street until it was almost over. I just wish the game as a whole had been more exciting, then I wouldn't have felt cheated.
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Man.
I don't watch football. I generally don't care.
But I enjoyed the fuck out of that game. That was an epic match. I always feel bad rooting for a team (because they nearly always lose) but the Giants pulled it out. Their defense couldn't keep their hands off Tom Brady. It was nuts and I enjoyed it every time he went down.
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Narr, I get what you're saying and of course it's huge that this was the Super Bowl as opposed to a regular season game. That week 17 matchup, though, was the most entertaining regular season NFL game I think I've ever seen. 16-0 was on the line, and both teams played their hearts out; the Giants did everything they could to try to keep the Pats from perfection (obviously they made good on try two today), and just barely fell short. At the time, I was complimenting the game for having a "Super Bowl level of intensity". Not only that, but it was a fantastic football game, played very very well by all four units, offense and defense of both teams; it was high scoring but not because the defense was bad. By contrast, the Super Bowl today was in my opinion rather sloppy. It was low scoring, but not because of remarkable defense. I give kudos to the Giants D-Line for great pressure all day, but New England also really didn't look sharp, and when the Giants had the ball (except for the first, and last two, drives) it was pretty painful football to watch, basically what happens when bad offense and bad defense are combined. The finish was exciting, and the play was pretty solid in the fourth quarter, but most of the game was just mediocre football. It happened to be close because the mediocrity was evenly distributed between both teams, but it wasn't particularly good or entertaining. At least, not in my opinion.
And Storm Rider, obviously yes I meant Rams/Titans. Patriots/Titans would have been an... unlikely... Super Bowl matchup, lol. I guess, despite my arguments that it wasn't a great game, this Super Bowl *is* still affecting me somewhat. Otherwise I don't know where that slip could've come from.
I get where you're coming from. I disagree on the it being sloppy because of the offenses, though. The New England Patriots had the best offense of all time and were being completely shut down. I have never seen the Patriots' O-line crumble like that in the 8 years since they picked up Bellichick. Brady isn't that great of a quarterback when he's got that much pressure on him. (Of course, there's not a lot of quarterbacks who ARE in that situation. He was getting absolutely manhandled.) The Patriot's D was doing pretty solid themselves, up until that last drive. I won't even say they did a BAD job except on the game-winning touch-down. The miracle throw and miracle catch from Manning to Tyree was magical. There's no other way to describe it. You can't say the Patriots didn't do all they could to stop it, either. 3 guys had their hands on Manning, and Tyree had a defender on him the whole time, somehow managing to catch the football with his helmet. To me, this game was proof that lots of punts doesn't make a game boring. I love the old-fashioned scuffles, where guys just pounded each other in the mouth until one of the two teams just crumbles. That's what I saw last night.
I disagree with all the sports announcers that are saying these Patriots will now just be a footnote and don't deserve to be mentioned alongside the "best teams of all time." Yeah, the Super Bowl is incredibly important and it's what puts the stamp on good seasons, but as much as I hate them, the 2007 Patriots are one of the best teams to ever play, or will ever be fielded in professional football. I don't see their loss at the end so much a fall as I see it a true David and Goliath match-up.
It did finally dawn on me today, though, that this football season is officially over. I don't count the pro bowl.
My hopes for next year:
The Arizona Cardinals will finally have a .500 season.
The Patriots don't make the playoffs.
Peyton Manning gets the single season TD record under his belt again.
Philip Rivers dies in a fire, and the end result is the Chargers winning the Super Bowl.
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Where the hell are the Chargers supposed to get a quarterback capable of winning the Super Bowl? Turner can't magic one out of thin air, and Volek's a pretty good backup but he's not capable of leading a playoff team.
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Magic.
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I forgot where it was, but when they were talking about Eliah Manning they said, "Not much of a looker, just close your eyes and pretend he is Tom Brady"
Am I the only one who does not get the appeal of Tom Brady? He looks like such a meathead. Eli is sort of cute, like a confused puppy.
I don't follow football all that closely, but I can actually say that watching the Super Bowl was worth it this year. I mostly watched to see how stoned Tom Petty would be at halftime, but then the game turned out to be pretty entertaining. I did not waste my evening.