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Title: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: doki on 22 Jan 2008, 14:05
I know, im as shocked as you are...

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Gemmwah on 22 Jan 2008, 14:08
I literally heard about this ten minutes ago, and thought it was some kind of joke, but after checking up mtv i saw the report, I seriously couldn't believe it, he was so young.

I'm curious to know how he died.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: tommydski on 22 Jan 2008, 14:11
This is sad. I can't claim to be very familiar with his work but that is way too young. I was looking forward to the new Batman film.

RIP.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: blanktom on 22 Jan 2008, 14:13
i'm totally stunned.

this is probably the most unexpected hollywood death i have ever faced in my lifetime. i honestly dont know if i'll be able to watch dark knight now without feeling really crappy about it all.

rest in peace.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: MusicScribbles on 22 Jan 2008, 14:16
I don't...what...how...geeze.
Way too young. When I watch Dark Knight, this will probably affect my viewing experience as well.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: SevenPinkerton on 22 Jan 2008, 14:17
Wow, first Brad Renfro, now Heath Ledger. If I were a sexy young actor I'd be hiding under my covers right about now.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Liz on 22 Jan 2008, 14:20
Oh man.

I know some of the people here were never a fan of his work, but I think he was an amazing actor. Whether you liked it or not Brokeback Mountain was a spectacular movie and he did the most amazing job in that one.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Johnny C on 22 Jan 2008, 14:21
Constantly underrated young man. When he delivered on a role, he really delivered - Monster's Ball, Brokeback Mountain and from what I hear I'm Not There.

Thoughts are with his family right now.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Narr on 22 Jan 2008, 14:22
Someone just mentioned this to me on AIM and I didn't believe them. Then I went to check his Wikipedia page and someone edited a giant erect penis to display over the entire article, and then I realized it wasn't a joke.  I was scrambling to find an article about it.

Man, this sucks.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 22 Jan 2008, 14:23
this might be the most unexpected thing i've ever heard.

wow.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dasota on 22 Jan 2008, 14:29
They say tha it might have been drug use/suicide as they found sleeping pills by his bed. But there are also reports of it being a  cardiac arrest/heart attack.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Liz on 22 Jan 2008, 14:31
I'm curious to know what will happen with the movie he was filming before his death, since it sounds interesting. I wonder if they had filmed enough of his scenes to keep him in it, or if they will have to re-shoot with a new actor.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Jackie Blue on 22 Jan 2008, 14:32
this is probably the most unexpected hollywood death i have ever faced in my lifetime.

I presume you're unfamiliar with the murder of Adrienne Shelley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Shelly), then.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: captain zoe on 22 Jan 2008, 14:40
I just heard this on the preview to the next news broadcast and just about felt my heart stop.  It's so horrible.  He was really a talented actor in just about everything he did, like someone else said I think he really was underrated...what a tragedy, and a shame. 

The first article I read cited possible drug use but we'll see what happens...

Oh this makes me so sad. 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: mberan42 on 22 Jan 2008, 14:54
Man, what am I going to think of when I watch 10 Things I Hate About You A Knight's Tale Brokeback Mountain Monster's Ball now?

I'm a big fan of his work. Such a tragedy...
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Liz on 22 Jan 2008, 14:57
You like all three of those, don't pretend.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: De_El on 22 Jan 2008, 14:58
Holy christ. Always a shame when someone dies this young.  And what a fucking swan song, too.  With Brokeback Mountain it seemed like he was really hitting his stride and then with The Dark Knight I would have started to really pay attention to him. I mean, he's been in some mediocre movies too, but he was usually good.

I mean. What? Fucking. gah
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Orbert on 22 Jan 2008, 15:22
Heath Ledger found dead in New York (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080122/en_nm/ledger_dc_4)
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Meg on 22 Jan 2008, 16:01
Sad.  :/
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Lines on 22 Jan 2008, 16:06
That is sad. 28 is too young and his daughter is only 2, which means she probably won't remember him. His career was really beginning to take off, as well. :(
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: littlelove on 22 Jan 2008, 16:30
on the plus side, at least his kid wont grieve too much, since she was so young?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: tomselleck69 on 22 Jan 2008, 16:31
I presume you're unfamiliar with the murder of Adrienne Shelley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Shelly), then.

Way to one-up that grief! (high five)
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: RallyMonkey on 22 Jan 2008, 16:47
I am going to compile a bit of the info that I have heard regarding his death.

First of all, in an article about a month ago, he talked about how the Joker was such a demonic and morally corrupt character, that ever since he started filming The Dark Knight, he hasn't been able to sleep more than two hours a night, because when he sleeps he has really terrible dreams about the Joker. So he had to start taking sleeping pills to get any sleep.

He was found with sleeping pills on his bed.

His maid said that when he took two sleeping pills, he would wake up after 2 hours, so likely he was trying to sleep longer, and thus, took more.

So, it is very possible that playing the part of Joker is what killed him.

This, along with the stuntman dying back in September on the Dark Knight set, must make Nolan feel terrible.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: 0bsessions on 22 Jan 2008, 16:55
Source of that article? I'm genuinely curious about this.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: jtheexploder on 22 Jan 2008, 17:10
[img width= height=]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/fatkidAUCTIONS/heath.jpg[/img]

morbid...i know.


his death shocked me. just like Anna Nicole's
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: RallyMonkey on 22 Jan 2008, 17:10
Are you talking about the interview in which he talked about not being able to sleep? I read it about a month ago, no idea where I found it from. I will try to find it.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Ozymandias on 22 Jan 2008, 17:27
I'm wondering if his Joker diary contains "actor playing the Joker succumbs to the weight of the role and dies."

Why so serious?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dissy on 22 Jan 2008, 17:30
So, my mum calls me and says:
"So, the news right now is Fred Thompson has dropped out of hte race, and Heath Ledger has died."

I said:
"Yeah, yeah, yeah... Wait, The Joker died?!?"
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dasota on 22 Jan 2008, 18:00
I would really like to know the source for that article. I'm not a huge Heath Ledger fan. I do like his work, but I never closely followed it, but for some reason I really want to dig deeper into this, especially since he did act as the Joker and my first thoughts from when I read about his death I thought that it was possible that his work on the movie and his role as the Joker might have messed him up mentally. I think that it might mostly be the curiousity in me of why people try to kill themselves that makes me want to work at this one. Even if it wasn't a suicide, it's still interesting with his mental health to me how a fictional character screwed with someone's head that much.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KvP on 22 Jan 2008, 18:17
I don't know why, but I'm not feeling surprised at all.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Johnny C on 22 Jan 2008, 18:31
Before we blame it on a curse, he'd also separated from the mother of his child in September.

There are a number of conditions that might have led to this. Let's not waste time speculating on them, hey?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: De_El on 22 Jan 2008, 18:48
I'm wondering if his Joker diary contains "actor playing the Joker succumbs to the weight of the role and dies."

Why so serious?
You mean the list of things the Joker would find funny?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 22 Jan 2008, 20:01
My Mum woke me up with this news and I just couldn't believe it. Poor guy, so fucking young. He'd actually been great in the last few movies I saw him in, he was fantastic in I'm not there and absolutely heart wrenching and disturbing in Candy. His work in the Dark Knight also looks terrific, and I can't wait to see it. What a fucking waste.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: BekkahJane24 on 22 Jan 2008, 20:02
it's still interesting with his mental health to me how a fictional character screwed with someone's head that much.

Maybe it's not so far fetched, I remember when I was watching Eye for an Eye with Keifer Sutherland for a school project, the research I had to do... I found an article saying that he'd had to have therapy both during and after the production of the film to keep him from flipping his lid, because the character was an intensley f**ked up charachter.

Either way, his parents in WA just released a statement through the radio (currently listening to Vega here in Melbourne), saying it wasn't suicide and that he had indeed been sick with a bad flu the past month or so but was on his way to recovery.

Either way, still color me shocked. My boyfriend told me and I told him to stop being a nob... >.<
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Ishotdanieljohnston on 22 Jan 2008, 20:22
In some ways thats a relief, but it also upsets me too know he wanted to live... gee... I'm all sad about this.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: DonInKansas on 22 Jan 2008, 21:23
EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to dry up all your tears.  Carry on. 

*feigned seriousness*

OMG an actor died from OD'ing on sleeping pills I'm so sad.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ThePQ4 on 22 Jan 2008, 21:31
Um, well, I'm sure if your Aunt were a famous person who was in the limelight for quite a few years you, or if you were an older/more active member of the form, you could have made a thread about her death (sorry for your loss, by the way. Loosing family sucks).

However, she is not, so don't whine about that to us.

As for Heath Ledger --I was in the car on my way to work when I heard about it, and was like, "Whaaaaat?" switched to another station, heard it again, and basically drove to work in a bit of a shock. I mean, I've seen a pretty fair share of his movies, and I really liked him (not because he was a hottie, which was a plus, but because I really liked the characters he's played --10 Things I Hate About You is one of my favorite movies) as an actor. He really was just starting to develop a serious acting credit, and this is kind of shocking.

He's not that much older then me, and he's dead... There are actors way older then him that I am afraid of dying soon, and this just makes it all the more "in your face" that everyone's gonna go sometime.  (On another, sort of similar note: I am now even more scared that Alan Rickman is gonna die before I get the chance to meet him...eeeeeeeeeeeee)
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Johnny C on 22 Jan 2008, 21:35
oh holy fuck are we going to have a conversation about relative worth every time someone dies

i mean i am sorry about your aunt too but jesus christ yeah thousands of people die the other day but a good chunk of people in this thread admired the man's work so they are entitled to grieve that loss

god amighty
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Orbert on 22 Jan 2008, 21:37
Some actors can switch a character on or off quite easily. To them, acting is just a job, and when you're off duty, you're done.

With others, they totally immerse themselves mentally and emotionally into the character. They really do "become" the character. Try as much as possible to think like him, embrace his values, study his backstory and believe it is real, in order to act like him. Some actors do go a little nuts when the role is very intense. Heath was apparently that way. So in a way, yeah, The Joker killed him.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: thehollow on 22 Jan 2008, 21:44
Am I going to hell because my first thought upon hearing this was "At least they finished filming batman"? Seriously though, this is pretty shitty. 28 is way too young for anyone to die. He was a pretty good actor, and definitely seemed to be on the verge of a really good career. I wouldn't be surprised if the death was somehow related to the joker role. If anything, it just gives credit to how seriously he took the part and how much he invested into making it a great performance.

And if we're talking about people we're afraid are gonna die soon, I gotta add George R.R. Martin to the list. I know he's really not that old, but at his current rate there's a very real chance he could die before finishing all of the SoIaF series.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: DonInKansas on 22 Jan 2008, 21:45
Um, well, I'm sure if your Aunt were a famous person who was in the limelight for quite a few years you, or if you were an older/more active member of the form, you could have made a thread about her death (sorry for your loss, by the way. Loosing family sucks).

However, she is not, so don't whine about that to us.


I wasn't whining, I was making a point.  Do you cry for every millionaire that OD's on sleeping pills, or just the pretty ones with talent?

I don't see what my postcount has to do with anything.   I guess I haven't quite got the attitude right that I've seen from so many others around here that have spewed worse bile without being harassed.  Guess I need an e-penis implant.

I edited my first post so you could continue your weeping.  Carry on.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KvP on 22 Jan 2008, 21:53
Some actors can switch a character on or off quite easily. To them, acting is just a job, and when you're off duty, you're done.

With others, they totally immerse themselves mentally and emotionally into the character. They really do "become" the character. Try as much as possible to think like him, embrace his values, study his backstory and believe it is real, in order to act like him. Some actors do go a little nuts when the role is very intense. Heath was apparently that way. So in a way, yeah, The Joker killed him.
I'd have an easier time believing his character from Candy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424880/) killed him. Rampant speculation though it may be, people are throwing around vids of interviews in which Ledger scratches at himself quite a bit. Some opiates cause histamine reaction, most codeine-based medicines contain caffeine to counteract the effect. But hell, he may have just had a rash or something.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Alex C on 22 Jan 2008, 22:00
I'll tell you why people responded so badly DonInKansas.

First and foremost: You're being a dick. Seriously, wtf? You basically walked into the thread, slapped people in the face and demanded justification as to why they feel simple empathy. Fuck that noise.

Second, we've done this before in the Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's thread, which quickly devolved into a flaming pile of shit for the same reasons I previously mentioned.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ThePQ4 on 22 Jan 2008, 22:02
...just the pretty ones with talent?

I don't get what being pretty has to do with it --just because he was attractive doesn't mean that his death is more devistating. He was a great actor, and I enjoyed his films, and I am genuniely sorry that i won't get to see any new ones (after Dark Knight). Do I think that he was attractive, yes I suppose I do, but is that why I will remember him: No, of course not. Even some of the most unattractive actors (in my perspective) are missed, (i.e. first person to mind is Richard Harris) . And why are they missed? BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING FANTASTIC PEOPLE WITH INCREDIBLE TALENT.

I think you're jealous. Or bitter. Or both. Get over it and stop trying to make everyone mad.

Edit: Okay. Whipstich beat me to the last bit, and put it much more simplisticly then I did. I am now in a ranty mood...gah.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: DonInKansas on 22 Jan 2008, 22:05
Sorry, didn't mean to rile you all up.  I'm all done.  It sucks he died.  He was good at his job. 

Are you sure Whipstitch has enough posts that his opinion matters, though?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ThePQ4 on 22 Jan 2008, 22:08
Whipstich is not contributing to the assholery.

(I'm done derailing the thread now, back to what the thread is about)
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Ladybug on 22 Jan 2008, 22:11
Wow.. I got chills when I saw a headline saying he'd been found dead.. It's just..unbelievable, in a way. I'm a huge fan of his work, and he was so young, and with a little daughter and all :( It's just not right..

RIP
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 22 Jan 2008, 22:12
Um, well, I'm sure if your Aunt were a famous person who was in the limelight for quite a few years you, or if you were an older/more active member of the form, you could have made a thread about her death (sorry for your loss, by the way. Loosing family sucks).

PQ4 was not implying that your opinion doesn't matter.  You have a right to your own opinions just as much as someone with 5000 posts (unless they're completely wrong).  He was merely stating that you (and your aunt by proxy) are not well known enough to have a thread.  I sincerely empathize with your loss and I am not saying that you or your aunt are not worthy of empathy from all of us, but the loss of a young actor who was just beginning to get into his prime years as an inspiring actor is a grave loss to many of us.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Adnrew on 23 Jan 2008, 01:13
Sad.

I'm glad his final role was The Joker.
It looks promising:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vsAoqSOv5mo
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: doki on 23 Jan 2008, 01:22
i'm by no means a Heath Ledger fan, in fact i thought that lance he carried in Knights Tale was the less wooden of the two.  that said, the man had made a genuine effort in the world of acting.  stuff like Brokeback and, hopefully, dark knight showed how much better he was actually becoming.  he had a lot of potential and not enough time to bring it out.  that's what i thought the true tragedy was
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 23 Jan 2008, 02:05
When it comes down to it I think that he was a good actor who made some shitty films. But he also made some really good ones (check out Two Hands). It's sad when anyone dies but this feels more relevant to me because I liked even his crappy films. Ah well.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: doki on 23 Jan 2008, 02:43
[img width= height=]http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4599/ledgerwestboroko2.png[/img]

So angry right now!
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Spinless on 23 Jan 2008, 03:35
That church is just one crazy man who successfully brainwashed most of his family into loud, shouting zombies. That, a lot like a mans death, is a terrible tragedy. Everytime I hear about the WBC, I just take a deep breath, relax and think to myself "Some members of that family got out. They escaped that insanity."
This makes me feel better and gives me hope for the future.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Inlander on 23 Jan 2008, 05:36
I'm pretty certain his funeral's going to be in Australia. I'd like to see those arseholes fucking try it here.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: axerton on 23 Jan 2008, 05:42
Holy fuck. what kind of grade A cunt would picket someone's funeral, or even think about it.
that makes me feel physically sick.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Spinless on 23 Jan 2008, 05:54
Personally, I'd LOVE to see them attempt to picket a funeral in Australia, and be quickly arrested. Unfortunately (fortunately?) they'll never get into the country.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Lines on 23 Jan 2008, 06:39
Because he was in a movie, a rather good movie actually, and his character was gay makes him rot in hell. I honestly don't know where they get these things. I don't think those people have brains, common sense, or any form of empathy whatsoever. That's just as stupid as picketing soldier's funerals and saying they deserved what they got because of our heathen country.

But whatever about that.

As for his death, the CNN article said that the pills found near him were OTC sleeping pills. If he was having trouble sleeping, maybe he just accidentally took too many. I find it hard to think about him committing suicide, but I can see the sense of having sleeping problems after playing the Joker, if he's one of those actors who actually tries to become the person he's acting, which it appears he was.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: 0bsessions on 23 Jan 2008, 06:50
These asses do that crap all the time. This attention grab is brought to you by the same twat who wanted to have a statue erected at the spot Matthew Shephard died to commemorate his "entrance into Hell." I was actually planning to attend a free hugs rally that was being staged outside of a Boston Church a few months ago, but the guy didn't even show up anyway.

The best way to handle people like him is to drown him out with something positive or just ignore him entirely. Once he's dead, his church will quickly slip even further into irrelevance.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ThePQ4 on 23 Jan 2008, 06:50
I think I just died a little inside myself, reading that flyer.
Bigots make me sad, and angry.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 23 Jan 2008, 07:26
Before I read that flier I was vaguely saddened by the death of a man I would never have met anyway. I was also a little worried that this will probably delay the release of Dark Knight. Now I'm just pissed and want to beat those guys. I don't believe in heaven or hell but I sure as fuck believe in showing a little fucking respect to the dead no matter what you think of their choices as professionals let alone their choices as private individuals. I would hope that if they tried that shit here there would be a riot. I would also like to think that the police would make only a perfunctory attempt at control but this might be wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dissy on 23 Jan 2008, 08:00
Holy fuck. what kind of grade A cunt would picket someone's funeral, or even think about it.
that makes me feel physically sick.

These Fucks
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9835/z1ci.jpg)

and these Fucks
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/227630/5_61_westboro_protester.jpg)

I mean, hell, look at the first image.  Those Fucks are making children, who look to be under the age of 10 holding these signs. 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 23 Jan 2008, 08:13
There's a guy that comes to our campus every year and makes his 8-year-old son hand out flyers of aborted fetuses.  It makes me sick.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: SusurrusIgnoramus on 23 Jan 2008, 08:57
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jpzdve6RF9k9My1ItZGj3eRprEEwD8UBLHA00

Quote
Ledger said in an interview in November that "Dark Knight" and last year's "I'm Not There," took a heavy toll. He said he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film, and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."

"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told The New York Times. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which only worked for an hour.

Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Jan 2008, 09:50
There's a guy that comes to our campus every year and makes his 8-year-old son hand out flyers of aborted fetuses.  It makes me sick.

Wow, the kid's 8 every year?

Magiiiiiiiiiic.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: OrigNES on 23 Jan 2008, 10:24
Sad I hear about it on my way home from work yesterday then read about that damn church and their plans today.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dasota on 23 Jan 2008, 10:37
He took two Ambien pills and only slept for an hour or two? Seriously? My mom used to take that stuff and it messed her up real bad. I can definately see how this was an accidentl overdose if he was only sleeping that much at a whack.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: blanktom on 23 Jan 2008, 11:05
i'm pretty sure that in Britain the WBC would be arrested for pulling that sort of shit (or at the very least moved on).


its funny, because those are the same people who attack islamic fundamentalists for their extreme views. some people have absolutely no ability to look at their lives objectively.

the sleeping pills hypothesis is looking very likely at the moment.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dimmukane on 23 Jan 2008, 11:09
It should be mentioned that the less sleep you get, the more prone your organs are to failing.  Quite a few meth addicts have gone on binges lasting several weeks and now rely on dialysis because their kidney's have stopped working.  I imagine a lot of sleep deprivation would probably weaken your heart, so even if he did take more than the recommended amount of Ambien, there may have been other factors.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Narr on 23 Jan 2008, 11:57
You know, I was wondering when the extreme fundies were going to get out of their bomb shelters/trailers and claim Ledger died as an act of God in retaliation to his role in Brokeback Mountain.

To them, I would ask a few questions.  #1: Why now instead of back when that movie was even relevant?  The media has largely moved past the film and what it "stood for."  #2:  Why just him and not any of the other actors or directors that played a part in the making of the film?  #3: Why an actor that portrayed a gay man rather than actual openly gay or lesbian actors and actresses?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: blanktom on 23 Jan 2008, 12:04
because theyre openly gay. but a straight person pretending to be gay?

BLASPHEMY I TELL YE!
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Alex C on 23 Jan 2008, 12:35
Stress and insufficient sleep is a vicious cycle; as SAD and others with various conditions can tell you, it's often really hard to tell where depression stops and sleep deprivation begins.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: RobbieOC on 23 Jan 2008, 12:35
Also, in the flyer they claim he is already in Hell (which they confirmed how?), so how does it make any sense to go to his funeral and just add insult to injury, so to speak? Crazy, people, I tell you. As a Christian who is not a member of the WBC, I will be praying for his family.

This death is one of the strangest things I've heard in a while, especially the supposed link between his death and his role as the Joker. It's definitely going to make the movie way more effective, because think of how creepy it will be to see him on the screen all made up...
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: VisualRhetoricProject on 23 Jan 2008, 12:52
He was cute.  He won't be anymore, unless he's embalmed soon.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Paav on 23 Jan 2008, 13:01
I enjoyed him as an actor and being of a similar age this hits closer than I like. It's just awful to think about his daughter.

The WBC has actually been the motivation for many towns and counties around the US to pass laws prohibiting protesting within a certain distance of a funeral. It's pretty much just an extended family of religious wack jobs from Kansas. They sure do push my belief in freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: UnidentifiedFlyingCupcake on 23 Jan 2008, 17:45
It's so sad. Like (almost) all of you said... so young, such potential, such a loss for his family. Thoughts and prayers to them.

On a related note, it gives me a little bit of hope to come here and see a bunch of people who have a rational, compassionate, human outlook on this. The last couple of days all I've heard was either girls completely freaking out because they think it's such a tragedy because he's so hot, or people saying "screw him; thousands of other people die every day; why should I care; he was an idiot." Thank you, QC forumites, for being reasonable and empathetic human beings.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ampersandwitch on 23 Jan 2008, 18:06
He was cute.  He won't be anymore, unless he's embalmed soon.

Oh my god what is this post.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Lines on 23 Jan 2008, 19:10
Poorly executed nonsensical babble that is misconstrued for crap?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Ben yayayayayayayay on 23 Jan 2008, 19:12
This all reminds me of Brandon Lee's death.

THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 23 Jan 2008, 19:34
Oh my god what is this post.

Someone apparently thought this was the Something Awful forums.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: captain zoe on 23 Jan 2008, 20:28
Holy fuck. what kind of grade A cunt would picket someone's funeral, or even think about it.
that makes me feel physically sick.

You should just check out their website, that's enough to make you puke.  They picket soldier's funerals and were planning on doing it at the Virginia Tech funerals, I don't know if I did.  They're grade-A psychos. 

Heath could kick their asses though. 

I heard the thing about the Dark Night and how it (playing Joker) was affecting him this morning on the news.  That's kind of upsetting that something like that may have gotten to him.  I hope it wasn't the reason for all of this.  Sad to see such a bright and upcoming talent leave so soon. 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: BekkahJane24 on 23 Jan 2008, 20:29
I met Heath Ledger once, in passing. I was just one of those Nameless Anonymous Faces. I was visiting my friend at work, and he was being ushered to his seat in the cinema and had to go through the regular rigmarole of having his ticket checked. He was super polite and nice. Very cool about me being in his way. So, as with everyone else, yes, I'm definitely praising this forum :)

Since news of it broke here yesterday, I've been running around like a blue-ass-fly telling people not to speculate. To speculate is to assume.. blah blah blah. And to top it all off, I've gotten nearly every possible Brokeback Mountain + Heath Ledger joke sent to me via text message possible. So not funny.

Reading peoples' views on this matter, views that are respectful and clearly educated (some of them anyway), has made me go "Yay for Humanity!" It's nice to know that there are more people in this world with compassion and empathy then my circle of aquaintences.

Although, that flier made me so angry, still makes me so angry. Words... there are no words to describe how it makes me feel.

Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Nodaisho on 23 Jan 2008, 20:34
They tried to picket a funeral of a soldier in... Denver, I think. The local bikers society, along with some police, and some non-lunatic Christians, came, just planning to hold up bedsheets on broomsticks to make it impossible for the funeral-goers to see the protesters. Don't know why, but I remember reading that the protesters never even got within a block of the funeral. I would like to think that the bikers had something to do with that, but the police presence makes me think that unlikely.

Sometimes I wish that someone would hasten Phelps' death, probably not something I should be wishing, but I am tired of those fucktards getting all this press time.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Orbert on 23 Jan 2008, 20:44
He was cute.  He won't be anymore, unless he's embalmed soon.

Oh my god what is this post.

Oh come on, it was pretty funny. Not the most sensitive post, but it's true.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 23 Jan 2008, 20:52
Orbert, you should never post ever again.

The consequences will be dire...
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: BekkahJane24 on 24 Jan 2008, 03:37
The WBC funeral picketing is a prime example where I would not mind common sense going above the law at all. Were I a police officer and I saw a biker gang fucking them up with brass knuckles I would look the other way.

:) I totally wouldn't be adverse to offering "constructive criticism" either. Phone books, pillowcases... enjoy...

What gets me is, sure, believe in what you want to believe in, but, why aren't they taking into consideration that his CHILD will more then likely be there, that the mother of said child, will be there. I would really enjoy a small group of people to do the same to them while they're grieving, heck, I'd love to be up front in a group that does that. Watch how fast they jump up and down about people not respecting their right to grieve in private.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 24 Jan 2008, 07:07
Sometimes I wish that someone would hasten Phelps' death, probably not something I should be wishing, but I am tired of those fucktards getting all this press time.

There has to be mass picketing at his funeral.  I will travel to wherever it is held to participate in that.

EDIT: Actually, in theory, it's poetic justice, but in practice, I think it would be a bit mean-spirited and would sink to their level too much for my liking.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Orbert on 24 Jan 2008, 08:39
Orbert, you should never post ever again.

The consequences will be dire...

 :evil:
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 24 Jan 2008, 11:18
Fuck.  You ruined it!!!!

You are a horrible person and you should feel bad.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dissy on 24 Jan 2008, 11:34
The WBC funeral picketing is a prime example where I would not mind common sense going above the law at all. Were I a police officer and I saw a biker gang fucking them up with brass knuckles I would look the other way.

Actually the Biker gang is a bunch of Veterans, many from Vietnam.  They come from all walks of life, republican, democrat, etc.  and at the two funerals I was at, there were no fights.  The ones I met all seemed like really good guys.

Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: 0bsessions on 24 Jan 2008, 11:54
While Dissy's post seems to be hinting at them, it's not very clear: there is actually a group of bikers that attends these funerals simoutlaneously and offers, free of charge, to essentially stand between the WBC protesters and the funeral in an effort to essentially block them out and allot the family a modicum of privacy.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 24 Jan 2008, 13:01
They are doing God's work

The bikers, of course
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Orbert on 24 Jan 2008, 14:48
Fuck.  You ruined it!!!!

You are a horrible person and you should feel bad.

I no longer have any idea what you're talking about, so I'm going to stop posting.



In this thread, that is.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Trillian on 24 Jan 2008, 15:03
There's a guy that comes to our campus every year and makes his 8-year-old son hand out flyers of aborted fetuses.  It makes me sick.

Wow, the kid's 8 every year?

Magiiiiiiiiiic.

This made me giggle, and is now my favourite part of this thread. 

And this is possibly the best thing Michael Moore has ever done.  I am not really a fan, but this is one thing I support wholeheartedly.  It is kind of a big "fuck you" to Fred Phelps (who is now dead and obviously in heaven for his good work here on earth).

Code: [Select]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u3F4n_t2Mw
While Dissy's post seems to be hinting at them, it's not very clear: there is actually a group of bikers that attends these funerals simoutlaneously and offers, free of charge, to essentially stand between the WBC protesters and the funeral in an effort to essentially block them out and allot the family a modicum of privacy.
They are called The Patriot Guard Riders!  There website may be found here: http://www.patriotguard.org/ (http://www.patriotguard.org/) 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: 0bsessions on 24 Jan 2008, 15:07
There's a guy that comes to our campus every year and makes his 8-year-old son hand out flyers of aborted fetuses.  It makes me sick.

Wow, the kid's 8 every year?

Magiiiiiiiiiic.

Or a sliding comic book timeline. Spider-Man's been twenty-five since like 1986.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Storm Rider on 24 Jan 2008, 16:19
Fuck.  You ruined it!!!!

You are a horrible person and you should feel bad.

I no longer have any idea what you're talking about, so I'm going to stop posting.



In this thread, that is.

He was talking about your postcount, which when he told you to stop posting was at 666.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 24 Jan 2008, 17:51
used to frequent

Good decisions, all around
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Inlander on 24 Jan 2008, 18:08
At a forum I used to frequent, one of the mods stopped posting when he hit 1337 and communicated only through editing other peoples' posts.

Hmm . . .
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 24 Jan 2008, 19:20
That would have been a capital idea
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KvP on 24 Jan 2008, 22:07
In a forum I frequented for awhile, there were transient threads that didn't affect postcounts when posted in, and some guy hit 666 and would routinely derail the transient threads because he wanted to talk about topics that were covered in non-transient threads. The mods banned him. Those mods were close to my heart. If people bitched at them they'd switch out avatars with pictures of diseased genitalia.

So yeah, I think we're pretty off-topic right now.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: BekkahJane24 on 25 Jan 2008, 02:08
LoL. Nudging this back on topic...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=371907

For anyone that didn't catch A Current Affair tonight here in Australia, here ya go.

I would just LOVE for him to come here now. I can see it clearly in my head. FINALLY, as one nation, we'll stand up and do something together, whole-heartedly. LoL.

But seriously, this man just has no respect for ANYONE, how is it he's been allowed to live all this while, and yet, talented people, people who actually make a difference in this world, like Heath Ledger, get taken away so abruptly, when they have so muh to live for.

- In an aside, I now am desperately wanting an "I'm A Sodomite, And Proud Of It." T-shirt to wear around that wanker if ever....  :evil:
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 25 Jan 2008, 09:43
(http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2007/entertainment/2501_phelps_a_lg.jpg)
Holy shit, that picture is hilarious.  It looks like they're just floating there, and he's terrified of them.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: KvP on 25 Jan 2008, 11:04
The line between terror and laughter is ever thin.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 25 Jan 2008, 18:48
Jeez, Fred Phelps looks like he's getting old.

I hope he gets Alzheimer's.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Lines on 25 Jan 2008, 18:57
I normally wouldn't wish that on anyone, but I think he deserves something like that.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ThePQ4 on 25 Jan 2008, 19:01
My sister and I went and rented as many Ledger movies as we could. So far, we watched The Order, which we've both seen (I love that movie), and now I am watching "Two Hands". My sister is a total pussy however and went to bed. Cripes, it's only 9 pm. She's such a lightweight.

Other movies we've rented are: Candy, The Four Feathers, Legends of Dogtown and Blackrock (which I'm not sure if he has a big role in?). We attempted for 10 Things I Hate About You, Ned Kelly, and Monster's Ball but they were out :( Bitches.

HOWEVER, I only paid like $5 to rent all of these movies 'cause my local video store is awesome.

Anyone else having a Ledger-Fest this weekend?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: 0bsessions on 25 Jan 2008, 19:13
You've completely lost me. While I will say, it is tragic that Heath Ledger died, The Order is far and away one of the single worst movies I have ever seen. I'd put it in the bottom three.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 25 Jan 2008, 19:38
The Sin-Eater isn't bad as silly horrorish films go. I haven't seen Brothers Grimm yet and I kind of wanted to check that out.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dimmukane on 25 Jan 2008, 20:03
It got kind of panned by my local paper's critics (a C- or something). But it had fantastic art direction (it's a Gilliam movie, I know), the acting by the leads wasn't half bad, but there were a few poorly written lines.  I liked it.  I don't think I've come across a bad Gilliam movie, and I've seen just about all of them.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: philharmonic on 25 Jan 2008, 20:21
Hmm ok i'll comment here...

Where to start? Tragic. I've watched "10 Things" about 10 times and enjoyed it every time. I own "Knight's Tale" on DVD and lost track of how often i've seen it. I remember watching "the Patriot" and liked that one too. I didn't see "Brokeback mountian" and I don't intend to however no that he's dead I think I might. I also have not seen "Lords of Doggtown" but might want to see now.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Nodaisho on 25 Jan 2008, 20:36
Jeez, Fred Phelps looks like he's getting old.

I hope he gets Alzheimer's.
I think he is 82.

Bekkah, I remember something like that in a Something Positive, the answer was that if you were god, would you prefer to spend more time around the nice people or the assholes?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: leperphiliac on 26 Jan 2008, 13:20
The plot sickens:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/

John Gibson of FOX news strikes again.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Trillian on 26 Jan 2008, 14:12
I really didn't need another reason to dislike John Gibson.  What a ridiculous and horrid man.  It never ceases to amaze me how callous and hypocritical people such as he can be.

And as far as The Brothers Grimm (as it was being discussed a bit earlier), I thought it was pretty cute.  It was a bit corny, but there was some great art direction and the soundtrack (composed by Dario Marianelli, who also composed scores for V for Vendetta, Pride and Prejudice, and several others) was rather good. 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Narr on 26 Jan 2008, 18:28
Jesus Christ disapproves of John Gibson.

I just want that on the record.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Jan 2008, 22:09
Jesus Christ and I have that in common.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: RallyMonkey on 27 Jan 2008, 15:57
http://www.newsweek.com/id/105580

Christopher Nolan on Heath Ledger.

Quote
One night, as I'm standing on LaSalle Street in Chicago, trying to line up a shot for "The Dark Knight," a production assistant skateboards into my line of sight. Silently, I curse the moment that Heath first skated onto our set in full character makeup. I'd fretted about the reaction of Batman fans to a skateboarding Joker, but the actual result was a proliferation of skateboards among the younger crew members. If you'd asked those kids why they had chosen to bring their boards to work, they would have answered honestly that they didn't know. That's real charisma—as invisible and natural as gravity. That's what Heath had.

Heath was bursting with creativity. It was in his every gesture. He once told me that he liked to wait between jobs until he was creatively hungry. Until he needed it again. He brought that attitude to our set every day. There aren't many actors who can make you feel ashamed of how often you complain about doing the best job in the world. Heath was one of them.

One time he and another actor were shooting a complex scene. We had two days to shoot it, and at the end of the first day, they'd really found something and Heath was worried that he might not have it if we stopped. He wanted to carry on and finish. It's tough to ask the crew to work late when we all know there's plenty of time to finish the next day. But everyone seemed to understand that Heath had something special and that we had to capture it before it disappeared. Months later, I learned that as Heath left the set that night, he quietly thanked each crew member for working late. Quietly. Not trying to make a point, just grateful for the chance to create that they'd given him.

Those nights on the streets of Chicago were filled with stunts. These can be boring times for an actor, but Heath was fascinated, eagerly accepting our invitation to ride in the camera car as we chased vehicles through movie traffic—not just for the thrill ride, but to be a part of it. Of everything. He'd brought his laptop along in the car, and we had a high-speed screening of two of his works-in-progress: short films he'd made that were exciting and haunting. Their exuberance made me feel jaded and leaden. I've never felt as old as I did watching Heath explore his talents. That night I made him an offer—knowing he wouldn't take me up on it—that he should feel free to come by the set when he had a night off so he could see what we were up to.

When you get into the edit suite after shooting a movie, you feel a responsibility to an actor who has trusted you, and Heath gave us everything. As we started my cut, I would wonder about each take we chose, each trim we made. I would visualize the screening where we'd have to show him the finished film—sitting three or four rows behind him, watching the movements of his head for clues to what he was thinking about what we'd done with all that he'd given us. Now that screening will never be real. I see him every day in my edit suite. I study his face, his voice. And I miss him terribly.

Back on LaSalle Street, I turn to my assistant director and I tell him to clear the skateboarding kid out of my line of sight when I realize—it's Heath, woolly hat pulled low over his eyes, here on his night off to take me up on my offer. I can't help but smile.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Jan 2008, 16:22
I'm gonna be honest, I got a little lump in my throat from reading that.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Lines on 27 Jan 2008, 17:11
Ditto.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: De_El on 27 Jan 2008, 17:13
That kind of thing makes you really feel it.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: BekkahJane24 on 27 Jan 2008, 17:16
Wow... I mean, that's just awesome.

It made me all teary eyed. The level of respect he garnered at such a young age is amazing.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: öde on 27 Jan 2008, 17:51
This is pretty awful, then I read what Nolan wrote and it sucks even more. Here's to good people.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: RedLion on 27 Jan 2008, 21:07
People like Phelps and that living cum-stain on Fox News sometimes sincerely make me wish the First Amendment wasn't quite so all-encompassing. I can't wait for the day when they're both outed for hiring a gay prostitute while simultaneously cross-dressing and wearing a diaper.
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 27 Jan 2008, 23:27
Who the fuck is John Gibson?
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Trillian on 30 Jan 2008, 03:56
I was sort of happy that there was a moment in time that I was able to witness someone untainted by Gibson.  Obviously it is now ruined...but it was still there. 

That article on Heath Ledger and his abilities as an actor was amazing, and I too got a little lump in my throat.  It is so very sad that one so young and talented, not to mention kind, has passed. 
Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Dissy on 06 Feb 2008, 16:41
Coroner came out today and says that he died of an accidental overdose.


Title: Re: Death of Heath Ledger
Post by: Narr on 06 Feb 2008, 18:01
Yeah, I think that's what most people were expecting.

Sad loss to the movie industry. :(