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From The Wall Street Journal via Empire magazine:
It's not often you get movie scoops from publications like The Wall Street Journal, being, as they are, more enamoured of bar graphs than Batman. But the US publication recently ran an article about Disney Pixar no longer outsourcing their video game tie-ins and, almost in passing, revealed the much guarded plot to Toy Story 3.
According to the Journal, in the third movie "Woody the cowboy and his toy-box friends are dumped in a day-care center after their owner, Andy, leaves for college".
That sounds much like a spin on Jesse the Cowgirl's arc in Toy Story 2, where she was abandoned by her grown up owner (we can't think of a less harsh sounding term) and ended up in a junk sale.
It's a good path for the third and possibly final film. It could potentially bring the story of Woody and Buzz full circle, if they eventually end up in the hands of a new child to love them. It does, however, show that a lot of time's passed between Toy Story 2 and the new movie, since Andy was no more than 12 in that film. What would that mean for the toy characters? Will Woody be falling apart? Will all Buzz's paint be worn to nothing. God knows, after a few years, all our childhood toys were chewed, run over and generally scarred from too many interactions with the dog or waste disposal.
Sounds interesting to me, especially like the suggestion of the toys being beaten up and aged.
The Toy Story movies are not just magnificent animated movies but some of the best movies of the last 10-15 years. Heres hoping the third can live up to those standards.
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But normally Disney animated sequels tend to be cheapo direct to video/dvd knock offs with entirely different voice casts and usually different writters/directors/animators etc..
With this you are looking at the input from all the major players behind the first two movies, so I'm keeping my hopes up!
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The Pixar films were good since Pixar wasn't directly owned by Disney. Now they are.
I have no hope for this. Sorry Pixar, Disney just fucks shit up too much.
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Man, I am so sick of the shit rep Disney gets. They are fucking children's movies, people. Watch them without expecting some kind of critical masterpiece and maybe you'll enjoy them. I know I enjoyed Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch plenty.
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I really liked Emperor's New Groove and Lilo too, but fuck if I didn't forget them within the year. Maybe it was a lack of distinctive songs?
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The Pixar films were good since Pixar wasn't directly owned by Disney. Now they are.
I have no hope for this. Sorry Pixar, Disney just fucks shit up too much.
John Lasseter, director of Toy Story 1 & 2 and VP of Pixar, is now the Chief Creative Officer of Disney, effectively meaning Pixar controls Disney's movie division as of 2006, not to mention that Steve Jobs (he owned and was CEO of Pixar, if you didn't know) is the largest shareholder of Disney. Bob Iger took Michael Eisner's shitification of the company and is trying to turn it around, leaning heavily on the fact that Pixar was insanely successful where the rest of the company wasn't.
Besides, as long as Brad Bird works for Disney, it is a good company.
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Oh man I did not know that. Maybe there is hope for this movie.
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Fuck all you guyses teams hating on Disney/Pixar, I'm excited for Wall-E and I'm sure they can do the first two films justice.
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I am so crazy excited for Wall-E. It's the first time I've gotten really excited for a Pixar movie since the Incredibles.
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Ditto what you two just said.
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When Pixar came back into Disney, the first thing they did was cancel this sequel because it was going to be aweful. Course, it was in the hands of Disney only, so there was good reason to be annoyed.
With Pixar back in charge, theres a chance of it being good.... But
Toy Story was released in 1995 at which time the graphics were unbelievable with amazing voice acting and a fun intersting plot.
But it's thirteen years later. The people who loved the first one are 20-30 by now. And on top of that, Disney has their hands in it will probably be on par with Bambi II, The Fox and the Hound II, and Lady and the Tramp....II...
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Toy Story II was originally designed to be a 'cheapquel'. Pixar hit it so far out of the ballpark, though, that Disney poured more money in to make it the only animated sequel the company has ever released in theaters.
Also of note: Steve Jobs is part of a six-man 'steering' executive board that was formed after the Pixar acquisition and Eisner's departure. One of the very first things they did was demand that 'cheapquels' stop being produced. If a movie is so bad it will go straight to DVD, it is so bad that the public will never see it.
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I'm not too concerned - Pixar hasn't produced a real stinker yet.
I'm more worried that Toy Story III will give me further guilt issues for keeping Kitty Pie stored in a dusty box these past years and selling all my barbies in a rummage sale.
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Toy Story II was originally designed to be a 'cheapquel'. Pixar hit it so far out of the ballpark, though, that Disney poured more money in to make it the only animated sequel the company has ever released in theaters.
Also of note: Steve Jobs is part of a six-man 'steering' executive board that was formed after the Pixar acquisition and Eisner's departure. One of the very first things they did was demand that 'cheapquels' stop being produced. If a movie is so bad it will go straight to DVD, it is so bad that the public will never see it.
Yeah, you said it much better than I did :|
no more cheapquels!
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At the very least, it can't be any more atrocious than Lion king 1 1/2.
God, talk about desecration of the sacred. What an awful, terrible movie. The Lion King is probably tied with Beauty and The Beast as the best Disney movie. And what do they do? Completely destroy any semblance of message or seriousness that the original movie had in order to focus on the two dipshits of the series.
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hHakuna matata my friend, hakuna matata.
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It better not be in any way similar to that Buzz Lightyear shit. Otherwise, to infinity... and beyond!
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I think I'm the only person in the world that was and always has been underwhelmed by Toy Story. I was surprised they made a sequel. I'm stunned they're making a third/
I'm learning to like CGI animation, but my first love will forever be ink'n'paint. I've enjoyed most Pixar movies, and funnily enough I must also be the only person in the world who loved Cars.
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I think I'm the only person in the world that was and always has been underwhelmed by Toy Story. I was surprised they made a sequel. I'm stunned they're making a third/
I'm learning to like CGI animation, but my first love will forever be ink'n'paint. I've enjoyed most Pixar movies, and funnily enough I must also be the only person in the world who loved Cars.
Your really not. I thought the first one was decent... Only decent. Then they made the second one which I hated. Basically reusing all the sprites and adding mabee one new one, sort of like Shred the Third... But a third one? This one would need a miracle to survive, and an even bigger miracle to get me to watch it.
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At the very least, it can't be any more atrocious than Lion king 1 1/2.
God, talk about desecration of the sacred. What an awful, terrible movie. The Lion King is probably tied with Beauty and The Beast as the best Disney movie. And what do they do? Completely destroy any semblance of message or seriousness that the original movie had in order to focus on the two dipshits of the series.
Am I wrong for admitting I enjoyed the sequel to Lion King? Not 1 1/2. Fucking 2. Oh man. I loved 2 just as much as one. Not any more. Just as much.
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Your really not. I thought the first one was decent... Only decent. Then they made the second one which I hated. Basically reusing all the sprites and adding mabee one new one, sort of like Shred the Third... But a third one? This one would need a miracle to survive, and an even bigger miracle to get me to watch it.
The toys running across the street underneath traffic cones and completely gumming up traffic was pretty hilarious.
And the Shrek movies have always been pop-culture reference smarmy bullshit. The first one was all right, but after that it's just staring at a goat's balls for 90 minutes.
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I think I'm the only person in the world that was and always has been underwhelmed by Toy Story. I was surprised they made a sequel. I'm stunned they're making a third/
I'm learning to like CGI animation, but my first love will forever be ink'n'paint. I've enjoyed most Pixar movies, and funnily enough I must also be the only person in the world who loved Cars.
Yes, you are the only one - to be underwhelmed by Toy Story. I loved it, and remember watching it in theatres, and being one of three adults in the theatre without a child as cover.
And you're not the only person to love Cars either -you share that love with my 4 year old.
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i'm not sure whether to be excited over the return of one of my favourite films when i was younger, or horrified at the thought of how it might be butchered
anyone know when it is coming out?
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I think I'm the only person in the world that was and always has been underwhelmed by Toy Story. I was surprised they made a sequel. I'm stunned they're making a third/
I'm learning to like CGI animation, but my first love will forever be ink'n'paint. I've enjoyed most Pixar movies, and funnily enough I must also be the only person in the world who loved Cars.
Yes, you are the only one - to be underwhelmed by Toy Story. I loved it, and remember watching it in theatres, and being one of three adults in the theatre without a child as cover.
And you're not the only person to love Cars either -you share that love with my 4 year old.
Hey, I liked Cars too.
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There was nothing wrong with Cars - as a kid's movie, but dammit, there wasn't anything for the adults here, and if I'm trapped in a theatre with beaucoup de kids, I want something to distract me - other than the obvious.
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Fuck that. Since when did a third movie of a Disney classic ever turn out even half fucking decent? Stop fucking with my childhood!
Aladin
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Fuck that. Since when did a third movie of a Disney classic ever turn out even half fucking decent? Stop fucking with my childhood!
Aladdin
I think that's pretty much cause they ripped off of Ali Baby and the Fourty Thieves for one of them, I think it was the second one. The third one was Return of Jafar....which doesn't seem to be too bad, but I saw it a long time ago. Kingdom Hearts II ripped off Return of Jafar for the Agrabah world.
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You actually have it backwards. The Return of Jafar was the second one, and I can't remember the name of the third one, but it had a certain epicness to it that wasn't seen in the other two.
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I'm excited for Toy Story III, hopefully it'll do great when it's released. The idea of the toys finally being abandoned by Andy will be interesting to see. I haven't been disappointed in a Pixar movie yet, I mean yeah some are better than others but they're still good compared to some of the other 3D movies out there. And Toy Story is a classic, no matter what.
I'm also exited for The Princess and the Frog! I'm so happy with John Lasseter working with Disney and bringing 2D animation back. Eee.
Oh and I looooove Lion King 2 too. I don't know why it's just a lot better than most, if not all, of Disney's shitty straight to DVD sequels.
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-straight to dvd-
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I am so dissapointed that the original idea of it being somehow set in Thailand obviously didn't go through. That movie would have kicked ass.
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Toy Story III's fate just hangs in the air right now. They may have the original talent returning, but that hasn't stopped other popular sequels from failing. Since the story's so much more a 20-30 year old's childhood than the present generation, it has a tough market to please as far as children go. I'm not sure how many toys I'd have played with if I grew up in the era of the PlayStation2 and if I'd have become as attached to the toys as Andy is in the movie. Maybe that's an issue they'll touch on with the third installment too, if it's worth two-craps.
Darn kids these days, with their Wiis and PSPs. In my day, if your parents let you have a TigerElectric handheld, you were happy!
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At the moment 2 of my sons have Nintendo DS' - when I was their age Pong was just coming out....
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I think you may be underestimating children these days. I'm 16 right now, and it seemed to me like Toy Story came out at the perfect time in my childhood. I don't recall exactly how old I was when it came out, but I became obsessed with it after I saw it in theaters, first movie I ever had on tape, and I watched that continuously.
I know this wasn't just me, for everyone I've always talked to about it agrees that Toy Story was one of, it not their favorite movie. Sure, life was different back in 1995, but it couldn't have been too different, for I remember playing the Toy Story game on the SNES.
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Same with me, 16 and I remember seeing it in the theatre. I would still like to see a new one, though I doubt it would be much good.
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Just because they are children's movies doesn't mean they have to be shit.
This.
Toy Story is one of the best movies of the past twenty years.
A most excellent essay on the topic of Buzz Lightyear's spiritual delusion: http://metaphilm.com/index.php/detail/toy_story/
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Just because they are children's movies doesn't mean they have to be shit.
This.
Toy Story is one of the best movies of the past twenty years.
A most excellent essay on the topic of Buzz Lightyear's spiritual delusion: http://metaphilm.com/index.php/detail/toy_story/
Oh man...this is JUST like that book The Pooh Perplex...or whatever it's called. There are tons of essays talking about all these different things about how sophisticated Winny the Pooh is...seriously..it's for kids.
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Toy Story II was and pretty much still is the only "Disney" sequel I've ever enjoyed. Almost all the others have been absolute shit. And aside from that I have yet to see a Pixar movie I've been disappointed in. I'm excited for this though, it's been listed on IMDB for a while now.
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Traileerrrrrr (http://io9.com/5412998/toy-story-3-trailer-a-toys-life-in-hell)
Also release date.
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Wall.E -> Up -> Toy Story 3?
Pixar is amazing and they are easily some of the best storytellers of this generation. But why another Toy Story? I don't think there needs to be more, didn't they say everything that needed to be said with the first two movies?
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yay more toy story! I love toy story, totes can't wait for this :D
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Wall.E -> Up -> Toy Story 3?
Pixar is amazing and they are easily some of the best storytellers of this generation. But why another Toy Story? I don't think there needs to be more, didn't they say everything that needed to be said with the first two movies?
Obviously not?
I mean, I'm generally against excessive sequels on principle (excessive usually means any sequels at all, by the way) but honestly Pixar have more than earned my trust by now. There's been plenty of times when I have gone in to a Pixar flick fully expecting to be underwhelmed based on my assumptions from the basic premise of the story, and been summarily blown away. By now I've learnt my lesson.
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Yeah, Up seemed like the lamest story ever and then I saw it and I cried and laughed and it's one of my favorite Pixar movies, the set of which makes up a large subset of my favorite movies ever.
Not gonna bitch about a sequel when the first was great, the second managed to be even better, and Pixar's still being excellent. If it turns out to be bad then okay they finally dropped the ball but I'm not putting stock in that theory.
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I loved it, and remember watching it in theatres, and being one of three adults in the theatre without a child as cover.
I watched Toy Story 2 in a theater in Korea. Because it was subtitled and my sisters and I were the only Americans in the theater, I would get the jokes before anyone else in the theater had read it yet. Then because I was laughing so loud everyone would turn to look at me and miss the subtitles; I ruined the movie for those poor people.
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You actually have it backwards. The Return of Jafar was the second one, and I can't remember the name of the third one, but it had a certain epicness to it that wasn't seen in the other two.
Aladdin and the King of Thieves. You're right, the thrill of the third movie went way beyond of the first one. I saw it a bunch of times as a kid, and it stayed with me until this day. I can still remember the excitement.
The Lion King is one I fondly remember too, but I'm not sure whether or not I ever saw Toy Story. Can't say I care much about any of the sequels, then.
Wait, what's that stuff about Lion King... one-and-a-half? I remember anticipating the second movie, it really gave me a sense of novelty, since I had never seen a sequel to something I loved before that. After that there was a third... I think? Oh, apparently that was called 1 1/2. Yeah, never saw that, thought it was gonna suck. Apparently it did?
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One of my roommates loves Lion King 1.5. I've not yet watched it, but he generally has a pretty good taste in movies (generally)
reading about Aladdin and the King of Thieves makes me really want to watch the whole trilogy again (I have all three on VHS still). I watched the first one all the time as a kid, and occasionally the Return of Jafar, but I only watched the third one maybe 3 times total.
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Lion King 1 1/2 is the one that follows Timon and Pumba, yes? If it is, that movie is absolutely irredeemable. What they do is show events from the first Lion King and apparently Timon and Pumba were there too. It's a little insulting to see if you have respect for the original film. You know in the first movie, all the animal kingdom bows down to Simba? In 1.5, that's because Pumba farts and it knocks all the animals out. Oh Disney, what were you thinking?
I think most of the Disney sequels were horrible. The one that always struck me as the most tasteless was Bambi 2. There was a film that really didn't need to be made.
Also, watching Fantasia 2000 makes me a little sad. Celebrities? In Fantasia? They should keep up the Fantasia movies though, little animated shorts set to classical and maybe a few contemporary pieces? Could be pretty awesome.
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I am having very mixed feelings about #3. True, it's pretty much being made by Pixar and corporate is putting effort into making a real movie rather than a shitquel, but I thought #2 was pretty average. Not bad, but far from the greatness that Pixar was capable of. These guys may have made WALL-E, The Incredibles, and Monsters, Inc, but they also made Cars, which was also pretty average.
So anwyays, I am skeptical and hopeful.
Also, random Pixar fact: Apparently Joss Whedon was on the Oscar-nominated writing team for the original Toy Story.
Other random Pixar fact: Up is the second-highest-worldwide-grossing movie ever released by Pixar.
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Other random Pixar fact: Up is the second-highest-worldwide-grossing movie ever released by Pixar.
Up is quite sad at certain times to the point where I don't want to watch it again for emotional reasons.
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but I thought #2 was pretty average.
Go on, be more wrong, I dare you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0j1EHF8Y0)
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I have 4 kids. The 3 of them that are old enough to realize that a third Toy Story is on the way, are excited as shit about it. Mind you, the first one was made way before any of them were even thought of being conceived.
I'm not holding my breath, but the fact remains that the Toy Story movies are on the list of 'don't mind watching with my kids, because they don't bore the living shit out of me.'
Pixar hasn't screwed up yet, to my taste, so I'll likely be buying this on DVD for my kids - though I seriously doubt we'll make it to a theater for it.
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Also, watching Fantasia 2000 makes me a little sad. Celebrities? In Fantasia?
Here's a rundown of the celebrities featured in the interstitials for Fantasia 2000:
Deems Taylor
Leopold Stokowski
James Levine
Itzhak Perlman
Quincy Jones
Steve Martin
James Earl Jones
Angela Lansbury
Bette Midler
Penn and Teller
While the inclusion of Steve Martin, Bette Midler and Penn and Teller might have raised a few eyebrows, I don't really see the problem with any of these people being featured in brief interstitials between the shorts. They're a welcome addition to the show and don't detract from it in any manner. It seems almost like complaining about a nature documentary by the BBC having David Attenborough narrate it.
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Has anyone seen it yet? Totoro makes a special appearance
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Wait, there was a thread where everybody bitched about another pixar movie coming out because people are -that- afraid of Disney fucking things up? Christ, you people.
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ragh corporatism is bad blah blah blah
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Oh my god I loved this movie and I squealed at Totoro and it was so so so so so so so so so so so good. I cried. I so cried.
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I saw it last night. Excellent all around.
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I saw it. I found it a li'l weird how much of the movie relied on Ken being effeminate for laughs and found it a touch predictable, which is perhaps inevitable considering its the third movie. Enjoyed myself anyway.
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Effeminate Ken has been a joke for longer than Pixar's existance
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I think the best line about Ken was definitely Mr. Potato Head calling him an accessory. It's not just that he's effeminate, it's that he's like a Disney prince. He's a plastic eunuch who exists only to serve as a foil for Barbie's dream adventures. He is, in the end, a token male toy made for girls, which has to be a remarkably disturbing thing for any toy to admit.
I am surprised that Mattel let them make fun of Ken so much, especially when they wouldn't even let Barbie in the first one.
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Effeminate Ken has been a joke for longer than Pixar's existance
Yeah, but when most people make the joke it doesn't feel like it had roughly an hour's worth of running time.
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judging by the positive like 200 reviews versus maybe 3 negatives on rottentomatoes, i think there has been enough said about this movie. but oh my god. i did not beat my wall-E cry count of six times--most of the crying was done towards the end, but there were maybe like four different times where tears came close.
i've been excited for this movie for a really long time, since it is basically a representation of the culmination of my childhood (i was four when i saw the first toy story, and for the next five or so years buzz and woody were my main toys. now i am going off to college and so is andy!) and it did not disappoint at all.
and the animated short was the coolest thing i've ever seen, i don't understand pixar's boundless creativity
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I kinda thought Wall-E was pretty bloodless, preachy and overrated, tbh. I'm just not capable of feeling too bad for a tiny robot that listens to Barbara Streisand and furiously emotes, I guess. I liked Up! a lot better.
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The fact that Up made me cry 5 minutes into the film, both times I saw it, definitely says something.
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This movie is hella good.
The scene near the end (you know the one) I was on the verge of tears. Sooo emotional.
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I am appalled that after premiering here in Edinburgh, it will take this movie another month to play here again.
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I am not ashamed to admit I cried like a little girl at the end.
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This movie is hella good.
The scene near the end (you know the one) I was on the verge of tears. Sooo emotional.
Man which one? The one where they all accepted their fate to be burned alive and held hands as they watched their fate inch slowly toward them or when Andy explained the toys to the little girl and she points out Woody and he can barely bring himself to part with him and then they are playing with them and it's adorable or when Andy gets in the car to drive off and the girl makes Woody wave goodbye to him and he gets all choked up and oh god I am crying again fuck you Pixar.
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What happened here I don't even know
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the best the best the best
laughed and squealed and smiled so hard and cried like a child and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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they all accepted their fate to be burned alive and held hands as they watched their fate inch slowly toward them
Man, this part.
I had gotten so used to watching these characters always being able to extricate themselves from any situation through their cleverness and teamwork, that when Jessie looked at Buzz like "What do we do now?", and Buzz's facial expression just read "I don't know", it was like, holy shit.
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This movie is hella good.
The scene near the end (you know the one) I was on the verge of tears. Sooo emotional.
Man which one? The one where they all accepted their fate to be burned alive and held hands as they watched their fate inch slowly toward them or when Andy explained the toys to the little girl and she points out Woody and he can barely bring himself to part with him and then they are playing with them and it's adorable or when Andy gets in the car to drive off and the girl makes Woody wave goodbye to him and he gets all choked up and oh god I am crying again fuck you Pixar.
Oh god both of these oh god this movie was the best. Though the Ken thing did get a little grating. ("You're a girl's toy!" "OH MY GOD YOU TAKE THAT BACK!")
Also, so much love for the short beforehand, but the most love of all for the underused and therefore not overwhelming or irritating Mr Porklepants. "Do you mind, I'm trying to stay in character!" nearly killed me, as did Barbie's sudden and unexpected declaration about how a government should be decided by common consensus rather than by brute force.
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Yeah it was all I could do not to audibly squeal during any part of the film with the little girl. So cute! I hope someday I have kids like that.
As to crying: it wasn't just the parts people mentioned already so much as I just started bawling pretty much the entire third act and didn't stop until the credits stopped rolling. But then Pixar films do tend to affect me in that way all the time. I've seen Wall-E and Up three or four times each and they still make me lose it.
Anyway, all the people who said this movie was going to suck at the start of this thread needs to come back and receive their public humiliation
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We don't get this film until next month.
This makes me sad.
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Fuck that. Since when did a third movie of a Disney classic ever turn out even half fucking decent? Stop fucking with my childhood!
The Pixar films were good since Pixar wasn't directly owned by Disney. Now they are.
I have no hope for this. Sorry Pixar, Disney just fucks shit up too much.
When Pixar came back into Disney, the first thing they did was cancel this sequel because it was going to be aweful. Course, it was in the hands of Disney only, so there was good reason to be annoyed.
With Pixar back in charge, theres a chance of it being good.... But
Toy Story was released in 1995 at which time the graphics were unbelievable with amazing voice acting and a fun intersting plot.
But it's thirteen years later. The people who loved the first one are 20-30 by now. And on top of that, Disney has their hands in it will probably be on par with Bambi II, The Fox and the Hound II, and Lady and the Tramp....II...
Wall.E -> Up -> Toy Story 3?
Pixar is amazing and they are easily some of the best storytellers of this generation. But why another Toy Story? I don't think there needs to be more, didn't they say everything that needed to be said with the first two movies?
These fuckers is called out.
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man if pixar just fucked my childhood that was the saddest fuck ever.
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I just searched the internet for a Norwegian releasedate. 27th of August! Fuuuuck that.
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God. Oh god. This movie .....sigh. I can't even put into words how I felt about it.
The little girl/Bonnie was an exact cartoon copy of my little sister. I swear they acted just the same, and I was all "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" the whole time she was on.
And then I cried. A lot. I cried so much. My shirt was soaked. I'm not even kidding.
And the short was fantastic. So well done.
And all the references to the previous films! The whole opening scene! I thought that was all fantastic.
I just loved it. I absolutely loved it. And then later that night, while my boyfriend and I laid in bed, I told him the stories of the first two, in detail. And I realized how much of a dork I was. And also that we need to buy the dvds of all of them, so we can show our kids.
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You know, the more I think about it, the more I think I'm ready for Cars 2. Not because I think it'll be spectacular, but because I think Pixar won't turn it into a deeply emotional movie. Their last three movies have had varying degrees of darkness to them, with this one being the darkest of them all, I think, and a foray back into a Cars/Ratatouille style fun cartoon romp will be refreshing. Especially since Monsters Inc. 2 will probably be their 2013 movie and I can see how easily they can turn that dark and emotional. They need a change of pace for a couple of movies.
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Why am I being called out? I expressed doubt as to whether or not it was necessary, and considering they've tied it all together I am looking forward to seeing it. I do, however, have to wait another week because the person I'm seeing it with is in Toronto. And yeah, from what I've heard Toy Story 3 is utterly fantastic but a guy can't say that he's unsure of a film which at that point we had seen very little of?
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I had thought I had posted here, but clearly I haven't.
like everyone else - I loved it, I may well see it again in cinemas, which for me is almost unheard of. I dont think even then start of the up made me cry, but the start of this with all the toys trying trying for one last attempt to be played with had me choking up. when bullseye was scrabbling in the shards of rubbish, clearly not understanding what was going on as well I was crying my eyes out, and I had just managed to regain control of myself when andy was unsure about giving up woody along with the rest of them and I was gone again.
The story in general was brilliant, as well as emotional. It was such a large scale story, but it never felt over the top like some scenes in the second one did. and when the adds showed they were bringing back deluded buzz I actually groaned, but they made it clever and original this time and it fitted the story perfectly. Spanish buzz was a nice touch too.
There were moments that could have been better though, I think Bo Peep deserved more than the one moment they gave her, Also the little green men had such potential for a great line rather than just "the claw!" after their moment of heroism.
As for Cars 2, I am very excited about it - purely because the short is apparently going to be short Toy Story movie. I really hope it has more mr Porkelpants!
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Saw it this past weekend. It was absolutely amazing. I don't have much to add to what's already been said, except that it's interesting how many people mention that they cried while watching this movie, even when or how many times. So yeah, I cried a couple of times too. I'm okay with that.
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Also this fucker, he scared me in every scene he was in
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7223/crashmonkeyh.jpg)
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Gaaaaah I had blocked that fucker out of my memory.
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When you're alone, in your bed, you will hear it's screeching
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(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4c05xW7jn1qzjjuqo1_500.jpg)
aaaaghhhh andy is a real life person
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aaaaaaggh
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Oh man I criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiied so much. Sad tears and happy tears in the same goddamn movie.
DISNEY. PIXAR. argh
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How would you feel if the movie ended like this (http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5043/theendwr.jpg)?
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I probably would have yelled obscenities at the screen. Even with little kids in the theater.
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A very small part of me actually believed they might end it like that during that scene and was screaming inside. It was a very small part of me and ever so brief but my mind raced for any possible way they could escape and never actually settled on the eventual solution, which was made 100x better and funnier due to my panic.
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Yeah, while I realized it was technically a kid's movie and they were unlikely to torch the entire cast to death, I still couldn't help myself from being like no... nO NO NON NO NO NO in my brain a little bit.
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I'm definitely in the minority, but I think it would have been better to end there, rather than have a dues ex machina. I would've been shocked and yelled obscenities, sure, but it almost feels like a cop out on the themes of the movie and just an excuse not to piss off the parents of small children. It just feels like cake now. Best cake of the year, but still cake.
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I would have loved that ending but it really doesn't have the sense of closure that Toy Story needed but "God From The Machine" indeed.
Watched this last week and....I guess I'm in the very small minority that didn't like the film. I really dug the beginning and the end and the how the toys were dealing with being essentially useless. I guess I got a little over-hyped on this film considering how I've read over a page about you guys were bawling during this movie. I was definitely thinking that Pixar was going to wreck me emotionally and I ended up nearly bursting into tears during the movie just because I knew the ending was anticipating how hard Pixar was going to reduce me to a quivering pile of tears.
But anyways, I don't think they could have done a better ending and I don't think I can name a trilogy that had a better and more satisfying ending.
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Man, Toy Story 3 was amazing. It was obviously made for the people who were kids and grew up with Toy Story when they were kids, and are now grown. I came pretty close to crying at the end. The weird thing was, while I loved Toy Story as a kid, it wasn't ever really a series that I regarded as super-essential. Toy Story 3 completely changed all of that.
Also, the opening scene where the first scene of the first movie is pretty much brought to life was fucking brilliant and hilarious.
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A very small part of me actually believed they might end it like that during that scene and was screaming inside. It was a very small part of me and ever so brief but my mind raced for any possible way they could escape and never actually settled on the eventual solution, which was made 100x better and funnier due to my panic.
Yeah, I was crying so much at this point. My brain was too far into "OH NOES" territory to think "man they can't end it like this" so I was just tears tears tears sniffle sniffle and then the claw came in and I was so mad at myself for thinking they could end it like that.
Would see again. Maybe in 3D this time...
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Yeah the Deus Ex Machina was kind of silly but at least they lampshaded it beforehand by having the little green men regarding "the claw" as an actual god.
I don't know what it is but I am never, in the moment, not completely convinced that everything can all go completely wrong and everybody dies or at least fails miserably when I am watching Pixar movies. Of course, it never has and probably never will but for some reason I just keep thinking that one of these days Pixar really is going to say "fuck it" and just emotionally scar a whole bunch of kids (and a whole bunch of adults, for that matter) for the rest of their lives.
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I have trouble calling something that was established over all three movies in the series, and at the beginning of the scene, a Deus ex machina.
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I saw this tonight and really loved it.
Of course because it's an animated film about toys and kids it's being regarded as a kid's film, but there is no way this is a kid's film. It's a hilarious comedy but it's also a deeply serious and moving film about the difficulty of adapting to the change that is an inevitable consequence of life and about the emotional brutality I think we've all experienced as children when it seemed like our best friends had "replaced" us. And, I'm not kidding, that scene with the holding hands and waiting to be incinerated was one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in cinema I've seen in a long time. With that scene Pixar fully earned the film's sweet conclusion.
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Ridiculously predictable bits here and there, followed quite a lot of tropes to make it more hardcore.
Great chuckles all around, though. Anyone spotted the less obvious cultural references throughout?
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hurf durf tropes dick butt
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I thought the plot was predictable, for the most part, I just don't think that it actually hurt the movie. It's Hitchcock's old "surprise vs. suspense" chestnut. If you give a crap about the characters, you stop thinking about what you know and start worrying about what they know, because as an audience member there's nothing you can do about anything anyway. I knew things would turn out alright in the end but I didn't really like the idea of the characters being unhappy in the meantime.
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I have trouble calling something that was established over all three movies in the series, and at the beginning of the scene, a Deus ex machina.
My god... has Pixar created the ultimate Chekhov's gun?
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Yeah, that's particularly why I thought it was so awesome. The deus ex machina was a THREE MOVIE LONG RUNNING JOKE. That's amazing.
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Bullseye is the best character.
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This might have been the first non-disappointing movie that I've seen this whole summer. Wow.
Lotso the bear seemed a little bit like another version of the Prospector from 2 (key difference being Prospector was scared of kids and was only going by what he's heard while Lotso had experienced that betrayal firsthand). They were both spewing the same half-truth to manipulate the people around them, but the scale on which they were doing so was very different. Pixar worship is crazy sometime, but man. It is not undeserved.
I cried and I laughed and I cried and so on. That. Was. Amazing.
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Yeah, when Lotso first came on screen, I thought he was pretty cool, then something about how he was behaving reminded me of Stinky Pete, and I thought "He's gonna turn out to be a bad guy." But that didn't diminish the effect when it unfolded.
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Man, no way did it diminish the effect! I don't care what anybody says. Whether or not I "called" something doesn't change the fact that I was still relieved/appalled/touched when it happened. A good story can do that.
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Pixar loves having their villains originally be regular or cool (usually old) dudes that end up being bad. Lotso, Stinky Pete, Charles Muntz, and Auto all fall into this category.
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True. But to be fair, it's a pretty common thing in movies. If you're gonna have a bad guy, either they start off good or maybe neutral, or they're bad to begin with. I think it's worse when some character is introduced who's obviously the bad guy, because then you're basically waiting for him to pull some shit about 3/4 of the way through, when everything seems to be going fine. Then he does something dastardly and you say (sarcastically) "Oh, I didn't see that coming". On the other hand, that's still better than someone who's been a good guy the whole way suddenly turning 180 because of something having to do with his mom/dad/brother/whoever who was never even mentioned before. That's just cheap.
And in the case of Lotso, it was actually a double-twist or something. They'd saved his ass, he seemed grateful, and I actually thought he was gonna turn out okay, like he'd seen the light or something, and then he still left them to die. It was pure spite at that point; he didn't even have a reason other than he was an asshole. Stinky Pete at least had something like a rationale for wanting to stay in the box and retain his collector's value.
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I just learned that Lotso was originally conceived and even storyboarded as a Care Bear.
I want to see that version of the movie so much now.
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And in the case of Lotso, it was actually a double-twist or something. They'd saved his ass, he seemed grateful, and I actually thought he was gonna turn out okay, like he'd seen the light or something, and then he still left them to die. It was pure spite at that point; he didn't even have a reason other than he was an asshole. Stinky Pete at least had something like a rationale for wanting to stay in the box and retain his collector's value.
I definitely did not see that action coming in a disney movie... like others who posted, I saw the fact that he was a "bad guy" coming but his second double cross was definitely well executed.
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Also. There is a reference to A New Hope in Toy Story, a reference to The Empire Strikes Back in Toy Story 2, and a reference to Return of The Jedi in Toy Story 3.
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I liked that Sid the neighbour was the bin man.
Didn't cry though.
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Also. There is a reference to A New Hope in Toy Story, a reference to The Empire Strikes Back in Toy Story 2, and a reference to Return of The Jedi in Toy Story 3.
Glad to see someone's finally pointed it out. Coincidentally, it made the third reference the coolest. :-P
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Okay, I remember the Zurg-Buzz connection in Toy Story 2 (pretty hard to miss that one) and I think I remembered some kind of Star Wars reference in TS3, but can someone just point out the three references so we can all be amazed? Thanks!
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1) Sid torturing Woody asking where the rebel base was.
2) Zurg's "I am your father."
3) Big Baby dramatically throwing Lotso into the dumpster.
Not only were all three Star Wars references, they're also all Vader references.
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3) Big Baby dramatically throwing Lotso into the dumpster.
I picked out the third one the easiest, mostly because the camera angle was exactly the same as it was in RotJ.
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Oh shit, I can't believe I forgot that one! Yeah, Big Baby tossing Lotso was sweet, and the angle and everything was perfect.
Sid torturing Woody = Vader torturing Leia, I'm gonna have to watch that again.
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Sid torturing Woody = Vader torturing Leia, I'm gonna have to watch that again.
Where are your Rebel friends now? Heh heh heh heh...
Sid's teeth in the magnifying glass should easily count as a good example of nightmare fuel.
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A mixed review :? ..Good and Bad both..But most i liked was Lilo...and ending is also fine.
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Grrr, more bot spam. I try to report it, but for some reason, some whole threads are missing the report link on each post for me, while in other threads, they're where they're supposed to be.