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Title: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 10:03
Who else is ridiculously excited for "Roll Up The Rim To Win" season!?
I saw somebody walking down the street with one of the Tim Hortons cups on my way to work and I got so excited

Also let us know what you won!
so far I got one free coffee
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: 0bsessions on 25 Feb 2008, 10:52
Um. What?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Liz on 25 Feb 2008, 10:54
You're not Canadian, this doesn't apply to you. Please move along.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: imboden on 25 Feb 2008, 10:57
All I ever win are invites to play again. 
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Feb 2008, 11:08
Um. What?

Quote from: The Wikipedia entry on Tim Hortons
Tim Hortons Inc. is a coffee-and-doughnut fast food restaurant chain. Founded in Hamilton, Ontario, in 1964, the store rapidly expanded across Canada to become the country's largest quick-service food chain.

Tim Hortons franchise stores are plentiful in Canadian cities and towns. As of July 1, 2007, there were 2,733 outlets in Canada, 345 outlets in the United States and one outlet just outside Kandahar, Afghanistan. Tim Hortons has supplanted McDonald's as Canada's largest food service operator; it has nearly twice as many Canadian outlets as McDonald's, and its system-wide sales surpassed those of McDonald's Canadian operations in 2002. The chain accounted for 22.6% of all fast food industry revenues in Canada in 2005. Tim Hortons commands 76% of the Canadian market for baked goods (based on the number of customers served) and holds 62% of the Canadian coffee market (compared to Starbucks, in the number two position, at 7%).

...From March until May of each year, Tim Hortons holds a very large marketing campaign called Roll Up The Rim to Win. Over thirty million prizes are distributed each year, ranging in value from vehicles to televisions, to store products. Customers determine if they have won prizes by unrolling the rim on their paper cup when they have finished their drink, revealing their luck underneath.

Advertising for the contest is always very aggressive. The ubiquitous Tim Hortons ads on the boards of hockey rinks change from the normal "Tim Hortons" signage to a "Rrroll up the Rim" display; the timing of the promotion also is key because it is during the height of the NHL season, ensuring that viewers across North America will see the ads. Television and other media are inundated with advertisements that repeat the "R-r-roll up the R-r-im to Win" slogan and encourage the recitation of the phrase using rolled R's to match the announcer's delivery.

Prizes are not distributed randomly country-wide; each of the company's distribution regions has its own odds for prize-winning.

In March 2006, two families were fighting over the Toyota RAV4 SUV prize of C$32,000 value after their daughters found a winning "roll up the rim" coffee cup in a garbage bin of an elementary school in Saint-Jérôme, north of Montreal. The younger girl had found a cup in the garbage bin and could not roll up the rim, so requested the help of an older girl. Once the winning cup was revealed, the older girl's family stated that they deserved the prize. Tim Hortons originally stated that they would not intervene in the dispute. A further complication arose when Quebec lawyer Claude Archambault requested a DNA test be done on the cup. He claimed that his unnamed client had thrown out the cup and was the rightful recipient of the prize. On April 19, 2006, Tim Hortons announced that they had decided to award the prize to the parents of the girl who had initially discovered the cup.

I vaguely recall starting a thread on this forum about that lawsuit, as well.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: 0bsessions on 25 Feb 2008, 11:19
If the case was settled in April of 2006, I didn't see anything on here about it. I didn't join up until just under a year ago.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tommydski on 25 Feb 2008, 11:28
What's the point anyhow?

Are people seriously going to buy more coffee on the very slim possibility that they will win something? I don't see any return here.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 11:34
Actually the odds of wining a coffee, tea, cookie, or doughnut are 1 in 3 i believe
they also give away free bagels, sandwiches, soups, and as the wiki qoute above stated bigger prizes such as tv's and automobiles

I work as a supervisor in an xbox call center and am currently pulling 12 hour shifts
I pretty much depend on Tim Hortons to get me through my shift, so this is a very joyus time of the year for me!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2008, 11:36
This "Tim Horton's" sounds like a canucky Dunks, only named after that old hockey player.


I suppose "Terry O'Reilly's Coffee Emporium" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tommydski on 25 Feb 2008, 11:39
If you buy a coffee and you win, that's just great for you. If you didn't win, would you go back and buy another coffee until you did? I don't see it. What do Tim Horton's gain from this?

I guess it comes down to simple publicity but man, Tim Horton's no longer needs to advertise in Canuckistan. Let's face it. I spend a fair amount of time in the Great White North and I'm scared of dropping my pants to take a shit in case they try to build a Tim Horton's in there. If by some miracle I go for a day or so without seeing a Tim Horton's, I'm not going to panic and assume they went out of business. I don't understand why they need any more publicity.

Corporations! I do not understand you.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Ozymandias on 25 Feb 2008, 12:06
I know McDonalds does the Monopoly thing and when I was younger, at least, I would want to go there more often to try to complete my Monopoly board.

It's not really that you keep trying until you win, it's that you opt to go there over someplace else just in case.
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Post by: amok on 25 Feb 2008, 12:15
Exactly.

It's not that they need more publicity moreso that they want more money.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Yakob on 25 Feb 2008, 13:06
It's not really that you keep trying until you win, it's that you opt to go there over someplace else just in case.

Realisticly, there really isn't a "someplace else". Starbucks locations are scarce up here (in Nova Scotia at least), so Tim's is the only place to get your fast food chain coffee fix.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 25 Feb 2008, 13:12
Starbucks locations are scarce up here

You say this as if it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 25 Feb 2008, 13:13
Who knows, it could be a certain amount of pride/tradition driving Tim Horton's.  It's sort of like how entertaining Superbowl ads are more about media tradition these days than about actual marketing effectiveness.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 13:19
Starbucks locations are scarce up here

You say this as if it's a bad thing.

$1.75 > $3.50 For a coffee

Just Saying!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Bibliophile on 25 Feb 2008, 13:22
There's heaps of Starbucks here in B.C. I prefer Starbucks because I don't actually like coffee, but Starbucks has fancy drinks and chai tea. But I do go to Timmy's for doughnuts and last roll up the rim to win "season" anytime Jesse and I went for doughnuts I also got a hot smoothie... Simply in an attempt to win something. (No, I didn't win anything.)

Anyway, so that was maybe 4 or 5 drinks I would not have otherwise bought. Imagine the money from people who go every morning on the way to work? Or people who switch to Timmy's just during the roll up season? Some guy even patented a "labour-saving device" for the damned things - http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=26046197-4029-4e3d-9c71-37fa27067de0&k=60421 (http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=26046197-4029-4e3d-9c71-37fa27067de0&k=60421)
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 25 Feb 2008, 13:27
$1.75 > $3.50 For a coffee

Just Saying!

Well, as I'm not Canadian and don't drink coffee, I don't think it's a bad thing there are not so many Starbucks in the world. Actually, there are too many, as they've been having to close some Starbucks because they built too many shops. Silly Starbucks.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 13:29
In Houston (where I used to live) there was an intersection with a starbucks at all 4 corners
I was confused as to which one to go to!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: 0bsessions on 25 Feb 2008, 13:30
$1.75 > $3.50 For a coffee

Man, my High School math teacher would like to have a word with you.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Bibliophile on 25 Feb 2008, 13:40
In Houston (where I used to live) there was an intersection with a starbucks at all 4 corners
I was confused as to which one to go to!
Whichever one you don't have to cross a road for! I've seen corners with 3 starbucks. You just go to the closest, unless you are on the one corner with no Starbucks. Then you cross at whichever light changes first.

Then you get fat from all the laziness and whipped cream.

Science!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 25 Feb 2008, 13:54
Well, as I'm not Canadian and don't drink coffee, I don't think it's a bad thing there are not so many Starbucks in the world. Actually, there are too many, as they've been having to close some Starbucks because they built too many shops. Silly Starbucks.
Did you know that the closest two Starbucks are in Portland, OR? They are twelve feet apart. I read that yesterday in a book my fiancee has called Starbucked (http://www.amazon.com/Starbucked-Double-Caffeine-Commerce-Culture/dp/031601348X). Can you imagine seeing two freaking Starbucks stores twelve feet from each other?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: ruyi on 25 Feb 2008, 13:59
If you buy a coffee and you win, that's just great for you. If you didn't win, would you go back and buy another coffee until you did? I don't see it. What do Tim Horton's gain from this?

I guess it comes down to simple publicity but man, Tim Horton's no longer needs to advertise in Canuckistan. Let's face it. I spend a fair amount of time in the Great White North and I'm scared of dropping my pants to take a shit in case they try to build a Tim Horton's in there. If by some miracle I go for a day or so without seeing a Tim Horton's, I'm not going to panic and assume they went out of business. I don't understand why they need any more publicity.

Corporations! I do not understand you.

maybe it's become so big amongst the canadian public, like christmas or something, that their patrons would be very upset if they didn't continue?

anyways i am hungry. itt pictures of food from tim horton's please!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 25 Feb 2008, 14:00
Did you know that the closest two Starbucks are in Portland, OR? They are twelve feet apart. I read that yesterday in a book my fiancee has called Starbucked (http://www.amazon.com/Starbucked-Double-Caffeine-Commerce-Culture/dp/031601348X). Can you imagine seeing two freaking Starbucks stores twelve feet from each other?

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Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 25 Feb 2008, 14:01
maybe it's become so big amongst the canadian public, like christmas or something
Stop copying me!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 14:02
The worst I've seen was something like 5 stores apart in an airport.

Also, Joe, we don't care, Roo's cuter and therefore we do not care.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 25 Feb 2008, 14:03
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/jhocking/daw.jpg)
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Post by: tommydski on 25 Feb 2008, 14:05
I read that yesterday in a book my fiancee has called Starbucked (http://www.amazon.com/Starbucked-Double-Caffeine-Commerce-Culture/dp/031601348X).

I am reading this book right now by some coincidence. One of the Dumbrella girls I have a book exchange with sent it to me.

Very entertaining and enlightening book. You should definitely steal it afterwards.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2008, 14:06
Joe do you just have a file in Notepad that you save picture URLs on?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 25 Feb 2008, 14:07
My photobucket account is pretty much just for posting images on this forum. As such, it is easy for me to find images I've posted here before; it's all just in my photobucket album.

You should definitely steal itborrow and forget to return it
way ahead of you
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Johnny C on 25 Feb 2008, 16:41
From my understanding of it, Starbucks actually has some measure of a positive connection to fair trade and other equity issues, which is more than can be said for Tim's. I drink most of my coffee (and hold most of my coffee-related social outings) at a couple of locally-owned places, so I'm fuzzy on both, really. However, I do love Tim's donuts.

Incidentally, for those of you comparing Tim's to Dunkin Donuts, you have never eaten a proper donut and you are a base plebe.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Drill King on 25 Feb 2008, 16:43
Personally, I do not enjoy coffee, however the fact that I get to roll up practically all my friends rims is super fun.

A fellow from my town won a TV off a cup he picked up off the street.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 16:46
Drink hot chocolate and give yourself your own rim-job  :-)
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Post by: redglasscurls on 25 Feb 2008, 16:48
Skinny Jeans, I am going to figure how to jump through the internet just to jack the bike in your avatar.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Inlander on 25 Feb 2008, 17:41
Man, doesn't North America have any non-chain coffee shops? Here in Melbs if want a coffee I've got a dozen or so stand-alone cafes within a ten minute walk. If I want some crap-in-a-cup the nearest Starbucks is a fifteen-minute tram-ride away.

Incidentally, I read an interesting article a few weeks ago that said that Starbucks can actually boost the business of small cafes in the same neighbourhood. Apparently a number of cafes have found their business booming after a Starbucks opened up nearby. The thinking is that the Starbucks, through the power of its brand recognition, will pull people into the area who wouldn't normally go there. However a lot of those people are just after "coffee" rather than "Starbucks coffee", and they may even be after "good coffee", so a sizable number of them will wander into the smaller cafe and spend their money there. I wish I could remember what newspaper the article originally appeared in.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 25 Feb 2008, 17:49
I personally love local coffee shops alot more, it's just the "roll the rim to win" time where I'm excited to drink Timmies!
Something about printing a couple words under the rim of a paper cup fascinates me.

I'm way to easily amused
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 25 Feb 2008, 17:50
Yes, we have independent shops, but people are obsessed with chains. Personally, I don't get it - I don't get chains and I don't get fancy coffees. As for teas and whatnot, as I don't drink coffee, I prefer what the independent places offer, because the brands they use are better and they have a more interesting variety.

I also think the idea of going to Starbucks while White Castle is supposed to have one of the best coffees is kind of funny.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: ruyi on 25 Feb 2008, 18:47
it definitely varies from region to region. here in berkeley non-chain coffee shops are the norm, for example. perhaps it is true that north america generally has more chain places though. also: maybe more multi-national coffee-chains originate from north america? i am not sure.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: est on 25 Feb 2008, 18:49
The reason some people go to chain coffee stores is the same reason people go to chain fast-food joints.  Uniformity of product, or at least some attempt thereof.  If you don't know much about coffee and are in some place you aren't familiar with and just want a cup of coffee you will probably go to a place like Starbucks or (over here, at least) Gloria Jeans because of the illusion that ever coffee will be the same, no matter which store you buy it from.  In reality you could get two coffees from the same store on different days and they'll be markedly different due to them being made by different people, but whatever.

If you are a fan of good coffee or you like poking around in the smaller shops then you'll probably just take the chance with one and try to remember for next time or perhaps try to find out what brand of coffee they serve to see if it's a brand you like. But the majority of people who have a cafe coffee every once in a while and don't really pay much attention to the brands, etc probably couldn't be fucked to bother with that.  Going to a chain store is far more convenient for them.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: E. Spaceman on 25 Feb 2008, 20:28
Dang, who would have ever thought i  would write this.

Starbucks is not at all a bad company. They treat their employees much better than independent coffee shops, they are more environmentally friendly, their coffee is mostly fair trade, and the people taking your order are less likely to be dicks. Now, none of the above are things i really care about, and i don't even drink coffee anymore, but it is really quite silly to complain about starbucks. I mean, this computer was probably assembled by starving malay children.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: RallyMonkey on 25 Feb 2008, 20:53
All of the coffee shops around here have really crappy coffee. I mean extremely bad. I would go for a Starbucks over any of the local shops taste wise any day.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Feb 2008, 00:41
I went to a Starbucks yesterday (I didn't get anything, I just danced to the smooth jazz playing over the speakers while my girlfriend ordered a coffee and tried not to look mortified). It was a good experience, I annoyed a business woman in the queue behind us and I ended up getting a punch in the solar plexus for "being weird."

Incidentally I was later told that the coffee was terrible. I opined that if you want good coffee you should probably have it prepared by a barista (not prounounced barrister, it turns out) instead of some high school kid making minimum wage who can't use a cash register. I got punched again.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 26 Feb 2008, 00:58
(snip) this computer was probably assembled by starving malay children.

This, of course, nullifies every argument for no-sweatshop labor on the forum.

I will go buy more Chuck Taylors now.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Tom on 26 Feb 2008, 01:14
Crazy north Americans and their caffeinated piss-water even the coffee vending machine at my high school makes better coffee. I will be quiet now.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tommydski on 26 Feb 2008, 02:20
Starbucks is an unusually ethical corporation. They give their employees health insurance, stock and pensions. They actually provide a better deal for the bean growers than Fair Trade coffee in most circumstances. They are guilty of corporate hegemony but as Harry pointed out, Starbucks essentially created (or at least popularised) the business model that every coffee shop operates on today. They actually pioneered this industry with luxury beverages, comfortable soft furnishings and ready media at hand and subsequently, we expect it at every coffee shop. It wasn't the case that Starbucks saw an independent business doing the same thing and commercialised it to massive effect, they were genuinely there at the forefront when this industry reached financial maturity. They were instrumental in the foundation of the coffee house culture that has subsequently emerged which in turn allows other smaller businesses to thrive at the fringes.

Basically, you should read the book I referred to earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Feb 2008, 02:22
Hooray for Starbucks!

Now if only they made decent coffee, we could do a merry jig.

EDIT: This post was only half sarcastic, for the record.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tommydski on 26 Feb 2008, 02:28
Personally, I don't use Starbucks because they don't sell anything that appeals to me.

However, I think it's important to be mindful of relatively sound business practices amongst corporations or they have no incentive to maintain them.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: est on 26 Feb 2008, 02:53
Please note that I didn't say anything about their merit as a company!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: McTaggart on 26 Feb 2008, 02:59
Is there even a starbucks in Perth?

Also, this whole thread feels like an ad.
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Post by: Lalaladida on 26 Feb 2008, 03:01
I don't mind Starbucks coffee (I don't drink coffee out very often though) but their tea is awful. The earl grey is, at least, I don't think I've had any other kind.

And Tim Hortons is alright. I eat the donuts sometimes but I really don't like the roll up with rim thing. It's so wasteful, even more than the usual masses of garbage the shop produces. Everyone gets a paper cup with their drink, even if they stay in the store and drink it out of a mug or bring their own thermos, just so that they can roll up a tiny section on the top of the cup.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Feb 2008, 03:02
McTaggart, I'm pretty sure there's not! I've had it elsewhere.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Feb 2008, 05:55
Man, doesn't North America have any non-chain coffee shops?

I spend most of my free time in a cafe in my town. So yes.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: IronOxide on 26 Feb 2008, 07:46
I like non-chain places largely because I don't know any chains that make bubble tea. However, this means that when I go to one of our local non-chain coffee shops, I just end up getting the bubble tea instead of the other great beverages they make.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 26 Feb 2008, 08:03
Starbucks is not at all a bad company.

I don't think anyone was saying that they were a bad company. The ones I've been in have very nice employees, they make decent chai, and I really like their baked goods. But honestly, the only time I ever go there is when my mom gives me a gift card someone gave her because they thought she drinks coffee. (She hates coffee more than I do.) The only thing that really bothers me is how many stores there are. Having 10+ stores in a mile radius is ridiculous.

And Lalaladida is right - their tea (that isn't chai) is not good. Even honey or milk and sugar does not make it taste better. It always has a slight burnt taste and I know it's not because I'm letting the bag seep for too long, as I take it out once it's been in long enough.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Feb 2008, 08:11
Decent chai from a Starbucks? The only ones I've had were really watered down. 
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 26 Feb 2008, 08:15
The one on my campus makes them properly, but I wouldn't really know about anywhere else. Depends on who makes the mix, really. Once I had a chai from Panera that was a mix of water and mucus-like mix (it was an iced one), because the new guy made it and it was crap, but every other time I got it at the same store, it was fine.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Skinny Jeans on 26 Feb 2008, 08:15
Its true they do taste watered down, however I still found myself wandering into Starbucks every day my senior year of high school before I wandered into my welding class first period.

Side note: whoever thought to put welding first period was a moron, trusting teens with fire hot enough to melt metal at 7:30 am was a ridiculous idea
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Cernunnos on 26 Feb 2008, 08:32
Not to mention the whole high voltage deal. And the blinding light. And the fumes. I can see it now- some poor kid, blind, electrocuted, on fire, with heavy metal poisoning. Not a great way to start your day.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: ruyi on 26 Feb 2008, 08:35
I like non-chain places largely because I don't know any chains that make bubble tea. However, this means that when I go to one of our local non-chain coffee shops, I just end up getting the bubble tea instead of the other great beverages they make.

really? i don't know where you live, but there's tap ex and quickly off the top of my head. quickly is particularly ubiquitous, i thought.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: cupcakeonastick on 26 Feb 2008, 08:43
What superfantasticalmagical coffee are you all drinking that Starbucks coffee could be called "awful" or other such colorful adjectives?

I'm digging the hyperbole here, but c'mon.

I love the atmosphere of an independent shop and often the product sold is a superior one, but I also have no problem sitting in a cozy starbucks with my black bold blend coffee or my occasional ridiculous cafe mocha. I also happen to love that the Target I work in has a Starbucks 5 feet away from the service desk. Temptation, thy name is.

If one drink is superior to a similar competing drink, that fact is enough for the first to stand on. By severely bashing the similar product, which does it's job of BEING coffee and TASTING like coffee just fine, you lose a bit of credibility.

I get that we all want to save the independent types sitting on the fringes of Big Bad Business but turning into a melodramatic snob about it doesn't really help the case.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 26 Feb 2008, 08:53
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/1-coffee/
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 26 Feb 2008, 09:02
Did you know that the closest two Starbucks are in Portland, OR? They are twelve feet apart. I read that yesterday in a book my fiancee has called Starbucked (http://www.amazon.com/Starbucked-Double-Caffeine-Commerce-Culture/dp/031601348X). Can you imagine seeing two freaking Starbucks stores twelve feet from each other?

Uh...this? (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29030)

This (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28657) is also related.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Feb 2008, 09:20
I lied, I think. My friends work at Chapters and they're integrated with a Starbucks. I've had coffee there a couple of times.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: 0bsessions on 26 Feb 2008, 09:36
Uh...this? (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29030)

No way. If a coffee place were to open a separate location inside its own bathroom in Cambridge, it would most assuredly be a Dunkin' Donuts.

They recently put in a new Dunkin' Donuts at North Station in Boston. This would be useful if there weren't already a Dunkin' Donuts about thirty yards away. Unfortunately, there's a large support beam that blocks the view of it. I'd love to get a picture of the two juxtaposed.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 26 Feb 2008, 09:50
Back in Providence the biggest building is the Dunkin Donuts Center. (http://www.dunkindonutscenter.com/) I totally just assumed Dunkin Donuts was based there until, well, I found out it wasn't.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Feb 2008, 09:51
Man, I could really use a coffee right about now.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Storm Rider on 26 Feb 2008, 11:38
My problem with Starbucks is that their coffee is awful, not their business practices.
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Post by: pen on 26 Feb 2008, 11:39
I've never had their regular coffee.  If I go, I usually get their hot chocolate with peppermint.  Yum!  If I'm desparate for caffeine, I usually get a triple shot latte or something, and espresso is so gross no matter where you get it that I don't fault Starbucks for the shit taste.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 26 Feb 2008, 12:13
irjgsjiioekrgisjeuirhsjer something about coffee and tea

Roo I know I am always saying this, but remember, you live in Berkeley. If there's something you CAN'T find in Berkeley, I will give you a dollar.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lunchbox on 26 Feb 2008, 15:15
Starbucks espresso is okay but I find that no matter where I get it, it tastes a little burnt and kind of bland. Very easy drinking, 'consumer-friendly' coffee, but that is okay because that is how they market. I would rate it on a similar scale to McCafe coffee. Gloria Jeans' coffee is slightly better with a bit more flavour and nice bitter crema, but my favourite brands are ones that we sell locally, such as Grinders, or Peaberrys, which is what my shop uses.
Then I work and live in the heart of Newcastle's cafe district, where there are cafes wall-to-wall down many of the main streets. I am completely spoiled for choice.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tania on 26 Feb 2008, 18:36
back when i was a delinquent youth and still thought petty theft was cool, me and my friend stole the cup at the tim hortons by our high school that had all the winning rims in it and enjoyed free food and coffee for a month.

that was probably the only time i've ever "participated" in this. here at guelph they actually encourage students not to buy tim horton's coffee during roll up the rim season, to generate less garbage and all that. what with all the hippie students and all.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: ruyi on 26 Feb 2008, 18:46
irjgsjiioekrgisjeuirhsjer something about coffee and tea

Roo I know I am always saying this, but remember, you live in Berkeley. If there's something you CAN'T find in Berkeley, I will give you a dollar.

uh, remember, i have been to places besides berkeley!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Feb 2008, 20:13
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/1-coffee/

Oh shit dude, whoever wrote that just nailed us whiteys.

(and I call coffee robot juice because rstevens is a kewl dude)
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Slick on 26 Feb 2008, 21:51
Tania, I think Guelph is pretty rad. Unlike not too far away in Waterloo, where we have three (maybe four? who's counting...) Tim Horton's on campus. And our students just voted to kill our campus radio. And everyone's always walking really fast everywhere and not stopping to smell flowers or say hi.
I am just a little bit jealous of your university's students.


I don't go to Tim Horton's because their coffee is junk. Also, I work on-campus at a place with good coffee that I can get for free whenever. Also I hate the fact that they're omnipresent and homogenizing.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: bucky_2300 on 26 Feb 2008, 22:07
Tim Horton's coffee is junk. As a spoiled Vancouverfag that was weaned on various artsy Granville Island coffee shops, I reject your weak crap that seems to be favoured by natives of the prairie and atlantic provinces.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: mooface on 27 Feb 2008, 02:10
i win! (http://innovationzen.com/blog/2007/01/15/why-starbucks-is-not-present-in-italy/)

(my coffee is better than your coffee)

(i am proud of this even though i don't even like coffee)
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tania on 27 Feb 2008, 06:05
james, we have one starbucks on campus and the only reason i have ever given them my money is because of the fact that students got together and protested and threw things and MADE them offer fair trade coffee. we also have a wind-powered cafe. and voted to add an additional $10 on every student's tuition fees that will go towards retrofitting all the buildings on campus to make them more energy efficient.

i'm not trying to be smug here, guelph is really just sort of the best anything ever.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 27 Feb 2008, 08:30
uh, remember, i have been to places besides berkeley!

My challenge still stands!
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Slick on 27 Feb 2008, 16:30
Man, reading the engineering faculty newspaper makes me think that they are the problem. It's all 'conservative opinion' this and 'high tuition is a good thing but fees for things like the campus radio and public interest research group or student newspapers that aren't this one are not' that.
Can, like, the departments of pure and applied math just come hang out at Guelph with you guys? I would support a wind-powered cafe and stuff!

Also, bonus points for making sense of my second sentence there.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Elizzybeth on 27 Feb 2008, 18:26
i win! (http://innovationzen.com/blog/2007/01/15/why-starbucks-is-not-present-in-italy/)

Interesting!  I'd wondered about that.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 27 Feb 2008, 18:27
i'm not trying to be smug here, guelph is really just sort of the best anything ever.

Wow...

Do you guys have an art grad program?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: 0bsessions on 27 Feb 2008, 18:46
i'm not trying to be smug here, guelph is really just full of violent hippies.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: michaelicious on 27 Feb 2008, 18:51
i'm not trying to be smug here, guelph is really just sort of the best anything ever.

Wow...

Do you guys have an art grad program?

Sure do! At least according to this (http://www.uoguelph.ca/registrar/graduatestudies/files/grad_studies_viewbook.pdf).
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 28 Feb 2008, 13:51
Should warn everybody it's a PDF file. Those are hell on slow inter-nets like mine.

Somebody tell me it'll let me major in contemporary guitar.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 28 Feb 2008, 14:10
My internets are fine, so it downloaded ok. And hey, I'm glad to have this! I don't have to ask for one on the website and then be bombarded with mailers! (But as it's in Canada, I doubt that'd happen.)
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: jhocking on 28 Feb 2008, 14:38
Sorry to be totally off-topic but that reminds me: Firefox locks up for a minute whenever I load or (this is the alarming part) close a pdf file. Does anyone else experience that?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: ledhendrix on 28 Feb 2008, 14:41
Yeah, pdf files always make my firefox slow down like hell for a while. I hate pdf solely for this reason.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: thehollow on 28 Feb 2008, 15:59
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/636
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Lines on 28 Feb 2008, 17:55
Sorry to be totally off-topic but that reminds me: Firefox locks up for a minute whenever I load or (this is the alarming part) close a pdf file. Does anyone else experience that?

I think it's happened before when I've downloaded, but not when closing. And it doesn't happen often.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Tom on 29 Feb 2008, 00:28
I got a PDF download manager so that doesn't happen to me anymore.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Emily on 29 Feb 2008, 07:40
I don't drink coffee or hot chocolate and I don't like doughnuts, but I still managed to win a bagel once off a cup of tea, I think.

Anyhow, if you're going to get coffee in Western Canada, I'll have to plug my former employer (http://www.saltspringcoffee.com/). Congrats for having generally decent management, most of the time. Coffeedrinkers I know are fans of their beans, so...yay?
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Tom on 29 Feb 2008, 13:48
The sits name gave me a vague impression that their coffee/drinks are salty rather than sweet or bitter
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Elizzybeth on 29 Feb 2008, 17:41
Anyhow, if you're going to get coffee in Western Canada, I'll have to plug my former employer (http://www.saltspringcoffee.com/). Congrats for having generally decent management, most of the time. Coffeedrinkers I know are fans of their beans, so...yay?

Huh! My good friend's family owns a cabin up on Salt Spring Island, and I spent a spring break up there with her a few years ago.  It's so tiny, though, I didn't know anyone had ever heard of it.  Gorgeous place, and, if it's as good as you say, at some point when I'm no longer unemployed, I'll buy a pound or two of the beans online.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: frunK on 01 Mar 2008, 04:44
I don't see why the two are being compared frankly.

Starbucks is a cafe(Like Coffee of Doom), it has fancy little faggy drinks like a Double Lowfat Soy Caramel Mint Steamed Matcha Latte or simular crap that makes me want to set a live human infant on fire. Not only that but they offer multiple different kinds of REAL coffee, like say French Roast or Kenya AA, however because Starbucks is retarded and does not train it's employees to pour out coffee that has been on the burner too long, rather to sell it because they think we're too stupid to tell the difference thus Kenya AA eventually will taste like French Roast and French Roast will taste like Horse Scrotum with extra AIDS.

Now Timmy's is different, Timmy's is doughnut shop coffee. There's one kind, nothing fancy, cream, sugar or black. And you know what? That one kind is good, nothing to change your pants over, it ain't Jamaican Blue Mountain made by a sexy naked super model coffee angel while Yngvie Malmsteen plays a motherfucking coffee solo of devine asskick BUT it's still a good blend and goes good with a maple doughnut.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tommydski on 01 Mar 2008, 07:13
fancy little faggy drinks

 :|
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: tania on 01 Mar 2008, 09:24
how can you say the two can't be compared when clearly you prefer one more than the other? sometimes people want coffee and sometimes they want fancy drinks that taste nice. there are places that serve both. the two aren't necessarily at war with each other.

i don't really buy coffee from either tim horton's or starbucks because i have concerns regarding starbucks' business practices and tim horton's frankly makes terrible coffee. still, i'd like to think ordering a soy mocha latte once in a while at a coffee shop that makes good coffee doesn't make me a pretentious or terrible person. maybe it tastes good. maybe i really enjoy soy milk. sometimes that is all there is to it.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: frunK on 01 Mar 2008, 10:25
fancy little faggy drinks

 :|

address all complaints to my boyfriend

how can you say the two can't be compared when clearly you prefer one more than the other? sometimes people want coffee and sometimes they want fancy drinks that taste nice. there are places that serve both. the two aren't necessarily at war with each other.

i don't really buy coffee from either tim horton's or starbucks because i have concerns regarding starbucks' business practices and tim horton's frankly makes terrible coffee. still, i'd like to think ordering a soy mocha latte once in a while at a coffee shop that makes good coffee doesn't make me a pretentious or terrible person. maybe it tastes good. maybe i really enjoy soy milk. sometimes that is all there is to it.

Your right I do prefer one over the other, kind of like how stubbing my toe and eating a chocolate bar can't be compared however I do prefer one over the other.
It's not the fancy assed drinks that piss me off about starbucks though, and it's not the fact the clientelle is pretentious(that would make me a hypocrite, and it's bad enough I'm a pretentious jackass, I don't want to be a pretentious hypocritical jackass) it's the fact they might as well be McDonalds for the quality of their coffee. I much prefer going to a sit in fancy little coffee joint to going to Timmy's. If given the choice I would go to The Fyxx, a really awesome local chain in Winnipeg, my boyfriend says theres one or two in Vancouver as well. Point is they can actually make coffee that doesn't taste like goat ass. Drink all the damn soy milk you want, I don't care just don't do it at Starbucks.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Mar 2008, 11:31
I would plug my old employer here but since very few of the people here live in California, which is where over 90% of the stores in that chain are, it would probably be moot.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2008, 12:08
Tell me anyway.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Mar 2008, 12:12
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peet's_Coffee_&_Tea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peet's_Coffee_&_Tea)

As a worker, the management was occasionally infuriating, but the coffee (drip and bar drinks) is so much better and the beans are even more so.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2008, 12:16
Dude Peet's is fuckin' great. My stepbrother works at the one in downtown Livermore.

He gets free coffee beans every week.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: celticgeek on 01 Mar 2008, 13:56
Interesting.  They sell Peet's coffees in the grocery store where we shop.  I may have to try some of it.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Storm Rider on 01 Mar 2008, 15:01
I have to say that the stuff you'll pick up in the grocery store won't be nearly as fresh as beans from an actual store, but they do roast-to-order on their website, and I believe they ship anywhere in the continental US. It'll be a bit more expensive, of course, but I would suggest trying that instead unless price is a big deal to you.

But yeah, I spent 3 years in high school working there, and had a good time despite occasional frustrations with management. The thing about working as a barista is that although you get the shitty customer moments that happen in any retail job, if you're there for long enough and good at your job the regular customers start to appreciate you, especially if you can remember their names and orders. Some of them would even hand out Christmas presents to the staff.
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: celticgeek on 01 Mar 2008, 15:14
Yes, I know.  There was a little coffee shop on-campus when I was taking courses, and I could be eighth or ninth in line, and when I got to the front of the line, my order would be ready.  Of course, I always got the same thing, AND I tipped well.  They were a pretty cool bunch there, though.  (Not a Peet's, by the way.)
Title: Re: ATTN CANADIANS!
Post by: Patrick on 02 Mar 2008, 11:15
I always liked it when my regulars came in to see me at work. I always knew what their usual orders were, and so while I was entering it into the register we would give each other a hard time and shoot the breeze and it made the job all kinds of good fun. I got so many "Man it's gonna suck when you have to leave" from them.

I had this one girl who came in a lot when I worked the counter. She always ordered the same thing, a vanilla iced coffee. I eventually got permanently assigned to drive-thru, and she'd still come in through counter once in a while (and when I saw her I'd immediately start work on it), but she even went so far as to enlist the help of a mutual friend just so she could say "Sup" at me. It was really sweet and I honestly can't wait to get back to work up there.

tl;dr regular customers are probably the thing that made me the happiest at work.