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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: talon on 12 Mar 2008, 18:57
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so i just watched the teaser... looks pretty cool, looks better than the first one (although i think i'm the only one who didn't mind the 2003 rendition) it's good to have an action director at the helm. Don't get me wrong, i like Ang Lee and he does drama verry well, but i was never that encouraged with him behind the Hulk story and franchise.
But i like anything to do with superheroes or comics, even the crappy translations. The nerd in me loves em' automatically and then starts to bitch about how they messed up (all the while still secretly liking it).
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Don't get me wrong, i like Ang Lee and he does drama verry well, but i was never that encouraged with him behind the Hulk story and franchise.
Agreed. I pay my ten bucks to see Hulk tear shit up, not to reminisce about his childhood.
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I quite liked the Ang Lee rendition but it's not like I didn't notice the glaring flaws. I even totally hate the Hulk as a superhero (for fuck's sake his power is throwing a tantrum!) but I still enjoyed the film. That said I am all about Tim Roth playing the Abomination.
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How the fuck did this thread get created and then responded to without anyone thinking to, y'know, link to the trailer?
Christ, people. (http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1583143&vid=215625)
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Based on the trailer it looks like the movie is just one long build-up to exactly one fight scene.
I would hope that's not accurate... but that's what it looks like.
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Coming from a strictly 'action-movie director' I wouldn't be surprised if this was true.
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The first movie was pretty good, but it wasn't a comic book movie. It was an angsty "I like you but I'm emotionally distant" movie. With a superhero in it.
I'll wait for this to show up on TBS to watch it.
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I know I will see this, seeing as how I have seen damn near every marvel movie to date (yes, even the Captain America one). One thing I don't like is the way the Abomination looks, I kind of like his freaky lizard look in the comic.
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you don't know where I can find a copy of the Captain movie do you - I need to see a really bad movie soon or lose it
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I saw this trailer last night and my mouth just dropped open...
WHY are they making another Hulk movie, especially since they just made one back in '03 that I don't think many people even liked?!
I will say this: I like their choice for Bruce Banner...
As for the rest of it: I won't pay to see it. It's ridiculous. I just don't get it. (That and I'm not a big Hulk fan anyway...)
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First off I'm gonna say I actually enjoyed the first Hulk movie, it's not without its failings but overall I thought it was pretty good.
What I find strange about this new movie is that it is not a sequel but a reboot.
Rebooting the Bond series is fine, there were 20 Bond movies and the formula was creaking and just getting more ridiculous with each instalment and logically the only way for the series to progress was to start afresh. Similarly with Batman Begins, the previous Batman movies had descended into farce, plus a significant enough amount of time had passed between Batman and Robin (1997) and Batman Begins (2005) to justify starting the whole thing over from scratch.
The original Hulk movie was only 4/5 years ago and wasn't, in my opinion, such a diaster that rebooting was the only option; they could have done it as a sequel and still taken it in different directions to the first.
That all said, I probably will go see this, I like Eward Norton a lot and was particularly interested to hear he actually wrote the screenplay!
Edit: Just watched the trailer, let’s just say it’s not matching my enthusiasm for Iron Man. The Hulk v Abomination sequence did nothing for me.
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Iron Man also proposes action done in stylish and fast paced ways. HULK SMASH is about as interesting as this one's going to get.
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Yeah, although Robert Downey Jnr will be in The Incredible Hulk, so I might watch it to see how the cross over is done!
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I've heard rumours of an Avengers movie being produced for 2011, which in conjunction with Captain America in 09, could lead up to a very large series of character setup films to cover the backstory of the Avengers.
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That's long past the rumor stage. It's been listed as under development since 2006. Though this is not a tangible definite, it's past the rumor stage and into the realm of an actual planned development. It's set to follow impending film adaptations of Thor, Captain America and Ant-Man and will likely team the five of them (Including Iron Man and Hulk) together which, with the addition of the Wasp, would make it almost the founding team of Avengers (Cap wasn't actually a founder, he joined soon after Hulk left).
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I really did not enjoy the first Hulk movie (I know one of millions to say that, just figured I'd point out the obvious). I felt they tried to re-invent the character way too much. Origin stories are great but seriously get to the point. They focused on Bruce Banner not as a man torn between two psyches but as an unhappy guy with a few stressful days. The action wasn't that great (save for the "bite the head off a missile and spit at them" scene.) and to be honest the CGI didn't impact the way I thought it should. But when I saw the trailer for the second movie, I felt...invigorated. As if they took the comic panels I have loved since I was a child and displayed them for all the world to see. I sincerely hope the movie is as good as I'm expecting it to be, or I will link to this post everyday to remind myself of the naive trust I still place on Hollywood despite the many horrors I've seen.
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There would be no reason to see this if not for the fact that Edward Norton took what was supposedly a very crappy script, and personally rewrote it before he would attach himself as Bruce Banner. If Edward Norton believes in it, then I believe in it.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/The_Incredible_Hulk/large/hr_The_Incredible_Hulk_poster.jpg
new poster looks cool... nice throwback to the old tv series if you ask me
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It seems like Marvel has decided to really step up their production standards, after the bad reviews Spider-Man 3 and Fantastic Four 2 got. This movie and Iron Man both look great to me, and things, I believe, will just continue to get better from there. You know if these do well they'll take extra pains to make sure both Thor and Captain America are great, otherwise it will be the biggest letdown ever. Plus, Ant Man! I see a new golden age of superhero movies ahead of us, guys.
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What do you mean by production standards? Because $piderman-3, FF4-2, and, hell, even the original Hulk movie all had plenty big budgets.
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I'll go see this. One, because I never actually took the time to see the 2003 version, and 2, because I like Edward Norton and Tim Roth. And was that William Hurt I saw?
But anyway, I wouldn't have posted in this thread to say that. No, its because after the Hulk trailer I see this little picture of Cory Feldman's face. Really?! After 20 years they're making a Lost Boys 2? I wouldn't have believed it, but that trailer looks far too legitimate to be a hoax. I especially liked the revamp of the song from the first one in it as an extra tease, Cry Little Sister. But this movie seems all wrong, it doesn't look like its going to be as tongue-in cheek and light hearted as the first one. What, is Feldman producing it himself or something?
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Personally as soon as I heard that 1. Edward Norton was in it. and 2. It had NOTHING to do with the absolutely horrendous Hulk film that came out a couple years ago, I was completely stoked. Edward Norton is the perfect person to be in this film, he can totally do Bruce Banner in ways that will make Eric Bana look like a complete idiot. I've seen the trailer a couple times, and as much as I feel they revealed too much, I'm still really stoked for this to come out.
And on the superhero movies. Superhero movies have ALWAYS been hit/miss. I personally view the Spiderman trilogy to be the worst thing to ever happen to spiderman. It became a soap-opera about Peter Parker. When he's Spiderman he's supposed to be a gigantic smartass, always pissing off and insulting the badguys. The most we got in that respect was when he wrestled Bonesaw in the first movie "Nice costume, did your boyfriend make it?" But even before the new superhero movies there were 2 great Batman movies and 2 terrible ones. There was also a Captain America movie that no one remembers anymore....and it was terrible.
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What do you mean by production standards? Because $piderman-3, FF4-2, and, hell, even the original Hulk movie all had plenty big budgets.
I guess I'm mainly thinking of the word standards and not so much production. Like, making it good, not just flashy. Poor wording on my part.
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So, apparently there was a new trailer played at NYCC. Video hasn't been released yet, but Newsarama (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154289) has a summary:
Spoilers ahead,
We see General Ross with what appears to be a black eye (or he is rip-roaring drunk) holding up a bar with a drink in his hand. We cut to the bar door opening, and like an old-school western we see a man in silhouette enter the bar and we hear Robert Downey, Jr.’s voice. Due to the screams in the audience what he says is barely audible, but then he walks up to Ross, we see Downey’s face. Ross compliments him as “always having the nicest suits.” Then Downey says to Ross: “I hear you have an unusual problem?”
“You should talk,” Ross retorts.
“You should listen,” says Downey.
Cut to black. Cue audience pandemonium.
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Edit:Whoops
I think what was left of my hesitation for going to see this movie left right there.
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I will see anything with Edward Norton in it.
My pants may or may not be off at the end of the movie. Inappropriate.
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Goddamn that sounds awesome.
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I miss Lou
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He was at Wizard World Texas this last year, over in the section with people who you recognize, but not well enough to go say anything to them and you feel bad all weekend long because they sit there reading a book and never sign any autographs.
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I hear he was at ComicCon in New York this past weekend, and he was a total asshole. I wouldn't expect anything less.
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I can't say whether he's an asshole or not. I kind of felt bad for the guy, because no one cared that he was even there. The guy in the booth next to him was Boomer from the original Battlestar Galactica and next to him was Lois Lane from the old Superman show (the one with George Reeves) and I'm pretty sure they signed less than 20 autographs between the three of them all weekend.
It doesn't help that there was a pornstar just a few booths down. So many geeks hanging out there...
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/theincrediblehulk/
new trailer + lots o' action = holycrap awesome
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i cannot fucking wait for this movie.
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That movie was absolutely fucking incredible (No pun intended, that is simply how best to describe it).
It had everything a Hulk movie should have and the pacing was in line with Iron Man. It required no real prior knowledge going in, yet had tons (Assloads, really) of fan service for those watching for it, much like Iron Man. It had all out, balls to the walls action.
It was much more than I expected, and I expected it to be, at least, decent.
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I am now staying out of this thread until I've seen it. I don't want no spoilers.
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I was starting to get amped on it and then I saw a commercial that said: (you know the voice)
This summer..... you'll like it when he's angry
and now i'm really hoping it's ok.
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Whoa. How did you already see it? It shouldn't come out until Friday.
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So fucking close, can't wait to see it
One thing that I find awesome about the movie is that the Abomination is not Rick Jones, and does not refer to himself as the A-bomb. Then again, not having seen the movie yet, I could be wrong.
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i'll be there at the midnight showing come thursday night... man i can't wait, especially after not watching any tv spots to leave some surprise come the opening showing. it was difficult not keeping up with the buzz. damn marketing
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Whoa. How did you already see it? It shouldn't come out until Friday.
Rachel snared a pass for two to an advanced screening at Boston Commons on Monday. Unfortunately for her, she ended up not being able to make it. Living in the city has its advantages.
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I only want to see this for the Iron Man / Robert Downey Jr. cameo.
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You should probably shrink the font on that for spoilers' sake. That's a pretty big spoiler to some people.
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Hardly a spoiler. Just skim the cast list on imdb.
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Who does that? Seriously? I'm just asking you to show a slight bit of courtesy to those who've not heard of that scene.
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Way to go asshole, the movie has been ruined for me. (heard about it in the comic shop)
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You should probably shrink the font on that for spoilers' sake. That's a pretty big spoiler to some people.
RDJ is in the latest Incredible Hulk TV ad (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/06/new-hulk-tv-spo.html). Hardly a spoiler.
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I am aware of this, but not everyone here watches TV. I know at least one forumite who doesn't watch TV and isn't aware of that scene to my knowledge. I don't see why it's such a big deal to be a little cautious about spoilers for a movie that's not even out in wide release yet. Shit, I've already seen it, I'm a notorious douche and I still think it's the courteous thing to do.
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My point was that it's not a "spoiler" if Universal Pictures is using the cameo as part of the film's marketing. Just 'cause a particular person hasn't seen the ad doesn't make it a secret. Universal wants people to know that RDJ is in the film.
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"A published piece of information that divulges a surprise, such as a plot twist in a movie."
Said moment is most definitely a spoiler, but hey, what do I know? Fuck common courtesy, it takes too long to modify a post. I am clearly the douche here.
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I'll just say that I'm at a loss to reconcile how Stark's cameo can be both 1) a surprise and 2) intentionally emphasized the film's promotional materials.
In that ad, Stark is shown and named before Edward Norton/the Hulk gets his first appearance. Universal is not only revealing Downey's cameo, it's deliberately using Downey's cameo to bank on Iron Man's success.
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That is one ad out of about fifteen ads floating about and it is literally the last scene of the movie. I haven't even seen it and I watch more TV than a lot of others here.
But hey, like I said, apparently it's too much to ask for people to be the slightest bit discretionary. Seriously, when did it happen that I started being the most considerate person in a thread?
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I haven't seen the ad. I only know RDJR is in the movie because of this thread. Thanks a lot, jerks. Next you'll tell me there's more cap'N muraka references/cameos.
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I haven't even seen it and I watch more TV than a lot of others here.
I'll say it again:
Just 'cause a particular person hasn't seen the ad doesn't make it a secret.
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Fuck it. I give up on trying to reason with this thread. I'm just becoming frustrated.
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I haven't seen the ad. I only know RDJR is in the movie because of this thread. Thanks a lot, jerks. Next you'll tell me there's more cap'N muraka references/cameos.
Darryl, I hate to break it to you, but Edward Norton is not actually the Hulk.
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Stark's appearance is as surprising as the Hulk's girlfriend, or the military, or the frickin' Abomination. Jeez, Obsessions, unbunch your panties and grow up.
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SLIGHT SPOILERS
Just saw it in the midnight showing tonight, and I gotta say, I didn't like it quite as much as Iron Man. Of course, my brother and his friend thought it was way better.
there are in fact Cap'n murka references.. they briefly talk about Super Soldier taking place in WWII
Don't get me wrong, it was an extremely good movie, Hulk by nature just has a little less style than Stark, I can hardly fault him for that.
I'll probably have more thoughts on it tomorrow.
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just got back as well and i'll say it... it's awesome!!!
i'll agree that iron man was better but that's not what the thread is, it's all about HULK SMASH !!!.
enough small references for the inner nerd to freak out and way bigger and grittier action than ang lees. kicks the 2003 rendition in the pants. only a few more other films and we'll have an avengers flick, god willing no one screws that up.
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Stark's appearance is as surprising as the Hulk's girlfriend, or the military, or the frickin' Abomination. Jeez, Obsessions, unbunch your panties and grow up.
Suck the next eight dicks you see, junior.
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Just saw it, not as good as Iron Man but some what better then the other Hulk movie. At least this time they actually had a villain that could fight the Hulk one-on-one instead of that Absorbing Man shit.
So, Leader next movie?
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I thought the end was clever.
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I thought it was great. Hulk SMASH!
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Meh. It had a brisk pace, which was nice, but I'd rather see the director / Norton's cut of the movie. This version is pretty lacking in character development apart from Blonsky. I quite liked Tim Roth.
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The Hulk wasn't incredible, but rather entertaining.
Throw down between the Hulk and the Abomination was pretty good and about as close to a comic book fight as I've ever seen.
Not as good as the Captain Marvel/Superman brawl from JLU, but still pretty good.
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Did you just make a cheesey film-critic esque pun?
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*OKIAMGOINGTOTALKABOUTTHEMOVIENOWOMGDONTREADTHISIFYOUHAVENTSEENIT*
SO here's my question to those who have seen it:
Given the content of the ending of the movie... I don't like the fact that Tony Stark went to go see General Ross, I really don't. When I first heard his voice and saw him walk in, I thought, "It's gotta be Stark with an idea about Hulkbuster Armor," which would make sense and is also what the alternate easter egg (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=154289) points to. But instead when he starts talking about putting a team together - It's obvious that he's talking about 'creating" Captain America. I HATE the idea that someone like Colonel Ross could have anything to do with the creation of Captain America... but hey, that's what they've set up.
I also thought it was interesting that they put the "Weapons Plus" label on the canister that the Super-Soldier serum was in, that storyline being so relatively new. Apparently it is considered canon now? Someone let me know if I'm wrong, I haven't gotten to read any of the "Weapons Plus" comics. So I guess in the 'Captain America' movie, they're going to have to somehow blow up that military compound and all the serum and research contained within, since there's only supposed to be one true Super Soldier (i.e. Cap), right?
Also. they really should have made the Stark/Ross thing a true easter egg, not make it part of the movie itself. It just smacks of trying WAY too hard.
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Man, you know what the only thing more annoying than nitpicky comic fans? People who nitpick comic movies that don't actually read the comics. You seem to have missed the point of a lot of stuff:
For one, movies don't follow the standard comic book continuity, nor will they ever. That's a ridiculous demand. Just because things happened such and such way in the comics, doesn't mean it has to happen that way in the movie.
Secondly, no, there isn't only "one true super soldier." That's the point of the Weapon Plus idea. In each and every continuity, there were multiple super soldiers, but Cap was first success(Wolverine was a part of the same program). From there, the Weapon Plus program was a program intending to recreate the success of the original Super Soldier serum. Isiah Bradley, Wolverine and, to an extent, Patriot are all results of the Weapon Plus program. Their being a variation of the Super Soldier formula in Ross' posession has absolutely zero bearing on Captain America's past in the movie universe.
In point of fact, it's been well established by the director that Captain America is intended to follow the same idea of being created in WW II and then frozen. They filmed a scene where Banner actually journeys to the arctic in an effort to kill himself and, while there, he encounters what appears to be a human body frozen in the ice. This scene was cut as they felt it was too dark. Leterrier says they plan to release the scene on the internet soon and it will make it into the DVD in all likelihood.
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Yeah, the fact that the weapon program was created in WWII and then mostly mothballed until the Hulk was created strongly implied that Captain America was created in WWII, rather than by Ross.
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Ok, sheesh, sorry, didn't mean to get your panties up in a bunch :-P
Clearly I do not obsess about comics the way you do (and clearly that makes me SO inferior to your awesomeness), and apparently they were not talking about "creating" Captain America - my bad. But I am still impressed that you pretty much completely missed the point of my post.
First of all, I wasn't asking that the comic continuity be completely represented OMGITSJUSTLIKETHACOMIX in the movie. At what point did I "demand" that? I'd never expect that, and there's never been a comic book movie where's that's happened. The mention about Weapons Plus was to say that I would be surprised if something so relatively new were to be considered canon - the fact that it was in the movie was actually rather impressive to me, showed they did their homework. Also, please note that I asked if it was canon, implying that I did not know. That doesn't mean that I expected everything in the movie to be straight from the comic! Good Lord man, you must have some Hulk-sized legs to jump to a conclusion like that. Also, I personally didn't consider Wolverine a "Super Soldier" - yes, i know he went through the same program, but he was a mutant, it's not like they gave him the serum or anything.
And the whole point about "the director already established etc etc etc." - how, exactly, would I have known that from watching the movie? I was simply talking about my impressions from seeing the movie And from seeing the movie, that was the conclusion I drew from Stark propositioning Colonel Ross.
On that topic - why did Stark proposition Colonel Ross? If not to create Cap, then something else to do with the Super-Soldier serum? I mean, Stark's gotta have a million contacts in the military - why go talk to Ross? I'd love to hear some other opinions on the matter, I'm curious to hear what some rational people have to say.
WTF happened to this thread to make it so damned mean-spirited? Sheesh.
ANYWAYS, overall I really liked the movie. Not as amazing as Iron Man, but I feel like there was a slightly lesser script to work with. The CGI worked, I loved the scene in the waterfall - it really showed Hulk's personality well. Norton did a great job, as did William Hurt. I feel like the Hulk is too complex of a character to be summed up in one film, but I feel like they did a really good job with this one! :-)
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WTF happened to this thread to make it so damned mean-spirited? Sheesh.
I don't know, but I do know Jon has been the target of pantybunching references twice in this thread and hasn't been a big enough asshole to warrant it.
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\On that topic - why did Stark proposition Colonel Ross? If not to create Cap, then something else to do with the Super-Soldier serum? I mean, Stark's gotta have a million contacts in the military - why go talk to Ross? I'd love to hear some other opinions on the matter, I'm curious to hear what some rational people have to say.
It's about the Avengers. Like how at the end of Iron Man, Nick Fury tells Tony Stark about it. Stark is passing the word along to Colonel Ross.
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Yes, I agree that it was regarding the Avengers - but why pass the word to Colonel Ross? He just seems like a totally untrustworthy dude. And I'm just wondering what Colonel Ross might have to contribute to the project.
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Ross has a strong connection to Bruce Banner/The Hulk. If you can't contact Banner directly, who else are you gonna go to? Note that my only knowledge of the Hulk is from the 90s animated series and the 2003 movie.
Special person, you have made some astounding leaps in logic in this thread. Simply astounding. It might be an idea for you to slow down and consider your post a little longer. You tried to belittle a person in this thread who not only makes regular positive contributions to the forum, but is posting in a manner that is far more intelligent and accessible than your own. I can't speak for everybody, but I think this made you look like a gigantic asshole, which I'm sure you're not. People are going to think you're a bit of a tit if their only encounters of you are aching to the encounters present on this page.
WTF happened to this thread to make it so damned mean-spirited? Sheesh.
What happened was that both you and rynne didn't stop to think and ended up getting your panties in a bunch. You both acted with hostility when somebody responded to your posts in a reasonable manner.
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To be fair, Darryl, I am pretty sure that that orange text was added by a mod, not no one special. At least, in my experience, that little orange italic text generally means mod activity.
And Jordan, I seriously need to check with a physician. I think I might have some kind of asshole disease. Not like anal prolapse or anything, just a condition whereas people who don't know me seem to respond with rampant hostility to me when I'm actually TRYING to be reasonable for once.
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What happened was that both you and rynne didn't stop to think and ended up getting your panties in a bunch. You both acted with hostility when somebody responded to your posts in a reasonable manner.
Look, I don't mean to cause trouble. I know how forums work, and that the regs will always get more leeway over non-regs when arguments break out. They're your friends, and everyone treats friends better than strangers. Since I'm not a part of the core society, I've got a much worse vantage point on figuring out what's said in jest and what's said in seriousness. Heck, I know that I'm probably a target precisely because you don't know me. I'll probably get more bad responses by replying than it's worth, and I'm an idiot for doing so.
That all being said, I don't think I was the one to act hostilely first. From my point of view, the first character judgment between myself and 0bsessions was his: he claimed that I was discourteous because I was talking about a "spoiler," though, in my mind, I'd only posted publicly-available facts. I responded to a perceived unwarrented insult (ironically providing ample justification for it after the fact). In cooler-headed hindsight, I should've ignored the whole thing. As for panties-in-a-bunch, I think both of us were equally ridiculous in our subsequent posts.
So, I apologize for my part in the whole fiasco. Also, for this thread derail. That Hulk, he's pretty green in this film, huh?
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He is actually less green than he was in the previous film! go figure.
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I think they made him more of a forest green, instead of the lime green that Ang Lee had. I actually like the darker colour better.
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No, I added the orange, italicized text. That was me. It wasn't meant to be an accusation, just surprise at how this thread was getting out of hand.
I have to agree that Obsessions didn't deserve the attacks from the first guy, as he was simply trying to keep some surprise for people. I got no problem with that.
I have absolutely no idea how I'm being labeled as overreacting tho - I was just putting up some opinions on the movie, and then got a bigger reaction than I deserved, and I didn't know where it came from.
Man, you know what the only thing more annoying than nitpicky comic fans? People who nitpick comic movies that don't actually read the comics.
That just seemed unnecessarily mean. Some latent frustration from previous posts maybe, I don't know. it's not like I was all "omg i can't believe betty and doc sampson are dating omg". I just said that I don't like Ross (he's a dick), and it sucks that he's at all involved with something so cool like the Avengers. I wasn't complaining that that wasn't the way in went in the comics, or anything like that.
For one, movies don't follow the standard comic book continuity, nor will they ever. That's a ridiculous demand. Just because things happened such and such way in the comics, doesn't mean it has to happen that way in the movie.
I never even mentioned comic vs. movie continuity. Not once. I straight up said I hadn't read the Weapon Plus comics, and I was asking questions about it, not nitpicking or... ugh. whatever.
Sheesh, I just wanted to post about the movie, and now i get into a fight on the internet, which is clearly the most ideal use of time and brainspace for everyone involved.
No, I'm not a jerk, but I am indeed frustrated.
*sigh* whatever, I wash my hands of this thread. I'm done.
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You just had to explain yourself, because you didn't communicate very well at all with your first post. If what you had just said, in those exact words, was what you had said in your initial post here, Jon wouldn't have 'overreacted' like he did. Try reading his post in a light-hearted tone and not an accusatory one. That's the trick to not getting angry at people on the internet.
I just got back from watching the movie. People are telling me it's "almost as good as Iron Man" and "easily on par with Iron Man". Well, these people are all wrong. It was slightly better than Iron Man. I've never seen a comic book movie handled this well before. Everybody was fantastic, I even found myself liking Liv Tyler.
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Everyone should pretend (http://xkcd.com/438/) that you are talking to someone face to face, instead of over the internet.
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Basically the main benefit this film had was making me think "Oh, okay, well I guess I should go see Iron Man or something now." I was really excited about Iron Man back when it came out, but then I didn't rally have any time and such, and sort of forgot about it a little. The Incredible Hulk was pretty enjoyable, and it did not feel like a waste of money. Uhh...yeah. I had fun. Other than that, I don't suppose it was a terribly remarkable film. But it tweren't bad, by no means.
It made me really curious about trying to go back and read some Hulk comics though. The last time I did that was like, years ago and all I remember is that Bruce Banner woke up in some hospital and a "tornado" somehow had conveniently saved him from awful circumstances, oh and it killed like dozens of people. And then like a couple scenes later in the same comic Brucey is sitting on the edge of a cliff and tries to blow his own brains out, but of course it if not physically possible to do so, at least not with the puny revolver he used. That doesn't sound familiar to anybody, does it? I think it was in an Ultimate series or something. Would anybody know enough to recommend a good place to start with Hulk? Any good one-offs that may exist?
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I just got back from watching the movie. People are telling me it's "almost as good as Iron Man" and "easily on par with Iron Man". Well, these people are all wrong.
What? How dare you, Darryl! This movie was great, it...
It was slightly better than Iron Man. I've never seen a comic book movie handled this well before. Everybody was fantastic, I even found myself liking Liv Tyler.
Oh, I see. It was a fakeout. I get it.
Abyway, De_El, I am pretty sure you're referring to the miniseries 'Banner (http://www.amazon.com/Startling-Stories-Banner-Brian-Azzarello/dp/078510853X/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213880883&sr=1-1)' by Brian Azzarello. It was a mini from back in like 2002. I only ever read the first issue, though, so I can't really judge it.
Anyways, good places to read some good Hulk. Unfortunately, my Hulk reading was never all that extensive, but I can give a few examples of some great stories I have read:
Hulk: Gray (http://www.amazon.com/Hulk-Gray-Jeph-Loeb/dp/0785113460/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213881055&sr=1-2) by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale. It's a continuity lite early story of the Hulk. It's by the same team that did Batman: The Long Halloween (Which is allegedly one of the primary influences on the new Dark Knight flick) and it makes for a good, fun read. It's a bit pricey on Amazon (You shouldn't have to pay more than $15-$20 for it).
There's also Future Imperfect (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Future-Imperfect-Marvels/dp/0785100296/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213881522&sr=1-2) by Peter David. This one involves the Hulk (At this point, essentially Banner's intellect combined with Hulk's strength) being flung into a post Apocalyptic future to take down a tyrant called the Maestro.
A very recent, but very excellent and popular Hulk story is Planet Hulk (http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Hulk-Planet-Greg-Pak/dp/0785120122/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213881184&sr=1-1) by Greg Pak, one of the best new writer's Marvel has. Don't worry about the sold out "Prelude to Planet Hulk. While not a bad story, all you need to know is that a group of Marvel's most well known leaders decides Hulk is too dangerous and they trick him into a long distance shuttle that throws him off into space, with the intention of leaving him on a beautiful, green planet with no indigenous lifeforms. As is customary, though, something's gotta go wrong. This is from an era where Hulk is less a mumbling savage and has some semblence of intellect.
Planet Hulk leads into World War Hulk (http://www.amazon.com/World-War-Hulk-Marvel-Comics/dp/0785125965/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213881184&sr=1-3), also by Pak. I won't give a synopsis as it kind of ruins the entire story of Planet Hulk, but it's a good old fashioned smash-fest.
Aside from those, there's Marvel's Digital Comics Unlimited (http://www.marvel.com/digitalcomics/). It's a subscription based website that allows you to read comics online for $10 a month or $60 a year. They've got a pretty decent selection of Hulk comics (Though not as comprehensive as it should with the new movie out). It's got at least enough to warrant a month's subscription to wade through (Such as the first run of The Ultimates, which is a great Hulk story AND the lead up to and most of Planet Hulk). They have free samples, too, so I'd recommend checking it out.
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The Ultimates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimates) is a great place to start, as a lot of the Marvel Avengers film franchise seems to be basing itself (loosely) off that. They're also pretty damn good.
ditto on Planet Hulk.
There's also some Essential Hulk (http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Incredible-Hulk-Marvel-Essentials/dp/0785123741/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213887451&sr=8-1) collections, of which I think Vol. 2 should be required reading.
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Marvel Essentials in general are absolutely fantastic. I learned most of my Marvel history from collecting them through my teens. They're ridiculously cheap and ridiculously comprehensive (The X-Men ones alone cover something like 200 issues' worth and can be gotten for under $150 if you bargain shop online)
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I really enjoyed this movie. I didn't catch that it was Doc Samson the first time, glad someone mentioned that.
I heard Luke Cage and Power Man show up at some point, can anyone tell me where they were?
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i just saw this last night and must say i am incredibly impressed (pun intended, for sure).
i thought it was much better than Iron Man because, despite how awesome Iron Man was, the pacing was just wrong.
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Alright I liked this too, but how can you possibly say it was a better movie than Iron Man? That was perfect from start to finish, all the acting was great, and it captured the spirit of the comic perfectly. Hulk had some really wooden performances, the chemistry between Norton and Tyler was flat to say the least, and while the Mr. Green/Mr. Blue thing was cool, the film as a whole doesn't come close to what Iron Man did.
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Speaking of, was I the only person hoping for the entire movie that Mr. Blue was The Beast? Man, was I sorely disappointed.
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don't get me wrong, Plasticity, i loved Iron Man too but they just rushed it far too much and pretty much decided to not develop the villain at all.
it's like "okay, he's Iron Man now, we'll see some development of his superhero side OH WAIT HE'S FIGHTING THE MAIN VILLAIN WHO WE BARELY KNEW ABOUT MOVIE OVER"
pretty much ruined it for me.
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I am a fan of Team Loeb & Sale (although I heard Spiderman: Blue wasn't that great), so I will probably check out Hulk: Gray and some Essentials. I don't know why I've never bothered to read any Essentials before, but I can always abuse the local Borders like a library when I'm strapped for cash and plow through some of those.
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^That is how I've read through nearly all of the Ultimates line...
I enjoyed Hulk quite a bit, and I would put my experience on par with my Iron Man experience. I thought Norton did a great job taking control of the project (I'm so glad he did, but I'm morbidly curious what it would have been like if he hadn't), though they are setting the bar really high for the rest of the movies they have coming out soon. From what I understand, Thor and Captain America with both be period pieces (Thor being a Norse Fantasy type movie, a lot like Lord of the Rings probably, and Captain America being set all in WW2) and these two have just been done so well, and modern, that it makes me both extremely anxious and extremely nervous about the future movies.
But, I can't really say enough good about this movie. I'm not so sure I like the very obvious "if we were to make a sequel to this movie, maybe it will be the Leader?" moment. I guess it was good fan sevice, though I'll admit I know almost nothing about the Leader, but I felt like it was just a little over the top. Personal opinion? Yes. Of course.
What I'm hoping is that Iron Man 2 will be Tony Stark unleashing the Hulkbuster armor! That would be fun.
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They're actually bringing out a Thor movie, then? Hmm...
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Thor better be played by Eric Adams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manowar).
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Although I'm posting this way after I saw the movie, I liked it. No Iron Man, but still entertaining. However, much of the final fight scene that takes place in "Harlem" was a bit lost on me after I noticed the Zanzibar strip club that is not next to the Apollo Theatre but stands alone in the heart of downtown Toronto. Didn't help that I'd been to the Apollo about two months before then (I even sang on the stage, which was fun).
Nitpicking aside, a decent movie.