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Title: Fusion Foods
Post by: normz on 14 Mar 2008, 06:42
Ok so i was making cookies for a friend today and she rang just as I added the choc-chips, anyway we were talking away and when I told her I was making choc-chip cookies she complained that she wanted jam drops, so i created a new fusion jam drop choc chip cookie.

This however is not the first fusion food incident.... i have been known to make a scromelette (i was trying to make an omelette but then i flipped it funny so it had to turn into something resembling scrambled eggs or a fusion scromelette really

anyway just wondering if i am alone in this bizarre food fusion or if there is hope and there are others out there like me
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: usmcnavgeek on 14 Mar 2008, 07:20
Well, in the sense of cooking mistakes that turned out okay, I once put 3 cups of brown sugar into a recipe that called for 2/3 of a cup, and they were the chewiest, gooiest cookies I ever made.

But they were delicious.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: SeanBateman on 14 Mar 2008, 09:01
If you mean legitimate fusion food, then I tend to hate it. The entire fucking city is full of mediocre chef's who think they were the first one who had the idea to combine thai food with east indian or some shit, and I am really tired of pseudo-fancy eateries that overcharge for food that doesn't taste bad, but is way way lower in quality than in price, if that makes sense.

You however, just seem to be experimenting, and good for you! You never know what you're going to get if you just fuck around and try new things.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: blaha 41 on 14 Mar 2008, 09:56
If you mean legitimate fusion food, then I tend to hate it. The entire fucking city is full of mediocre chef's who think they were the first one who had the idea to combine thai food with east indian or some shit, and I am really tired of pseudo-fancy eateries that overcharge for food that doesn't taste bad, but is way way lower in quality than in price, if that makes sense.

You however, just seem to be experimenting, and good for you! You never know what you're going to get if you just fuck around and try new things.

What city are you in? That's the norm in nyc for plates between $12 and $25 if you're will to step slightly higher up though, the food becomes amazing.

Last night I did snapper fillets seasoned with orange, fennel, and basil (italian style!) served over spicy thai green beans. it was pretty rocking, but frozen fish sucks. there is no way around it. it makes everything tougher/chewier, which is not what I want in fish. i wonder if frozen chicken/beef/etc. matters as much.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: ampersandwitch on 14 Mar 2008, 10:36
Peanut butter sandwiches with pickles amirite
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2008, 12:07
Tortilla wraps cut into small squares with peanut butter inside, sort of parcelled up as a vol au vent. Not a nutritious dinner, however much I tried to kid my brother and dad about it, but quite tasty.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: thegreatbuddha on 14 Mar 2008, 12:43
If you mean legitimate fusion food, then I tend to hate it. The entire fucking city is full of mediocre chef's who think they were the first one who had the idea to combine thai food with east indian or some shit, and I am really tired of pseudo-fancy eateries that overcharge for food that doesn't taste bad, but is way way lower in quality than in price, if that makes sense.

QFT

i wonder if frozen chicken/beef/etc. matters as much.

It depends on the usage. Chicken, not so much. With beef, if you're going to be serving it as steaks, tournedos, medallions, or a larger cut like chateau-briand, it is better if it has never been frozen. The water in the cells swell and burst them, giving the meat a grainier texture as well as losing some flavor when the ice melts and runs out of the meat. For something like carpaccio, freezing the meat (not rock solid mind you; just enough to make it nice and firm) is a necessity, just to be able to slice it paper thin. Since carpaccio is prepared a la minute and is raw anyway, you don't lose any taste to purge.

As far as just fucking around and coming up with stuff, peanut butter and bacon is where its at. Weight the bacon if possible and get it crispy. Drain most of the fat off, then rough chop it and stir it into the peanut butter.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Unosuke on 14 Mar 2008, 13:20
Ladies, I give you, the Hamdog:

Hotdog, wrap it in a hamburger patty and deep fry that badboy, then serve it on a hogie roll with chili, cheese, onions, bacon, and a fried egg.


Its like a heart attack in every bite~  :lol:
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Elizzybeth on 14 Mar 2008, 13:24
Every night when I was in the fourth grade, I had a cup of hot chocolate, into which I dipped dill pickles.

But I third the comment about fusion restaurants.  The only one I've ever been to was called thaitalian, and though the food was tolerable, it was overpriced and uninteresting.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: StaedlerMars on 14 Mar 2008, 14:43
That sounds positively disgusting. The hot chocolate pickle thing.

peanut butter with soy sauce is amazing. cook some peppers into that stuff, and then bacon...
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2008, 14:48
Damn you Elizzybeth now I want hot chocolate!

Although I think I'll just put hot chocolate and milk in it.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 14 Mar 2008, 15:48
French Fries and vanilla icecream. Yes yes.

Ok so i was making cookies for a friend today and she rang just as I added the choc-chips, anyway we were talking away and when I told her I was making choc-chip cookies she complained that she wanted jam drops, so i created a new fusion jam drop choc chip cookie.


Man fuck that. If I was making cookies for someone and halfway through they started complaining that they weren't the right ones they can go get fucked. I reckon that's pretty low.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: öde on 14 Mar 2008, 17:43
I do this kinda thing all the time now. Couscous in tortillas is nice.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: KvP on 14 Mar 2008, 19:17
The worst fusion food I've ever had was at PF Chang's. For awhile they had fucking ham and cheese wontons. God, they were awful. The very thought of them is awful.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Switchblade on 14 Mar 2008, 19:31
bacon + waffle = Bacowaffle

a real, honest-to-god product of one of my housemates. Actually quite tasty.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Bibliophile on 14 Mar 2008, 20:25
Jimmy - yes! Thank goodness someone else finally understands the ice cream/french fries thing. Also, french fries dipped in milkshake, very similar, very tasty.

I made chocolate cookies the other day. But when you bit into them there was a suprise peanut butter filling! Not a very original flavour mix, but good! Not so good for people with peanut allergies. Always check first.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Darkbluerabbit on 14 Mar 2008, 21:18
I made a peanut butter and barbecue sauce sandwich not too long ago.  It was not awful.  It was part of my ongoing experiment to prove that barbecue sauce can be good on anything if you do it right. 

One idea this experiment yielded that I actually started making on a regular basis is spicy barbecue popcorn.  I pop a bag of popcorn, then I add about a tablespoon of barbecue sauce and a healthy sprinkling of cayenne pepper and shake it up until it's all coated.  A few pieces get soggy, but the rest become sticky, crunchy, spicy goodness.  It may not be true fusion, but it is a sort of unexpected combination. 
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 14 Mar 2008, 22:14
French Fries and a Wendy's Frosty. Fuck Yes.

At least that's all cleared up.

I'm not sure if it counts as fusion or not, but last night I had some spaghetti with pasta sauce, and to add something to beef it up a little I threw in some oil marinated mozzarella/basil/sun dried tomatoes and some fried potatoes from Taco Bell that my brother brought home in a big bag, and then zapped it all in a microwave. This is not my proudest culinary moment.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: RedLion on 14 Mar 2008, 22:41
Bread with spaghetti-O's spread on it, and then folded like a sort of bread/spaghetti-O Taco.

Delicious.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: muteKi on 15 Mar 2008, 00:39
The worst fusion food I've ever had was at PF Chang's. For awhile they had fucking ham and cheese wontons. God, they were awful. The very thought of them is awful.

Most of my experiences with them have been good, but I don't exactly frequent any such establishment, so I can't say too much about them.

That dish sounds pretty bad regardless.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: KharBevNor on 15 Mar 2008, 08:37
peanut butter with soy sauce is amazing.

Isn't that essentially satay?
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 15 Mar 2008, 10:28
Add some sugar and sesame oil and its just peanut sauce.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: littlelove on 15 Mar 2008, 10:40
potato chips on your burgers, hot dogs, etc.

Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Eli on 15 Mar 2008, 11:00
My little sister snacks on peanut butter and chicken salad sandwiches almost every day. I've never had one, since I don't like either, but she's made it for lots of other kids and they like it. She also puts pineapple and marshmallow fluff stuff together on a sandwich. I can't remember what kind of bread she uses, but it's sweeter than most bread.
She's the queen of fusion foods, but for the most part, you shouldn't ask her what she added in extra. The ingredients usually sound so gross together, but are delicious.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Unosuke on 15 Mar 2008, 14:05
anyone ever have Chocolate with bacon bits in it?

It wasn't gross, it was just you couldn't really taste the bacon.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: öde on 15 Mar 2008, 14:08
I can't remember what kind of bread she uses, but it's sweeter than most bread.

Hard bread? Hard bread is hard and sweet (delicious).
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Mar 2008, 15:19
My brother had tomato ketchup and chocolate spread pancakes once.

And I once dipped a chip into some dandelion and burdock, but it was nasty.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: BobJoeJim on 15 Mar 2008, 17:26
Quote from: thegreatbuddha
peanut butter and bacon
Quote from: Unosuke
Hamdog ... bacon
Quote from: StaedlerMars
peanut butter with soy sauce is amazing. cook some peppers into that stuff, and then bacon...
Quote from: Switchblade
bacon + waffle = Bacowaffle
Quote from: Unosuke
anyone ever have Chocolate with bacon bits in it?

I was going to mention my bacon-maple chicken recipe again.  Can we all just agree that Bacon + X = DELICIOUS as long as X is an edible food product?
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: clockworkjames on 15 Mar 2008, 18:02
Okay I am going to share with you the finest fast food fusion I've found.

KFC popcorn chikkins and smarties avalanche.

2.98 and it's your lunch for the day. Me and my LAN buddies wentt for dinner at KFC today (maybe like 3 hours ago) as we do many days but instead of me pete and kenny going for food it was me ben and kenny. Now pete and kenny know how I eat popcorn chicken and ice cream but ben didn't so when he saw me do it he was disgusted at first but as I om nom nomed away he grew curious and asked to try one, I let him and he said "Damn..." and fell silent. Now kenny tried one (after me asking him to try one about 3 separate times beforehand but pete just flat out refused every time also).

Short story shorted kenny stood in line again for an ice cream and back at LAN he dipped all his chickens in the ice cream, saying strips were too salty compared to popcorn chikkins but he kept dipping them because it is good :/

Pete was still disgusted.

But yeah, it's awesome because the spices and sweetness go together so damn well. It's hard to describe but they are just so damn good together.

TL;DR Chicken and ice cream.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Eli on 15 Mar 2008, 19:38
Yeah, that's what it is, hard bread. Thanks.

It's not a fusion food, I guess, but my sister puts chili power, seasoned salt, garlic powder, sage, and thyme all together and uses it on chicken and steak and they taste great.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Slick on 15 Mar 2008, 20:06
I once walked into a friend's house after going to the market to see that his housemate was toasting two eggos and unwrapping a processed cheese single. He then put the cheese between the eggos, and microwaved the works. And ate it. Staring at us with eyes like a hurt puppy dog who knows his master thinks he's done something wrong but he doesn't think it's really that bad, honestly.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: KvP on 15 Mar 2008, 20:31
The worst fusion food I've ever had was at PF Chang's. For awhile they had fucking ham and cheese wontons. God, they were awful. The very thought of them is awful.

Most of my experiences with them have been good, but I don't exactly frequent any such establishment, so I can't say too much about them.

That dish sounds pretty bad regardless.
You're right, PF Chang's is generally pretty good (but in most cases, not good enough to justify the price) it's just this one seasonal item they had.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Mar 2008, 21:40
I use sweet chilli sauce in a lot of my cooking including the pasta...mornay/bake thing that I make. Basically it is italian pasta sauce, mayonnaise, tuna, cheese and sweet chilli. Wholegrain mustard if you have it as well. Does that count as fusion?
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Slick on 15 Mar 2008, 22:33
Opinion: If someone calls something fusion foods, I will laugh at them. If they call it experimental cooking, I will probably want in their pants.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: BobJoeJim on 15 Mar 2008, 23:37
To be fair, Slick, there is a legitimate difference in meaning between "fusion" and "experimental".  Experimental is a very general term for any time you try a non-traditional combination of ingredients.  If the experiment is a direct combination of two or more specific traditional types of cuisine though, then it is fusion.  Also, it's not necessarily a rectangles/squares situation, because there are some combinations that are definitely fusion, but that are also tried and true, to the degree that it wouldn't really be fair to call them experimental.

tl;dr I'm calling it fusion so you stay out of my pants.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: öde on 16 Mar 2008, 04:47
I also dislike the term fusion but only because it sounds like a shitty word lots of pricks use like 'infused with a blend of...'. I don't know why but it pisses me off so much.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Cartilage Head on 16 Mar 2008, 08:00
 I have a strange theory that almost any food that is delicious can go together without the meal being compromised. I mean, one of my favorite cheap lunches is a burrito and a Hostess fruit pie eaten together. It is The Bomb.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: ForteBass on 16 Mar 2008, 08:05
Ladies, I give you, the Hamdog:

Hotdog, wrap it in a hamburger patty and deep fry that badboy, then serve it on a hogie roll with chili, cheese, onions, bacon, and a fried egg.


Its like a heart attack in every bite~  :lol:

I'll see your Hamdog and raise a Lutherburger
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Inlander on 16 Mar 2008, 17:53
I made a chocolate milkshake with hot paprika in it a few weeks ago. It was predictably delicious.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Noff on 16 Mar 2008, 18:41
I slice up green peppers and dip them into peanut butter. 

Also, chocolate covered bacon is amazing.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: BobJoeJim on 16 Mar 2008, 20:17
Oh yeah, I should mention chocolate and garlic.  I tried them after someone (maybe Slick?) suggested it in one of our previous food threads, and it is a GREAT combination.  Chocolate brownies slathered in garlic butter is the absolute win.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Saiokuo on 16 Mar 2008, 21:29
I have a friend who always puts mashed potatoes on his pizza at lunch and another who likes nacho chips slightly crunched up in his sandwiches.
I personally like ranch dressing with stirfry.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 Mar 2008, 11:45
The mashed potatoes + pizza thing sounds pretty good.

Chips + sandwich is always good.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: thegreatbuddha on 17 Mar 2008, 14:33
Today I'll be making beef en croute with a brandied-apricot and cirrano pepper glaze. I guess that counts as fusion, althoughI've been told Aussies love fruit with their meat.

Either way, it will be tasty.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: celticgeek on 17 Mar 2008, 15:29
Not a fusion food, but we, of course, are having corned beef and cabbage, as well as Guinness, today.

Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Inlander on 17 Mar 2008, 16:18
I've been told Aussies love fruit with their meat.

Who told you this??
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 17 Mar 2008, 22:29
I'm not sure about all this talk about chips crushed up onto sandwiches, but I do know that french fries on burgers are awesome (and something I haven't done since I was 12 for some reason), so maybe the logic is cold sandwiches use chips instead. Speaking of things I did in childhood, I used to put mustard on my pizza at school and I would make a sandwich using a roll, green beans, mashed potatoes and gravy and the chicken fried steak. Its a Chicken fried steak with all of the accoutrements piled onto a delicious mini sandwich, two or three of those is an awesome meal. Also a couple mustard packets, I used to be crazy about the extra mustard as a kid.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: thegreatbuddha on 18 Mar 2008, 04:02
Who told you this??

It's in my Principles of International Cuisine textbook I think. Not true I take it?
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Eris on 18 Mar 2008, 04:12
Meat and tomatoes is a fairly common combination in a lot of places! I don't think it's just an Australian thing.

I personally like fruit with meat. I have apricot chicken, and sweet curry which has banana and fruit chutney in it. It adds a nice sweet contrast to it, but that could just be because I have a ridiculous sweet tooth.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: jhocking on 18 Mar 2008, 04:12
Oh it's true. But it's a secret.

Harry wants to know your source so that he knows who to assassinate.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: thegreatbuddha on 18 Mar 2008, 04:21
Meat and tomatoes is a fairly common combination in a lot of places! I don't think it's just an Australian thing

The book specifically refers to kiwis and other assorted tropical/subtropical fruits that grow in Australia. The two examples I remember are beefsteaks stuffed with kiwi andmaybe mango, and some fish dish with a fruit coulis. I'm drunk right now and don't feel like going out to my car to grab the book, but I'll quote the source when I wake up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 18 Mar 2008, 04:41
How about I save you the trouble and tell you that it is total bullshit. Seriously, I have heard of Apricot Chicken and Mango Chicken is a personal favourite of mine (yet it is only made at indian restaraunts, to my knowledge at least) but both of those aren't really Australian cuisine. In fact I don't think most Australians would consider any particular food quintessentially Aussie unless it was a pie or something. I might be crap at being Australian but I've never actually heard of Australian "cuisine" other than the whole bush tucker thing which is all bugs and nasty bread.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Lunchbox on 18 Mar 2008, 04:46
According to Bowling and RSL clubs, Australian cuisine is Chicken Schnitzel, Roast Beef and soggy baked potatoes.

Anyway: Fish and fruit is nice. At work we sometimes do a trout and mango salad which is divine.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: Aztex on 18 Mar 2008, 07:40
Today i mixed Japanese Udon with Malaysian Randaan

was pretty good.

I fried the Udon noodles and then put it into a bowl and added the Randaan Curry.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: clockworkjames on 18 Mar 2008, 17:15
Yeah fruit and fish is awesome, I remember once my dad made this nice sticky sauce from honey or syrup and lemon juice, was really nice but he made it while I was gutting the trout we had caught so I didn't see what went into it.

It was really tasty and I remember it over ten years on.
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: jodizzle on 25 Mar 2008, 22:26
There is a cafe near my house that makes an amazing steak burger which is only amazing because of the mango chutney on it.  OMNOMNOM
Title: Re: Fusion Foods
Post by: thegreatbuddha on 26 Mar 2008, 00:13
Mango chutney is amazing. There used to be a diner near my school that made pork chops with mango peach yellow pepper chutney that was to die for. They went out of business and I miss them.