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Fun Stuff => MAKE => Topic started by: Creothcean on 14 Mar 2008, 15:21
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So, I recently decided to go back through the Questionable Content archives from the very beginning just to see how things have changed.
I will admit that Jeph's drawing style has improved, but there is still one major grievance that I have to raise:
The female characters are no longer very attractive.
Back in the day (particularly circa comic #300 or so) the female characters were attractive and it was possible to envision them as capable of attracting men (Marten in particular).
Now, they seem almost older and less "hot". Faye in particular now looks like she could be someone's mom or a middle-aged businesswoman.
No, I am not a hentai freak, but seriously, where's the sex appeal?
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If you're reading QC for the sex appeal, there is something very, very wrong with you.
Also, sex appeal is a subjective thing. What is sexy to you may not be sexy to somebody else.
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what.
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I'm sorry you can't masturbate to cartoons anymore. There is some rule34 out there on QC characters, maybe that will help?
But seriously, dude, thats fucking creepy.
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I will never understand people who prefer my earlier art style.
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I think the artwork is at its absolute best in comic 934.
..Wait.
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I think #760 is where Jeph reached his all-time peak.
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I was having a really "on" day that day.
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I don't really trust comics where the art style doesn't change over time. If QC had stayed the same since the beginning, something would be very wrong with the process behind it.
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Only sprite comics based on old games never change. QC is, thankfully, not a sprite comic.
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I disagree, the art at the beginning was decent, but I LOVE the current artwork. My favorite art of any webcomic.
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The only thing that I find odd, is the first time we meet Faye, and for a while afterward, she is a skinny chick.
Somewhere along the way she turned into the aerodynamically curvacious hipster we all know and love. I just wonder if that was intentional or not.
Also, what ever happened to Sarah? She worked at Coffee of Doom for the first few strips, had a crush on Marten. Then after Faye admits to having been out to the bar with Marten, we never see/hear from Sarah again.
Just some observations.... ;)
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I like how the style of the characters change. Its a general improvement all around form character development to background development. The fact that Jeph can do these on a daily basis is confounding to the mind. I have issues just sketching, though I'm fairly sure Jeph uses a tablet of some sort. Either way, the art here changes like people do in life. It adds character to the comic.
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Also, what ever happened to Sarah?
Horrible story, best read the cast's page... :|
@Geek Lord, Teh:
Yep, he does use a tablet. Without those things, he'd have at least arthritis, if not additionally also rheuma, in his wrist. ^^
@Topic:
Isn't improvement a signal for and a sign of devotion to the comic?
Martelore's diagnosis - if true, which I believe to be so - totally hit the spot, methinks.
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Rumors have it she was eaten by some large reptile...
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So, I recently decided to go back through the Questionable Content archives from the very beginning just to see how things have changed.
I will admit that Jeph's drawing style has improved, but there is still one major grievance that I have to raise:
The female characters are no longer very attractive.
Back in the day (particularly circa comic #300 or so) the female characters were attractive and it was possible to envision them as capable of attracting men (Marten in particular).
Now, they seem almost older and less "hot". Faye in particular now looks like she could be someone's mom or a middle-aged businesswoman.
No, I am not a hentai freak, but seriously, where's the sex appeal?
meh I wasn't a fan of the way Faye looked back in #300.
The very beginning was good art, very simplistic, I like that. I also like the current art.
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It's quite normal for comics to change in drawing style over-time without a change of artists. One example I can think of is Tintin (which started quite cartoony). Actually, many European (French, Belgian, Dutch) comics show progress in style. I think that when a cartoon artist draws the same characters over and over again, he is bound to improve on their looks. Maybe the characters become more like real people to the artist so he draws them better (more "realistic" and anatomically correct) as time progresses.
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I don't really trust comics where the art style doesn't change over time. If QC had stayed the same since the beginning, something would be very wrong with the process behind it.
Yea, that's my general thought. Stuff like *shudder* CAD just makes you KNOW that he's copy-pasting everything. (Well, that, and the horrendously awful storylines and flat characters. But that's another rant.)
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I don't really trust comics where the art style doesn't change over time. If QC had stayed the same since the beginning, something would be very wrong with the process behind it.
Yea, that's my general thought. Stuff like *shudder* CAD just makes you KNOW that he's copy-pasting everything. (Well, that, and the horrendously awful storylines and flat characters. But that's another rant.)
Why the hell are you reading CAD for deep storylines and characters? That's like watching a porn film for excellent acting and production.
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I don't really trust comics where the art style doesn't change over time. If QC had stayed the same since the beginning, something would be very wrong with the process behind it.
Yea, that's my general thought. Stuff like *shudder* CAD just makes you KNOW that he's copy-pasting everything. (Well, that, and the horrendously awful storylines and flat characters. But that's another rant.)
That was the first webcomic that I read all the way through and checked regularly. Though it pales in comparison to QC or xkcd (the latter doesn't have a story, but damned if it isn't amazing), you have to admit the art has progressed well from comic #1.
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That was the first webcomic that I read all the way through and checked regularly. Though it pales in comparison to QC or xkcd (the latter doesn't have a story, but damned if it isn't amazing), you have to admit the art has progressed well from comic #1.
In five years, he went from thin outlines to thick outlines.
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Oh! Don't forget! Shading too!
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Shading too!
BUT most importantly: the evolution of the B^U face.
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I actually found this most recent one (flour with diaper) to be a bit amusing.
I've certainly lauged at this one more than, say, SMBC.
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Buh?
The change in drawing style is wonderful, it gives the whole comic a sort of organic aspect since it is forever evolving. I, personally, think the growth in the art of the comic is spectacular - mass props to Jeph.
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I've certainly lauged at this one more than, say, SMBC.
You don't like SMBC?
How is that possible?
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Well, some of it was funny, way back when.
Nowadays he seems to have fallen into some weird trap in between complaints one might have over CAD and C&H -- it almost feels like terse ranting trying to only offend.
For some reason I don't like it anywhere near as much as C&H, even though they both do the "let's be really offensive thing" fairly often. I'm still not sure why.
EDIT: I looked at today's SMBC. Not funny at all, maybe a little annoying more than anything, though a couple before that are pretty good.
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I agree that it isn't as good as it used to be, but even back then it varied a bit. I think the varying quality of the strips can be attributed to the one or more a day schedule - most strips that update that much tend to be hit or miss.
But when it's good, it's damn good.
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Wondermark is a comic that has always had great art in my opinion.
QC has definitely gotten better over time.
Although some of his one comic expirements with the hair weren't so great.
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721 was his peak. Not that the artwork has gone downhill since, it just hard to beat blatent anime ripoff and Tequila Monster in the same comic.
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With all the people that read the comic, chances are high that there's at least one person who thinks each comic was his peak.
Let's try to find someone for comic 1!
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Anyone notice that Jeph's been drawing the noses a bit different? Look closely at the latest comic. I think it looks fine on Faye but Hannelore just looks weird.
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The artwork in Dinosaur Comics was better in the early days.
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This is the worst fucking thread.
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Khar, this thread has nothing to do with fucking. Try this one. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,15831.0.html)
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Although some of his one comic expirements with the hair weren't so great.
Marten should bring back the Morrissey mating plumage.
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Also, what ever happened to Sarah? She worked at Coffee of Doom for the first few strips, had a crush on Marten. Then after Faye admits to having been out to the bar with Marten, we never see/hear from Sarah again.
Eaten by allosaurs. DURR didn't you read?? Haha, oh I only found out what was more to the comic today... I'm totally buying some of the original QC shirts this weekend.
Jeph, you blow my mind. One night, I couldn't sleep because I was like, "How could Faye be such a prick?? She should totally be with Marten!! OH MY GOD I'M FRETTING OVER QC!!
Dora you slut..
Oh my god I'm still going it"
This went on for like an hour, and Jeph, it's hours like those that I remember why I love my waking life.
KTHX
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The early 200s comics were always my favorite period, just cause the characters had a more comic-y, cute-sy look to them. The artwork has definitely improved, and I think from about 300-700 the artwork was a little awkward. kudos!
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My favorite is the artwork from about 300-400. I think it is the awesome.
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I remember a time when I had trouble telling Faye and Dora apart (Raven was only easily because of her airheaded dialogue.
The art progression on the strip has been great.
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My favorite is the artwork from about 300-400. I think it is the awesome.
Reviewing these strips I totally agree. Although I still stand by my previous comment.
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I love the new stuff!!
Love.
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I like it better when the female characters aren't just drawn as total hotties. It gives more a sense of realism to have women of a realistic standard of attractiveness.
In real life, I'm sure most men would only go for hotties given the choice. Failing that, they go for average/normal looking women they get along with well.
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Having reviewed some of the earlier strips (mostly due to that "Your favourite QC-strip" -thread), I have to say that I actually preferred the way Faye looked in those earlier strips.
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In real life, I'm sure most men would only go for hotties given the choice.
Based on the standard scale of hotness or...?
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I like where the art has gone, but 753 is my fave, the style is cute and the last block is just funny. :wink:
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I like it better when the female characters aren't just drawn as total hotties. It gives more a sense of realism to have women of a realistic standard of attractiveness.
In real life, I'm sure most men would only go for hotties given the choice. Failing that, they go for average/normal looking women they get along with well.
Yeah man we are just dicks.
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Pretty much yeah. You're all disgusting.
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Men! C'mon people am I right or am I right??
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i dunno, i'm kinda on the fence here
i think that the new drawing style has kinda made it clear the differences between Dora and Faye and Raven, and how Faye is slightly larger then both of them.
But wtf you on about 'wheres the sex appeal'???
Dora man. I'd totally wreck that chick. 8-)
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I fucking hate it when people talk like they assume the person in question would absolutely be up for having sex with them, or that they have no say in it at all.
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It's kinda difficile to say "Man I'd totally wreck that chick were she willing and/or tied up." Besides. that part is always implied.
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Oh, that's okay then. Also I would totally fuck you.
(Not rude or creepy at all!)
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Would I have sex with any of the characters?
No, because they are two dimensional fictitious people ON THE INTERNET.
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Would I have sex with any of the characters?
No, because they are two dimensional fictitious people ON THE INTERNET.
Quitters never win and winners never quit, my friend.
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Would I have sex with any of the characters?
No, because they are two dimensional fictitious people ON THE INTERNET.
Now your'e gonna hold that against them?
Topicwise: The drawings got better and better up until about 900ish, and then they have stabilized on pretty much the same. The changes isn't as drastic nowdays.
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Dora man. I'd totally wreck that chick. 8-)
Along with Gadget from the Rescue Rangers, right?
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Would I have sex with any of the characters?
No, because they are two dimensional fictitious people ON THE INTERNET.
Now your'e gonna hold that against them?
Topicwise: The drawings got better and better up until about 900ish, and then they have stabilized on pretty much the same. The changes isn't as drastic nowdays.
True. But also remember that Pintsize was arguably better in the beginning.
lawl sexier too :lol: :lol: :lol:
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But he didn't have elbows in the beginning. Do you want to take that away from the poor guy? :-(
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It'd be nearly a hate crime to deprive someone of their weenis, an act that could've only been born of a deep seated weenis envy.
In fact, I'd say the only reason for elbows at all is for the weenis.
I know that's the only reason I keep mine around, is for the weenis on each.
Weenis.
Also, a big fan of early 700 comic styling and the earlier stuff when Pintsize still had his laser belly. Good times.
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This thread. It has issues.
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This thread. It has issues.
I blame men.
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I love them all equally, for real. the older ones were kinda pale and toony looking, great none the less.
I liked how as time progressed, the comic got better graphically, I have a 9"x12" Adesso tablet and am working on my skills on that when I have time. I am far better when I was drawing with pencil and paper, I have Paint Shop Pro 9 and and bought CS2 a while back still kind working on that though, hard getting used to the way the tablet draws.
The story is still freaking amazing, shocking, funny and compelling.
kept my ADD under control, hahah started reading it here at work Thursday night, and finished the last one in the wee hours this morning.
probably the equivalent to Hanner's OCD now I'm itching for the next one. :roll:
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Art styles evolve. Even the art in classic newspaper cartoons like Peanuts and Calvin and Hobbes evolved. If you look at a Peanuts from the 50's and one from the 70's, the art is almost unrecognisable as being from the same strip, by the same artist.
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To the OP,
I put a comparison of Faye in comic 300 and the latest Faye comic, about 4 days ago. If you honestly think 300 Faye is sexier than current Faye, you are certifiably insane.
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8906/fayecomparisonma1.png)
Seriously, there's no comparison. Current Faye = teh hawt. Old Faye = meh.
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They are drawings. If you think cartoon characters are "teh hawt" or any variation of that term, then there is something wrong with you.
Seriously, go get some fresh air and look at some real people for a while. Maybe then you won't seem so goddamn creepy
The changes in style are really amazing to show how much Jeph has improved over the years, in terms of proportions, clothing folds, and general drawing skills. The fact that some people think that his characters aren't as sexually appealing doesn't mean a thing. This shouldn't even be a discussion.
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They are drawings. If you think cartoon characters are "teh hawt" or any variation of that term, then there is something wrong with you.
Seriously, go get some fresh air and look at some real people for a while. Maybe then you won't seem so goddamn creepy
The changes in style are really amazing to show how much Jeph has improved over the years, in terms of proportions, clothing folds, and general drawing skills. The fact that some people think that his characters aren't as sexually appealing doesn't mean a thing. This shouldn't even be a discussion.
Hey kiddo. Sorry about whatever in your life caused so much bitterness. But occassionally, when looking at pictures of people drawn and designed to look attractive, I am attracted! Wow! How could that have happened? Something that isn't a real person is attractive? Who could have ever dreamed of that possibility? Artists for thousands of years throughout all of history? nah....
You probably should leave some more posts dripping with condescension, though, just in case anybody was unclear about how superior you are to people who are gross and find fictional characters somewhat attractive. Also be sure to point out how much better you are than everyone because you don't use silly internet language like "teh hawt" for comedic effect. Remember: THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BISNESS. YOU MUST WIN.
(http://blogs.technet.com/photos/gray_knowlton/images/2998979/original.aspx)
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Danny Newkid, Jeph has said before that he thinks that people finding his characters sexually attractive is creepy and hates when people talk about it.
Also, locking this thread because it's shit.