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Title: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: cabose on 03 Apr 2008, 17:54
So i ran a quick search and couldn't find anything recent about metal, so i decided to make my own topic.

My favorite metal bands are: Lamb of God, Disturbed, Slipknot, Korn, Devil Driver, Dimmu Borgir, Pantera.

The bands i find slightly acceptable: Godsmack, Cannibal Corpse.

The bands i find horrible: Cradle of Filth, Children of Bodom.

The bands i do not consider metal: Limp Bizkit, Breaking Benjamin.

Just trying to get a conversation going, Ima leave it up to you all now.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Buttfranklin on 03 Apr 2008, 18:15
I find it hard to believe that you searched very thoroughly, to not find anything about metal on THIS forum.

Also, you look like you need some suggestions, because most of those bands just aren't very good metal (ie. Korn aren't even metal, and Slipknot are nu metal).  Maybe you just haven't been exposed to enough.  Listen to Khar in particular, he should be along soon :]

*waves*
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: cabose on 03 Apr 2008, 18:18
I find it hard to classify bands like slipknot or korn, even disturbed gets hard, everyone seems to have a different idea of what they are, metal, nu-metal, who cares its all good, usually.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 18:33
So i ran a quick search and couldn't find anything recent about metal, so i decided to make my own topic.

My favorite metal bands are: Lamb of God, Disturbed, Slipknot, Korn, Devil Driver, Dimmu Borgir, Pantera.

The bands i find slightly acceptable: Godsmack, Cannibal Corpse.

The bands that I have bolded are not metal. It may be time for a metal education:

If you like extreme bands, then I wholeheartedly suggest Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NpIt6AYejI), Decapitated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfRT5FZYI10), Strapping Young Lad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVifUqwui7A) and Sadus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ori8qRUcXXI).

Also, Slipknot and KoRn are not metal. Not really debatable.

www.metal-archives.com

If a band is not listed there, they are not metal.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Broken_Drum on 03 Apr 2008, 18:44
Plus Lamb Of God are Metalcore.

Anyway, I don't listen to much Metal in fact the only bands from the genre I listen to are Mastodon, Agalloch and Earth. They aren't pure Metal but some sub genres of it.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 18:45
oh god not another generic metal thread please god no please jesus baby jesus no
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 18:48
Yeah because a whole forum of indie poptards really shakes things up
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 18:49
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Nobody on this board listens to indie rock.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 18:53
I'm saying that a metal thread is fantastic for the likes of Khar and I to stretch our egos so please please don't ruin it.  :-(
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 18:56
THAT REMINDS ME OF THE MID-90'S CHAMPAIGN-URBANA INDIE ROCK SCENE WHICH BIRTHED THE LIKES OF HUM, CASTOR, AND LOVE CUP

AND ANCILLIARY SCENES THAT SPAWNED RELATED BANDS SUCH AS FAILURE, SHINER, SEAM, ETC ETC ETC

GUYS MY INDIE ROCK E-DONG IS *SOOOOOO HUGE*
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 18:58
FIGHT YOU, JEPH

GUYS WHAT ARE SOME GOOD INDIE BANDS THAT AREN'T THE MOUNTAIN GOATS

GUYS

GUYS?

YEAH I THOUGHT NOT
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 19:01
JOHN DARNIELLE???

MORE LIKE

JOHN DAMNIELLE AMIRITE
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 19:09
I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING BUT I WILL ASSUME THAT IT IS EXCEPTIONALLY DEROGATORY

LEAVE MY MOTHER OUT OF THIS
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: imagist42 on 03 Apr 2008, 20:14
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Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 03 Apr 2008, 20:17
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Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
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Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 03 Apr 2008, 20:41
FUCK YOU ALEX THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY GOOD METAL SINCE RATT BROKE UP
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 20:43
THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT DEATHSPELL OMEGA
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Apr 2008, 20:47
So i ran a quick search and couldn't find anything recent about metal, so i decided to make my own topic.

My favorite metal bands are: Lamb of God, Disturbed, Slipknot, Korn, Devil Driver, Dimmu Borgir, Pantera.

The bands i find slightly acceptable: Godsmack, Cannibal Corpse.

The bands that I have bolded are not metal. It may be time for a metal education:

If you like extreme bands, then I wholeheartedly suggest Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NpIt6AYejI), Decapitated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfRT5FZYI10), Strapping Young Lad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVifUqwui7A) and Sadus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ori8qRUcXXI).

Also, Slipknot and KoRn are not metal. Not really debatable.

www.metal-archives.com

If a band is not listed there, they are not metal.
I would not always agree with metal archives. Whatserface, the admin, name slips my mind, she seems to have a bias against proto-metal, BOC kind of stuff. Sure, they aren't even as heavy as their contemporaries, but black sabbath is pretty heavy even for today. And then she puts some stuff that seems pretty much just hair metal in the archives too, maybe I just haven't heard their metal releases. I do agree on what you labeled not metal, though. I think Lamb of God is pretty borderline, though that could be my quality bias coming out.

No jeph, this thread is now about Agalloch. We can all agree on that, yes? Or do I have to get the hatchet?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: jeph on 03 Apr 2008, 20:50
Man the singer for Agalloch is so silly
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 20:50
FUCK YOU ALEX THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY GOOD METAL SINCE RATT BROKE UP

WHEN WAS THAT

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS

BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A SHIT

THANK GOD KURT COBAIN SLEW THAT SHITTY HALF-ASS OF A SUBGENRE (AND BANDS LIKE RATT)

I DON'T LIKE RATT
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 20:51
Also, I'm very sure the likes of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, ect. are on Metal Archives.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 03 Apr 2008, 20:53
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From a wound carved as an oath; it fills the river bank a sanguine fog
These arms were meant to be lost! Hacked, severed and forgotten
The texture of time is a whisper that echoes across the flood
It's hymn resonates from tree to tree, through every sullen bough it sings
These boughs were said to be lost! Torn, unearthed and broken
Earth to flesh, flesh to wood, cast these limbs into the water
Flesh to wood, wood to stone, cast this stone into the water...
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Apr 2008, 20:57
Man the singer for Agalloch is so silly
And awesome. They get nervous in live performances, though, they couldn't get the effects right in the bootleg I heard. And in the DVD they are releasing, they messed up the volume so they had to play limbs *twice*.

Black sabbath is, same with deep purple, but not BOC or Uriah Heep, and Rush is on there, but I haven't heard anything from them that I would really describe as metal. Quiet riot is on there, I was surprised when I saw them under Q, I thought they were just hair metal, though metal health is an awesome song.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 03 Apr 2008, 21:02
I think Quiet Riot are there because Randy Rhoads was with them for a little bit of time and he is quite frankly amazing.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Apr 2008, 21:03
Ah, I see. Still, members of bands on there were in BOC, and they aren't on there, so that doesn't fit. I think there is just bias in selection.

edit: I wish I could be anywhere near as good at guitar as Don Anderson is, it is one thing to be able to play fast, most anyone can do it after enough practice, but playing well and beautifully is different.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
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Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Apr 2008, 21:17
When short men attack Pt. II?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 03 Apr 2008, 21:29
Am I taking this thread too seriously if I use it to plug my 7-album Mediafire thread doom metal upload post?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 03 Apr 2008, 21:34
I was quite disappointed, I had most of that post. Didn't have the last one though, downloading now.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: RobbieOC on 04 Apr 2008, 00:04
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Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: B.C. on 04 Apr 2008, 01:46
The new In Flames album is pretty under whelming guys.
Maybe one or two really exemplary tracks and the rest are recycled riffs. While I do not expect them to return to the Colony/Clayman era, this CD is almost as bad as Soundtrack to your Escape.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Apr 2008, 08:30
The last like four In Flames albums have been amazingly bad, not just this latest one.


And screw you guys. 3ioB.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: rynne on 04 Apr 2008, 08:44
- Metal Anyboy? (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,18147.0.html)
- A recommendation thread about black metal! (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19241.0.html)
- metal suggestions? (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,12520.0.html)
- Anyone else out there like metal that isn't mainstrem? (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,4093.0.html)
- Need Black/Death/Melodic Death metal reccomendations. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,14602.0.html)
- That's some tasty metal. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,15341.0.html)
- metal (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,15828.0.html)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Albatron on 04 Apr 2008, 08:48
Some of my favorite metal

Iron Maiden
Dragonforce
Iced Earth
Dream Theater
Helloween
Hammerfall
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 04 Apr 2008, 09:33
Some of my favorite metal

Iron Maiden
Dragonforce
Iced Earth
Dream Theater
Helloween
Hammerfall

So basically you have no balls.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: suitupletsgo on 04 Apr 2008, 10:16
Some of my favorite metal

Iron Maiden
Dragonforce
Iced Earth
Dream Theater
Helloween
Hammerfall

So basically you have no balls.

hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Lummer on 04 Apr 2008, 12:40
Alex, have I told you lately that I love you?!

Oh, and listen to High On Fire.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: B.C. on 04 Apr 2008, 13:07
The last like four In Flames albums have been amazingly bad, not just this latest one.


And screw you guys. 3ioB.

So I take it you're a Whoracle/Colony/Clayman fan right?

That is indeed their best era and they've steadily gone down hill from there, but c'mon Reroute to Remain isn't as bad as people make it out to be!

Also 3 Inches of Blood is amazing and I am giving you so many internet high fives. It's like someone took Iron Maiden and made them even more awesome.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 04 Apr 2008, 14:11
Dude, Anal Cunt.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 04 Apr 2008, 14:14
Iron Maiden have plenty of balls. Anyone who disagrees is looking for a fight. Also, 3IoB are fun, but they're not IRON FUCKING MAIDEN. Jeez. Kids these days. You are on the slippery slope towards comparing Trivium to Judas Priest and liking St. Anger.

Also, just because a band dressed up in the hair metal fashion doesn't necessarily mean they ain't metal. There's a big difference between 'Talk Dirty to Me'  and 'Burn in Hell'.

Also, seriously, In Flames? Does anyone still give a shit about them? They are by far the most boring gothenburg/MDM band. You'd do better with Edge of Sanity, Darkane, At The Gates and old Arch Enemy and Dark Tranquillity if you like music in that mode. Albums such as Purgatory Afterglow, Slaughter of the Soul, Rusted Angel, Burning Bridges and The Gallery piss all over anything In Flames has ever done.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: B.C. on 04 Apr 2008, 14:23
No they're not Iron Maiden, but their vocal stylings have been compared to early Maiden and for the sake of simplifying the discussion I compared them to a more recognized band. Though I was wrong in stating that 3 Inches of Blood is more awesome than Maiden.

And yes people still give a shit about In Flames. While there are better groups out there, such as the many you stated, In Flames just released a new album so I figured it would be a decent topic of discussion.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 04 Apr 2008, 14:38
No, no one cares about In Flames anymore.  They had Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance, and everything else was piss.  Other, better bands have release new albums recently, so that's why we're not talking about them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: amok on 04 Apr 2008, 14:40
Colony was pretty slick.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: cabose on 04 Apr 2008, 14:42
St. Anger is possibly the WORST song ever
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Apr 2008, 15:18
Also 3 Inches of Blood is amazing and I am giving you so many internet high fives. It's like someone took Iron Maiden and made them even more awesome.
I didn't like the 3 Inches of Blood that I heard, on the page for the company that make their amps, it was like someone took Iron maiden and made them shitty. And gave them a stupid name.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 04 Apr 2008, 16:35
Alex, have I told you lately that I love you?!

No, but you have been eyeing my SG rather lustily. Maybe that counts. D:

Also, I have no idea why people still give a damn about In Flames. They were never really even that good to begin with. Most of the darker power metal bands are more musically interesting and instrumentally heavier, anyway, which reminds me that Gothernberg's melodic "death metal" may as well be called "extreme power metal". Where the hell is the actual death metal?

And guys if you want to listen to an actual death metal band that has a lot of melodic content, just listen to Amon Amarth.

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You are on the slippery slope towards comparing Trivium to Judas Priest

People already compare Trivium to thrash-era Metallica.

Actually on the subject of Trivium it would be interesting if they, for once, wrote a song of their own. I mean, technically they have three albums worth of original songs but they kind of sound like they're, for instance, The Four Horsemen Pt. 2 or A Less Progressive Take On Metallica In General and Let's Steal A Megadeth Song For Good Measure. They can clearly play their instruments and that's a step in the right direction for mainstream music.

Okay, upon further thinking even shitty metalcore is probably a step in the right direction, but what I'm really saying here is that I have no idea why the majority of the new thrash movement want to rape their influences so hard someone hold me please
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: orangepeas on 04 Apr 2008, 17:30
Cabose:

Evergrey
Arch Enemy
Blind Guardian
Opeth
Otep
After Forever
Nevermore
Lacuna Coil
and
my friend's in Obliviated
http://www.myspace.com/obliviated666 

If you want, I can send you some music.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Jonny_Columbine on 04 Apr 2008, 17:35
as a newcomer to this fourm, I am just going to  throw some bands I like out there from different branches of metal

slayer
ozzy
dethklok
amon armeth
Black label society
demons and wizards
disturbed
dope
GWAR
HIM
hatebreed
judas priest
king diamond
LORDI
Marilyn Manson
Pantera
rob zombie
sepeltura


the list goes on

Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: orangepeas on 04 Apr 2008, 17:39
as a newcomer to this fourm, I am just going to  throw some bands I like out there from different branches of metal

slayer
ozzy
dethklok
amon armeth
Black label society
demons and wizards
disturbed
dope
GWAR
HIM
hatebreed
judas priest
king diamond
LORDI
Marilyn Manson
Pantera
rob zombie
sepeltura


the list goes on



Nice, I really Amon Amarth and LORDI is awesome!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Gridgm on 04 Apr 2008, 18:15
Okay, upon further thinking even shitty metalcore is probably a step in the right direction, but what I'm really saying here is that I have no idea why the majority of the new thrash movement want to rape their influences so hard someone hold me please
oh come on the blackening was a step in the right direction
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 04 Apr 2008, 19:05
Yeah, but they'd already released Burn My Eyes, which is superior (mainly because they didn't try and be 'artistic'. Stop fucking around with soft breaks and stuff, Machine Head. You suck at it.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 05 Apr 2008, 00:18
METAL BANDS SHOULD NEVER EVER CHANGE, THEY SHOULD NEVER MAKE MONEY OR GET POPULAR AND ONLY I SHOULD EVER KNOW THAT THEY EXIST, ALL BANDS SHOULD GO BACK TO WHEN THEY MADE "GOOD" MUSIC AND NEVER CHANGE OR GROW MUSICALLY.  ANY BAND THAT HAS EVER DONE THIS IS BORING AND STUPID AND SHOULD GO AWAY, AND YOU SHOULD TOTALLY LISTEN TO THIS OTHER BAND THATS MUCH BETTER BECAUSE THEY MAKE THE SAME TEN SONGS ON EVERY ALBUM AND NEVER CHANGE ONE BIT.  I WILL ALSO APPLY STUPID AND ARBITRARY LABELS TO BANDS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE THEM SEEM DIFFERENT, AND THEN I CAN CALL PEOPLE STUPID FOR LISTENING TO THEM.



A side note: Metal Archives is run by hypocrites.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Apr 2008, 02:39
And the forums are a cesspool of idiots, but the reviews are useful.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Apr 2008, 05:21
Also, I have no idea why people still give a damn about In Flames. They were never really even that good to begin with. Most of the darker power metal bands are more musically interesting and instrumentally heavier, anyway, which reminds me that Gothernberg's melodic "death metal" may as well be called "extreme power metal". Where the hell is the actual death metal?

Extreme power metal would be something like Children of Bodom. Seriously, if you can't see what's Death Metal about At The Gates or Edge of Sanity, you need to get your ears cleaned and do a remedial summer course at the School of Metal.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 05 Apr 2008, 05:41
In Flames had more memorable melodies, vocals and was more accessible that the other big Gothenberg bands - that's why they were/are popular. It also delivered a form of Power Metal without the cheesiness and high pitched vocals.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 05 Apr 2008, 05:44
Electric wizard are great.

And real death metal... Death, morbid angel, obituary, suffocation, incantation, deicide, vader, malevolent creation. And as for good new bands, necrophagist, cryptopsy, and brain drill are the only ones I can think of.

Anyone like behold..The arctopus? They are pretty cool. A bit repetitive though. I think I got them from the mediafire thread here..
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Apr 2008, 06:23
That is way too American a list. Grave! Dismember! Unleashed! Carcass! Decapitated! Behemoth!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: voidSkipper on 05 Apr 2008, 07:57
Why do I hear so little Insomnium in this thread?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 05 Apr 2008, 08:08
That is way too American a list. Grave! Dismember! Unleashed! Carcass! Decapitated! Behemoth!

Whats wrong with American metal?  Nile! Dying Fetus! Cephalic Carnage!



And as for good new bands, necrophagist, cryptopsy, and brain drill are the only ones I can think of.

I dont know about you, but to me, the words "new band" is something that has been around for 4-5 years MAX, ie: 1-2 albums out.  Not "been around for 15+ years."

Cryptopsy - formed in 1992
Necrophagist - formed in 1992


Side note: saw Behemoth with Dimmu last night, got to talk to Nergal again briefly after the show, still one of the nicer guys out there, and not nearly as difficult to understand as Abbath and Horgh
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 05 Apr 2008, 10:21
I miss Cynic so bad it hurts.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 05 Apr 2008, 13:48
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Whats wrong with American metal?  Nile! Dying Fetus! Cephalic Carnage!

You pretty much nailed what exactly is wrong with american metal.

Carcass are cool..So are behemoth and decapitated (I was going to mention them..). As for cryptopsy and necrophagist, whoops. But necrophagist still only have 3 albums, right?

Are we not going to mention black metal? I think it would be best if we didn't.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Apr 2008, 13:52
Abbath will be mad if you don't mention him. And the "Your fly is down" trick isn't going to work.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: pinkpiche on 05 Apr 2008, 15:34
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Whats wrong with American metal?  Nile! Dying Fetus! Cephalic Carnage!

You pretty much nailed what exactly is wrong with american metal.

Are we not going to mention black metal? I think it would be best if we didn't.

I think you are the craziest person on this planet.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: sean on 05 Apr 2008, 15:37
burzum 4 lyfe.

oh shit!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Apr 2008, 16:01
Whats wrong with American metal?

That could take all night.

BBQ, you only don't want to mention black metal because it kicks the fucking shit out of death metal.

*Is listening to Transilvanian Hunger right now*

SOOOO PUUUUURE!

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I miss Cynic so bad it hurts.

They're playing Wacken.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 05 Apr 2008, 16:51
Death metal is pretty much the supreme form of extreme metal. Or thrash, even.

Just not black metal.

 :-D
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: sean on 05 Apr 2008, 16:55
But black metal is kvlt dude!

Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 05 Apr 2008, 16:57
Which is more or less what has held it back in the past.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 05 Apr 2008, 18:20
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I think you are the craziest person on this planet.

I take it you mean that in a bad way.

Oh, don't get me wrong guys...I love black metal. It is just so infested with poseurism and elitist bastards that I don't really wish to get into the position where I have to defend my obscure black metal collection.

Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: sean on 05 Apr 2008, 18:24
that I don't really wish to get into the position where I have to defend my obscure black metal collection.

I have no idea what you mean by this.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Apr 2008, 18:28
Like death metal has absolutely no elitism problems. Like most death metal bands are not poor clones of other death metal bands.

...
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 05 Apr 2008, 18:29
I've gotta admit, there is a way worse elitist problem with the Black Metal community.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Apr 2008, 18:31
To be honest, that's only really the troglodytes who infest the major internet forums. Most BM fans I've met in real life have been pretty sound.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Apr 2008, 18:33
Sturgeon, Khar, Sturgeon. It isn't just Death and Black, though I can't say I know any bands I really like out of either of those two genres.

I don't really differentiate by country that the band comes from, if they make good music, I like them, may be a few exceptions. We already have two metric asstons of genres, do we really need to define by country as well?

This is at Khar's post on death metal, he and spluff were inconsiderate and posted while I was typing.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 05 Apr 2008, 18:35
death metal has an incredible stupidity problem. Black metal has a stick-up-its-ass problem.

Doom metal is the way to go!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: karl gambolputty... on 05 Apr 2008, 18:55
Death Metal dials its phone like this: boop de boop beep boop, and Black Metal dials its phone like this: boop boop beep beep boop
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 05 Apr 2008, 18:57
Death metal's stupidity problem is all joke bands, man. I can't remember the last time I listened to a death metal song that wasn't about civil rights, politics, mortality (is there a band named "Mortality"? There should be), religion or psychology.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Alex C on 05 Apr 2008, 18:59
I'd contribute to this conversation, but I spent all afternoon listening to Monster Magnet, Sleep, and Kyuss again while partaking in substances commonly associated with the genre.

So I'm in a good place right now, but not a very informative place. Also, making this post cracked me up for some reason.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 05 Apr 2008, 20:52
Whats wrong with American metal?

That could take all night.

BBQ, you only don't want to mention black metal because it kicks the fucking shit out of death metal.

*Is listening to Transilvanian Hunger right now*

SOOOO PUUUUURE!

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I miss Cynic so bad it hurts.

They're playing Wacken.

This is why there shouldn't be so many metal threads.  Every one I post in, I found out about a fucking awesome show that I can't go to.  FUCK.  They were supposed to be at last year's Deathfest (a 30-minute drive from my house) and they pulled a month before.  They rarely play together anymore, and they skip the only show I can go to.  FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. 


Ive jus come bak from hittin my head on the wal.  Ths is why it hurt.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Apr 2008, 02:02
If it makes you feel any better, Atheist back in 2006 were shit.

Oh, no, wait, they weren't, they were FUCKING AWESOME.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 Apr 2008, 04:25
Fuck all you. My Black Metal band could beat up all your bands. Fuck!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 06 Apr 2008, 05:46
Atheist is essentially a collection of jazz musicians ripping out some death metal.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 06 Apr 2008, 08:24
If it makes you feel any better, Atheist back in 2006 were shit.

Oh, no, wait, they weren't, they were FUCKING AWESOME.

FUK OU
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 06 Apr 2008, 09:25
I love it, an elitist stance by someone claiming most BM fans arent elitist.

I listen to metal, if that metal happens to come from the US, or Canada, or Sweden, or Poland, or the Ukraine, or Portugal, or Russia, or the fucking Faroe Islands, I really dont give a shit, a good band is a good band.  OH TEH NOES I HAVE TASTES OUTSIDE OF SOME SMALL SUBSET OF A GENRE, so what if I listen to American death (Nile, Cephalic Carnage, and Dying Fetus), or that I listen to some hardcore (Pro-Pain), that I listen to folk metal (Arkona, Tyr), whatever, its all fucking metal.  Trying to tell me some bullshit about how american metal sucks, or isnt up to par with Europe or whatever the fuck IS AN ELITIST STANCE.  The rest of the world has shitty bands too, America isn't unique in that aspect, nor is every band from the States shit, merely because of their country of origin.  Congrats, you are one of the troglodytes you spoke of.  Hypocritical much?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 06 Apr 2008, 09:56
Nobody gives a shit if you listen to american death metal. I listen to american death metal. Try not to get so offended by some half-serious comments. I believe your post was aimed at KharBevNor; In case you didn't realize, he just said that an american band was 'fucking awesome' 5 posts above yours, so I find it quite hard to believe he is trying to tell you that all american bands are shit.

Anyways, isn't varg vikernes going to be out of jail soon?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2008, 10:02
Didn't he briefly escape at one point?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 06 Apr 2008, 10:12
Nobody gives a shit if you listen to american death metal. I listen to american death metal. Try not to get so offended by some half-serious comments. I believe your post was aimed at KharBevNor; In case you didn't realize, he just said that an american band was 'fucking awesome' 5 posts above yours, so I find it quite hard to believe he is trying to tell you that all american bands are shit.

Anyways, isn't varg vikernes going to be out of jail soon?

Noooo, it wasnt aimed at him AT ALL.  Thank you for your statement of the obvious.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 06 Apr 2008, 10:52
You actually ignored the whole point of my post, just to say a sarcastic remark? That's just stupid. This isn't even an argument anymore.

Yeah, he escaped in 2006, but then they caught him. He should be allowed to parole sometime soon though.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 06 Apr 2008, 11:59
Nobody gives a shit if you listen to american death metal. I listen to american death metal. Try not to get so offended by some half-serious comments. I believe your post was aimed at KharBevNor; In case you didn't realize, he just said that an american band was 'fucking awesome' 5 posts above yours, so I find it quite hard to believe he is trying to tell you that all american bands are shit.

Anyways, isn't varg vikernes going to be out of jail soon?

Noooo, it wasnt aimed at him AT ALL.  Thank you for your statement of the obvious.

Just relax, dude.  Sarcasm is all over the place on these boards, especially when it comes to metal, because of the dead-serious mentality it has with its fans and its contributors.  And after awhile, e-Dong competitions get boring so we occasionally poke fun.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 06 Apr 2008, 13:05
Yep, he escaped, stole a car, various supplies (GPS, map, that kinda stuff), a pistol, and an unloaded AG3 rifle. According to wikipedia, he escaped in 2003, though, he was denied parole in 2006. And he gets another chance this year. If I ever commit serious crimes, I need to make sure to do so in Norway.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 06 Apr 2008, 13:27
2003 then. My mistake.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Apr 2008, 13:49
In Norwegian terms, they threw the book at Varg. He got the maximum sentence allowable for an under 21 (he was 19 when he was convicted I believe, and I think under 18 when he did some of the crimes). He doesn't have to be released until 2015.

Also, lighten up dude, I wasn't saying American metal is all bad, but you guys have gotta take SOME flack for Cannibal Corpse and Metallica.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: thedavo on 06 Apr 2008, 14:11
anyone else heard the new Origin album Antithesis? it's brilliant. www.myspace.com/origin666

also, the two albums so far in virgin black's Requiem series, Mezzo Forte and Fortissimo i'm a huge fan of aswell, symphonic gothic death/doom stuff. i suck at genres. www.myspace.com/virginblackofficial .

if you like sludgy stuff, The Ocean's new album, Precambrian is pretty darn good aswell. www.theoceancollective.com .
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 06 Apr 2008, 14:30
Still, that is much less of a punishment than someone would get here. He would have had longer than that for killing someone, even before the arson convictions. And of course, stealing an illegal weapon from the government is not good for you either. I wouldn't want to be stuck in jail for 21 years, but it sure beats 25-life or being put to death.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 06 Apr 2008, 15:00
In Norwegian terms, they threw the book at Varg. He got the maximum sentence allowable for an under 21 (he was 19 when he was convicted I believe, and I think under 18 when he did some of the crimes). He doesn't have to be released until 2015.

Also, lighten up dude, I wasn't saying American metal is all bad, but you guys have gotta take SOME flack for Cannibal Corpse and Metallica.

Cannibal Corpse isnt so much the problem (IMO) as the bajillion of Immolation clones that exist (or rather did), and I take absolutely no fucking credit for St. Anger one bit.  (Being a blues fan, I did enjoy Load / Re-Load, with the prominent exception of Unforgiven II, which I thought was terrible)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 06 Apr 2008, 15:31
Immolation are American, are they not?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: madfast5000 on 06 Apr 2008, 15:34
I like a couple metal bands. Ensiferum is the best though, they sound like classical folk metal or something. but theyre awesome
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 Apr 2008, 20:15
You should all be listening to Alchemist.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Apr 2008, 10:17
I did enjoy Load / Re-Load

...wait, WHAT?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Apr 2008, 12:48
Load and reload to me seemed like good ideas with bad execution. That is just from what I have heard off of them, I haven't listened to them all the way through. The songs weren't well-made, there is nothing wrong with the style of music, they just wrote shittily for it.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 07 Apr 2008, 13:06
Immolation are American, are they not?

Yes, they are, but that wasnt really the point, Cannibal Corpse did spawn a lot of imitators, for sure, but at least they spawned imitators that could play notes on their instruments.  In the 90s, it seemed like Immolation clones were everywhere, many of the local bands here in Baltimore that called themselves death metal, were merely a bunch of guys with half-octave downtuning who played three notes and grunted for 4 and a half minutes and called it a song.

I did enjoy Load / Re-Load

...wait, WHAT?

Thanks for reading the whole sentence.  If you notice, I said I enjoy listening to the blues, Load and ReLoad were heavily blues influenced in their sound, so I found something I liked in them.  OH NOES I LIKED THEIR ALBUMS (with the exception of that one song).

Was it the "same" as Metallica of days past?  No, not really.  But then, Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets werent the same as Kill Em All, Justice wasnt the same as Ride or Puppets, and the Black Album was different from everything previous too.

Seriously, is it so hard to accept that bands change and grow up?  That the musicians, listening to other types of music might have an impact on where they go with their sound?  What era would you prefer their sound to stay at?  Kill Em All?  Ride and Puppets?  Justice?  Black Album?  Not every band can be Hatebreed and release the same 12 songs on every single album for 15 years.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Apr 2008, 13:17
Statik, you listen to Down or CoC? Those both have a good amount of blues in them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 07 Apr 2008, 13:41
I love Down, I unfortunantly missed them the last time they came through Baltimore

CoC (I assume you mean Corrosion of Conformity) Im not that big on, but from what of theirs Ive heard, its not bad music, just me being picky.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Apr 2008, 13:51
Yeah, that is who I meant. I haven't seen either of them live, as I only discovered them not even six months ago.

I really like the In the Arms of God album CoC has out, have you heard that one? I think it has to be the best one they put out, not sure how I would rate it in comparison to donw, though.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: thedavo on 07 Apr 2008, 14:28
i'm seeing down on wednesday. quite looking forward to it. i've only just started getting into them, i bought over the under on a whim and i like it. hopefully phil won't be as drunk/stoned as last time.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 07 Apr 2008, 18:13
I have absolutely no objection to bands evolving and changing their style. A lot of my favourite bands, both inside and outside of metal, changed drastically over the years, or did experiments in other genres: Ulver, Skyclad, Burzum, Coil, Current 93, Death in June, Ewigkeit, Borknagar, Swans: all bands where you couldn't really imagine the last album from listening to the first.

No, what I object to, specifically, is bands just becoming shit. Metallica didn't evolve. They ran out of ideas and energy.

Also, statik, I'll begrudge you your point. If DM bands were going to talentlessly copy anyone though, I'd rather they stuck to Carcass.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 07 Apr 2008, 18:33
I have absolutely no objection to bands evolving and changing their style. A lot of my favourite bands, both inside and outside of metal, changed drastically over the years, or did experiments in other genres: Ulver, Skyclad, Burzum, Coil, Current 93, Death in June, Ewigkeit, Borknagar, Swans: all bands where you couldn't really imagine the last album from listening to the first.
I wonder if "Opeth" can classify as a change, they went form outright Death Metal into a Melodic band (Their recent album Ghost Reveries a love child of Damnation and Deliverance.)

So just to provide, heres a list of some "Labelled" metal songs, over a small variety, enjoy.

Death metal
Torture killer  -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwt72dWQQEY&feature=related
and
Bolt thrower -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJwXpNlsn8

Simple heavy riffs Drop D and Drop C respectively, quite easy to copy if you can pick out the riffs.

Melodic/ Gothic metal.
Orphaned land -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQGd10MzDv8
Draconian -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAO6qMqjFNs
Inmost Ego - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=255109937

Doom Metal
My Dying Bride - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIAWRoHqUK8
Assorted, but bloody awesome - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1-TiY3sCws

Power metal
Lost Horizon -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcQSs91usK8

Drinking metal
Korpiklaani -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZhkLUcKT8

Spongebob metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nroPEgVEcGo

Alright I'll stop.

Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 07 Apr 2008, 19:06
You forgot Lawnmower metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tHy5wnvsm4).

Also, if you were going to dub anything 'Drinking Metal' I would choose Tankard.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 07 Apr 2008, 20:04
Troll Metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpDo0BdC2SU)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 07 Apr 2008, 20:21
Man, there was a whole thread talking about all the random ass genres we didn't think existed, and Khar found a band for almost all of them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 07 Apr 2008, 20:26
Well, technically Finntroll would probably fall under the "Folk Metal" category of such things, but whatever.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 07 Apr 2008, 20:57
Yeah, and Tankard and Lawnmower Deth are both thrash, but making up silly genres is infinitely more fun.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Apr 2008, 21:57
Bike metal. Not biker metal, bike. Like bicycle. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=168007881
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 08 Apr 2008, 06:26
Yeah, and Tankard and Lawnmower Deth are both thrash, but making up silly genres is infinitely more fun.

I think we...

*Just gets to the freaky bit on Lawnmowerdeth*

THATS A GWAR!... Awesome I approve.

Latex Suit Metal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWoAXXbzFBg

There is something.. disturbing about GWAR but, addictive, I mean they don't take themselves AT ALL seriously, which is probably why I like them. (Walk around Central perk in latex outfits, playing basketball with jesus and giving food poisoning to hundreds of fans...).

Oh, how about I set a challenge then, who can find a band that goes under this name.

"Lollypop metal!"
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2008, 07:39
Lollypop Metal I can't do...but I once labeled a noise track I was working on as "ambient black metal".
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: CursedMortivore on 08 Apr 2008, 08:12
My metal listening career just started recently with the television show "Metalocalypse" when the awesomeness of the sound of metal was introduced to me in a consumer friendly package. Before then I just usually listened to stuff that I heard on the radio. Stuff like System of a Down, Coldplay, David Bowie, Gorillaz, and other such stuff. A pretty eclectic mix of stuff, but it was starting to to get stale. A friend of mine had a hard drive with a large amount of music on it, and a lot of it turned out to be metal. I proceeded to rip everything and go through and sort it.

Here's the stuff I turned up with:
As I Lay Dying (Heard them before, like them well enough)
The Black Dahlia Murder (Don't think I'm into that)
Children of Bodom (Listening to it right now, it's pretty awesome)
Chimaira
Coal Chamber
Cradle of Filth (Don't know if they count)
Damage Plan
Death Angel
Dethklok (They may be just for a show, but damn if I don't enjoy their music)
Drowning Pool
Fear Factory
Iced Earth
In Flames (Listened to a little of this, don't think I like it)
Lamb of God
Pantera
Slayer (Ungodly amounts of it, too)
Stabbing Westward
Type O Negative
Unearth (Listened and Enjoyed muchly)

So, do you guys have anything to suggest to further expand my learnings?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2008, 08:20
Amon Amarth and Borknagar, man.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 08 Apr 2008, 08:59
Well heh I am at the moment making music thats ambient but really really doomy.

So if you have any commisions i'll gladly take them on board  :evil:.

Actually I had one commision succesfully completed today :mrgreen:

In light of that im just listening to my own Dark metal/ambience. I love listenign to my own music, its like mental masturbation.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 08 Apr 2008, 17:16
Cursed: Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Testament. Testament is the most similar thrash band I can think of to death angel, and the other three are just required listening.

edit: Oh, and am I right in assuming that at least some people here like Katatonia? I have only heard Brave Murder Day and Discouraged Ones, but I really like them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: CursedMortivore on 08 Apr 2008, 20:54
I'll get on downloading those bands. I actually think there was some Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Judas Priest on that hard drive I ripped from, so I can go back and grab those.

And I've been meaning to pick up some Amon Amarth because I've heard good stuff about them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 08 Apr 2008, 21:00
Amon Amarth is one of the better "viking metal" bands.  I would reccomend "Fate of Norns" and "With Oden on our Side" if you want a newer, more produced sound (plus the songs are fuckin amazing, so that helps)

As far as Katatonia, Ive listened to them, I have even seen them once, but I could never really get in to them all that much. 
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 08 Apr 2008, 21:08
Go for any of the first four albums for Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master of Reality, Vol. 4), not sure what to recommend for Judas Priest, I like Screaming For Vengeance personally, but I don't have much from them. Iron maiden I would go with Number of the beast, Powerslave, Piece of mind, or Fear of the Dark. I have only heard Death Angel's two most recent albums, The Art of Dying and Killing season.

Katatonia-wise, I don't like them as much as Agalloch, but you can really see the influence of the former on the latter, and the song "Day" is just awesome, the melancholy feel is overpowering.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 08 Apr 2008, 21:49
Yeah, I think at the time I had a hard time getting in to them when I was already running Opeth, Moonspell, Sentenced, Tiamat, and Theatre of Tragedy in heavy rotation on my CD players.  I just didnt want another "depressing" band at the time I suppose.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 08 Apr 2008, 22:08
Ah, yes, I see what you mean. I actualy usually tend to listen to them when I am going to sleep, the depressing metal drops me right off.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 09 Apr 2008, 00:17
Alchemist
Khold
Incantation
Emperor
Zyklon
Naxul
Ackecocke
Astriaal
Arcturus
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 09 Apr 2008, 02:21
Another thrash recommendation for Cursed, try Overkill, especially The Years of Decay and Under the Influence. Horrorscope is also awesome, but it is slower.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 09 Apr 2008, 05:37
Needs more Turisas.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Uber Ritter on 09 Apr 2008, 08:52
In order to defuse any past or present death/black metal conflicts, can we all just agree on one thing?

Dissection.
Circa Storm of Light's Bane.

Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Apr 2008, 13:06
Yes. Yes we can.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: bbq on 09 Apr 2008, 13:59
Damn, what is everyones definition of black metal? Some people define it as 'metal with viking lyrics', whilst some define it as 'black metal with folk influences from that part of the world'.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 09 Apr 2008, 14:33
I don't think lyrical content is the most important part.  AFAIK, the two things all BM bands have in common is tremolo picking and blast beats.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: thehollow on 09 Apr 2008, 15:12
I'm not a really a big metal fan by any means so I'm in no way the authority on what's good and such, but recently I've been listening to a good amount of Meshuggah. The new album's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Apr 2008, 18:58
Damn, what is everyones definition of black metal? Some people define it as 'metal with viking lyrics', whilst some define it as 'black metal with folk influences from that part of the world'.

I take it you meant viking metal by the first post...

Yeah, I've always had a problem with calling Amon Amarth 'Viking Metal' as to me that suggests Bathory, Moonsorrow, Falkenbach, Tyr, Forefather, Einherjer, Windir, Folkearth, Glittertind, Kampfar, Enslaved, Mithotyn... A pretty diverse range, but as a death metal group Amon Amarth really does stick out like a sore thumb.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 09 Apr 2008, 20:33
Viking Metal seems to have no real basis in a style of music.  Merely something that describes what they will be singing (growling) about.

Folk metal, however, does imply a certain style, or at the very least you can "expect" certain things from it. 

Same with black metal, death metal (although death metal has become incredibly diverse in the past ten years in its own right), etc.


There is no band that defines "viking metal" as it isnt truly a genre.

Wait, scratch that.  TYR is the embodiment of "Viking Metal" and while many other bands can rightfully be called "viking metal" for playing heavy metal and singing about viking escapades.  IMO, Tyr is nothing else.  Amon Amarth, Viking Death Metal.  Folkearth: Viking Folk Metal.  And so on and so forth.  It helps that Tyr is forged of awsome by the hammer of excellence (and Thor).
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 09 Apr 2008, 21:01
Needs more Turisas. (http://www.myspace.com/turisasofficial)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Apr 2008, 23:32
There is no band that defines "viking metal" as it isnt truly a genre.


UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 09 Apr 2008, 23:53

As I Lay Dying (Heard them before, like them well enough)
The Black Dahlia Murder (Don't think I'm into that)
Children of Bodom (Listening to it right now, it's pretty awesome)
Chimaira
Coal Chamber
Cradle of Filth (Don't know if they count)
Damage Plan
Death Angel
Dethklok (They may be just for a show, but damn if I don't enjoy their music)
Drowning Pool
Fear Factory
Iced Earth
In Flames (Listened to a little of this, don't think I like it)
Lamb of God
Pantera
Slayer (Ungodly amounts of it, too)
Stabbing Westward
Type O Negative
Unearth (Listened and Enjoyed muchly)

Probably the best bands on that list.

In any case, try some:

Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Motorhead
Blind Guardian
Symphony X
Megadeth
Metallica
Death
Necrophagist
Amon Amarth
Strapping Young Lad
Dark Angel
Sadus
Heathen
Galneryus
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Apr 2008, 00:52
WOAH

WOAH

I think you just implied that Pantera was better than Death Angel.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY AGAIN?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 10 Apr 2008, 02:05
[EDIT - After revisiting Death Angel, I was wrong.]
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 10 Apr 2008, 02:14
WOAH

WOAH

I think you just implied that Pantera was better than Death Angel.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY AGAIN?

I think the real issue here is that I implied Children Of Bodom are better than Death Angel.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Apr 2008, 04:33
Yeah... And Lamb of God. Maybe I have just heard their shitty stuff, but seriously. Omerta. How could you say that Death angel and TON are worse than both of those?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Apr 2008, 10:35
I can understand subjective opinions about CoB and ToN.

But Pantera > Death Angel is just objectively wrong.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 10 Apr 2008, 15:16
I like N'Sync, Backstreet boys, 98degrees, Five, and Aaron Carter!

The joke here is that these bands are not metal at all

Incredibly hilarious
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Statik on 10 Apr 2008, 21:13
There is no band that defines "viking metal" as it isnt truly a genre.


UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs)

One: Tyr takes the win for defining "pure" viking metal.  Bathory, no matter how awsome, does not.

Two: I forgot what my second point was...  Im drunk, whatever.  Refer to point one.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 11 Apr 2008, 00:19
I can understand subjective opinions about CoB and ToN.

But Pantera > Death Angel is just objectively wrong.

Not that it matters - Blind Guardian kicks the everliving shit out of both of them*.



*May or may not be biased due to sexual attraction towards Hansi Kursch
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 11 Apr 2008, 01:20
listen to THOLUS, fools!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Dimmukane on 11 Apr 2008, 13:25
There is no band that defines "viking metal" as it isnt truly a genre.


UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs)

One: Tyr takes the win for defining "pure" viking metal.  Bathory, no matter how awsome, does not.

Two: I forgot what my second point was...  Im drunk, whatever.  Refer to point one.
Needs more Turisas. (http://www.myspace.com/turisasofficial)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 11 Apr 2008, 15:06
One: Tyr takes the win for defining "pure" viking metal.  Bathory, no matter how awsome, does not.

So what, inventing a whole genre is not good enough now?

Tyr are following Bathory's legacy, no matter what. Also, Moonsorrow. Also,

HAIL QUORTHON!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Turtle on 11 Apr 2008, 20:03
This seems like the best place to ask this question:
(Keep in mind, before reading the question, this is not a "I know this band and no one else does that makes me cool" question)

Has anyone listened to Kreator?
I never see Kreator on anyone's damn lists of metal bands. I was introduced to them a few years back and they're a ****ing kickass band, but other than the person who introduced them to me, I have yet to talk to someone who's heard of them.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 11 Apr 2008, 20:05
I love German Thrash. Kreator are pretty damn fine.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 11 Apr 2008, 22:02
I don't listen to them actively, but I do like them when they come up on pandora, they seem to have some power metal influences as well, is that just me?
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 12 Apr 2008, 04:59
I don't listen to them actively, but I do like them when they come up on pandora

I used to listen to pandora a lot, problem was it started advertising between songs and it gave you very limited skips. Also it gave you very very strange results, I typed in Cannibal Corpse I got Robie Williams....
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Turtle on 12 Apr 2008, 08:38
I used to listen to pandora a lot, problem was it started advertising between songs and it gave you very limited skips. Also it gave you very very strange results, I typed in Cannibal Corpse I got Robie Williams....
The limited skips thing is what really killed it for me. Even when I'm listening to my own collection of music, I skip a lot. If I'm not feeling a song, I'll skip until something jumps out to me. Having 5 skips an hour does not bode well.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Der Turm, der Leute frass on 12 Apr 2008, 09:05
go and listen to the spiral architect and Ephel Duath albums I uploaded in the mediafire Thread!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: CursedMortivore on 13 Apr 2008, 09:51
Fellow Metalocalypse/Dethklok lovers out there:

Keep an eye out for tour dates near you. Dethklok is doing a new tour with Chimaira and Soilent Green. It looks to be 27 shows right now.

Got this information from a blog posted on their MySpace, so if you have it, you can the actual tour dates and locations there.

Dethklok Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/dethklok)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 13 Apr 2008, 15:40
I don't listen to them actively, but I do like them when they come up on pandora

I used to listen to pandora a lot, problem was it started advertising between songs and it gave you very limited skips. Also it gave you very very strange results, I typed in Cannibal Corpse I got Robie Williams....
Advertisement between songs? I only notice them advertising that pandora music-fest thing, and that is just when you switch to a new channel, the only other advertisements are the ones around the actual player. I don't tend to skip much at all, just the more odious nu-metal and the very rare rap songs mixed in with my doom metal. I tend to listen to music as background for something else, I don't just sit down and listen to music.

How many metal bands have been named after Sabbath songs, do you think? Just wondering based on Spiral Architect, and I know of at least one other, name is at the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of it.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 13 Apr 2008, 18:01
Advertisement between songs? I only notice them advertising that pandora music-fest thing, and that is just when you switch to a new channel, the only other advertisements are the ones around the actual player. I don't tend to skip much at all, just the more odious nu-metal and the very rare rap songs mixed in with my doom metal. I tend to listen to music as background for something else, I don't just sit down and listen to music.

How many metal bands have been named after Sabbath songs, do you think? Just wondering based on Spiral Architect, and I know of at least one other, name is at the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of it.

To be backwards, and answer the last question first, oh I agree probably mindless amounts, and to continue, by meaning cannibal corpse I would get some insane death metal and doom metal songs, just I would randomly get Robbie williams I got several of his songs and one spice girl song within 4 hours.

Also I find it nice to meet a like-minded soul regarding music, althouhg sometimes I listen to music to send me to sleep (Slow doom metal does me wonders), I find it quite relaxing but stimulating, it maintains my focus on topics. My friends disagree, they usually look at me and wonder how I can focus with someone screaming "Multiple counts of murder" in my ears.

Just as an extension, has anyone heard EVE online's 'Drone mission' music, just it is pretty rock/metal and i'm wondering where I could find it in my files.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: SugaRush on 14 Apr 2008, 10:28
I quite liked Nightwish before the singer went kapooh.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: mediumrare on 14 Apr 2008, 12:20
I like N'Sync, Backstreet boys, 98degrees, Five, and Aaron Carter!

The joke here is that these bands are not metal at all

Incredibly hilarious

80% right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMZp-_4yjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiMZp-_4yjU)
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: tomselleck69 on 18 Apr 2008, 13:46
I ain't too knowledgeable about folk metal, no sir. If anyone can recommend me something similar to Korpiklaani, I would be grateful. BRUTALLY grateful.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 18 Apr 2008, 15:37
I don't know much about it either, but I know that when the topic comes up, Skyclad is almost always recommended.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 18 Apr 2008, 17:12
I ain't too knowledgeable about folk metal, no sir. If anyone can recommend me something similar to Korpiklaani, I would be grateful. BRUTALLY grateful.

"Flogging Molly"   and     "Against ME!"  Both quite similar to korpiklaani, not as up-beat or celtic but pretty good.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 18 Apr 2008, 17:18
Whatever you do, don't listen to Searching For A Former Clarity or anything else recorded by Against Me! after that. I would also advise not reading any interviews with them, or reviews of their albums, or anything else which would admit of the existence of the current state of the band. Reinventing Axl Rose, that acoustic ep and As The Eternal Cowboy are great but their later offenses have spoiled even these records for me. Oh, it's probably worth noting that they're definitely not folk metal, I've never heard Korpiklaani though so they might sound similar nonetheless.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 18 Apr 2008, 17:27
I've never heard Korpiklaani though so they might sound similar nonetheless.

Probably to sum it up as short as possible, they make wonderful drinking music. (eg. Beer Beer, Wooden Pints, Hunting Song, Happy little Boozer are some of their songs) I decided on the two stated earlier because they seem to be similar in the fact they make me want to go drink.

Edit: Editting here because I don't want to spam the thread. Again im linking punk to korpiklaani because they both make me want to drink.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Gridgm on 18 Apr 2008, 17:32
I ain't too knowledgeable about folk metal, no sir. If anyone can recommend me something similar to Korpiklaani, I would be grateful. BRUTALLY grateful.

"Flogging Molly"   and     "Against ME!"  Both quite similar to korpiklaani, not as up-beat or celtic but pretty good.

um...i'm sure the bands you actually brought up there were Die Apokalyptischen Reiter, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Skyclad and Turisas because people recomending punk to korpiklaani may need to be shot and i wouldn't want to have to do that
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: a pack of wolves on 18 Apr 2008, 17:38
I think they went about it a good way, recommending things based on the feeling they create for them rather than the specific genre. After all, genre isn't always a big deal.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Siert on 18 Apr 2008, 17:49
um...i'm sure the bands you actually brought up there were Die Apokalyptischen Reiter, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Skyclad and Turisas

Well I mean im no expert on every song from all those bands but don't the majority of them Cookie monster /scream? Every song i've listened to of Korpiklaani its clean vocals (A bit gruff, but clean), so I would of thought they would be more in common with a bit of punk. Also to stretch a point further.

Man Of War, Hammerfall, Kamelot. they make me want to go drinking too. Not really much in common with Korpiklaani but some songs have similarities.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 18 Apr 2008, 17:57
When I read Ensiferum, I couldn't remember if I had anything from them in my library,  when I checked, I noticed that I didn't, but I did have a couple of Empyrium albums in there, try that for folk metal. Later on they are more just neofolk, I guess, I don't listen to them too much, but I did like what I heard.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: tomselleck69 on 18 Apr 2008, 18:20
I don't know much about it either, but I know that when the topic comes up, Skyclad is almost always recommended.
Thanks

"Flogging Molly"   and     "Against ME!"  Both quite similar to korpiklaani, not as up-beat or celtic but pretty good.
Don't really like Against ME! Flogging Molly's alright but my go-to band for raucous Celtic stuff is The Pogues.

um...i'm sure the bands you actually brought up there were Die Apokalyptischen Reiter, Ensiferum, Finntroll, Skyclad and Turisas because people recomending punk to korpiklaani may need to be shot and i wouldn't want to have to do that
Thank you.

Well I mean im no expert on every song from all those bands but don't the majority of them Cookie monster /scream? Every song i've listened to of Korpiklaani its clean vocals (A bit gruff, but clean), so I would of thought they would be more in common with a bit of punk. Also to stretch a point further.

Man Of War, Hammerfall, Kamelot. they make me want to go drinking too. Not really much in common with Korpiklaani but some songs have similarities.
Yeah the vocals are one of the salient things here. Cookie monster is fine, but what I'm really looking for is a similar, cleaner growl. Also, those are all bands I enjoy, but not for the same reason as Korpiklaani.

When I read Ensiferum, I couldn't remember if I had anything from them in my library,  when I checked, I noticed that I didn't, but I did have a couple of Empyrium albums in there, try that for folk metal. Later on they are more just neofolk, I guess, I don't listen to them too much, but I did like what I heard.
Will do. Thanks!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 19 Apr 2008, 04:19
The band most similiar to Korpiklaani is probably Finntroll. Ensiferum, Glittertind, Turisas, Waylander (first album) and Folkearth are also reasonably good bets.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 19 Apr 2008, 05:17
I quite liked Nightwish before the singer went kapooh.

They should just let the guitarist sing.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Thaes on 19 Apr 2008, 05:22
I reckon it could upset some people if they turned from a band with a female vocalist into one with a male vocalist.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 19 Apr 2008, 05:33
But there are a bajaxjzzillion projects with female vox and distorted guitars that are less epic than Nightwish, but at least don't pretend to be metal.

I'll admit that some of the stuff leaning towards an operatic approach was quite intruiging, but on the rare occasion that the guitarist sang, he blew me away with the pure metal in his voice. If he sang, Nightwish would be less of metal's answer to womanpop and more metal's answer to nothing in particular because it would be so fucking metal.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Thaes on 19 Apr 2008, 05:36
I agree that it would be far better a band with the guitarist singing, but I believe they were mostly thinking about their existing fans when they got themselves a new female singer after Turunen left the band.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 19 Apr 2008, 05:37
It'd be pretty cool if she went all Angela Gossow on our asses.

Nightwish would suddenly become good.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Caspian on 19 Apr 2008, 06:51
It'd be pretty cool if she went all Angela Gossow on our asses.

Nightwish would become even worse then before.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 19 Apr 2008, 09:59
I quite liked Nightwish before the singer went kapooh.

They should just let the guitarist sing.
Wait... guitarist or bassist? I have heard the bassist sing, but not the guitarist. The bassist's vocals are very metal though.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Thaes on 19 Apr 2008, 10:05
Ah yes, you are indeed correct. Itīs the basist who sings, not the guitarist.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: diablo_man on 19 Apr 2008, 10:20

And guys if you want to listen to an actual death metal band that has a lot of melodic content, just listen to Amon Amarth.


you are awesome!

seriously amon amarth is one of the better melodic DM bands. they have an un mistakeably kickass, unique rhythm section. not so many solos, but what are there are great. mostly though, i listen to them for their drummer, fredrik akkesson, i think is the name. check out the song "death in fire" to hear all that i am talking about. the singer has a great voice, in tha you can pick out nearly all that he is saying (not just "grug grug glrahahaggh!!!") and its always about some viking lore

cant go wrong!
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 19 Apr 2008, 10:31
I haven't listened to them, really. I haven't really heard any DM that has grabbed me, I have liked a lot more thrash and doom. I heard that their drumming was just pretty typical double-bass drumming.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: diablo_man on 19 Apr 2008, 10:38
naw, amons drummer is pretty awesome. seriously, almost never typical double bass stuff and very rarely a blastbeat. its really inventive stuff if you listen to it
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: MadassAlex on 19 Apr 2008, 20:23
seriously amon amarth is one of the better melodic DM bands. they have an un mistakeably kickass, unique rhythm section. not so many solos, but what are there are great. mostly though, i listen to them for their drummer, fredrik akkesson, i think is the name. check out the song "death in fire" to hear all that i am talking about. the singer has a great voice, in tha you can pick out nearly all that he is saying (not just "grug grug glrahahaggh!!!") and its always about some viking lore

cant go wrong!

Asator basically has the best death metal chorus ever.

"FIRE!!! Burning IN THE SKIIIEEES! /tremolo picking \m/
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 19 Apr 2008, 21:00
Amon Amarth is great if you don't mind overuse of tremolo picking.

As far as MDM goes, I'll take Kalmah anyday - the black waltz was ridiculously good.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 20 Apr 2008, 02:28
Five best MDM albums in order:

(http://www.muzdb.info/images/albums/3535.jpg)

(http://www.baranen.com/images/Edge%20Of%20Sanity%20-%20Crimson.jpg)

(http://www.baranen.com/images/Edge%20Of%20Sanity%20-%20Crimson%20II.jpg)

(http://www.metallibrary.ru/bands/discographies/images/edge_of_sanity/pictures/93_the_spectral_sorrows.jpg)

(http://static.metal-archives.com/images/4/7/5/475.jpg)

And stop ragging on Gossow, she knocks most modern DM singers into a cocked hat, melodic or no.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Caspian on 20 Apr 2008, 02:41
Edge of Sanity are a pretty excellent band.

Good to see there was no mention of In Flames, as well :D
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Spluff on 20 Apr 2008, 03:15
That reminds me, I really need to get Crimson II.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: Nodaisho on 20 Apr 2008, 15:58
seriously amon amarth is one of the better melodic DM bands. they have an un mistakeably kickass, unique rhythm section. not so many solos, but what are there are great. mostly though, i listen to them for their drummer, fredrik akkesson, i think is the name. check out the song "death in fire" to hear all that i am talking about. the singer has a great voice, in tha you can pick out nearly all that he is saying (not just "grug grug glrahahaggh!!!") and its always about some viking lore

cant go wrong!

Asator basically has the best death metal chorus ever.

"FIRE!!! Burning IN THE SKIIIEEES! /tremolo picking \m/
They so stole that from Deep Purple.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: KharBevNor on 21 Apr 2008, 01:07
Also, that's not even Amon Amarth's best chorus.
Title: Re: Any metal lovers out there?
Post by: diablo_man on 21 Apr 2008, 09:23
yeah, id say the chorus from "across the rainbow bridge" is their best one.
just my opinion