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Fun Stuff => CHATTER => Topic started by: bachelorchow on 03 Apr 2008, 20:36
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stupid topic
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DONGZLOL
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Fuck, fucking, fuckknuckle, fuckstick, fucker, cunting, dickface and querulous.
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My first name :cry:
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Same here, Jeph. Who knew Lydia was such an uncommon name? I say we petition the phone programmers!
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That's some progressive cunt right there, Jimmy.
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My phone somehow, inexplicably, knows when I want to say 'of' and when I want to say 'me', and will give me the wrong one every time.
It also refuses to acknowledge "shan't"
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i added Fuck with a capital f, and now whenever I want to put it in the middle of a sentence that comes up, ruining my grammatically correct sms. it annoys me :-(
Holy crap, you said SMS. That's real wireless industry lingo.
T9 is a pain in the ass. I tried to use it once or twice and then realized that I spent more time fighting to get the words I actually wanted than I would have spent just punching in the letters. It's probably because I refuse to abbreviate myself and T9 doesn't recognize real words. I also cuss a lot and it doesn't like those words either.
I send a maximum of 10 texts a month, almost always in response to someone else's text message, so any time savings either way doesn't make much of a difference.
Man, being in this thread just made me remember how much I hate cell phones.
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I just type it in with the buttons, you know, hitting once for the first letter shown, twice for the second, three for the third, four for the number (three for the number sometimes, depending on key), what the hell are you doing?
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I think I've sent all of maybe 20 texts in the 4 years I've had my phone. I did use texting a bit more frequently when I was living in europe, though. T9 is pretty handy, and although I curse a lot in my normal speech, I make do with cursing less when texting.
And while we're bitching about cell phones, a couple things that piss me off:
I'll call my roommate and leave him a message saying something specific, and not necessarily something that involves calling me back. Regardless, he'll call me back later and say "what'd you call for?" and never bothered to listen to my message.
And I'm sure it's been said plenty of times by now, but it's 2008. Cell phones are no longer newfangled devices that we still don't quite know how to use right. If you can't figure out how to turn your fucking cell phone off in class or during a movie or something, I should be allowed to inflict physical harm upon your person.
I've managed to make it through 4 years of college having my phone go off in class only once (that was after I first got it, and didn't realize there was a difference between "silence ringer" and "silence all," and I got a text in class. I didn't realize it was my phone until after class though, as that was the first text I had ever received and didn't recognize the ringtone). Yet for some reason, I see the same people repeatedly having their phone ring in the middle of lecture.
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And I'm sure it's been said plenty of times by now, but it's 2008. Cell phones are no longer newfangled devices that we still don't quite know how to use right.
I can tell you with 100% conviction that this is absolutely not true. The worst thing is when stupid people with no grasp of technology get a Voyager or Blackberry because they are "cool" and need to be talked through using the damn thing. If you don't know what something does, DON'T BUY IT.
I had my cell phone go off in class once. I actually thought, "should I turn my ringer off? Nah, too much effort, no one calls me at this time anyways." Of course, that was the day that I got a call. The funny thing (to me) is that it was a women's studies class, and when I listened to the message, it turned out that the call was an automated message from Planned Parenthood reminding me to vote pro-choice. I was more amused than embarrassed at that point.
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Being a poor student all my money is currently being saved for tuition and as such I can't afford a cell phone. On the rare occasion that I've texted using someone else's phone T9 has driven me absolutely insane, I'd rather type my own words than have some shitty program try to guess what I'm saying.
This thread has also reminded me how people that text excessively annoy me.
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(http://www.gadgetell.com/images/062006/DSC01224.JPG)
this is my phone.
it can spell anything.
ANYTHING.
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Man, I'm so glad phone makers decided to abandon that fad. Those keyboards were terrible.
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this is my phone.
it can spell anything.
ANYTHING.
Unimpressive. Anything is a simple word.
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Who the fuck actually uses the dictionary feature on their phone? I spent a month using it, constantly entering words into it and by the end of that month it was still twice as fast to just punch the message in without it.
Also I am sure at some point I compiled a massive list of Firefox spell check omissions, but I can't appear to find it anywhere.
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I use the dictionary on my phone actually - to such a degree that I can barely type with it off. I don't abbreviate anything (contractions don't count obviously) and it works just fine. It helps that here text messages are a reasonably cheap and efficient way of communicating. I've had long and pretty in depth conversations with people just by text message alone! Seriously guys we live in the future. Get with it.
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I am the roommate in this situation!!! Nothing annoys me more than when my friend calls and leaves a message saying "call me back when you get this", knowing FULL WELL that thanks to the not-so-recent advent of caller ID, i knew he called so was going to call him back anyway. So I end up making 2 phone calls instead of one.
I never leave messages that just say "call me back," that annoys me to no end as well. My roommate knows this. But when I call him and leave him a long message that had an actual purpose, it really bugs me when he completely disregards my message and then calls me and makes me repeat the whole thing.
One of my friends was telling me that their professor's policy was that if your phone went off in class, you had to get up and dance to it.
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I think the fact that we are talking about our personal preferences regarding SMSing is a pretty good indication that we are all "with" the future right now. Or the present if you want to get technical.
Also despite the fact that this makes me a hypocrite, for all my ballyhoo about fluid comprehension being the only real necessary judgement for a form of communication*, I cannot bring myself to abbreviate anything in a text message, because it just feels fucking lazy.
*I might be the only person here who doesn't consider text abbreviation to be an actual impediment to understanding though, I've had people tell me they seriously lack the ability to read m8 as "mate" and tho as "though" as words which makes me wonder about their reading comprehension skills, but whatever that is a whole other argument. I suppose you could argue that people of lesser intelligence are less prone to literary comprehension and more prone to phonemic comprehension, and therefore more likely to sound written words out in their head, but I find it pretty easy to switch between the two.
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Who the fuck actually uses the dictionary feature on their phone? I spent a month using it, constantly entering words into it and by the end of that month it was still twice as fast to just punch the message in without it.
Also I am sure at some point I compiled a massive list of Firefox spell check omissions, but I can't appear to find it anywhere.
I second this.
I've never had an issue with the autotext of phones because I disable it first chance I get. I find it superfluous.
RE: Phone messages-
I only ever leave short messages anymore because no one ever calls me back anyway.
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I might be the only person here who doesn't consider text abbreviation to be an actual impediment to understanding though, I've had people tell me they seriously lack the ability to read m8 as "mate" and tho as "though" as words which makes me wonder about their reading comprehension skills.
I don't think it's so much an impediment to understanding as it is just fucking annoying. I can understand those abbreviations just fine, but my brain responds with what I can only describe as a mental gag reflex. I honestly despise it when people don't make the effort to type properly, and replacing numbers with letters, abbreviating words to phonemes, and refusing to capitalize or upsets me. I've been called a snob for saying this, but you know what? I like to write things so that other people can READ them, and I like it when others write things the same way.
Basically, I don't think it takes that much effort to write as if you are literate. I can be understanding with texting, because typing with 9 keys can be a pain in the ass. But on a computer with a full keyboard? No excuses.
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DBR,
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My surname. It´s not just the cell phone which disagree with me, but Word also claims that I´ve written it incorrectly. It annoys me greatly.
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Every time I try to type "tomorrow," I end up with "tomfoolery."
Also, whenever I try to type "tonight" I get a ? behind it for no reason.
On the other hand, if I type "che" I windup with "Chef Sued."
Pain in the ass
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I think the fact that we are talking about our personal preferences regarding SMSing is a pretty good indication that we are all "with" the future right now. Or the present if you want to get technical.
The future is already here - it is just unevenly distributed. - William Gibson.
I honestly hate texting, but that is partially because my fingers are so big I keep making typos. And because they are more expensive than just calling for me, with the plan I have.
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Tomorrow, seriously my phone insists on spelling it tomorow so I always just go with that since Im far too lazy to tell it otherwise.
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I turned that goofy thing off.
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I really cannot see the issue with T9. I really like it. It works really well for me. I was going to make a joke about it not having words like 'Hermitian' and 'conjugate' but holy shit, it does. It doesn't have 'polynomial' or 'hypotenuse' though so whatever. Why the hell has it got 'Hermitian' but not 'hypotenuse'? When do you ever write 'Hermitian' in a goddamn sms.
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I never initiate text conversations because I find texting on cell phones very annoying. When someone sends me a text, I respond "call." I make exceptions for pretty girls.
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I cannot bring myself to abbreviate anything in a text message, because it just feels fucking lazy.
I concur. I am utterly lost on the rest of this conversation however. I have had my phone suggest words as I am typing but never outright replace them for me. Maybe it is an option I never turned on? I think I am okay with that.
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I don't have a mobile phone and I'm glad. Fuck you, modern technology! Fuck you in the ass WITH A STICK!
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What do you do if you're in the middle of somewhere and need to call somebody? I thought payphones went extinct.
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You'd be surprised how rare an occasion that turns out to be.
Then again I don't ever go anywhere not in walking distance.
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I thought payphones went extinct.
Not 'round these parts. There are some.
That being said I like to avoid being in situations where I need to call anyone at all. It works so far.
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*slow clap*
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My phone doesn't care what words I enter into it...
only the person I'm talking to on it does. :P
Call me old-fashioned, but entering words with 12 keys and sending someone a message less than a sentence long for a dime doesn't appeal to me. (Which is odd because I'm right in the middle of the target demographic for cell phones.) I think they're overrated.
Phones are for talking, damn it! [grumble grumble grumble] :lol:
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I don't think it's so much an impediment to understanding as it is just fucking annoying. I can understand those abbreviations just fine, but my brain responds with what I can only describe as a mental gag reflex. I honestly despise it when people don't make the effort to type properly, and replacing numbers with letters, abbreviating words to phonemes, and refusing to capitalize or upsets me. I've been called a snob for saying this, but you know what? I like to write things so that other people can READ them, and I like it when others write things the same way.
On one hand, we are pretty much agreeing completely. I do not think that it is so difficult to spell things in their traditional forms that it should be the norm to abbreviate in text speak, and you agree that it is not a problem of understanding with most (not all because there are some ridiculous abbreviations out there) texting terms, but an act of laziness.
On the other hand I am confused that you say that you like to write things so that people can read them when you seem to agree with me that this shorthand doesn't actually stand in the way of actual understanding, and is a stylistic offence more than a specific grammatical one. If we were talking about messages that people would WANT to read, then we are pretty much in the same ballpark though, because I too find the extent to which this shorthand pervades our written culture.
Then again I was thinking "well, you're right, its more acceptable in mobile phone messages than in IM messages' but then I got to thinking how you'd define the standard of what formats it is ok to use it in and which it isn't. I can touch type quickly, sure, but I can also touch-text incredibly quickly as well, just through sheer force of habit. It's still slower than typing, but if we are going to use the speed of the medium as a gauge for how willing we should be to use shorthand, people would never write (pen to paper, I mean) in anything other than shorthand, since actual writing is fucking tedious unless you have a kind of fetish for it.
Then again I guess its a question of functionality. The only time I ever actually write anymore is in shorthand for work related purposes (6xTED, 4xWT, 8xSmrblk for req), because it's simply the easiest way to achieve what I have to. People who tend to use short hand in IM's are generally less interested in using the internet as a tool for discussion and more as a tool for a more superficial, banal kind of interaction, whereas people who type on IM programs like typical written English are probably more likely to treat it as an extension of physical social action.
Since text messages are typically a highly practical form of communication in order to exchange quick snippets of information about when you might meet someone, and for general sort of organisation of actual meat life happenings, the urge to use English in its traditional form would be rather lessened. I am quite willing to admit my distaste for text shorthand is more based on my fetish for language than it is for any practical reason. Also I kind of died a little bit when I saw the article on text speak in the newspaper, with an insert of a Shakespeare quote converted into this format. I understand the people who were writing the article were making a kind of joke I guess, but jesus, man, too far
TL;DR summary: i lik 2 hear myslf spk type and am not actually arguing with anyone!
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The origin of abbreviation in texting is not just for speed, but also because SMS has a severely limited message length (160 7-bit characters, down to 70 16-bit characters). Although nowadays longer messages are automatically sent in segments (up to 255) and reassembled at the receiver, this was not so when they first came into use.
Paul
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I had my cell phone go off in class once. I actually thought, "should I turn my ringer off? Nah, too much effort, no one calls me at this time anyways." Of course, that was the day that I got a call.
Happens all the time. I was at Death of a Salesmen in Georgetown the other night and of course it went off right at the moment that Biff confronts Willie with the hose attached to the water heater that he was planning on using to kill himself with. More or less ruined the whole play. I hated myself!
also: cll phn abbrvs r gay
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My cell phone abbreviations are bisexual.
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I'm a huge fan of text-messaging! It's a way to send a quick bit of information that is not time sensitive. Most people I'm texting are either working or possibly in class when I want to send them a message, so I don't have to interrupt them with a call at an inopportune time for something relatively unimportant. It also works well for me because I can type stupid fast on a cellphone, and I despise calling people.
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I appreciate and respect people who can text message, especially those who can text message at speed, even with unfriendly abbreviations that mean nothing to the outside observer. Unfortunately, I am completely clueless in that area, and never got on the whole "newer, better mobile phone" boat. My first phone was a Bosch 509e, for christ's sakes. Bosch.
As in, them lot who make washing machines.
My current phone is bulky, comfy, black and white, and calls people. That is all I need, really.
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I'm a huge fan of text-messaging! It's a way to send a quick bit of information that is not time sensitive. Most people I'm texting are either working or possibly in class when I want to send them a message, so I don't have to interrupt them with a call at an inopportune time for something relatively unimportant. It also works well for me because I can type stupid fast on a cellphone, and I despise calling people.
This is exactly what I do.
Also, to the people who hate T9, maybe you did what I did for the longest time. In "normal" texting, you would 8 once, 4 twice and 3 twice to spell "the". In T9 (at least on my phone) you would hit would just hit 8 4 3 once in that order and it assumes you want a word from those letter groups and 90% of the time its "the". If you try to type out stuff like a "normal" text message in T9 it wont work.
It took my close to 6 months to grasp this
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What do you do if you're in the middle of somewhere and need to call somebody? I thought payphones went extinct.
This is actually surprisingly untrue, at least in rather urban areas! Payphones, while a bit harder to find, are still practical (at least I think.) (then again i only use them when I'm enough of a dumbass to leave my cell phone home.) (which is more often than I would like.)
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My phone is actually an incredibly important tool for me. Not only do I need to to call people and indeed be called by people I am almost hamstringed without it because I don't own a watch. If I don't have a phone I don't know what time it is (and having a really shit internal clock means that even if I ask someone the time I will be just as fucked as I was before after about 5 minutes). If I forget my iPod then my phone also has some songs on it that can help me waste time until things I need to do are ready to be done. It also has solitaire on it which helps a lot.
I use text messages all the time, but they are cheaper than calls so it's not that surprising and it's handy being able to send someone a message saying "we're out of chilli sauce. Can you pick some up on the way home?" rather than call them, ask them that and then get drawn into a long and ultimately expensive conversation about their day which I do not care about at all.
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My current phone is bulky, comfy, and calls people. That is all I need, really.
Truth. Here's my phone:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/thehollow/IMG_2733.jpg)
and for a size comparison:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/thehollow/IMG_2734.jpg)
I got it 4 years ago, it still works perfectly, and I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. It's got a battery that can last me a week (granted, I don't talk on it as much as most people I'd guess), and it's rugged and sturdy and I never need to worry about breaking it. Also, it's big enough that I could probably bludgeon someone to death with it if need be. I get plenty of shit for it, but I don't really care (the Zach Morris references seem to be particularly popular). It calls people and stores phone numbers, which is all I really need it to do; I could give a shit about internet access or playing videos or whatever.
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I swear to god they are intentionally making cell phones shtittier. I had an old LG about five years ago, that I've "upgraded" since. My new phone lasts for all of two days, battery wise, and the antenna snapped off when my cat nudged it off or my kitchen table. The antenna is now held on with electical tape.
My brother can't keep a phone to save his life. He's had them stolen, had them fall into bodies of water, etc. He's now using my old phone and it works perfectly.
Eventually America's economy will get bad enough that this disposable culture will go away. In the meantime..seriously guys, stop making shit now.
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Buy a Nokia 3310 they were probably the perfect mobile phone; virtually indestructable, strangely good for calling and SMSing, have games, and that was about it I guess. We're inbetween mobile phones and (practical) mobile computers now, so most handsets are phones which have a lot of stupid shit on them instead of computers that can make phone calls, etc. The Motorola Razr has been working for me, it's just a cheap, simple, stylish mobile phone.
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I agree about the fact that new phones are crap.
I don't think it's ALL new phones, just the majority of them. The phone culture is more a status thing now. You don't get a phone for it's functionality; you get it as an accessory to your lifestyle, a symbol that you are in fact well-off or at the very least "hip." Why would a company spend the time and energy to create a cell phone that lasts longer than 4 weeks now that people exchange them in 4 days for the newer model?
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yeah, almost all of my friends have shitty clamshell phones that have broken on them at least once. Narr pretty much nailed it; the ability to make and receive calls seem more like features added on as an afterthought to what basically has become a glorified mp3 player. Things like how strong of a signal it gets is less important than how many songs you can download. My brother is on the exact same plan as me with a phone that's 2 years newer than mine, and we can be standing in the same spot and he'll have 1 or 2 bars while I'm at full bars.
My mom even took me into the Sprint store when she needed to replace her phone to try and convince me to get mine replaced as well. The guy at the store helping us agreed with me and said that he wouldn't replace it either. When the guy whose job is to try and sell you phones tells you not to buy a phone, something's wrong.
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Every time I've gone in for an upgrade, that's all I ask. What's your sturdiest phone with the best reception? My parents' places are really rural so you constantly have shit reception so even just SLIGHTLY better reception makes a huge difference.
This was my last phone. I lost it though, which is sad, because it was the best phone ever. Incredibly sturdy, with a really good battery life and I could actually make and receive calls in my hometown, which is a feat. Also the camera swiveled so it could point out to what you're seeing, or in to you. Fairly high quality pictures too for a camera phone. I miss it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/samsung_a930.jpg)
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Yeah, the days when phones were sturdy are over (Nokia 3310s and 3315s are still the sturdiest around; you can hit those things with a brick and they're ok). The phone I have at the moment is pretty good. Strong, good reception and it does what I need it to, which is enough for me.
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I've got a Sanyo MM-8300. Might be a flip, but it's built like a tank. Sure, most of the paint's worn off, and everything's scuffed up, and the antenna's a bit loose, but it still works perfectly.
And takes (sucky) pictures. And even suckier videos.
And browses the internet.
I don't text, though. $0.15 is way too much for that.
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I am with Jimmy about the necessity of my phone. I use it to check the time, so it is either carry it with me everywhere, or crack and go buy the pretty $150 watch I want. At the moment the phone I have is costing me less immediately. Also, I will send an sms over calling someone any day. They are ultimately cheaper (although I do send a lot of them, so it adds up. but then my plan gives me $300 worth of credit so it's not a huge deal) and I don't have to deal with actually talking to anyone. I don't know why, but talking to people on the phone is incredibly awkward, so I avoid it. I also avoid making (or listening to) messages left on answering machine-dealies. They are terrible, and I really have to change my message to "If you leave a message here I will not listen to it. Either try me again later or I will ring you back when I notice the missed calls on my phone."
Also, Jimmy's phone is ridiculously awesome. You should all get one like it, because it is super great. It is shiny and pretty and takes good photos and all that jazz! It even makes phone calls! The only thing that may be used against it is that it is really light and thin, so it can be forgotten that it is in one's pocket.
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Oh, and that's something else.
I'm often in areas with poor signal. Often, the phone won't ring, and won't display a missed call, but will display the new voicemail notification.
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Buy a Nokia 3310 they were probably the perfect mobile phone; virtually indestructable, strangely good for calling and SMSing, have games, and that was about it I guess. We're inbetween mobile phones and (practical) mobile computers now, so most handsets are phones which have a lot of stupid shit on them instead of computers that can make phone calls, etc. The Motorola Razr has been working for me, it's just a cheap, simple, stylish mobile phone.
I only got rid of my second-hand 3310 at Christmas, when it gave up after probably five years of near continual operation, practically daily physical punishment, and whatnot. Although, I'd bet that if I hadn't had my 3210 lost on me, I'd still be using it. They are tremendous. And no fiddly bits that get in the way, like accidentally connecting to the internet and downloading something that costs seven euro.
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I don't own a cell phone or a pager. I just hang around everyone I know, all the time.
If someone needs to get a hold of me they just say, "Mitch," and I say, "what" and turn my head slightly.
Oh way to go, Tommy. Now I miss Mitch Hedberg all over again.
Dick.
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yeah, my phone definitely doesn't recognize "cheeseburger" as a word.