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Title: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 00:24
Discussion was had a while back on playing D&D while the less nerdy folks went and watched sports or some shit. This is an official interest check.

It will probably be level ~10 or lower, because that's sort of middle-ground; but more discussion will be had later to iron it all out.

So anyway, If you're want to do a one-off dungeon, vote yes. If you would, but don't care, vote maybe. If you are willing to DM the game, send me a PM(if your name is ackblom12, I am talking to you). If enough interest is generated, this thread will be updated with levels and other assorted bullshit, at a date closer to the actual date of the trip.

pee ess: Mod-types, if you think this is better suited for the main tronnocon thread, feel free to lock this one up and tell me to put it there, or move it yourself.


Looks like tronnocon d&d is a go; It seems that ackblom12 will me our dm, possibly also playing. He'll post additional information later on, at some point, either int his thread, or in a new one if this one fades into the distance.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: ackblom12 on 13 Apr 2008, 00:44
I'm all kinds of wanting this to happen. I'm warning you though that if I DM, I'm going to want to play 4th Edition.

I'm planning on dropping 3.x like a bad habit the moment my 4th ed books are in the mail.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 00:44
4th ed sounds like a plan to me, I have the books on preorder.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 06:26
You should also post when you vote so I know who wants what, shitdicks. Also, after talking to ackblom12, it looks like we'll be playing 3.x ed, because it's the system everyone would know.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: jhocking on 13 Apr 2008, 07:20
The poll should have been about the second question.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 11:21
I'm pretty sure that if you vote "yes" to playing d&d with people from the internet in a hostel room in canada, that it answers the second question just fine.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: calenlass on 13 Apr 2008, 11:34
I vote yes, but I have recently discovered the joys of playing in a world the DM makes up as he goes. It is more just for the hell of it and smartass.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 11:43
yeah, I think I ruined that for all my friends. We were doing that style at ren faire and I did something stupid, and my DM said "Roll all your dice for damage" because he didn't know that I had all my dice with me.. all 127 of them. No one gets to roll all their dice for damage ever again.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: jhocking on 13 Apr 2008, 12:50
I'm pretty sure that if you vote "yes" to playing d&d with people from the internet in a hostel room in canada, that it answers the second question just fine.

fair point
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 13 Apr 2008, 14:57
I vote yes, but I haven't played D&D since junior high, and that wasn't for very long. So I have none of the current edition stuff, and I'm not sure if I want to learn how to play or buy the Players handbook for just a one-off in Canada.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: 0bsessions on 13 Apr 2008, 15:48
Fuck you guys. I will play catch with myself while everyone else is off playing D&D or watching soccer or shopping.

Nerds.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Slick on 13 Apr 2008, 16:06
Just be aware that while in Canada, we'll have to play the Canadian Edition rules.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Nodaisho on 13 Apr 2008, 16:47
Boro, if you don't mind learning how to pay but just don't want to pay for a one-off, www.d20srd.org

It is a searchable copy of the system reference documents, it is missing some of the stuff like how you create your character, but it goes through just about everything else.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Slick on 13 Apr 2008, 16:56
(Canadian Edition rules involve a lot less pants and a lot more of me, if you know what I mean)
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Lines on 13 Apr 2008, 17:20
I voted no, but this was before I knew what the Canadian Edition rules entailed. Hurrr.

Chances are I will not be present when you guys are playing, though. It'll be summer and warm and that makes me want to frolic outdoors.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: tania on 13 Apr 2008, 17:43
jon! i'm not going to do sports stuff or play d&d either.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 18:46
no one wants to play catch with you, fatty.
Title: Re: Are you going to Tronnocon? Are you a giant nerd?
Post by: Something Witty on 13 Apr 2008, 19:36
Looks like one more yes and we have a game. Not that a 3 player game is unpossible, and we have 4 if the dm wants to play at the same time. Sorry, not-nerds.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Trollstormur on 18 Apr 2008, 00:50
It seems that ackblom12 will me our dm, possibly also playing.

in b4 mary-sue DMPC
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: pilsner on 18 Apr 2008, 06:29
In before I put on my robe and wizard's hat.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: 0bsessions on 18 Apr 2008, 06:40
In before thread turns stupid.

Wait...
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Skibas_clavicle on 21 Apr 2008, 11:03
....ugh, really?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Lines on 21 Apr 2008, 13:28
Does it involve frolicking outside? I guess you could do that if the bar had a patio big enough to frolic around in and in a certain state of drunkenness. But I'd rather keep my internal organs intact, so I'll frolic until it's time to drive everyone to the hospital.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 21 Apr 2008, 17:12
Some of us will be drinking ourselves to death instead if you'd prefer it.

We'll probably be drinking ourselves to death at the same time.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Tom on 21 Apr 2008, 18:02
Do you have to roll a 20 to drink someone under the table?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: ackblom12 on 21 Apr 2008, 19:02
First off, whoever is planning on playing needs to PM me and let me know so I can remember who is and isn't playing.

Alright, rules for the game and character creation!

- Core Books + Magic Item Compendium only (This includes Feats, Races, Magic Items & Classes)*

- Characters will receive 80 points to distribute between their attributes as you see fit

- Everyone will be starting at 10th level

- Everyone will start with 49,000 gp worth of equipment and gold

- Axes count as both Slashing and Bludgeoning damage in my games

- Barbarian has to be taken at 1st level. You can multi out of it and continue in it later, but to get Barbarian at all, you have to take it as your 1st level.

- Unless the creature is amorphous, incorporeal or the like they are NOT immune to criticals and Sneak Attacks.

- The feat "Point Blank Shot" does not exist. Fuck Point Blank Shot. Anything that requires PBS as a pre-req ignores PBS's existence.

- Rolling a 20 is an automatic Crit. If you have a crit range beyond 20, and you roll in the crit range but NOT a 20, you must confirm.

- Rolling a 1 to hit is an automatic miss. Unless circumstances make it hilarious, I will not punish you further.

*I might make exceptions for races that aren't in the core books and I'm not opposed to races that have adjusted levels, just ask first.

I'm thinking a more Hack n' Slash adventure with drinking game rules added. Things like...

- Roll a 20, take a shot
- Roll a 1, take 2 shots
- etc

As I remember and think up more I'll update. The most important thing right now is just for people to let me know they're playing via PM and if they have any character ideas yet.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 21 Apr 2008, 20:10
See, Tommy? You can drink yourself to death and still play the D&D. But with that in mind, I think I've changed my mind. I'm more for the frollicking outside. However, chances are that I can still drop in and make drunken half-witty remarks and in general harass the players.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Patrick on 22 Apr 2008, 00:54
I totally want to be part of this over the inter-nets.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 22 Apr 2008, 03:00
This is gradually shaping up to be the nerdiest event in the history of the world.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 22 Apr 2008, 03:42
This is gradually shaping up to be the nerdiest event in the history of the world.

"I drove 4,000 miles over the course of 4 days to get drunk and play d&d with nerds from the internet."
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 22 Apr 2008, 04:01
You should all bring laptops and sit side by side on a couch playing D&D over the internet.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Patrick on 22 Apr 2008, 05:03
SKYPE
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 22 Apr 2008, 15:01
For the record, I'm either doing a monk a barbarian or a cleric. I haven't decided yet. You guys should post what you are intending to make at some point so I can decide.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tommydski on 22 Apr 2008, 15:04
I'm going to be A MAN WHO CAME A LONG WAY TO DO SOME FUCKING DRINKING.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Storm Rider on 22 Apr 2008, 15:20
Seriously. If I were coming, I wouldn't have flown 2500 goddamn miles to sit in a room and play D&D the whole time. And everyone knows I'm a huge nerd.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Lines on 22 Apr 2008, 15:26
Seriously. I'm not coming because I'm lame and I'm kind of jealous some people will be nerdy and that others have drinking to do and zombie ultimate frisbee wars with nerf guns. A bloo bloo bloo.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tommydski on 22 Apr 2008, 15:32
Don't forget the promiscuous, unprotected, rampant hot dickings.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 22 Apr 2008, 15:42
Oh I thought that was your secret surprise.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tommydski on 22 Apr 2008, 15:46
The surprise is I've been lying about the size of my dick this whole time.

I'm immense. Bring lube and something to bite down on.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tania on 22 Apr 2008, 18:14
if i lived 2,500 miles away and wasn't going to toronto i would refer you to bryan's post because he put it better than i ever could. as it turns out i live an hour's bus ride from toronto, and am going, so really our situation isn't all that similar. but maybe in some ways it kind of is.

basically what i am trying to say is that even if i am a fatty no one wants to play catch with, it doesn't change the fact that you guys are still nerds.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Trollstormur on 22 Apr 2008, 19:17
someone play this character:

10 gnome druid 205 years old (venerable, -3str/dex/con, +3int/wis/cha)

str 10
dex 12
con 17
int 21
wis 21
cha 21

2 ability bonuses go to con and wis

Feats: Spell Focus (Conjuration), Wild Spell, Augment Summoning

items:
rod of metamagic empower spell lesser (9000gp)
monk's belt (13,000)
druid's vestments (3700)
amulet of health +4 (16000)
wand of cure moderate wounds (4500)

2800ish GP left over.

Animal Companion: Advanced Brown Bear (10 hit dice)

wild shape: combat -- polar bear. claw/claw/bite on full attack, claws 10ft, 27 str, +18 to grapple check

and there ya go. you wind up with

27 str, can cast spells while wildshaped
13 dex
22 con
21 int
22 wis
21 cha

then you can summon 1d3 brown bears each with 31 str and 23 sta with an average of 60 hitpoints and a +18 grapple check and surround a motherfucker in hurt. if you and your companion and each summoned animal make your full attack, you do 15 attacks each at roughly +13 to hit and do between 1d8+10(claw)x2 and 2d6+6(bite)



alright there ya go, one optimized character.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tania on 22 Apr 2008, 19:19
what's the word filter for 'i have nothing of value to add'?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: ummmkay on 22 Apr 2008, 19:22
I think it replaces +1.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 22 Apr 2008, 19:32
lol you got it right, and were therefore filtered.

It's when you type "+ 1"
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: ummmkay on 22 Apr 2008, 19:38
Okay yeah I'm an idiot. Thanks, jhocking.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 22 Apr 2008, 20:14
Seriously. If I were coming, I wouldn't have flown 2500 goddamn miles to sit in a room and play D&D the whole time. And everyone knows I'm a huge nerd.

How about to sit in a room for four hours and play d&d? because really, four hours out of four days ain't so bad.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: ackblom12 on 22 Apr 2008, 20:22
Especially when I'm planning on turning it into a drinking game.

Seriously guys, we need to make more Drinking rules.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 22 Apr 2008, 20:30
You have to take a shot every time you roll. There, that should solve everyone's problems rather quickly. Let's see how long you can stick to D&D when you've got a BAC of .39

Now, see, if we were going to play World of Darkness instead, I might be interested.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Patrick on 22 Apr 2008, 23:27
You should take one shot for every damage point you take. There, that'll be intoxicating enough.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 23 Apr 2008, 01:34
- Characters will receive 80 points to distribute between their attributes as you see fit

Do we get two more points for level 4 and level 8 or no?

Also, I won't be doing any "take a shot" rules, because I plan to be steadily drinking the whole time.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: 0bsessions on 23 Apr 2008, 08:16
I've got yours beat, Phil.

You should take one shot for every time you do or say something nerdy.

I expect to have to drag all your nerdy asses to the hospital within twenty minutes.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: yelley on 23 Apr 2008, 09:05
D&D? really? i actually am traveling 2500 miles for this... i bet jason would want to play D&D with you guys though. the geeks can have their D&D, the sports geeks can have their hit a ball with a stick or whatever, i will have drunken knitting/karaoke time if anyone would like to join me for that.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 23 Apr 2008, 09:08
D&D... hit a ball with a stick... drunken knitting/karaoke

wow, each option sounds worse than the previous.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tania on 23 Apr 2008, 09:11
hitting a ball with a stick is clearly the best option, but unfortunately it will have to be removed from the list because that is not what ultimate frisbee is.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 23 Apr 2008, 09:13
ultimate frisbee?! This is the first I've heard of that as an activity for Tronnocon.

jealousy
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: yelley on 23 Apr 2008, 09:14
i thought people were going to a baseball game? maybe that changed... i don't know, i've been hiding from the forums lately.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: 0bsessions on 23 Apr 2008, 09:19
They were going to soccer. As a person who doesn't care for soccer and would rather shoot himself in the eye than travel 900 miles to play fucking D&D INDOORS in June, I'm going to be outside finding something to do.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tania on 23 Apr 2008, 09:23
i haven't been to the tronnocon thread in a a while but i recall there being a pretty huge discussion for a while on ultimate frisbee. are you fuckers really now going to a soccer game instead? seriously?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: 0bsessions on 23 Apr 2008, 09:27
The Ultimate Frisbee match will likely still happen, but people are talking about attending a soccer game too.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: tania on 23 Apr 2008, 09:31
okay good because my decision to make the $20 bus trip to toronto and back for this pretty much completely hinged on the possibility that i would get to tackle people.

and uh... because... i want to hang out with my internet friends of course.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: jhocking on 23 Apr 2008, 09:34
If this disappoints you, you could always make a last minute change of plans to come to Chicago to play ultimate frisbee. I had honestly until just now when you mentioned it forgot how much I love ultimate frisbee.

Millennium Park will be beautiful that time of year. you know you want to


ADDITION: darn, jon hadn't posted yet
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Lines on 23 Apr 2008, 11:45
Yeah, ultimate was I think the 2nd outdoor activity we planned next to the mock zombie outbreak.

And sorry guys, since it's such a short amount of time in Toronto, I don't think I'll be going to the soccer game.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 23 Apr 2008, 13:43
They were going to soccer. As a person who doesn't care for soccer and would rather shoot himself in the eye than travel 900 miles to play fucking D&D INDOORS in June, I'm going to be outside finding something to do.

Exactly. If the sports guys don't go to soccer, we probably won't play, this idea came us as something to fill the nerdy people's time while other people went to watch soccer. but all that said, you fucks should stop shitting in my thread. Seriously. If you don't want to play, don't fucking play, but shut the fuck up about it.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Patrick on 23 Apr 2008, 13:59
Dude Ultimate Frisbee? No fairrrrrrr I wanna play
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Apr 2008, 14:08
Yeah, ultimate was I think the 2nd outdoor activity we planned next to the mock zombie outbreak.

And sorry guys, since it's such a short amount of time in Toronto, I don't think I'll be going to the soccer game.

Yeah, I'm thinking I'd rather run around and have fun anyway.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: ackblom12 on 23 Apr 2008, 16:36

Do we get two more points for level 4 and level 8 or no?

Also, I won't be doing any "take a shot" rules, because I plan to be steadily drinking the whole time.

Yes you get the 4th and 8th level attributes and goddamn it at least a couple of us need to have our drinking game cause I think beer is disgusting.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 23 Apr 2008, 19:43
I never said I was going to be drinking beer. Beer is basically disgusting.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: calenlass on 24 Apr 2008, 02:48
I will not be doing shots. I drink things with the intention of savouring them.


Hey Tommy, at worst we can knock back some bottles of Jack Daniels and watch Queen of the Damned again, eh?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Verergoca on 24 Apr 2008, 02:59
Shots are like, ew. Exept embryos. Those are quite nice. At least. I think they are... (They are what a friend of me and my buddies serves us in the bar as a thank-you after dinner parties... They appearantly are disgusting and way to heavy. But as, by the time she hands those out, i am beyond caring, it usually doesnt matter)
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: calenlass on 24 Apr 2008, 16:03
Oh was it? I am sorry I cannot remember. I had so much delicious alcohol that it all kind of runs together, you know.
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 28 Apr 2008, 01:38
here's an idea:

The current "Spells per day" system sucks! I already talked to ackblom about it and he liked it, so I'm going to post it and the players can argue about it.

 Take the spells per day table, in this example, the spells per day of a 5th level sorcerer:

Code: [Select]
Spell level: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Per Day:     6 6 4 - - - - - - -

Now, assign each spell a mana point value, for the sake of ease, we'll say Mana = Spell Level plus one. This Means:

Code: [Select]
Spell Level:mana cost
          0:1
          1:2
          2:3
          3:4
          4:5
          5:6
          6:7
          7:8
          8:9
          9:10

Using the above tables, the example Sorcerer would get 6+ 12+ 12(30) mana, for 6 0 level spells(6 mana) at 1 mana each, 6 1 level spells at 2 mana each(12 mana) and 4 2 level spells at 3 mana each(12 mana).

Now, a sorcerer is a spontaneous caster, so using this system, the sorcerer could cast any combination of spells known in a given day that totals to ≤30.

For say, a wizard, who is not a spontaneous spell caster, You prepare your spells in exactly the same way, but instead or preparing the same spell multiple times, you prepare your maximum number of spells per day, and then you can cast any of the spells multiple times as long as you do not exceed your maximum mana for the day. You can only prepare spells up to the level of spell you would normally be able to cast.

Clerics get to prepare their maximum number of spells per day plus a domain spell of each appropriate level.  Each time after the first you do this, the mana cost increases by two. example:

A level 5 cleric has 0:5 1:4 2:3 3:2 or 30 Mana.

The cleric can cast Inflict/Cure Light Wounds(1 level spell) once at the cost of 2 mana. The next time he casts Inflict/Cure Light Wounds, it will cost 4 mana. After that, 6 mana, and so on. Why does the mana cost go up? Otherwise, The cleric could go "HURR INFLICT/CURE LIGHT WOUNDS" every round, and that's not how it's intended to work.


For Metamagic feats, Silent Spell, Still Spell, et cetera: Instead of applying these feats during spell preparation, you can apply them at any time, increasing in cost by 1 mana for each feat applied. For Example:

Our 5th level Sorcerer casts Grease(PHB237) a 1 level spell at the cost of 2 mana. Now, the Sorcerer decides to use the Quicken Spell feat to cast it instantly instead of as a standard action, increasing the cost to 3 mana. At the same time, he decides to use the Widen Spell feat effect, doubling the area affected by the spell, and increasing the cost to 4 mana, and so on, as many feats as you decide to apply/can afford to apply.

Eschew Materials is not a metamagic feat and thus does not affect the mana cost of spells.

Anyone have any questions/see any problems/want to use this system in canada?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Trollstormur on 28 Apr 2008, 02:00
so how do you figure out which spells you can cast that day?
Title: Re: Tronnocon D&D is a go: Details within!
Post by: Something Witty on 28 Apr 2008, 02:02
For say, a wizard, who is not a spontaneous spell caster, You prepare your spells in exactly the same way, but instead or preparing the same spell multiple times, you prepare your maximum number of spells per day, and then you can cast any of the spells multiple times as long as you do not exceed your maximum mana for the day.

You can only prepare spells up to the level of spell you could normally cast. I meant to put that in there the first time, it's there now.