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Title: i'm ready to come out from under my rock, please help me.
Post by: yelley on 27 Jun 2008, 22:50
most of you that know me know that i don't really listen to a lot of music. i haven't switched out my ipod in nearly 2 years and i almost always listen to the same handful of bands. well now i have a job where i can have my ipod with me all the time and i guess i am getting sick of the same thing all the time. i want some new music, but i don't know where to start! i'm so intimidated by how much is out there that i don't know about, so i was hoping that all of you that know so much can help me out. so here is what is on my ipod right now... i am looking for things that are sort of similar. any suggestions would be appreciated.

-the shins
-iron and wine
-mogwai
-jason mraz
-sigur ros
-antony and the johnsons
-kings of convenience
-clap your hands say yeah
-neutral milk hotel
-the decemberists
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 27 Jun 2008, 22:59
You may want to give The Mountain Goats a listen. The Sunset Tree (http://rapidshare.com/files/62395159/TMGTST.rar)  is a really good starter.



Also The Silver Jews, whose last album  (http://www.mediaf!re.com/?idjmdnizm4l)is also very good
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Jun 2008, 02:16
Also The Silver Jews, whose last album  (http://www.mediaf!re.com/?idjmdnizm4l)is also very good

If you like this, give Pavement a try. And by "Give Pavement a try" I mean "Get fucking everything"
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Post by: Tom on 28 Jun 2008, 03:17
SUNSET RUNDOWN
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Post by: Metope on 28 Jun 2008, 03:31
(rubdown)

-Anyways
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Post by: squawk on 28 Jun 2008, 03:42
I'm thinking that you would enjoy WOLF PARADE! as well. Also, you might like the new Earlimart album (http://www.mediafire.com/?jx8ieigzddf).
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Post by: CamusCanDo on 28 Jun 2008, 04:18
Man Man, Okkervil River and The New Pornographers. All three bands who I constantly have on repeat.
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Post by: amok on 28 Jun 2008, 04:45
Calexico - Garden Ruin
The Essex Green - Cannibal Sea (I think some lovely person put this up in the mediaf1re thing at the top)
The Whitest Boy Alive - Dreams
His Name Is Alive - Xmmer
The Most Serene Republic - Underwater Cinematographer / Population

And everything by Low, yes.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jun 2008, 06:30
I've been tempted to do this to you on the phone a few times, buuuuuuut..

-Explosions In The Sky
-Mono
-American Analog Set
-Colossal
-Owls
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Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jun 2008, 07:20
Based on Mogwai, I recommend The Verve, particularly the early stuff which is prog-y as shit. Based on Sigur Ros I recommend Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Based on Antony and the Johnsons, I suggest Rufus Wainright.
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Post by: Lines on 28 Jun 2008, 09:16
Man Man, Okkervil River and The New Pornographers. All three bands who I constantly have on repeat.

Man Man is so much fun.

Other bands that aren't listed to look into are I'm From Barcelona, Cat Power, Inara George, Minus the Bear (maybe), and Andrew Bird.
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Post by: imagist42 on 28 Jun 2008, 09:36
About half of the bands on your list lead me to believe you'd like a few albums that came out this year: Visiter by The Dodos and the self-titled albums by Vampire Weekend and Fleet Foxes. I will second all of This Will Destroy You/Okkervil River/Explosions in the Sky/American Analog Set, and add Spoon and Voxtrot for more Austinite awesomeness (although neither suggestion is necessarily catered to your taste based on the bands you listed).
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Post by: Kai on 28 Jun 2008, 10:29
I am going to recommend Will Oldham/Bonnie 'Prince' Billy/Palace/Palace Music/Palace Brothers/ohjesussomanynames. He goes under various pseudonyms and group names. I am kind of loosely basing this recommendation off of Antony and the Johnsons. I'd wager that The Letting Go is a good record to start with (under the Bonnie 'Prince' Billy name).

Also: Nina Nastasia. The record she did with Jim White last year was exceptionally pretty.
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Post by: jimbunny on 28 Jun 2008, 10:38
Joanna Newsom

For reals.
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Post by: IronOxide on 28 Jun 2008, 10:54
Yelley, I do not think I have met anyone that likes any kind of singer-songwritery music that does not enjoy Nina Nastasia.

Her recent album with Jim White, You Follow Me was pretty stellar, in addition to her older ones On leaving and Dogs.
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Post by: sean on 28 Jun 2008, 11:23
Low
This Will Destroy You
-Explosions In The Sky
-Mono
Godspeed You! Black Emperor

All of these I second. I'm also gonna throw out A Silver Mt. Zion, Vic Chesnutt, and Yndi Halda. All very good.
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Post by: RobbieOC on 28 Jun 2008, 14:47
The Weakerthans - Reconstruction Site
The Weakerthans - Reunion Tour
The Weakerthans - Left and Leaving
The Weakerthans - Fallow
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Post by: johnny5 on 28 Jun 2008, 16:07
yelley, i like the bands you have on your ipod. pretty solid selection. based on those bands, i would suggest you give these bands a try (i can upload a couple of songs from each if you'd like)


Architecture in Helsinki
Band of Horses
Belle & Sebastian (everyone's got to try them sooner or later)
The Boy Least Likely To
Built to Spill (kind of a indulgent pick, since honestly they aren't quite as poppy as the other bands listed...still highly rec'd though)
Elliott Smith
Her Space Holiday
The Panda Band
Pinback
The Soft Lightes
Stars
The Tough Alliance
Voxtrot


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Post by: De_El on 28 Jun 2008, 19:27
I think you might like The Walkmen.
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Post by: imagist42 on 28 Jun 2008, 22:50
johnny5's entire post is full of win.
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Post by: PapitoSlapGuitar on 29 Jun 2008, 09:19
you should try some stuff that's way out there from that list too, might i suggest

Gogol Bordello (Gypsy Punks)
Screaming Headless Torsos (1995)
any of Bela Fleck's work (Outbound is a good starter)
Funkadelic (Maggot Brain)
Kif! (i don't remember what that album is called)
Jamiroquai (Return of the Space Cowboy)
the Bosstones (Jacknife to a Swan)
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2008, 11:41
Architecture in Helsinki

THE ONLY GOOD POST IN THIS THREAD
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Post by: yelley on 29 Jun 2008, 12:46
thanks for all the suggestions so far, guys. i have downloaded a few and i am listening... good job on whoever suggested things we lost in the fire.
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Post by: Liz on 30 Jun 2008, 09:42
Other bands that aren't listed to look into are I'm From Barcelona, Cat Power, Inara George, Minus the Bear (maybe), and Andrew Bird.

Andrew Bird indeed.

Andrew Fucking Bird.

SO GOOD.
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Post by: De_El on 30 Jun 2008, 09:43
I was just wondering if anyone thought to mention him. "So good," indeed. He is a man who whistles in his socks. Who could not love a man who whistles in his socks?
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Post by: imapiratearg on 30 Jun 2008, 09:48
Architecture in Helsinki

THE ONLY GOOD POST IN THIS THREAD

I listen to basically all the stuff Yelley first posted, and I tried listening to Architecture in Helsinki, and I just could not get into it.  So, I'm just going to have to disagree.  Might be different for her, though.
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Post by: MrSteevo on 30 Jun 2008, 12:10
From the list I'd Second
Stars.
Also, for guys like Iron and Wine pick up:
Bon Iver
Great Lake Swimmers
and I've found Radical Face to be great too.
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Post by: Cartilage Head on 30 Jun 2008, 12:48
 Ratatat, duh.
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Post by: KvP on 30 Jun 2008, 16:19
Yelley, I am going to send you so much music you won't think it's all that funny.
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Post by: jeph on 30 Jun 2008, 16:46
Hercules & Love Affair
Broken Social Scene
seconding Pinback and Grandaddy
early Death Cab for Cutie (nothing newer than we have the facts)
Dungen
Band of Horses
American Analog Set
Spoon
Seam
Stephen Malkmus/Pavement
The Notwist
Oh No Oh My
My Dad Vs Yours
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Post by: MrSteevo on 30 Jun 2008, 16:48
Great List Jeph, but I've been having trouble finding the Oh no! Oh My! Album.
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Post by: 20 jazz funk greats on 30 Jun 2008, 16:53
yelley, do you listen to any shoegaze at all?
i think you should, since you seem to dig mellow stuff.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 30 Jun 2008, 18:11
Great List Jeph, but I've been having trouble finding the Oh no! Oh My! Album.

Tada! (http://www.mediafire.com/?70nngwyhw0b)
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Post by: imagist42 on 30 Jun 2008, 22:24
early Death Cab for Cutie (nothing newer than we have the facts)

this is very confusing
since when is Transatlanticism not their best album
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Post by: jeph on 30 Jun 2008, 23:14
Since always.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jun 2008, 23:19
Any Modest Mouse from before 2004. After that they lost their unique sound and simple guitar riffage and traded it in for Franz Ferdinand-esque poppy shit.

Not like I don't like Franz Ferdinand, but they're not fuckin' Modest Mouse.
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Post by: johnny5 on 01 Jul 2008, 08:52

I listen to basically all the stuff Yelley first posted, and I tried listening to Architecture in Helsinki, and I just could not get into it.  So, I'm just going to have to disagree.  Might be different for her, though.

That's true, if she were going to try it, i'd probably recommend she download Fingers Crossed first...it gets a little more silly and ADHA after that. i still thinkk they're good though, imo.

a few more rec's after going over my itunes...i'm not sure if what you listed is all you have or just a sample, so if i suggest some really obvious artists...woops

Clear Tigers  - Brutal (album)
Dirty Three - S/t (in case GS!YE is too long :p)
Eisley - their EPs (their debut LP had most of the songs from their EPs, but I like the recordings a lot better than the ones on the LP. i haven't heard their new album yet thouhg)
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic (everyone should rock out to this album a few times)
M. Ward - Post-War
Rilo Kiley - More Adventurous (kind of iffy about which album to put down but eh)


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Post by: Jackie Blue on 01 Jul 2008, 10:07
since when is Transatlanticism not their best album

Since when is Narrow Stairs not the only thing they've done that I like.

I still maintain that the full-length version of "I Will Possess Your Heart" is the song of the year so far.
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Post by: The Flux Liner on 01 Jul 2008, 13:55
Porcupine Tree - "Lightbulb Sun"

Nick Cave - "Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus"

Hum - "Downward Is Heavenward"

Everything by Ween

And yes, you should really check out Andrew Bird. His best album in my opinion is: "Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs".
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Post by: jeph on 01 Jul 2008, 14:20
Porcupine Tree - "Lightbulb Sun"

AAAAAUUUUGH

Hum - "Downward Is Heavenward"

oh okay you redeemed yourself

you may live
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Post by: himynameisjulien on 01 Jul 2008, 22:51
You only really need to buy three albums to get pretty much every sound ever
The Moon and Antarctica - Modest Mouse
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band - The Beatles
London Calling - The Clash
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Post by: imagist42 on 01 Jul 2008, 22:55
I still maintain that the full-length version of "I Will Possess Your Heart" is the song of the year so far.

I still maintain that there should be no way to like that song so much and not enjoy some of their older songs. It's not like it's vastly different from anything else they've ever done. If you just like the proggy jamming, "We Looked Like Giants" has always been suitable for that, and if you liked the lyrical side then "I Will Follow You into the Dark" far supercedes it, I think. Hell, "We Laugh Indoors" has both to some degree.

Also, the guy above me has obvious done extensive damage to his brain system things with heavy drugs, so please don't be enticed by his pormises of "every sound ever."
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Post by: Thrillho on 02 Jul 2008, 05:52
Nick Cave - "Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus"

I recommend this album to everyone everwhere. I've rarely seen a double album with such little fat on it.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Jul 2008, 07:37
You only really need to buy three albums to get pretty much every sound ever
The Moon and Antarctica - Modest Mouse
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band - The Beatles
London Calling - The Clash

WIN
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Post by: The Flux Liner on 02 Jul 2008, 07:55
I recommended this particular Nick Cave album because it really has something for everyone. And its good to hear somebody else likes it, too. Even though it is not my favourite album by him, it is the album to listen to as far as "getting into Nick Cave" is concerned.

And as for "Lightbulb Sun", I think there other albums by PT (a band which is enormously overrated, but still very good) I could have mentioned, like "The Sky Moves Sideways" or "Fear of a Blank Planet". But since the back catalogue of that band is so ''stylistically-inconsistent" I picked a 'transition album' instead.

And yelley, don't forget to check out the terrific music of Glenn Branca somewhere along your journey. Oh...did I really just say that?
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Post by: Kai on 02 Jul 2008, 08:53
the best part is how much better glenn branca is than porcupine tree. Thanks for playing though!
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Post by: yelley on 02 Jul 2008, 09:09

And yelley, don't forget to check out the terrific music of Glenn Branca somewhere along your journey. Oh...did I really just say that?

all i saw here was journey.

JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL. LIVIN' IN A LOOOONELY WORLD.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Jul 2008, 09:10
JUST A CITY BOY,
BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH DETROIT
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Post by: Thrillho on 02 Jul 2008, 09:22
I recommended this particular Nick Cave album because it really has something for everyone. And its good to hear somebody else likes it, too. Even though it is not my favourite album by him, it is the album to listen to as far as "getting into Nick Cave" is concerned.

Indeed, it is the album which got me into Nick Cave, it has my second favourite of his songs ('There She Goes, My Beautiful World') on it... it's brilliant stuff.

I think his best is... actually, I'm just going to link you to the articles I wrote about him:
http://rockmidgets.com/releases.php?p=1&page=3&id=2585 - review of Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
http://www.rockmidgets.com/releases.php?p=2&page=3&id=1845 - review of Abattoir Blues Tour album
http://rockmidgets.com/features.php?page=4&id=1294 - 'bluffer's guide' to Nick Cave

[/shameless plug]
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Post by: MusicScribbles on 02 Jul 2008, 09:53
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i318/tommydski/TS_Sloan.png)

It had to be done.
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Post by: MusicScribbles on 02 Jul 2008, 10:47
Not unless it becomes present in every thread I ever post in. It will become my sig!
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Post by: tommydski on 03 Jul 2008, 19:49
US MAPLE (http://www.questionablecontent.net/rlblog/2008/01/so-you-know-what-will-get-you-you-know.html).

That article was genuinely written for and inspired by Yelley.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jul 2008, 06:29
early Death Cab for Cutie (nothing newer than we have the facts)

I dunno Jeph. I thought The Photo Album was pretty solid.
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Post by: Lines on 06 Jul 2008, 13:47
Yelley, you might also enjoy The Weepies and if you want something more electro-poppy, Shiny Toy Guns are fun, too. Someone said Eisley's EPs and I agree with that too.
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Post by: jeph on 06 Jul 2008, 19:09
early Death Cab for Cutie (nothing newer than we have the facts)

I dunno Jeph. I thought The Photo Album was pretty solid.

Augh, no way. SO WHINY even by DCFC standards. Between the "LA Is Dumb" and "My Dad Is A Cunt" songs I can't bear to listen to it anymore.

My favorite thing about Facts, and something I think is sadly lacking in virtually anything Ben Gibbard has touched since, is its understatement. Everything with newer DCFC and the Postal Service (which, to be honest, I still enjoy) is all "HEY GUYS CHECK IT OUT MY HEART IS ON MY SLEEVE RIGHT HERE LOOK YOU CAN POKE MY VENTRICLES," and it's disappointing to me because I think he's capable of more subtlety than that.

Man I hate bashing on the guy, he has made a record that I genuinely think is a classic and I know it's shitty to be That Guy On The Internet Who Bashes You Because He Liked Your Earlier Work Better...but yeah.
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 06 Jul 2008, 20:19
and if you haven't already get some of the flaming lips, they're great :D

as for lesser known stuff try "the shaky hands" "the dandy warhols" infact just get a plane ticket to portland
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 06 Jul 2008, 20:22

some may hate me for this but i can't stand death cab for cutie, any of their shit. period, sorry jeph and everybody else
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Post by: Moist Cowboy on 08 Jul 2008, 00:36
I agree with everyone who says Stars.
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Post by: SleeperCylon on 08 Jul 2008, 15:07
TV On The Radio, Sufjan Stevens, The Bellrays, The Drive By Truckers, Nick Cave, Portishead, Hercules and Love Affair, The National, LCD Soundsystem...
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Post by: Patrick on 09 Jul 2008, 03:49
I wonder how you came to the conclusion that Portishead sounds even remotely like anything worth listening to.

fixd
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jul 2008, 04:26
roffle.
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Post by: johnny5 on 09 Jul 2008, 10:09
while Portishead isn't a bad suggestion, I'm more baffled by TV on the Radio, Drive By Truckers and Nick Cave...

and Sufjan Stevens is just boring. there, i said it.
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 09 Jul 2008, 13:22
I've been tempted to do this to you on the phone a few times, buuuuuuut..

-Explosions In The Sky
-Mono
-American Analog Set
-Colossal
-Owls

i love you.
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Post by: valiantninja on 09 Jul 2008, 14:33
I say: Black Mountain, Rheostatics, Bridezilla, The Dismemberment Plan?

Also I second Mountain Goats and Flaming Lips.

(If you don't like the bands I posted, it's probably because I'm terrible at distinguishing links in music. They all have guitars though. That's a link right?)
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Post by: MrBlu on 09 Jul 2008, 17:16
Maybe you'd like Spoon, Sloan, Okkervil River, Leander, The Whitest Boy Alive, Tilly And The Wall, The Weakerthans, and Pink Nasty...

EDIT::
Ok, I'm kinda late on these bands, sooo:
Go Go Go Airheart
Two If By Sea
Thomas Lunch
Kinetic Stereokids
Hot Hot Heat
Bang Gang
1986
Bridges and Powerlines
Amplifco
Broken Social Scene (For a fun time, listen to their song "Love and Mathematics" and read through the XKCD archives)
Yo La Tengo
Chikita Violenta
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 09 Jul 2008, 18:07
and Sufjan Stevens is just boring. there, i said it.



can we like... have a baby together or somethin? i have fallen for you
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Post by: jeph on 09 Jul 2008, 18:47
gross
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Post by: *Sights* on 09 Jul 2008, 18:48
Mmm....if you're ready to "come out from your rock", i'd suggest to listening to things that could not really be listed under the umbrella term "indie". Or post rock (for that matter) Not that there's anything wrong with liking indie (or that it's even a genre per se, with a clearly definable sound, etc) Just.......try to branch out, i guess.

As i know that's not as easy as it sounds, you could start by listening to things that sound "kind of" like the things you posted in your list, but are either more challenging/older,etc.

For example, if you like post-rock, try listening to challenging post rock....like Gastr del Sol. They more or less lack the instrumental crescendos that permeate the whole genre of post-rock but are awesome in their own way.

Anyway, some random things i suggest, given your tastes:

-Television (GET. MARQUEE MOON. NOW.)
-Joy Division
-Talking Heads
-Battles
-Sonic Youth
-Fugazi

I know it's rather useless if i don't post any download links, but still, try listening to one or two of the above bands.
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Post by: MrBlu on 09 Jul 2008, 18:53
Eugh... I'm sorry, but the first time I listened to Joy Division, was the song Atmosphere, it turned me off...

I LOVE Battles tho'. So kudos there.
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 09 Jul 2008, 21:14
sorry, but television sucks, and always have, except for minis demilo song the rest is just... crap
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Jul 2008, 01:56
Man, I don't even know who Television are, but I'm going to check them out just to spite you.

I will agree with you on the Sufjan Stevens comment though. I hate that guy.
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Post by: Spluff on 10 Jul 2008, 02:43
Dalconnsuch : The guy that hates everything, ever.
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Post by: johnny5 on 10 Jul 2008, 07:29
sorry, but television sucks, and always have, except for minis demilo song the rest is just... crap

if we're going to get nasty, there's going to have to be some ground rules

no branding
safe word is tangerines
television does not suck
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Post by: imapiratearg on 10 Jul 2008, 07:31
sorry, but television sucks, and always have, except for minis demilo song the rest is just... crap

Die in a fire.
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 10 Jul 2008, 08:13
sorry, but television sucks, and always have, except for minis demilo song the rest is just... crap

You fail.
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 10 Jul 2008, 16:10

And yelley, don't forget to check out the terrific music of Glenn Branca somewhere along your journey. Oh...did I really just say that?

all i saw here was journey.

JUST A SMALL TOWN GIRL. LIVIN' IN A LOOOONELY WORLD.


[gouges his own eyes out with toothpicks and eats his own face]
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 10 Jul 2008, 16:16
sorry, but television sucks, and always have, except for minis demilo song the rest is just... crap

if we're going to get nasty, there's going to have to be some ground rules

no branding
safe word is tangerines
television does not suck


isn't saying "television does not suck" seem to go along the lines with "branding?" iono, some would view that as a double standard


so i don't like television, never could, i was just expressing my opinion, if this bothers everybody i'll take my copy of free speech and go weep in the corner

or just say it anyways!

i don't like em,

let the lynching continue
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Post by: *Sights* on 10 Jul 2008, 17:45
Wishing for your death in a fire is also free speech.

All's cool.
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Post by: GenericName on 10 Jul 2008, 17:57
Man, no one's seconding The Weakerthans but that suggestion sent me through my hard drive back to their entire collection and I highly recommend it.
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Post by: rynne on 10 Jul 2008, 19:02
-Television (GET. MARQUEE MOON. NOW.)
-Joy Division
-Talking Heads
-Battles
-Sonic Youth
-Fugazi

Fuck yes.  Remain in Light, Daydream Nation, Unknown Pleasures, etc. 

Also: The Modern Lovers' self-titled debut.  If only everyone making the-music-currently-known-as-emo understood that Jonathan Richman already did awkward teenage angst better than they'll ever manage, there would be a lot fewer shitty bands in the world.
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Post by: MrBlu on 10 Jul 2008, 21:37
Man, no one's seconding The Weakerthans but that suggestion sent me through my hard drive back to their entire collection and I highly recommend it.
I did... I love The Weakerthans... I wish I could go to one of their shows...
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Post by: billiumbean on 11 Jul 2008, 00:50
-the shins
-iron and wine
-mogwai
-jason mraz
-sigur ros
-antony and the johnsons
-kings of convenience
-clap your hands say yeah
-neutral milk hotel
-the decemberists

You've done well, so far.  I, personally, don't even know how to be sick of the Shins, Mogwai, Sigur Ros, or Iron and Wine, though.

Acousticy goodness:
-Sara Lov - Choice songs: "Animals", and "New York".  Her band, Devics, is fantastic, too.  She's also a total babe, if that counts for anything.
-Sea Wolf - Basically, the whole "Get To The River Before It Runs Too Low" EP.
-Devendra Banhart - Listen around, there will be something you like, I guarantee it.
-Bright Eyes - Again, listen around.  Also, not quite acoustic, but a lot of mellow stuff.
-Belle and Sebastian - Everything.  Yeah.

Shoegazy Space-rock:
-Silversun Pickups - EVERYTHING.  Well, "Lazy Eye", "Kissing Families", "Well Thought Out Twinkles" are starters.
-The Secret Machines - "Now Here Is Nowhere", "Lightning Blue Eyes", "Alone, Jealous, and Stoned".  Holy fuck, these guys are amazing.
-Panda Riot.  Eety beety band at the moment.  Choice songs, uh, hrm, their MySpace stuff plus a song called "Marker"

Unclassified Amazing:
-The Arcade Fire - Funeral.  Yes, the entire album.
-TV On The Radio - Start at Young Liars - EP and work your way up.
-Eulogies - "Life Boat", "One Man", "If I Knew You".  Adding them on MySpace got me a "Hellooooo" comment from them, which is cool.

Good luck.
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Post by: dalconnsuch on 11 Jul 2008, 03:03
if you yourself play an instrument i have a musical fetish on getting albums by musicians who pretty m uch masturbate with their instruments

guitar? joe satriani or steve vai (i don't dig the vai)

bass? victor wooten
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Post by: imapiratearg on 11 Jul 2008, 09:20
Man, no one's seconding The Weakerthans but that suggestion sent me through my hard drive back to their entire collection and I highly recommend it.
I did... I love The Weakerthans... I wish I could go to one of their shows...

I totally seconded The Weakerthans, guys.  You should totally go to one of their shows.  They're fantastic.
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Post by: MrBlu on 11 Jul 2008, 10:27
Hopefully if I'm in Canada for Christmas, I'll catch one.
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Post by: amok on 11 Jul 2008, 10:51
Shoegazy Space-rock:
-Silversun Pickups - "Well Thought Out Twinkles"

hell yeah
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Jul 2008, 02:37
if you yourself play an instrument i have a musical fetish on getting albums by musicians who pretty m uch masturbate with their instruments

There are so many reasons you and I can never be friends, and this sentence just added another 10 years to the warranties on all of them.
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Post by: MrBlu on 12 Jul 2008, 20:32
if you yourself play an instrument i have a musical fetish on getting albums by musicians who pretty m uch masturbate with their instruments

guitar? joe satriani or steve vai (i don't dig the vai)

bass? victor wooten
I got you covered. (http://www.wetriffs.com)
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Post by: Tom on 13 Jul 2008, 15:10
Zumpano - really off-kilter, sweet, charming power pop with copious dashes of Carl Newman.
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Post by: turnipsquid on 14 Jul 2008, 21:01
I'd just like to say that I am basically in the same position as yelley, give or take or exchange a couple/several bands. Thus, I found this thread extremely helpful and exciting and otherwise delectable. So now all that remains is finding time to go and find these musics and play their beautiful, beautiful sound waves through my skull. Mmmm, skullwaves!



(edited for correctness)
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Post by: Internet Hate Machine on 14 Jul 2008, 21:04
Nine Black Alps.
The Postal Service.
Porcupine Tree.
Josh Pyke.
Nick Drake.
Colin Hay.
Death Cab for Cutie.
Albert Hammond Jr.

They are all good groups. And you can't get sick of The Shins.
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Post by: JediBendu on 14 Jul 2008, 21:33
And you can most definitely get sick of The Shins.

Fixed.
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Post by: Alex C on 14 Jul 2008, 22:18
Eugh... I'm sorry, but the first time I listened to Joy Division, was the song Atmosphere, it turned me off...

Fight you.
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Post by: MrBlu on 14 Jul 2008, 22:22
Nine Black Alps.
The Postal Service.
Porcupine Tree.
Josh Pyke.
Nick Drake.
Colin Hay.
Death Cab for Cutie.
Albert Hammond Jr.
Are you joking?
They are all good groups. And you can't get sick of The Shins.
Redemption.
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Post by: Runner4406pack on 14 Jul 2008, 22:28
I'm going to agree on the great suggestions, [Rant] I have been stuck in the Genesis of Rock, which in itself is not bad but I tend to be out of tune with everyone except when it comes to a musical debate of origins and the like. [/Rant]
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 15 Jul 2008, 10:28
Eugh... I'm sorry, but the first time I listened to Joy Division, was the song Atmosphere, it turned me off...

Fight you.

WOAH!!!! Joy Devision was an utterly amazing band, plus, Atmosphere is a great song.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 15 Jul 2008, 10:31
I kind of agree, there's something off-putting about their sound and I can't figure it out.  I can't get into them and I don't know why.
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Post by: Tom on 15 Jul 2008, 15:36
They are all good groups. And you can't get sick of The Shins.

Believe me, I am.
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Post by: RedLion on 15 Jul 2008, 17:04
Opeth's album "Damnation," which is, in opposition to what its name would suggest, soft, mellow, melancholic and peaceful in a depressing way.
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Post by: Bayley on 16 Jul 2008, 20:23
Richard Wagner.
Django Reinhardt.
Bob Dylan.
The Pixies.


Oh and Soulja Boy.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jul 2008, 00:34
Bob Dylan.

Ugh, how many times do I have to hear a recommendation to listen to Dylan in my lifetime? I hate the bastard.
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Post by: Bayley on 18 Jul 2008, 03:15
That's unfortunate for you, sir.
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Post by: GenericName on 18 Jul 2008, 04:26
But Patrick, he's the Conor Oberst of the previous generation
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Post by: MrBlu on 18 Jul 2008, 07:14
Richard Wagner.
Django Reinhardt.
Bob Dylan.
The Pixies.


Oh and Soulja Boy.
As much as I enjoy the pomp, exuberance, and sheer energy that goes into R. Wagner's magnum opera, I don't really think that that's what the OP is looking for...
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Post by: StreetSpirit on 18 Jul 2008, 08:07
Blonde Redhead
The Poison Arrows
Mission of Burma
The Sea and Cake
Maserati
Talkdemonic
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 18 Jul 2008, 10:31
Oh and Soulja Boy.

I really hope you weren't serious...
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Post by: Bayley on 18 Jul 2008, 10:43
Oh and Soulja Boy.

I really hope you weren't serious...


...try rereading my post. i really don't know if i could have laid it on thicker.
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 18 Jul 2008, 10:50
Why in hell would you recommend Soulja Boy?
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Post by: Bayley on 18 Jul 2008, 11:07
wow, dude. wow.

rather than place the blame on somebody's undeveloped irony sensor, let's just blame the internet, k?
no, i would never seriously place any of the four above-mentioned people in the same breath as soulja boy.



but that clearly didn't occur to you. which leaves me to your actual comment.

"Why in hell would you recommend Soulja Boy?"

what the fuck do you care? even if i was recommending soulja boy, is it your place to beat people with "inferior" music taste into submission until they think like you? is there a required listening list for every QC reader? jesus christ, get over yourself.
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 18 Jul 2008, 11:18
Woah calm the hell down man. I have no problem with Rap or Hip Hop or whatever but honestly Soulja Boy isn't that great and is completely overplayed, you don't need to go freaking out, just expressing an opinion, it's what we do on these forums. And i was not belittling your music taste, you just honestly need to calm down.
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Post by: sean on 18 Jul 2008, 11:24
rather than place the blame on somebody's undeveloped irony sensor, let's just blame the internet, k?

Hey kiddo, in case you haven't noticed, sarcasm and irony can be very difficult to portray in a forum setting. And stating "Oh and Soulja Boy" isn't the kind of phrase that makes it seem that your being sarcastic.
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Post by: Bayley on 18 Jul 2008, 11:49
i assumed that suggesting he listen to soulja boy after name-dropping wagner, django, dylan and the pixies would pull off the irony. but perhaps you're right.
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Jul 2008, 13:41
I think Bayley is my new lover.
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Post by: Tom on 18 Jul 2008, 14:46
I think he's awesome but, he should just go sit down in a corner and take deep breaths for a while.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2008, 02:41
That's unfortunate for you, sir.

Why do you say that? I don't care for his recordings. His music? It's tolerable. But if you're going to be a performing and recording artist, get better at the 'performing' and 'recording' bits if you're already good at the 'art' bit. Guy's got a voice like nails on a chalkboard.
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Post by: MrBlu on 19 Jul 2008, 12:47
rather than place the blame on somebody's undeveloped irony sensor, let's just blame the internet, k?

Hey kiddo, in case you haven't noticed, sarcasm and irony can be very difficult to portray in a forum setting. And stating "Oh and Soulja Boy" isn't the kind of phrase that makes it seem that your being sarcastic.
...

I'm not taking sides here, but I kinda figured out he was joking...

And if he was serious, he would have included Soulja Boy in the original list...
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Post by: Bayley on 19 Jul 2008, 13:15
That's unfortunate for you, sir.

Why do you say that? I don't care for his recordings. His music? It's tolerable. But if you're going to be a performing and recording artist, get better at the 'performing' and 'recording' bits if you're already good at the 'art' bit. Guy's got a voice like nails on a chalkboard.


i've never come up with a good argument against the voice thing, except that i personally disagree. though there are huge sections of his career where i do agree. but for his most recent three albums or so, the early-mid 70's, and the 60's i'm sort of unable to argue about dylan because for me it seems to have tapped into the area of the brain usually reserved for religious faith. my argument would consist of "....but he's so gooood..." and i'm afraid that likely would not convince you.
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Post by: Thrillho on 19 Jul 2008, 14:12
I've always thought Dylan was underrated vocalist. He's extremely nasal obviously so clearly some people will hate him anyway, but as far as competence I mean. I think both Desire and Blood On The Tracks have some stellar vocal performances on them.
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Post by: Mr. Mojo on 19 Jul 2008, 20:41
I liked the vocals on Highway 61 Revisited.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Jul 2008, 01:23
I've always thought Dylan was underrated vocalist. He's extremely nasal obviously so clearly some people will hate him anyway, but as far as competence I mean. I think both Desire and Blood On The Tracks have some stellar vocal performances on them.

Idunno, man, just because my dad's painful falsetto can hit the notes and even ad-lib well doesn't mean he's a great singer. And Pavarotti didn't make a living off of a harmonica in his throat.
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Post by: Thrillho on 23 Jul 2008, 05:55
Pat, I seriously have no idea what the hell the first sentence of your post means.

Quite apart from which, being a great vocalist isn't always about competence, it's about feeling, passion etc. Granted, feeling and passion aren't always there in Dylan's work - but then a lot of people like that about him, the can't-be-arsed attitude, the bohemian cool among a bunch of cool bohemians.

And Pavarotti also didn't make any music that I give a shit about, so I suggest you make a better example.
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Post by: Bayley on 23 Jul 2008, 19:39
Quite apart from which, being a great vocalist isn't always about competence, it's about feeling, passion etc. Granted, feeling and passion aren't always there in Dylan's work - but then a lot of people like that about him, the can't-be-arsed attitude, the bohemian cool among a bunch of cool bohemians.


yes.

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Post by: GenericName on 23 Jul 2008, 20:13
Yeah DK that quote basically says "Dylan had passion and feeling which is more important than singing skill, but what a lot of people like about him is that there was no passion or feeling in his singing."

Or so it reads to me. Clarify?
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Post by: Bayley on 23 Jul 2008, 22:23
i think he meant (and this is the reason i affirmed his statement) is that there is passion and feeling in dylan's music; these are usually the periods in which people like him because he actually sounds good. though he may not have a technically "good" sounding voice.

however, just as often in dylan's career, there has been a seeming lack of these redeeming qualities. these are usually the periods where the critics bash him, the public doesn't dig him much (the late 70's-all through the 80's), and even the hardcore fans are a bit disappointed with him. however, the fact that he appears to not give the slightest shit what anyone thinks, and sometimes goes so far as to deliberately make bad albums (apparently he has admitted this, though i have never seen that claim backed up), gives him that bohemian bad-ass cool DK referenced. which i have to admit wins me over as well. youtube his interview with ed bradley on 60 minutes.

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Post by: RedLion on 24 Jul 2008, 00:54
The only Dylan record that I like--and it happens to be one of my favorite records period--is Blonde on Blonde. He tones down the nasally whine, and the music is beautiful. Of course. Highway 61... and Blood on the Tracks are classics, and the Freewheelin' Bob Dylan is nice, but I just get sick of them after a few songs. Blonde on Blonde is the only one I can listen to the whole way through without getting annoyed. So I totally agree with you Patrick. And it's nice to know that others feel that way. Saying that to so many people is like sacrilege. People think that Bob Dylan is untouchable and can't conceive that some people don't worship him as an artist or a musician.
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Post by: Thrillho on 24 Jul 2008, 06:00
Yeah DK that quote basically says "Dylan had passion and feeling which is more important than singing skill, but what a lot of people like about him is that there was no passion or feeling in his singing."

Or so it reads to me. Clarify?

I said feeling, passion etc. as being general referring to vocalists, not just Dylan. And I also said, granted these aren't ALWAYS there in Dylan's work, and the can't be arsed attitude is basically the way he approaches everything else, not his singing specifically.
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Post by: johnny5 on 24 Jul 2008, 07:09
how come all these threads always end in a bunch of arguing? it doesnt even seem like discussion to me
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Post by: Lines on 24 Jul 2008, 11:52
Some people don't like Bob Dylan and some people do, but this isn't helping Yelley find new music.

More music you might like: The Ting Tings ("Shut Up and Let Me Go" you might have heard), Pernice Brothers, Inara George, and the Sounds.
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Post by: Thrillho on 24 Jul 2008, 12:42
how come all these threads always end in a bunch of arguing? it doesnt even seem like discussion to me

That's not true. Fuck you! You bastard!




...Fucker!
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Post by: Thrillho on 24 Jul 2008, 13:18
Fuck you! Who the fuck are you to say 'fuck you' to me, motherfucker?
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Post by: Lines on 24 Jul 2008, 14:29
I don't think Jens has ever sexed up your mom. But if you guys want to bone each other, that's cool. Man love is good.
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Post by: MrBlu on 24 Jul 2008, 17:58
Fuck you! Who the fuck are you to say 'fuck you' to me, motherfucker?
I hope your mom gets cancer.

Fucker.
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Post by: yelley on 26 Jul 2008, 20:48
man, what is this thread even about now?
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Post by: Tom on 26 Jul 2008, 20:55
fucking
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jul 2008, 03:09
Specifically, how much I would love to perform oral sex on Gaz.
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Post by: ComfortEagle on 30 Jul 2008, 21:36
Great List Jeph, but I've been having trouble finding the Oh no! Oh My! Album.

Tell me about it. Luckily, they finally played a show in my city, which was kind of random but excellent, so I was able to pick it up, well the self titled anyway.
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Post by: Lines on 31 Jul 2008, 08:33
man, what is this thread even about now?

I don't really know. But have you found more music you like?