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Fun Stuff => BAND => Topic started by: himynameisjulien on 01 Jul 2008, 22:39
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I'd say tuning your guitar so when all strings are played it's an E chord (EBEAbBE), then taking it 2 or 3 semitones down and using a slide. Add your coolest sound.
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Oh man, open E slide guitar is nothing. I mean, it's fun and all but in terms of cool/freaky/just plain weird, it's the tip of the iceberg.
I once ran my semi-hollow through a volume pedal, a super long delay a reverb and I think something else. I created these super long swells and fades on the volume pedal and played with a slide. The result sounded like a whale.
Tom Morello used to be awesome at coming up with strange things to do with a guitar, before he turned into an angry folk singer.
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haha, I like your description of Tom. In an old interview he even says it's practically "and now i will create a sound" and he creates one. I must try that whale sound if I get a volume pedal. that sounds insane. long as in 500ms or as in 3s?
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It was under a second. I don't remember exactly how long, I did it a while ago. I think 700-800 ms, somewhere around there.
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I love running my DOD gonkulator at ten on every setting...sounds like a band of martians.
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I'm putting my vote in for BZZZZZZZOWWWWWWWWWW, or possibly BRARRP BRARRP BRARRRP
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actually never mind it is
DOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWW, BWAK BWAK BWAK, BWAK BWAK BWAK
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Pinch Harmonics... Totally..
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I like natural more than pinch, but harmonics are cool all the time.
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I like natural more than pinch, but harmonics are cool all the time.
Lenny Breau-style "harp" harmonics are the aural equivalent of having chocolate-covered strawberries and whipped cream fed to you by a trio of Victoria's Secrets models.
I need to learn how to do those.
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Paul Gilbert.
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The feedback that bleeds into a bend at your highest fret on your highest string, with whammy bar on it.
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There are so many. I think when I play guitar, I try for too many sounds, and I don't have enough money to get all of them. I like fuzzed out sounds. Also, feedback is so cool.
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actually never mind it is
DOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWW, BWAK BWAK BWAK, BWAK BWAK BWAK
hey hey my my?
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AND INTO THE BLACK
johnny beat me to it
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3:16 - 3:30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eet1t3sfL8w)
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Distortion pedal (gain, volume on full) + delay pedal + amp with full distortion and volume. Play slow doom or shoegazey riffs; repeat for a couple of hours.
Adding a cello bow into the mix is also good. That's pretty much the best guitar tone you can get.
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Electric toothbrush + echo/reverb with relatively slow decay. Builds up these really cool crashing crescendos. I suppose you could use an ebow, but this is cheaper and fights plaque at the same time.
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And lord knows my guitar has plaque issues.
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People say some of my noise tracks sound like power tools, but really..it's just a guitar.
I'm giving myself six points for making my guitar sound like a reciprocating saw.
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Three words:
Big Muff Pi
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Guys, you're all wrong. Whatever it is that he does, Matthew Cooper aka Eluvium has already figured out the answer to this topic. Sorry everyone.
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The wet gurgling from your drummer's severed trachea as you saw his head off with your B string.
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Alternately, this chord in drop-C with the gain on your amp cranked all the way up:
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Don't know, but if I had to guess, it's somewhere on that album that doesn't exist where Marc Ribot covers Keiji Haino tunes.
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Alternately, this chord in drop-C with the gain on your amp cranked all the way up:
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that is a rather rad chord. However this one (tune down 5 semitones or so) sounds better imo, especcially with lots of distortion/volume:
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3
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Yeah, it's just a d/f# shape but it is pretty damn awesome. Surprising just how good some of the simpler chords can sound.
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in standard E
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On topic of chords, semi-barres are good too. A semi-E shape would be
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And a semi-A shape
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I find it adds extra distinguishing between the A and E shapes, as in transposed one string up. Like a warmer, happier power chord.
Does anyone use alternate power chords? As in
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x
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How is that a power chord? It's a D major triad. A power chord doesn't contain the 3.
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Sorry, all my friends just called them alternate power chords so I guess that's what I got used to calling them. But yes there is no octave.
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Octaves are nothing to do with power chord. A power chord consist of the root and fifth, not a third. The chord you posted has a third.
Tell your friends I hate them. *shakes fist*
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Okay, but if a diad consists of only the root and the third, is it a power chord?
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Isn't the definition of a power chord a two-note chord (Yeah, technically not a chord, but don't care enough to find the correct term)? Seems like a 1-3 diad would be then.
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A power chord is a fifth chord. A 1-3 diad couldn't be a power chord because power chords are neither major nor minor.
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Lee Ronaldo
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Coolset sound I ever manged to get out of a guitar involved a half-decent guitar amp, fully distorted and cranked, and a broken bass guitar.
It sounded like thunder.
Or really, really musical dinosaur farts.
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Oren (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAcoF_Xme0A) Ambarchi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXP3smULLL4).
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Coolset sound I ever manged to get out of a guitar involved a half-decent guitar amp, fully distorted and cranked, and a broken bass guitar.
It sounded like thunder.
Or really, really musical dinosaur farts.
Actually this reminds me. Greatest sound I ever got out of a guitar, was fucking around with one of my buddies' multi-FX pedal, I managed to create a kind of rolling, moving feedback that actually moved between two notes. It was like a backing track all by itself. I set my organ playing a chord over it in another room and then playing acoustic guitar over this for like, an hour.
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Octaves are nothing to do with power chord. A power chord consist of the root and fifth, not a third. The chord you posted has a third.
Tell your friends I hate them. *shakes fist*
Will do. Dynamite or Kid, which do you prefer? But if it has no octave then it's not a power chord anymore is it? But yes, it isn't either if it doesn't have a fifth. Then its just an octave. But a real power chord also has an octave. It's like cutting the E string note out of A-shape barre chords by using the index-and-ring-finger method (as opposed to all of them), for the sake of convenience and lack of carpal tunnel. It's not complete anymore, and you can tell it's not.
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You can have an octave in a 5 chord, usually making a shape like this:
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but you don't need to, it only needs to have the one and the five, it just sounds... fuller? with an octave.
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'DK' usually suffices. 'Kid' would get most people a slap these days, ha.
There is no specific requirement for a power chord to have an octave, nor is there in any chord. A G chord is G B and D, not G, B, D, G, B and then G again. Or if you use the barre shape, G, D, G, B, D, G. A chord is made of the unique notes.
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all strings tuned to D#
crank up the gain
stand too close the amp
be awesome
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you too can be Lou Reed! just follow E's four step program.
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you're all overcomplicating this quite a bit.
the answer is Boris.
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The band, the song, or just having a russian playing lead?
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The mayor of London.
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Thread over. Boris = win.
Time for some out of date, poorly constructed satire I made many years ago!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DynamiteKid156/Sigs/BorisCollage01.jpg)
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I still can't believe people actually voted for him :evil:
Anyway, thread was won with Hey Hey My My ages ago.
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Thread over. Boris = win
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzwK2IioX-c
Yep.
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'DK' usually suffices. 'Kid' would get most people a slap these days, ha.
There is no specific requirement for a power chord to have an octave, nor is there in any chord. A G chord is G B and D, not G, B, D, G, B and then G again. Or if you use the barre shape, G, D, G, B, D, G. A chord is made of the unique notes.
Ok I get what you're saying. Thanks for clarifying, DK. I like my chords more pitched, however. Also, to mister tune everything to D#, how the hell did you accomplish this? If you aren't joking, that is. I doubt my A or G strings could be tuned to D#.
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No, no, tuning to D# just means tune your entire guitar down a major third (4 semitones) from standard E tuning.
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No no Spluff, he is referring to emilio's post, although you are correct.
all strings tuned to D#
crank up the gain
stand too close the amp
be awesome
Just restring your guitar. Get 6 e strings and tune them down or something like that.
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It'd probably fuck with your bridge too, if you had 6 E strings.
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Well if you can do that without breaking your strings, then sure, that is a much better idea. And thinking about it, it probably would fuck with the bridge.
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No, no, tuning to D# just means tune your entire guitar down a major third (4 semitones) from standard E tuning.
OK now I know you're just messing with me. How the hell ass do you get D# by tuning down 4 semitones? It's only one you have to tune down.
I'd restring my guitar to have all E strings but something tells me it wouldn't work. Just like that time I tuned my guitar to G standard. As in 3 semitones up. Or maybe it was G#, 4 semitones? Either way, do not ever do that.
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He is right, I was thinking D# was D flat, but D# is sharp, just a half step down from E.
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Whoops, for some reason I was thinking of C.
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The coolest sound you can make out of a guitar?
Well it's either the first perfect chord you ever play when you're learning - that amazing moment when you realise "Hey! I can do this! I can Rock!"...
Or it's the sound of someone rocking out while using a Tesla Coil as an Amplifier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSAExHBrfwU).
Y'know, I bet the S.C.R.A has at least three of those.
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Oh my god. That is the craziest thing I have ever seen.
REAL LIGHTNING
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To imapirate, I concur. That is easily the coolest thing guitar-related I have ever seen on the internet. And that includes the cover of "Through the Fire and Flames". Does someone care to explain how that works? Would you just plug your good old 1/4" cable into some modified socket? Also, I don't want to seem stupid for overlooking something obvious, which I suspect I am, but how does a Tesla coil create sound?
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You're not being stupid, most people have never heard of Arc based sound or Plasma Speakers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg-9snu8kf0). What it comes down to is that sound is generated in a loudspeaker by a paper cone being pushed back and forth. That's great for low frequencies but is poor at higher ones. The Arc Speaker or the Tesla Coil use the electrical signal from the guitar pickups to modulate the voltage in the arc. That makes the volume of the arc pulse and drives the air, creating sound. Ordinary speakers drop off at higher frequencies around 14Khz... I think... But the arc is theoretically capable of producing frequencies over 100Khz. There are very very few plasma tweeters available in the world. They use high voltages, high temperatures and produce nitrogen dioxide and ozone so they're mostly restricted to DIYers.
You'd just plug your guitar into a custom amp that fed through a massive transformer and bingo.
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actually never mind it is
DOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWWWW, DUH NA NA NOWWW, BWAK BWAK BWAK, BWAK BWAK BWAK
MASSIVE BUMPING TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS AS TRUE TODAY AS IT WAS WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN
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Yep!
The Weld video was on TV last night. I fucking love Neil Young. What also stands out about him is that he only uses one guitar for the whole show, everyone else now seems to be switching guitars for every song.
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The perfect sound you can make on a guitar is a D7
I can't believe we're even talking about this.
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3:16 - 3:30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eet1t3sfL8w)
Uhm.. 2:12-3:20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgmtmjtmAwU)
But I guess that's blasphemy.
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GOAT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0LBJGHr7pE).SNAKE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOoGBvJBK4).
best. guitar. tone. ever.
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harmonics (both artificial and natural)
and this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg)
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Michio Kurihara's solos on Rainbow are pretty awesome. A very nice, palatable mix of melody and noise.
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GOAT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0LBJGHr7pE).SNAKE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOoGBvJBK4).
best. guitar. tone. ever.
Actually, it's this (http://www.monitorrecords.com/MP3/SlowBurn.mp3). These guitars sound HUGE. It takes about two minutes before the fuzzed-out guitar kicks in.
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Either...
·The whole tone scale in any key
·Tap tempo delay set for a whole measure with feedback at 95-100%
·Any Sleep or Boris riff
·Using a tremolo like My Bloody Valentine
·any Sonic Youth guitar work
·Natural harmonics
·Dissonance in general (tritones, minor seconds, major sevenths, etc.)
·Suspended chords
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Oh man, I love suspended chords.
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Suspended chords are the shit. I also love chords that have any semitone intervals in them.
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Suspended chords are the shit. I also love chords that have any semitone intervals in them.
Minor add 9 are amazing.
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I just was noodling around and wrote a finger picking piece that is based entirely on maj7 chords.
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Line 6 Verbzilla on the "Octo" Setting with the Decay time cranked up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRQ9U1abhd8, 3:50 - end), delay pedal set to about 700ms, and a volume pedal.
Go nuts.
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I really love what happens when you play a 12th-fret harmonic and divebomb the fuck out of your whammy bar (see: "Little Wing").
Second place goes to Clapton's use of a Leslie rotating cabinet in his work with Blind Faith. Not to say that Hendrix didn't use his well in "Little Wing", but when Clapton has his ES-335 sounding like a goddamn Billy Preston organ track, there is nothing you can do or say to take my attention away. Except maybe drown the sound out/hit the stop button, at which point I will slice you.
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The last minute or two of "When I Go Deaf" by Low. It is this beautiful wall of fuzz and delay and awesome.
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Sonic Youth's already been mentioned, but I'd say any of the SYR stuff wins this by a country mile. Holy shit that stuff is intense. Also, what the heck kind of distortion/effect makes that yo-yo-yo sound at the beginning of The Diamond Sea?
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That's crazy. It's like a phaser and a tremolo mixed into one. An envelope filter maybe?
Or some kind of flanger/wah combination?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P3BcghgGpY
This and Godflesh are two of my favorite tones.
Drive Like Jehu made some great noises (end of "Luau" = ahhhhhhhhhhhh).
Oh, and Big Black fo sho.
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Forgot about Big Black.
Call me nuts, but I like Atomizer a bit better than Songs About Fucking
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I REALLY like Colour Haze's. It's the only band I try to sing along to the guitar melodies for.
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That's crazy. It's like a phaser and a tremolo mixed into one. An envelope filter maybe?
Or some kind of flanger/wah combination?
I haven't heard the song itself but I'm assuming it's probably one of those attack-controlled dick-around pedals... Electro-Harmonix (I think it's them) makes one that they call a Q-Tron. I'm pretty sure Pavement's "Porpoise And The Hand Grenade" (Spit On A Stranger EP) uses one pretty heavily.
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That's an envelope filter. The Q-Tron, I mean.
You can hear the song right here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whW7oVPcCYo). It's a pretty sweet song.
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Good to know. I'd be half tempted to get one of those, but then again, I know that my wah pedal has been used maybe 3 times in the 2 years I've owned the fucker.