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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Storm Rider on 14 Jul 2008, 11:00
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E3 is going on throughout this week, which means a whole fuckin' lot of video game news! Microsoft's press conference is going on right now, some tidbits that have dropped so far include:
Too Human demo now available on Live. Downloading it right now, will give impressions later after the conference is over and I have some time to play it.
Fallout 3 drops in October, looks amazing according to absolutely every account I've read. PS3 version will not have any of the DLC of the other two versions.
RE5 gets worldwide release on March 13th, 2009, has online co-op where the second player plays as the girl shown in the last trailer, whose name has been revealed as Sheva. Apparently the trailer shows one of the 'zombies' using a gun.
There's some sort of new Portal game called Portal: Still Alive coming to Xbox Live Arcade soon. Whether it's just the standalone game from the Orange Box or something new isn't really clear.
Fable 2 is out in October, the 'pub game' minigames will actually be a separate Xbox Live Arcade release that will sell for 10 bucks but you can get for free if you preorder the game.
The 20 GB 360 has been dropped to $299, and is being phased out in favor of a 60 GB which will take the old price slot of $349. Kind of a bait-and-switch more than a price drop, but whatever.
Gears 2 is out on November 7th, which we already knew, but they were touting all the new variety in weapons, environments, and enemies during the demo. There's a new co-op mode called Horde where five players have to survive against wave after wave of Locust. Conceptually, reminds me of like Geometry Wars or something, only in shooter form.
As rumored, the 360 interface is getting a serious graphical overhaul, including mini-avatars in a shameless Mii ripoff. Not particularly relevant to games, but... you know. The system was apparently designed by Rare, and will be much more customizable than the Miis, which is nice.
Several new Arcade games announced, including the aforementioned Portal: Still Alive, Uno Rush (which will be the first game to support the new Avatar system), Galaga Legions (which sounds like a Space Invaders Extreme/Pac-Man Championship Edition style re-imagining), and Geometry Wars 2 with 4 player online co-op. Original Banjo Kazooie also hitting XBLA sometime this year.
The XNA-developed Community Games service will also launch in the fall.
First downloadable GTA4 episode to hit Xbox Live sometime this year (which was one of my bets for the Kotaku E3 pool, so let's hope for a Beatles rhythm game so I win some schwag).
New Xbox Live update will include new media partnerships, like online game shows where you can win actual prizes from home, and more importantly a Netflix partnership.
Post more details/previews/whatever if you have them, otherwise let's discuss some vidja games!
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Might as well cross-post -
New Fallout 3 site up (http://www.prepareforthefuture.com/), likely to be updated over the course of E3.
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mega man 9.
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The Portal bit is supposed to be an extended version with more levels and challenges/challenge modes.
Edit: Final Fantasy XIII is now shipping on the 360 at the same time as the PS3 version.
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Kotaku Live E3 Blog thingy just said they announced Final Fantasy XIII....for Xbox 360!?!?!?!!!!!!!!?
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Final Fantasy 13 is officially multiplatform, and coming on the same date as the PS3 version.. Definitely the biggest bomb of the Microsoft conference. Other tidbits from Square Enix's segments include release dates for Infinite Undiscovery and the 360 version of Last Remnant (September 2nd and November 20th, respectively). Star Ocean 4 is coming to the 360 in Spring '09. I assume they would confirm it as an exclusive if it was, so it's probably just leading on 360.
The rumored karaoke game Lips is real, and is being developed by iNis, aka the Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan developers. You can turn music from your iPod/Zune into songs, which is a big deal, and the microphone has some sort of motion sensing built in that affects your score. I guess it's encouraging you to dance or something while you sing, which is neat.
Full Rock Band 2 tracklist is announced, pretty much the same as the one leaked a week or so ago. All 75 licensed songs can be found here. (http://kotaku.com/5025004/breaking-official-rock-band-2-tracklist-revealed)
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Sony's going to have to pull out something huge to overcome that FF13 bomb. Looks like Microsoft is gonna win this E3. Because it's a competition.
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FF vs. XIII is still PS3 exclusive, FFXIII is only going to 360 in NA and EU(which makes sense because...uh...why would Japan car eif it's on 360?)
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It's all but assumed that Sony's going to pull out some God of War 3 in their press conference, but unless it's both actual gameplay and looks really good, I don't think that it'll be enough to overcome the FF13 bomb. Still, Sony has some neat stuff on the horizon, I don't want to belittle what they're offering.
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Alright, that's about it for today. Tomorrow should be the biggest day for announcements, with 5 press conferences rather than only 2 (Nintendo, Sony, Ubisoft, Capcom, and Activision, in that order). Fallout 3 and Dead Space look fucking fantastic from the footage I've seen, but most of the other stuff looked promising as well.
I played through the Too Human demo earlier today, and my reactions are mixed. On the one hand, the combat isn't as exciting as I had hoped, even considering the genre. However, I didn't end up totally hating it (as I had feared I might), and as the demo ended I really did want to play more of the game, which means ultimately I guess it succeeded. I got some neat looking shit by the end (including a bigass warhammer that looked pretty awesome), so the loot aspect certainly seems right for this type of game. I still love the concept, and the demo definitely presented enough of the story to get me interested to see more. I especially loved the contrast between cyberspace and the 'real' world, it's a cool effect.
Several publications are going to be putting up podcasts with impressions on the day's conferences (and other stuff, if they saw it in private). My personal favorites are the 1Up Yours and Giant Bomb podcasts, for those who want to hear some insider opinions.
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what do you guys think of the new dashboard look and the avatars?
i think the new dashboard looks great and i'm excited to see how it looks with my woodgrain theme, although i'm reserving final judgment until we see what the ad situation is going to be like. also, i think the avatars are ugly and unecessary but i'll inevitably end up making one anyway.
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Rock Band 2 tracklist:
UNF
I was absolutely thrilled to see a lot of the tracks on there, namely Dinosaur Jr. and a good Sonic Youth song.
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Dude...I might actually buy Rock Band 2 for that tracklist.
Anyways, I thoroughly enjoyed the Too Human demo. I need to play through it again, I still haven't tried all the different maneuvers. I made 4/6 pieces of a set, which was pretty cool. I'm currently trying to find out how to play as the other classes (supposedly there's a glitch), because I saw some armors I couldn't wear, and I just want to see how they play anyways.
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Dude...I might actually buy Rock Band 2 for that tracklist.
Anyways, I thoroughly enjoyed the Too Human demo. I need to play through it again, I still haven't tried all the different maneuvers. I made 4/6 pieces of a set, which was pretty cool. I'm currently trying to find out how to play as the other classes (supposedly there's a glitch), because I saw some armors I couldn't wear, and I just want to see how they play anyways.
Shit, there's a glitch? Tell me if you figure it out, I'd love to try the other classes. Seems sort of silly that they locked them in the first place, since the demo was limited to about an hour of gameplay anyway.
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Denis Dyack said in a thread earlier (at another forum I post at, no, not NeoGAF) that there would also be Commandos and Berserkers playable. Some people have played as Bioengineers, and one person claims to have all 5 unlocked. As of right now, it seems some people started the demo with stuff unlocked, and some managed to unlock it either from playthrough or from weird button combos. One guy says he just tried to press A on the Commando even with a lock symbol (on his third playthrough) and it let him do that. So I'll probably play it twice tomorrow, see if I can't try other classes. It's a fun demo, anyways, and I paid off the game 2 weeks ago.
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I just wish the Rock Band 2 setlist weren't absolutely terrible for people who like to sing.
I mean, seriously? Half of those songs can't be sung. No, not even by the original artists.
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Just watched the FFXIII trailer/preview thing. Looks like it will be absolutely unbearable. That said, it seems like a very big thing for it to no longer be a PS3 exclusive.
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Also, the new idtech5/Rage trailer has zombies in it. Great. What a surprising new turn id have taken.
The mannerisms of the girl talking in that clip looks makes her look like she is out of a really shitty rom-com or something. You can just tell she's got attitude.
On the plus side, I can't wait until someone makes a decent game with id's new engine. It looks pretty sweet.
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Id's something of a dinosaur these days. I remember buying PC Gamer waaaay back in '97 and reading about the "FPS War" that was to take place in '98 to determine the course of the FPS genre over the coming years. Of the contenders, there was Daikatana, Duke Nukem Forever, SiN, Quake 2, and... some other game that I forget the name of. Anyway, the obvious victor was Half-Life. Id does not do Half-Life style games well, they do meat and potatoes shooters. Doom 3 took some ideas from System Shock but it was overlong and not terribly good. Quake 4, I don't know anybody who played it. Hell, Valve even out-engined Id with Source, which had never happened before (Half-Life 1 was based on the Quake 2 engine) and the only other game I remember using the Doom 3 engine was Prey, which almost doesn't count. John Carmack is and has always been a pretty brilliant programmer (I can't recall ever running into a bug in an Id game) but the market is hungry for a slightly greater level of ambition than Id can manage to come up with.
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Man that FFXIII trailer was so bad. Once again, Square Enix goes on about everything except details about the fucking game.
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I'm still somewhat interested in id's new game. It's supposed to be much more of a driving game than a shooter, so zombies or no zombies, I can run over people. I just have yet to see the driving bits (I have not seen the new trailer yet).
Edit: For Storm Rider and anyone else trying to play multiple classes in the Too Human demo, this thread (http://www.toohuman.net/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=28&func=view&id=33892&catid=2) shows how to at least get the berserker and commando, and possibly the defender and bioengineer. It apparently is just a matter of being really fast with the buttons.
Second edit: Also, changing the year to 2009 (or anything non-2008) seems to unlock the Berserker and Commando.
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Guys, Wii Speak. I....I actually screamed like a little girl. Also, Wii Music and a new Wii Sports game.
Can't really say I am too excited about motion plus though.
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New screens from the upcoming Obsidian-developed espionage RPG, Alpha Protocol.
1 (http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9234/1216141299apscreenshoteas1.jpg)
2 (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4296/1216141299apscreenshoteyw1.jpg)
3 (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/5488/1216141299apscreenshoteqg0.jpg)
4 (http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1599/1216141299apscreenshotefz9.jpg)
5 (http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/577/1216141299apscreenshotejf8.jpg)
6 (http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9908/1216141299apscreenshotexe8.jpg)
7 (http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7562/1216141299apscreenshotemk6.jpg)
I likes it.
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I think Kotaku summed up Nintendo's conference pretty well...it was more like a board meeting than anything else. They announced sequels and peripherals, and showed off sales numbers. Which is pretty much what everyone expected.
Those Alpha Protocol screens do look nice, though. Especially the quadruple-lens goggles.
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A DS GTA game... interesting. Sony just keeps getting slapped up.
Also, fake nerd rage, courtesy of SA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I&eurl=http://kotaku.com/index.php?refId=5025165). I know people who actually talk like that.
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Also, fake nerd rage, courtesy of SA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I&eurl=http://kotaku.com/index.php?refId=5025165). I know people who actually talk like that.
Oh dude, If I ever meet someone like this.......I will kill them SO VERY slowly, as slowly as possible. I know that the dude isn't being serious but honestly that kind of behaviour (because I know people who respond like this to other stuff) gets right under my skin.
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God damn it I am so pissed at Sony right now. They're dropping the 80 GB model to 400 dollars in September, but they're also taking out the backwards compatibility with PS2 games. In other words, Sony decided: "Hey, we made the most successful game console in history, but if you want to play any of the hundreds of great games on our new, struggling system, you're shit out of luck!" It costs them NOTHING to keep the software-based backwards compatibility in. What the hell were they thinking?
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That was announced a while ago though, no? Cause I heard of it like 4 months ago.
Anyway, I'm incredibly excited for Animal Crossing: City Folk, the Wii Speak will be really awesome. I giggled when they talked about the motion plus, skeptic of GTA DS but we never know. Really want to try Wii Music. Hope they'll announce something bigger at Leipzig though. Like more memory space or more information about the "Pay to Play".
I only saw the Fallout 3 part of the Microsoft's conference and It gets me interested in buying one.
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Fallout 3 is multi-platform. I'm snagging my copy for the PC, because Bethesda rocks when it comes to community content.
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Unfortunately Bethsoft aren't planning to release any sort of end-user modification tools with the game (this might change, but it was said just a week or two ago in their forums) but they might release some later on through the web. Who knows. For now you, me, and everybody else is shit out of luck when it comes to correcting the sort of bad design Bethsoft puts in their games. We'll just have to deal.
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BAH!
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Outside of fixing/tweaking gameplay and item/perk mods, I'm not sure how you'd use it. Postapocalyptic DC isn't as conducive to extra dungeons as Tamriel was...there seems to be a significantly larger portion of unique geometry. Since I don't really care about mods that aren't new areas, I'll opt for the 360 version. I may be getting ahead of myself, I know, but I don't see much mod potential in it unless they decide to include 3DSMax/Maya compatability (which they didn't last time).
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It is generally considered Oblivion's saving grace that it was modifiable, because the game with mods was far superior to it without them. Better textures, performance improvements, unofficial patches, new weapons, new dungeons, new clothing, new perks, new towns...
Although I agree that the world of Fallout isn't exactly as kind to new content, I disagree that it won't be sorely missed.
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After more time with it, the Too Human demo is really growing on me. The combat system is much more fun when you get used to it, and I'm enjoying playing through the demo multiple times and see just how different my character looks each time even in such a short gameplay period. I haven't managed to get the other classes open through glitching and I'm still having a good time. Not sure if I'll pay full price for it, but I think it'll be fun, especially in co-op.
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The other thing with a lot of these games is that I like to show these games to my friends. My PC isn't exactly portable (it's fucking huge), so I tend to buy any multiplat game I'm interested in for the 360 so my friends can play it. Sometimes I end up purchasing two copies of things (Orange Box, Halo + Halo PC cuz I had money to burn), if I see a sizeable amount of Fallout 3 stuff (providing end-user tools are released), I'll probably get a PC copy as well. And make something.
And Storm Rider, if you wanna get the Commando and Berserker unlocked, all you gotta do is unhook the ethernet cord, turn the 360 on, and change the year. Not sure why they decided to do a time-lock on those...
I managed to play as a Bioengineer using the glitch...it's definitely harder to finish the challenge areas (you have done those, right? You get a couple armor blueprints if you finish them/beat the time limit that make a pretty sweet set if you can get all 6). But the health regeneration certainly kept me alive in situations that I died using the Champion. I did the Commando briefly, and he's great for taking out shields and missile goblins.
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I did the unplug to unlock the Commando and Berserker, and I really liked the Berserker a lot more than the Champion. None of this 'air-juggling' shit, I just dashed around and beat the shit out of guys to build my combo meter, then unleashed a Ruiner whenever I got mobbed by a lot of guys. Much more fun, and I found I was much more effective with that playstyle anyway. And yeah, I did the secret challenge areas, that optional goblin boss is a bitch if you go fight him too quickly.
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Too Human demo was pretty much exactly what I was expecting it to be, and once I got used to the controls I started having a great ol' time. It looks like it'll satisfy the sick parts of my mind that crave both mindless violence and loot whoring, and seems like a good game to play with a friend and have a chat while smashing robots. Wondering a bit about the difficulty though, haven't really come close to dying once during the demo, and I was able to kill the optional boss without getting hit once by knocking him in the air, doing an air combo, then emptying my guns into him while he was still hanging. Rinse and repeat until dead.
And come on, you get to be a Technoviking.
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Those Alpha Protocol screenshots look intriguing. They have made up for the let down that was the Fallout 3 gameplay videos.
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Gamespot has a look-see at Alpha Protocol (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/alphaprotocol/news.html?sid=6194184)
Our demo began with Michael Thorton, the former spy protagonist who's been cast out of the CIA, overlooking the United States embassy in Moscow. With the story still mostly under wraps, we didn't get much information on what brought Thorton to this location, or what his ultimate goal is once inside, but we were given a look at some of the gameplay basics involved in getting there. It begins with the guard at the front door. You can stroll up to him and try to smooth talk your way in using the game's "Dialogue Stance" system, which is essentially a way of choosing basic emotions over pre-set lines of dialogue, but a few other options exist. If you're the sneaky type, you can try to make it around to the back entrance using stealth, and if you're the straightforward type, you can simple shoot the guard where he stands. That last option carries a penalty, however, because one of the many factions you have to do business with over the course of the game is the Marines, so when they get wind of you killing their own, they're les [sic] inclined to cooperating with you later on...
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Finally, Obsidian finished off by giving us a look at some of the ways your decisions in the game carry consequences that affect you throughout the rest of the story. This time, Thorton was sent to a level in the Middle East to find a weapons dealer named Nasri. When you get to him, you're given the option to let him go, turn him in, or just kill him. If you let him go, you'll lose reputation with the agency that sent you on the mission, if you let him go [sic], you can buy weapons from him whenever you like, and if you kill him, you'll unlock a perk called "Any Last Words." We couldn't pry an explanation out of Obsidian about this perk, but they did tell us it affects your dialogue abilities. Of course, that can't help us from wondering if it might be a technique to help you intimidate people. They know you've killed in the past, so they'll be more willing to dish out information to you--that type of upgrade.
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i'm pretty excited about Alpha Protocol.
to me, it basically sounds like Mass Effect with spys instead of space and that is just fine with me.
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Some more vidyas for yas.
Dead Space:
Demonstration (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36546.html)
RE5:
Demo / walthrough (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36509.html)
Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36226.html)
Alternate Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36581.html)
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This....this is the best thing to come out of E3 in a long, long time. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36746.html)
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God damn it I am so pissed at Sony right now. They're dropping the 80 GB model to 400 dollars in September, but they're also taking out the backwards compatibility with PS2 games. In other words, Sony decided: "Hey, we made the most successful game console in history, but if you want to play any of the hundreds of great games on our new, struggling system, you're shit out of luck!" It costs them NOTHING to keep the software-based backwards compatibility in. What the hell were they thinking?
We haven't had PS2 backwards compatibility in Australian PS3 systems since the original PS3 release. They removed it when they cut down the hard drive sizes here. If you have a PS3 with PS2 compatibility, you are considered rather lucky. The weird thing is, they still play PS1 games. Go figure.
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This....this is the best thing to come out of E3 in a long, long time. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36746.html)
What? I clicked expecting something good. All I got was 4 mins of Apogee masturbating on video. No gameplay clips, just all bullshit. I am interested in if it is returning to a 2D scroller game for the handhelds or if they are going to be shitty 3D games, but that showed me absolutely nothing other than there's going to be three of them.
Also, Sony doesn't care about backward compatibility with the PS3 because they are still selling PS2s for $100 a pop. And they are still selling.
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KOTOR MMO confirmed (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/17/porfolio-com-lucasarts-and-bioware-building-kotor-mmo/).
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This....this is the best thing to come out of E3 in a long, long time. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36746.html)
I AM PUMPED!
The video didn't tell me anything about the new games but damn, I can taste the testosterone.
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I gotta ask, does any body really care that Dead Rising is coming to the Wii?
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I know people who do, but I can't understand why.
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They need to make the sequel already. Fucking Capcom.
Wankers.
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They need to make a sequel whose learning curve isn't fucking Mount Everest.
Wankers.
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Seriously. All I wanted from that game was to be able to run around and beat the shit out of zombies with gardening and sportsgoods. What I got was a mall inexplicably filling to the brim with (goddamn fucking) magically respawning zombies, items that break way too fucking quickly and an interior park area that is hard to run across safely because it's got a bunch of goons in so you're kind of stuck in some tiny little training-type area.
If they had at least made it so you could kill a bunch of zombies then fortify and lock down an area other than the one main "safe" area it would have been a bit more playable. If they had made the zombies not fucking respawn to quickly it would have been a bit more playable. If they hadn't put a bunch of goddamn goons in the middle area it would have been a bit more playable. If the controls weren't so goddamned wonky that I wound up missing half the shit I swung at then etc etc et-fucking-cetera.
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also, the text was completely unreadable on a standard-def tv so i played through (most of) the game having no idea what my quests or goals were until i actually got to them and even then it was a bit hazy at times.
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Yeah, they ought to have patched that, but they didn't. Luckily enough it was the first game I played on my HDTV.
I think the game's misunderstood and vastly unappreciated. The unfairness is sorta the point. It really nailed the fever-pitch of the best zombie horror films. There's only one place that you're "safe". You're constantly losing, frantic, saying "there's no fucking way I can do this" up until the point at which you pull it off. It's not a good game at all for being who are discouraged by failure. The best way to play is to fail once and start again with all the levels you gained that first go-around. The only reason I don't play it anymore is that I'm not very good with pressure, and Dead Rising is all pressure. But that first time I really liked it. Story was sort of retarded (not unlike Resident Evil), but the game itself had a lot of playful spirit to it. I played through 90% of it in a megaman helmet and a flowerprint dress. That was fun. It doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion.
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KOTOR MMO confirmed (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/17/porfolio-com-lucasarts-and-bioware-building-kotor-mmo/).
Man, I'm pissed. I don't want a fucking MMO, I want a real KOTOR 3, even though Mass Effect is basically KOTOR without lightsabers.
Also, Miyamoto has confirmed in interviews that new Zelda and Pikmin games are in development, and the Mario team as at work on something, although he didn't specifically say 'we are making a new Mario game' in that case.
As for Dead Rising on the Wii, I think that it's a great game that people who haven't made the leap to the 360 now get to play, so that's cool. If it's cheap like the version of RE4 that came out on the Wii, I think it could do very well.
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If it does well enough (I'm assuming the player base for the Wii is many times that of the 360 in Japan) maybe they'll finally start on a follow-up. It's nice they haven't completely abandoned the IP.
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Man, I'm pissed. I don't want a fucking MMO, I want a real KOTOR 3, even though Mass Effect is basically KOTOR without lightsabers.
In general, I agree with you, but in this instance I can't quite do it. KOTOR 3 would just be a rehash of what they're already doing with Mass Effect and, quite frankly, if I'm going to go back into the Star Wars universe, I'd love for it to be as open as possible and as unique as possible. And Bioware's brilliant paradigm for RPGs attached to an MMO, especially an MMO in a universe I already love, sounds so excellent.
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I like Bioware, but I don't have that much faith in them. MMOs are inextricably bound to the grind formula, band-kill-loot, and generally that's what MMO players want. Anybody who tries to roleplay on a WoW server is going to get flamed. The MMO will only bear a slight resemblance to its forebears.
Most of the talk seems to be about the Mandalorian Wars (Pre-KOTOR I) but who knows. If it is set during the Mandalorian Wars, it'll break continuity with the KOTOR games as only a small number of jedi were said to have fought in that conflict. But then any Star Wars MMO is going to break continuity by having 99.9% of the galactic population being jedi or sith.
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I should restate this, because I didn't really say what I wanted to. My distaste for the KOTOR MMO announcement isn't as much about wanting another KOTOR-style RPG, since we have Mass Effect for that. It is more that I just hate MMOs and would prefer Bioware make more awesome RPGs instead of that.
I have to say, even though the press conferences from the 3 console makers were pretty lame, the gameplay demos and trailers from E3 proved to me that this is going to be another kickass year for video games. Hell, even with the lack of bombshell announcements aside from the FFXIII on 360 thing, there's a lot of great looking stuff lined up for 2009 too, like RE5, Alpha Protocol, Mad World, and Bayonetta. Basically, presentations like this where everybody's great-looking games are in one place reinforce my belief that the standards of the video game medium have never been higher.
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I played through 90% of it in a megaman helmet and a flowerprint dress. That was fun. It doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion.
Best lulz had on Dead Rising for me was playing through it with the happy lego head on and watching the serious cutscenes with the static smiley face. Priceless.
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Seriously. All I wanted from that game was to be able to run around and beat the shit out of zombies with gardening and sportsgoods. What I got was a mall inexplicably filling to the brim with (goddamn fucking) magically respawning zombies, items that break way too fucking quickly and an interior park area that is hard to run across safely because it's got a bunch of goons in so you're kind of stuck in some tiny little training-type area.
If they had at least made it so you could kill a bunch of zombies then fortify and lock down an area other than the one main "safe" area it would have been a bit more playable. If they had made the zombies not fucking respawn to quickly it would have been a bit more playable. If they hadn't put a bunch of goddamn goons in the middle area it would have been a bit more playable. If the controls weren't so goddamned wonky that I wound up missing half the shit I swung at then etc etc et-fucking-cetera.
Left 4 Dead is coming out soon (think Q3), and I think that's going to be the game to satisfy my hunger for living flesh zombie games.
Oh, and what you're describing? L4D + GMod. Which I think is totally doable.
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I will probably end up buying Left 4 Dead twice because of that.
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Bitches! Animal Crossing! Fuck Yea!
Edit: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. Oh Hells yes!
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Man, I just watched the gameplay trailers for Mirror's Edge and Dead Space.
When the hell did EA become so innovative and clever?
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...is it weird that since the first announcement of Dead Space i've cared less and less about it with each new piece of information revealed or video released?
i mean, at first i was super excited. survial-horror in space? yes please. but for some reason that i can't figure out, i've cared about it less and less the more i heard about it.
anybody else experience anything similar or am i alone here?
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I can't identify with that, because after watching all the footage, Dead Space is one of my top 5 most anticipated games for the rest of this year. It's behind Fallout 3 and Persona 4, but right up there with Left 4 Dead and Mirror's Edge.
And like I said, this show also gave me a lot of confidence for 2009 stuff. I want the Alpha Protocol and the Platinum Games stuff so bad.
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Maybe its just me, but RE5 doesn't tickle my fancy, perhaps because as he was touting how great the female's AI was, she was staring into space as zombies hacked the protagonist apart. Also, near the end of the video a zombie just kind of gave up on attacking the guy and turned around and sort of started to walk perpendicular to the character. I know its an early build, but for now I'm really not impressed. Perhaps after some later builds RE5 might pique my interest, but for now, eh.
In the same vein, I immediately thought 'Alone In The Dark' once I heard Far Cry 2 dev's tout its superior fire effects. I hope it doesn't turn into AitD, but thats my fear for the game.
However, Mirriors Edge looks amazingly awesome, not just for its graphics but for its 'quirky' style of gameplay.
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You're basing your early predictions for Far Cry 2 on the fact that it shares a similar gimmick?
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Not early predictions; in those I believe that its going to do quiet well for itself. Not as good as hype predicts it will be, but thats because no game ever does, not because of early videos/screenshots. Rather, my fear for the game is that its going to be like Alone in the Dark, as in it will have some genuinely new and refreshing ideas that are horrible marred by the rest of the game. Hearing the devs talk about the realistic fire effects in Far Cry 2 merely sparked off those fears, but didn't make them my 'early predictions' for the game. My apologies if it seemed like that was my initial impressions.
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No, I was just trolling. ; )
I understand what you're saying, but every big game has always had some little gimmick that the developers fawn over, and this is always especially apparent at E3. Just because, in this case, fire was talked about for a good 5 minutes, doesn't mean it's a selling point: this is Ubisoft saying "ooh, look what we can do!".
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I love how you've all pretty much completely ignored EA's announcements about their upcoming titles beyond Dead Space. I'm not on the games forums much so I don't really know what everyone's general consensus is about EA, but I've got a link to their entire Press Release HERE (http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/26955/EA_E3_08_Press_Conference_Archive.html), which shows quite a bit of goodness. Its really long, but its got a few tidbits of information about games that had me slathering.Most notably for me anyway is Spore at the 25:30 mark. Its got the man that I worship as a god talking about the community around the game, and its got a brand new trailer with voice narration by the guy who played the Professor on the Power Puff Girls.
The press conference also had some other stuff, including gameplay of Dead Space, and a trailer for Dragon Age from Bioware, which despite Bioware's good history with me so far isn't really leaving me all that impressed. I was drooling a bit over Left 4 Dead though, which back when I first heard about it seemed kinda stupid, is looking more and more cool. I have a feeling its gonna be a good time in co-op.
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Tycho linked to some gameplay footage from Dragon Age which he seemed to be having multiple orgasms over but to me was supremely underwhelming. It looked a lot like something done in the Aurora engine, which is not something I would expect from a brand new seemingly flagship title Bioware game.
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Yeah, I see what you mean on that. The trailer looked clunky at best really, and I realize its probably in-game graphics, it just didn't grab me at all. Apparently its going to be another one of those "are you evil or good?" kinda games, where according to the guy in that press conference a huge part of your gameplay will be affected by your Origin story, which will be unique each time you play or some bull like that. I mean, I like these games, but they never seem to live up to that epic feel or that "unique experience". It always ends up to be do whatever you want and their will be dire consequences down the line that will change the entire story, but it turns out that all there is are two alternate endings or some shit like that?
Was any of that coherent? I still like Bioware, but I haven't even finished Mass Effect yet. I mean, I only bought it a few weeks ago and then my Xbox got the red ring of death, so I haven't been able to play it and I'm a lonely lonely man...
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The thing about Mass Effect is that the ending is sort of like Fallout's in that it's made up of several events that each correspond to a particular decision. So, it can technically end in a lot of different ways, but those all depend on decisions where you only have 2 or 3 choices.
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hmmm, I don't know about that. It seems like most of the decisions you make in the game are going to factor into the next games (we hope) but the endgame itself is composed completely of the choices you make before the final battle. The Fallouts ended with slideshows describing the aftermath of your decisions in all the different cities and areas.
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Right, but what I meant is that there were several different choices you make that each correspond to an event at the end, as generally as I could to avoid spoiling what exactly I was talking about. They are definitely backloaded towards the end of the game, yes.
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and then my Xbox got the red ring of death, so I haven't been able to play it and I'm a lonely lonely man...
Have you called Microsoft about it yet? They'll hook you up with a new Xbox in like a week, with a free month of Live Gold.
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I've actually sent it in, and I just got it back today, they repaired it, didn't replace it. But it works, doesn't freeze anymore, and the cd opener isn't jammed anymore, so they fixed all of the little things that were wrong with it as well as the red ring of death. So I'm happy, especially because I get to play it on my brand new 42" plasma TV. Oh yeah, Mass Effect time again.
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Speaking of Mass Effect isn't there supposed to be a sequel to that and also some more DLC? How's the progress coming along on those?
And Valve was on hand for Left 4 Dead but don't they have another episodic game coming out hopefully before the end of the decade?
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it's gonna be a while.
they've got five hundred computer programmers chained up in a basement somewhere trying to figure out how to give Gordon Freeman a body.
progress is slow, at best.
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Speaking of Mass Effect isn't there supposed to be a sequel to that and also some more DLC? How's the progress coming along on those?
And Valve was on hand for Left 4 Dead but don't they have another episodic game coming out hopefully before the end of the decade?
I was hoping that both of these announcements would come, but no word on either.
Also, I think the future of the Mass Effect trilogy is going to be very telling as to how much creative control EA is giving its studios under Riccitello's leadership. The doctors at Bioware have gone on record saying they want to get all three games in the trilogy out during the 360's life cycle, but if EA wants them to go multiplatform, I'm almost certain they couldn't pull it off considering all the other games they are working on at any given time. Unless they farmed out the porting duties to EA's internal QA staff (which, in the case of the Orange Box, didn't work out so well).
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I'm pretty sure that ME for the PC had some work done by a non-Bioware studio. Not positive, though. We'll probably get definite word on ME2 by this time next year, possibly a release before 2010. All they really have to do is touch up the physics and clamp down on texture pop-in and all the engine work is practically done.
As for DLC, who knows. Hopefully with all the time they've taken whatever comes next is more akin to, say, Shivering Isles than an above-average planet crawl.
And way back when EA first acquired Bioware the EA head made some noise about the IP extending beyond the RPG trilogy. Hopefully they're not thinking RTS.
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I don't suppose there was anything about Assassin's Creed 2? That's really the only thing I've been hanging out for and I can't seem to find any information on it. Also any new Prince of Persia installments?
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There is a new PoP (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/6739.html), with a cell-shaded visual style and sort of "tag team" tandem-cooperative combat and jump-puzzle solving with some female character. Looks like they're expanding the color palette as well.
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Yeah, the new Prince of Persia actually looks really good. I'm much more interested in it than I would be about any Assassin's Creed sequel.
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PREDORDERS AS A RESULT OF E3 '08:
Mirror's Edge
Left 4 Dead
Dead Space
Fallout 3
GAME I FORGOT TO PREORDER:
Far Cry 2
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Yeah, those were the four games that I was really impressed by as well. Far Cry 2 I'm still not sold on, but I'm keeping an eye on it.
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Believe it or not, what sold me on Far Cry 2 was the viral character blog (http://reubenblog.typepad.com).
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Me too, actually.
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This isn't exactly E3 related, but it's not really worth starting a thread on its own and I thought people should know about it. Activision announced recently that they would be taking several of Sierra's titles (since Sierra was owned by Vivendi) and assimilating them into their own portfolio. The bad news: the Ghostbusters game and Brutal Legend, aka the only two games out of this gigantic behemoth that I gave a shit about, are not on that list which most likely means they've been dropped and will need to find a new publisher. They were passed over in favor of Prototype and some mystery unannounced game, as well as (and this is the best part) new installments in the Spyro the Dragon and Crash Bandicoot franchises, as well as the Ice Age movie license.
The silver lining in all this is that these games are far enough along in development that it probably won't be too difficult for them to persuade another publisher to pick them up. If I had to guess, I'd say the most likely candidates would be the smaller Western publishers like Ubisoft or 2K that is trying to get more franchises in order to stave off acquisition.
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Has Activision seriously become the new EA? Because last I heard, the new Tony Hawk sucked, and skate. was fantastic. Am I actually working for the good guys?
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Yes.
No, seriously. Anyone who is paying attention is recognizing EA as a new powerhouse in innovation and design.
Shit. Mirror's Edge. I keep really, really wanting to write off FPSs as having reached the pinnacle of innovation in gameplay and that there's really nowhere to go but improving story and AI, but fuck it. EA wants to prove me wrong so bad.
Meanwhile, Activision Blizzard has been buying up franchises and studios, stripping the meat to the bone, and tossing the gamers the scraps. Call of Duty 4 was fantastic and already they've just passed on the franchise to Treyarch to make a quick buck. They lost Harmonix to EA, who has been faithful supporting Harmonix's every whim, so they feed Guitar Hero to Neversoft and have spat out 3 Guitar Hero games in the last year with them, with a fourth just around the corner.
THE WORLD IS ON FIRE.
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And, just to further the parallels of the new Activision to the old EA, rumor has it that Activision is going to shut down Massive Studios, the guys who made World in Conflict.
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You can't really base whether EA is good or not on one game that hasn't been released, and looks like they saw Assassin's Creed and decided that it would be a good idea to make a game like that.
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We aren't. Have you read the thread?
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Yes, and I was replying to Ozymandias' comment. Probably should have quoted.
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I think Ozy was using Mirror's Edge as a reference to his opinion. I have money on Mirror's Edge sucking, by the way.
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I'm not basing it solely on Mirror's Edge. Their entire E3 lineup supports it.
I just have a fondness for Mirror's Edge.
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I just don't think we should count our chickens before they hatch.
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Count mine counted.
Not really, I just wanted to say that. I'm not saying anything about their new stuff until I get to play it. It looks great so far, but I have nothing tangible. They've got potential, but I'm turned off by survival horror in general and Mirror's Edge is going to need another trick or two up it's sleeve to win me over. Spore, however, I am completely sold on.
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I'm not basing it solely on Mirror's Edge. Their entire E3 lineup supports it.
Yeah, EA is being truly astonishing. It's like they've said, "You know what? Milking the cash cow that is 'Sports Game 2kX' is fun, but why not actually use our astonishing purchasing power to push the boundaries and perhaps even blur the lines between commerce and art? I bet that would really fuck with people's minds."
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Actually, this year's E3 sucked outside of EA's presentation, and even that was totally spoiled when half of it turned out to be the new NFL game.
Spore's a week from completion. Think we'd get an early copy if I managed to recreate his face in the creature creator?
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Activision announced recently that they would be taking several of Sierra's titles (since Sierra was owned by Vivendi) and assimilating them into their own portfolio. The bad news: the Ghostbusters game and Brutal Legend, aka the only two games out of this gigantic behemoth that I gave a shit about, are not on that list which most likely means they've been dropped and will need to find a new publisher.
Well, according to Ghosbusters Fans, Sony will take the Ghostbusters Game, and all progress made thus far on the game, and find a new publisher ofr it. Of course this means the game will most likely be delayed for another six months or so.
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New opinion: Best trailer from E3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJ2vBIv130)
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The Game Critics panel announced their Best of E3 awards, and Fallout 3 takes Best of Show.
Full list:
Best of Show
Fallout 3
(Bethesda Softworks for PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Original Game
Mirror's Edge
(DICE/Electronic Arts for PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Console Game
LittleBigPlanet
(Media Molecule/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 3)
Best PC Game
Spore
(Maxis/EA)
Best Handheld Game
Resistance: Retribution
(Bend Studio/Sony Computer Entertainment for PSP)
Best Hardware/Peripheral
Rock Band 2 Ion “Drum Rocker” Set
(ION Audio/MTV Games for Xbox 360)
Best Action Game
Gears of War 2
(Epic Games/Microsoft Game Studios for Xbox 360)
Best Action/Adventure Game
Dead Space
(EA Redwood Shores/EA for PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Role Playing Game
Fallout 3
(Bethesda Softworks for PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Racing Game
Pure
(Black Rock/Disney Interactive Studios for PC, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Sports Game
Madden NFL 09
(Tiburon/EA for All Systems)
Best Fighting Game
Street Fighter IV
(Capcom for Arcade)
Best Strategy Game
Tom Clancy’s EndWar
(Ubisoft Shanghai/Ubisoft for PlayStation 3, Xbox 360)
Best Social/Casual/Puzzle
LittleBigPlanet
(Media Molecule/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 3)
Best Online Multiplayer
Left 4 Dead
(Valve/EAP for PC, Xbox 360)
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LittleBigPlanet ... revisiting Little Big World?
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In my opinion, Spore should have won hands down.
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Interesting new tidbit for comic book fans: Warren Ellis recently mentioned on his website that he was responsible for much of the writing and backstory of Dead Space.
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Shit.
I need someone to tell me something bad about Dead Space because right now RE4 + Eternal Darkness + space + Warren Ellis = fucking amazing.
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Dead Space does not have enough tits.
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Indeed, you could say it has none.
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It fails miserably! Shun, shun!