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Title: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Faker on 03 Jan 2009, 10:03
So tonight the BBC announced the 11th Doctor... It's Matt Smith

Picture here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/partyanimals/danny_foster.shtml).

Interview there (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7809942.stm).
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Post by: Josefbugman on 03 Jan 2009, 10:09
Ahhh, the chin of command, some of the best actors of my old school had that chin :-). I am sure he will do fine.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: öde on 03 Jan 2009, 12:07
A BLOO BLA BLOO BLOOO TENNANT BLOO
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Post by: Josefbugman on 03 Jan 2009, 12:11
*pat pat* there there, I am sure he will be a good actor, just not as "squee" worthy.
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Post by: Lunchbox on 04 Jan 2009, 23:02
I think he looks brilliant. This is the Doctor Who Confidential where he was unveiled if anyone wants a look.

http://au.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F416BAAEF81C272A

The way he wiggles his hands around when he's lost for words during the interview is what nailed it for me.
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Post by: Tom on 04 Jan 2009, 23:21
Cue the weird fantasy science explained with wiggly hand motions.
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Post by: axerton on 07 Jan 2009, 05:40
When I first saw this I was kinda stunned, he was well off what I was pictureing for the next doctor. And then something else struck me, he really does remind me more of the old companions than he does of the old doctors, partially because of his age, but also because he's got that sort of scrawny nerdy look to him that they used to favour so as to give the young Who fans somone to relate to.

I've watched as much of Party Animals as has aired in Australia and his character which could have been taken off the page and turned into a very boring 2D character had it been done by a less talented actor has instead been turned into someone I give a shit about, and probably half the reason I watch the show.

I'm now very curious about how they will cast the companion(s) because up until now, there's always been the age gap between the doctor and companion (rose was supposed to only be about 19) and how they will play it if they do bring back River Song, who's actor would be considerably older than Smith.
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Post by: Tom on 07 Jan 2009, 13:10
I always thought that the whole "you're the youngest Doctor I've seen" thing that Song said in the library was meant to be ironic.
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Post by: mbb on 17 Jan 2009, 18:19
You know how I knew he was perfect? The hair. The hair is so fabulously Doctor quality.
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Post by: cgarci21 on 17 Jan 2009, 21:51
I refuse to pass judgement quite yet but I think this doctor has a good shot. Its strange but he reminds me of a little, young, Hybrid of 9 and 10 insofar as looks. Although in his interviews he acts sort of wiggly, as I've seen mentioned, and I always liked that about 10. It reminded me of early doctors.

So anyways he has promise, at least thats my two cents, we'll see.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 17 Jan 2009, 23:14
I'm now very curious about . . . how they will play it if they do bring back River Song

Maybe there's internet gossip that says otherwise, but I sort of got the impression that the Silence in the Library/Forest at Night storyline was the only time we were ever going to see River Song. I mean, it's not like we see absolutely everything that the Doctor gets up to: characters in the show refer reasonably often to having taken trips in the TARDIS that haven't been shown on screen; furthermore, the impression we get of the Doctor's and River Song's story doesn't really fit the template of the show: it was clearly some grand and long-term love affair, rather than a series of adventures, I think. So unless they're going to start filming "Doctor Who: the retirement years" I wouldn't be surprised if we never see River Song ever again.

Which would be fine by me. The story in which she appeared was just about perfect just as it was. Sometimes it's better to be left to imagine the rest.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: jimbunny on 19 Jan 2009, 16:30
Yes.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 20 Jan 2009, 00:07
Okay, by coincidence I've just finished watching the River Song episodes again and in fact there's nothing in either of them that makes it essential for the Doctor to be played by David Tennant if she ever appears in the series again. Yes, she refers to how he looks a couple of times, but what she says is ambiguous at best. In "Silence in the Library" she says:

"Going by your face, I'd say it's early days for you, yeah?"

and a few moments later, in the same scene:

"Look at you. You're young."

Both of these lines could easily be taken as meaning that when she knew the Doctor, he'd regenerated and no longer looked like David Tennant. After all, if she knows the Doctor so well she wouldn't need to know what he looks like to recognise him: here's this guy in the library which is supposed to be deserted, bounding around trying to save the day and who obviously knows more about whats going on than anyone else, and she's called the Doctor to come help - so who else would it be? So basically, if Stephen Moffat has anything further planned for the Doctor/River Song relationship, David Tennant leaving the series shouldn't affect it. And actually this seems more likely after repeat viewing than I'd previously thought: she refers to "the crash of the Byzantium", and also to the Doctor turning back armies, so maybe their relationship was more action-packed than I previously surmised.

And yes, I know I got the name of the second episode wrong in my previous post. But I like my title better. And henceforth I shall also be referring to the episode "Blink" as "Blunk".
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 05 Jun 2009, 02:42
Thread res because the new companion has been announced. Karren Gillan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Gillan)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/entertainment_enl_1243604113/img/1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Jun 2009, 02:48
Helllllloooooooooo .... nurse.

I do hope that this one completely fails to fall in love with the Doctor.
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Post by: Gemmwah on 05 Jun 2009, 05:15
Okay I am definitely watching the new series, regardless of the lack of David Tennant. Mmm.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 05 Jun 2009, 09:26
Okay I am definitely watching the new series, regardless of the lack of David Tennant. Mmm.

Ehh, she's just a Generic Pretty Girl. Though if she speaks with a Scottish accent, I'll be a goner.

Mainly though I'll be watching the next season because I'm so excited to see what Stephen Moffatt will do, and because I'll be so glad to see the back of Russell T. Davies' increasingly annoying camp sensibility and melodramatics.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Gemmwah on 05 Jun 2009, 14:30
Pretty Redhead Girl.

I'm a sucker for the gingers.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 06:51
Oh hello there, pretty woman.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 06 Jun 2009, 07:47
Okay I am definitely watching the new series, regardless of the lack of David Tennant. Mmm.

Ehh, she's just a Generic Pretty Girl. Though if she speaks with a Scottish accent, I'll be a goner.

Mainly though I'll be watching the next season because I'm so excited to see what Stephen Moffatt will do, and because I'll be so glad to see the back of Russell T. Davies' increasingly annoying camp sensibility and melodramatics.
The gay references were getting a bit ... yeah. A lot of them.

I liked that. At first. But it got a bit excessive.

But, seriously, RTD wrote some awesome, epic stuff. Some very clever and mature content for what in essence was a kid's show.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 06 Jun 2009, 09:14
Doctor Who is not a nor has ever been a kids show, it is a show that is accessable to children, but not a childrens show.

As for Russel T Davies I'm glad he's gone. He deserves full credit for  getting the show back on its feet but beyond that fuck no. you were right he wrote some epic stuff epic with a capital 'e' and a capital 'pic' and my god and surprisingly enough it's ended up ridiculusly over the top. Take the last episode of season 4. fuck that shit. having two doctors and all the flashbacks - some of which were only to a few minutes before. honestly that would have to be my least favourite episode behind only Love and Monsters (also a RTD script)

As for Stephen Moffatt: he is leaps and bounds my favourite TV writer, infact  he'd probably be up there as just my favourite writer of any form. I am however aprehensive because
A) I worry that he may not be able to keep up the standard of excelence that he has displayed in the past when he is writing half a season.
B) it is a great doctor who tradition that the randoms who pop up in each episode die, to date he has not killed anyone who has not later been brought back in some form except through natural courses.
C) I worry about the direction he may take the series, in the past his episodes have concertrated on three things:  'wibbely wobbely timey wimey' stuff like River Song or Sally Sparrow, meeting people who have met him before but he hasn't met them.  The doctor falling in love - Madam de Pompadour (sp) and river song. and most worryingly the doctors real name, he's already made it cannon that the doctor has a real name and has twice now hinted at it - though for a second I was thinking that he had written Midnight, so maybe not as bad as I was thinking.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Jimor on 06 Jun 2009, 09:48
As for Stephen Moffatt: he is leaps and bounds my favourite TV writer, infact  he'd probably be up there as just my favourite writer of any form.

Do I get any cool points for saying that I once shared a hotel bed with Stephan Moffatt, and he let me touch his Hugo?*

*both sitting on said bed fully clothed in a room full of people during a party at the World Science Fiction Convention where he had just won the Hugo Award for one of his Dr. Who scripts
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 06 Jun 2009, 17:19
The gay references were getting a bit ... yeah. A lot of them.

It's not really the gay references that annoy me, more near-constant tongue-in-cheek tone and cheesy pop-culture references.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Alex C on 06 Jun 2009, 18:10
I can't really imagine being attracted to that woman given the way the picture has been handled. I once discovered a dead woman who looked less ashen than that. 

Also, yeah, what Inlander said. I do not believe that every program must be deadly serious but there's only so far you can go before I start having a hard time caring for your characters at all. This is fine if you're essentially going for an all-out comedy but it's something that sometimes gives me trouble with Doctor Who; it is very hard for a series to have it both ways with me.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: JD on 06 Jun 2009, 19:53
As for Stephen Moffatt: he is leaps and bounds my favourite TV writer, infact  he'd probably be up there as just my favourite writer of any form.

Do I get any cool points for saying that I once shared a hotel bed with Stephan Moffatt, and he let me touch his Hugo?*

*both sitting on said bed fully clothed in a room full of people during a party at the World Science Fiction Convention where he had just won the Hugo Award for one of his Dr. Who scripts

Jealousssssssss
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Jun 2009, 00:50
As for Stephen Moffatt: he is leaps and bounds my favourite TV writer, infact  he'd probably be up there as just my favourite writer of any form.

Do I get any cool points for saying that I once shared a hotel bed with Stephan Moffatt, and he let me touch his Hugo?*

*both sitting on said bed fully clothed in a room full of people during a party at the World Science Fiction Convention where he had just won the Hugo Award for one of his Dr. Who scripts

It does, actually, get you HUGE cool points.

I actually liked the season 4 finale. I have trouble believing someone didn't. Okay. Learn something new every day.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: chowburger on 10 Jun 2009, 09:42
Okay I am definitely watching the new series, regardless of the lack of David Tennant. Mmm.

Agreed. Matt Smith looks kind of disappointing from an (entirely shallow) eye-candy point of view, but she'll definitely do instead  :wink: Assuming she doesn't turn out to be intolerably annoying, that is...
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Beren on 14 Jun 2009, 12:48
I sincerely do not like the way Matt Smith moves.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Faker on 20 Jul 2009, 14:56
how about how he dresses?
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2009/7/20/1248083973406/Doctor-Who-Karen-Gillan-a-001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Hat on 20 Jul 2009, 21:21
He kind of manages to pull off a bow-tie with the sheer jocular shape of his nose
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Post by: FIXDIX on 20 Jul 2009, 22:57
Him in that picture reminds me of Crispen Glover.
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Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 21 Jul 2009, 02:30
All I get from that photo is that Stephen Fry needs to be the doctor after this guy.
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Post by: Tom on 21 Jul 2009, 02:42
I think they're cute.  :-P
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Post by: a pack of wolves on 21 Jul 2009, 09:22
All I get from that photo is that Stephen Fry needs to be the doctor after this guy.

Oh hell no. Don't get me wrong, I've loved the man since I used to watch Jeeves And Wooster and A Bit Of Fry And Laurie when I was a kid but he'd be terrible. He'd just end up doing the amiable, bumbling upper class character he's been trotting out for years on QI and the like. I'm honestly still a bit disappointed that they didn't give it to Patterson Joseph, so I'm rather hoping he might get a shot next time around.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Jul 2009, 01:20
The next doctor will be EVEN YOUNGER (spoilers: it is one of the Jonas brothers)
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Post by: axerton on 24 Jul 2009, 01:38
and who will be after that, Doctor the toddler? Doctor the embrio? Doctor the glint-in-the-milkman's-eye?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Jul 2009, 01:43
One of the guys off of Skins
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Post by: Tom on 24 Jul 2009, 17:11
The next doctor will be EVEN YOUNGER (spoilers: it is one of the Jonas brothers)

They're gross:

(http://www.datelinehollywood.com/.a/6a00e550f08d9b883301156e406839970c-320wi)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Jul 2009, 17:33
Hey man I was just joking around. Ain't no reason to go doin anything rash like actually posting a picture of those homunculi.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: JD on 29 Jul 2009, 20:21
(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5875/doctorwhos.jpg)

Hmmmmmmm
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Jul 2009, 00:33
Was that a questioning 'hmmm' or and admiring one?
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Post by: Eris on 30 Jul 2009, 03:00
Dovey, I never knew you were one of the Jonas brothers!
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Post by: axerton on 30 Jul 2009, 08:09
clearly what dovey is hinting is that he is infact already cast as the 12th doctor
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Aug 2009, 22:19
Dovey, I never knew you were one of the Jonas brothers!

FIGHT YOU

(which one?)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Eris on 05 Aug 2009, 02:12
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/Lapuz/random/dovey-ass.jpg)

You're so Dreamy!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: JD on 05 Aug 2009, 02:54
euagh, those sideburns
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Post by: Lunchbox on 01 Mar 2010, 17:03
GUYS GUYS

So the first Season 5 trailer I saw was a bit silly (http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=Yxnc2yTpFt0&v=EpbmMhNe6aA).

But this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=Yxnc2yTpFt0&v=UnPUF8an-XE) looks awesome! Seems they've really stepped up the production values. And I'm HECK of Excited for Mr Smith!
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Post by: Ozymandias on 01 Mar 2010, 17:21
Oh yeah that silly one is supposed to be viewed in 3D so it's just a bit silly and showoffy.
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Post by: Tom on 01 Mar 2010, 17:22
Doctor Who starts April 4 but knowing the ABC we wont see it until like September or something.
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Post by: Inlander on 01 Mar 2010, 17:48
Not on our televisions, no.
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Post by: FIXDIX on 02 Mar 2010, 00:25
I want to like the new logo but all I can think of whenever I see it, then say it in my head, is Darkwing Duck.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 02 Mar 2010, 01:33
I don't want to like the new logo at all. It's awful. I hate it, and I want my children to hate it, and I want them to in turn indoctrinate their own children in that same hatred.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Mar 2010, 02:25
So, you don't like it much then?

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Post by: Inlander on 02 Mar 2010, 02:29
I am thoroughly racist for the new Doctor Who logo. It should not be allowed in the same building as other logos.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Mar 2010, 02:35
I don't know ... it feels ... authentic old-fashioned sort of. A back to basics approach, kinda. I sort of aprove.
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Post by: Tom on 02 Mar 2010, 22:51
Chin up, it's only the logo. It's not necessarily indicative of the content.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 02 Mar 2010, 23:21
I'm absolutely confident that the content will be miles better with Stephen Moffatt in charge - and it was never exactly "bad" under Russel T. Davies, though certainly sometimes it was overly cheesy.

However I'm concerned about the reapperance of the Lonely Assassins (or whatever they were called), but that's only because the episode that featured them was so perfect in every way that I'm worried about the show returning to it in any capacity and inflicting, shall we say, something of a "Star Wars prequels" effect. But I am eagerly looking forward to the new season and I'll reserve any judgement until I've seen it.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Mar 2010, 00:54
The weeping angels.

Thinking about Moffat as headwriter is just scary. He did:

"The Empty Child" / "The Doctor Dances" (2005)
"The Girl in the Fireplace" (2006)
"Blink" (2007)
"Silence in the Library" / "Forest of the Dead" (2008)

Only the six of the best episodes ever. And in 2010 he's doing three in one season ...

seriously, if he keeps his quality up the audience might die of excitement.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 03 Mar 2010, 07:15
Speaking as someone who's watched all of about 3 episodes of Doctor Who (from whichever season had Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor), where should I start if I was to begin watching this show seriously?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: scarred on 03 Mar 2010, 07:27
If you started with Eccleston, watch his entire run first. You never forget your first Doctor.

(He was mine too)
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 03 Mar 2010, 10:42
Start with Ecclestone. Any doctor before that is mostly going to disappoint you if you don't.
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Post by: Tom on 03 Mar 2010, 13:15
He's actually doing five, two of those are two parters: The Eleventh Hour, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone and, as of 4/3, an unnamed two-part season finale.
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Post by: Lunchbox on 04 Mar 2010, 17:08
Yay!

Theriandros, I wholeheartedly agree that Eccleston is your best bet on starting a debilitating Whovian habit. My first experience of the New Who was flicking through channels and seeing Tennant in The Girl in the Fireplace, and I became addicted. I did my research and straight away went out and bought Eccleston (Doctor Number 9, Season 1 of New Who) and fell in love with him. He is my favourite doctor ever, no matter how pretty Tennant is.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Mar 2010, 18:02
He's good, but I love Tennant's charm so much more
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 04 Mar 2010, 18:19
Yes, but Tennant's Doctor wore sneakers with suits. This can't be forgiven.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 04 Mar 2010, 18:34
Well none of the doctors have been Properly Stylish, with the fabulous exception of Jon Pertwee. Oh, those velvet smoking jackets!
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Post by: Inlander on 04 Mar 2010, 18:53
Funny you should mention that. I was watching the most recent trailer and thinking that Matt Smith's Doctor seemed a bit snappy and prone to violence - a bit, in fact, Pertwee-esque. That would be exciting.
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Mar 2010, 00:29
Funny you should mention that. I was watching the most recent trailer and thinking that Matt Smith's Doctor seemed a bit snappy and prone to violence - a bit, in fact, Pertwee-esque. That would be exciting.

Good call. I believe Matt Smith said somewhere that he really liked Pertwee's doctor and sort of took hints from that one.

Also: if I had suits I'd be wearing sneakers with them as well. And probably quote the lion king a lot too.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 05 Mar 2010, 05:13
Eccleston is my favourite. I feel he was pretty stylish but hey, that's probably because I wear a lot of black and own a leather jacket so, whatever.

I kind of feel like I should get into this as I did enjoy watching it with Lunchy when we lived together. But it's hard to justify spending money on something that has such BBC quality special effects.

Also I fucking hate Catherine Tate.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 05 Mar 2010, 10:38
'U-boat captain'.

Also, yes, Tate is heinous in her own shows but I must say that as companion she was more than alright. Much more depth and emotion I had expected from her, judging from her 'comedy' and the runaway bride.

Spend the money.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 06 Mar 2010, 05:46
Eeeee I'm excited!  :-D Although this may present itself as another reason to stay at uni over Easter; my family do not like Doctor Who :(
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 08 Mar 2010, 01:12
I still have not been able to justify the expense of buying the most recent series on DVD, but hopefully I should have some money left at the end of next month.

Other exciting Doctor news: Paul McGann is going to be at some collector's convention in the city on my birthday (two weeks from now). I am going just so I can get a photo with him. Watch this space I guess!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Sox on 08 Mar 2010, 11:15
He was the my favourite Doctor!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 29 Mar 2010, 01:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcaQqUGtqL8

There you go. First scene.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 29 Mar 2010, 03:06
I slept in and missed McGann.
Oh well.

So! Thanks for that link! It inspired me to sign up for some Doctor Who forums and get the newest goss.
And.... River Song is confirmed as a companion for 11! Neat!
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Post by: Sox on 29 Mar 2010, 09:39
That looked really silly.
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Post by: Lunchbox on 31 Mar 2010, 20:56
Aaargh! AAAARGH! It's SO SOON! I'm SO EXCITED!
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Post by: jimbunny on 02 Apr 2010, 09:39
River Song is confirmed as a companion for 11! Neat!

argh.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: jimbunny on 03 Apr 2010, 14:35
OK, so YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.

The first episode is about as good as the credits are absolutely horrific. Moffat does the creepy moments really well, Smith looks like a good all-around Doctor (a bit on the lighter, more humorous side, which I think balances well with Moffat's writing), and the companion actually looks like she can act. Basically I can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Be My Head on 03 Apr 2010, 16:37
Karen Gillan is a sexy beast.

Also, it was really really good! I approve.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: FIXDIX on 04 Apr 2010, 02:18
I think Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor now.

Woo next week woo!!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 04 Apr 2010, 07:38
My only complaint was the gratuatious pandering to the lonely male demographic, something I would expect from tomb raider or star wars, but had thought doctor who was above. I mean seriously, yes you have a pretty girl, that is no excuse to put her in a police uniform with a stupidly short skirt she constantly has to pull down and top that off by giving her a job that no matter how much of a sad lonely sap you are, she might still kiss you.

What makes it even worse is when you compare it to Moffat's past show, Coupling, (where I'm pretty sure he imbued the characters with his own fetishes and turn ons). Women in uniform - tick. Stockings - tick. We're one lesbian kiss away from it looking suspicially like a creepy old man forcing a gorgeous young girl to play out all his fantasys for him via the medium of a massive hit tv show.

Everything else though, was brilliant. Stunning. Perfect.

Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Be My Head on 04 Apr 2010, 08:22
"They originally wanted to put me in trousers, but I did say I'd like to wear a skirt because you'll understand when you watch it. Actually I think I love Amy. I'm in love with her. I want to be her."

http://io9.com/5493000/doctor-whos-new-companion-explains-why-she-wears-really-short-skirts
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Thomas Edison on 04 Apr 2010, 19:17
The trailer for the future episodes that aired after the first episode?

Dogfights in space, a Dalek with the British Flag on it and the Doctor pulling the hero pose with a handgun before pulling the trigger?

yesssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Apr 2010, 21:44
I loved the beginning.

And the middle.

And the end.

Steven Moffat replaced a beloved Doctor and made me love the new one (and his new companion) in one episode.

Absolutely everything about the episode shined. Even the cinematography was miles beyond previous seasons. Just stellar. Absolutely stellar.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: scarred on 04 Apr 2010, 21:47
Can't say anything here that hasn't been said already. Phenomenal.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 04 Apr 2010, 22:00
Can't say anything here that hasn't been said already. Phenomenal.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: october1983 on 05 Apr 2010, 01:56
I've never really been able to get into the new Doctor Who - the Ecclestone run was good and I'd watch it if it was on. The same applied to Tennant until they introduced Catherine Tate, after which I ended up deciding it wasn't for me at all. Even at its best, though, I'd never found it truly gripping for some reason, not to the extent that made me want to take time out to watch it every week.

But by god that's all changed now. I got roped in to watching by my girlfriend and her flatmate and by about 10 minutes in I was totally absorbed. The scripting was so sharp, the cinematography excellent, the acting almost uniformly great (particularly by Smith), the tone spot on. This might actually be good enough to convince me to go back to the start of the Ecclestone run and watch it properly!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 05 Apr 2010, 13:55
Even the cinematography was miles beyond previous seasons. Just stellar. Absolutely stellar.

This was the first thing I noticed was that everybody seemed to be living in a very real country village instead of being denizens of some frightful technicolour world of tacky. I'm definitely digging the new opening theme, it really suits the tone of Moffat's Dr Who. I'm glad the changed it from RTD's abrasively bombastic one.

All that rampant energy and charm of Smith's, he's my new favourite doctor (when it comes to new Who). It's great cause although Ecclestone and Tennant were great to watch I could never really bring myself like them.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: october1983 on 05 Apr 2010, 13:57
I'm definitely digging the new opening theme, it really suits the tone of Moffat's Dr Who. I'm glad the changed it from RTD's abrasively bombastic one.

I cannot tell if the second sentence is referring to the opening theme or to the tone, but on both points I agree.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 05 Apr 2010, 17:27
Yes yes yes yes yes. Yes. Hooray! Fishcustard!

I forced my boy to sit and watch it with me. He really didn't want to and at the end (after five minutes of afterglow) I apologised for making him sit through it. 'Oh,' he said. 'Don't worry. I actually enjoyed it.'

THANKYOU MOFFATSMITH
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: FIXDIX on 05 Apr 2010, 20:23
I'm actually planning to show it to a few friends who never dug the past seasons because they deemed them too low budget looking.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 06 Apr 2010, 01:15
I'm definitely digging the new opening theme, it really suits the tone of Moffat's Dr Who. I'm glad the changed it from RTD's abrasively bombastic one.
I cannot tell if the second sentence is referring to the opening theme or to the tone, but on both points I agree.

Sorry, i should've been clearer. The opening theme really is always an indication of the show runners intent; they're inter-related.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 08 Apr 2010, 05:08
personally, i liked the rtd theme better, it had this sort of hard, militant edge to it. something you could march to. it fit well with the stories that dealt with the aftermath of the war.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 09 Apr 2010, 07:23
the theme itself I didn't notice too much. however the opening credits set me up to really not like the show, I mean the tardis flying through a cloud tunnel being struck by lightning? It fitted well within the context of that episode, having just seen the tardis flying over london burning, but even then it still urked me, and will continue to irritate me as the show goes on. The end with it looking like a tunnel of larva was acceptable though.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 09 Apr 2010, 22:59
personally, i liked the rtd theme better, it had this sort of hard, militant edge to it. something you could march to. it fit well with the stories that dealt with the aftermath of the war.

and yet didn't fit with every other episode

especially the moffat ones
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: StreetSpirit on 09 Apr 2010, 23:28
I personally am very excited to see what is going to happen. Moffatt's philosophy on handling the Doctor's mythos is very beautiful and elegant - he obviously loves participating in such a historic and limitless show. As for Matt Smith, his eagerness combined with a quirky and slightly serious (when necessary) attitude will likely make him an highly exciting Doctor to follow.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: öde on 10 Apr 2010, 08:54
More like Doctor Boners!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Be My Head on 10 Apr 2010, 15:55
Did the last episode feel really short for anyone else?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: evilbobthebob on 10 Apr 2010, 16:06
Nope, same for me. I guess it was because the plot shot along so quickly without a great deal of explanation or exploration of possible subplots.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 10 Apr 2010, 18:10
I like the way the doctor speaks now. Cool rythms. Lovely voice.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: jimbunny on 13 Apr 2010, 12:54
Second episode was disappointing. Perhaps it couldn't have been otherwise... The elements of the plot were all pretty classic Doctor Who, but there wasn't enough time to flesh them out and give them much significance. I fear the season is starting out with a jolt, trying to accomplish too much before we've had time to get to know the new Doctor, the show's new directions, etc... The preview for the next one didn't give me much reason to think otherwise.

Plus, the episode started off with the Doctor staring up Amy's skirt. That's not very classy.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 13 Apr 2010, 15:56
I liked the episode, we got action with suspense and key twists existed so that we could actively discern them as the episode progressed. This episode showed us more of what Amy and the Doctor are like and the episode seemed like quintessential British sci-fi (or maybe I'm just biased towards ray-gun gothic).
Although the episodes themes were apparent they felt underdeveloped but I hope this is only because this is part 2 of 13. Unlike shows like Eastenders, Dr Who. is planned out in story arcs and that's what the new series have been like. I hope that I'm right about Moffat's (show-)run.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: jimbunny on 14 Apr 2010, 07:33
There was definitely a lot going for it, but I guess it felt to me like someone knew just about all the things that should go into a Doctor Who (at least a new Who) episode yet couldn't quite put them all together in a believable way. One of its mis-steps was going for a full-blown emotional moment at the end. A new Doctor, especially with a new companion, needs (I think) to be a bit more enigmatic at the beginning. The unwrapping of that mystery is one of the beauties of the show, because it gets to happen over and over again.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 14 Apr 2010, 10:29
i enjoyed it.





the theme of being forced to do the necessary thing rather than the 'right' thing is something most tv writers lack the balls to really deal with. usually they set up some 'save the world or save your girlfriend' choice, and then wuss out by having the hero somehow manage to save both. here, they actually managed to have it both ways in a manner that i really liked, in that rather than just making the moral dilemma magically go away, they waited until the hero had already committed to doing the necessary thing before jumping in and stopping him. in this way, we see that he is not only willing, but strong enough to act pragmatically no matter how hard it is, while at the same time avoiding the material consequences of that choice. it also goes a long way to demonstrating the value of his sidekick.

if overused, things like this will kill the drama, but to start off with, it helps to strongly establish the character.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: smack that isaiah on 25 Apr 2010, 07:19
Ok, so I know nothing about the new doctor (I only know about episodes my friend has on DVD, and we don't get BBCA on campus so I can't watch new episodes), BUT, I just found out about this genre of music called "Time Lord Rock (http://wiki.dftba.com/index.php/Chameleon_Circuit)," like Wizard Rock only infinitely cooler.  There's a whole awesome CD of songs about Doctor Who, and it's free to listen to online (http://charliemcdonnell.com/music/)!  (Blink is absolutely amazing, I want to buy the CD just for that)

Anyway, that's it.  I just wanted to share the awesome sound with you Doctor Who fans (The rock ain't bad, and I love English singers' voices)

edit: whoa, the band Chameleon Circuit (the Time lord rock band, I think I failed to mention their name) has a David Tennant look alike (http://wiki.dftba.com/index.php/Liam_Dryden) in the band)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 29 Apr 2010, 19:50
Oh dear, oh dear. I have to share this with the world.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Apr 2010, 04:07
like Wizard Rock only infinitely cooler.

, in that infinity times zero is still zero

You fucking nerds.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: smack that isaiah on 30 Apr 2010, 08:45
Actually, infinity times zero can be any number.  It depends on the functions and their derivatives and how they approach either infinity or zero.
For instance, take 1/x*x.  at x=0 the function equates to "infinity" times zero, for which no value can be assigned since it is an indeterminate form, but when you take the limit as x-> 0 the function 1/x*x becomes 1.  :D
Huh, I did learn something from Math 241 last year.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Apr 2010, 09:03
You fucking nerds.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 Apr 2010, 13:25
Finally saw both parts of The End of Time, now on to this season.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Slick on 03 May 2010, 08:05
So OK the limit of (1/x)*x as x approaches zero is 1, but you still haven't said that it is. The function still has a discontinuity at x=0.
The point is really more that you cannot multiply by infinity. You just can not.

Also this new season is kind of balls, yes? Weak writing, and too much of this cocky 'I'm the Doctor' business. Like, Doctor, you only made it out of that trap with the angels because you very fortunately happened to bounce a gravity ball up there earlier. It could have very easily ended up with your demise. You aren't a ninja, you've just been very, very lucky.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: the_pied_piper on 03 May 2010, 10:03
I thought the gravity used was the ship's artificial gravity? Surely the gravity ball got swallowed up by the time energy and so never existed anyway? Which actually begs the question of how the gravity still works at all.

Other than that I actually like the new Doctor Who. I was never a fan of Tennant or Ecclestone but the new Doctor seems quirky and fun. I will agree that the writing isn't particularly strong but it is still enjoyable so that doesn't really matter much considering that it is not exactly a turn-your-concentration-levels-to-maximum kind of show.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 07 May 2010, 20:48
I finally got to see the first 3 episodes of the new season.  Fucking amazing.  The first episode had me laughing hysterically every time he would try a new food.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 15 May 2010, 12:44
It is downright rude to show certain episodes of Doctor Who only in HD when it is well known that the majority of the audience are students who have to stream it over the internet.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: the_pied_piper on 15 May 2010, 15:27
It takes a couple of hours but they put the normal version on the iplayer eventually. I downloaded the HD version first and it was still choppy even though it wasn't explicitly streamed after i'd downloaded it which is pretty stupid.

Wasn't particularly impressed with the episode though, to be honest.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 May 2010, 02:07
I did not know that! That is useful, thank you.

And the rest of the post basically summed up my feelings about the episode, although I'm glad they did it because they had to get over this "will she leave him, won't she?" thing. It is getting boring - not everyone in the world is going to fall in love with the Doctor.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 16 May 2010, 07:12
... you are joking right. Amy's choice had to be the best episode Ive ever seen. Honestly, great concept, perfect pacing, and kept me guessing about who HE was the whole time, but now I think about it it was perfectly obvious, and someone bright and lucky could have picked it from watching the trailer.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Yayniall on 16 May 2010, 07:45
It was like that episode of Futurama with the bees.
But not as good.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: the_pied_piper on 16 May 2010, 08:33
... you are joking right. Amy's choice had to be the best episode Ive ever seen. Honestly, great concept, perfect pacing, and kept me guessing about who HE was the whole time, but now I think about it it was perfectly obvious, and someone bright and lucky could have picked it from watching the trailer.

It wasn't even so much that it was fairly boring with not much happening but to end it all they combined two of the most overused and often worst performed endings in TV/film (the 'It was me all along' and the 'It was all a dream'). I also wish that Rory had just stayed dead because now this stupid storyline will drag on forever.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 May 2010, 10:33
I actually think it will mean that the stupid storyline isn't going to drag on forever - hopefully it will have put to rest any of the irritating Rory-jealousy things. I'm intrigued about how we're going to cope with two companions though; I guess we had the same thing with Mickey and Rose, though.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 May 2010, 02:18
Old who has some experience with two companions as well so it will turn out fine.

Loved the episode. But then I am an unashamed fanboy of the new series. It might all have been done in the past in other series but I don't care. Whenever new Who does something it almost always feels fresh.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Slick on 24 Jun 2010, 20:11
Man. I am not happy. I just caught up on the last two episodes and I am really not that thrilled here. Oh look, everyone the doctor's ever fought, united to stop him by locking him in a box. Great job, guys.
Why not, just, like, shoot him?
Also, what is this plastic consciousness you guys are just pillaging everything you can from the earlier series aren't you? The nesting consciousness was not a top-shelf bad guy, it was just a one-time thing. It was neat because it gave a reason to have store mannequins (which are super creepy anyways) to be running around as bad guys.

Man I could just go on but I won't. I am really disappointed for a bunch of reasons, but that is TV.

Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Jun 2010, 00:48
Well ... one time thing ... Wiki disagrees:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestene

Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 25 Jun 2010, 00:52
Now, that would make sense. This season has been filled with loving nods to Pertwee.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 25 Jun 2010, 02:19
Man. I am not happy. I just caught up on the last two episodes and I am really not that thrilled here. Oh look, everyone the doctor's ever fought, united to stop him by locking him in a box. Great job, guys.
Why not, just, like, shoot him?
presumably, they are aware that killing the doctor is seldom particularly effective. locking him in a box is actually a fairly reasonable approach in light of this.

and personally, i thought it was an interesting twist to have the bad guys trying to save the universe from the doctor.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Jun 2010, 02:30
Here's some insider info from Moffat on the final episode:

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/blog/2010/06/062410doctor_who_thing_of_the_day_st.html
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 Dec 2010, 14:36
Didn't get to see the Christmas episode, found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSzVTLS9OE) online
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 26 Dec 2010, 15:39
It's really really good, definitely the best christmas episode of at least New Who.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 24 Apr 2011, 21:13
*revives*

The Impossible Astronaut: FUCK YES THIS WILL BE A GOOD SEASON
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Kugai on 24 Apr 2011, 21:30
Didn't get to see the Christmas episode, found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBSzVTLS9OE) online

I followed that link Blue, and got 'This video is no longer available as the user has closed their account'
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Yayniall on 25 Apr 2011, 05:39
I enjoyed the Easter episode, was slightly surprised that there weren't any aliens though.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2011, 16:30
You mean aside from the creepyfaced astronaut things?

And Richard Nixon? Alien too.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 25 Apr 2011, 16:59
I hate cliffhangers! HATE! This is why I can't stand watching TV.

Also I think The Silence had me almost as creeped out as the Weeping Angels. Then I started thinking, "What if you put the two together into one memory-erasing quantum-locked being?" Then I couldn't fall asleep.

I love this show.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 25 Apr 2011, 18:21
I really didn't like the first episode of the new season, but maybe it was just the uneasiness of all of the characters made me uneasy. Also those memory-altering alien things are mean, they're going to ruin everything, why don't they just leave everyone alone.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 25 Apr 2011, 18:56
I enjoyed the Easter episode, was slightly surprised that there weren't any aliens though.
nice
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Apr 2011, 12:22
I really didn't like the first episode of the new season, but maybe it was just the uneasiness of all of the characters made me uneasy. Also those memory-altering alien things are mean, they're going to ruin everything, why don't they just leave everyone alone.

Because then the only plot of the episode would be "Shane lusts after Karen Gillan".
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 30 Apr 2011, 20:46
HERE THAR BE SPOILERS

What the hell was the lady in the vanishing door slot in the orphanage?

And why is the girl regenerating like a Time Lord?

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Kugai on 30 Apr 2011, 21:16
And Richard Nixon? Alien too.

Well, that certainly explains a lot.   :-D
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 01 May 2011, 02:16
This year's arc is going to be nothing short of humungous.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: squawk on 01 May 2011, 06:19
WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 01 May 2011, 17:38
Best season premiere of the revived series? Hell yes.

That was magnificent and a great way to set up a plot and tone for the season.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 01 May 2011, 20:15
Certainly topped The Eleventh Hour, my favorite opener thus far.

I suspect this will be a fantastic bunch of episodes, now that Moffat's had a year to build his Chekov's Armory in Series 5.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 01 May 2011, 20:17
Stephen Moffatt has made up for all the bad taste that Russel T. Davies put in my mouth. IN SPADES.

Just when I thought Season 5 was a slice of epic, Moffatt returns and one-ups himself in every way possible.

To paraphrase a famous movie quote: "Moffatt, you magnificent bastard...I read your BOOK!"
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 02 May 2011, 08:44
And why is the girl regenerating like a Time Lord?

 :psyduck:

A regeneration of the Master is my best guess.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 03 May 2011, 09:12
its pretty obvious that shes amys daughter, and being born in the tardis has meant that something about her is a little bit time lord.

As for the vanishing door slot in the orphanage. personally I'm betting at least half this season is actually dream memory/flashback that amy is having while in some sort of coma or hypnosis
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 06 May 2011, 07:19
She re-imagined reality wrong.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 09 May 2011, 13:40
Welp, this weekend's episode was the "Breather-episode-with-the-scaled-back-budget-so-we-don't-blow-more-minds-with-this-season's-arc." episode.

It was not the worst episode I have seen ("Love and Monsters" can ROT IN THE CHASMS OF HELL FOR ALL I CARE), but....not the best either.

Did give some nice character development for Rory and Amy, though. Plus, it had a decent twist I was not expecting, despite the seriously scaled back budget.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Kugai on 10 May 2011, 00:17
Ahhh, so the budget's back to 'BBC Standard' is it?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 10 May 2011, 09:46
Ahhh, so the budget's back to 'BBC Standard' is it?
Just for this episode, more than likely. But from the "Doctor Who Confidentials", everyone had fun with the episode despite the scaled back budget.

Also, "The Curse of the Black Spot" had some bad luck with scheduling. It's right after the phenomenal opening episodes, and right before Neil Gaiman brings back the damn SIDRATs from "The War Games" (aka, Patrick Troughton's last serial before regenerating, so like...1969). So, the episode kinda got the shaft on more than just the budget front.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 10 May 2011, 13:42
I would imagine it was quite a fun episode to make.

Pirates, for frig's sake!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Kugai on 10 May 2011, 20:51
And Captain Jack?


:D   ;)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 11 May 2011, 10:47
And Captain Jack?


:D   ;)
But he's not a pirate! He's an omnisexual time-traveling con man!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 11 May 2011, 11:35
I suppose some would call that a "space pirate", but I say "wrong sucka, there are actual pirates piloting that hospital ship now. They're space pirates".
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 12 May 2011, 10:41
I suppose some would call that a "space pirate", but I say "wrong sucka, there are actual pirates piloting that hospital ship now. They're space pirates".
The one question "Curse of the Black Spot" left in my mind was: What's going to happen to their original wooden ship now? We never did get to see that.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 May 2011, 12:58
Here's my theory: the baby is Rory's (because frankly if they cuckould poor Rory there will be outrage, not least from the readers of the Radio Times), but because it was conceived in the TARDIS, presumably, it can't get a lock on its reality and time line, so it is there and not there and maybe is the child who we see regenerating, and also the girl in the space suit, and possibly also some else too who we haven't met yet.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 12 May 2011, 13:22
Word on the street is it's someone we have met. I'm not sure how much stock I put into the theory though.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 12 May 2011, 13:59
Barmy, I think the time lords of the main timeline in new Who are descended from humans. When they were removed from history it was from the history of that timeline and the Doctor is now so far removed from his own so the writers can still bring back Time Lords in future serials (Take that, RTD!) without it being to great of a stretch (cause let's face it, most things in this series have been a stretch). I expect that we will visit a "Gallifrey" at some point that has been settled by the Scottish/English/French refugee ships and that there will be Ponds.  
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 13 May 2011, 00:30
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkumcgS6vQ1qb3z8e.png)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkumcm0M5H1qb3z8e.png)


D:

Still not liking this series as much as the last, but who am I to complain? It is my favourite thing ever.
TOMORROW: NEIL GAIMAN OMG OMG OMG
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 13 May 2011, 01:22
i love that
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 13 May 2011, 06:27
I'll admit that I let out a groan of "STOP. KILLING. RORY" during the last episode.

I then realized the fact that Moffat is just screwing with is. Rory is more immortal than the Doctor.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 14 May 2011, 15:14
Next week we get a the first of a biopunk 2 parter, so excited.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 May 2011, 22:18
The Weeping Angels are still more scary then the Silent
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 15 May 2011, 20:09
So, "The Doctor's Wife" was a nice episode. Part of me expected it to be a two-parter, but for what we got, it was good.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 15 May 2011, 20:31
It was very touching! Very much along the lines of Vincent And The Doctor, at least emotionally - I'll admit I got a bit choked up at both. Gaiman definitely did the series justice.

Also, as freaky as the Rory thing was, I busted up laughing when
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: squawk on 16 May 2011, 00:57
I have been shipping the Doctor/TARDIS for... okay, not very long, like two weeks lol but I thought it was such a great and nifty idea and NOW IT IS CANON AND I AM HAPPY
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 16 May 2011, 09:19
There was a decent enough Torchwood episode called "They Keep Killing Suzie". There definitely needs to be a "They Keep Killing Rory" episode.

Anyway, yeah, completely great.

The Doctor:
She's a woman. And she's the TARDIS.
Amy: Did you wish really hard?
The Doctor: Shut up! It's not like that.
The TARDIS: Hello! I'm Sexy!
The Doctor: ...still shut up!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 16 May 2011, 12:38
I find Doctor Who pretty funny, but "Did you wish really hard?" was the first time I had to pause the TV while laughing.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 May 2011, 12:54
I'm running a week or so behind, thanks to OnDemand I can actually watch them. I thought the Black Spot was just ok. But really Moffat, trying to kill of Rory again?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 16 May 2011, 16:23
The Doctor's Wife was brilliant brilliant excellent but I did not expect any less from Mr Gaiman, did anyone else tear up when they saw the old console? No? Just me then.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 16 May 2011, 16:52
I'm in the Smith > Tennant grouping, so..it was pretty cool.

I do like the coral/whatever it is that was in Tennant's control room more than Smith's, though. It's prettier. And he always threw his jacket on it.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 16 May 2011, 23:04
The Doctor's Wife was brilliant brilliant excellent but I did not expect any less from Mr Gaiman, did anyone else tear up when they saw the old console? No? Just me then.
I kinda wished they went with an older control room (like from the classic series) as opposed to the RTD era of Doctor Who, which was still somewhat fresh in people's minds. But, yes, Neil Gaiman did a good job.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 17 May 2011, 06:30
I can still hear Amy saying "did you wish really hard?" when I think about it, that was such a brilliant line. I did tear up a little when he had to say goodbye, although not as much as when he said goodbye to Rose - I was actually sobbing then. It was a great episode, but it didn't have a whole lot of plot in it. Or at least, it didn't advance the story arc very much.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Muppet King on 17 May 2011, 14:33
The Doctor's Wife was brilliant brilliant excellent but I did not expect any less from Mr Gaiman, did anyone else tear up when they saw the old console? No? Just me then.
I kinda wished they went with an older control room (like from the classic series) as opposed to the RTD era of Doctor Who, which was still somewhat fresh in people's minds. But, yes, Neil Gaiman did a good job.

That was my first thought, but then I realized they'd probably have to rebuild the old control rooms or do a terrible green screen in order to pull it off.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 17 May 2011, 21:15
So what is up with the new intro with Amy Pond explaining everything? I was hoping it was a one time thing but I guess not.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 18 May 2011, 00:10
It's just for you guys.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 18 May 2011, 13:16
So what is up with the new intro with Amy Pond explaining everything? I was hoping it was a one time thing but I guess not.
My guess...is that the BBC realized how much more U.S. viewers Doctor Who has garnered over the past few years, and decided to put a summary for new viewers to bring them up to speed.

As an American, I do find it a little insulting, considering that from Tom's post, it's an U.S. exclusive. Yes, Doctor Who has made a success in the United States, but that does not mean we haven't caught up on the mythos and history of the series.

Then again, this is the same company that only realized NOW that simulcasting in the UK and the US is good for business.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 18 May 2011, 13:34
Whereas Australia gets it a fortnight later.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Inlander on 18 May 2011, 15:48
No, they're down to a week later now. Progress!

As for the recap bit, just think of it as an excuse to hear more of a woman talking in a Scottish accent. What's to complain about?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: pwhodges on 19 May 2011, 11:49
Actually, it is.  The licence fee and the grant for overseas services do not cover everything.  Even when I worked there (around 1970) there was a division called BBC Enterprises that specifically made programs (or separate recordings of domestic programs, like the Proms) for sale abroad.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 19 May 2011, 13:23
The BBC ain't a company in the business of making money. :P
*looks at how most of William Hartnell's episodes and nearly all of Patrick Troughton's episodes are completely lost forever*
<_<
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Kugai on 19 May 2011, 14:41
Happened about 30-40 years ago.

In one of the greatest acts of Institutional Vandalism, the BBC destroyed hundreds, if not thousands of Video Tapes and Films in it's archive simply to save on space and money.  As far as I'm concerned, those responsible should have been arrested and sent to a prison in Antarctica.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 19 May 2011, 14:43
I had no idea about that. Suppose I don't know everything.
The fact of the matter is the BBC is at fault for that. Back in the day, the BBC would recycle tapes for their content as a cost-cutting measure (IIRC). Most of the adventures from the first 3 Doctors are literally compiled from undestroyed tapes and fan recordings of the adventures in varying amounts.

Edit: Ninja'd.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: pwhodges on 19 May 2011, 14:58
Same goes for the first Quatermass series - only fragments remain.

I worked at the BBC at a time that recordings were still wiped and the tape reused (I had to specify when drawing tape from stores for a recording whether it should be new or "serviced").  And tape is not easy or cheap to store, and at the time at issue it was expensive as well.  Film was not much better.

The plain fact is that then, as now, huge  amounts of material were being created, and there was no clear sense that everything equally deserved to be preserved for a grateful future - why would the future not prefer its own, better, stuff?  We don't know that what we are doing is truly historical until long after the event. 

Example 1:  In 1970, the BBC broadcast a piece by Stockhausen, which was a directed improvisation by a full orchestra; it was only moderately successful, but I know  that the final rehearsal for it was far better, stunning even, because I recorded it - but the tape is gone, as it was only recorded as an emergency backup in case something went wrong on the night of the live broadcast. 

Example 2:  I have just been asked permission, literally a few minutes ago, for the British Library to archive (as part of a website archive) two photos I took when fooling around as a student!  How easy it would have been for me to lose them or throw them away at any time in the last forty years.

A last thought:  Remember that until the late 1950s and into the 1960s, most programs were broadcast live, even multi-scene TV drama like Quatermass.  The use of recording was not started to preserve programs, but as a means of time-slipping, on the one hand to enable programs to be edited and built up from separate scenes, and on the other to allow a repeat broadcast for convenience.  Archival  preservation was simply not part of the consideration, and this attitude only changed by degrees.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 23 May 2011, 18:08
On The Rebel Flesh (mild spoilers may ensue)


I'm thinking this might be the Auton origin story, which would be very cool. I was hoping Waters of Mars might be the origin story of the Ice Warriors from classic who but they let that opportunity go by.

as for The Almost people the only thing I really hope it does is gives Rory an explosion because after all he knows exactly what it is like to be in a body which doesn't really own the memories it possess.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 23 May 2011, 18:23
Autons are plastic, the flesh isn't.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 23 May 2011, 20:29
I was ready to hate The Rebel Flesh because the promo shots looked so Waters of Mars, but I had a feeling of horrible dread in my heart and stomach the whole time and it was excellent excellent excellent, what a cliffhanger!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 23 May 2011, 21:06
The entire time I was just thinking that I remember an episode of Voyager like this (S5E18, Course: Oblivion). Granted, however, it's one of the best episodes of Voyager.

I didn't think it was fantastic, but it was pretty enjoyable. This season began with such a good ongoing plot that, honestly, unless the episodes that have nothing to do with it are absolutely tremendous(like The Doctor's Wife), I'm just disappointed. Especially with the terrible, heavy-handed ways they shove "HEY REMEMBER WE HAVE MYSTERIES THIS SEASON" into every episode.

I mean, honestly, the writing staff could probably stand to watch some American TV from after 1990 to figure out how to do this stuff better. Or, even, RTD's run. I hate to criticize Moffat by pointing out RTD's successes, but he was way more successful with this sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 28 May 2011, 15:13
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The cheeky git.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 29 May 2011, 08:31
I was SO excited as we'd been speculating on something along those lines and were wondering when they'd start actually doing something with that arc. I actually yelled, "Now we're getting somewhere!"
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 01 Jun 2011, 15:16
Demons run when a good man goes to war.
Night will fall and drown the sun when a good man goes to war.
Friendship dies and true love lies,
Night will fall and the dark will rise
When a good man goes to war.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 02 Jun 2011, 08:30
My stepdad posited that maybe Amy's baby will somehow turn out to be the Doctor's granddaughter, who disappeared into the realms of time in one of the old series, but I think that the new version of DW has decided to conveniently forget about her, and also that it would just be one level of complexity too far. Then again, the Doctor's daughter is around somewhere still.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Yayniall on 02 Jun 2011, 14:00
My theory can be summed up in one word: Dadvros
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 02 Jun 2011, 14:05
Eh, my theory has always been that Timelords were just mutant humans.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 02 Jun 2011, 18:47
My stepdad posited that maybe Amy's baby will somehow turn out to be the Doctor's granddaughter, who disappeared into the realms of time in one of the old series, but I think that the new version of DW has decided to conveniently forget about her, and also that it would just be one level of complexity too far. Then again, the Doctor's daughter is around somewhere still.

he's made references to being a father a few times in the new series, and that his family is all dead.

personally though, i hope that they do bring susan back eventually, and jenny too
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Jun 2011, 19:21
Jenny will almost definitely return, I think, in some form. Her survival of the episode was specifically requested by Moffat.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 03 Jun 2011, 01:04
i wonder if they'll explain why she didn't change when she came back to life like the doctor does.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 03 Jun 2011, 04:27
Wait, who was that little girl we saw regenerating in an alleyway? Are we saying that she's Jenny, or Amy's baby, or some other mysterious person?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 03 Jun 2011, 11:41
Wait, who was that little girl we saw regenerating in an alleyway? Are we saying that she's Jenny, or Amy's baby, or some other mysterious person?
At this point, I am not sure. If I recall some of the Confidentials from the earlier episodes (the ones for Astronaut and Moon), we will see her new form in a later episode(s). Just know when we see a teaser for a hotel hallway episode, that's when we'll probably find out who this girl is.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Ozymandias on 03 Jun 2011, 12:57
i wonder if they'll explain why she didn't change when she came back to life like the doctor does.

She didn't regenerate, she was just healed by the terraforming energy.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 03 Jun 2011, 20:46
ok, i guess that makes about as much sense as most things in dr who, but they could have made that abit more clear.


Wait, who was that little girl we saw regenerating in an alleyway? Are we saying that she's Jenny, or Amy's baby, or some other mysterious person?

i think she's the girl from the space suit, who's probably amelia's baby.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: squawk on 04 Jun 2011, 18:12
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIS EPISODE
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 04 Jun 2011, 18:14
Rory was so awesome.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 04 Jun 2011, 18:14
And can we please not overuse the Flesh.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: squawk on 04 Jun 2011, 18:29
Dad Rory is great. Roman Rory is great. What a bamf. Although I thought him telling the Doctor to stop hugging Amy was unnecessary, Rory isn't that much of a butt, stop writing him like that
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 04 Jun 2011, 19:05
so awesome! can't wait 'til next week!

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THE DOCTOR WILL BE BACK
hell yeah!
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IN LET'S KILL HITLER
sweeet
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AUTUMN 2011
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Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 04 Jun 2011, 19:10
Should be back in September.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Muppet King on 04 Jun 2011, 23:28
Great episode, but I still want to smack Moffat for all the two-parters and his obsession with Chekhov's Gun.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 05 Jun 2011, 07:23
I got goosebuuuumps! I saw it coming from pretty close to the beginning of the episode and STILL got chills. Yay!

And yeah, these two-parters are getting on my nerves; I already don't like television shows because I like things to be wrapped up in nice neat little packages. At least this one didn't end with SO much of a cliffhanger like the others have, but still... hiatus sucks.

Squawk - I think it was a little more tongue-in-cheek than anything, since the doctor teased about asking permission first. Maybe a little bit of honesty thrown in too, but I think at this point Rory realizes there's nothing there.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jun 2011, 06:11
Yeah I'm not too impressed by the break until the autumn, not least because in the autumn I won't have a TV! ARGH!

I can't believe I didn't realise about Amy's baby as soon as we found out her name. I'd remarked on the watery link between the two women ages ago, and it just didn't click! My mind is rather tangled trying to work out how exactly it can be true - and also I am in awe at how far in advance this must have been planned.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 07 Jun 2011, 06:58
I don't have a tv now :-D
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Metope on 08 Jun 2011, 06:06
I don't have a tv either, May, just watch it on bbc iplayer!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Jun 2011, 06:16
I forget that in the real world people have internet connections which are faster than 352Kbps.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 12 Jun 2011, 19:48
(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/goofy_man_JG/Random%20the%20Seventh/e279ebbc.jpg)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 24 Jul 2011, 18:37
Series 6 Part 2 Trailer (http://doctorwho.tumblr.com/post/8013196823/its-working-go-watch-doctorwho-the-new).

SO MANY QUESTIONS


Also: here's an awesome video of the Doctor Who Fan Orchestra playing 'I Am The Doctor.' It brings tears to my eyes each time I watch it.... an entire orchestra created of Whovians from all over the world, playing their instruments in their bedrooms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj1YhlEmXkw
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: IMMANotListening on 26 Jul 2011, 23:07
Totally called it that the Silence were coming back. I was so disappointed with them in the first two episodes because I felt like there was just this huge crescendo of expectations that they were going to make shit hit the fan and then, yeah.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 27 Jul 2011, 02:00
Rory punched Hitler  :-D
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 13 Aug 2011, 18:51
So, to hold people over before the season resumes on the 27th, the BBC is doing interviews with celebrities on what their favorite Matt Smith episodes/characters/villains/monsters are. And it's being done over the next three weekends (including tonight).

*sigh* This should have been a DVD extra, not a TV special. Just do reruns of season 6. That'll help people catch up, not interviews with random people.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Aug 2011, 15:49
Rory punched Hitler  :-D

I nearly got up and high fived my TV when I saw that.

So, to hold people over before the season resumes on the 27th, the BBC is doing interviews with celebrities on what their favorite Matt Smith episodes/characters/villains/monsters are. And it's being done over the next three weekends (including tonight).

The thing that sucks about those is that it's all just the last season. Asking people their scariest Who-niverse creature?

Vashta Nerada, game, set, match.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 23 Aug 2011, 17:29
So, to hold people over before the season resumes on the 27th, the BBC is doing interviews with celebrities on what their favorite Matt Smith episodes/characters/villains/monsters are. And it's being done over the next three weekends (including tonight).

The thing that sucks about those is that it's all just the last season. Asking people their scariest Who-niverse creature?

Vashta Nerada, game, set, match.
While I may not be up to date on the classic foes/creatures, I will say that out of the new seasons, the Weeping Angels are bowels-breaking terrifying. The concept of them alone is just a nightmare. Then Moffat ratcheted-up the nightmare fuel in season 5 with the two-parter featuring them.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 23 Aug 2011, 23:30
personally, i think their creepitude was somewhat diminished when he showed them moving.

i'm really hoping to see more of the silence.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 27 Aug 2011, 19:52
So, "Let's Kill Hitler". It was an interesting episode. All I will say is that the title is misleading on a literal level.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 27 Aug 2011, 22:41
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqmhhp8i5L1qzqhxdo1_500.png)

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River: Hel-loooo Boys!

Nazi Guard: What are you doing here?

River: Well, I was on my way to this gay, gypsy Bar Mitzvah for the disabled, when I suddenly thought, Gosh, the Third Reich is a bit rubbish, I think Ill kill the Fhrer. Whos with me?

Alex Kingston is fabulous.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: IMMANotListening on 28 Aug 2011, 04:14
SO MANY LEVELS OF AWESOME...YET AT THE SAME TIME, SO MANY QUESTIONS.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Aug 2011, 12:29
Once again, a great Amy/Rory timing/reponse joke:

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Amy: Can you ride a motorbike?
Rory: I'd expect so, it's that sort of day.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 30 Aug 2011, 14:55
Once again, a great Amy/Rory timing/reponse joke:

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Amy: Can you ride a motorbike?
Rory: I'd expect so, it's that sort of day.
Of course, that line implies that days like "Let's Kill Hitler" have happened before. *looks at "The Pandorica Opens/"The Big Bang"*
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 02 Sep 2011, 01:57
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Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 02 Sep 2011, 04:53
It occurs to me that it might have been a clever way of getting around the fact that the doctor only has two regenerations left over. Perhaps now he has an extra nine.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 04 Sep 2011, 01:19
that's what i figure, it just strikes me odd that her parents weren't abit more concerned over it. it also might justify a few things that would otherwise seem like discrepancies.

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Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Yayniall on 04 Sep 2011, 08:19
Discrepancies in Dr Who?
A perception filter did it.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 05 Sep 2011, 05:35
works for mr
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 05 Sep 2011, 07:45
Well, "Night Terrors" was a nice little breather episode. Sure, it felt a little weak here and there, but it definitely made up for that in sheer nightmare fuel.

Still waiting on "The God Complex" (i.e., the minotaur episode), which is a little later in the season I think. From the preview of that episode I saw, it looks like it'll be a very interesting ride.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 05 Sep 2011, 12:56
i thought it was doing really well up until the third act.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Sep 2011, 12:37
Remember like two seconds ago when we were talking about the scariest creatures?

Giant ugly doll: low on that list.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Tom on 07 Sep 2011, 13:30
Mark Gatis can write Crime and Detective fiction quite well but he sucks at Sci-Fi.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: axerton on 09 Sep 2011, 02:43
that's what i figure, it just strikes me odd that her parents weren't abit more concerned over it. it also might justify a few things that would otherwise seem like discrepancies.

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Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Sep 2011, 19:25
How badass is Rory? (http://rorywilliamsfacts.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: JD on 11 Sep 2011, 10:34
So I started watching Doctor Who for the first time ever. Was starting with Let's kill Hitler a bad place to start
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Metope on 11 Sep 2011, 12:32
Yes, wow, you must be so confused right now.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: SirDudley on 11 Sep 2011, 16:46
So I started watching Doctor Who for the first time ever. Was starting with Let's kill Hitler a bad place to start
Yes. Go back to the start of the revival in 2005 and work your way up to the current season. You'll be better off. Although, avoid "Love and Monsters" like a disease-ridden mutant freakshow. No exceptions.

------------------------------------------------
Moving on, "The Girl Who Waited" was a nice episode. I liked how we get some serious development on Rory and Amy's relationship and how a slight gag from the beginning of Matt Smith's run (his Doctor never being on time) comes back to bite him in the ass. Props to Karen Gillian for her acting skills in this one.

Next week is "The God Complex". I await with excitement.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: questionablecontentfan on 13 Sep 2011, 13:51
A BLOO BLA BLOO BLOOO TENNANT BLOO

This, but perhaps more eloquently.

:(
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Lunchbox on 15 Sep 2011, 22:12
I like Love and Monsters.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: TinPenguin on 01 Oct 2011, 15:01
So, final episode of the series just aired. I said from the very first two episodes that I wouldn't be able to pass judgement until I'd seen how it all ended.

And now I have... wow, that was fantastic!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 01 Oct 2011, 18:24
well, the 'twist' was telegraphed a mile off, but yeah, that was pretty great. Especially right at the end, although tying it to 'the fall of eleven' or whatever it was means that they're setting up plot points that won't come to fruition until Smith decides to do something else.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 02 Oct 2011, 00:47
well that's kind of as it should be. foreshadowing big events like that needs to be done far in advance to build up anticipation.

the one thing i'm abit disappointed in with this season is that with everything else, they don't seem to have made any movement on the big question from the end of the last one: why did the tardis explode?

and could rory get anymore badass?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 02 Oct 2011, 00:50
I got quite muddled but I was happy just to let it carry on and see what happened. Am I right in thinking that this series finale was the one written by a group of school children? If so, great job children! I enjoyed that much more than some of the "proper" writers' episodes.

I was not expecting the plot twist, actually, but that's probably because I don't think about it but just let it happen. I'd genuinely started to believe that the Doctor was going to die and wondering what on earth they were going to do with Matt Smith for the remaining year he's contracted for!

Remind me - who are the Eleven? Ought I know this?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: TinPenguin on 02 Oct 2011, 02:51
I was not expecting the plot twist, actually, but that's probably because I don't think about it but just let it happen.

Same here. I find shows much more enjoyable when I just sit back and let the storyteller tell.

Remind me - who are the Eleven? Ought I know this?

Look at the thread title. :wink:
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 02 Oct 2011, 05:52
well that's kind of as it should be. foreshadowing big events like that needs to be done far in advance to build up anticipation.
--
and could rory get anymore badass?
It's not that it won't happen for a while which would be fine, it's that it won't happen until things not at all related to the story come to pass which means that the writers will be forced to spin wheels for a while. So while I'm sure I'll enjoy the stuff the team comes up with as they haven't failed me yet, I'll never be able to shake the feeling that on some level it's all filler plot.

and probably, lets be honest. He hasn't stopped yet.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Elysiana on 02 Oct 2011, 09:23
We felt a little let-down by this finale, honestly. We both caught the twist as it happened and I think that didn't help. I guess we were hoping for a little more scary or suspenseful from Steven Moffat.

However, Rory is as badass as they come. *swoons*
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: IMMANotListening on 07 Oct 2011, 01:55
I was kinda underwhelmed by the finale actually. It just seemed so 'meh, just another day of Doctor Who'. There's just been too many 'shocking' twists thrown in this season that nothing really surprised me at the end.

(I don't know why but I was really annoyed with the visual difference between the scenes they had filmed in Utah for 'The Impossible Astronaut' with the ones in the finale. It was a really minor thing but that really distracted me...)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Oct 2011, 02:34
I think that was deliberate - between them the Doctor and River had changed the course of history, so of course things were slightly different. At least, that is how I reconcile it :)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 18 Nov 2011, 01:54
Like IMMANotListening I was also underwhelmed by the finale. As I was when the 10th doctor died. Next season Matt Smith will end his Dr Who carreer so by then the doctor will be changed and the pond story line will end. I'd like that. Untill this season I've seen enough Pond and the story actually has been told now. I'm looking forward to a very dark and scary season where the 11th doctor will finally snap and lose it.That's what I hope is going to happen.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 15 Dec 2011, 14:14
Steven Moffat announces "The final days of the Ponds are coming during the next series. Then the Doctor will meet a new friend"

Wooooo :)

I'm glad!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Dec 2011, 10:15
I would love it if just once the Doctor had a companion who wasn't very important really but he just liked having them around.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: J on 18 Dec 2011, 04:21
I would love it if just once the Doctor had a companion who wasn't very important really but he just liked having them around.

there was martha
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: TinPenguin on 20 Dec 2011, 05:17
Also, there needs to be less sexual tension on the tardis. As well as having someone who isn't crucial to the fate of the universe, it'd be nice if it was absolutely clear that they are a companion and not a concubine.

I second the vote for Bill Bailey.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 23 Dec 2011, 11:05
Well we'll find out the day after tomorrow how likely that is!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Mister D Nomms on 23 Dec 2011, 12:22
I nominate myself as the next companion.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 18 Jan 2012, 14:36
I third the vote on Bill Bailey!

Also, there should be no sexual tension ever  between the doctor and the companion. Simply because the Doctor can not love a human being and it's inappropriate for the young viewers seeing a 900 hundred year old magician have intercourse with... well... even a 50 year old would be weird. Becuase lets say the doctor instead is 90 years old... 50 would make... 5 years old... Oh god... what have i done!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: schimmy on 19 Jan 2012, 07:03
Division instead of subtraction?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: alienatedduck on 21 Jan 2012, 08:13
Luckily for him super-paedophilia isn't outlawed where he's from.

Clearly he wouldn't be able to resist Bill Bailey though, so that's out of the picture.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 22 Jan 2012, 01:08
They can't have Bill Bailey in it if they ever want to put in on BBC America! NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Mister D Nomms on 22 Jan 2012, 01:24
Bill Bailey? Make Bailey Jay the new companion!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 22 Jan 2012, 03:15
DrPhibes do you have a weird phobia of Bill Bailey or is he for some reason banned from American TV? (I'd find it hilarious if that was the case.)
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 22 Jan 2012, 05:41
tuathal started it :P
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 22 Jan 2012, 07:15
Bill Bailey for the next companion/doctor!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 22 Jan 2012, 12:17
I realized Bill Bailey was in the Christmas special so he probably won't be on a next series!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 24 Jan 2012, 07:51
But that's how Donna got onto the series!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 27 Jan 2012, 21:04
yeah but she was rubbish
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: schimmy on 29 Jan 2012, 04:11
(http://s2.madeformums.com/uploads/images/medium/4961.jpg)

How could you say such a thing?
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 29 Jan 2012, 17:57
because it's true
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 29 Jan 2012, 22:25
I liked her!
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Theriandros on 30 Jan 2012, 01:53
Like IMMANotListening I was also underwhelmed by the finale. As I was when the 10th doctor died. Next season Matt Smith will end his Dr Who carreer so by then the doctor will be changed and the pond story line will end. I'd like that. Untill this season I've seen enough Pond and the story actually has been told now. I'm looking forward to a very dark and scary season where the 11th doctor will finally snap and lose it.That's what I hope is going to happen.

"Sometimes I think a Timelord lives too long."
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Barmymoo on 30 Jan 2012, 04:12
I thought Donna was great, it was nice to have a character not in love with the doctor and a bit older than usual - but it would be good as I've said before if we could have a companion who was interesting but not universe-critical. I find it hard to believe that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who the Doctor meets turns out to be the one person on the planet who can avert disaster merely by existing.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: alienatedduck on 30 Jan 2012, 07:00
To be fair, they at least justify most of it around that being the reason he met them (IE Amy), or that they're important because they've been on the Tardis to begin with (Donna and Rose).

But yeah, just someone who's around for the heck of it would be pretty cool. But at the same time I'd wonder what would be their storyline if such a thing were to happen...
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: Mister D Nomms on 30 Jan 2012, 12:14
I always thought a kid would be a perfect companion for the doctor, except when they're about to die.
Title: Re: The Eleventh Doctor
Post by: DrPhibes on 31 Jan 2012, 08:39
I think after seeing Amy a kid is the worst thing the doctor can have. She will lose ALL kids-things! Being young and unspoiled (no pun intended) is what a kid is being about. So in Amy's case only meeting the Doctor ruined her a bit. There should be a Donna ending to that season if there is ever one with a kid.