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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: wargrafix on 18 Jan 2009, 20:09
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We are alive yet another week. I'm sure the universe will find a way to correct that problem.
chat away people, chat away.
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We are alive yet another week. I'm sure the universe will find a way to correct that problem.
chat away people, chat away.
I cast meteor strike, dealing earth 20M Damage. Earth Dies.
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In other Words, "Rock(s) fall, everyone dies"?
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In other Words, "Rock(s) fall, everyone dies"?
yup
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"When the avalanche begins, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." Kosh Naranek
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We are alive yet another week. I'm sure the universe will find a way to correct that problem.
chat away people, chat away.
I cast meteor strike, dealing earth 20M Damage. Earth Dies.
I cast Astronomer's luck
Meteor missed by 3.2 million miles
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We are alive yet another week. I'm sure the universe will find a way to correct that problem.
chat away people, chat away.
I cast meteor strike, dealing earth 20M Damage. Earth Dies.
I cast Astronomer's luck
Meteor missed by 3.2 million miles
Fine then, I roll my D20 getting a 12, There for I cast redirect, which moves the meteor back on course to re-hit the earth
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you guys, you're only supposed to post if you're funny.
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
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O, jeez, Tybalt, nobody could post then. Unless you don't mean "funny-ha-ha." We're all the other type of funny.
Sings:
I don't want to drink my whisky like you do
I don't need to spend my money but still do
You get my point.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
Edit: Here's the link for those who need the rest of the lyrics http://www.elyrics.net/read/s/slade-lyrics/mama-weer-all-crazee-now-lyrics.html (http://www.elyrics.net/read/s/slade-lyrics/mama-weer-all-crazee-now-lyrics.html)
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O, jeez, Tybalt, nobody could post then. Unless you don't mean "funny-ha-ha." We're all the other type of funny.
the other kind of funny? damn it..... i hate being funny looking. it always depresses me when people choose to bring it up
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 2+ Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
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uhhh. guess what. you forgot to cast plague immunity prior to meteor strike. you catch plague.
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uhhh. guess what. you forgot to cast plague immunity prior to meteor strike. you catch plague.
I'm a high level non-human mage. My class and race are immune to human illness.
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I cast Final Fantasy series
Everyone on Earth gets Narcolepsyyyy......snzxxxxxxxx...*snore*
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uhhh. guess what. you forgot to cast plague immunity prior to meteor strike. you catch plague.
I'm a high level non-human mage. My class and race are immune to human illness.
Immune to humor, too, I see.
S
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Great comic today.
Normally I don't LOL at comics, even if I think they are funny. This was an exception. I love the whole Sven & Faye relationship.
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"When the avalanche begins, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." Kosh Naranek
An asteroid is but a pebble in the solar system of life. :-P
Funny comic, too. :)
Faye, is..... THIS :-o the face you make?
First I was like :-o
Then I was like :-)
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Great comic today.
Normally I don't LOL at comics, even if I think they are funny. This was an exception. I love the whole Sven & Faye relationship.
No bitch slap for Faye, no drink for me.
Sobriety sucks.
S
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One can hear Interns mind going 'TMI! TMI! TMI!'
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uhhh. guess what. you forgot to cast plague immunity prior to meteor strike. you catch plague.
I'm a high level non-human mage. My class and race are immune to human illness.
Immune to humor, too, I see.
S
lol hahahah
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Normally I don't LOL at comics, even if I think they are funny. This was an exception.
I too laughed out loud at this comic, something I recently haven't done much with QC. Good comic today at least.
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I knew, knew, knew Faye and Sven were going to be in some post-coital situation this strip. And yet, instead of calling it, I got drawn into a ridiculous prepost fiddlefaddle. Oh, woe!
Can what we've really missed in the intervening time be the discovery that Sven acting like a pig gets Faye hot?
That would certainly explain why she and Marten didn't work out.
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I knew, knew, knew Faye and Sven were going to be in some post-coital situation this strip. And yet, instead of calling it, I got drawn into a ridiculous prepost fiddlefaddle. Oh, woe!
Can what we've really missed in the intervening time be the discovery that Sven acting like a pig gets Faye hot?
That would certainly explain why she and Marten didn't work out.
You know, based upon the archives, I can agree with this assessment.
I am a little appalled that I didn't notice the parallel sooner.
S
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I personally enjoy the Faye-Sven relationship, because it is a classic Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object dynamic. Which will win, the lady-corrupting suaveness or massive psychological baggage with sarcastic teeth? One will have to change! Also, I look forward to the dramatic monologues when they break up.
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@johnnynutty: Oh, I don't want them to break up! I enjoy reading their shenanigans too much! Although I suppose their breakup shenanigans would be almost as good. Also, I totally agree with your assessment.
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No bitch slap for Faye, no drink for me.
Sobriety sucks.
So do people who like to advertise how much they drink.
Transferring post from wrong thread (because I'm an idiot):
God, Faye is my best friend incarnate. She handles things exactly the same way, has the same sense of humor, the same temper, and even resembles her. Also, their names rhyme. It's weirding me out more and more.
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i wonder how winslow is doing.......
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Bah. Rocks ! To extinct life, you need way more than that. Rocks arent even enough for getting rid of life on EARTH. At very least you would have to throw the Earth into the Sun, or something like that.
A really good candidate is the possibility that we live in a false vacuum, and the possibility that someone finds a way to leave it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum
Now that would be a real doomsday device !
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
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yeah!!!!! lol I loved today's comic!
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
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I kinda want to see the face Faye makes. Not the situation in which she makes it, of course, just the face.
Sven should take a photo of it.
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I think your avatar might come close.
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This comic is the best comic,Evah.
I wonder why Faye doesnt come down and have a nice laugh,then hit Sven.
How how are Dora,Martin,Hannelore,Winslow and Raven doing? Also Penny and Wil?
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This comic is the best comic,Evah.
I wonder why Faye doesnt come down and have a nice laugh,then hit Sven.
How how are Dora,Martin,Hannelore,Winslow and Raven doing? Also Penny and Wil?
Because if she hits Sven, she'd be fucked.
Oh wait....that happened already.
Dora's probably cozying with Martin, who might be coming down with the flu. Hannelore is trying to clean out winslow who is still worrying if hunreds of years really did pass and these are all clones. Raven is probably doing the hundred man march. Hundred, hurr, hurr. Pen-pen is reading about the places Wil will visit. Will is riding the hell out of Dodge.
That about covers it?
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This might be the fact that I've moved from north to south to north to south in my life, but I personally found the joke about country music funnier than the sex joke.
(But, interestingly enough, hiphop is more popular in the south, and country's more popular in the north...)
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i wonder how winslow is doing.......
It will be interesting seeing him working in the Breast Pits of Sexicon Eleven.
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Is it just me, or does Sven look a lot like Marten on the left side of panel 3?
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Faye is hilarious. The first strip I ever read was the one where she and the intern met and had their "discussion" of Faye's thing with Sven; then I knew I had to start from the beginning and read current. It is just so funny that Faye would still get embarrassed about Lydia seeing her at Sven's when her first response to her was, "We're not. We just fuck sometimes." That Faye always keeps me guessing.
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The only thing to top this is the intern walking in right as faye and sven are doing it and see the "mysterious expression".
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Might be a bit off topic... but... Did Barry get elected in the QC universe?
i mean with that time jump thing we probably skipped over November, and there's really no mention of Politics that I remember...
Ohh well, off to Washington.
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wahey decent character development, decent relationship development and an amusing joke, QC is doing well again
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I think [Thaes'] avatar might come close.
I think sex might scare me then.
"Oh my god...I'm almost...."
"LOOK AWAY! LOOK AWAY!!!!"
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Intern's name is Lydia. Just btw. ^^
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"LOOK AWAY! LOOK AWAY!!!!"
Dixieland!
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has steve died?
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great comic! i love that on days I dont have to work Jeph still does his job. Thanks Jeph!
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The strip is great -- the title makes it epic.
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This comic failed to find relevance in the foregoing WCT discussion, unlike the previous couple. It did not, however, fail to make me laugh, which is basically why I read it and I don't know why the hell I sound like I'm criticizing it YAY LOLS.
I was thinking about how many different mugs with print there are in QC after getting the latest 'fuck you' from Sven's mug, but there actually haven't been any of those since 1270. Do they out stickers on them or do they get printed like that?
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Might be a bit off topic... but... Did Barry get elected in the QC universe?
i mean with that time jump thing we probably skipped over November, and there's really no mention of Politics that I remember...
Ohh well, off to Washington.
haven't heard Obama called Barry, that's.... interesting?
Here is the classic example of separate timelines, when it's indie rock, time is current to our universe. But everything else stays the same. Politics was never placed into either timeline, so we could very well be seeing the Bush re-election in the coming years (the comic started in 2003, remember?).
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I wonder when Miranda Lambert is coming with another album. She's the only current country singer I like if you don't count alt-country (Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams).
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has steve died?
We can hope.
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Gina Riversmith doesn't exist in real life does she? I tried googling her, to no avail.
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has steve died?
We can hope.
le gasp!
Surely you don't mean that. (Personally I think he's off with all the various imaginary friends he seems to have, and Pastor Vodka is taking care of them all.)
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
I think a certain hot tempered half Klingon Chief Engineer would object to that - Rather forcefully!!
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Intern's name is Lydia. Just btw. ^^
On that note (but much more pedantically), Marten (with an E) and Wil (with only one L) are characters in QC. Martin and Will do not appear in this strip, though I notice many people write about them in this thread.
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
I think a certain hot tempered half Klingon Chief Engineer would object to that - Rather forcefully!!
she can "object" me all night long. I still want to screw Seven of Nine.
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Quote tunnels for the loss. Jesus Christ. STOP IT.
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Wait - Seven of Nine had a voice? See, this is what I get for only ever watching her in slow motion or still frame.
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I think your avatar might come close.
ew, I hope you're wrong
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The strip is great -- the title makes it epic.
La, your avatar makes me cry with laughter every single time I see it. :D
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
I think a certain hot tempered half Klingon Chief Engineer would object to that - Rather forcefully!!
she can "object" me all night long. I still want to screw Seven of Nine.
Enjoy your trip out the Airlock - Sans Pressure Suit.
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Is opening an airlock really the best method for execution?
I mean, how can you be sure the person dies? There's no verification.
Yeah, the odds are low, but there are several instances in sci-fi where people survive airlock ejection.
If I'm ever on a starship and there's an enemy I have to dispatch, laser pistol to the head, followed by examination to confirm death, followed by airlock defenestration.
Just sayin'
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the human body cant withstand the vacuum of space. 3 reasons:
1. temperatures near absolute 0
2. no breathable air
3. such a drastic differance between pressure inside the body and outside in the vacuum
basically instant death
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the human body cant withstand the vacuum of space. 3 reasons:
1. temperatures near absolute 0
2. no breathable air
3. such a drastic differance between pressure inside the body and outside in the vacuum
basically instant death
So very, very wrong.
1. Space has no temperature. There's no air to carry heat away from your body. You'd only lose the little bit your body radiates.
3. One atmosphere of pressure difference is not drastic. The various tissues in the body hold up quite well in vacuum. Your eyes would dry out, but they wouldn't burst (at least not before you die of other causes).
2. No air means you'd suffocate. You'd have...oh, three to five minutes before you die.
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Also, who says the adversary is human. Data can survive hard vacuum, so can the borg.
If the decompressee is not human, who knows how long they could survive.
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the human body cant withstand the vacuum of space. 3 reasons:
1. temperatures near absolute 0
2. no breathable air
3. such a drastic differance between pressure inside the body and outside in the vacuum
basically instant death
So very, very wrong.
1. Space has no temperature. There's no air to carry heat away from your body. You'd only lose the little bit your body radiates.
3. One atmosphere of pressure difference is not drastic. The various tissues in the body hold up quite well in vacuum. Your eyes would dry out, but they wouldn't burst (at least not before you die of other causes).
2. No air means you'd suffocate. You'd have...oh, three to five minutes before you die.
fine we'll send you out into space with an airtank and see how long you last. im guessing instant death but if you dont think then so lets try it
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Oh you'd die, but it wouldn't be instant. Pressure can do real damage to the human body, but it takes time. this gives the victim a chance, however unlikely that they would be able to survive.
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i think that we can all agree that vacuums suck.
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Actually, the temperature in space is approimately 2-3 degrees kelvan, or 2-3 degrees above absolute 0 (that's around 270 below 0 Celsius). Of course, even this doesn't exist in a vacuum (pun intended). We also have to consider the effects of solar radiation.
The pressure is 1.322 × 10^-11 Pa, which is essentially 0.
The temperature in the sunlight is 120°C, which is higher than the boiling point of water. In the shade the temperature is about -100°C, way below the freezing point of water. The body tissue (skin, heart, other internal organs) would expand because of the boiling fluids. However, they would not "explode"as depicted in some science fiction movies, such as "Total Recall". Death would occur within one minute.
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
I think a certain hot tempered half Klingon Chief Engineer would object to that - Rather forcefully!!
she can "object" me all night long. I still want to screw Seven of Nine.
Enjoy your trip out the Airlock - Sans Pressure Suit.
I just wanted to be part of the quote chain...
Actually, the temperature in space is approimately 2-3 degrees kelvan, or 2-3 degrees above absolute 0 (that's around 270 below 0 Celsius). Of course, even this doesn't exist in a vacuum (pun intended). We also have to consider the effects of solar radiation.
The pressure is 1.322 × 10^-11 Pa, which is essentially 0.
The temperature in the sunlight is 120°C, which is higher than the boiling point of water. In the shade the temperature is about -100°C, way below the freezing point of water. The body tissue (skin, heart, other internal organs) would expand because of the boiling fluids. However, they would not "explode"as depicted in some science fiction movies, such as "Total Recall". Death would occur within one minute.
But not if you are away from said solar radiation, as depicted by Hitchhiker's Guide...
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Here's an article I found:
The question is, what happens to the human body in a vacuum?
No, the body won't blow up. Your blood won't boil, either.
There are a number of things about being in space, in a vacuum, which could cause harm to the human body. You wouldn't want to hold your breath. This would cause lung damage. You would probably remain conscious for several seconds, until the blood without oxygen reaches your brain.
It would be pretty darn cold, but the human body doesn't lose heat that fast, so you'd have a little time before you froze to death. It's possible you could have some problems with your eardrums, including a rupture, but maybe not. It would be worse if you had a cold, and were stuffy headed, with no way for the pressure to equalize.
You could get a bad sunburn, and you might actually swell some, but not to Arnold Schwarzenegger, "Total Recall" proportions. The "bends" are also possible, just like a diver who surfaces too quickly.
While your own normal blood pressure will keep your blood from boiling, the saliva in your mouth could very well begin to do so. In 1965, while performing tests at the NASA facility now known as Johnson Space Center a subject was accidentally exposed to a near vacuum (less than 1 psi) when his space suit leaked while in a vacuum chamber. He did not pass out for about 14 seconds, by which time unoxygenated blood had reached his brain. Technicians began to repressurize the chamber within 15 seconds and he regained consciousness at around the equivalent of 15,000 feet of altitude. He later said that his last conscious memory was of the water on his tongue beginning to boil.
The human body is amazingly resilient. The worst problem would be lack of oxygen, not lack of pressure in the vacuum. If returned to a normal atmosphere fairly quickly, you would survive with few if any irreversible injuries.
There have actually been cases of parts of astronauts bodies being exposed to vacuum, when suits were damaged. The results were negligible.
To be away from the effects of solar radiation, you'd have to be pretty far away from the sun; certainly much further than humans are capable of at present.
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getting back to the comic talk... i wish i had seen the sword fight that was quite obviously occurring before this scene
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Faye and Dora must have been repelling borders in today's comic.
Everyone knows what a haven Northampton is for Pirates :evil:
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haha hair says foof
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Yay, Worry Hat!
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the human body cant withstand the vacuum of space. 3 reasons:
1. temperatures near absolute 0
2. no breathable air
3. such a drastic differance between pressure inside the body and outside in the vacuum
basically instant death
Nope.
1. The temperature doesnt matter, since vaccum is the perfect isolation, meaning the body temperature itself will not lower very fast at all. In fact, the main problem is quite the opposite: thanks to the radiation from the sun the temperature of the body will *increase*. Compare the conditions on the moon, which has no atmosphere to speak of and therefore has between -150 and +150 degree celsius temperature, for night and day, respectively.
2. Thats a problem, yes, but its not *instant* death. You got 3 minutes, basically. See also the next paragraph, though.
3. Thats the only real issue which could cause instant death, except it doesnt. The body wont explode, it will just expand like a balloon. But the skin etc are strong enough to still keep the body together, despite the inner pressure. The main issue, in fact, will be loss of oxygen and water from the blood through the lungs, as they will fast evaporate into the vaccum.
All in all, you can survive for a short time in the vaccum of outer space. The 30 seconds estimate of Douglas Adams in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy is a good guess.
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Gina Riversmith doesn't exist in real life does she? I tried googling her, to no avail.
Ditto.
Maybe a plot with Sven and this mysterious country singer in the pipeline? Or Lydia moving in on her mentor?
Anyway, pretty cool strip today.
Although why the fuck is Dora carrying a sword? I mean I thought it wasn't Coffee of Doom with 'Doom' in the medieval whup-ass sense...
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Besides, what where Dora and Faye doing in today's strip ?!?
Dora is holding a sword and Faye is holding something which could be a quarterstaff ...
Did they fence for fun or what ?
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I have no witty comments. Pity really as I've been riotously amused by the RPG and Vacuum debates....
Just adding my thoughts that todays comic was yet again, awesome.
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HA! Lemon Singularity. :laugh:
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Besides, what where Dora and Faye doing in today's strip ?!?
Dora is holding a sword and Faye is holding something which could be a quarterstaff ...
Did they fence for fun or what ?
I had the same question. And is the CoD the best place for a duel?
And on a practical note, iwhy is Faye using a padded weapon while Dora has an actual blade? I'm not certain that that is an acceptable way to discipline an employee.
And now the Dora/Faye S&M fetishists are in full masturbatory frenzy, damn.
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In an earlier strip when Hannelore's mom came to visit, didn't Hanners use the shower in a hotel room? (I'm too lazy to look up the strip number, but I seem to remember something about a different pipe bursting and individually-wrapped soaps...) Wouldn't that be even worse than using a shower in someone's house / apartment?
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haven't heard Obama called Barry, that's.... interesting?
Apparently he went by Barry for the first part of his life and started going by his given name, Barack, in college. Wikipedia doesn't mention this -- it's not particularly important -- but I think I saw it in a Newsweek article a couple months ago.
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Where are her matching Worry Mittens? (http://twitter.com/hanneloreEC/status/1078137575)
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that broadsword has been there for a while. I'm surprised that the battle spatula wasn't brought out. wait, what if Raven took it!
Dum, dum DUMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
Dora would do terrible, terrible things to Hanners.
*200 fanfics were just written by someone on the internet.
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the actual cartoon involving hanners using the shower at the hotel was 921 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=921). and we first see the broadsword way back in 468 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468)
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In an earlier strip when Hannelore's mom came to visit, didn't Hanners use the shower in a hotel room? (I'm too lazy to look up the strip number, but I seem to remember something about a different pipe bursting and individually-wrapped soaps...) Wouldn't that be even worse than using a shower in someone's house / apartment?
Well, at most hotels they come by and wash the bathroom every day. Who knows how often someone washes their own?
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That's great news. All Faye has to do now is to testify as an eye-witness about those past events and thus Dora will demand Hannelore to explain herself. By the laws of logic and the consequences graphically displayed by Brian Clevinger (http://www.nuklearpower.com/daily.php?date=051011), Hannelore should go 'FOOM'.
Otherwise we could just start to make characters disappear and blame bipedal carnivorous dinosaurs... come ooon.
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And didn't Hanners use the shower in Marten and Faye's while she was living with them? Back when she was finding the problem in all those papers her mom sent?
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FOOM I say, FOOM!
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And didn't Hanners use the shower in Marten and Faye's while she was living with them? Back when she was finding the problem in all those papers her mom sent?
Maybe, but not after thoroughly cleaning/disinfecting/etc it.
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Yeah, I know, but surely she could disinfect Dora's, then, too?
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I think Faye just hit the hipster singularity with her Fever Ray tee. It has to be the first one in existence.
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I also say yay for the worry hat. I'm glad someone did the research on the sword, I was going to ask. Since we don't see the other end of it, I'm assuming that is the battle spatula Faye is holding. Poor Hanners is sick and on any number of meds, so inconsistencies with her memory might not be unexpected, but we can easily assume that she does not use other people's showers anymore.
If the time jump had not been pointed out to me I wouldn't have noticed. I just assumed that Dora had washed out some of the dye or re-dyed it or something. I know it's longer than it was, but I chalked that up to artistic license or her just having had it tucked back or something.
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Since we don't see the other end of it, I'm assuming that is the battle spatula Faye is holding.
Oooo...could this be the first sighting of the infamous Malaysian Battle Spatula? It never crossed my mind until you mentioned it but it's quite possible. I can see why Dora would need the sword.
#540 - Utensils of Doom (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=540) for those that want to read the strip again.
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To many jokes in one strip. From "Foof" to the title.
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Honestly the only thing I can see happening in tomorrow's strip is Hanners freaking out over toilets. Even if it seems to contradict earlier comics (see above posts).
Or she just carries around packages of seat covers. Hm.
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I love how Hanners' hair "Foofs" out after being matted down by her hat. So cute.
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your redirect still misses by 12 yards. unfortunately for us, we pass through the meteor's trail and all catch plague. critical hit.
Anyway, I place Murphy's Curse upon all attempts to destroy the earth until I'm done living on it. And I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I cast Despell. you die along with all the other humans.
I gain 10.9^89 EXP and Level up by 12267 Levels.
Loot pile is:
Corpse (x10 billion)
Plague
All the earths riches and money.
I Take earths riches and money.
You can only level up once per exp gain, no matter how obscenely large amounts of people you slaughtered.
This has been a public service announcement funded by lonely tabletop RPG nerds everywhere.
Fine...
[Seven of Nine voice]
Very well.
You are fined 100 Gold and one Defense Level Point.
[/Seven of Nine voice]
very well I except that fine, as long as I get a date with you , queen of the cyborgs.
I think a certain hot tempered half Klingon Chief Engineer would object to that - Rather forcefully!!
she can "object" me all night long. I still want to screw Seven of Nine.
Enjoy your trip out the Airlock - Sans Pressure Suit.
Yay that will be fun.
the human body cant withstand the vacuum of space. 3 reasons:
1. temperatures near absolute 0
2. no breathable air
3. such a drastic differance between pressure inside the body and outside in the vacuum
basically instant death
So very, very wrong.
1. Space has no temperature. There's no air to carry heat away from your body. You'd only lose the little bit your body radiates.
3. One atmosphere of pressure difference is not drastic. The various tissues in the body hold up quite well in vacuum. Your eyes would dry out, but they wouldn't burst (at least not before you die of other causes).
2. No air means you'd suffocate. You'd have...oh, three to five minutes before you die.
fine we'll send you out into space with an airtank and see how long you last. im guessing instant death but if you dont think then so lets try it
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Also, who says the adversary is human. Data can survive hard vacuum, so can the borg.
If the decompressee is not human, who knows how long they could survive.
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uhhh. guess what. you forgot to cast plague immunity prior to meteor strike. you catch plague.
I'm a high level non-human mage. My class and race are immune to human illness.
And human weakness, like decompression.
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So what ARE they wielding a sword and a stick for?
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Obviously they were fighting over Faye's latest quest for a pay raise.
She wants to double her salary, because she's just found out that she's pregnant.
And since the baby would be Dora's niece or nephew, she thought that she'd get it.
But nothing's that simple, so Dora insisted they duel for the raise.
Or maybe they were just passing the time.
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To many jokes in one strip. From "Foof" to the title.
Yeah the FOOF was a nice touch.
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So what ARE they wielding a sword and a stick for?
Defending against orcs, what else?
I can't wait until Dora's hair grows enough where she can cut it. Every time I look at her, I think, "Why did she dip her ends in ink?"
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I wonder if they're practicing so they can step in and help in this (http://flakypastry.runningwithpencils.com/comic.php?strip_id=227/) :D
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Obviously they were fighting over Faye's latest quest for a pay raise.
She wants to double her salary, because she's just found out that she's pregnant.
And since the baby would be Dora's niece or nephew, she thought that she'd get it.
But nothing's that simple, so Dora insisted they duel for the raise.
Or maybe they were just passing the time.
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.....You're alright, michi. :-D
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*bows*
Why thank you.
:)
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Logic and Hannelore do not go together it seems. :-D
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So what ARE they wielding a sword and a stick for?
Defending against orcs, what else?
I can't wait until Dora's hair grows enough where she can cut it. Every time I look at her, I think, "Why did she dip her ends in ink?"
Booo!
Also: Marten panel five face is EXCELLENT.
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I honestly missed the swort and staff of yesterday's comic till i read the forum. not im interested in wth is goin on, haha.
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im super excited for the early comic today. marten's eyes are the best. the small pupils are hilarious.
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So what ARE they wielding a sword and a stick for?
Defending against orcs, what else?
I was going to say they were battling for the one ring, but you beat me to it.
I sometimes forget to read the title of the comics, which stems from back when I was reading 15-20 a day to get through the archive, but I caught today's title before reading the rest of the comic and...Oh man! It is just so much funnier when you read the title first; that punchline hits harder and stays with you even longer. :lol:
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I hate when people say what Marten said. Um...dude, your GIRLFRIEND was interested in you while you were single, which is why you no longer are.
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Not to be a stickler or betray my nerdiness, but À la recherche du temps perdu is the title of Proust's compendium of volumes. The book Marten's holding is way too small to encompass all of the volumes in the series.
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Maybe it's in supersmallprint.
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Poor Martin.
Guy's always had girl problems, and now he can't keep the college girls away.
You know, it's probably a very good thing he and Faye DIDN'T start dating. Imagine how insane she'd be getting!
If he ever tells Dora how many times he gets hit on at work, she'd probably high-five him or something.
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:lol:
bwahahahaha, Marten's face and the poor girl's look of horrified humiliation, pure gold on Jeph's part.
As for the comic, it's funny because it's true!
People are always seem to be more interested when you're no longer available. It's like the get they nerve to tell you cause they figure you have a real excuse to reject them and not cause you aren't interested in them.
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Wow Marten's face in frame 2 of panel 4 is made of hilarity.
Also, Tai without glasses looks weird. Has Jeph done that before?
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Tai looks different....does she look less androgynous? She looks different, right?
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Does anyone else want this nameless-girl to come back? I like her, for whatever reason.
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She should date Steve!
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i think steve may be lying in a ditch somewhere
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Tai looks different....does she look less androgynous? She looks different, right?
Art style changes all the time. So yes, obviously, she looks different.
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i think steve may be lying in a ditch somewhere
Gosh, I hope not. I've got a bet on him being alive and eventually turning up again.
S
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i think steve may be lying in a ditch somewhere
Gosh, I hope not. I've got a bet on him being alive and eventually turning up again.
S
your betting money on a comic?
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Does anyone else want this nameless-girl to come back? I like her, for whatever reason.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. This girl -- let's call her...I dunno, Kiaya -- should return, for whatever reason. Maybe further pursuing Marten, maybe working at CoD...hell, I dunno. But more, Jeph, more! XD
...and I'm starting to sound like one of the Hanners fans :-P
...IDEA!
She and Hanners become like, best friends or something? I'm sure people would love that *giggles*
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Tai looks different....does she look less androgynous? She looks different, right?
Doesn't she usually have glasses?
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i think steve may be lying in a ditch somewhere
Gosh, I hope not. I've got a bet on him being alive and eventually turning up again.
S
your betting money on a comic?
You writing with green on gray color ?
Plus she said nothing about money, did she ? People can just bet to win the bet - no need for a prize.
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Is it possible for Marten to do anything without it being awkward? One thing I couldn't figure out is why Kiaya freaked out in panel 5. Mumbling something stupid and incoherent is standard when you get shot down, but she seemed absolutely shocked that he might be seeing someone already. And I do hope he doesn't relate this encounter to Dora verbatim. She would probably be none too pleased to find out they are "kind of" seeing each other.
I assume Tai is wearing contacts, although maybe her glasses fell off during a makeout session in the stacks.
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Yea Whatshername is acting majorly strange. All upfront when asking His Awkwardness of Discomfort out for a date but fleeing in shame and embarrassment when finding out he's taken. Oh well, some people might have been amused. >.>
Please do not mention Steve here. I don't want to see him hanging from the ceiling in a future comic.
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Yes, Tai is not wearing glasses. She also looks like her own person though! Remember Jeph was talking about trying to work on the female characters not looking like Faye clones anymore? I say he's done it cus Tai looks pretty awesome.
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Yeah, I'd say giving the characters their own look has come along a lot in the past few months, especially the female characters. I always look forward to how the comic is going to look in the future :-)
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Some other problems with a vacuum:
1) Water boils immediately. If your skin is damp, you'll lose a hell of a lot of heat that way.
2) You will still lose heat to radiation, but whether or not you're in sunlight will determine how quickly you die. Sunlight in space hits Earth at around 1000W/m².
3) The air in your lungs will REALLY want to escape - you might have a hell of a time holding in 14.7psi.
And my hair never FOOF!s when I take off a hat or hood. :cry:
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Eh Miss Cute Girl College Student was clearly working really hard at seeming all nonchalant and casual and then when Marten crushed her dreams of romance like the savage bastard that he is her facade of bravery crumbled like the ruins of her broken shattered heart.
Also someone should tell Martie that since he started dating a lady he also started WORKING AT AN ALL-WOMEN'S COLLEGE I MEAN GODDAMN MARTEN WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED?
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A really huge "...Awww!" at the "foof," yesturday, for one ^__^
And I think Tai looks kind of cool without glasses, but I prefer her with. Her glasses look really cool and give her more of a "library-ish" look.
Also, I WILL make an icon out of the Martenface xD
(And I totally get what Marten means - it happens to me, too O__o)
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I dunno. I guess when you are dating you are more relaxed and act more casual and laid back with girls so maybe that's why this happens.
-Plus yeah. He is working at an all girls college library now. That ups the odds quite a bit.
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Not to be a stickler or betray my nerdiness, but À la recherche du temps perdu is the title of Proust's compendium of volumes. The book Marten's holding is way too small to encompass all of the volumes in the series.
It's the expurgated version of A la recherche...
A really huge "...Awww!" at the "foof," yesturday, for one ^__^
And I think Tai looks kind of cool without glasses, but I prefer her with. Her glasses look really cool and give her more of a "library-ish" look.
Also, I WILL make an icon out of the Martenface xD
(And I totally get what Marten means - it happens to me, too O__o)
Agree on glasses make her look more... studious. Sans glasses, Tai looks more like the other girls rather than less, to me.
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A really huge "...Awww!" at the "foof," yesturday, for one ^__^
Yes <3 Hanners.
I think the girl who asked Martin out (or some other girl, who cares) should start stalking him! She eventually kidnaps Marten but Dora comes to the rescue and there is a climactic battle between her and Dora with Marten tied up in the background.
Or maybe not.
And holy crap I can't believe I didn't notice before that your avatar is from Spirited Away. Love that movie.
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Poor Marten, just as he gets settled in a decent relationship with a feisty Tiger like Dora, he starts working at an all girls College and gets hit on by a cute girl! Somedays you just can't win!!
Tai looks cuter without her glasses than with them, but she looks more intelligent with them.
I think the girl who asked Martin out (or some other girl, who cares) should start stalking him! She eventually kidnaps Marten but Dora comes to the rescue and there is a climactic battle between her and Dora with Marten tied up in the background.
Which would certainly be consistant with the sword practice in the previous comic. :D
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According to my information, women are attracted to men in a stable relationship because these men have already been "tested".
I doubt it has to do anything with pheromones, or with behavior. The knowledge that the man in question already has a stable commitment itself is what makes him more attractive to other women.
Some other problems with a vacuum:
1) Water boils immediately. If your skin is damp, you'll lose a hell of a lot of heat that way.
2) You will still lose heat to radiation, but whether or not you're in sunlight will determine how quickly you die. Sunlight in space hits Earth at around 1000W/m².
3) The air in your lungs will REALLY want to escape - you might have a hell of a time holding in 14.7psi.
Well, nope, your blood wont boil as such because your body is solid enough to keep the pressure up high enough.
If your blood really would boil as a whole, you would indeed explode, as one liter of water IIRC translates to 1,700 liters of steam.
And yes, you cannot just hold your breath in the vaccum.
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According to my information, women are attracted to men in a stable relationship because these men have already been "tested".
I doubt it has to do anything with pheromones, or with behavior. The knowledge that the man in question already has a stable commitment itself is what makes him more attractive to other women.
Yeah, but what about cases where the women don't know that the man is in a stable relationship?
Just pointing it out since it seems like mystery girl probably didn't know Marten was in a relationship.
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Just pointing it out since it seems like mystery girl probably didn't know Marten was in a relationship.
They can sense it, like how men can sense when tits are nearby.
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They can sense it, like how men can sense when tits are nearby.
Boobdar? :evil:
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They can sense it, like how men can sense when tits are nearby.
Boobdar? :evil:
Nope, "eyes".
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They can sense it, like how men can sense when tits are nearby.
Boobdar? :evil:
Nope, "eyes".
I don't know... I ain't heard o' no eyes.
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"Or Stop Showering"
Hurr? I don't mean to nitpick, but if Marten stopped showering, the pheromones would get stronger. ;)
Unless, y'know, Jeff meant it to mean that Marten would get stinky and girls would stop hitting on him. Then again, Raven would be on him in a flash, what with her attraction to men that smell like hobos. Or who are hobos.
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Is Jeph insinuating that The Stand is a bad read?
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Wiki'd The Stand because I've never read it--there's a possible correlation between the mention of this book and Hanner's flu. Maybe tomorrow Marten will be recounting the story to Dora, Hanners will overhear and ask what The Stand is about and then OCD all over the place about the end of the human race due to a superflu?
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Randomgirl overreacted because she looks like a freshman and is probably like the massive majority of college freshman females: overemotional, immature, and obsessed with Twilight. Let's kill her.
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Some other problems with a vacuum:
1) Water boils immediately. If your skin is damp, you'll lose a hell of a lot of heat that way.
2) You will still lose heat to radiation, but whether or not you're in sunlight will determine how quickly you die. Sunlight in space hits Earth at around 1000W/m².
3) The air in your lungs will REALLY want to escape - you might have a hell of a time holding in 14.7psi.
Well, nope, your blood wont boil as such because your body is solid enough to keep the pressure up high enough.
If your blood really would boil as a whole, you would indeed explode, as one liter of water IIRC translates to 1,700 liters of steam.
And yes, you cannot just hold your breath in the vaccum.
I know. I never said that your blood would boil off. I said that water will boil, and that if your skin was damp, that water's rapid evaporation would suck a lot of heat out of you very quickly.
However, some blood could perhaps boil:
If capillaries near the skin rupture due to the pressure differential, then the water in the exposed blood would indeed boil away.
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Actually, I wonder if, in the vacuum, the fact that heat exchanges are roughly limited to radiation, wouldn't make an excess of body heat a plausible issue (if the other problems somehow weren't important enough). After all, the main temperature problem space engineers face with inhabited space structures is not warming, but cooling.
Anyway about the comic: this reminds me of a conversation I read on a forum. A guy said that he found weird the number of girls who had tried to flirt with him since he was with his girlfriend. He said about a dozen in three months. His girlfriend, also on that forum (actually, they met through said forum), merrily told that it was only counting the ones he noticed, in fact there had been much more.
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Randomgirl overreacted because she looks like a freshman and is probably like the massive majority of college freshman females: overemotional, immature, and obsessed with Twilight. Let's kill her.
As a college freshman female, I resent that! :-P
I kind of sympathize with her too. She finally works up the courage to ask the cutie at the library desk out, only to find out he's taken. How mortifying.
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And then she tells her troubles to his sword-swingin' girlfriend. Sometimes bad days only get worse.
So Dora's not as relaxed about competition as some have predicted. Which is consistant, I'd say.
Love Dora's expression in the last panel. And I'm sure it's really Faye's turn to mop up the gore. Slacker.
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Two brownies is nowhere near enough to compensate for that.
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hahaha dora rules.
i need to find me one of those psychotic sword wielding female companions. partially because i assume thats the only type of person who would tolerate a mentally insane warhammer carrying male.
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Oh my goodness. A momentary glimpse of Dora's face in the last panel was enough to make me have to minimize the window and laugh so loudly my neighbors came and knocked on my door.
And speaking of the relationship pheromone, I can attest to its potency. Gentlemen, beware its effects less your ego become over-inflated. The girls that currently seem interested in you will be awfully scarce once your own girl is gone.
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i think jeph is having fun drawing tiny pupils
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lol yes! I knew she'd be back. I have a feeling this is gonna be a great arc ;)
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So she ordered the special. Most unwise.
Bloodlusty female + broadsword = daymn
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i think jeph is having fun drawing tiny pupils
I came here to say exactly the same thing!
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Unless it's the complete opposite of a guy asking a girl out (and it is, but you know what I mean), I can't see Dora's logic. I'd think asking one out is a good way to find out if a person is available. If they say "no, I'm taken," then you know, well...they're taken. And you don't have to feel bad about rejection because there's no way you can blame yourself for that.
Unless you try really hard. In which case, well, you have a whole different problem.
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C'mon Mart m'boy. Cheat! Take the freshmen for all her body's worth. Then maybe a round or six with your boss.
If you get caught, blame Hanners for giving you a fever that scrambled your brain.
Even if you're still dumped, hanners will feel so guilty, you'll have a fourth girl in only a couple days! mwahahaha!
Or, y'know, just comment on the strange situation that any guy who's ever had a relationship has commented on before you.
Personally, I think girls have their own floating server, with every boy on earth listed. The moment you date one, you flag their profile on this server. And any girl who feels like messing with you, can do so.
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I feel bad for this,as of yet,unnamed girl.
I myself have never suffered something like that,but day after day i've seen it happen,and it aint pretty.
I hope Dora doesnt kill her,she could be a new main charactor.
Or maybe not.
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I hope Dora doesnt kill her,she could be a new main charactor.
I think she would make a good main character. Like I mentioned before, I'm not sure why I like her, I just do.
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Unless it's the complete opposite of a guy asking a girl out (and it is, but you know what I mean), I can't see Dora's logic. I'd think asking one out is a good way to find out if a person is available. If they say "no, I'm taken," then you know, well...they're taken. And you don't have to feel bad about rejection because there's no way you can blame yourself for that.
Dora's logic is that, if you're going to be embarrassed to find out they're already dating someone... find out BEFORE asking and save yourself the trouble.
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I agree,there is something about this young lady that i like.
Kinda reminds me of Penny,mostly the hair though.
OMG MAYBE SHE IS PIZZA GIRL!
Hahaha i doubt it.
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This week has been amazing. Keep up the good work Jeph.
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I think girls have their own floating server, with every boy on earth listed. The moment you date one, you flag their profile on this server.
I was gonna call you out for being a total dick in your first paragraph, albeit a witty one. But then your second comment was so dang accurate!!!
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Poor girl. She came in for an Extra Large Vanilla Latte with extra whipped cream and two brownies and instead she got the special.
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My only ponderment is this: How in the flippin' world has Dora hidden that sword so well up till now that Faye has never had a chance to use it. That girl would rape a monk and hold your first born hostage for a minute with that thing. And we all know Dora must have had it around CoD for a while considering the other awesome battle utensils she has stored around the place.
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Actually, Faye already used it in this (http://"http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468") strip.
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I actually feel sorry for the little frosh... Embarrassed and evicerated in the same day. Poor thing - hope someone at least gives her a nice eugoogooly.
(Yes, it was an intentional Zoolander reference).
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And then she tells her troubles to his sword-swingin' girlfriend. Sometimes bad days only get worse.
So Dora's not as relaxed about competition as some have predicted. Which is consistant, I'd say.
Love Dora's expression in the last panel. And I'm sure it's really Faye's turn to mop up the gore. Slacker.
Her expression is classic...and a perfect 20 roll on her INTIMIDATION.
It just reminds me of an expression from BERSERK- the anime...but instead of Guts (Gatsu) it's Dora, with a smaller sword.
Though if that sword isn't sharp- and it probably isn't, it'll make a similarly nasty bloody mess.
Regardless of my mixed fandom, this was a SUPERB set up for a sight gag/awkwardly hilarious social situation.
Way to go Jeph.
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Jan 22.
I think Dora's heaving the sword up on the counter (after, yes, spar practicing with Faye) and getting the Guts blood-spilling look of doom just adds to the store's fabled ambiance...
"Coffee of Doom! Come for the Coffee stay for the Carnage!"
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I just wanna say the last panel is simultaneously the funniest and hottest thing I've seen this week.
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Actually, Faye already used it in this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468") strip.
Oh wow. How did I miss that one?
I feel like such an uninitiated noob now. :cry:
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Man, Dora's expression in the last panel was downright psychotic. Imagine going in to get some coffee and seeing a barista with a whacking great claymore and that look on their face...
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Imagine going in to get some coffee and seeing a barista with a whacking great claymore and that look on their face...
OMG so hot. Marten officially has the awesomest girlfriend in the history of ever. :wink:
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The last panel of today's strip is the best QC panel EVER.
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agreed. The facial expressions, the dialog...everything was perfect.
Poor girl, shattered ego, and shattered innards, life is NOT good today.
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Am I the only one that thinks the sword looks a bit small for a proper broadsword? Your typical broadsword (also sometimes called greatswords, longswords, or my personal favourite, bastard swords) has a blade 3 feet long minimum, compared to the ~2-2.5 foot CoD sword.
Other than that minor thing, I loved the comic. Dora's expression in the last panel reminded me of the song "Crazy Bitch" by Buck Cherry. Which is good for Martin at least. :wink:
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The last panel is funny, but I don't exactly get Dora's expression. Is she really pissed at this girl for asking out a random dude? (which, I don't know why I ask that so incredulously, this is psycho Dora we're talking about) Or is she just intimidating for fun? Or perhaps she's just excited to rub it in her face that she's screwing Marten? (why the sword, then?) The expression is very anime-ish, very funny, but not very clear.
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her broadsword got whittled down due to the number of dented tabled in the past.
*Thunk!*
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The last panel is funny, but I don't exactly get Dora's expression. Is she really pissed at this girl for asking out a random dude? (which, I don't know why I ask that so incredulously, this is psycho Dora we're talking about) Or is she just intimidating for fun? Or perhaps she's just excited to rub it in her face that she's screwing Marten? (why the sword, then?) The expression is very anime-ish, very funny, but not very clear.
all of the above...and more.
Its essentially "Bwahahahahaha! He's mine! you want him but you can't have him!"
I see Jeph has really gotten into using the eyes more expressively. Hope to see more in the future.
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The last panel is funny, but I don't exactly get Dora's expression. Is she really pissed at this girl for asking out a random dude? (which, I don't know why I ask that so incredulously, this is psycho Dora we're talking about) Or is she just intimidating for fun? Or perhaps she's just excited to rub it in her face that she's screwing Marten? (why the sword, then?) The expression is very anime-ish, very funny, but not very clear.
That's half the fun wondering if she's joking or not. ;P
regardless, that panel is pure concentrated awesome, someone please hand over an internet to Mr. Jacques.
THUNK is the new BONK
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for friggin real! Thunk speaks so many things, but requires only on language.
and the hair makes her look absolutely insane!
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Badass.
Kinda feel sorry for the redhead, though. This really isn't her day.
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I rarely comment here, but that last panel is why Dora's my favourite character. :D
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Dora's expression scares me....
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Question: If faye had hooked up with matin, how would this senario have played out?
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DORA IS THE SHIT! :-D
She's insane, its entirely amazing.
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OMG BLOODLUST DORA IS TEH HAWTZ.
Sweet Tits Lite is gon' git it.
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Question: If faye had hooked up with matin, how would this senario have played out?
Faye would open her mouth.
Asian Giant Hornets would come out.
Unnamed Woman... she wouldn't make it.
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Or the snakes would peek out from under her wig and Whatshername'd turn into stone.
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LMFAO @ this comic.
And, poor Unnamed Redhead. Although, I don't think Dora's entirely being serious here.
(If Marten were with Faye, and this happened, though... Faye would have been serious. :eek:)
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Of course, Dora (with Faye's approval) has a history of killing girls who are interested in Marten: 547 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=547).
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LOL "Its Penny's turn to clean up the blood." LOL
Am I the only one that thinks the sword looks a bit small for a proper broadsword? [...]
According to Wikikpedia, the term "broadsword" can reference a couple of very different types of swords, i.e. its not clearly defined in the first place, even for experts.
Even less for people who arent experts. For them it just means "big sword that can easily cut of one of your limbs", probably.
I would call what Dora is wielding there is a short sword.
Actually, I wonder if, in the vacuum, the fact that heat exchanges are roughly limited to radiation, wouldn't make an excess of body heat a plausible issue (if the other problems somehow weren't important enough).
Actually thats a good question.
Though I would persume it wouldnt be much of a problem unless you would really work a lot.
Polar bears cannot run for a longer time, because their fur offers near perfect heat isolation; continuing to run would result therefore in them overheating and dying from it.
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Is Jeph insinuating that The Stand is a bad read?
I took that to regard the 1000+ pages that make up the novel. My uncut version is definitely in the 1100 range.
Today's comic was just hilarious and an example of why I love reading this comic. It was nice to see Dora finally begin to show some protectiveness over Marten since she had seemed rather "blah" about any other time he had some kind of interaction with other girls. That sword was utterly brilliant and Faye's line is sample of why she is my favorite character.
I hope this chick stays around for a bit because I was wanting to see a new story arc develop sooner rather than later and she seems like the perfect way to begin one.
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Have we seen the sword before?
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This was answered on the previous page of this thread: 468 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468).
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I have a feeling that this girl is going to become a recurrent character.
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If I was Martin, and I was surreptitiously viewing this exchange, I would be unable to stop myself from dragging Dora into the back room for sex immediately.
Psychotically protective jealously is very unhealthy, but very, very hot.
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that poor smif girl, she's not having a good day.
marten's a lucky little shit.
having a girlfriend who looks like a punkrock elf and draws swords at the competition seems like it would be a pretty sweet deal.
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I must say, Dora must be one STRONG barrista if she can lift a broadsword up like that with one hand.
From what I've heard, those things are very heavy. Or maybe it's just the DoraRage that's somehow infused her being with super strength.
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I have a feeling that this girl is going to become a recurrent character.
Perhaps she starts scheming, thinking "Cute library guy's girlfriend's a complete psycho... must rescue..."
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Asking someone out and then finding out that they're already taken isn't all that embarrassing, IMO. Discussing it with a person who turns out to be their significant other---now THAT's embarrassing.
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For some reason, today's strip reminds me of Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni.
One seemingly normal guy who's surrounded by lots of beautiful girls, who are both sweet and charming and psychotically murderous.
... good times for Marten. Now he just needs to start carrying a weapon of his own around for defense.
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For some reason, today's strip reminds me of 50% of the entire anime content of Japan
One seemingly normal guy who's surrounded by lots of beautiful girls, who are both sweet and charming and psychotically murderous.
Fixed.
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Poor Kaiya, just can't catch a break.
I found Dora's reaction to be rather extreme for this situation. If Kaiya had indicated she was going to pursue Marten regardless, I could see it, but I couldn't really figure out what Dora was reacting to that justified the broadsword. This is especially striking when compared to their recent encounter with Hannelore in various states of undress. Of course, she does have her insecurities about their relationship and is prone to massive mood swings, so it's not entirely out of character.
And add me to the club for new readers who have to remind themsleves to read the strip title after having devoured the QC archive.
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But the Williston Stacks are at Mount Holyoke, not Smith...
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OH MY GOODNESS!
In strip 1321, two days ago, notice Dora is holding her broadsword, and Faye has the mop. That's why it's Penny's turn to clean up the mess.
Very subtle, Jeff.
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It's amazing how Dora goes from sympathizing to rubbing it in and threatening dismemberment to boot, yet I'm still on her side simply because that crazed look in her eyes is friggin' awesome. Schadenfreude FTW.
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I love how the Broadsword was introduced way back and still makes appearances.
Other comics would have used it for a one time joke then never referenced it again.
This is why I love QC.
Hurray Beheadings!
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I don't think it was an overreaction. It was distinguishing territory and very bluntly stating that it was not to be encroached upon from some strumpety slip of a thing from an uppity college nearby. Begone, small girl!
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Poor Kaiya, just can't catch a break.
I found Dora's reaction to be rather extreme for this situation. If Kaiya had indicated she was going to pursue Marten regardless, I could see it, but I couldn't really figure out what Dora was reacting to that justified the broadsword. This is especially striking when compared to their recent encounter with Hannelore in various states of undress. Of course, she does have her insecurities about their relationship and is prone to massive mood swings, so it's not entirely out of character.
And add me to the club for new readers who have to remind themsleves to read the strip title after having devoured the QC archive.
I pretty much agree. I think it was clear the girl was not going to persue Martin at all (hence why she ordered what she did and said she was upset), but then again its in character really for Dora to over react (although rather humorously) to this type of situation.
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I must say, Dora must be one STRONG barrista if she can lift a broadsword up like that with one hand.
From what I've heard, those things are very heavy. Or maybe it's just the DoraRage that's somehow infused her being with super strength.
According to Dungeons and Dragons, a longsword only weighs 4 pounds.
By that logic, I'm sure a broadsword wouldn't weigh more than 10 pounds.
Oh, and also: HOLY CRAP! I haven't laughed at a comic like that in a long time. Dora's expression is... magnificent. This was the best QC comic for laugh factor in at least a few months. Yey!
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I dunno. Dora doesn't seem genuinely pissed or actually ready to fight to the death for Martin. Though I'm sure she was.
Her sadistic side is showing, imo. Wants to further the pain.
Poor girl. May she eventually get over the trauma of this day - which might never happen if she does become a regular character, considering the amount of trauma they inflict on each other.
(Though, I personally think she should be the one to drag Steve out from whatever rock he's crawled under.)
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Bahahaha! xD It would be even better if Penny came and said "Dora, please, that's the second customer you brutally dismembered this morning."
This week is a very very good week. :D
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The difference between Dora's treatment of Marten seeing Hanners boob (and Tai's nether regions,) and Dora's treatment of unnamed-Smif-student is that she knows Marten really was mortified by those things, and it wasn't Hanners or Tai coming onto him. Unnamed-Smif-student was actually making a move.
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Question: If faye had hooked up with matin, how would this senario have played out?
With direct, painful, purposeful violence, not nearly as playfully insinuated as Dora's delicious response.
Armed women excite me. Especially COMPETENT, armed women.
And you already KNOW how I feel about crazies...
(If Marten were with Faye, and this happened, though... Faye would have been serious. shocked)
Agreed.
I would call what Dora is wielding there is a short sword.
Again, agreed.
Psychotically protective jealously is very unhealthy, but very, very hot.
Mmmmhmmmm....
One seemingly normal guy who's surrounded by lots of beautiful girls, who are both sweet and charming and psychotically murderous.
Sounds like Davan from Something Positive.
(Though, I personally think she should be the one to drag Steve out from whatever rock he's crawled under.)
Ooh! Ooh! That would be t3h 4w3ssum!
Er...I mean...*ahem*
I mean, hooray. Then I'd win my bet.
i think steve may be lying in a ditch somewhere
Gosh, I hope not. I've got a bet on him being alive and eventually turning up again.
S
your betting money on a comic?
You writing with green on gray color ?
Plus she said nothing about money, did she ? People can just bet to win the bet - no need for a prize.
First: Yes, I made a bet.
Second: No, I did not bet money.
Third: It's none of your business WHAT I bet.
Fourth: Green on gray is difficult to read.
Fifth: I am not female. At least, not last time I checked.
Sixth: I couldn't resist adding to the quote tunnel.
Bottom Line:
Liked today's comic. Love armed women, especially ones that would be psychotically protective of me. Thus, Dora is t3h h4wt!
I hope Steve returns, both because I like him and becuase my bet rides on it.
I enjoy the possibility of a story arc including as-yet-nameless-redhead and Steve hooking up for something steamy.
That is all.
S
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According to Dungeons and Dragons, a longsword only weighs 4 pounds.
By that logic, I'm sure a broadsword wouldn't weigh more than 10 pounds.
The D&D figures are inflated to begin with, actually. Swords are lighter than you'd think, since you had to be able to swing them fast and repeatedly for a long time, and anything weighing as much as 10 pounds was useless except as a parade piece.
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Am I the only one that thinks the sword looks a bit small for a proper broadsword? Your typical broadsword (also sometimes called greatswords, longswords, or my personal favourite, bastard swords) has a blade 3 feet long minimum, compared to the ~2-2.5 foot CoD sword.
<Bad E.G. Robinson impression> It's a broadsword because a gal's wieldin' it, see? Broad — Sword, get it? Yeah.
Anyway, as has already been said, broadsword is only an exact term in D&D (and even then, I think that's only meant to be a mechanics thing). In reality, as my copy of the Encyclopedia of Arms and Weapons states, it's a generic label. OTOH, it's definitely not a Claymore Dora's wielding.
And Rocketman, you're right on (this time, anyway :-D). I've always thought Japan's population must contain significantly more females than males. Maybe it was like that when some of the people who wrote Anime were growing up, anyway (the War and all). At any rate, to judge by the Animé's, if Jan 'n Dean had been Japanese, they would have sung "Four girls for every boy."
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If Dora's reaction was anything other then a joke (and an absolutely hilarious one at that), then she would be insane.
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I disagree with the person above that said the psychotic jealousy is hot. I feel sorry for the girl-she summoned the strength to ask someone out and now she's getting nothing but crap for it. She got shot down, tries to remedy it with some unhealthy baked goods and high calorie coffee, explains her situation... and oh crap, she's talking to the very girl that the cute boy is dating. Seriously, Jeph loves to torture the characters he creates. I personally would like to see more of her, and I would additionally like to see something good happen for her.
Oh and in all honesty, if Dora is serious with that broadsword and her murderous intentions then she is a bitch and I will hate her. I happen to also agree with the other person that said she's being too extreme and is overreacting.
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Yeah, my take is that Dora just couldn't pass up the delicious opportunity for the joke. If the poor girl succeeds in not puddling on the floor (which WOULD result in Faye using that staff) and running away, I bet Dora would even give her one of those brownies on the house for being a good sport.
And yes, real broadswords are in the 4 lb range, it's more of a spring steel sheet than a stainless steel bar.
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This was hilarious. Truly hilarious. That's all.
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How about instead of trying to guess if the sword is a shortsword, or a broadsword, or a claymore, gladius, longsword, etc... we either:
a) Name it. A good, strong, awesome name indicative of its purpose, like BitchCleaver or something, or...
b)Just leave it at sword. It is a sword, What type of sword? A swordy sword.
Fighter would be proud.
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<Bad E.G. Robinson impression> It's a broadsword because a gal's wieldin' it, see? Broad — Sword, get it? Yeah.
That's like the one about how to distinguish between a fort and a fortress: The presence of breastworks.
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I must say, Dora must be one STRONG barrista if she can lift a broadsword up like that with one hand.
From what I've heard, those things are very heavy. Or maybe it's just the DoraRage that's somehow infused her being with super strength.
broadswords are SUPER FUCKING heavy. I own 5 of them.
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[too lazy to quote all the people who said they hope she's a new character -- and whoever gave her a "real" name and insists on calling her that]
My god, I so hope she's just a one-off two-off character, and not a regular character. That would be way way way too many of the main characters coming into the strip with romantic interest in Marten. Just no. Just no.
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People actually think Dora's being serious in this strip with the jealousy - i'm sure as hell hoping she's just tormenting the girl for fun or i'll dislike Dora's brand of insecurity and psychosis even more.
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How about instead of trying to guess if the sword is a shortsword, or a broadsword, or a claymore, gladius, longsword, etc... we either:
a) Name it. A good, strong, awesome name indicative of its purpose, like BitchCleaver or something, or...
b)Just leave it at sword. It is a sword, What type of sword? A swordy sword.
Fighter would be proud.
It is named the "Anti-robbery broadsword". (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468)
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Is it me, or is Dora getting more anime-stylee? I mean, p4 in todays comic, she looks like she's gonna lose her eyes
And the hair?!
Joe
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From: http://www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm
"For example, the lengthy catalog of swords from the famed Wallace Collection Museum in London readily lists dozens of fine specimens among which it is difficult to find any weighing in excess of 4 pounds. Indeed, the majority of specimens, from arming swords to two-handers to rapiers, weigh much less than three pounds."
The replica market very rarely actually creates swords of true weapon caliber, even when they're "edged".
On the other hand, that makes it more likely that what Dora has is one of these overweight replicas, but I prefer to think of her as somebody who appreciates authentic. :wink: And considering how freakin' sharp the spring steel broadsword a friend let me handle was, I finally believe that it is possible to cut somebody in half with a sword. That would make a fine anti-robbery implement in any girl's arsenal.
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OH MY GOODNESS!
In strip 1321, two days ago, notice Dora is holding her broadsword, and Faye has the mop. That's why it's Penny's turn to clean up the mess.
Very subtle, Jeff.
Looks more like padding applied to a broomhandle for use as a practice spear/lance to me.
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Heaviness is relative. A sword that weighs three or four pounds is easily light enough for any normal person to lift it with one hand; but if you start swinging it repeatedly you'll quickly find that three or four pounds is a lot heavier than you thought it was.
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i think its funny that everyones digging on dora right now, but as soon as the next cartoon with hanners comes out everyones gonna forget about dora
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I don't feel like looking it up to quote, but somehow if Faye and Marten had gotten together, I think Faye would've been a tad more *relaxed* in this situation.
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I bet that Redhead wishes she'd stayed in in bed now.
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I disagree with the person above that said the psychotic jealousy is hot. I feel sorry for the girl-she summoned the strength to ask someone out and now she's getting nothing but crap for it. She got shot down, tries to remedy it with some unhealthy baked goods and high calorie coffee, explains her situation... and oh crap, she's talking to the very girl that the cute boy is dating. Seriously, Jeph loves to torture the characters he creates. I personally would like to see more of her, and I would additionally like to see something good happen for her.
Oh and in all honesty, if Dora is serious with that broadsword and her murderous intentions then she is a bitch and I will hate her. I happen to also agree with the other person that said she's being too extreme and is overreacting.
lmfao.
Comedy is just tragedy revisited.
Also it should be obvious Dora is joking. Albeit the poor girl isn't going to think so, and she's going to have the crap scared out of her. Tomorrow is probably going to be a comic where Dora apologizes to the poor thing.
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People actually think Dora's being serious in this strip with the jealousy - i'm sure as hell hoping she's just tormenting the girl for fun or i'll dislike Dora's brand of insecurity and psychosis even more.
I'm sure she's just fucking around. Faye does it all the time, why shouldn't she? :p
But if not, she's turning into a yandere and... it would actually be interesting to see where that would go.
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I bet that Redhead wishes she'd stayed in in ben now.
Ben or Todd or Phillip or in any other place the the cutie Indie boys library, or crazy GFs coffee shop
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I'm pretty sure Dora is just messing around with her, and i'm hoping maybe marten can somehow get a threesome out of this.
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You're not living vicariously through a webcomic character, are you?
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I don't want the new girl to stick around. Why? She's outside the mainstream age-range.
Everyone in the comic is in their later 20's, and the one former main character (Steve's ex, whatsherface) was effectively omitted for being unable to cope with maturity. Despite the immature actions or oddities that Faye, Dora, and Raven sometimes bring (yeah, I said Faye...anyone with that much angst without proper ways to channel it has much to learn and room to grow-up, and Dora, though she has some issues with relationship paranoia, at least runs and owns a profitable business...), these characters ARE mature. Even Hanners can live it up on her own, and is old enough to be over the immature-college age range.
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I don't want the new girl to stick around. Why? She's outside the mainstream age-range.
Everyone in the comic is in their later 20's, and the one former main character (Steve's ex, whatsherface) was effectively omitted for being unable to cope with maturity. Despite the immature actions or oddities that Faye, Dora, and Raven sometimes bring (yeah, I said Faye...anyone with that much angst without proper ways to channel it has much to learn and room to grow-up, and Dora, though she has some issues with relationship paranoia, at least runs and owns a profitable business...), these characters ARE mature. Even Hanners can live it up on her own, and is old enough to be over the immature-college age range.
I couldn't have said it better myself. I think adding a college girl would turn this into something of ABC Family... Like that stupid show, Greek
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Fighter would be proud.
Swordity!
I bet that Redhead wishes she'd stayed in in ben now.
Depending on how much Ben liked it, I bet he does, too.
You're not living vicariously through a webcomic character, are you?
No.
Unfortunately.
Dammit.
I don't want the new girl to stick around. Why? She's outside the mainstream age-range.
Well...Steve does like 'em YOUNG...
And that's all I have to say about that.
For now.
S
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Mainstream age range? What's wrong with a little diversity? Sure, the younger, less mature characters may get a tad annoying if they're permanent, but that just gives Faye yet another reason to be snarky/bitchy. And if Dora kills Kiaya, she and Hanners won't become friends (and yes, I'm still hoping for this :-P )
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Also, for the late 20's stuff... um, Hanners? She's 22.
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One.
I maintain that keeping this girl around for a little more, ESPECIALLY as a potential new lady-love for Steve, if he's not still with Meena (I think that was her name? Seem to have forgotten her, mostly...) since even though Ellen was a little ... odd, she was good for him. Whereas Meena has him constantly freaking out.
Two.
Mainstream age range?
Okay. Yes, the MAIN main characters are older (I don't know if I would say late twenties, though...), but what about Tai? She's a main character, if not in the little CoD circle of people, and while, yeah, Randomly Unfortunate Freshman Female (hey, if you can call Kiaya, I can call her Ruff) is a little younger than Tai, she could still be a plausible and interesting addition for a longer arc than just the day's torture victim.
And isn't that Greek show about a bunch of frat boys or whatever? Okay, no. QC will NEVER turn into that. With Marten working at the all-girl COLLEGE library, though, you've got to expect some college girls to show up, and a couple maybe to become a regular appearance, if for five strips or thirty.
Curiously -- exactly how old is Raven? I don't know if it's just her personality/attitude, but she's always seemed much younger than Dora, even if they were in the same 'coven' or whatever, before.
Three.
It's a swoooooord.
As in, big sharp thing that looks like it belongs in a Final Fantasy or D&D or any other related game. Who cares how heavy, how big, how Dora got it up there like that, what's it called? It's a sword, and it gives Dora that wicked awesome I'm-going-to-slaughter-you gleam in her eyes.
I vote we just call it awesome, leave it at that, and marvel at the amazing women of QC. Especially Dora who can wield a sword like that with such ease, and Faye who can see her best friend about to behead a college freshman and just pass off the post-murder clean up to Penelope.
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Yes, yes, alright - I made a typo.
*Mutters imprications about Typo Nazi's*
It's corrected now . . . .Happy??!
:-P
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Actually, Faye already used it in this (http://"http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=468") strip.
WHOA! How'd I forget?! Jeph is a Genius! That's some long set up! (Dora pulls it from right under the counter, where it always was!)
(btw, I think I fixed your hyperlink in the quote)
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yessssssss
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Yes, yes, alright - I made a typo.
*Mutters imprications about Typo Nazi's*
It's corrected now . . . .Happy??!
:-P
I thnk you mean imprecations.....
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Yes, yes, alright - I made a typo.
*Mutters imprications about Typo Nazi's*
It's corrected now . . . .Happy??!
:-P
I thnk you mean imprecations.....
I think you misspelled think! ;)
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i really have to say: jeph has been doing a good job with character expressiveness lately...
or is it just me?
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Yes, yes, alright - I made a typo.
*Mutters imprications about Typo Nazi's*
It's corrected now . . . .Happy??!
:-P
I thnk you mean imprecations.....
I think you misspelled think! ;)
ROFLMAO
Thank you ecstaticjoy - I needed that.
Cheers
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That poor girl!!
Jeph that was super mean!
What a bad day she must be having.
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I was going to post a note to Jeph, but then realized that I could run my message through 10 shredders and it would be more likely for Jeph to read it.
Seriously, people. This thread sucks. Before you post, think "Would people care at all about this post?"
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Man! Marten's a bitch!
No, wait! Dora's a jerk!
Oooooh, I can't decide! :wink:
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Marten's a Dora! Bitch is a jerk!
...my head hurts.
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Um...what the hell ass balls?
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Dora's certainly ACTING like a bitch.
Also, Thanks Jeph. Glad to know you think so much of us. :-P
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Aw, you're welcome Kugai <3
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I'm actually thinking that Marten was completely innocent, Dora is just overreacting.
Preeeeeeety sure that it'll blow over in a day or two and Dora will be all apologetic and then they'll have hot, passionate make up sex.
That is the way these things usually go....
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It would be stupid of Dora to blame Marten for it, since she already knows he turned *Kaiya down. Most likely Marten just brushed it off as ordinary weirdness... I mean, I can understand Dora's reaction, but it's still overreacting.
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Well, to stay off the fence, BOTH Marten and Dora are both jerks and bitches!
Stay friends, people... stay friends.
"Warning - while you were reading 5 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post." Wow...
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It would be stupid of Dora to blame Marten for it, since she already knows he turned *Kaiya down. Most likely Marten just brushed it off as ordinary weirdness... I mean, I can understand Dora's reaction, but it's still overreacting.
I agree. On the scale of other examples of weirdness in their little circle, a random date request is pretty well below the radar.
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Nobody cares about your posts. But everyone cares about my post saying that nobody cares about your posts.
:roll:
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Um...what the hell ass balls?
I've never actually seen "hell ass balls" anywhere else but this comic... or am I just not in the know? If it is just specific to this comic, it's good to see you're making use of the lingo. :-P
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Cue completely idiotic "Dora\'s a bitch!" "No, Marten\'s a jerk!" debate on the comic discussion boards.
Y'know, when I see comments like this from the author I wonder what kind of comments he really expects on these boards. Does he just want people discussing the art? LOL'ing at the jokes? Talking about Faye's Boobs? What? (Of course we already do all that and then some) I just don't understand how he can have his characters behave in certain ways and NOT have people talk about it.
I would be LOVING the discussions here if this were my comic, even if I didn't always agree with all of them. But whatever-the art was great as usual today.
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I think Jeph was joking.
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May I be the first to say that I look forward to the ensuing arc about Dora's insecurity? After all, who doesn't enjoy listening to someone whine about how...
*blink-blink*
Oh, so this is what it feels like before going on a Penny-Rant. I feel slightly enlightened.
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From: http://www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm
"For example, the lengthy catalog of swords from the famed Wallace Collection Museum in London readily lists dozens of fine specimens among which it is difficult to find any weighing in excess of 4 pounds. Indeed, the majority of specimens, from arming swords to two-handers to rapiers, weigh much less than three pounds."
The replica market very rarely actually creates swords of true weapon caliber, even when they're "edged".
On the other hand, that makes it more likely that what Dora has is one of these overweight replicas, but I prefer to think of her as somebody who appreciates authentic. :wink: And considering how freakin' sharp the spring steel broadsword a friend let me handle was, I finally believe that it is possible to cut somebody in half with a sword. That would make a fine anti-robbery implement in any girl's arsenal.
Mine are stone cored with smithed iron outer layers. there heaver than normal.
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wow, dora's being kind of overreactive. very overreactive actually. i mean she already knows he said no to Random College Girl (I am not good at names okay people?) so what's the big deal?
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I know, right? It's like, now she's going to blame Marten for other people's actions?
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did no one pay attention to faye? hahahaha what a slacker!
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I remember I used to like Dora. Hell, the morning of the Marten-Dora-first-kiss comic I left my house extremely happy. Sadly, the only thing I enjoy about her these days is her hair.
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What I like is that if it's now raven's turn to clean up the blood then penny's turn is apparently over. meaning dora might have actually hurt Random College Girl (It'll be confusing if more college girls show up. then it'll be all Random College Girl 1 talked to Random College Girl 4 about how Random College Girl 2 doesn't like Random College Girl 3.)
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Dora's a bitch!
(I hate to disappoint the creator.)
(Also: she really is a bit of a bitch.)
(And her hair is not good.)
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Dora is overreacting.
I fear Martin wont get any tonight.
Also this new girl should be Hanners friend,they seem like a nice pair.
OH god what have i said! What i ment was that they would be a nice pair of Friends,Not crazed lesbians.
Got i hope Dora doesnt just go and kill everyone,also where the hell is Raven? Shouldnt she be working?
I dont think Dora is a bitch,just shes a little...umm....uhhh.....hmmm.....a little...something i dont know but shes not a bitch.
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Dora's a bitch!
(I hate to disappoint the creator.)
(Also: she really is a bit of a bitch.)
(And her hair is not good.)
didnt your mother ever tell you that if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything? or stop running in and out, pick one and stay there? or dont eat those cookies youll spoil your supper?
....sorry about how those last ones didnt apply i just got carried away
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Meh.
I wouldnt consider it a really important event that some girl asked me out, found out that I was already in a committed relationship, and immediately ran off either.
It was funny yesterday, but today Dora starts getting annoying.
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You know, now Faye seems like the calmer, more rational one, and Dora's the crazy bitch with issues.
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did no one pay attention to faye? hahahaha what a slacker!
I don't think she's slacking. If you'll recall, she had to clean up the blood once today.
Then Penny.
Now Raven.
The implication here is that college girl is dead.
...But probably not. It's probably a joke.
And Dora's hair is awesome.
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Mine are stone cored with smithed iron outer layers. there heaver than normal.
That's covered in the article, too:
"There is another factor in why modern swords are typically made heavier than historical originals. Out of ignorance many sword makers and their consumers honestly expect that a sword should feel heavy. They have been conditioned by endless displays of lumbering swordsmen with great sweeping blows of slow blades to believe that unless their "barbarian broadsword" is hefty and causes strain when lifted, it can't be a "real" sword as if sheer mass alone affects a successful sword blow."
The modern stuff is wonderfully made and are often works of pure art -- I'd be first in line to drool over your collection -- but they wouldn't stand up to real 14th century battle conditions.
Now for scaring random college girls and intimidating scrawny boyfriends, the new stuff is just about right. :wink:
And yes, Faye's reaction again was perfect. That was one case where if Jeph had wanted to copy/paste a character from the previous strip it would have definitely added to the funny.
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Or Faye is just lazy and is using the excuse that she's already had to clean up the blood.. why not shove the other two who haven't yet in front of her? :P I would actually be sad if Kaiya (?) is dead/gone. I think she's an interesting character, albeit a plot device. But I'd still feel bad. :P
I think Dora needs to cool down a little. First she's okay with Marten almost boob-grabbing Hanners and Tai getting her hood pierced, of which he freaks out about. Yet Dora is completely fine with this.
Yet some girl, who clearly was giving up on trying to date a cute guy, and Marten brushes it off like nothing, Dora freaks out about?
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I think Dora needs to cool down a little. First she's okay with Marten almost boob-grabbing Hanners and Tai getting her hood pierced, of which he freaks out about. Yet Dora is completely fine with this.
Yet some girl, who clearly was giving up on trying to date a cute guy, and Marten brushes it off like nothing, Dora freaks out about?
Interesting, now that you bring that up.. I"m really confused by Dora.
At first I was thinking she has insecurities, but then after what you stated it appears she doesn't really. I almost wonder if she just likes giving Marten a hard time. A tough love to say the least.
Edit: or another character in this strip has major pscychological issues...
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or another character in this strip has major pscychological issues...
Or Jeph is forum baiting.
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Man it's almost like when you recycle the same stagnant uninspired boring-ass drama that sucked the first time you did it, you get the same retarded-assed reactions to the stagnant uninspired boring-ass drama that you got the first sucky time you used it! :laugh:
Oh man who woulda thunk it?! :-) :-) :-)
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laf.
I love all the 'z0mg dora is teh bihhhtch!!1!'
dora having a slightly jealous knee-jerk reaction is nothing new.
She's not psycho about it, threatening customers with violence is a time-honored CoD tradition.
And yeah, she's applying a double standard to marten when she no doubt gets hit on frequently at CoD. I flirt with the cute baristas. its almost required.
but so what? she overreacts, then calms down.
a lot.
why is this new?
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Dora's a bitch!
(I hate to disappoint the creator.)
(Also: she really is a bit of a bitch.)
(And her hair is not good.)
didnt your mother ever tell you that if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything? or stop running in and out, pick one and stay there? or dont eat those cookies youll spoil your supper?
....sorry about how those last ones didnt apply i just got carried away
I just asked my mother and she thinks Dora's a bitch too.
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You know, now Faye seems like the calmer, more rational one, and Dora's the crazy bitch with issues.
oh that's just because Dora's in a relationship and Faye's (technically) single. Boys make girls crazy imo.
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Oh hoo-fucking-ray, more Clingy!Dora. If Marten had a spine, he would've dumped the hypercontrolling bitch by now.
Of course, if Marten had a spine, he'd've never hooked up with her, because women like that are attracted to the kinds of men they can gut like a fish and then have the man apologize because some of his blood splashed on her shoe.
Like that stupid show, Greek
You mean "Grssk".
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Man, Dora's a *****. :p
Faye saying the same thing as last comic was effing hilarious.
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Man guys if Dora was my girlfriend I would totally just start like making out with her or something right there on the counter because she looks so hot when she is angry :laugh: :laugh: :-o :lol:
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I like how Jeph basically only throws a filler comic out there to get it out of place for the weekend and the Topatoco gig, yet manages to stick all kinds of burning sticks into the ant hill that is the WCT thread, keeping it well occupied until monday (maybe for his own amusement or bemusement, can't tell which).
You don't know how good you have it here! :O
Also dance, ants puppets, dance!
Faye's line is a horse you'll never be able to beat to death imho. May she keep us informed about the clean up-schedule for a long time.
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Marten's in a no-win situation here; I've been in a relationship with someone with jealousy issues and I know that there's some information you just don't volunteer regardless of how innocent it is... but if she finds out, look out! "Why didn't you tell me?... etc. etc." Next, Dora's going to assume something's going on because Marten didn't talk about it right away when really, considering Dora's history of negative reactions, Marten has good reason not to talk about it.
Man it's almost like when you recycle the same stagnant uninspired boring-ass drama that sucked the first time you did it, you get the same retarded-assed reactions to the stagnant uninspired boring-ass drama that you got the first sucky time you used it! :laugh:
Oh man who woulda thunk it?! :-) :-) :-)
And yet... You're still reading it! How about that? :-) :-) :-)
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Cue completely idiotic "Dora\'s a bitch!" "No, Marten\'s a jerk!" debate on the comic discussion boards.
Y'know, when I see comments like this from the author I wonder what kind of comments he really expects on these boards. Does he just want people discussing the art? LOL'ing at the jokes? Talking about Faye's Boobs? What? (Of course we already do all that and then some) I just don't understand how he can have his characters behave in certain ways and NOT have people talk about it.
I would be LOVING the discussions here if this were my comic, even if I didn't always agree with all of them.
Very good point. That sort of thing really baffles me.
An artist doesn't have to respond to everything said about their work and for me it really hurts the feeling of professionalism to make little comments like that about a portion of the people that enjoy the comic. Some people read the comic for the characters and plot, some people read it for the references, some read it to enjoy the art and others read it to really enjoy the character art.
Some will enjoy it by themselves, some will talk about it with friends, others will post on the forums. The nature of this sort of thing is that people will draw from it in ways that the artist might not have intended and I don't see any need for the artist to make little passive-agressive jabs at anyone who reads the comic.
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Wow, Dora went from mildly kooky and lovable to restraining order and a deer rifle nuts pretty quick there.
edit: nurr spelling
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I think Dora should just sit down,relax and take a damn chill pill.
Poor Martin,poor College chick,poor Raven,
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Man guys if Dora was my girlfriend I would totally just start like making out with her or something right there on the counter because she looks so hot when she is angry :laugh: :laugh: :-o :lol:
seconded.
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Oh hoo-fucking-ray, more Clingy!Dora. If Marten had a spine, he would've dumped the hypercontrolling bitch by now.
Of course, if Marten had a spine, he'd've never hooked up with her, because women like that are attracted to the kinds of men they can gut like a fish and then have the man apologize because some of his blood splashed on her shoe.
I'm sensing some barely repressed issues RM, come on over, lay down on the couch, relax.
Now tell the complete strangers where life touched you.
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It is my personal belief that Dora isn't being overly psycho-protective. She is angry at Marten for making it difficult for her to add Smif-chick to her lesbian harem. Said harem includes Faye, Penny, Raven, Hanners, and Tai. Smif-chick would add a youthful innocence that is lacking from the harem.
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I think Dora had a huge over-reaction. My ex girlfriend had major jealousy issues, and a situation somewhat similar to this happened once before. I sympathise with Marten.
Edit: Spelling, sorry.
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I wouldn't say Dora is overreacting as much as you people think. She already knows that one girl asked him out, and he didn't mention it at all. If he doesn't mention the one time she already knows about, there could be many other times she doesn't know about (not helped by the fact that Marten replied, "No" when she asked if anything out of the ordinary happened, which she could possibly interpret as meaning he gets asked out a lot). A lot of people are being a bit hypocritical here, unless you are as goody goody as Meena's ex-boyfriend Dave then I can pretty much guarantee that every single guy in this thread would feel at least a little mad/upset/jealous/whatever if they thought their girlfriend was working at a place where good looking men asking them out was commonplace. From my experience it would be no different for a good portion if not exactly the same for the ladies.
Granted, perhaps Dora got a little more angry than some of us would but hey, drama makes for good lulz.
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I wouldn't say Dora is overreacting as much as you people think. She already knows that one girl asked him out, and he didn't mention it at all.
So what ? Thats because Marten didnt thought thats very important. It was more of a 5 minute annoyance that he forgot about later.
At least thats how it would be for me.
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I wouldn't say Dora is overreacting as much as you people think. She already knows that one girl asked him out, and he didn't mention it at all.
So what ? Thats because Marten didnt thought thats very important. It was more of a 5 minute annoyance that he forgot about later.
At least thats how it would be for me.
For friggin real. She was something passing that never happened. I see blood, and breakups.
Or perhaps Dora feels threatened? Young hotness versus her weird ass hairdo. Hotness wins.
Hope nameless chick becomes a regular.
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ass hairdo?
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ass hairdo?
Excellent use of xkcd #37 (http://www.xkcd.com/37/). :D
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It seems fairly straightforward to me. Dora has major major insecurity issues. Marten didn't want to set them off by telling her about something that didn't mean anything to him. She'll get pissed, he'll get defensive, they'll both get over it. It's called being in a relationship.
Although, just once I'd like to see her do something stupid or insensitive that really pushes his buttons and pisses him off.
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Already happened: 1098 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1098).
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Oh my god, could it be? He's gonna get out drinking with ...
I'm afraid to say it, not after last time. °~°
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Do you take notes or something on what happens with all of the comics? seriously paul, how can you reference them that well?
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Already happened: 1098 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1098).
Except then Marten got told off for not immediately rolling over for her, then Dora gave a heartwarming explanation that totally did not affect her future behavior at all.
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....aaaaaand Dora has fallen to the bottom-rung of the characters for me as of this strip.
Jealousy's bad enough. Trying to trap someone when you have no good reason to (The girl said that Marten told her he has a girlfriend. Isn't that enough?)? That's a SERIOUS character flaw. And I'm sorry, her stated reasons for being like this simply don't fly. Having a bad high school experience or an asshat for a brother who casually is hypersuccessful at everything does not condone acting like an idiot over a decade later. Christ, Faye's had a much worse past, and her behaviour is still unforgivable. Dora simply doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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It's idiotic to call a bitch a bitch? How about Jeph's a jerk? "Isn't Hanners CUTE?!?! Don't you DARE insult my Dora! HAHA look what I did to Steve!"
What's idiotic is how long I'll keep sticking around and taking abuse from the author of a comic that was already more fun in the archive when I started reading (circa Hannelore's Mother storyline).
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so what would be the best action in this situation. if marten brought up that he got asked out, I think it would sound like he's flaunting it to make dora jealous. There was no reason for Marten to think that Dora knew about the girl, so I understand his decision to be silent at first.
maybe he should have admitted it in panel 3?
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Eh, Dora's overreacting to be sure, but there are several reasons for that:
1) She's always had insecurities about relationships
2) We just went through a major time-skip; this may be about the point or past the point that her previous relationships broke up, making her extra paranoid
3) She's wondering just how often Martin's getting hit on that she doesn't know about
4) We'd lose a lot of funny if she didn't have problems #1-3. Rule of funny, guys. Sheesh.
Interestingly, I've been through this with my fiance: She spent most of the first eighteen months of our relationship worried that some other girl was going to snatch me away. At one point, she was seriously jealous about a girl who is a) fourteen years younger than me, and b) my unofficially adopted sister. She has yet to threaten anyone with a sword (darnnit--that would be hilarious!), but we've had to go through the reasons I'm dating her and not someone else a few dozen times now to reassure her.
So yeah, sit back and enjoy Guts!Dora. And for the spelling/grammar nazis out there, find nine typos and the tenth one is gofuckyourself. 8-)
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Futile attempts to do the impossible
:roll:
That's more like it.
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How about waiting to see how big a deal this really is. Nobody likes it when they feel their partner is keeping secrets from them. Also, the strip ends mid-conversation. If Marten goes on with "Well, I didn't think of it as a big deal. You know, I told her I have a girlfriend, and that was it" and Dora doesn't accept that explanation, *then* I think she's over reacting.
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lol, faye must be gloating at the shit that going down.
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When Dora is like this the comic isn't very fun to read. This is why she's my least favorite character. There's no reason to react the way she did, especially because she knows that Marten turned the girl down.
She also knows that Marten is epic amounts of faithful, i.e. the Hannelore's boob strip.
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It's idiotic to call a bitch a bitch? How about Jeph's a jerk? "Isn't Hanners CUTE?!?! Don't you DARE insult my Dora! HAHA look what I did to Steve!"
That amused me. =)
It holds some truth, although to his defence, he called Dora's and Marten's (possibly even Faye's, though not very probably) behavior idiotic himself (http://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/1141162302).
"Should be funny." -> in oh so many ways even beyond the comic itself. So very well played. :D
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I ain't gonna get into the "Dora/Marten" have problems shit ... however, I will laugh at the best part of yesterday (1323) comic: "THUNK!" that was gold.
And the fact that Faye is passin' the blood cleaning to Raven and Penny is fuckin' halarious !!!
BUT as Jeph said in 1098's News post oh Allah the drama it is strangling me
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Dora's insecurities have always annoyed me. At some point that issue has to come to a head.
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4) We'd lose a lot of funny if she didn't have problems #1-3. Rule of funny, guys. Sheesh.
Rule of Funny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny) only applies when it's, y'know, funny. It's probably telling that when there's a newspost joke about how there's going to be a silly "Marten's a jerk, Dora's a bitch" argument, there really hasn't been anyone that seriously thinks Marten's being a jerk, while virtually EVERYONE thinks Dora's being a bitch. *shrug* The comic as a whole is still funny as hell, but this particular kind of thing? It's more painful to read than anything. Rule of Funny doesn't get to cover it.
Or, of course, the newspost comment could be a completely intentionally ironic statement and this is *precisely* what he wants from us. DAMN YOU AND YOUR DIABOLICAL SCHEMES
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Well, we've done the arc where Faye starts addressing her issues, maybe now we are approaching the point where Dora does the same.
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Well, we've done the arc where Faye starts addressing her issues, maybe now we are approaching the point where Dora does the same.
But character development is a sin!
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Man I like the comic better when it was simple gags and not drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama SNAKE drama drama drama...
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Dora has spouted insecurity before and then realized it and backed down. Her issues aren't giant economy sized ones and she's not dumb, so at some point the information that Marten turned the girl down (girl is all embarrassed about it) will sink in and she'll come out of the red zone.
In the mean time, it's funny.
(Character development is NOT a sin! 43 years worth of the same 6 year old kids is just WEIRD.)
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I'm sorry, but it really bothers me when artists diss their fans.
Here you have a large group of people who all like something that you have created, who appreciate your work so much that they obsessively wait for each new installment, invest energy, time and love into your characters and story, and care enough about both that they spend a lot of time discussing it with each other in this forum. And instead of being proud of having created something that can get a reaction like that, you act as though the attention is a nuisance? I enjoy QC and respect Jeph Jaqcues as an artist, but that attitude really irks me. Sure, the discussion in WCT can some times get a little... inane. But you should be glad people care enough about your work to bother discussing it at all! Methinks the artist has been spoiled by fame and a large fanbase.
Hah. :P Each time I post here, it seems to be about something completely different from the comic itself.
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I think I'm going to stop reading Questionable Content, for the simple reason that Jeph is an arrogant asshole. It's a shame, since the comic is entertaining most of the time and the art is exceptional, viewing where it came from, but honestly I can't respect an artist who doesn't respect his fans. Happy reading, all.
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Six words.
At least he's not Tim Buckley.
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Or Jeph is forum baiting.
I doubt he is a fisherman; you mean bating. :wink:
Faye's line is a horse you'll never be able to beat to death imho. May she keep us informed about the clean up-schedule for a long time.
Absolutely! This was my favorite part of the comic. Faye's sarcasm FTW!
I will give Jeph what he already knows is about to happen all weekend:
Yes, Dora is a bitch. As a couple people have already noted, this is not the first time we have seen her go apeshit over absolutely nothing. She has Marten practically wrapped around her finger, but when she learns that some little girl who does not even seem to be his type has flirted with him, she has to assume it is something more than it is. Yesterday's comic was funny; her overreaction just added to the lulz of the nameless chick's bad day, but today, it is just plain irritating.
I agree that Dora will probably realize how she is behaving and calm down, but why does she even have to escalate the issue in the first place? Why can she simply not make the connection between what the little girl said and Marten not thinking the event was worth remembering or even discussing? Obviously, Marten is not cheating on her because after the whole Hannelore-boob-shot, he could barely keep himself together, so I am left to just groan about why Dora is the way she is until Jeph decides to write the "Dora-talk."
Once Faye came clean about her "issues," she noticeably changed and behaves now like someone who at least recognizes that her problems are what drive her to be as mean as she can be. We have already witnessed a minor Dora-talk when she went on about Sven, 1107 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107), but it really only scratched the surface. I know everyone hearts Dora and knows Faye is the only one with unresolved issues in the comic, but these constant sniveling arguments with Marten about their relationship tell me Dora has got a giant walk-in closet full of skeletons that need to come to light if she and Marten are going to survive as a couple.
I think I'm going to stop reading Questionable Content, for the simple reason that Jeph is an arrogant asshole. It's a shame, since the comic is entertaining most of the time and the art is exceptional, viewing where it came from, but honestly I can't respect an artist who doesn't respect his fans. Happy reading, all.
Seriously? I figured it was all sarcasm. If he really got irked by the forums he would already have closed them.
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Frankly, I don't care how big of an asshole an artist is. An artist's work stands on it's own. Be it actor, musician, writer, or whatever, if what they create is exceptional, I don't care what they are like personally. In the same way that I don't care how nice and sincere they are if they produce crap. The art should be judged independently from the artist that produces it. I don't think of Jeff as an asshole, but even if I did I would still read his work as long as I found it entertaining.
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... I can pretty much guarantee that every single guy in this thread would feel at least a little mad/upset/jealous/whatever if they thought their girlfriend was working at a place where good looking men asking them out was commonplace....
According to earlier strips [citation needed] CoD IS a place where the girls that work there get hit on all the time (Dora with some meathead, Fay with Angus, Raven with that D&D guy, just to name a few). I can't imagine there would be any reason for this type of thing to stop. Barristas are often cute girls who give you coffee! What's not to love!?
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Kaitco, I like your take on the current issue here, but (you knew there was a but, right?) I'd like to throw in another thought re: Dora's closet o' skeletons. Her behavior does put me in mind of a woman who was once in love and found out, probably long after the relationship ended, that her guy was cheating on her THE WHOLE TIME. So, she can't REALLY trust Marten and she can't trust herself. Therein lies the path to total irrational, even bitchy behavior. No, it isn't a lot of fun to watch, but it does lead one to much entertaining speculation.
As to the funny/not funny and artistic ideas and so forth, either Jeph has some idea he's eventually going to get to, or he thought there was more funny to be had from watching Dora go red zone and Marten shudder in terror -- and, of course, one more line from Faye on the blood cleanup schedule. I'm hoping on the 'idea to be developed later' path, but I don't fault him for the "one more Faye Comment" gag. The man puts his brain children out here without benefit of editor, committee-for-improvement-of-funny, or (sometimes) much sleep. It keeps me coming back and pointing others to the strip, so at least for me it's working.
Also, an out-of-place comment (being as I'm all new here and so forth) but it seems to me that announcing once's departure from a forum or cessation of reading anything is a rather passive-aggressive method of trying to say "If you appreciated me, you'd change to be the way I want you to be." Terribly effective technique, of course.
I wonder if I can get another possessive participle into that paragraph?
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i dont know what you guys are talking about with Jeph being a jerk and whatnot. when i read it i actually laughed because it was a joke about exactly what was going to happen in the forums (and has happened since he posted the comic).
also... 2 days ago everyone was in love with dora, and now the dora hate is running rampant on this forum.
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I think I'm going to stop reading Questionable Content, for the simple reason that Jeph is an arrogant asshole. It's a shame, since the comic is entertaining most of the time and the art is exceptional, viewing where it came from, but honestly I can't respect an artist who doesn't respect his fans. Happy reading, all.
Any logical reason?
Its a scenario he KNOWS will bring about debate. He is just being interactive and not some kind of aloof artist.
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So far though it seems like Jeph was wrong, I haven't seen anyone calling Marten a jerk.
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Frankly, I don't care how big of an asshole an artist is. An artist's work stands on it's own. Be it actor, musician, writer, or whatever, if what they create is exceptional, I don't care what they are like personally. In the same way that I don't care how nice and sincere they are if they produce crap. The art should be judged independently from the artist that produces it. I don't think of Jeff as an asshole, but even if I did I would still read his work as long as I found it entertaining.
This is the best way to handle such things. I know I enjoy a lot of stuff by musicians and writers that I haven't thought were the greatest people based on interviews and such and I'd hate to be missing out on all that stuff.
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Frankly, I don't care how big of an asshole an artist is. An artist's work stands on it's own. Be it actor, musician, writer, or whatever, if what they create is exceptional, I don't care what they are like personally. In the same way that I don't care how nice and sincere they are if they produce crap. The art should be judged independently from the artist that produces it. I don't think of Jeff as an asshole, but even if I did I would still read his work as long as I found it entertaining.
This is the best way to handle such things. I know I enjoy a lot of stuff by musicians and writers that I haven't thought were the greatest people based on interviews and such and I'd hate to be missing out on all that stuff.
like when a rockstar spits on the crowd. doesnt mean im not going to the show. just means im not sitting in the front row...... that rhymed.
but i seriously dont think thats what jeph was doing. i think it was just a joke.
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I actually prefer reading comics where the artists acts like a jerk to their fanbase, as long as the customer service is still there.
Also: I don't think it's POSSIBLE for me to stop liking Dora by this point. She entertains me incredibly much.
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Jeph, I love you. You say that drama is going to happen, and lo and behold! XD
I find it really funny that Faye is handling Sven, who is an unapologetic cad, better than Dora is handling Marten. Perhaps they are symbolically switching places?
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OMG DORA'S A BITCH!!!11 :-D
Though seriously, if I were in Marten's shoes I would begin to wonder if she was really worth the ignition during any little thing that happens. I really thought she'd gotten over it too after the whole Hanners' boob thing. Can you blame Marty for being so nervous to mention it? It's like a cycle.
1. <3
2. RRRAAAGEE
3. ;_;
4. <3 <3
5. Repeat
Yeah, enter the debate... ALL WEEKEND.
I think I'm going to stop reading Questionable Content, for the simple reason that Jeph is an arrogant asshole. It's a shame, since the comic is entertaining most of the time and the art is exceptional, viewing where it came from, but honestly I can't respect an artist who doesn't respect his fans. Happy reading, all.
(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)
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Hook, line and sinker eh Jeph?
:lol: ;)
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I almost wonder if she just likes giving Marten a hard time. A tough love to say the least.
I'm thinking that Dora is having a bit of sadistic fun with the both of them just becuase it was too good an opportunity to pass up.
I mean, first, the girl comes into CoD and pretty much CONFESSES, and Dora gets to scare the hell out of her all the while laughing that Marten turned her down. Then, she gives Marten the "opportunity" to "confess" what happened, and when he doesn't, she gets to scare the hell out of HIM all the while laughing that she already knew Marten is faithful.
Dora may be an evil bitch, but she's an evil bitch for different reasons that some might think: She's an evil bitch because I can see behind her righteous indignation someone who takes great pleasure in watching people squirm.
Do I hate her? Hell no. Hate the hairstyle, but I'll get over it. Personally, I see this as totally in character for her. She's just a bit TOO convincing this time.
I mean, she convinced most of you, didn't she?
Good job, Jeph.
Well played.
S
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a bit off topic, but am I the only one who likes Dora's new hair?
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Her issues aren't giant economy sized ones and she's not dumb, so at some point the information that Marten turned the girl down (girl is all embarrassed about it) will sink in and she'll come out of the red zone.
red zone.
I'd make a tasteless joke about that right about now... but I won't.
Though it is kind of odd to have her be totally fine with Marty seeing Hanners' boobage one day then act up about something like this the next. I'm not the kind of guy who blames everything on that time of the month but still.
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It's never safe to blame anything on that time of month. And certainly not during that time of month.
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The difference might be that she KNOWS Hanners. Honestly, can you imagine Hannelore having SEX, much less hitting on someone else's guy? If Hanners was possessed by, say, Jackie Collins and suddenly vixened all over Marten, when she came to she'd practically kill herself with guilt and sanitization efforts. Dora wouldn't have to do a thing but watch and maybe give Marten a place to hide.
Dora was ok with it because Hanners is COMPLETELY safe.
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4) We'd lose a lot of funny if she didn't have problems #1-3. Rule of funny, guys. Sheesh.
Generally, things have to be funny before the rule of funny comes into effect. And this abusive relationship is not funny.
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The difference might be that she KNOWS Hanners. Honestly, can you imagine Hannelore having SEX, much less hitting on someone else's guy? If Hanners was possessed by, say, Jackie Collins and suddenly vixened all over Marten, when she came to she'd practically kill herself with guilt and sanitization efforts. Dora wouldn't have to do a thing but watch and maybe give Marten a place to hide.
Dora was ok with it because Hanners is COMPLETELY safe.
I dunno... Dora's been suspicious, even of Hanners, in the past.
Exhibit A (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=600).
Exhibit B (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=635).
Can't find Exhibit C... it was another case of Dora warning Hannelore off Marten.
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I guess I should mention that I loved Dora's reaction yesterday with the broadsword, but that doesn't diminish the annoyance I have with her insecurities. Eventually her insecurity issue has to be resolved, right? Or not. :wink:
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A chunk of this discussion is why Dora reacts differently to the random girl asking for a date vs. Marten saying he saw Hanners' boob.
I think Dora's reaction also depends on who initiated things. In Hanners case, she was unconscious, so did not purposefully initiate the incident.
In the more recent case, random girl actually tried to start something with Marten. I think someone mentioned Dora feeling threatened; that is possible.
Also, to me, the tipping point of her reaction comes in panel 3. Yes, Marten is easily guilted. But when he asks Dora how she found out, in a manner that suggests he did something wrong, it's a pretty sure setup for a negative reaction.
More advisable might have been, in response to Dora's "NOTEWORTHY", for Marten to respond something like, "No, not a big deal at all. I told her I was in a relationship, and that was it." Almost guaranteed to take the wind out of Dora's sails. Marten's actual response added fuel to the fire.
And I don't think Dora is tweaking Marten. She looks pretty mad. And Faye's running commentary is funny!
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"No, not a big deal at all. I told her I was in a relationship, and that was it." Almost guaranteed to take the wind out of Dora's sails. Marten's actual response added fuel to the fire.
I'm sure Marty's gonna learn that sooner or later.
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The difference might be that she KNOWS Hanners. Honestly, can you imagine Hannelore having SEX, much less hitting on someone else's guy? If Hanners was possessed by, say, Jackie Collins and suddenly vixened all over Marten, when she came to she'd practically kill herself with guilt and sanitization efforts. Dora wouldn't have to do a thing but watch and maybe give Marten a place to hide.
Dora was ok with it because Hanners is COMPLETELY safe.
I dunno... Dora's been suspicious, even of Hanners, in the past.
Exhibit A (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=600).
Exhibit B (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=635).
Can't find Exhibit C... it was another case of Dora warning Hannelore off Marten.
Right, yeah, because Dora was totally serious in those cases.
Honestly, if Dora was actually warning away/feeling threatened by Hannelore, she would be more RAWR (hi, see the two most recent strips for what RAWR-Dora looks like in case you've forgotten) and less her easy-going, slightly-sarcastic jokin' self. And while she may have, in "exhibit B", been subtly marking her territory, she wasn't very concerned with it, even though Hanners had confessed to stalking him.
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I dunno... Dora's been suspicious, even of Hanners, in the past.
Exhibit A (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=600).
Exhibit B (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=635).
Can't find Exhibit C... it was another case of Dora warning Hannelore off Marten.
I don't think the first example supports your argument. It IS an excellent example of Dora showing she's aware of her own insecure tendencies and making fun of them, which pretty much indicates a lack of serious threat.
The second one is certainly more vivid and detailed, but Hannelore's reaction is most likely EXACTLY what Dora was going for. A woman cowering in abject terror at an even joking reference to being beheaded isn't likely to jump on the SO of the person making the threat.
And considering Hanners can't even envision using someone else shower http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1321r (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1321r) (pardon the lack of HTML, I'm dangerous to myself and others with any code)
And then there's this one
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1315
And even in the infamous popped boob confession strip, Dora admits that Marten doesn't have much chance of cheating on her
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314
Of course, he came right out with that one because he felt guilty about it. He didn't feel guilty about turning down the girl in the library and most likely did the guy thing with an unimportant detail and forgot it.
Then again, Dora is just maintaining in the face of her insecurities.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
I think Jeph has a handle on his characters and isn't going to fly that far off into insecurity land without some reason more solid than 'Marten Blows Off Girl Who Asks Him Out Because He's In a Good Relationship". Of course, I've seen writers/artists do unreasonable stuff with their stories just because they felt like it so there's no predicting, but so far he's done a good job so I'm gonna say past performance will predict future results.
In the mean time, I'm hoping someone rescues Steve from further episodes of "As the Bottle Turns" and that Will comes back with at least a little of his innocent idealism (and his virgin ass) intact. I'm worried for Will.
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You know, Angus' departure is actually beginning to grow on me. Every time I think of "Born to Run", I see Angus in the next to last panel here: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1310
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People acting irrationally and inconsistently is pretty consistent with human behaviour, if that makes sense :-)
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First off, long time reader first time poster.
moving on, why are you all acting like Dora completely ripped off Martens head? She didn't over react, she was a bit pissed, but she has some right. considering the fact she jokes around about beheading people and such, think how she would act if she really were pissed at marten. look at the comic itself Jeph did not change the style of words when Dora was talking to indicate anger (aside from a few bolded words, but who hasnt heard a mom or g/f stress some words when they are scolding you) nothing ended with an exclamation mark. I don't think she is reacting that dramatically to this. This isn't how dora acts when she is angry. when dora is angry everyone knows it. its not insecurity as much i think it is with annoyance. marten was annoyed by guys hitting on her, as most guys would be, and she is annoyed now that marten is becoming eye candy
So ease off Dora, she's not a bitch....right now....
I also agree that RandomCollegeGirl should become a staple character maybe she can sleep with sven and send faye back over the age, or maybe she will lesbo up with library chick *name escapes me* and hanners.
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That's actually a good point, Bushbr. She doesn't seem as bad on a second reading.
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People acting irrationally and inconsistently is pretty consistent with human behaviour, if that makes sense :-)
TOTALLY agree, there, SuperSUGA -- but it doesn't fly so well in fiction. Probably one reason so many of us like fiction :)
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Or Jeph is forum baiting.
I doubt he is a fisherman; you mean bating. :wink:
Nope, he means baiting, as in luring (1) or taunting (2). Bating is what a falcon does trying to get off its perch. Or, I suppose, half of what a human does trying to, well, get off (fapping instead of flapping?). It also means putting shit on a hide to get the hair off, literally, but that's neither here nor somewhere.
I'm not exactly certain Dora is serious. She herself has baited Marten before, as I recall. But if she is serious, Dora would hardly be the first person to get nervous about such things, especially since Dora herself believes she pirated Marten away from Faye. Reacting this way doesn't make her a bitch so much as it makes her human. As for fiction, very often human consistency separates the popular from the, well, accurate. Which is to say good, to me anyway.
As for Jeph's comment, I don't understand getting upset about his statement, especially since I read the comic and then logged on to the forum quite confident I would see a "Dora's a bitch!"/"No, Marten's a jerk!" debate begin, complete with the occasional spate of idiocy. I would say Jeph needs to start an investment company except for the fact that all he seems able to predict is the very, very likely.
Oh yeah, Said it before, but I'll say it again: I dig Dora's do. (Which in retrospect may be an unfortunately worded statement. But I love alliteration.)
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Yeah, it may be realistic but that doesn't make it any more fun to read. :|
But yeah, at least Dora didn't go RAAAAAAGEE. Still, it's mildly irritating to see her acting that way... in which comic has Marten been annoyed at people flirting with her again?
Even so, Dora's not exactly directing her irritation very well. :/
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But if she is serious, Dora would hardly be the first person to get nervous about such things, especially since Dora herself believes she pirated Marten away from Faye.
That belief might make her more likely to get nervous about someone stealing Marten away from her.
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Or Jeph is forum baiting.
I doubt he is a fisherman; you mean bating. :wink:
Nope, he means baiting, as in luring (1) or taunting (2). Bating is what a falcon does trying to get off its perch. Or, I suppose, half of what a human does trying to, well, get off (fapping instead of flapping?). It also means putting shit on a hide to get the hair off, literally, but that's neither here nor somewhere.
Hence my earlier Hook Line and Sinker comment.
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But if she is serious, Dora would hardly be the first person to get nervous about such things, especially since Dora herself believes she pirated Marten away from Faye.
That belief might make her more likely to get nervous about someone stealing Marten away from her.
which is what i think is the main source of her agitation. she isnt mad at marten, she isn't mad at random college girl. she feels she stole marten from faye,so in her mind she knows marten can be stolen, so add that knowledge to the guilt she carries for "stealing marten", she is almost expecting marten to get stolen. eye for an eye as it were
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It's clear that given her history and whatnot, she would certainly be insecure over a matter such as that. What's mind boggling to me is how her insecurity translates to anger which she takes out on Marten. In my head, that doesn't exactly add up.
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a bit off topic, but am I the only one who likes Dora's new hair?
I love it!
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I love Dora's new do. In fact, if I had long hair I would at the very least debate having it done.
As for Dora's reaction I don't think she has any reason to behave the way she did but that doesn't mean I can't see why she did it. I doubt she is over the insecurity that she was second best after the whole Faye/Marten/Dora love triangle debacle. And considreing she is naturally insecure, well it seems more reasonable.
Its not okay by any means but usually Dora see's reason before any of her insecurities get too out of hand. Which is a good thing considering the amount of weaponry sitting around at CoD.
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I like Dora's hair more and more each strip, for the record.
And anger is a perfectly reasonable - though obviously not a particularly rational - way to handle insecurities, in real life, and being that QC does seem very realistic (at least in human behavior) it's almost expected that Dora would turn her insecurities about losing Martin in the same way she gained him into something angry.
Angry, silent worrying, or OHMYGODIMUSTBEBYHISSIDEEVERYSECONDOFTHEDAY.
Which sounds most likely for Dora to deal with her issues? She's not the type to be silent, she is NOT that clingy, and even more, she does seem like the quick-tempered type.
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Now that I've thought about things for a bit (hey, I'm an editor, it's what I do), I think I have a better idea of what's going on.
Overall, this group of characters is generally quite self-aware of their own flaws. That doesn't mean they have control over their reactions to a situation, just that when they get some time to think things over, they're usually willing to admit what they've done wrong, and even apologize when necessary. Even with the rough handling they toss at each other, there's usually a line they try not to cross.
In this case, I think Dora was expecting Marten to do his usual guilt trip confession so she could rib him about getting hit on, and when he didn't come through, the surprise coupled with the insecurities triggered this reaction. Afterward, she'll likely feel bad and try to make it up to him.
I think my main question is whether Marten will come back with a little bit of spine, which he has every right to do, or whether he'll meekly accept this and maybe even let it fester.
Meanwhile, if things don't quickly blow over, Faye will be seeing cracks in the Marten/Dora relationship, which will complicate her own feelings. I don't know if any of this is what Jeph has planned now that it's happening, but it's very possible that all this is something unexpected building out of what seemed a harmless joke (which often happens in real life too).
Or it all is just a one-off joke and something completely different will happen on Monday. While I like to analyze stories and characters to death (that editor thing again), I also am perfectly willing to enjoy the ride the author is taking me on. When I really want to control where a story zigs or zags, I write my own.
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Marten Marten Marten. The correct response (in panel three) is either "Oh, yeah, that." or "I stand by my 'no'."
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Or Jeph is forum baiting.
I doubt he is a fisherman; you mean bating. :wink:
Nope, he means baiting, as in luring (1) or taunting (2). Bating is what a falcon does trying to get off its perch. Or, I suppose, half of what a human does trying to, well, get off (fapping instead of flapping?). It also means putting shit on a hide to get the hair off, literally, but that's neither here nor somewhere.
My many apologies. Even the grammar police can occasionally make a false arrest. :oops:
But if she is serious, Dora would hardly be the first person to get nervous about such things, especially since Dora herself believes she pirated Marten away from Faye.
That belief might make her more likely to get nervous about someone stealing Marten away from her.
which is what i think is the main source of her agitation. she isnt mad at marten, she isn't mad at random college girl. she feels she stole marten from faye,so in her mind she knows marten can be stolen, so add that knowledge to the guilt she carries for "stealing marten", she is almost expecting marten to get stolen. eye for an eye as it were
I had not actually considered this earlier, but I this line of thinking seems very true. One of those "skeletons" Dora may be hiding is the fact that she still feels guilty about jumping on Marten as soon as it was clear that Faye was not capable of beginning a relationship with him. There may also be something in the idea that Dora still thinks she is just second best and not really what Marten wanted.
Dora has expressed a real interest in Marten since the comic was still in double digits (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=78), but it was not until Faye was "out of the way" and she knew that Marten would not have to actually choose her over Faye that she made her move on him. My vote is still on Dora's insecurities coming to light in that fourth panel, though I am now certain that this whole drama will blow over almost anticlimactically on Monday.
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though I am now certain that this whole drama will blow over almost anticlimactically on Monday.
... That would probably piss 99.9% of readers off.
I know I would be very upset. All that build-up, and then "... Oh, well, it was just a joke. And Faye's blood joke? She just doesn't want to mop up the spilled coffee!"
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It would piss me off too, but I could see it happening. I thought that this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1106) argument arc would last a little longer and grow a little more in-depth than it did, but mostly it had some laughs, sans-Dora, and then Marten did his whole "I'm-totally-understanding-and-such-a-great-guy" bit again. Personally, I am hoping that Marten shows some more backbone and just asks Dora why she is so bent on getting on his case about a non-event, but skepticism always bodes well for me.
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Yeah... Martin needs to come out and say, hey, I love you! Remember? Which means some little freshman girl asking me out at work doesn't even register on my "things that happened today" radar.
But, then again, this is Martin.
So we can't ask for too much, I suppose.
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It's clear that given her history and whatnot, she would certainly be insecure over a matter such as that. What's mind boggling to me is how her insecurity translates to anger which she takes out on Marten. In my head, that doesn't exactly add up.
Does for me, because I have the exact same problem. I don't know why, exactly, but when my insecurities bubble over it tends to translate in to an extremely emotional and sometimes physical lashing out. My poor kid brother can attest to what happens when I finally snap after all kinds of stupid, meaningless, petty shit keeps getting piled on.
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As others have pointed out, anger reactions to incongruous things are common. When a child does something hairbrained or dangerous, scaring Mom near to hysterics, yet comes back whole and unharmed, Mom will often turn from hysterics to relief to anger, with a solid mix of "Don't you ever do that again! What were you thinking!", screaming, tears, smacks on the back of the head, and hugs. Some people react to surprise, even pleasant surprises (like birthday parties) with anger. Anger is often a follow up for fear and worry.
So, maybe Dora really was worried, then relieved, then angry.
As Jimor said above, it all may be a one-off and we are all analyzing it to death. I'll agree, too, that it's 2/3rds of the fun of reading anything. Taking it apart is the job of the reader. Usually the writer doesn't think about stuff nearly as much -- it seems logical or a good idea at the time, the deadline is looming "Hey, yeah, this will work" and -- TADA -- there it is. I seriously doubt Shakespeare spent nearly the amount of time parsing his characters than legions of scholars have long after he made his money.
That was a rotten sentence, but I'm pre caffeine and take no responsibility.
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She probably thinks that Sven will steal Marten away.
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She probably thinks that Sven will steal Marten away.
Well, THAT would be an unexpected twist, I'll admit.
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She probably thinks that Sven will steal Marten away.
She'd like that, 'cuz then she could make a move on Faye.
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She probably thinks that Sven will steal Marten away.
She'd like that, 'cuz then she could make a move on Faye.
cue the fan art!
i still maintain that people are overreacting about Doras reaction. doe she really seem SUPER-Ultra-Mega-Uber angry at marten to you guys? she seems just a bit peeved to me
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though I am now certain that this whole drama will blow over almost anticlimactically on Monday.
... That would probably piss 99.9% of readers off.
I know I would be very upset. All that build-up, and then "... Oh, well, it was just a joke. And Faye's blood joke? She just doesn't want to mop up the spilled coffee!"
What build-up? :P All it was, was a comic that had a joke based on the previous comic. Here on the forum, just like Jeph predicted, 'a completely idiotic debate' is started regardless of his comment. Wasn't that enough to indicate that there really isn't more to it?
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She probably thinks that Sven will steal Marten away.
Well, THAT would be an unexpected twist, I'll admit.
Not to all the Marven shippers, I imagine. :evil:
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MAI FANFIC WILL FINALLY BE CANNON
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I'm old enough to remember when it was all called slash...and it still scares me. No desolate planets with just Sven and Marten, no being trapped on islands, no caves with mysterious hot springs appearing in the midst of terrible blizzards.
Yes, I repent the errors of my youth.
Fan fic can't be canon. That makes it automatically not fan fic. It does nothing to remove the horror, though.
Marten is just mild enough that he might react with pure stunned shock, unable to protest for a minute or so, but I can't picture Sven moving in for even lip action. Hell, they don't even have a bromance going.
And would Dora commit fratricide before she pulled the whole Sapho thing on Faye? (and you KNOW Raven would have her phone out taking pictures).
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Dora gets a little insane sometimes, and when that happens, it makes me feel like it's not Dora... it reminds me that Jeph wrote it, and usually you forget that they are fictitious because the characterization is so good. i don't know. I just can never buy that she would actually flip out at something like that. but what do i know.
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Fan fic can't be canon. That makes it automatically not fan fic. It does nothing to remove the horror, though.
It was a joke.
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Fan fic can't be canon. That makes it automatically not fan fic. It does nothing to remove the horror, though.
It was a joke.
Yes, I was aware. So was my reply. Sorry you missed it. I'll use a scope next time to improve my aim. :angel:
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First HanTai
Next FayeDora
then . . . . . . PenVen
:D
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The fixation of turning QC into a slashfest scares me, more than just a little bit.
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The fixation of turning QC into a slashfest scares me, more than just a little bit.
MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
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You mean it doesn't bore you to death by now?
Odd. :(
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Life would be boring without the occasional odd person.
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The fixation of turning QC into a slashfest scares me, more than just a little bit.
Turning anything into a slash fest is rather horrifying. Leave it on LJ, under a lock, where it belongs.
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I thought that this encounter might be leading up to another "Dora is insecure and takes it out on Marten" fight. I'm pretty sure that's where we're going. I am hoping that Faye tells Marten to grow a pair and tell Dora to stop bitching him out about every time he talks to another girl.
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Life would be boring without the occasional odd person.
But even their behavior can be rather repetitive. ;>
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Everyone's expecting this storyline to go *splat* like the last "Dora's insecurites" storyline, but I want big drama :( I shall make a prophecy! Here goes:
Marten finally gets fed up of Dora getting moody when stuff like this happens and calls her on it, they have a tiff but unlike last time when they stayed up and talked it out they both get huffy and storm off. Marten's back at the library and sees RandomCollegeGirl again, and Friday's strip has him asking her out for a drink or something - Drama and sordid affairs ensue!
I'm putting good odds on that never happening, but I'd love it to, it would be some good drama.
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Whereas I think Dora will tell Marten she's just kidding, but she would rather he tell her about being hit on, which I understand. By which I mean she's a bit serious and a bit worried, but not quite as much as some seem to think.
Also, every time I see "grow a pair" in these forums, I wonder how well these folks do in relationships. Marten has shown he can get angry when he thinks the situation warrants. And as I recall, he didn't go crawling back to Dora—he went back to someone he loved who was hurting from having some old, deep wounds pulled open again. I also note that they both apologized, not just Marten. And a last note, to the Clan of Testicular Growth—the 'winner' of a couple's argument is nearly always really the loser.
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Speaking as a member of the "grow a pair" faction, I've been doing well in relationships. More to the point, I was like Marten very early on in life - THAT was when my relationships were bad. While mutual compromise and communication make for a good relationship, one-sided caving is going to a)make the caving person progressively more resentful, and b)get the caving person dumped the moment the other person finds someone with more balls or more money. Why would someone have fear of abusing his/her partner if the partner never reacts with meaningful consequences?
Growing a pair? GOOD IDEA.
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Do you really think that Dora is abusing Marten?
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Also, every time I see "grow a pair" in these forums, I wonder how well these folks do in relationships.
Bad, because I've always been in Marten's position where the girl uses me as a scratching post because she's a bit sad that day, or she's got some bullshit excuse, or the Sun rose that morning.
Do you really think that Dora is abusing Marten?
Yes.
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Whereas I think Dora will tell Marten she's just kidding, but she would rather he tell her about being hit on, which I understand. By which I mean she's a bit serious and a bit worried, but not quite as much as some seem to think.
Would she really want him to tell her, though? Someone already said it earlier, but that would seem a little like he was trying to be a manipulative twat rather than keeping open those lines of communication: "Hey, someone asked me out. Yeah, that's right. You just remember that I can leave any time I want, kid." I doubt Marten would even be able borrow a set big enough to play off something like that.
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Dora as abuser. Wow. I would have picked Faye as the one who really played headgames with Marten. I'll need to go back through the strips to find the ones where Dora calls Marten names, undermines his self confidence, threatens to leave him or to hurt him, or does more than have a 10 minute insecurity episode.
Can anyone help me find all the Dora the Abuser strips? No, seriously, maybe she really is and the evidence is in the strip.
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Can anyone help me find all the Dora the Abuser strips? No, seriously, maybe she really is and the evidence is in the strip.
HOW DARE YOU CUT YOUR HAIR (I DON'T NEED HIS APPROVAL TO CHANGE MY HAIR)
HOW DARE YOU HAVE HAD GIRLFRIENDS YEARS AGO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT
HOW DARE YOU NOT BUY INTO MY IRRATIONAL CONSPIRACY THEORY (then Marten got told off for not immediately rolling over for her, then Dora gave a heartwarming explanation that totally did not affect her future behavior at all)
HOW DARE SOME OTHER GIRL ASK YOU OUT AND YOU SAY NO THEN NOT IMMEDIATELY TELL ME
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... Yeah, the red highlighted font isn't creepy. At all. Nope. Uh-uh.
And nah, guess I haven't been here quite long enough yet.
.......I don't think Dora overreacted.
I think that some crazy forum people miiiight be overreacting, though.
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Some random woman asks him out, he says no, and he's supposed to regard this as a noteworthy event in his day?
Come on Dora.
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.......I don't think Dora overreacted.
I think that some crazy forum people miiiight be overreacting, though.
I think it's both. :p
I think Dora's going a little overboard, but at least she's not raging like last time. As far as Marty's testicular fortitude, I agree with Roullefere. He's just non confrontational. He can get angry, even with Dora, if his buttons are pushed just right. But he normally likes to handle it calmly or with humor. He may be a bit too unwilling to make himself firm though.
... also agree with absofflab, completely.
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I took a somewhat less biased look at it than some. Also, a headcold and a bad case of vertigo means I currently have LOTS of time..
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1024
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1030
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1031
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1032
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1036
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1040
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1041
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1047
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1048
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1056
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1058
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1059
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1066
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1067
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1092
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1095
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1096
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1097
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1098
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1100
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1101
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1102
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1103
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1104
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1106
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1110
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1112
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1117
Marten being possessive
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1132
More Dora "abuse"
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1133
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1139
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1147
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1157
Martin can be insecure, too
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1159
Dora Abusing Marten
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1166
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1170
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1171
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1173
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1174
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1188
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1220
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1225
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1228
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1250
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1262
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1263
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1268
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1273
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1282
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1315
I didn't go back to the very beginning because, well, it's a long list -- all strips showing Dora and Martin's relationship. Martin has been, in at least one case, insecure about his relationship with Dora enough do be dumb, and at least one time visibly jealous.
The current strip is getting what might be terms an over reaction from the fan base, perhaps, as so far we've seen -- what, 30 seconds worth of irrationality?
Of course, it's pretty average for people with serious baggage or even not so serious baggage to project their own experiences onto unrelated situations.
Time for more Nyquil.
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Marten's examples are totally benign as far as I can see.
And a lot of those "Dora's abuse" examples are just Dora screwing around or being brutally honest.
(brutal honesty happens to be a quality I'm attracted to...)
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Marten's examples are totally benign as far as I can see.
And a lot of those "Dora's abuse" examples are just Dora screwing around or being brutally honest.
(brutal honesty happens to be a quality I'm attracted to...)
Exactly!
I don't really think Dora is abusive. Sharp, and sometimes a little more honest than tactful, and plenty insecure, but no relationship is 100% delight all the time, and Marten has had a fair bit of delight, shall we say, in his relationship with Dora. It's hard to read a timeline in the strip since it's pretty time flexible -- I'd guess it's at least 6 months, maybe a year -- and ONE bad fight with a big make up afterwards? Award winning!
The one difference I noticed was one several others pointed out -- this is the first time anything -- ANYTHING -- possibly threatening to Dora/The relationship happened to Marten that he DIDN'T immediately tell Dora. He told her about Tai's piercing immediately, about Hanners immediately, about Faye right off -- but not this, and it is about as minor as Hanners. And, again, it's not a full out argument yet -- it's a 30 second maybe irrational reaction.
Hell, we are all spending much more time on it than I suspect Jeph or any of the characters will. Of course, in my case, I've got nothing else to do except cough and feel dizzy, so I'm good with it.
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th one where marten was being "possesive" is total croc!
1: he's kidding
2:Tai is kidding
3: he's horny
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Marten was about as possessive as Dora is abusive. Titles were ironically intended.
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yeah, noticed that after posting.
newb mistake please forgive me
:oops:
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I will admit that there are times when one needs to assert oneself in a relationship—and Marten did that, very well, in fact, at the end of The Talk. Scanning over that reminds me that Faye could be considered abusive, and not just on the physical end of things, if she'd let things go on much further. Whenever I think i detest Faye, I have to remember that she did do the right thing then, and will, sooner or later, probably do it again.
I see Dora as a person who's worked pretty hard to get over a fairly serious childhood hang-up (I'll remind you that we don't know how the Bianchi parents reacted to Sven poaching Dora's friends: for several reasons they should have told him they were off-limits) and yet, sometimes, lets it get the better of her. Like it or not, try as she will, strong as she has become, that insecurity, that tiny fear that she comes second in everything is going to be with Dora for a long time , and every now and then, or more frequently, it will come out. But she has behaved better—hasn't she more or less accepted the Faye-Sven whateverthehellitis? (Or at least tries to act as though she does, which also deserves credit).
Marten, on the other hand, seems to have always been supported at home, however weird it might have been, He's an only child, too, which can make a difference so long as the parents aren't too self-absorbed. Furthermore, he's used to strong women (I don't think any woman can make it in the porn business as well as V Vance has without being fairly strong. Her friendly relationship with her husband confirms this), which is, I suspect, what attracts him to Dora in the first place. Faye, too, for that matter. (more on that in another post).
As I look over this, I can't help thinking that Jeph is looking at all of these posts and laughing his ass off (which is healthier than getting angry). I don't mind, though. The over-analysis, the mincing and dicing of the plot-lines, the citing of old strips, the attempts to piece a consistent narrative together and discover the inner workings of nonexistent people—god, I love it so!
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HOW DARE YOU HAVE HAD GIRLFRIENDS YEARS AGO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTINENT
This one is BS considering a comic concerning Marten's girlfriend came in way before they started dating. She had no problems with him having ex-girlfriends.
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You know, now Faye seems like the calmer, more rational one, and Dora's the crazy bitch with issues.
oh that's just because Dora's in a relationship and Faye's (technically) single. Boys make girls crazy imo.
Errrrrrrrrrrrr ....
.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...
:roll:
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Damn right they do!
^^
And maaaaaaayyyyn did this thread get out of hand tl;dr-wise!
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.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...
:roll:
Boys being made crazy by girls does not preclude girls being made crazy by boys.
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.... yes, while boys stay totally sane because of girls ...
:roll:
Boys being made crazy by girls does not preclude girls being made crazy by boys.
i think it just boils down to the fact that deep down... we're all fucked up sex crazed morons.
or maybe thats just me
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People make people crazy -- I won't even say it's gender specific :)
Hm, it just occurred to me...QC has one lesbian character and at least one bi woman, but guys are all pretty much straight through and through. Now, it's not surprising -- authors tend to write about what they like, and Jeph may just like bi-girls and lesbians (oh horrors, the boys like the girl on girl action. I am *shocked*. SHOCKED, I say...*yawn*) but aside from one mention by Marten about fearing he'd be overcome with the desire to high five another guy in the midst of things, and the brief but scary flirtation with Marten/Sven slash *shudder* I wonder why it's been skipped over?
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Marten's old boss Steve (back when Marten was the office bitch), was gay (I think). Steve talked about his boyfriend on multiple occasions.
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Marten's dad is gay, but he hasn't made an actual appearance in the comic.
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Did anyone notice what Jeph did with moving the point of view between the top and third panels from the top?
I especially liked the second panel from the top.
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Damned if I can find the work-related strips. Can someone point them out to me before I go crazy(er)?
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They must be WAY back...I'll keep looking.
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Arcs starting at 86 (or 85) and 624.
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Hmmmm, that has to hurt a little. Not that she's biting his head off. I mean, jealosy can be cute in a girl, occassionaly.
But assuming that being hit on is a rare, interesting, and lets-tell-everyone type of thing has to hurt with shred of ego marty possesses.
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Yup specific strips mentioning it
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=86
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=87
Is quite a long time ago!
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he comes back after Martens mom visits, and then marten gets laid off. good office space spoof
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The last comic, (Where Dora pulls out the sword, and praticularly the look in her eyes as she says, "Carnally, on a regular basis" is the funniest morbid thing that I have seen Dora do for a long time. Part of me was wishing that Dora would chase the woman out of the store with it for a few more panels, but my imagination was able to come up with a funny conclusion to that.
Faye's quote at the end of this and the next comic is very Apathetic, and also good.
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this has probably been pointed out but, I get the Comic Via the RSS everyday and at the end of this comic was
"OMG DORA IS SUCH A BITCH"
"NO WAY MARTEN IS THE JERK IN THIS SITUATION"
[jeph fires a nuclear missile at the QC discussion board]
and it sent a fit of Giggles through me coming and seeing the board still going strong, just as he predicted, haha
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(http://crying_baby.jpg)
This image file is hogging my bandwidth!!!! Moderators, why haven't you locked this thread to put an end to such silliness!?!?
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*Drops Quantum Bomb into Thread*