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Title: WCT January 26-30
Post by: JReynolds on 25 Jan 2009, 08:42
Gung hei fat choi to everybody-- the Year of the Ox starts on the 26th.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 25 Jan 2009, 15:38
Never could get the hang of Chinese Astrology. I think it claims I'm a Snake, to which I reply, "for abuse, get in line."

Wonder if anyone's ever pestered Jeph about character birth-dates over in "Ask Jeph"?

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 25 Jan 2009, 16:37
It's all Greek to me  :D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kgbisouttogetme on 25 Jan 2009, 17:30
yay time for us to obsess over a new week of comics
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heavyoak on 25 Jan 2009, 17:58
Chinese Astrology says that I am a Dragon.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 18:06
Using the year designation (wow, you learn way more than you can process on Wikipedia)  I am a Snake, which means

Snake (Yin, 2nd Trine, Fixed Element Fire): Deep thinker, wise, mystic, graceful, soft-spoken, sensual, creative, prudent, shrewd, ambitious, elegant, cautious, responsible, calm, strong, constant, purposeful. Can be loner, bad communicator, possessive, hedonistic, self-doubting, distrustful, mendacious.

Bwahahah!

Dragons are (Yang, 1st Trine, Fixed Element Wood): Magnanimous, stately, vigorous, strong, self-assured, proud, noble, direct, dignified, zealous, fiery, passionate, decisive, pioneering, ambitious, generous, loyal. Can be arrogant, imperious, tyrannical, demanding, eccentric, grandiloquent and extremely bombastic, prejudiced, dogmatic, over-bearing, violent, impetuous, brash.


Can we start obsessing early?  I'm bored. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 25 Jan 2009, 18:21
Can be loner, bad communicator, possessive, hedonistic, self-doubting, distrustful, mendacious.

...I'm depressed by how accurate a description that is of me. Except for mendacious. Not sure what that is.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 18:29
Can be loner, bad communicator, possessive, hedonistic, self-doubting, distrustful, mendacious.

...I'm depressed by how accurate a description that is of me. Except for mendacious. Not sure what that is.




Main Entry:
    men·da·cious Listen to the pronunciation of mendacious
Pronunciation:
    \men-ˈdā-shəs\
Function:
    adjective
Etymology:
    Latin mendac-, mendax — more at amend
Date:
    1616

: given to or characterized by deception or falsehood or divergence from absolute truth <mendacious tales of his adventures>
synonyms see dishonest
— men·da·cious·ly adverb
— men·da·cious·ness noun

Are you a lying liar who lies? 

I knew what it meant, but only because I'm old and have seen the Newman/Taylor version of "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" too many times.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 25 Jan 2009, 18:36
Oh. Well, then except for that one. I certainly never lie.


....Trust me on this.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 18:38
Norton, sir, you are the soul of honestly and truth.  I trust you implicitly. 

...because you do not know where I live.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:32
Bracing myself for argument. :(

I sympathize with Jeph, I hate writing arguments too. (I think he's said that more than once) ... at least between characters who are friends or in a relationship. Characters that hate each other on the other hand are kind of fun to have argue.

At least we know this is definitely going to have significance in that case.
Now we got through the "Dora's a bitch" portion of the debate. Now we're going to go through the "Marten's a jerk" part as Marten will inevitably have a thing or two to say.
Of course, there wills till be the "Dora is a bitch"ers. Oh yes. The fan will be distinctly unsanitary tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:41
I just hope this doesn't get completely illogical.

I mean, as much as Dora is probably blowing stuff out of proportion, I could see how what she's done so far is rational.

But if this erupts into a huge explosion over him turning a girl down, I'm gonna be a little sad.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:44
If it does turn out that way then maybe there won't be any "Marten is a jerk" people.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:47
At this point I'm pretty sure that Marten would end up with his foot in his mouth even if he took a vow of silence.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:52
Well it seems like he won't. Seeing as arguments generally involve both people arguing. I'd like to see Marten erupt a little bit, personally. I kind of imagined him first trying to steer around the argument with humor until, in his brain, the "avoid conflict" system goes
kerboingie
Visual representation and all. Then shit hits the fan. I'm sure Marty has repressed anxiety about Dora losing it over slights that could be pushed to the breaking point.

I could be wrong, but that's what I imagine would happen.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 19:56
The possibilities, while not endless, are many.  Dora could back up and realize what she's doing, as she has in the past, and make it up to Marten with much sex.  Marten could yell, cower, or walk out.  An Asteroid could hit the coffee shop.  

Or it might all be a little 30 second joke and something entirely new could start on Monday.  

I wonder if this particular set of jokes/panels is as story arc important in Jeph's mind as it is in the minds of we the over-analyzers :)

Also, panda.  For no reason.

I'm re-re-reading the archives.  I still find it stunning how much the strip developed from a pretty simple, 4 panel punchline into a complex, layered STORY with characterization and development and all the stuff I love in a good book.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 25 Jan 2009, 19:59
I'm not sure if I'd be angry or amused if Jeph actually completely dropped this storyline in the strip and was stringing us along.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 25 Jan 2009, 20:04
I'm not sure if I'd be angry or amused if Jeph actually completely dropped this storyline in the strip and was stringing us along.
He said in his twitter he hates writing arguments. I don't think he'd make himself write an argument just to troll us. :p
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 25 Jan 2009, 20:08
I hope jeph isn't turning into one of those pretentious artists.

People debate about the comic, because its interesting.
If it was a boring comic, no one wouldn't really care.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: nobo on 25 Jan 2009, 20:15
Dora blows up, Marten finally gets fed up with her insecurities and says something rash like "we need a break" and then goes drinking with Steve.

/Slaps 5 on table
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sieckanddestroy on 25 Jan 2009, 20:21
(at nobo) Simpsons did it.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 25 Jan 2009, 20:24
Dora blows up, Marten finally gets fed up with her insecurities and says something rash like "we need a break" and then goes drinking with Steve.
Assuming Steve didn't bump into Mr. Allosaurus. :(
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 20:26
I don't think Jeph is stringing us along so much as we are all putting a ton more thought and energy into analyzing the comic.  All he can do is create it.  In the act of reading it, we are doing at least a good half the work in interpreting.  Each of us brings our own personal set of filters, beliefs, past experiences, and whatever else we have into play when we read something.

As for being pretentious, Jeph seems pretty committed to pleasing his audience as best he can.  

I like getting into the meta aspects of the comic because it's a good time, not because I have big expectations from the creator.  He does his bit, I do mine.  If he does something I don't like, I stop reading -- no harm, no foul, no personal affront.  He'll always run the risk of pissing SOMEONE off, just because there are so many of us and only one of him.  
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Jan 2009, 20:59
Nah, I don't think Jeph would do an argument just to troll us.

What he would do is post a Pintsize comic instead of continuing the storyline. :lol:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 25 Jan 2009, 21:04
Nah, I don't think Jeph would do an argument just to troll us.

What he would do is post a Pintsize comic instead of continuing the storyline. :lol:

I'm good with that!  I miss Pintsize!

It's one of the sad things about comics -- popular characters take center stage and good but secondary characters fade off or vanish completely.  Like in the old Bloom County -- once upon a time there were all these adult characters like Cutter John and Bobbi Harlow and the General.  Even the kids -- Michael Binkley, Milo Bloom, Oliver Wendell Holmes -- were cool.  Then it became all talking animals .  *sigh*  Not that I mind talking animals per se, but it was good before they took over.

Yeah, I'm old.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ysth on 25 Jan 2009, 21:15
Characters that hate each other on the other hand are kind of fun to have argue.
Ah, but is it fun to have characters that hate each other in the first place?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kaitco on 25 Jan 2009, 21:29
Dora blows up, Marten finally gets fed up with her insecurities and says something rash like "we need a break" and then goes drinking with Steve.
Assuming Steve didn't bump into Mr. Allosaurus. :(
Or just drinking with Hannelore and then one thing turns into anoth-...no, that would never happen, but I think by Wednesday, or at most Friday, this will just be one more argument that leads to nowhere special. My hope is that finally we see a breakthrough in Dora's insecurities, but hope is fleeting.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tybalt on 25 Jan 2009, 21:47
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3676/64011056sc0.png)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ysth on 25 Jan 2009, 22:19
F5. F5. F5.
This isn't an argument, this is abuse. (http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode29.htm#11) (video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kaitco on 25 Jan 2009, 22:27
Marten is so adorkably malleable.

So, Dora has, indeed, carried the argument overboard, but Marten is calling her out on her insecurities. Perhaps we will get the Dora character development for which I have pining for ages...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LittleKey on 25 Jan 2009, 22:31
i like dora's expression in the 4th panel. and look at panels 5 and 6, has anyone noticed that marten does that stance a lot?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: 314 on 25 Jan 2009, 22:33
i really like the last panel.  dora's posture really shows her exasperation, and marten's line is so...marten.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heavyoak on 25 Jan 2009, 22:33
Using the year designation (wow, you learn way more than you can process on Wikipedia)  I am a Snake, which means

Snake (Yin, 2nd Trine, Fixed Element Fire): Deep thinker, wise, mystic, graceful, soft-spoken, sensual, creative, prudent, shrewd, ambitious, elegant, cautious, responsible, calm, strong, constant, purposeful. Can be loner, bad communicator, possessive, hedonistic, self-doubting, distrustful, mendacious.

Bwahahah!

Dragons are (Yang, 1st Trine, Fixed Element Wood): Magnanimous, stately, vigorous, strong, self-assured, proud, noble, direct, dignified, zealous, fiery, passionate, decisive, pioneering, ambitious, generous, loyal. Can be arrogant, imperious, tyrannical, demanding, eccentric, grandiloquent and extremely bombastic, prejudiced, dogmatic, over-bearing, violent, impetuous, brash.


Can we start obsessing early?  I'm bored. 

ok that really resembles me...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LunaCorn on 25 Jan 2009, 22:35
The facial expressions and the fact that Dora is mirrored in the background astounds me. Jeph, I envy your artistic skills and how they only improve more and more with time.  :wink: 8-)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: haikupoet on 25 Jan 2009, 22:36
I'm not entirely sure what to say except this is playing out (at least IMHO) like $GENERIC_HACK_COMEDIAN's fifth routine about "Wow, I just don't understands them wimmenfolk, so it's funny when she asks me if she's fat".

I don't know. Just never seemed like the sort of strip that would be poking around the script library at central casting. That said, I'm not really seeing Dora's side here; after all, Marten didn't consider it noteworthy -- it's happened twice in strip continuity, and from Marten's response to Tai it happens with some regularity -- so he wasn't lying as such.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 25 Jan 2009, 22:49
You know what I'd really like to see here?

Dora says, "'Freak Out?' The only thing I'm freaking out about is that you weren't honest with me!"

Marten stares at her for a moment. A beat passes. His eye involuntarily twitches.

Marten suddenly FLAILS his arms. "OH MY GOD! YOU CHANGED YOUR HAIR WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!"

Marten hunches over in an agonized, unnatural curl. "OH MAI GAW! MY FRIEND, WHO'S A CONSENTING, RATIONAL ADULT, HAD SEX WITH MY BROTHER, WHO'S A CONSENTING, RATIONAL ADULT!" He looks up at Dora. "THIS IS OBVIOUSLY MY BUSINESS!"

Finally, Marten collapses to his knees. "OMI GUH, MAI BF HAD A GIRL ASK HIM OUT AND HE TURNED HER DOWN AND DIDN'T COME RUNNING TO TELL ME!

OH MY GAW! UH MUH GUH! UHMIGUH!!!
"

Unable to take any more, Marten collapses to the floor, unconscious. Silently, Dora turns off the light, and goes to bed.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: HappyGrar on 25 Jan 2009, 22:52
I wouldn't quite call Faye rational, but the point still stands.  :-D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: jordinyc on 25 Jan 2009, 22:57
This is why I haven't perused getting back into a relationship. This saved me the trouble of testing the waters. No woman should ever have to perpetually abdicate or apologize for her free will to accommodate her man's feelings, and vice versa.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ndperfesser on 25 Jan 2009, 23:00
Poor Marten, he doesn't remember the standard reply in this situation. "Baby, I've got steak at home. I'm supposed to notice that I've been offered 'beanie-weenies'"?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: frogfactory on 25 Jan 2009, 23:02
But, really. What is with her hair in panel 3? (I assume I've missed the general 'wtf' did Dora do with her hair threads)

Edit: oh, it's a mirror.  It still looks pretty weird.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: weirdbeard on 25 Jan 2009, 23:05
Poor Marten, he doesn't remember the standard reply in this situation. "Baby, I've got steak at home. I'm supposed to notice that I've been offered 'beanie-weenies'"?
that is the funniest thing i've read in this forum in weeks. well played.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 25 Jan 2009, 23:32
Unable to take any more, Marten bellows a howl from the pits of the Underworld, lifts the couch and hurls it out the window
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: keikun496 on 25 Jan 2009, 23:59
Oh God, Dora's expression in the last panel is officially saved as a reactionary image.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: One Salient Oversight on 26 Jan 2009, 00:37
(First post here. Hope I'm welcome)

Dora's figure seems to be "filling out" a bit, which sort of occurs as women grow older. Marten should probably start growing a deeper chest and broader shoulders as time goes by and they get older (assuming they get older of course).
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Aggie on 26 Jan 2009, 01:29
Marten probably should have just slept with that chick. 

Okay, so I'm mostly kidding about that.  But I do think Dora needs to try complaining to Faye, who has no reason to go all spineless when she calls her out on blowing something stupid out of proportion and not realizing how good she has it.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: TheReaper on 26 Jan 2009, 03:05
(First post here. Hope I'm welcome)

Dora's figure seems to be "filling out" a bit, which sort of occurs as women grow older. Marten should probably start growing a deeper chest and broader shoulders as time goes by and they get older (assuming they get older of course).
Welcome! (I'm probably not the best person to do so, obviously, since I'm not really welcome myself, but whatever.)
Unable to take any more, Marten bellows a howl from the pits of the Underworld, lifts the couch and hurls it out the window
This is the best thing ever.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: lisavilisa on 26 Jan 2009, 03:47
Marten probably should have just slept with that chick. 

This reminds me of a Law and Order quote
" you got all the grief and none of the gravy".
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 26 Jan 2009, 04:18
Marten needs to remember that, when defending your own actions, the phrase, "Seemed like a good idea at the time." should NOT be part of the repetoire.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Jan 2009, 04:37
Okay, having dated an insecure woman, and being that I both flirt with and get hit on by girls a lot, I can see where Dora is coming from.  I was in Martin's position many times and it took me a long time to understand what it was that made my partner so upset.  Dora spells it out when she says that what upset her was the lack of honesty.

Going back to Friday's comic, I interpret her initial inquiry as to the nature of his day to be in a humorous/teasing way.  She thought it was cute and funny that the girl flirted with him.  However when he denied that anything happened and evaded the follow up questions, he wasn't being honest with her.  It was the lack of honesty (something that was in his control) that was upsetting, not the fact that the girl hit on him (something outside his control).

When you know the person you are dating has insecurity issues, deliberately hiding things from them is not the best course of action. 

In Marten's defense (and mine, in the past) he didn't think it was a big deal, but knowing Dora he should have.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 26 Jan 2009, 05:01
Unfortunately, Dora's character is showing that she may be a bit unstable and controlling. Question is, what happened to the other exes?

I bet when Martin goes out drinking, he will meet up the chick.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 05:17
Well ok, that wasn't as bad as I expected. I thought for sure Marten was going to snap. Then again, snapping isn't his thing... Didn't end in that comic though, so we may yet see the worst...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 26 Jan 2009, 05:57
Dora isn't blowing this as out of proportion as you all think. look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

especialy considering the whole *she stole him from faye* psychosematic brain fart mulling around in her head.

she's doing what just about any girl would do in her situation.

and as far as people not liking the more serious strips, get over it, its what makes a comic great. (not like 8-bit theatre which IMHO has started to go down the crapper.)


Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 06:04
Well yeah, she isn't going into all out RRRRAAAGE at least.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: DNS on 26 Jan 2009, 06:08
Well, as someone who has stolen their current miss from someone else, who stole her from another someone else, I fully expect to be putting up a fight at some point within the next year. But getting all angry or defensive or whatever you want to call it, certainly isn't a good way to keep Marten around; at least, I certainly don't plan on taking that route if/when it happens. She should chill, and try to remind marten why they are together, while realizing that it may not be as big a deal as she thinks.


Wait... did I just make a post to suggest what a fictional character should do in a comic strip?

...wow
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 26 Jan 2009, 06:21
Fictional shmictional, it's all about reflection.

Which is why I "sadly" don't consider this whole arc as anything particularly interesting unlike all the tldr folks. No offense of course.

Guess I'm just here for the anthro-PCs' shenanigans and teh phunny wrapped in indie chicks wrapped in awesome racks. >_>
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tiney on 26 Jan 2009, 06:56
Dora isn't blowing this as out of proportion as you all think. look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

especialy considering the whole *she stole him from faye* psychosematic brain fart mulling around in her head.

she's doing what just about any girl would do in her situation.

and as far as people not liking the more serious strips, get over it, its what makes a comic great. (not like 8-bit theatre which IMHO has started to go down the crapper.)

Dora reaps what she sows as far as I'm concerned.  I had a friend steal a guy from another girl and so she kept thinking some other girl would steal him from her.  Horrible foundation and yep, they broke up after a year of constant fighting.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: AnkhWL on 26 Jan 2009, 07:15
(this is not a response to anyone's post here, i just start out sentences really awkwardly)

So... Dora is showing the reaction Marten was hoping to avoid.  :roll:

Honestly, I DO get Dora's side of the argument, but she's taking it really a bit too far. I'm pretty jealous and insecure too at times, but chances are I would've only went as far as the Coffee of Doom comic and left it at that. Especially after seeing that the girl was clearly NOT going to persue him.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Blyss on 26 Jan 2009, 07:41
Okay - being a guy that's had an ex-girlfriend (yes, there's a reason she's an ex) set me up in just the way the Dora did to Marten here - I HATE reading this particular story arc.  It's a trap, plain and simple.  If she didn't like the answer she got, she should have asked her question differently - instead of setting her boyfriend up for failure.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 26 Jan 2009, 08:45
Ya know, whenever you do something to try to avoid stepping on your SO's buttons, you will inevitably  step on other buttons.  I do it with mine and vise verse, and the usual excuse to me is "I didn't want to upset you" with the unspoken follow up of "so I did something else that will upset you twice as much".  Of course, we've been button stomping each other for 15 years now.

That's the  thing about buttons -- everyone has 'em and someone who gets close to you is GOING to step on them.

sitnspin had a great synopsis of the strip -- the thing is not about Marten and the other girl, but about Marten concealing something (as he admits).  It only get worse when he tries to justify the concealment with "I was protecting you!".  And, looking back at the actual strip where he was asked out, it wasn't a case of "not important/forgot" since he remarks on it to Tai.  Plus, Marten has complained enough over time about his lack of action with the girls, so it wasn't an insignificant moment for him. 

That said, yeah, Dora is having herself a full out insecurity tango here, which, if she wasn't in the middle of it she would see and stop dancing.  Jeph's doing an EXCELLENT job of keeping this pretty real.


Also, one other thing that keeps coming up here -- that Dora "stole" Marten from Faye.  I did a little retrospective reading last night.  Faye did everything she could to push Marten and Dora together short of rent them a room and hand them the key.  Now yes, she did this out of her own conflicts, but the "stealing" thing was pretty much in Dora's head because she actually puts her friends before herself (in the way of really insecure people).  You cannot steal a person out of a relationship who wants to stay in the relationship, and in reality Marten and Faye didn't even have more than a platonic relationship, so there was no 'stealing'.  There was just a lot of insecurities dancing around.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=120

On a slightly more meta-note, Wow!  Jeph!  Way to build the dynamics!  A story without conflict is boring.  For conflict to be interesting, it has to take place between characters about whom the reader cares, and it has to have something worthwhile at stake.  Otherwise it won't work.  That some people around here are uncomfortable with what's going on is sad for them, but a good indication of how well Jeph has written the story.  Very cool!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: lisavilisa on 26 Jan 2009, 08:51
I think it's not that Dora stole Martin from Faye (which she didn't) but that she thinks she did. 
Ergo Dora feels guilty and thinks that Martin is steal-able.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 09:22
Ya know, whenever you do something to try to avoid stepping on your SO's buttons, you will inevitably  step on other buttons.
And from some of the responses on here, it seems authors(of webcomics or anything) will inevitably step on their audience's buttons, especially if they deal with realistic situations. :p

A story without conflict is boring.  For conflict to be interesting, it has to take place between characters about whom the reader cares, and it has to have something worthwhile at stake.  Otherwise it won't work.  That some people around here are uncomfortable with what's going on is sad for them, but a good indication of how well Jeph has written the story.  Very cool!
Too bad writing conflict between characters that like each other can make the writer uncomfortable too.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 26 Jan 2009, 09:51
Superkid, exactly right.  Especially in the author/audience situation, since the author has NO IDEA what buttons might be out there.

And the best writing is often that which makes the writer squirm.  I forget who authored the quote, but someone once said that writing is easy -- just open a vein and bleed on the page!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 26 Jan 2009, 10:24
I thought for sure Marten was going to snap.

You can't snap a mashed potato.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 10:36
I thought for sure Marten was going to snap.

You can't snap a mashed potato.
But you can heat them to where they start bubbling.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 26 Jan 2009, 11:58
At that point they become soft and collapse upon themselves.

At least he'll go well with gravy.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 26 Jan 2009, 11:59
At that point they become soft and collapse upon themselves.

At least he'll go well with gravy.
Mmmmmmm...Marten gravy.....
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 26 Jan 2009, 12:09
of course you would have to rush since Faye's appetite might lead her to pulverizing people.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 12:19
At that point they become soft and collapse upon themselves.

At least he'll go well with gravy.
Or dry out and crack. ;)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 26 Jan 2009, 12:22
I thought for sure Marten was going to snap.

You can't snap a mashed potato.

no, but you can blow em up
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 26 Jan 2009, 12:34
lol, all of this could be an elaborate plot by raven to get sven.

normally the plant would be A->B->C->D

Raven's plans go A->N->Q->C->W->A->D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Jimor on 26 Jan 2009, 12:49
Marten needs to remember that, when defending your own actions, the phrase, "Seemed like a good idea at the time." should NOT be part of the repetoire.

I bet ER doctors hear this a LOT.

So far, I'm in the "this feels realistic for the characters" camp, so I'm curious where it will lead.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: redd1 on 26 Jan 2009, 12:55
i wish marten would grow a fucking set........twice already when he went to dora with things that his poor pussy whipped mind has thought of as cheating she blew it off as nothing..and now when it really is nothing....now shes jelous and acting like its a big deal WTF?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: maeven on 26 Jan 2009, 13:41
I think Marten got defensive and evasive because Dora became aggressive. I think if Dora hadn't gotten angry and just asked him about it casually, Marten wouldn't have hesitated to tell her about it. People tend to clam up when they're under attack.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 26 Jan 2009, 14:07
lol, all of this could be an elaborate plot by raven to get sven.

normally the plant would be A->B->C->D

Raven's plans go A->N->Q->C->W->A->D

I still can't figure out what role her side plot of talking Wil into a cross country trip to win Penelope's heart plays in her grand scheme.
And although I've already seen through Lydia's involvement as Raven's spy I can't quite put my finger on what she hopes to get out of the whole gig.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: DanteShepherd on 26 Jan 2009, 14:24
You know, Jeph's comment on twitter last night (http://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/1147859917) about hating to write arguments made me realize that's one of the reasons why I try to never write dialogue.

Still, the comic was enjoyable nonetheless.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: lisavilisa on 26 Jan 2009, 15:09
i wish marten would grow a fucking set........twice already when he went to dora with things that his poor pussy whipped mind has thought of as cheating she blew it off as nothing..and now when it really is nothing....now shes jelous and acting like its a big deal WTF?

I know about Hanners boob, what was the second thing?  Tai piercing?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 26 Jan 2009, 16:23
Not bad, Dora reacted like I thought she would. Boy, Martin is digging himself deeper and deeper, though I think he didn't have to tell Dora what happened earlier in the library.

Dora's starting to remind me of my ex.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 16:51
I don't think Dora's insecurity is going to be "removed" in an arc as much as she and Marten will learn how to deal with it(that is if they don't break up). She could mellow out a little bit over time, where as Marten will learn to fortify his backbone* when necessary. (which can help him in other situations) If they can do that their relationship may well have passed a crucial test.

Learning how to deal with each other's flaws is a pretty crucial step in relationships that doesn't seem to be written often, so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

*Despite "growing balls" being a common expression for becoming more assertive or brave, the reality is thinking with your balls in matters not related to sex really doesn't help anything. :p
And frankly I thought Marten stood up for himself alright. Just in his own Marteny way.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: jordinyc on 26 Jan 2009, 17:00
look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

Then why isn't SHE honest with herself and him and just say she's affraid of loosing him in plain friggin english. What's he gonna say? "Bitch, pull yourself together and make me a sammich!" He's mister sensitive. There's no need to contextualize this in terms of who did what wrong. You only need to do that with INsensitive people. I'm not getting angry at Dora for feeling upset, but I just really really hope this doesn't turn the relationship into him having to choose between being obedient or dumping her. There are other options.

I hope it works out. I mean I don't mind if Marten becomes a punching bag, as long as he's not a doormat.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BigSol81 on 26 Jan 2009, 17:23
SERIOUSLY!?

She seriously expects Marten to inform her of every single incident when a girl flirts with him? Seriously?

SERIOUSLY!?

...WTF. Marten doesn't have the backbone for this, but I'd seriously tell Dora that if she didn't start trusting him more and stop being so insecure that she'd have to start looking for a new boyfriend. He needs to put his foot down.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 17:29
SERIOUSLY!?

She seriously expects Marten to inform her of every single incident when a girl flirts with him? Seriously?

SERIOUSLY!?

...WTF. Marten doesn't have the backbone for this, but I'd seriously tell Dora that if she didn't start trusting him more and stop being so insecure that she'd have to start looking for a new boyfriend. He needs to put his foot down.
If she "asks" about it. That's what she said. :p
Marten found it just as crazy before she said that. "I don't expect you to tell me every time one of your customers flirts with you."

I'm not justifying Dora's behavior, I'm just saying. As I said before, I think Marty's going to learn to put his foot down when he has to as their relationship goes on(if it survives). He's showing signs of approaching it.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Ipskaya on 26 Jan 2009, 18:54
Going back to Friday's comic, I interpret her initial inquiry as to the nature of his day to be in a humorous/teasing way.  She thought it was cute and funny that the girl flirted with him.
Which is why she took out a sword when she found out that girl asked Marten out...

Oh, and yay, new comic! It's nice to see Marten standing up for himself.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 26 Jan 2009, 19:04
Aah, now see? I was right. He fortified his backbone. :)

... you know who we haven't seen in a while? Mieville. That got me wondering... maybe an Allosaurus didn't eat Steve... MIEVILLE DID.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: jodokast34 on 26 Jan 2009, 19:35
"I'll be in the bedroom petting the cat..."

Make-up sex on its way.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Jeff7 on 26 Jan 2009, 19:36
Oh no, not her cat!
His solution is always to kill someone, isn't it?


Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 26 Jan 2009, 19:38
I so freaking love this strip!!!!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Blackcat Moebius on 26 Jan 2009, 19:43
Four panels into the strip.... reaction:  "Oh great, Jeph's having their argument fizzle.  Again."

Scroll down page to see fifth panel... *blink* *blink*  Well played, Mr. Jacques, well played.  See you in twenty-four.  :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: nickdwaters on 26 Jan 2009, 19:55
Really well done strip!  I started reading it just a few weeks ago and wonder why it hasn't received more widespread readership.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: absofflab on 26 Jan 2009, 20:28
...Marten's...spine...growing...

Yes!

Progress is being made.  This is a good thing.  Very slowly but surely, Marten's asserting himself when people treat him unfairly.  I look very forward to the day when he refuses outright to put up with bullshit the second it's heaped on him.

The day of course, will roughly be at the same time as the heat death of the universe.   :-P
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 26 Jan 2009, 20:46
The day of course, will roughly be at the same time as the heat death of the universe.   :-P

...So wait....Heat death... carry the two...

I either need a lot more ice, or a lot less.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Darke on 26 Jan 2009, 20:47
Really well done strip!  I started reading it just a few weeks ago and wonder why it hasn't received more widespread readership.
You'll probably slowly discover that, actually, it has. You just need to know what kind of people to ask.

Today's strip is good. Marten refusing to let them stay in passive-agressive land is a bold (and good) move. Most people are happy just to have the argument over with and will go about their business and be quietly resentful towards their significant other for the next few days.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 26 Jan 2009, 21:03
I think it's not that Dora stole Martin from Faye (which she didn't) but that she thinks she did. 
Ergo Dora feels guilty and thinks that Martin is steal-able.
To quote a rather one-dimensional character from my childhood, "Exactimundo." Like most people, fear is at the bottom of Dora's insecurity. A great deal of fear, I suspect.

Marten handled thing superbly. Held his ground without trying to 'win' and stopped things when he found himself doing that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kaitco on 26 Jan 2009, 21:05
Four panels into the strip.... reaction:  "Oh great, Jeph's having their argument fizzle.  Again."

Scroll down page to see fifth panel... *blink* *blink*  Well played, Mr. Jacques, well played.  See you in twenty-four.  :wink: :laugh:

My exact reaction. I want to get all excited right now and let some hope shine through my pessimistic exterior, but I just cannot bring myself to do it. This is going to blow over into nothing. I like the fact that Marten is not going to take Dora's "stuff" anymore and, while a part of me has always wanted to see Faye and Marten hook-up, I would really hate it if this is how Dora and Marten break up with each other. So, now the pessimism is turning into its own sort of optimism...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Econoclast on 26 Jan 2009, 21:12
I wish they'd just break up already.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: HappyGrar on 26 Jan 2009, 21:14
I think we all know where "I'll be in the bedroom petting the cat" is leading.  :evil:

My vote is the next comic will have them laying in bed together, all post-coital and passing a joint back and forth.

"Dude, what were we even arguing about?"
"...fuck, I can't remember. Can I have another hit?"

Then Dora will call up Hanners and offer her $200 to bring them cookies, and all will be well in QC-land.

Honestly, though, Marten handles these things amazingly well. He knows when they're getting too pissed to keep on with a subject, and can deflect the anger by reminding his girlfriend that they're both in the wrong and annoyed and need a minute. I mean, how many people in real life can pull that off? He's almost...TOO...perfect.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 26 Jan 2009, 21:36
This has two outcomes

1) It's leading to the brealup of Mardora.

2) Their relationship will move to a new level.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 26 Jan 2009, 21:53
look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

Then why isn't SHE honest with herself and him and just say she's affraid of loosing him in plain friggin english. What's he gonna say? "Bitch, pull yourself together and make me a sammich!" He's mister sensitive. There's no need to contextualize this in terms of who did what wrong. You only need to do that with INsensitive people. I'm not getting angry at Dora for feeling upset, but I just really really hope this doesn't turn the relationship into him having to choose between being obedient or dumping her. There are other options.

I hope it works out. I mean I don't mind if Marten becomes a punching bag, as long as he's not a doormat.

because she's a woman..... duh

and for all you haters wanting the break up of Dora and Marten i say

SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! how can you root for the destruction of a beautiful and loving couple? i wish i could be as lucky as Marten and find a gal who complimented my personality as well as Dora does his, not to mention being a total freak in the sack!

they won't breakup. I can't even let myself think they will. we all know deep down we want to see what kind of fucked up wedding Dora and Marten are gonna think up. Faye as maid of honor. Sven or Jimbo as bestman! pintsize/winslow as the ring bearer/flowerbot some totally random indie band at the reception.

we all know we want to see it
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LizziL on 26 Jan 2009, 23:05
I want them to break up if only so the plot can move forward.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: geffyb on 26 Jan 2009, 23:08
look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

Then why isn't SHE honest with herself and him and just say she's affraid of loosing him in plain friggin english. What's he gonna say? "Bitch, pull yourself together and make me a sammich!" He's mister sensitive. There's no need to contextualize this in terms of who did what wrong. You only need to do that with INsensitive people. I'm not getting angry at Dora for feeling upset, but I just really really hope this doesn't turn the relationship into him having to choose between being obedient or dumping her. There are other options.

I hope it works out. I mean I don't mind if Marten becomes a punching bag, as long as he's not a doormat.

because she's a woman..... duh

and for all you haters wanting the break up of Dora and Marten i say

SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! how can you root for the destruction of a beautiful and loving couple? i wish i could be as lucky as Marten and find a gal who complimented my personality as well as Dora does his, not to mention being a total freak in the sack!

they won't breakup. I can't even let myself think they will. we all know deep down we want to see what kind of fucked up wedding Dora and Marten are gonna think up. Faye as maid of honor. Sven or Jimbo as bestman! pintsize/winslow as the ring bearer/flowerbot some totally random indie band at the reception.

we all know we want to see it

Um, I for one don't want to fathom what Faye will be experiencing at that wedding, can you say train wreck?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: appleshampooid on 26 Jan 2009, 23:22
I fear for Mieville's safety.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Saral on 26 Jan 2009, 23:24
I wish they'd just break up already.

Me too. Unless Dora wants to change, improvements not going to happen. And it doesn't look like Dora does - she wants Marten to change. The choice at the moment is either Marten breaks up or become more of a doormat than he was with Faye. yet at the early point in the relationship it did look like Dora was better. Now the honeymoon is over it certainly looks like Faye was the better match, despite her inabilty to be more than a friend. For at least she was that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 27 Jan 2009, 00:06
i think you guys are all wrong about Dora.

Dora is a sweet kind and caring young woman. granted she does have her "quirks" but we don't know if we find out something shocking about her past like we did with Faye.

We all thought Faye was a sassy bitch at the begin. And know we know what makes her a sassy bitch, and now we love her for it. Maybe the same will be done with Dora. Maybe we find out something about her past, and who knows, maybe we will love her for her faults too.

As for Faye's experience at the wedding, i would hope by then she would be adjusted enough to handle it....... untill the open bar that is.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 27 Jan 2009, 00:59
Marten break up with Dora? You gotta be kidding me. This is the guy who followed a girl across country, remember? Who only gave up on Faye after she out and out told him not to. In other words, Marten's in it for the long haul, which is why he was so cautious in getting anything started with either Faye or Dora.

My guess would be Dora's not used to this. Remember her saying that each day she was surprised things were still going well between them? My guess is that, consciously or unconsciously, she's now looking for what she thinks is the inevitable break-up, trying to anticipate it so as to minimize the pain. My guess is that she's going to keep doing this until someone besides Marten gives her a wake-up call. Which, weirdly enough, may come from…

Nope, I won't say it, lest I jinx it.

Anyway, if I'm correct, then this last episode of part of something that's a bit of a habit for Dora and something outside that habit—a third party—is going to have to point that out to her.

Who will it be?

Unfortunately for those who want a quick resolve, it's probably going to take two or three more incidents for that person to notice, so brace yourself.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 27 Jan 2009, 01:03
We all thought Faye was a sassy bitch at the begin. And know we know what makes her a sassy bitch, and now we love her for it. Maybe the same will be done with Dora. Maybe we find out something about her past, and who knows, maybe we will love her for her faults too.

Faye made an effort to change after revealing her past. Dora has not. She wants Marten to change, but she's fine with being all VE MUSS HAFF KONTROL.


Personally, I think the most telling part is that people would be screaming bloody murder if a guy was doing what Dora does to his girlfriend.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Jan 2009, 01:15
Marten's called a truce, but they're still both pissed off.  Intellectually, they may both see where they did it wrong (in practice if not in theory); but this is about feelings, and I would expect this sort of stand-off to take at least a couple of days (in real time) to fade so that normality can return to the relationship, and longer to heal.  Even make-up sex doesn't really shortcut that process.  Realistically, we should see them tiptoeing around each other for a while.

Am I talking from experience?  Well, that's for me to know,...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Malek on 27 Jan 2009, 02:05
I'm just happy that Dora isnt bringing the sword into this.

Yay Martin!
Yay Dora!
Yay Somebody else!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: SuperSUGA on 27 Jan 2009, 02:37
Hmm, this this comic always look like this?

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 27 Jan 2009, 02:42
Hmm, this this comic always look like this?

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135

Yeah, that was April 1.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: keikun496 on 27 Jan 2009, 03:39
Brilliant! A Marten facepalm of epic proportions!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: MegaLexi on 27 Jan 2009, 04:01
That sound, ladies and gents, is one of the fabled Testicles of Marten dropping. This is right next to a Barbara Walters interview with Bigfoot in rarity, and we have all witnessed it.  :-D

In all seriousness, though, good on him for actually both admitting some fault and standing up for himself at the same time.

vvvGreat, now I have Evil Woman by Electric Light Orchestra stuck in my head, you suck.vvv
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kelamin on 27 Jan 2009, 04:12
Nope sorry all, this is woman evil at it's finest, Dora knew something was going on, pointedly asked about it, and because he didn't instantly fess up, she pounced on him like a tiger that's been starved for weeks. Marten may have not brought it up instantly but he was never given a chance to do so in his own time, and with that Dora has proceeded to guilt the hell out of him so he thinks it's part his fault and not her being insecure.

Dora seems to be constantly surprised that things haven't gone pear shaped and at this point it somewhat looks like she's subconsciously trying to create a problem when none really exists.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 05:03
He's trying to smooth over the waters and she is just bitching. Unfortunately this is what Martin got for not laying ground rules.

Looks like he might just head home. Its not like he depending on Dora for a place to stay. THEN she would have to worry about faye/martin sloppy makeouts. har har

Looks like Breakup reef is just over the horizon.


Treacherous waters indeed!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BananaCup on 27 Jan 2009, 05:21
This relationship drama isn't any fun to read, it's just depressing me...
I'm hoping either they break up or things improve, because at the moment it is a low point, even for a drama.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 27 Jan 2009, 05:26
Everything will be ruined forever, that much should be clear.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 27 Jan 2009, 05:31
Hmm, this this comic always look like this?

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135

Yeah, that was April 1.

I thought that was Cinco De Mustache.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: EllJayusMaximus on 27 Jan 2009, 05:54
In all seriousness, though, good on him for actually both admitting some fault and standing up for himself at the same time.

Well, I suppose it's a first step, but it must be emphasized that in a healthy relationship Marten hasn't done anything for which he needs to apologize; he's just not mature or self-confident enough to realize that. Nor, however, did the poor (dead?) girl from the library do anything more than a simple mistake: the only thing she really damaged was her own pride. The only saving grace in this whole storyline is the sword-look on Dora's face-- and that's feeling like a terribly long time ago...

Am I the only one that thought the whole relationship was "forced" in the first place? Dora had a crush on Marten, they'd only seen each other a handful of times, and he's ended up following his wang into a proverbial cold bowl of Froot Loops.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: justlikeaphoto on 27 Jan 2009, 06:09
This whole arc has bummed me out hardcore.  At first I found it really funny but then I started to notice the similarities with stuff that happened to me in my own life and it's really disheartening.  I'm not trying to throw out a generalization but a lot of women do exactly what Dora is (and usually for exactly the same reason: insecurity) and it isn't a fun situation to deal with.  Hopefully this all works out because I really like Marten and Dora as a couple but I guess only time will tell.

On the upside though I was glad to see Marten finally stand up for himself.  Fingers crossed that this isn't headed for some horrible disaster.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: DinosGoLauRAWR on 27 Jan 2009, 06:25
I know where Dora is coming from. Its not that I agree she is right but when your feelings get hurt your defense mechanism kicks in. Rather than being hurt worse you become petty and stubborn because you feel wronged even if that isn't really true. She just got her pride injured and her insecurities attacked by the idea that another girl was interested in her boyfriend. So anyone who thinks she is being a bitch just think about that and remember she is only human.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sporky800 on 27 Jan 2009, 06:28
Boo, this is sucky.  I was never a fan of Marten/Dora. The arguing is kinda getting annoying.  I want happier times again! 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BryanP on 27 Jan 2009, 06:35
I'm rather enjoying this myself.  I'm guessing most of the pissed off people have never been married.

Guess what?  Sometimes you're going to do stupid things.  Sometimes the other person does stupid things.  You get pissed off.  You talk through it.  Sometimes you have to say "I love you, but I'm pissed and need to go be annoyed at you for a while." 

It doesn't mean you break up or get divorced.  If you think it does then you have unrealistic expectations of love.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: snubnose on 27 Jan 2009, 06:46
It doesn't mean you break up or get divorced.  If you think it does then you have unrealistic expectations of love.
Ever checked the divorce ratings ? Thats why they are so high. People dont realize that the next marriage will just be like this one, they will only have to learn that lesson again.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: NightOfTheLepus on 27 Jan 2009, 07:03
is Marten's head getting larger?  it looks disproportionately large in panel 1 (even for a style of illustration).

that was my contribution to the discussion.   enlightening, i know.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Blyss on 27 Jan 2009, 07:14
Congrats to Marten for pointing out the bullshit test.  Very happy with that.  Moving on....
 :-D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 27 Jan 2009, 08:20
Atleast Dora and Martin realized that each other made a mistake, usually when people on both sides realize this, they either take a few hours break and move on, or realize this will continue for the rest of the relationship and break off due to them not wanting to handle this.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 08:29
dora hasn't realized shit apparently.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 27 Jan 2009, 08:35
Marten break up with Dora? You gotta be kidding me. This is the guy who followed a girl across country, remember? Who only gave up on Faye after she out and out told him not to. In other words, Marten's in it for the long haul, which is why he was so cautious in getting anything started with either Faye or Dora.

My guess would be Dora's not used to this. Remember her saying that each day she was surprised things were still going well between them? My guess is that, consciously or unconsciously, she's now looking for what she thinks is the inevitable break-up, trying to anticipate it so as to minimize the pain. My guess is that she's going to keep doing this until someone besides Marten gives her a wake-up call. Which, weirdly enough, may come from…

Nope, I won't say it, lest I jinx it.

Anyway, if I'm correct, then this last episode of part of something that's a bit of a habit for Dora and something outside that habit—a third party—is going to have to point that out to her.

Who will it be?

Unfortunately for those who want a quick resolve, it's probably going to take two or three more incidents for that person to notice, so brace yourself.


Oh, Raoullefere,  that sounds about right.  We've never really gone deep into the Mind of the Dora, but we know she both knows she's insecure and is still prey to those insecurities.  She's also very self-sacrificing -- she beat herself up for DAYS and days over getting with Marten.  She didn't do anything wrong there, but she still punished herself for it.   She worked quite hard to help Faye and Marten get something going, but really, how much self sacrifice and putting others first does a woman have to do?  

As for now?  Yeah, until someone points out that she's acting on the promptings of inner demons, she'll keep making the same mistake.   I wonder if she's been reading those fucking women's magazines articles like "10 signs your guys is wandering", "5 ways to tell if your man is cheating", "11 signals you've lost him".  Those damn things are poison.  If her inner demon is starting to nag "Hey, this was about the point where the guy you sooo loved started with his 3rd bit on the side -- remember the bladder infections?" or "Wait, it's been X months, the relationships always fall apart about now" then she's going to start looking for what she missed before.

I wish we had a little more context on her past, though that check list she gave to Marten when they got together sort of reveals a bit.

Oh, and for those who use the"Marten didn't bitch about Dora's hair" argument -- that was covered earlier.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618

so it wasn't Dora being all "I can do what I want and he has to obey me".  She WAS concerned and he cleared it.


Ah, the joy of nitpicking, over analyzing, and taking things too personally!  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 09:41
She probably read those magazines. Any woman who requires those rags to make an opinion or decision, really don't deserve happiness.

She is also pretty self destructive when it comes to relationships. Actually she thought at one point that the relationship would have gone down in flames.

what does THAT tell you?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kaitco on 27 Jan 2009, 10:05
She probably read those magazines. Any woman who requires those rags to make an opinion or decision, really don't deserve happiness.

She is also pretty self destructive when it comes to relationships. Actually she thought at one point that the relationship would have gone down in flames.

what does THAT tell you?

I think you are giving Dora a little less credit than she is due. I doubt she actually reads magazines that would have "10 signs your guys is wandering" as a serious article and I am certain she was just waving around a little sarcasm when she told Marten that she did not think they would last. Yes, she is being a bit of bitch right now, but I still say it is all about her unrevealed insecurities than being of Dora having an IQ less 110.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: SleeperCylon on 27 Jan 2009, 10:17
Dora's reaction here is kind of ridiculous.

WHO would ever see being asked out by some random woman, saying no, and then probably never seeing her again as a significant event in their day?  Is Dora supposed to submit a typed report to Marten whenever some customer flirts with her?

I know Dora like, transfers her inferiority complex with Sven to every other male and subconsciously thinks Marten is going to leave her for someone else, but now she's trying to trap Marten and guilt him for acting normally.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 27 Jan 2009, 10:23
Dora's reaction here is kind of ridiculous.

WHO would ever see being asked out by some random woman, saying no, and then probably never seeing her again as a significant event in their day?

I would. like Marten I never get asked out, so I would probably see it as significant. I wouldn't tell my significant other about it right off, because i would want the right time to present itself. Both are acting like normal people would act

they won't break up over this
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Econoclast on 27 Jan 2009, 10:24
I still don't see why he's apologizing. He didn't do anything wrong. The only reason she's continuing to be upset is he fed into her insecurities by not being a man in the first place. What Marten should have done when she flipped out was be cool and say, "Oh, that. Yeah -- some chick at the library tried to pick me up today. Weird, huh?"

It's all about attitude. 9 times out of 10, a chick doesn't even care what you have to say, only how you say it.

Marten needs to start taking lessons from Sven. He's the only guy who seems to know what he's doing.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: SleeperCylon on 27 Jan 2009, 10:25
Eh, I like Dora.  I think she goes well with Marten, better than Faye would have at least.  She just needs to stop letting her abandonment anxiety do her thinking for her.

If I was in a committed relationship with a woman I loved, other random women's attempts to go out with me wouldn't really register very much to me unless they persisted after finding out I was seeing someone.

And Sven may know how to deal with casual relationships perfectly, but if he were in an actual committed relationship he'd be totally lost.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: La on 27 Jan 2009, 10:31
because she's a woman..... duh

and for all you haters wanting the break up of Dora and Marten i say

SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! how can you root for the destruction of a beautiful and loving couple? i wish i could be as lucky as Marten and find a gal who complimented my personality as well as Dora does his, not to mention being a total freak in the sack!

they won't breakup. I can't even let myself think they will. we all know deep down we want to see what kind of fucked up wedding Dora and Marten are gonna think up. Faye as maid of honor. Sven or Jimbo as bestman! pintsize/winslow as the ring bearer/flowerbot some totally random indie band at the reception.

we all know we want to see it

Is this post kidding? Please tell me this post is a joke. **reads other posts by bush** Ooookay, nevermind. obviously not joking.

Wow.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 27 Jan 2009, 10:34
I still don't see why he's apologizing. He didn't do anything wrong. The only reason she's continuing to be upset is he fed into her insecurities by not being a man in the first place. What Marten should have done when she flipped out was be cool and say, "Oh, that. Yeah -- some chick at the library tried to pick me up today. Weird, huh?"

It's all about attitude. 9 times out of 10, a chick doesn't even care what you have to say, only how you say it.

Marten needs to start taking lessons from Sven. He's the only guy who seems to know what he's doing.
Sven doesn't play for keeps. He doesn't have experience in that department. :p

Marten didn't do anything wrong, but his apologizing for his perceived wrong doings was a good way to get the argument to cool down. When you argue with your SO, being the "winner" is the last thing you want to do.

Like somebody said earlier, couples piss each other off every now and again for stupid reasons. Learning to deal with that when it happens, and with each other's flaws, is pretty important.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Econoclast on 27 Jan 2009, 10:48
You'd be surprised how well knowledge of casual relationships translates over to long-term ones. If you're the kind of guy who isn't insecure, who isn't afraid of losing his significant other, and who doesn't feed into emotional nonsense when it's clearly an attempt to cause drama, you can be damn certain that you're gonna keep whoever you're with. Guys like that exist as a challenge, keeping the relationship perpetually interesting without falling into the pitfalls of making up drama. Then, the only problems they have to face are real ones, instead of stupid bullshit ala Marten and Dora's little fights.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 27 Jan 2009, 11:00
Bwahaha!  Bwahahahah!  Bwhahahaahaahaah!

Oh ye gods and little fishes that was a good one!  EXCELLENT sarcasm!  5 gold stars!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 27 Jan 2009, 11:59
Econoclast - belittling your SO's concerns, even if they aren't necessarily rational is no way to actually be able to work through an argument.  When the SO is angry, saying, "This is BS - I didn't think that someone hitting on me was important enough for me to tell you." especially if she is insecure.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: QuarterFire on 27 Jan 2009, 12:04
look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

Then why isn't SHE honest with herself and him and just say she's affraid of loosing him in plain friggin english. What's he gonna say? "Bitch, pull yourself together and make me a sammich!" He's mister sensitive. There's no need to contextualize this in terms of who did what wrong. You only need to do that with INsensitive people. I'm not getting angry at Dora for feeling upset, but I just really really hope this doesn't turn the relationship into him having to choose between being obedient or dumping her. There are other options.

I hope it works out. I mean I don't mind if Marten becomes a punching bag, as long as he's not a doormat.

because she's a woman..... duh

and for all you haters wanting the break up of Dora and Marten i say

SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! how can you root for the destruction of a beautiful and loving couple? i wish i could be as lucky as Marten and find a gal who complimented my personality as well as Dora does his, not to mention being a total freak in the sack!

they won't breakup. I can't even let myself think they will. we all know deep down we want to see what kind of fucked up wedding Dora and Marten are gonna think up. Faye as maid of honor. Sven or Jimbo as bestman! pintsize/winslow as the ring bearer/flowerbot some totally random indie band at the reception.

we all know we want to see it

Yeah, you ungrateful little turds!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 12:29
Catastrophe makes for better drama. Let the breakups commence.

Somewhere in the distance, the sound of a broadsword sharpening can be heard.............
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 27 Jan 2009, 14:21
I always liked Marten and Dora together, and I don't see them breaking up over something like this, even if Dora is a tad insecure.  I just can't visualize it, with both of them being rational and thinking people. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: improbability driver on 27 Jan 2009, 14:21
God, I never thought I'd be itching to get back to OMG HANNERS LOOK AT HER WEAR HATS SO CUUUUUTE. I enjoy the occasional foray into drama, but somehow when it's a never ending loop of Dora being all "I WAS GROSS IN HIGH SCHOOL" and Marten fruitlessly defending himself, I simply do no want at all.

Okay and contrary to how this sounds I actually love Dora and Hanners with all my heart (oh lawd, defending my love of comic characters, what has my life come to), but there comes a time when the horse is just dead.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 27 Jan 2009, 15:16
Okay and contrary to how this sounds I actually love Dora and Hanners with all my heart (oh lawd, defending my love of comic characters, what has my life come to), but there comes a time when the horse is just dead.


We could nit pick continuity errors.  Still in the throes of a hellacious headcold, I've been traipsing through the archives and discovered at least one.

(insert suspense building music here)

When introduced, Sven did not like coffee!

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=328

Oh!  Horrors! 

...

You know, as much as my nitpicky soul really enjoys this, I just don't have the energy between coughing spells to work up a good snark about this.  Have at.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LizziL on 27 Jan 2009, 16:05
We've covered that.
I believe the verdict was that 'people change'.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 27 Jan 2009, 16:29
Yeah, I was more or less settling on that, considering my once deep hatred of sour cream and my now lack of tolerance for fluffernutter ANYTHING.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: seacore on 27 Jan 2009, 16:50
Write Dora off. That's my solution.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: themacnut on 27 Jan 2009, 17:06
If you're the kind of guy who isn't insecure, who isn't afraid of losing his significant other,....

In other words, the kind of guy who's not Human, or probably doesn't care all that much about his SO. Unfortunately Vulcans are a fictitious race....

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: improbability driver on 27 Jan 2009, 17:13
We could nit pick continuity errors.  Still in the throes of a hellacious headcold, I've been traipsing through the archives and discovered at least one.

(insert suspense building music here)

When introduced, Sven did not like coffee!

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=328

Oh!  Horrors! 

...

You know, as much as my nitpicky soul really enjoys this, I just don't have the energy between coughing spells to work up a good snark about this.  Have at.

I feel as if there has been a communication failure here, because I wasn't talking about continuity errors in the slightest. It was more to do with my finding Dora and Hanners annoying on occasion, but loving them anyway. But, uh, I guess I agree that there are in fact a few QC continuity errors and life has surprisingly not ended.

Oh well, moving on. In other news, comics! I hear they are pretty good.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 27 Jan 2009, 17:29

I feel as if there has been a communication failure here, because I wasn't talking about continuity errors in the slightest. It was more to do with my finding Dora and Hanners annoying on occasion, but loving them anyway. But, uh, I guess I agree that there are in fact a few QC continuity errors and life has surprisingly not ended.

Oh well, moving on. In other news, comics! I hear they are pretty good.

Um, why would you assume my comment had anything to do with your comment? 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 27 Jan 2009, 17:31
In other words, the kind of guy who's not Human, or probably doesn't care all that much about his SO. Unfortunately Vulcans are a fictitious race....

Sociopaths aren't! :-D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 27 Jan 2009, 17:52
I kinda want them to break up
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LeGrande on 27 Jan 2009, 18:59
look at her face in the 4th panel, she's scared. she doesnt want to lose marten.

Then why isn't SHE honest with herself and him and just say she's affraid of loosing him in plain friggin english. What's he gonna say? "Bitch, pull yourself together and make me a sammich!" He's mister sensitive. There's no need to contextualize this in terms of who did what wrong. You only need to do that with INsensitive people. I'm not getting angry at Dora for feeling upset, but I just really really hope this doesn't turn the relationship into him having to choose between being obedient or dumping her. There are other options.

I hope it works out. I mean I don't mind if Marten becomes a punching bag, as long as he's not a doormat.

because she's a woman..... duh

and for all you haters wanting the break up of Dora and Marten i say

SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! how can you root for the destruction of a beautiful and loving couple? i wish i could be as lucky as Marten and find a gal who complimented my personality as well as Dora does his, not to mention being a total freak in the sack!

they won't breakup. I can't even let myself think they will. we all know deep down we want to see what kind of fucked up wedding Dora and Marten are gonna think up. Faye as maid of honor. Sven or Jimbo as bestman! pintsize/winslow as the ring bearer/flowerbot some totally random indie band at the reception.

we all know we want to see it

Um, I for one don't want to fathom what Faye will be experiencing at that wedding, can you say train wreck?

I think such an event might be the shark-jumping moment for QC.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 27 Jan 2009, 19:02
Um, I for one don't want to fathom what Faye will be experiencing at that wedding, can you say train wreck?

I think such an event might be the shark-jumping moment for QC.

Faye ramps the wedding on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 19:15
At which point the robots decide its time to take over.

They unleash their ultimate creation:
Dinosaurs with frikkin lasers
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7538/desktopbg31024x76813510zp4.jpg)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: La on 27 Jan 2009, 19:31
Faye ramps the wedding on a motorcycle.

**flashes back to watching Days of Our Lives as a kid**

Although I chuckled at tonight's strip, I really hope it is the last we see of this chick and Jeph moves on to a brand new story arc tomorrow. End it there without the drawn out denouement. Dora and Marten made up, there is nothing else to say that won't end up in more drama-riffic strips. Let's hop to someone else. Pleeeeeease.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Jan 2009, 19:32
A bit... sitcom-ish. Still funny, but...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 27 Jan 2009, 19:33
Oh HAH!  :-D
This is delicious!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: TheReaper on 27 Jan 2009, 19:42
Jeph certainly enjoys making his characters suffer like hell.
I do enjoy the way they all just dropped what they were holding in the last panel, though.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ThePrettyMonster on 27 Jan 2009, 19:44
oh my, that was hilarious. the "sitcom-y" comment makes sense tho, i could see this happening on television, friends or something. Still I actually lol'd it was fantastic
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kgbisouttogetme on 27 Jan 2009, 19:47
.... i thought dora beheaded that girl hahaha

At which point the robots decide its time to take over.

They unleash their ultimate creation:
Dinosaurs with frikkin lasers
(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7538/desktopbg31024x76813510zp4.jpg)

ummmm... just to let you know dinosaurs and humans didnt live at the same time
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 27 Jan 2009, 19:49
Jeph!!!


You bastard!!!!!


FOCAROFLMAO
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LittleKey on 27 Jan 2009, 19:57
omg, this is the first time i've laughed out loud at a qc strip in quite a while. jeph jacques, i applaud you.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ThunderPower on 27 Jan 2009, 19:57
Fuck. Jeph, you're paying the hospital bill to get my lungs replaced.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 27 Jan 2009, 19:58
ummmm... just to let you know dinosaurs and humans didnt live at the same time
...THAT'S the biggest inaccuracy you can find in that picture?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Obaten on 27 Jan 2009, 19:59
today's comic made me go "awwwwwww =("
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: HappyGrar on 27 Jan 2009, 20:01
That poor, poor girl.  :evil: I love their collective expressions.

Marten seems more shocked than Dora though. And the girl's expression is very reminiscent of Hannelore's shamegasm-face:

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1187
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: redheadstepchild on 27 Jan 2009, 20:05
As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 27 Jan 2009, 20:09
ummmm... just to let you know dinosaurs and humans didnt live at the same time
...THAT'S the biggest inaccuracy you can find in that picture?

ohhhhh, the burn!
lol
Well duh I know that. However I think pintsize will once again try to prove us wrong.

Today's comic was awesome!
Jeph I salute you!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 27 Jan 2009, 20:20
w00t. I knew she'd be back! :D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: lisavilisa on 27 Jan 2009, 20:20
As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

Staying together is stagnation?  I can see how it may make the plot seem monotenous, but I don't see how it's a sign their relationship is going getting old.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sporky800 on 27 Jan 2009, 20:27
Hehe, ok, so the return of that chick was kinda predictable.  But still, pretty damn funny.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: GnarlsBroccoli on 27 Jan 2009, 20:28
Totally had the 4th panel called after the line "What are the odds?"

Awesome.  First comic to make me lol in a while.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: CraftyBrat on 27 Jan 2009, 20:29
Ah, the glory of living in small college towns...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 27 Jan 2009, 20:31
Funniest strip in months!

Don't worry folks, she wasn't hit by a bus and discombobulated--she only wishes that would happen. Right now.

If she's a clearer thinker, of course, she wishes the bus would mow down Marten and Dora.

And kgbisouttogetme, I can't begin to describe how pissed I was that those toys came out when I was too old for anyone to give some of them to me, and too young to have the nerve to buy them for myself. Truly, childhood is wasted on children.


Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Artist on 27 Jan 2009, 20:33
Offically one of the funniest things I have ever read/seen!  Kudos!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Antosha on 27 Jan 2009, 20:35
HEE! Funny, funny. Poor.... whatever her name is!

Of course, it's just as well that Marten didn't take her up on her date invite; not only would Marten be dead (never dis a woman who owns a broadsword), but the young lady herself would have had to work.  :lol:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: celticgeek on 27 Jan 2009, 20:38
Want to get away???   Southwest Airlines...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: carlodrum on 27 Jan 2009, 20:43
As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

That's why Jeph is using what-are-the-odds girl to slowly introduce a threesome.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: St.Clair on 27 Jan 2009, 20:58
Oh my God, that poor girl.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: kaitco on 27 Jan 2009, 21:05
Tonight's comic made me literally laugh out loud...
Want to get away???   Southwest Airlines...
...and that made me almost wet myself.  :lol:

I have mixed feelings about this strip though. I was really, really hoping for some Dora insights coming into focus for a moment the way we got to see things with Faye, so either one of two things is going to happen. Either this little story ends on its funny note and we, again, do not get to learn anything else about Dora or we get Part Two of Angry!Dora and this drags out for a little longer, but hopefully leading to more character development. Depending on if the cup is half empty or full, this situation seems like win/win and loss/loss.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Econoclast on 27 Jan 2009, 21:07
In other words, the kind of guy who's not Human, or probably doesn't care all that much about his SO. Unfortunately Vulcans are a fictitious race...

You know, not all guys are paranoid or insecure... Some men actually don't worry about breaking up, because they realize that they're still whole people outside of a relationship. If that's sociopathic, well then I guess I'm a sociopath. It's definitely better than being a whiny pussy about relationships... Just saying.

Quote
Econoclast - belittling your SO's concerns, even if they aren't necessarily rational is no way to actually be able to work through an argument.  When the SO is angry, saying, "This is BS - I didn't think that someone hitting on me was important enough for me to tell you." especially if she is insecure.

So... One should just humor people when they're being stupid, thus contributing to an endless cycle of further stupidity?

Okay...

On today's comic: that poor girl is having a rather bad week, it would seem.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ellixan on 27 Jan 2009, 21:09
What happened to Dora's jacket? It's not on the back of her chair, was there a coat check? Did that brunette hostess girl take it away with her?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Jeff7 on 27 Jan 2009, 21:10
As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

That's why Jeph is using what-are-the-odds girl to slowly introduce a threesome.
Definitely. This must be the start of Questionable Consent.
Hannelore is off somewhere in meadow, creepily eyeing some fuzzy white bunnies.
Penelope is sprouting a rather odd appendage.

Yes, change is in the wind.



Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 27 Jan 2009, 21:12
As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

Hi Sven.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BourbonBeast on 27 Jan 2009, 21:25
Today's comic:  I larfed.
I larfed out loud.

As much as I loved the old layout, I had a nasty habit of reading the sidebar newspost before the comic and frequently scrolled down and read the punchline too quickly.  Today's comic was a reinforcement saying DON'T DO THAT!!!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 27 Jan 2009, 21:27
Jeph is deliciously evil.

Especially, "What are the odds?"

Bwahahaha!!!

I've had days like that...where you ask that and then realize it's the worst thing you could have said because you're in for a day of irony.

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 27 Jan 2009, 21:27
In other words, the kind of guy who's not Human, or probably doesn't care all that much about his SO. Unfortunately Vulcans are a fictitious race...

You know, not all guys are paranoid or insecure... Some men actually don't worry about breaking up, because they realize that they're still whole people outside of a relationship. If that's sociopathic, well then I guess I'm a sociopath. It's definitely better than being a whiny pussy about relationships... Just saying.
I agree with you mostly. But worrying on some level is inevitable at some point if it's a person they love being with. Just not usually the extreme whiny high-school-drama kind of worry.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: emmaleigh on 27 Jan 2009, 21:28
And kgbisouttogetme, I can't begin to describe how pissed I was that those toys came out when I was too old for anyone to give some of them to me, and too young to have the nerve to buy them for myself. Truly, childhood is wasted on children.

If it makes you feel any better, I had them when I was little and LOVED them!! We had dino/people-wars all the time! It was awesome.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: geffyb on 27 Jan 2009, 21:30
I'm calling this right now, Dora feels so bad for her that she has her join the group in some way.

Great comic Jeph!

P.S. I wish Jeph had her say "Hi I'm ______ welcome to-" just so we could know her name.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 27 Jan 2009, 21:44
first off

HA!

to all  the people who thought Dora and Marten were gona break up

on a side note, i do think this is an anticlimactic end to the argument, but something tells me we havnt seen the last of it, or random college waitress chick.

but im glad they are still together, all is resolved, and the hot new chick has returned
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tobimaro on 27 Jan 2009, 21:46
What are the odds?  Screw the odds, since this is all about the funny!

Feel sorry for the other girl in this, but... :evil:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: weirdbeard on 27 Jan 2009, 22:01
i nearly shat myself laughing at the punchline today.
in fact, having that be the punchline for the last 4 days was just fucking brilliant.  I hope the more fervent debaters in the 'Dora's a bitch, their relationship is unhealthy, marten's an ass' argument go back and read friday's newspost.  I just did and had a nice little follow-up chuckle at the amusement jeph hopefully derived from all of this.
well played.

As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

Hi Sven.

this actually did make me shit myself laughing.  time for a shower.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 27 Jan 2009, 22:04
i nearly shat myself laughing at the punchline today.
in fact, having that be the punchline for the last 4 days was just fucking brilliant.  I hope the more fervent debaters in the 'Dora's a bitch, their relationship is unhealthy, marten's an ass' argument go back and read friday's newspost.  I just did and had a nice little follow-up chuckle at the amusement jeph hopefully derived from all of this.
well played.

As much as this comic was funny, Marten and Dora staying together represents a sign that their relationship(and plot arc based thereof) is starting to stagnate, IMHO. 

Hi Sven.

this actually did make me shit myself laughing.  time for a shower.

 :evil:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Gammasite on 27 Jan 2009, 22:50
We all thought Faye was a sassy bitch at the begin. And know we know what makes her a sassy bitch, and now we love her for it. Maybe the same will be done with Dora. Maybe we find out something about her past, and who knows, maybe we will love her for her faults too.

We already did. I forget when it was, but basically it's an inferiority complex due to Sven being more popular than her in high school.

Marten needs to start taking lessons from Sven. He's the only guy who seems to know what he's doing.

A few months ago, I would have disagreed with you...I really would have.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Masterbainter on 27 Jan 2009, 23:16
so, I guess my hopes of Dora being arrested for murder were far fetched...

*now hopes for 3some for Mrten.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 28 Jan 2009, 00:03
LOL that totally made up for the relationship drama. Good one, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 28 Jan 2009, 00:13
We all thought Faye was a sassy bitch at the begin. And know we know what makes her a sassy bitch, and now we love her for it. Maybe the same will be done with Dora. Maybe we find out something about her past, and who knows, maybe we will love her for her faults too.

We already did. I forget when it was, but basically it's an inferiority complex due to Sven being more popular than her in high school.

what comic # is that?? i dont remember that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shadic on 28 Jan 2009, 00:16
Gods, that was hilarious.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Neskah on 28 Jan 2009, 00:35
Sometimes you have to say "I love you, but I'm pissed and need to go be annoyed at you for a while." 

^ So True. Hehehe can you believe my Bf and I have never had a fight? Oh we've come close, but then one of us says "This is stupid, I'm NOT fighting over which flavour yoghurt we bought" then grin sheepishly.

If we can see the others mad, we make them them saywhats bothering them, no matter how 'irrational' (Yes I'm usually the one. The insane/hormonal chick). Then we sit and listen, no cutting in to defend ourselves. We can talk about it later when we're both calm, but at least mad person A has got it off their chest and bad person B can take time to see the situation from another angle. Don't ask me why we do this, it's never been discussed in a "We're a couple this is how we do things." way. I guess nothing so far has been so important it's worth staying angry at the one I love, yet.


ummmm... just to let you know dinosaurs and humans didnt live at the same time
...THAT'S the biggest inaccuracy you can find in that picture?

That made me LOL, literally.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: NeverQuiteGoth on 28 Jan 2009, 00:45
i nearly shat myself laughing at the punchline today.

Same here LOL I'm still laughing at their faces. I mean, that was the funniest thing that could possibly happen.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Fen on 28 Jan 2009, 00:54
EVERYONE GETS PETRIFIED!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: midnight hobo on 28 Jan 2009, 01:43
January 27: Oh what you saaaa-ay!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: idonthaveorgans on 28 Jan 2009, 02:22
amazing punchline. it's made my morning.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 28 Jan 2009, 02:24
Maybe the same will be done with Dora. Maybe we find out something about her past, and who knows, maybe we will love her for her faults too.
We already did. I forget when it was, but basically it's an inferiority complex due to Sven being more popular than her in high school.
Er, not exactly. It's an inferiority complex fueled by girls pretending to be friends with Dora to get into her house so they could sneak into Sven's room for make-outs. So instead of a 'pure' Jan Brady Complex, Dora actually has a reason to feel "second best". Which Sven didn't help later by poaching Dora's friends and doing the (to quote David Bowie) wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am* with them, which ended the friendships.

And kgbisouttogetme, I can't begin to describe how pissed I was that those toys came out when I was too old for anyone to give some of them to me, and too young to have the nerve to buy them for myself. Truly, childhood is wasted on children.
If it makes you feel any better, I had them when I was little and LOVED them!! We had dino/people-wars all the time! It was awesome.
Strangely enough, no, it doesn't. I started to add that I'd read the paint on those toys caused cancer, but I'm better than that. I think.

*I thought referencing "Suffragette City" to be particularly appropriate. If QC were Alley McBeal (Thankfully, it's not), "Suffragette City" would be Sven's theme song. http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/david+bowie/suffragette+city_20036917.html (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/david+bowie/suffragette+city_20036917.html)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Dagdason on 28 Jan 2009, 02:25
Ooooh, man. I've been in those kinds of situations before. :lol:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Malek on 28 Jan 2009, 03:08
Wow,i wonder how this will play out.

I see the college girl running fast or Dora and Martin trying to talk to her,or maybe everyone just sits there.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Manix on 28 Jan 2009, 03:10
I understand how Dora feels (not the whole secrelty asking a SF out behind your back thing) I too have sufferred from an inferiority complex, and her whole relationship with Marten has given me some insight into her character. I'm willing to bet that the entire reason she went goth in the first place was because of Sven and his actions with her supposed friends (most of whom viewed her as a stepping stone to Sven). She finally figured "here's some friends who won't dump me for my brother."

Of course, the normal activities of these goths eventually became to much for her, plus her growing up and seperating herself from her brother helped her leave the goth phase behind. I can see the slow regrowing of her blonde hair another sign that she's really putting Sven behind her.

Say what you will about Sven, he's been right a few times recently, and is good at standing up for himself, but he's an asshole, nothing will change that, and I can see his "relationship" with Faye going downhill soon if it doesn't change. Maybe the occassional bit of random sex is "healthy" (but I won't start a debate there) but a pure fuck-buddies relationship is not. If anything, this may end up making Faye worse.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Conco on 28 Jan 2009, 03:38
hah, maybe a little obvious but still a nicely crafted joke
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 28 Jan 2009, 03:45
The one time I read a comic's title beforehand it spoils my LOL-by-surprise-moment..
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Patrick on 28 Jan 2009, 03:47
Be honest, Jeph. You didn't want to actually come up with a name for the restaurant.

Jokes aside, fuck, I hate coincidences like that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Thaes on 28 Jan 2009, 03:56
I'm quite certain that, had I read the comic's title before the comic like I usually do, I wouldn't have been as surprised/laughed that much as I did.

Thank goodness I didn't.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 28 Jan 2009, 04:14
Jeph, thanks for my morning chuckle.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: satsugaikaze on 28 Jan 2009, 04:29
Oh, the poor things.

WE ARE AMUSED AT THEIR SUFFRING JEPH KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Wyr on 28 Jan 2009, 05:13
So, Dora's gonna get something in her food that she didn't order... and Marty's Mezze Penne Rigate will spell out a seven digit number.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Alphalpha on 28 Jan 2009, 05:21
How many people actually drop things when they're surprised? I've kind of jerked and throw stuff in the air, but I've never lost motor functions in my hands and just dropped stuff.

I'm kind of disappointed at this strip actually. I knew College Girl would be back, but I hoped it would be for more drama, not cheap comedy. C'est la vie, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 28 Jan 2009, 05:34
Yeah sadly Jeph screwed up the bullet time in todays strip. So instead of an elaborately animated slow motion akimbo action scene we only get a freeze frame of the second they got ready to pull their guns (hence dropping the other stuff). God dammit, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 28 Jan 2009, 05:36
Wow,i wonder how this will play out.

I see the college girl running fast or Dora and Martin trying to talk to her,or maybe everyone just sits there.

all of which leads to a threesome.

lol
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Patrick on 28 Jan 2009, 05:51
I'm kind of disappointed at this strip actually. I knew College Girl would be back, but I hoped it would be for more drama, not cheap comedy. C'est la vie, I suppose.

Wow, somebody's impatient today. Give the poor guy a break.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BryanP on 28 Jan 2009, 06:08
It doesn't mean you break up or get divorced.  If you think it does then you have unrealistic expectations of love.
Ever checked the divorce ratings ? Thats why they are so high. People dont realize that the next marriage will just be like this one, they will only have to learn that lesson again.


See "unrealistic expectations" comment above. 

It's like friends I know who float from one relationship to the next.  As soon as the "Oh darling!  I've missed you so!" phase wears off they think that means the relationship itself is over.  Sad, really.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 28 Jan 2009, 06:13
Quote
If anything, this may end up making Faye worse.

Oooh, I can only hope!

Tease.

Quote
As soon as the "Oh darling!  I've missed you so!" phase wears off they think that means the relationship itself is over.  Sad, really.

Back when I was younger, I nailed a lot of hotties on the rebound who thought that way.  Who says you can't benefit from other peoples' stupidity?

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: mechapirate on 28 Jan 2009, 06:54
Wow, it's been awhile since I laughed out loud to this comic. I should have seen this coming, but it genuinely took me by surprise. Thank you for making my day that much better QC.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ProtusMose on 28 Jan 2009, 07:13
Wow,i wonder how this will play out.

I see the college girl running fast or Dora and Martin trying to talk to her,or maybe everyone just sits there.

all of which leads to a threesome.

lol

Exactly.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: dps on 28 Jan 2009, 07:23
I'm kind of disappointed at this strip actually. I knew College Girl would be back, but I hoped it would be for more drama, not cheap comedy. C'est la vie, I suppose.

We get plenty of drama in the comic already;  it's good to see more comedy.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 28 Jan 2009, 07:25
Agree.

I read this comic for the humor.  I want drama?  I go to work.

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 28 Jan 2009, 07:38
Agree.

I read this comic for the humor.  I want drama?  I go to work.

S

shwing! Quote of the day.

This is an online comic, not days of our fucking lives.

i liked the mix. It broken the depression pacing of the last few days.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bicostp on 28 Jan 2009, 08:28
There's only one thing to say about this one:



:-D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shok Xone Studios on 28 Jan 2009, 09:05
"That's the same sound that went through my head, only a hundred times louder, and in the background, ten thousand chimps were shitting."

– Lewis Black, as always, summing up things better than I ever could.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Penston on 28 Jan 2009, 09:25
Agree.

I read this comic for the humor.  I want drama?  I go to work.

S

shwing! Quote of the day.

This is an online comic, not days of our fucking lives.

i liked the mix. It broken the depression pacing of the last few days.

I'd say that this drama is being done in a pretty humorous way. I mean, she asks him out, then she goes to Dora, then they come to her, and next theres probably going to be an equally cheesy/soap opera-esque plot twist.

THATS FUNNY!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Antsan on 28 Jan 2009, 09:29
I liked the comic, although I don't like how they just drop their things. Clenching your fists in anger/surprise/fear might be more appropriate.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: michi-love on 28 Jan 2009, 10:01
.......Poor darling.
I think she should just go home and go to sleep. Maybe tomorrow'll be better for her?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Blyss on 28 Jan 2009, 10:01
 :lol:

THAT was funny.  Made suffering through the rest of it more tolerable.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: emmaleigh on 28 Jan 2009, 10:27
ummmm... just to let you know dinosaurs and humans didnt live at the same time
...THAT'S the biggest inaccuracy you can find in that picture?
That made me LOL, literally.

The thing is, in the realm of the continuity of Dino-Riders, that's not even an inaccuracy. I just looked up the Wikipedia article, and lo and behold, time travel is involved. And ALIENS.

Oh, and on a comic-related note, if we get one more Dora/Marten fight without Dora coming to any sort of realization about herself at all and trying to improve herself, then I will be incredibly irritated. That just doesn't seem realistic. And I really do think Faye/Sven would have struck up something more serious than just casual sex by now, especially with how much Sven wanted Faye in old strips (I was reading old strips last night and he really genuinely liked her!). Anyway I do predict Marten can't deal with Dora's ridiculosity after a couple more months (real-time) and they break up and he gets with either red-hair chick or, less likely, Hannelore. I don't think Hannelore's anti-sex attitude would play very well with Marten, but it could be something they work on together. She's almost too childlike for that to be a good thing, though.
Title: Re: WCT January 28
Post by: Sprocket on 28 Jan 2009, 10:43
Man, Jeph set us up for relationship failure there...bastard.  But the funny was good in the end.  I really don't understand how Dora could be so insecure about Martin...she's REALLY hot, she owns her own business... Girl has got it goin' ON!  The only explanation I can figure is that she has been seriously relationship burned in the past.  I'm thinking a row of cheaters or her parents cheated on eachother or something. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: chrisa1 on 28 Jan 2009, 10:48
Yes, it's funny today and all, but is this like the smallest town ever? How does random girl show up in *3 different locations* within the past week of strips?

She must be a secret android with a homing device on Marten.
Title: Re: WCT January 28
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 28 Jan 2009, 10:49
Man, Jeph set us up for relationship failure there...bastard.  But the funny was good in the end.  I really don't understand how Dora could be so insecure about Martin...she's REALLY hot, she owns her own business... Girl has got it goin' ON!  The only explanation I can figure is that she has been seriously relationship burned in the past.  I'm thinking a row of cheaters or her parents cheated on eachother or something. 

Maybe she's insecure about Martin because he was really into Faye when they got together, then very easily switched his affection to Dora. Maybe she subconsciously knows he could do the same to her.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: VicDor on 28 Jan 2009, 10:54
Obviously a new character is being introduced to compensate for Ellen and Natasha. Wonder how it'll turn out...

amazing punchline. it's made my morning.
...Wood?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: emmalee on 28 Jan 2009, 11:08
Obviously a new character is being introduced to compensate for Ellen and Natasha. Wonder how it'll turn out...

I'm thinking the same thing - she'll probably keep coming back. I'm just wondering whether she'll be absorbed into the circle of friends, or if she's just going to be a constant source of humorous discord. I vote option B.

Seems like the comic is settling too much into its own little world. Shit needs to get stirred up.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 28 Jan 2009, 12:05
Haha, i bet the woman thinks that Dora and Martin are stalking her to murder her. Dora's reaction and Martins "I believe" will be more of a "WTF?"

Still laughing at this. The woman probably pissed her pants.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: weirdbeard on 28 Jan 2009, 12:58
Obviously a new character is being introduced to compensate for Ellen and Natasha. Wonder how it'll turn out...

it occurs to me that with the recent skip forward to winter climes that Ellen may be back from her semester at sea.
perhaps a return of Stevellen?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: SexRaptor on 28 Jan 2009, 13:05
I laughed so hard at this today it was ridiculous.

Thoughts on other people's thoughts...

1: I can't imagine caring less about them dropping their stuff in shock - it's a well established gag in comedy, get over it.
2: Small town or not, girl showing up was comedy gold, and there's this little thing called coincidence. I've had stranger encounters and i'm in a city of a million people, so.

'I'm just wondering whether she'll be absorbed into the circle of friends, or if she's just going to be a constant source of humorous discord. I vote option B.'

3: I like option B as well - there's been a lot less funny and a lot more drama of late. Someone to stir shit up would be nice.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heranje on 28 Jan 2009, 13:15
Poor Unfortunate College Girl.

I hope she at least gets a good tip out of this whole experience.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: CycloneChibi on 28 Jan 2009, 13:27

Oh, and on a comic-related note, if we get one more Dora/Marten fight without Dora coming to any sort of realization about herself at all and trying to improve herself, then I will be incredibly irritated. That just doesn't seem realistic. And I really do think Faye/Sven would have struck up something more serious than just casual sex by now, especially with how much Sven wanted Faye in old strips (I was reading old strips last night and he really genuinely liked her!). Anyway I do predict Marten can't deal with Dora's ridiculosity after a couple more months (real-time) and they break up and he gets with either red-hair chick or, less likely, Hannelore. I don't think Hannelore's anti-sex attitude would play very well with Marten, but it could be something they work on together. She's almost too childlike for that to be a good thing, though.

This.  I really don't think we'd be seeing this many fights between Dora and Marten without it eventually leading up to something bigger.  Dora needs to stop taking out her insecurities on Marten.  I've honestly disliked Dora ever since the whole "sdfasdnfsk Faye is just sleeping with Sven to get back at us!!!!11 fasjfjadf" crap.  I've known people similar to Dora in real life, and they are an emotional drain.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: mister mime on 28 Jan 2009, 13:50
Obviously a new character is being introduced to compensate for Ellen and Natasha. Wonder how it'll turn out...

amazing punchline. it's made my morning.
...Wood?

ha
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: improbability driver on 28 Jan 2009, 14:42

I feel as if there has been a communication failure here, because I wasn't talking about continuity errors in the slightest. It was more to do with my finding Dora and Hanners annoying on occasion, but loving them anyway. But, uh, I guess I agree that there are in fact a few QC continuity errors and life has surprisingly not ended.

Oh well, moving on. In other news, comics! I hear they are pretty good.

Um, why would you assume my comment had anything to do with your comment? 

...because...you...quoted me? Whatever, it apparently did not. I again cite a big ol' communication failure.

Anyway! Hooray for the departure from Marten and Dora: Do All Their Fights Go Like This? I second college girl becoming a semi-regular character. Marten hasn't been properly stalked in a while.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: VicDor on 28 Jan 2009, 15:08
So I guess she'll be replacing Angus as the new comedy punchbag? Or Raven? Hanners? No, we're seeing Hanners constantly... Maybe Jeph's gunna kill her off now. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

God, so many characters have supposedly disappeared, but it's just that time moves so damn slowly in QC. I miss Steve and Jimbo. And the Tequila Monster. And I think it's a shame Jeph wrote Sara off back in the beginning. Wow, I just can't let go of anything, can I?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: satsujin24 on 28 Jan 2009, 15:41
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 28 Jan 2009, 15:51
Whoa, this is early.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mark7 on 28 Jan 2009, 15:53
Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Did we just get two episodes in one day?  :?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: chrisa1 on 28 Jan 2009, 15:54
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

And how did Pintsize get into Hanners' bed? Actually, there's probably less mystery to that one - Pintsize seems to be able to get himself into almost anywhere.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: circa_90 on 28 Jan 2009, 15:55
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

He's sick of that crazy spaz of a girlfriend he has.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shadic on 28 Jan 2009, 15:57
Poor.. Everybody.

Also, comic needs more Steve. Things are totally happier then. Excluding the Drunk-Steve parts. He went from basically being Marten's "Player 2" to... Well, where the hell is he?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: La on 28 Jan 2009, 15:59
I thought tonight's comic was amazing. Art wise, Penpen's panel was the best -- she looks gorgeous and also sad :( -- but what I love most is (1) the suggestion of Marten's unhappiness, and (2) the parallel between Marten, Faye, and Penpen. I've never really liked/disliked/gave a crap about Penelope much until this strip. Hanners and Pintsize was cute-funny. Not hilarious, but cute-funny.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 28 Jan 2009, 16:07
This is best comic I've seen in a long time for some reason. Something about how it's been drawn

"omg so many characters in one page"
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Nightson on 28 Jan 2009, 16:10
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

He had a fight with his girlfriend, one in which, despite him rolling over, he probably still feels was her fault for being irrational.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: est on 28 Jan 2009, 16:12
He's sick of that crazy spaz of a girlfriend he has.

I hope you are joking.  Other than Tai, Dora is about the most laid-back/normal girl in the comic.  He's just had a bad day.

Also, Penelope's panel is my favourite in this strip due to a relatively minor character getting such an expressive moment.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: fifthfiend on 28 Jan 2009, 16:20
Well that was about as subtle as getting hit in the junk with a sackful of hammers.

A sackful of hammers that is, itself, about as subtle as a comic strip that is not subtle in any way.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: snubnose on 28 Jan 2009, 16:22
Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Did we just get two episodes in one day?  :?
I think so.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ThunderPower on 28 Jan 2009, 16:23
Sigh.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 28 Jan 2009, 16:24
Boy, I am NOT looking forward to the Marten/Faye shippers' reaction to this.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Exar_Kun on 28 Jan 2009, 16:29
Any guy with a girlfriend with issues knows... said girlfriend will not ever let you forget about her issues. It will always be something the guy has to work around.  In my case, I tried helping my (ex)girl with her issues and she only pushed me further away.  Dealing with that kind of stuff day in and day out takes its toll, I can tell you from experience.  Dora is crazy insecure about Marten.  She thinks that Marten will tell her everything, which is kinda Marten's fault also. I mean, just a few strips ago, Marten told her about seeing Hanelore's breast.  Only Marten could have confessed that, and actually feel guilty about it at the same time. Dora expects that kind of behavior from Marten all the time, and when she doesn't see it, she freaks out.  Also, Dora is still mad at Marten despite the clear evidence that he turned that girl down.  It doesn't get any more irrational than that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Blackcat Moebius on 28 Jan 2009, 16:34
This one made me laugh out loud.  (Enough so that I spelled it out.  Oooooh.)

I hope you are joking.  Other than Tai, Dora is about the most laid-back/normal girl in the comic.  He's just had a bad day.

Well, maybe, but 'most normal' isn't saying much in this crowd.  :-)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: lyra on 28 Jan 2009, 16:58
I loved today's comic. It was deep...and it made me laugh (last panel).
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: QuarterFire on 28 Jan 2009, 17:06
It looks like Marten is gonna leave Dora soon. And he'll probably hook up with Faye.
Which means Dora and Sven will be available...

I want to be the first to ship Dora/Sven.

...

o.o
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: disaacs on 28 Jan 2009, 17:13
That was one amazing comic! So many layers of meaning in just a collection of sighs, and a LOL last panel to boot.

Let's dig in...

Marten's sigh: Maybe he's unhappy with his relationship with Dora. Maybe he's unhappy with his situation in life (lousy job, no prospects).

Faye's sigh: Easy. Fulfilled sex life, unfulfilled love life.

PenPen's sigh: Easy. Lonliness.

Pintsize's sigh: I don't event want to think about it. (I wonder, would it had been funnier the other way around?)


Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 28 Jan 2009, 17:35
Marten and Dora are having trouble, but it could always get worse...

Like this!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1e2hyo.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/28btndf.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Followed by this!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4ly9.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/8y6p3l.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Now that's drama that would make any soap opera cry. :evil:

(And not any more strange than shipping Dora/Sven, lol)

I loved the strip, and I loved getting it so early in the day. However, this does mean we have to wait longer for the next one...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: nobo on 28 Jan 2009, 18:01
It looks like Marten is gonna leave Dora soon. And he'll probably hook up with Faye.

o.o

No. Marten/Faye will never happen. If Marten dumps Dora and gets with Faye, Faye will get fired from the coffee shop and that locale will forever be lost to the story. So no more Dora, Penelope, or Raven. I think the same goes for Marten/Penelope. I think Marten/Hanners is where this is going to end up.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 28 Jan 2009, 19:01
Marten/Hanners will never happen.

Marten/Unnamed-redhead is much more likely.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: nobo on 28 Jan 2009, 19:17
i think in the long run marten/hanners is a possibility. especially if you go back and see how he has always been nice to her and stuck up for her.

but you may be one to something with him dating around for a while first.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sporky800 on 28 Jan 2009, 19:20
Seriously? Marten/Hanners?  Eh, i doubt it.  I don't forsee hannelore with anybody for quite some time.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: estabrookette on 28 Jan 2009, 19:20
On a random note, Penny has a very small bed.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Fenriswolf on 28 Jan 2009, 19:27
I loved today's comic. It was deep...and it made me laugh (last panel).
^^ This. The first panel made me sad (as incredibly annoyed as I've been at Dora for... quite some time... I like her and they're a great couple), the last panel made me actually LOL. Great comic today, I am happy.  :lol:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: nobo on 28 Jan 2009, 19:28
I think if hanners ends up with anyone it would be someone she's known for a long time rather than a completely new person.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 28 Jan 2009, 19:31
Shawn, let me just say that was pure unhindered genius.   :mrgreen:

I feel bad for Faye, honestly.  I mean most of her interaction these days is with Sven, and that's ridiculously dysfunctional.  If anything I wish Marten and Faye would be closer buddies again.  It's like her interaction with the rest of the gang rests purely on work schedules.  It's kinda depressing.

Pen-allope too.  I don't normally think much on her but this strip made me care.   Very well drawn as well.  Looks like the floor of my room.  I always saw Pen-allope as a neat freak, though (I assumed).  

Hanners cute as ever.  Glad to see pintsize.  That made me chuckle
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: QuarterFire on 28 Jan 2009, 19:40
Hanners/anyone won't happen.

That girl has more issues than DC comics.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: JReynolds on 28 Jan 2009, 19:46
estabrookette has it right-- Penelope sleeps in a twin bed. Which has to signify something about her ongoing (lack) of a love life.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 28 Jan 2009, 19:58
Shawn, let me just say that was pure unhindered genius.   :mrgreen:

lol thanks :D

This strip was just begging to be photoshoped, so I had to  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 28 Jan 2009, 19:58
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

He's sick of that crazy spaz of a girlfriend he has.

Thank you.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: PHeller on 28 Jan 2009, 20:00
I'll tell ya what would be awesome...if Faye met some other guy and had Sven turn psycho jealous ala' Dora.

Today's comic made me wanna talk about it.

Talking about cartoons...ridiculous.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 28 Jan 2009, 20:04
You're ridiculous.

(but that would be so out of character for him.  i would love to see that.)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 28 Jan 2009, 20:16
I hope you are joking.  Other than Tai, Dora is about the most laid-back/normal girl in the comic.

If Tai and Dora are "normal", I'm glad to not be in a relationship.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Econoclast on 28 Jan 2009, 20:25
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

His girlfriend's a spaz and he's probably just now realizing it.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: haikupoet on 28 Jan 2009, 20:29
Re: 1328.... what the hell does marten have to sigh about?

His girlfriend's a spaz and he's probably just now realizing it.

I'm going to be an optimist and assume that after all the petty bullshit resolved, Marten is sighing because finding out Crushing College Chick was the waitress ripped the bandage off rather painfully. So close, and then the Angry Fist of Jeph screwed everything up again.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Twelvth on 28 Jan 2009, 20:30
Noooo, I don't want Marten and Dora to break up!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: 0kamisama on 28 Jan 2009, 20:35
I loved today's comic! Few little issues with it, mostly on my part;

Marten: The guy has a job, amazingly supportive girlfriend and tons of friends... so WHY SO SERIOUS?

Faye: Pretty much a given. Banging a guy she can't stand and she has the illusion that she'll never move on to the next guy. She's gotten over the issue of sleeping with guys, but it's still to be said if she can emotionally connect with them after the incident in her past.

Penelope: So pretty... *sigh* :laugh: She misses her man (who at this point, might be at the mercy of a group of felons, criminals and riffraff) but she seems to be the most down and out one of the group right now, being alone with no one else there to share in her company.

Hanners/Pintsize: Pure hilarity! Pure Jacques!  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 28 Jan 2009, 20:43
Quote
Hanners/Pintsize: Pure hilarity! Pure Jacques!

Aaaaaaaagh!!!  Dirty Dirty Dirty Dirty!!!

Do you KNOW what Pintsize HAS on his HARD DRIVE??

HANNERS!  RUN, BABY, RUUUUUUNNNNN!!!!

*freaks*

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 28 Jan 2009, 20:53
Honestly if Dora and Marten break up over this then I think the relationship was doomed from the beginning because every couple fights.  In fact it's kind of healthy to.  If you absolutely never quarrel with your SO then you're probably not communicating with them at all.  It just happens in long term relationships.  It only seems huge because Jeph doesn't write conflict much.

I always felt that the true test of love was not how much you love them when you're at your happiest but also loving them just the same when everything's gone to shit.

Woo comic.  woo.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: mtrem225 on 28 Jan 2009, 21:15
Marten/Hanners will never happen.

Marten/Unnamed-redhead is much more likely.

If it DID happen, Dora would probably be more pissed than if Marten left her for Faye.

I am interested to see more of unnamed redhead, however. Sometimes I wish there were a few more people in this comic...
Remember Steve? How did Marten end up being the only guy in the comic?
What happened to Marten's band? Did it fall apart when the couple broke up?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jan 2009, 21:18
The question is . . . . . How the hell did Pintsize get in there in the first place.


Penny's bed is just big enough for snuggling  :D

(Hey, is that Penny's Pizzagirl costume peeking out from under the bed there??!)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 28 Jan 2009, 21:24
Ya know, maybe for Marten it's just a sleepless night after an emotional day -- no big significance, just processing, or even just a little acid indigestion due to an uncomfortable surprise at dinner.

For Faye?  Faye probably has a lot of sleepless nights.  She pushes away any attempt anyone makes to get close to her, jumps all over Sven no matter what he does (if he tries to change his ways, she disses him, if he tries to straighten up she accuses him, she won't admit a chance of a relationship between them yet completely loses her shit at even the hint that he might look at someone else.)  She could very well be thinking about all the mixed messages she sending and her own admitted bitchy behavior.

Penny is just sweet.  Hanners is going to be up all night disinfecting her bed.

And what if Jeph had reversed it all?  What if it had been Dora, Sven, Will and Hanners who made those significant sighs in the night?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Exar_Kun on 28 Jan 2009, 21:26
I loved today's comic! Few little issues with it, mostly on my part;

Marten: The guy has a job, amazingly supportive girlfriend and tons of friends... so WHY SO SERIOUS?


From what if summed up about Marten's life:

From the strip where he says "Is this all there is?" I took that to mean that by this time in his life, he expected himself to be banging groupies left and right, not stuck working in a library, and being in a band that never plays gigs.

Its the same with me, though not the banging groupies part. I thought that by this stage of my life, I would be designing things as a mechanical engineer for various defense contractors. But no, I'm still stuck in school wondering what the hell to do.  So I identify with him. I daresay it happens to a bunch of people.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 28 Jan 2009, 21:37
Marten: The guy has a job, amazingly supportive girlfriend and tons of friends... so WHY SO SERIOUS?

Because his "amazingly supportive" girlfriend gets off on flaying him to the bone over her paranoid control-freak bullshit.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 28 Jan 2009, 21:39
Honestly if Dora and Marten break up over this then I think the relationship was doomed from the beginning because every couple fights.  In fact it's kind of healthy to.  If you absolutely never quarrel with your SO then you're probably not communicating with them at all.  It just happens in long term relationships.  It only seems huge because Jeph doesn't write conflict much.

I always felt that the true test of love was not how much you love them when you're at your happiest but also loving them just the same when everything's gone to shit.

Woo comic.  woo.
In total agreement.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 28 Jan 2009, 21:51
I liked this comic.

I think Marten is just sighing because he had a hectic day, and he knows tomorrow is going to bring more drama one way or the other, not necessarily sighing about Dora.

Faye is sighing like sum1 said before because she is fullfiled sexualy, but not emotionaly, and she knows/thinks she won't get that from Sven. But i also agree that if Marten and Faye were to get together it would most likely mark the soon to be end of QC

Now if Marten and Random hot college chick were to get together, that could start a whole new chapter of QC.... or kill it

Penelope is sighing for the obvious reason. she's lonely, on a side note how come we havn't really seen much of her lately?

Pintsize is sighing because he empathizes with his owner.....or just freak out Hanners

either way, great comic, a good gateway into many arcs
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 28 Jan 2009, 21:56
I see that Jeph got tired of the "mystery-girl" plotline and decided to do this rather simple but nice 7-character panel.

Sigh. I wonder if the sighs mean anything, are simple expressions of not being able to sleep (other than Penelope), or ?

Pintsize and Hanners are funny as hell, +Shawn's remix of the scene a few posts ago was funny.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 28 Jan 2009, 22:11
I'm going through some of that "not being able to sleep" thing, and it can be quite sigh-inducing.

I really haven't found that much to bitch about this comic.  I spent yesterday and today reading the archives for, I think, the third time (I read them all when I found the comic a couple years ago, and then read them a bit later when I missed some and had to catch up) and it just holds up.  Yeah, continuity bits and pieces, but considering Jeph tends (judging from the news posts) to make it up as he goes with only a few pre-planned arcs, it holds up really well.

What really gets me is the time dilation/compression thing.  I mean, for the characters a single day -- sometimes a single hour -- lasts for days in the strip, and we end up with a really weird perception of how the characters work.  That's just interesting as hell to me when I look at what goes on here on the threads.

If it's interesting enough to read and talk about, it's good.  If it's not good enough to read and talk about, time to do something else.  No real point in bitching about it anyway.  Lots of other stuff to read.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sporky800 on 28 Jan 2009, 22:13
I want Steve to re-enter the comic and hit on Penny (there was a brief moment when everyone thought he would).  It'd be interesting to see if Penny would remain "loyal" to Wil (even though they've technically only been on like 1 date, and he took off adventurying or whatever right after).

Also, to ppl complaining that there are no guys in the comic without Steve - Sven is also a dude!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 28 Jan 2009, 22:21

Also, to ppl complaining that there are no guys in the comic without Steve - Sven is also a dude!

Also Angus and Amir, although they are rare.  And Jimbo, although...yech!.  I'm not sure about Mr. Bianchi (Dora and Sven's dad) as counting.

I guess Jeph just likes girls.  Ya think? ;)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: SexRaptor on 28 Jan 2009, 22:37
First time i've seen Penny in a remotely interesting light. I might just like her somewhat finally.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Lyanna on 28 Jan 2009, 22:42
If anything I wish Marten and Faye would be closer buddies again.  It's like her interaction with the rest of the gang rests purely on work schedules.  It's kinda depressing.

I agree. Don't her and Marten still technically live in the same apartment? I loved that dynamic... it hasn't been in the comic in ages.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: weirdbeard on 28 Jan 2009, 22:57

Also, to ppl complaining that there are no guys in the comic without Steve - Sven is also a dude!

whoa Whoa WHOA!!1!   how do you mean...?

also, sigh, Fayten fodder. :/
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Wyr on 28 Jan 2009, 23:13
So, that about does it for all those shippers crossing their fingers for a Hanners/Pintsize. She just doesn't like the technophile.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Penston on 28 Jan 2009, 23:34
Tiny little baby pillows.

OR GIGANTIC HEADS!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Dagdason on 28 Jan 2009, 23:56
I know those nights...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: RefD on 29 Jan 2009, 00:05
I know those nights...

an empty bed in a cold room and no sleep.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: TheoGB on 29 Jan 2009, 00:07
Guys, guys...Am I missing a reference for this: http://lucid-tv.com/176.html

I know what Hellokitty is but I just don't really get what it's trying to say. Our Lady of Regis is presumably a made up name of a hospital but then maybe it's obviously something else if you're American?

Needless to say, I prefer the Hellokitty version of today's strip. :D
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: no one special on 29 Jan 2009, 00:21
Yes, it's funny today and all, but is this like the smallest town ever? How does random girl show up in *3 different locations* within the past week of strips?

She must be a secret android with a homing device on Marten.

Nah, it's totally feasible.  it's a college town - there are only so many places near campus, and people are bound to run into one another.  I work and live in a college town (i work on campus at my alma mater) and I totally see the same people in a number of different places.  That it happened all in one day is just the worst luck imaginable, but still possible.   :-)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 29 Jan 2009, 02:20
Dinosaurs with frikkin lasers

Holy shit, that picture is awesome cubed. All it needs is The Power Of Rock.

Boy, I am NOT looking forward to the Marten/Faye shippers' reaction to this.

I thought the match cut here was a gift to Faye/Marten shippers, because THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THINKING OF EACH OTHER. Now it's been said, it won't happen. Sorry, F/M (M/F?) shippers.

If anything I wish Marten and Faye would be closer buddies again.  It's like her interaction with the rest of the gang rests purely on work schedules.  It's kinda depressing.

I agree. Don't her and Marten still technically live in the same apartment? I loved that dynamic... it hasn't been in the comic in ages.

Agreed. Of course, it's not my comic.

Shawn, let me just say that was pure unhindered genius.   :mrgreen:

I second this emotion. Top work, Shawn. Flawless, and funny too.

I always saw Pen-allope as a neat freak, though (I assumed).   

Me too. Surprised to see stuff everywhere. Her heartsickness means cleaning up seems unimportant! It's like Steve hitting the bottle.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: TheReaper on 29 Jan 2009, 02:21
Marten and Dora are having trouble, but it could always get worse...

Like this!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1e2hyo.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/28btndf.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Followed by this!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4ly9.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/8y6p3l.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Now that's drama that would make any soap opera cry. :evil:

(And not any more strange than shipping Dora/Sven, lol)

I loved the strip, and I loved getting it so early in the day. However, this does mean we have to wait longer for the next one...
This is so terrible.
I laughed though so it's totally okay.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jan 2009, 02:46
I thought the match cut here was a gift to Faye/Marten shippers, because THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THINKING OF EACH OTHER.

Life consists of choices*.  When enough things have happened in your life you will realise that there were opportunities that you still regret missing, even though the path you did take was just as awesome in the end.  I could perfectly relate to Marten and Faye thinking of each other, simply as nostalgic thoughts of how things could have gone, not as something that needs to happen now.


*If it doesn't, you're not getting out enough!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mark7 on 29 Jan 2009, 02:53
It looks like Marten is gonna leave Dora soon. And he'll probably hook up with Faye.
Which means Dora and Sven will be available...

I want to be the first to ship Dora/Sven.

...

o.o

You mean Dora and Sven Bianchi?

I'm not sure the world of web comics is quite ready for that level of incestuousness.  And I pray it never will be :p
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: satsugaikaze on 29 Jan 2009, 03:14
I THOUGHT THIS COMIC WAS FOR THE PINTSIZE/PENELOPE SHIPPERS

Kiiiiiiddiiiiiing of cooouuuuuurrrrssse.

Maybe there should be some "Bizzaro QC" that stems off this comic right now, like one of those "what-if dreams".
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mark7 on 29 Jan 2009, 03:18
Do all Americans sleep on tiny flat pillows?

No wonder you're all addicted to coffee  :evil:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Doug S. Machina on 29 Jan 2009, 03:20
I thought the match cut here was a gift to Faye/Marten shippers, because THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THINKING OF EACH OTHER.

Life consists of choices*.  When enough things have happened in your life you will realise that there were opportunities that you still regret missing, even though the path you did take was just as awesome in the end.  I could perfectly relate to Marten and Faye thinking of each other, simply as nostalgic thoughts of how things could have gone, not as something that needs to happen now.

Absolutely, I sometimes have those sort of regrets already. It's perfectly believeable that they are thinking of each other. I just went for the mad shipping "This proves my OTP" obsessing.

*If it doesn't, you're not getting out enough!

This may be true as well.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 29 Jan 2009, 03:22
You mean Dora and Sven Bianchi?

I'm not sure the world of web comics is quite ready for that level of incestuousness.  And I pray it never will be :p

Hey now, if Tai has taught me anything, it's that if the sexin' is consensual, it should be allowed.

And even if it isn't, people on the message board will still trumpet its glories and demand that consent be forced 'for their own good'.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Milesb on 29 Jan 2009, 03:46
There's trouble brewin', you mark my words.

Marten and Dora are over their little tiff, wait till Faye and Sven have a mild fallout, cue Marten and Faye unexpectedly spending time together... nomnomnom.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 29 Jan 2009, 04:42
Nice little strip you've got here Mr. Jacques.

About the only thing that surprised me was just how messy Penny's room was.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: wargrafix on 29 Jan 2009, 05:12
i don't think Martin and faye are thinking about each other. They are reflecting on the fuckery that happened that day. Pintsize sighed because he might really be "pintsize".
lol
Pen seemed to have to most normal sigh moment of all of them.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: tikkimoo on 29 Jan 2009, 05:16
Todays comic made me go "d'awwwwwwwwwwwwwww" especially at Pen.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Alphalpha on 29 Jan 2009, 05:17
Dang, Americans have tiny pillows. They really don't look comfortable at all.

This is a good comic, it's a nice link, setting up whatever comes tomorrow or next week. It's told us that something big is going to happen soon, what with everyone being depressed, except Hanners who's just freaked out.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 29 Jan 2009, 05:59
My pillows are huge.
Yeah.
And I'm an American.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 29 Jan 2009, 08:00
You're just overcompensating for something....
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tibbs on 29 Jan 2009, 08:05
Guess I was the only one whose first reaction to panel three was "aww college chick is all alone" followed by "OMG Foreshadowing!".

It was only when I came here that I realised it was Penelope.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 29 Jan 2009, 08:18
College chick is a redhead anyway. :P
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tibbs on 29 Jan 2009, 09:05
College chick is a redhead anyway. :P

Hmm - looks blonde in the restaurant.

Anyway I was going by nose recognition - they both have very similar noses...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 29 Jan 2009, 09:16
You're just overcompensating for something....

Perhaps.
But it's still true.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Milesb on 29 Jan 2009, 09:19
Wistful sighs all round.

So Marten's having a 5 minute "Grass is always greener on the other side" attack beause Dora's insecurity(regardless of if it's justified or not) has been a running issue with their relationship..

Faye's unhappy because she's aware that her and Sven isnt giving her everything she wants, it's just helping her to blow off steam and not think about it..

Penny misses Wil/romance of some sort..

Is Hannelore the only character in QC who is capable of being single without being emo about it?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: manu on 29 Jan 2009, 09:20
Finally the dissenters get something. Jeph has been making a real big case for Dora/Marten and Faye/Sven for so long i thought it would actually work!

Dora may be a nice girl but I honestly don't see what reason he has to just be with her. There has to be a reason this will work in the long term besides she's easy...

It doesn't look like he's in love, but simply a nice guy too me. Of course I'm the absolute last person who knows anything about relationships so I'll quiet down now.
Wistful sighs all round.

So Marten's having a 5 minute "Grass is always greener on the other side" attack beause Dora's insecurity(regardless of if it's justified or not) has been a running issue with their relationship..

Faye's unhappy because she's aware that her and Sven isnt giving her everything she wants, it's just helping her to blow off steam and not think about it..

Penny misses Wil/romance of some sort..

Is Hannelore the only character in QC who is capable of being single without being emo about it?

Penny is able to function like a normal person so uh whats emo about having a sigh in the middle of the night?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 29 Jan 2009, 10:12
lol! great comic
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: maychild on 29 Jan 2009, 10:15
This gives me hope for a return to the lovely Marten/Faye hanging out strips that made this comic start out so great.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shaztastic on 29 Jan 2009, 10:38
marten and faye sighs too easy to read too much into but prehaps marten wishes faye had picked him and not sven? (even if we know that it's only casual, or so it seems, he thinks it's more?) and the days stupid argument made him think about it?  but then it could just be stressing over the silly argument thinking about life or worrying where Pint size is :P

faye could be thinking about falling for sven when she knows he's not good for her? could be thinking if she can be with sven (who's obviously not going to be good for her) why couldn't she be with marten (who'd be a great boyfriend)? what would of happened with marten?

and i too wish there was a return to the old faye marten dynamic.

also think that dora would probably eventually be able to get over marten and faye getting together because she knows they genuinely like each other and that marten likes her too they're not delibrately trying to mess anyone about

I love this strip of penny it shows a more human side of her cos she's so uptight normally when we see her and this shows she can let go and not be so anal, the messy room letting her emotions get the better of her i love that :D

hannelore and pintsize is just awesome lol <3 i woulda thought she'd freak out a bit more
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 29 Jan 2009, 11:11
College chick is a redhead anyway. :P

Hmm - looks blonde in the restaurant.

Anyway I was going by nose recognition - they both have very similar noses...

It's almost as if this is some kind of...cartoon...and both people are drawn by...the same person...

jk lol
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: redd1 on 29 Jan 2009, 12:51
i would have liked to have seen one more comic of them in the restaurant...maybe dora apologizing for going psycho bitch on her...and then having todays comic tomorrow.....though i must say i did love todays comic
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 29 Jan 2009, 13:25
also think that dora would probably eventually be able to get over marten and faye getting together because she knows they genuinely like each other and that marten likes her too they're not delibrately trying to mess anyone about

Are you kidding me? Dora thought Faye slept with Sven to get back at her for getting with Marten.

That would be a messier situation than the one I was in a few months ago (and am still recovering from, and nothing actually happened!) (Note to self: when the chick you're trying to go after, who is a coworker, is engaged to another coworker, and is also your boss's daughter, AND the daughter of the person that runs the place... things get messy.)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 29 Jan 2009, 13:27

I love this strip of penny it shows a more human side of her cos she's so uptight normally when we see her and this shows she can let go and not be so anal, the messy room letting her emotions get the better of her i love that :D

hannelore and pintsize is just awesome lol <3 i woulda thought she'd freak out a bit more

I like that penny is being show in a more human light now as well.

and as far as hannelore freaking out more, i would assume she would be sumwat used to these kind of things form pintsize by now, also where is winslow?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 29 Jan 2009, 13:45
Everyone keeps calling the college girl a redhead... I must be colorblind but isn't she kind of... blond/light brown?  Not that it matters.  I just thought redheads usually had red hair (or orange-ish I guess)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: azurefirem on 29 Jan 2009, 13:52
my favorite panel (i must say) has to be the last one :)
and i loved the story arc before this (will be saved for epic laughs).

just wondering, but hanners + pintsize? didn't hanners' dad want her to have a robo-boyfriend? (waaay long ago)?
So wouldn't he be happy?  :evil:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 29 Jan 2009, 15:01
Any guy with a girlfriend with issues knows... said girlfriend will not ever let you forget about her issues. It will always be something the guy has to work around.  In my case, I tried helping my (ex)girl with her issues and she only pushed me further away.  Dealing with that kind of stuff day in and day out takes its toll, I can tell you from experience.  Dora is crazy insecure about Marten.  She thinks that Marten will tell her everything, which is kinda Marten's fault also. I mean, just a few strips ago, Marten told her about seeing Hanelore's breast.  Only Marten could have confessed that, and actually feel guilty about it at the same time. Dora expects that kind of behavior from Marten all the time, and when she doesn't see it, she freaks out.  Also, Dora is still mad at Marten despite the clear evidence that he turned that girl down.  It doesn't get any more irrational than that.
Aside from the fact that insecurity is hardly a condition monopolized by women, if you actually think Dora's problem represents the height of relationship irrationality, I will tell you from personal experience (at both ends of such) that you've only seen the foothills.

I'll tell ya what would be awesome...if Faye met some other guy and had Sven turn psycho jealous ala' Dora.
I predicted this a month or two ago, and I still think it may be in the works.

So, that about does it for all those shippers crossing their fingers for a Hanners/Pintsize. She just doesn't like the technophile.
Oh, god, another ship to torpedo. Besides, Pintsize isn't Hanners' lover—he's her dealer. THough I guess he could parley that into a relationship and then turn Hanners out.
<pause>
<pause>
Sorry. Had to recover from hysterical laughter at the mental image of Hannelore turning tricks. (Let's party, John. Wait--is that clean? When did you last bathe? What kind of soap did you use?)

Do all Americans sleep on tiny flat pillows?
Well, they aren't flat when I buy them. But then something comes and eats two-thirds of the stuffing while I'm not looking. Except for my buckwheat pillow—I think buckwheat must give the Kissenfüllungesser indigestion.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 29 Jan 2009, 15:08
I think that Marten is just sighing over the day, but he could be realizing that he and Dora do get into fights over really insignificant things. Maybe he's trying to decide if it's something that needs to be worked on, or it's just incompatibility. Either way, I don't really think they're the "super cute" couple they were when they first started dating.

Faye is sighing over her loveless but great sex with Sven. She's having the "empty feeling" that comes from relationships like that. Sure, she's with someone, but she feels like she's having to hold back. She can't love him because that's not the relationship they have.

Penny is obvious. She's lonely, and probably missing Wil. It's possible she just wants someone to care about though. Who knows.

Hanners and pintsize are just for lulz.

Also, I think it's funny that the Bianchis are the only ones actually sleeping. Also funny: they sleep on the same side of the bed.

Everyone keeps calling the college girl a redhead... I must be colorblind but isn't she kind of... blond/light brown?  Not that it matters.  I just thought redheads usually had red hair (or orange-ish I guess)

Yeah, I agree with you. I thought she was another blond. I can sorta see how you could call it red, but it's not red red.

I see that Jeph got tired of the "mystery-girl" plotline and decided to do this rather simple but nice 7-character panel.

Sigh. I wonder if the sighs mean anything, are simple expressions of not being able to sleep (other than Penelope), or ?

Pintsize and Hanners are funny as hell, +Shawn's remix of the scene a few posts ago was funny.

Shawn, let me just say that was pure unhindered genius.   :mrgreen:

I second this emotion. Top work, Shawn. Flawless, and funny too.

Marten and Dora are having trouble, but it could always get worse...

Like this!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/1e2hyo.jpg) (http://i39.tinypic.com/28btndf.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Followed by this!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4ly9.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/8y6p3l.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

Now that's drama that would make any soap opera cry. :evil:

(And not any more strange than shipping Dora/Sven, lol)

I loved the strip, and I loved getting it so early in the day. However, this does mean we have to wait longer for the next one...
This is so terrible.
I laughed though so it's totally okay.

Thanks :D

I almost made it Penny and Hanners for the second one, but Penny's hand ended up over Hanner's mouth. I didn't think that was so great :p . Then I almost made it Dora and Penny (after the Marten/Sven one, which was easy because they're drawn to the same scale) which worked out well because it looked like Penny was holding sleeping Dora, but it wasn't as funny as Dora/Hanners :p
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: MrMonk on 29 Jan 2009, 15:45
The Hannelore/Dora pairing is the best of the possible combinations.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: darknight0dc on 29 Jan 2009, 15:52
I wish they'd just break up already.
i kind of do to. only because they claim to be happy with eachother, but they seem to fight alot about stupid stuff.
but at the same time i like the marten+dora combo.
i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: snubnose on 29 Jan 2009, 15:58
I loved today's comic. It was deep...and it made me laugh (last panel).
^^ This. The first panel made me sad (as incredibly annoyed as I've been at Dora for... quite some time... I like her and they're a great couple), the last panel made me actually LOL. Great comic today, I am happy.  :lol:
How did you know what Marten was actually sighting about ?

I mean there is one obvious option ... but there are others too.

I was really not sure at all why he sighted.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: darknight0dc on 29 Jan 2009, 16:02
i don't think Martin and faye are thinking about each other. They are reflecting on the fuckery that happened that day. Pintsize sighed because he might really be "pintsize".
lol
Pen seemed to have to most normal sigh moment of all of them.


i dont think faye & marten are thinking of eachother either. i think they're both just reflecting on their own situations; like you said.
i also think for faye she's confused because i think deep down she wants a serious reationship, but she's afraid of messing it up... faye has alot to sigh about lol.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 16:14
Any guy with a girlfriend with issues knows... said girlfriend will not ever let you forget about her issues. It will always be something the guy has to work around.  In my case, I tried helping my (ex)girl with her issues and she only pushed me further away.  Dealing with that kind of stuff day in and day out takes its toll, I can tell you from experience.  Dora is crazy insecure about Marten.  She thinks that Marten will tell her everything, which is kinda Marten's fault also. I mean, just a few strips ago, Marten told her about seeing Hanelore's breast.  Only Marten could have confessed that, and actually feel guilty about it at the same time. Dora expects that kind of behavior from Marten all the time, and when she doesn't see it, she freaks out.  Also, Dora is still mad at Marten despite the clear evidence that he turned that girl down.  It doesn't get any more irrational than that.
Aside from the fact that insecurity is hardly a condition monopolized by women, if you actually think Dora's problem represents the height of relationship irrationality, I will tell you from personal experience (at both ends of such) that you've only seen the foothills.

I'll tell ya what would be awesome...if Faye met some other guy and had Sven turn psycho jealous ala' Dora.
I predicted this a month or two ago, and I still think it may be in the works.

So, that about does it for all those shippers crossing their fingers for a Hanners/Pintsize. She just doesn't like the technophile.
Oh, god, another ship to torpedo. Besides, Pintsize isn't Hanners' lover—he's her dealer. THough I guess he could parley that into a relationship and then turn Hanners out.
<pause>
<pause>
Sorry. Had to recover from hysterical laughter at the mental image of Hannelore turning tricks. (Let's party, John. Wait--is that clean? When did you last bathe? What kind of soap did you use?)

Do all Americans sleep on tiny flat pillows?
Well, they aren't flat when I buy them. But then something comes and eats two-thirds of the stuffing while I'm not looking. Except for my buckwheat pillow—I think buckwheat must give the Kissenfüllungesser indigestion.

I think I just developed a crush on you, Raoullefere, and that disturbs me.  This cool/wise/Germanic thing is dangerously attractive.  Watch it!

But, yeah, it's true.  15 years now, working on 16 years, with my beloved, and we BOTH occasionally haul up ancient history or insecurity or something and have a fight.  BUT -- when you spend 2 hours with a fight, and days and days being pretty damned happy with each other, it's not that hard to let the bad stuff go, because there's so LITTLE of it comparatively.  Of course, for a fair number of folks, their expectations are for absolute perfection (which usually translates to getting everything their own way) or they tend to focus on the bad bits and let them eclipse the good stuff.  That's all perspective. 

Relationships, they be complicated things.  And doesn't Marten say often how happy he is with Dora?  So, ok, there are occasional issues.  It is NOT constant (I just toured the archives looking).  Again, perspective.

As for the pillows, I imagine they aren't very interesting to draw.  Jeph tends to make them tiny whenever they show up.  Not Representative of Reality because...well...it's a comic!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BladeDancer on 29 Jan 2009, 16:21
Ah how I missed the forums. I lost them when the site got it's new skin, and the link seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what's up? I'm curious because you all seem like you never left. (I found them again after Jeph mentioned them in the comment of comic 1324, and I searched the page source for 'forum' and copy pasted the link.)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deuxmind on 29 Jan 2009, 16:30
yeah i kind of got really confused when i couldn't find the link either.  it keeps friggin disappearing.  :?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: NightOfTheLepus on 29 Jan 2009, 16:33
i agree with the earlier comment regarding Penelope - - i didn't really care one way or the other about that storyline, but her panel in this strip was emotive enough to make me actually care about the character... well done indeed.

On a random note, Penny has a very small bed.

and on another random note, how cute is that photo of estabrookette ?  :)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 29 Jan 2009, 16:47
Ah how I missed the forums. I lost them when the site got it's new skin, and the link seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what's up? I'm curious because you all seem like you never left. (I found them again after Jeph mentioned them in the comment of comic 1324, and I searched the page source for 'forum' and copy pasted the link.)
yeah i kind of got really confused when i couldn't find the link either.  it keeps friggin disappearing.  :?

lol yeah, a lot of people (myself included) were complaining about it back when site first got changed around. I think we've all accepted the new design now, even though I still prefer the old one.

The forum link is on the middle-right of the main page only. If you go to a previous strip or another page on the site, the link won't be there anymore.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 29 Jan 2009, 16:55
I just realized that I point out Dora's flaws whenever someone defends her, but I want them to stay together whenever someone says they're going to break up.

...I...I think I might be a troll. Is there some sort of test I can take? Do I pee in a cup or something?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 17:14
Norton, strive for statistical accuracy! 

I don't think you are actively a troll, but you might be developing some trollish tendencies.  Have you been feeling any unusual desires to hang around under bridges or attack new people with accusations of being new?  Have you rubbed up against any trolls lately? That stuff can be contagious!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 29 Jan 2009, 17:18
Have you been feeling any unusual desires to hang around under bridges

OH JEZZUS! I JUST SPENT TEN HOURS UNDER A SUSPENSION BRIDGE! WHAT DO I DO? IS THERE A CREME?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 17:33
I think you can get by with a little Gold Bond ... maybe some Lotrimen for the fungus...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 29 Jan 2009, 17:41
Have you been feeling any unusual desires to hang around under bridges

OH JEZZUS! I JUST SPENT TEN HOURS UNDER A SUSPENSION BRIDGE! WHAT DO I DO? IS THERE A CREME?

Yep, there is. Just stand still and I'll go get it for you.

*loads rifle*
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 29 Jan 2009, 17:50
...I'll, uh, I'll try Mallll_kite's idea first.

That said, I DO think that Dora has some issues, but I DON'T think they should break up over them.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 18:11
Norton, I agree with you, but I have to ask -- is there anyone in this comic who does NOT have issues?  Really? 

The only significant character I can think of is Winslow, and I wouldn't swear to that...

Maybe if you want to really counter act the creeping trollism, you could list some of Dora's good qualities.


And shooting trolls just makes them come back meaner and multiplied...
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 29 Jan 2009, 18:19
I think Dora's best quality, personally, is her general easy-going attitude (most of the time). Except for when she starts getting RAR MARTEN, I can't really think of a time when she got unapologetically angry.

Plus, that talk with a nonsense word she did with Marten? that was just adorable.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 18:36
I'd also add that she has a great sense of humor, a lot of tolerance for the behavior of other people (at least when she'snot in a romantic relationship with them), and a tendency to put the needs of others before her own.  I mean, everyone makes a deal that she waited a whole two days before making a move on a guy she'd been interested in for how long until her friend declared unequivocally she was not going to act on it (and, you have to admit, it was only a potential thing in all events). 

There really isn't a character in the strip I could declare wholy bad.  Sven, for all his self professed assholery, has not done a slimy thing since the night Faye read him the riot act outside the bar.  Pintsize is the only one who could be considered irredeemable, but he's comic relief :)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Superkid11 on 29 Jan 2009, 18:46
Pintsize hasn't really done an awful thing in a while either.

Yeah, a while back I despised Sven, but since he stopped being a slimy liar(being a player is only a bad thing when you're not honest about it) he's become one of my favorites.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ThunderPower on 29 Jan 2009, 19:25
Am I the only person who noticed the red shirt with a yellow tag under Penelope's bed?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 29 Jan 2009, 20:02
Superkid, I think the last thing Pintsize did was burn holes in the couch, and I don't think it was on purpose!

Sven has been VERY honest about himself, and he's not really (at least that we can see) so much as flirted with another woman since he and Faye got together.  Of course, his honesty does him little good with Faye, Queen of Distrust, which is too bad, because he is probably the best man for her -- able to withstand her barbs and insults, confident enough not to have his self esteem broken, and able to call her on her shit.  Marten would not have been able to handle Faye -- if we thinik Dora pushes him around, imagine what Faye would do.  She's more than insecure and it takes her a lot longer to get over things.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: QuarterFire on 29 Jan 2009, 21:03
I guess Jeph just likes girls.  Ya think? ;)

Drawing women is significantly more fun than drawing men.

No need to explain why.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Wing alpha on 29 Jan 2009, 21:12
that  Penelope one  Reminded me of me more than it should....Is hard sleeping on an empty bed, after someone you love sleeps with you for a while and then she isnt there.... or plain  just wish there was some other person you could be  with.

I simpathize with the sighs too....because lets be honest we all had  those moment looking at what we have , what we done, and if its  worth or while or wasting our time . or just thinking about something.


Well played Mr Jacques Well played
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: TheReaper on 29 Jan 2009, 22:22
Oh man. "Blind high-five attempt."
Best title ever.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 29 Jan 2009, 22:41
I wish they'd just break up already.
i kind of do to. only because they claim to be happy with eachother, but they seem to fight alot about stupid stuff.
but at the same time i like the marten+dora combo.
i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.

just because you fight over stupid stuff doesn't mean you aren't happy with eachother.

have you NEVER seen a married couple?


Also I'm kinda shocked that the drama just....ended....

but something tells me monday will bring on more drama, Mondays always are filled with drama
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 29 Jan 2009, 23:27
i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.

why not?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: snubnose on 29 Jan 2009, 23:44
i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.

why not?
Cant answer for him, but in my case it would be because he's with Dora.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Malek on 30 Jan 2009, 01:14
Wow. Lots going on.

Hmmm i wonder if Wil will ever come back,will Faye ever find love,will Hanners ever find love too,will Pintsize ever stop being crazy?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: gnarlyducks on 30 Jan 2009, 01:16
Wow. Lots going on.

Hmmm i wonder if Wil will ever come back,will Faye ever find love,will Hanners ever find love too,will Pintsize ever stop being crazy?

All three things will happen in the same room simultaneously.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 30 Jan 2009, 01:30
will Hanners ever find love too

Hanners will find she can only love a mechanical man.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tibbs on 30 Jan 2009, 02:48
It's almost as if this is some kind of...cartoon...and both people are drawn by...the same person...

jk lol

WHAT!? A CARTOON!?

I demand an explanation for this outrageous comment!  :-P
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Malek on 30 Jan 2009, 03:37
I belive that in the near future that Pintsize will fail somehow.


HAHA PENNY KICKS PINTSIZE HAHA
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: MamiyaOtaru on 30 Jan 2009, 04:03
Re - apology cards:
Are we to assume the last one was the only one based on something that had happened to them?  Or did it cross over into "real life" somewhere half-way through?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Betagold on 30 Jan 2009, 04:09
I'm amazed that there isn't a thread full of apology card ideas yet.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: disharmonic symphony on 30 Jan 2009, 05:41
Yep, there is. Just stand still and I'll go get it for you.

*loads rifle*

I laughed out loud in front of my pc. Need to get out more.

As for the comic, I don't think that a sigh in the middle of the night indicates the end of an otherwise fully functional relationship. I don't know about any of you, but as for me - been there, done that, and the relationship miraculously survived.


(...it did eventually end, seeing as I'm single today, but that sigh had nothing to do with it!! I think. Yes.)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: BLACkH3T on 30 Jan 2009, 06:09
I thought Taj was hot before but she is damn sexy without the glasses.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: littlefox on 30 Jan 2009, 06:34
Jeph: the word you want is "diffusing." http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000273.htm

Also, did you get your cards idea from Achewood maybe ... http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04252008
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Border Reiver on 30 Jan 2009, 07:02
And the Greeting Cards reminded me of an old joke about children's book titles you will never see:

"Strangers have the Best Candy"

"Daddy Drinks Because You Cry"

"The Best Toys are Under the Sink"

and many more.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Jan 2009, 07:08
Jeph: the word you want is "diffusing."

No, it isn't (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/defuse) (second meaning).  Also, The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/jul/08/books.booksnews) says your suggestion is now the commonest English usage error of all!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: downward_spiral on 30 Jan 2009, 07:31
Maybe Marten is starting to realize with the whole college chick thing what he is missing? Sometimes guys are dumb about noticing how attracted to them girls are, and it took Dora 'attacking' him to finally get him to make a move of any kind. Maybe he is finally noticing that cute girls *are* in fact attracted to him and that his passive loser-ish attitude has cost him some quality booty that he could have had before he met Dora. And wow college girl is cute!!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 30 Jan 2009, 08:17
I really like how Tai looks with contacts.

I'm glad to see another 'list.' I've been missing them. Marten and Tai didn't think of at least one possible card, though, and probably others, too. Rather than 'derail' the forum, I've started a thread: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22334.0.html (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22334.0.html)

Edit: There's a half-baked poll!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 30 Jan 2009, 08:53
"I didn't mean to stalk you, I just wanted to be there for you". That would have worked for me if my ex gave me that card.

Nice to see Tai again, though I'm sorry her family is against her being a lesbian. That would explain a few things.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: LynxDaemon19 on 30 Jan 2009, 09:09
Marten's sigh could also be an "oh, what a day" sort of thing.  I mean, a girl actually asked him out, and then she happened to turn up at CoD, and he and Dora fought about it and made up, and THEN she was their waitress--sounds pretty crazy and exhausting.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Jan 2009, 09:28
Golani, I interpreted it as her needing to give the card to someone.  That seems likely from her.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heavyoak on 30 Jan 2009, 09:41
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4ly9.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/8y6p3l.jpg)
(click to enlarge)


Do not know if want....

DO WANT!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 30 Jan 2009, 09:44
And the Greeting Cards reminded me of an old joke about children's book titles you will never see:

"Strangers have the Best Candy"

"Daddy Drinks Because You Cry"

"The Best Toys are Under the Sink"

and many more.

My dad reviewed a book for a newspaper called "Why Animals Sleep On the Side of the Road (and Other Lies We Tell Our Children)".

In other book-title news, check this out...

http://www.cracked.com/article_16818_13-most-baffling-book-titles.html

Awesome list.  Great website, too.

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: syshonblast on 30 Jan 2009, 11:05
Ah how I missed the forums. I lost them when the site got it's new skin, and the link seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what's up? I'm curious because you all seem like you never left. (I found them again after Jeph mentioned them in the comment of comic 1324, and I searched the page source for 'forum' and copy pasted the link.)
yeah i kind of got really confused when i couldn't find the link either.  it keeps friggin disappearing.  :?

lol yeah, a lot of people (myself included) were complaining about it back when site first got changed around. I think we've all accepted the new design now, even though I still prefer the old one.

The forum link is on the middle-right of the main page only. If you go to a previous strip or another page on the site, the link won't be there anymore.

Woo hoo! Quote tunnel...

Actually, I was getting aggravated myself trying to find the link to the forums.  It turns out that when I clicked the RSS link I have on my homepage, it would connect me to the latest comic, but it wasn't a page that included the links to the forums, indietits, Twitter, etc.  However, when I type the web address directly, I get the comic WITH the links on the right-hand side.  Why is this the case? Know one knows.*

Anyway, not as fond of this recent comic.  Jeph's had some good ones lately, so maybe the recent entry kinda felt lame by comparison.  Bleh.


*Someone knows, but I'm not telling.  Mainly because I don't know.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Alphalpha on 30 Jan 2009, 11:24
http://www.cracked.com/article_16818_13-most-baffling-book-titles.html
Hah! This is amazing. My personal favourites are # 5, 6 and 9. Genius!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: deathwing107 on 30 Jan 2009, 12:08
was it just me or did what Tai say in the last panel kinda reminded me of the "Lost Scene" from clerks...

This is what I'm talking about...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufd_-rRwVc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufd_-rRwVc0)

Especially when Randal tells the dead girl's parents that Dante is with him. Don't know why, kinda reminded of that part.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: twilightneko on 30 Jan 2009, 13:24
I'm really liking the way Jeph is drawing Tai.

That is all. ^_^
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Fenriswolf on 30 Jan 2009, 13:47
^^ This. The first panel made me sad (as incredibly annoyed as I've been at Dora for... quite some time... I like her and they're a great couple), the last panel made me actually LOL. Great comic today, I am happy.  :lol:
How did you know what Marten was actually sighting about ?

I mean there is one obvious option ... but there are others too.

I was really not sure at all why he sighted.

I don't know, but it was my natural reaction, hence my post. I hardly think their relationship's in dire jeopardy, but I would expect he feels railroaded, rather than feeling that he actually got any point across to Dora. That is frustrating, and something I have sighed about in the night so naturally I'm going to project that.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shawn on 30 Jan 2009, 13:51
Ah how I missed the forums. I lost them when the site got it's new skin, and the link seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what's up? I'm curious because you all seem like you never left. (I found them again after Jeph mentioned them in the comment of comic 1324, and I searched the page source for 'forum' and copy pasted the link.)
yeah i kind of got really confused when i couldn't find the link either.  it keeps friggin disappearing.  :?

lol yeah, a lot of people (myself included) were complaining about it back when site first got changed around. I think we've all accepted the new design now, even though I still prefer the old one.

The forum link is on the middle-right of the main page only. If you go to a previous strip or another page on the site, the link won't be there anymore.

Woo hoo! Quote tunnel...

Actually, I was getting aggravated myself trying to find the link to the forums.  It turns out that when I clicked the RSS link I have on my homepage, it would connect me to the latest comic, but it wasn't a page that included the links to the forums, indietits, Twitter, etc.  However, when I type the web address directly, I get the comic WITH the links on the right-hand side.  Why is this the case? Know one knows.*

Anyway, not as fond of this recent comic.  Jeph's had some good ones lately, so maybe the recent entry kinda felt lame by comparison.  Bleh.


*Someone knows, but I'm not telling.  Mainly because I don't know.

The RSS feed is "http://www.questionablecontent.net/QCRSS.xml"
The Main Page is "http://www.questionablecontent.net/"

They're different pages. Only the main page has a link to the forums.

Archive pages, like http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1328 do not have a link.
The about page, http://www.questionablecontent.net/about.php, does not have a link
etc.

Just the main page. It's how Jeph designed the site.  :|

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: NightOfTheLepus on 30 Jan 2009, 13:56
i thought of:

http://www.someecards.com/ (http://www.someecards.com/)

(((might not be completely NSFW, if anyone cares about that sort of thing.)))
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Shadic on 30 Jan 2009, 16:21
Is it just me, or do the anti-Dora people overreact over her personality flaws more than she overreacts in the entire comic?

It seems to be so.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 30 Jan 2009, 16:52
I concur.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 30 Jan 2009, 16:55
Yes, I think that's a fair assessment.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 30 Jan 2009, 17:10
Maybe Tai and Marten should go into business together.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 30 Jan 2009, 19:31
I'd buy something like that.  For such occasions as weddings...

"So, when I said I didn't have any STD's...well, the results just came back positive."

...or funerals...

"About the, ahem,  unknown drunk driver who hit your son..."

Yeah.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: JReynolds on 30 Jan 2009, 19:47
...I...I think I might be a troll. Is there some sort of test I can take? Do I pee in a cup or something?

Watch out for billy goats, man. When they hit you, you know you've been hit!.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 30 Jan 2009, 19:56
Is it just me, or do the anti-Dora people overreact over her personality flaws more than she overreacts in the entire comic?

It seems to be so.

It's not overreaction; Dora is controlling Marten by browbeating him with guilt trips. If anything, y'all are underreacting because you apparently think it's funny when one person holds absolute power over the other in a relationship, as long as the one in power has a pair of tits to distract you.

I reiterate: if it was a guy who yelled at his girlfriend that she shouldn't change her hair without his approval, this forum would explode with feminist rage. But hey, it's a chick doing it and the guy is getting smacked around so he he ho ho ha ha how aDORAble (giggle) :lol:.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 30 Jan 2009, 20:50
Is it just me, or do the anti-Dora people overreact over her personality flaws more than she overreacts in the entire comic?

It seems to be so.

It's not overreaction; Dora is controlling Marten by browbeating him with guilt trips. If anything, y'all are underreacting because you apparently think it's funny when one person holds absolute power over the other in a relationship, as long as the one in power has a pair of tits to distract you.

I reiterate: if it was a guy who yelled at his girlfriend that she shouldn't change her hair without his approval, this forum would explode with feminist rage. But hey, it's a chick doing it and the guy is getting smacked around so he he ho ho ha ha how aDORAble (giggle) :lol:.

You kind of undermined yourself by making a joke at the end.  And Dora doesn't have "absolute power" - you make it sound like Marten is her servant.  He's just more passive than some people. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 30 Jan 2009, 21:05
Guess I was the only one whose first reaction to panel three was "aww college chick is all alone" followed by "OMG Foreshadowing!".

It was only when I came here that I realised it was Penelope.



Nah. Redheaded college chick is kept in the background until...

Dora/Marten/redheaded chick threesome.

<g, d & r>
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 31 Jan 2009, 00:37
Guess I was the only one whose first reaction to panel three was "aww college chick is all alone" followed by "OMG Foreshadowing!".

It was only when I came here that I realised it was Penelope.



Nah. Redheaded college chick is kept in the background until...

Dora/Marten/redheaded chick threesome.

<g, d & r>

I would totaly "FAP" to that
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 31 Jan 2009, 04:39
It's not overreaction; Dora is controlling Marten by browbeating him with guilt trips. If anything, y'all are underreacting because you apparently think it's funny when one person holds absolute power over the other in a relationship, as long as the one in power has a pair of tits to distract you.

I reiterate: if it was a guy who yelled at his girlfriend that she shouldn't change her hair without his approval, this forum would explode with feminist rage. But hey, it's a chick doing it and the guy is getting smacked around so he he ho ho ha ha how aDORAble (giggle) :lol:.

Dude - Chillpills™: They're good for you. =)

Although it's not entirely wrong what you say, I wouldn't go as far as accusing Dora of running a well calculated reign of terror for the sake of constantly manipulating Maaahhten. Plus the guy just asks for treatment that might be percepted as such, y'know.
Seems like he's just fine with getting pussy-whipped. Couldn't have learned it any other way than that considering his mom's profession anyway. :>

And since you can't spell 'overreaction' without 'ovaries' [/ironically sexist remark] these situations will occur with pretty much any partner. Which isn't solely his significant other's fault; he's the control-freak's dream boy.
Know of course you could think that this is why Dora stays with him in the first place, keeping this whole (at least subconscious and maybe even symbiotic) "abusing" scheme in motion..
So no reason to demonize Dora from my pov.

I'll just stop before I continue thinking in circles (I'm sorry, everyone) and will close with this:
Man up, man! D:<
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 31 Jan 2009, 06:55
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i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.

AGREE!

Bitch deserves...PINTSIZE.

Faye/Pintsize seems about right somehow.

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faye has alot to sigh about lol.

And hasn't sighed nearly enough yet.

Bitch needs to pay her dues.  Mostly to Marten.

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yeah i kind of got really confused when i couldn't find the link either.  it keeps friggin disappearing.

Which is why I have the sucker BOOKMARKED...so you can't get away from me!  BWAHAHAHAH!!!!

*ahem*

Er, I mean...

...I bookmark the forums so I don't have to follow links.  How do YOU do things?

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...I...I think I might be a troll. Is there some sort of test I can take? Do I pee in a cup or something?

Nah.  You're not a FULL troll yet.  But you have some trollish attributes.

You need to me more creepy, and a lot more contrary...

...like me.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

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don't think you are actively a troll, but you might be developing some trollish tendencies.

Get.  Out.  Of.  My.  Head.

It's a bad neighborhood in there;  Why you in that neighborhood, son?  You got business in this part o'town?

Hmmm?  Lemme see your driver's license and proof of insurance.  And keep yer hands where I can see 'em, okay?

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OH JEZZUS! I JUST SPENT TEN HOURS UNDER A SUSPENSION BRIDGE! WHAT DO I DO? IS THERE A CREME?

Yes.  It's called "Creme De Menthe" -- I use it in abundance whenever I feel trollish, or whenever Faye gets a bitch-slap.

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I think you can get by with a little Gold Bond

It's too bad the Air Force "gold bond powder" commercial isn't around anymore.  That'd be perfect for right now.

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so much as flirted with another woman since he and Faye got together.

Err...hello?  How about recently?  Comic 1318? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1318)

Juuust checkin.

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have you NEVER seen a married couple?

Hell, I've BEEN half of a married couple...a couple of times.  That's spot-on!

i absolutely do not want to see faye with marten.

why not?

Cuz Faye's an evil bitch who deserves Pintsize, that's why not.

Wow. Lots going on.

Hmmm i wonder if Wil will ever come back,will Faye ever find love,will Hanners ever find love too,will Pintsize ever stop being crazy?

All three things will happen in the same room simultaneously.

And then my head will explode.

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Hanners will find she can only love a mechanical man.

Cue Frank Klepacki's "Target (Mechanical Man)" tune from Command & Conquer (How's THAT for esoteric?)

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I demand an explanation for this outrageous comment!

Please submit your demand in quadruplicate on an appropriate Explanation Requisition Form A-4410-Revision C: "Demand".

Sign in the red box.  Press hard.  Four copies.


Thus endeth the current "Great Wall O'Text".

I still really am bad at this.

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 31 Jan 2009, 11:38
...duuuude....

...take it easy.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Siibillam-Law on 31 Jan 2009, 11:56
Just one thing:

oO
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Random832 on 31 Jan 2009, 14:46
Am I the only person who noticed the red shirt with a yellow tag under Penelope's bed?

The Pizza Girl outfit has long sleeves.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Golani on 31 Jan 2009, 15:59
Golani, I interpreted it as her needing to give the card to someone.  That seems likely from her.

True, now that you mention it that could fit Tai's profile.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jan 2009, 17:44
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I demand an explanation for this outrageous comment!

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Please submit your demand in quadruplicate on an appropriate Explanation Requisition Form A-4410-Revision C: "Demand".

Sign in the red box.  Press hard.  Four copies.

S

Bloody Vogons!!!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 31 Jan 2009, 18:04
Kugai, I have to ask...what is the caption in your avatar?

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jan 2009, 18:18
Kugai, I have to ask...what is the caption in your avatar?

S

Here's a link to a larger version Skawronska

http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/Kugai2/Anime%20Pics/?action=view&current=GenderError.jpg
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 01 Feb 2009, 06:24
Interesting, Kugai. But something seems to be missing...

OMG, the censors have taken her nipples!

Poor girl. Damn censors.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 01 Feb 2009, 08:03
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=962

Thought this might be relevant...like, five days ago.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Bushbr on 01 Feb 2009, 09:35
as far as akward moments greeting cards

"Happy Probably My Father's Day!"

thats really all i got..
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: m3nd3s on 01 Feb 2009, 10:43
I suggest to anyone hating Faye so much go back and read the comic from the beginning. I think the idea of her being so bad has built up in your minds, and has become just a tad overblown.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: emmaleigh on 01 Feb 2009, 11:30
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=962

Thought this might be relevant...like, five days ago.

Further evidence that girls hitting on Marten at work is NOT something "interesting" or "out of the ordinary" that happens to him.

And: yeah, if you read through archives, Faye is in no way as irrationally angry about stuff as Dora is on occasion. But just the simple fact that there are people who defend Dora's absurd behavior (as someone has pointed out many times, if a dude was acting the way Dora was, all the posters would be defending the Marten-girl equivalent) is proof that these characters have enough depth to trick people into loving one of them unconditionally. And eventually Jeph will probably take advantage of this and flip many readers over with how they see Faye and Dora, respectively.

I think I am just talking out my ass now.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 01 Feb 2009, 12:56
I think I am just talking out my ass now.

EEEWWWW and I almost read that! :x
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Norton Quintessential on 01 Feb 2009, 13:08
....Didn't you read that when you quoted it?  :?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Headwoünd on 01 Feb 2009, 13:27
uh.. no! >.>
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 01 Feb 2009, 15:06
Well, I guess Faye going over to Sven's to rescue and/or accuse him of bedding a slut when his lawyer was there was completely rational behavior :) Totally grounded in reality and justified, since Faye is the self-declared preserver of All Women Who Touch Sven.

Face it, there's not a character in the comic who hasn't at one point or another stepped over that line.  That's one thing that makes the comic funny.

And why is any pointing  out a character's negative attributes equal to "hating" that character?  Such simple worlds, people!  It is entirely possible -- nay, very common -- to like a character or a person and still be aware of their faults and flaws.  Many a fine person -- or character -- has a few issues.  That's what makes them complex and interesting.

(Not quoting any of you folks 'cuz I don't know where you've BEEN.  I used hand sanitizer before I got on the computer.)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: emmaleigh on 01 Feb 2009, 15:22
Well, I guess Faye going over to Sven's to rescue and/or accuse him of bedding a slut when his lawyer was there was completely rational behavior :) Totally grounded in reality and justified, since Faye is the self-declared preserver of All Women Who Touch Sven.

This is a really good point, but we have context for Faye's emotions when this happens. We know she is insecure about relationships and we know that she knows it and she is working on it. And she apologizes when it's all over and feels like an asshat, whereas Dora still (apparently) feels vindicated and justified when her arguments with Marten are "over."
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Lost Coastlines on 01 Feb 2009, 16:04
Well, I guess Faye going over to Sven's to rescue and/or accuse him of bedding a slut when his lawyer was there was completely rational behavior :) Totally grounded in reality and justified, since Faye is the self-declared preserver of All Women Who Touch Sven.

This is a really good point, but we have context for Faye's emotions when this happens. We know she is insecure about relationships and we know that she knows it and she is working on it. And she apologizes when it's all over and feels like an asshat, whereas Dora still (apparently) feels vindicated and justified when her arguments with Marten are "over."

Wasn't that also when she had a concussion?  It was pretty overblown, but she at least gave Sven the satisfaction of seeing her humiliated half to death.  As someone said earlier, Faye is usually pretty quick to see when she is in the wrong.  Dora, not so much.  I think Faye overstates how mean and messed up she is, saying things like "I'm a bitch to deal with," and calling herself a "chick with issues."  Dora portrays herself as the sweet and stable one.  I think they are both off-base on self-evaluation.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: MrMonk on 01 Feb 2009, 16:11
Well, I guess Faye going over to Sven's to rescue and/or accuse him of bedding a slut when his lawyer was there was completely rational behavior :) Totally grounded in reality and justified, since Faye is the self-declared preserver of All Women Who Touch Sven.

I'd forgotten about that.  I'd say it was an early indicator of her own attraction to Sven.  Related to that, I recall that she once told Sven off about (what she saw as) his habit of sleeping around.  Then, Sven told her in a later strip that he intended to change his ways.  More reasons to think that there's potential for something deeper to develop between Sven and Faye than merely "friends with benefits".
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Tybalt on 01 Feb 2009, 18:30
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(click to enlarge)


Do not know if want....

DO WANT!

HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT MY FICTIONAL SEXY FANTASIES?

LET ME UPDATE YOU ON MY ERECTIONS.


Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 01 Feb 2009, 18:32
I totally wish QC had Slashdot-style post moderation. Because that post deserves +5, Funny. :lol:
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 01 Feb 2009, 18:40
Dora represents herself as all sweetness and stability?  Where?  I've only seen her worrying about her own insecurities.  I've yet to see her say "Hey, look, I'm the stable one here!"

I think my point was missed or perhaps deliberately skipped over -- both Dora and Faye (and Sven and Marten and Steve and Penelope and do I need to mention Hannelore?) have BUCKETS of issues they are hauling around.  None of them are all good -- and none are all bad.  This is what makes them interesting.  I don't think any of them are particularly "better" or "Worse" than each other (whatever those two terms can be construed to mean).  They are COMPLEX.  That's a good reason to be interested them.  If they were really as flat, single issued, and insipid as is occasionally argued here, they wouldn't be worth the time to think about them, much less discuss them.  They'd be BORING.

Did anyone think to bleach this forum?  I'm thinking a good Cloroxing is necessary, especially after all that sticky red typeface up there... :-P
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Lost Coastlines on 01 Feb 2009, 19:25
Not as much anymore but earlier in the comic there were a few times she would say she is too nice for her own good, or self-sacrificing.  As for stability, it's more in how she plays herself off Faye.  It's also apparent in how she doesn't reflect and address her insecurities after fights with Marten or her blowing up at Faye over Sven.  She might not say it (like Faye says she's a bitch and has issues), but she definitely portrays herself as the nice and normal one.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: The Joker on 01 Feb 2009, 19:51
Tybalt, your bright red words hurt my eyes. 

Stop it. 
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: raoullefere on 01 Feb 2009, 22:04
I don't think Dora has ever represented herself as normal. For one thing, is it possible to be a Goth, former or not, and still claim to be normal?  For another, there's all the sexual innuendos, the broadsword, the battle spatula, her parents, her heroine, the way she runs COD and so on.  Too, I don;t think anyone whose business becomes famous for insulting its customers is exactly nice in the traditional sense.

As for Faye, if I had a dollar for every time someone posted "Arggh, Faye is allowed to get away with everything 'cuz she's got issues," I'd have enough for a Playstation 3. Or maybe that Epiphone SG knockoff I want. And what they say next is true, for everybody on the cast: "We all got issues."

Ah well, 'tis almost time for a new comic, new thread, and Jeph fubaring some of this.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Kugai on 01 Feb 2009, 23:15
As for Faye, if I had a dollar for every time someone posted "Arggh, Faye is allowed to get away with everything 'cuz she's got issues," I'd have enough for a Playstation 3. Or maybe that Epiphone SG knockoff I want. And what they say next is true, for everybody on the cast: "We all got issues."


Lets be honest here, if we had a dollar for that, we could afford to build a HAL9000!!!!
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 02 Feb 2009, 05:56
As for Faye, if I had a dollar for every time someone posted "Arggh, Faye is allowed to get away with everything 'cuz she's got issues," I'd have enough for a Playstation 3. Or maybe that Epiphone SG knockoff I want. And what they say next is true, for everybody on the cast: "We all got issues."

Yes, but PTSD just slightly outweighs "mah bro was more popular =(".  :-P
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 02 Feb 2009, 06:40

Yes, but PTSD just slightly outweighs "mah bro was more popular =(".  :-P

OH please -- comparative mental issues?  "My father killing himself and leaving me feeling insecure about loving anyone because they will all leave me trumps your so-called friends using you to get to your brother and you never feeling you were good enough leaving you insecure about anyone ever loving you for being who you are."

"Oh yeah?  Well my being used by so-called friends went on for YEARS and YEARS.  Your dad offed himself, what, a couple years ago?"

"So?  That's DEATH!   I lost a parent!"

"Oh Yeah?  Well I lost DOZENS of friends.  I lost MORE!"

"I don't even KNOW why my dad killed himself!  You know they were after your BROTHER."

"YOU know your dad loved you! All those girls who said they were my friends were LYING to me."

In other words, both have suffered betrayal, both have difficulty maintaining trust, both are prey to insecurities, and both occasionally act out because of internal conflict in a way that hurts both themselves and those they care about.

JEEZ!

Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 02 Feb 2009, 07:56
In other words, both have suffered betrayal, both have difficulty maintaining trust, both are prey to insecurities, and both occasionally act out because of internal conflict in a way that hurts both themselves and those they care about.

PTSD.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mallli_kite on 02 Feb 2009, 08:34
Yes, nice initials. I am intimately familiar with them.  Do you happen to know anyone who suffers from it?  Are you speaking from personal experience?

Let's just agree to disagree on this point
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Mr. Skawronska on 03 Feb 2009, 19:27
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I suggest to anyone hating Faye so much go back and read the comic from the beginning. I think the idea of her being so bad has built up in your minds, and has become just a tad overblown.

Did that.

Definitely still hate the bitch.

Not gonna change.  It's not about the issues, or comparing her with Dora, or anything like that.

I like hating the bitch; She's my emotional whipping girl.

S
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heavyoak on 03 Feb 2009, 20:26
(http://i39.tinypic.com/fk4ly9.jpg) (http://i42.tinypic.com/8y6p3l.jpg)
(click to enlarge)


Do not know if want....

DO WANT!

HEY GUYS, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT MY FICTIONAL SEXY FANTASIES?

LET ME UPDATE YOU ON MY ERECTIONS.




NO WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT INFO UNLESS YOUR A GIRL...... WAIT WHAT?
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Rocketman on 03 Feb 2009, 21:00
Yes, nice initials. I am intimately familiar with them.

So you understand it's a quite severe mental disorder, far worse than just insecurity.
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: bhtooefr on 03 Feb 2009, 21:01
NO WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT INFO UNLESS YOUR A GIRL...... WAIT WHAT?

That's exactly his point, that we don't want to know about your erections. He was something called "sarcasm." There are detectors for it commonly available on the market, I suggest that you obtain one. ;)
Title: Re: WCT January 26-30
Post by: Heavyoak on 04 Feb 2009, 01:00
NO WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THAT INFO UNLESS YOUR A GIRL...... WAIT WHAT?

That's exactly his point, that we don't want to know about your erections. He was something called "sarcasm." There are detectors for it commonly available on the market, I suggest that you obtain one. ;)

but I wasn't posting about my erections..... he was.