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Fun Stuff => ENJOY => Topic started by: sandysmilinstrange on 18 Feb 2009, 06:50
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So who all on this forum reads the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels? I do and I think they're the bees knees. Now any time a movie is adapted from something I like, it scares me a bit because there is such a great chance that it will suck. However, having seen what is looking like what will be the final cast list, I can upgrade that to full on anxious.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446029/
None of the girls look how I pictured them, but that's kind of to be expected because everyone pictures characters a bit differently.
Michael Cera, though?
Has everybody else looked at this whole cast list? How are you feeling about it overall?
Edit: Okay, Mark Webber looks exactly like Stephen Stills. I'll give credit where it is due.
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i feel fine, everything is fine.
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I think we talked about this in some other Scott Pilgrim thread, but that's long been dead.
I still don't like Michael Cera. Never have, never will. I think Scott Pilgrim is a pretty okay read, but even I don't want them to mess up the movie.
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It's being co-written and directed by the dude who did hot fuzz and shaun of the dead, I'm not worried about it being bad at all.
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Was he in charge of casting? Because if so he lost a lot of points. Michael Cera is kind of a crummy actor and I'm not looking forward to Scott's lines being said in his weird little throaty voice.
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(http://www.flickr.com/photos/edgarwright/4188361594/)
Looking at his (The wonderful Edgar Wright that is) whole flickr thread & all the production shots make me happy.
I think Cerra will be OK. He isn't so bad. If you think about other "famous" actors they could have ended up with, I'm glad it's him to be honest...
(http://popularbiographies.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/zac_efron_sexy.jpg)
You know it could happen...
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Two questions:
(1) What is with America's obsession with treasure trails?
(2) Is that a "Jonas Brother"?
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How dare you compare him to that trio you louse. That is his majesty Zac Efron, and you will treat him with respect.
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Blue Kitty, I just did a proper out loud laugh, not a little chuckle to myself, but an out loud laugh.
Effron is superior to the Jonas Brothers. I agree.
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God his waistband is so close to his dick
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And the waistband on his jeans is even closer!
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Wait....isn't that how everyone wears their pants?
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Would you like me to edit it to a less "Sexy" pic? It may proving too darn distracting...
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Is this a thread about Scott Pilgirm or Zac Efron's dick?
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The second one.
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Would you like me to edit it to a less "Sexy" pic? It may proving too darn distracting...
No, Zac is providing a useful public service in that picture by showing men how to give themselves a breast cancer check.
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Jeez, I was just trying to make Cerra look like less of a terrible choice...Maybe it worked?
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Oh fuck he's wearing a Kabbalah string
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His stomach looks older than his face.
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That's because it has more hair on it.
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I'll be damned.
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Is this a forum about Scott Pilgirm or Zac Efron's dick?
More pertinent.
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God his waistband is so close to his dick
Envy his penis lines ninja. envy them
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http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4970057/Scott_Pilgrim_-_Books_1-5 (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4970057/Scott_Pilgrim_-_Books_1-5)
I know it's naughty, but all my books are in storage & I want to make sure I've re-read before the film comes out...I thought I'd share.
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/slapclap_scott-pilgrim-movie.jpg)
I was sent this with the email title "Look, Chris Evans looks well cast. Fuck You" .
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Man,Paul Dano should've been Scott and Cera been bumped down to playing Young Neil.
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Paul Dano could play the part beautifully, but I don't think he looks right for it (yes, yes: simple art means that people can imagine characters how they please and whatnot, but still.)
Also, make fun of Zack Efron all you like, but he would have made a kick-ass Wallace in this film.
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I am afraid of Paul Dano
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He is boarderline rapey in Taking Woodstock...
I have lady boners for at least three members of the cast, as shallow as it is, it will increase my watching pleasure & possibly stop any anger I might have.. (Aubrey Plaza...yum!)
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"Look, Chris Evans looks well cast. Fuck You" .
(http://www.caterersearch.com/blogs/catering-news-blog/chris%20evans.jpg)
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I got the first issue because I was curious. It started out really lame and I almost stopped reading it, but I decided to just keep reading and I'm glad I did because it got a lot better. I wish the entire comic was like the crazy shit at the end with the fight scene but oh well.
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Joe dammit that is just not a good opinion.
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I can't help it, all the stupid highschool bullshit (and yes I realize it was post-highschool bullshit, you know what I mean) was boring as hell to read. It was like someone illustrated the Relationship Thread.
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You might be too old for Scott Pilgrim.
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You might be not fun for Scott Pilgrim.
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Not liking the relationship exposition and wanting to skip to the surreal gags is being not fun?
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I'm just a sucker for relationship shiz. Sorry if my editing offended.
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It was like someone illustrated the Relationship Thread.
Can we do this please?
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That should not be done.
The relationship stuff in the books didn't really bother me until the last couple of books when Ramona just got really mean and irrational about everything. Maybe he will clear it up in this last volume and make her seem like less of a wretch, but meanwhile, I found myself grinding my teeth at her a lot.
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So it's not just the first volume that starts slow and speeds up, that applies to the entire series. Pretty much all of Volume 3 is perfect.
Kim Pine in volume 4:
I'm sad that I'm about to die, but I'm not sad that you're about to die. I just want you to know that.
favorite moment in volume 5: Robot-01 has joined the party!
So what volumes will the movie cover anyway? From the casting it's clearly going to go into Volume 3, but it's just as clearly going to stop somewhere in the middle of the story.
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No, they just wrote a separate ending. Since there is a Gideon battle, I assume it will touch briefly on the happenings in the current books (no Lisa Miller. Boooo) and then end however they've written it.
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I have just finished reading volumes 1&2, to weigh in on Cera I think that I am also worried but if he isn't just the same character again, and they make him look older he'll be fine.
Also if I was reading this as it came out I'd probably be living in Toronto right now.
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Micheal Cera will try to make this into every other character he has ever played, which scares me.
I think Julie Powers is well casted and young nate (it's nate right?)
I'm going to grab my prayer beads bacause these books were my summertime obsession
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I'm looking through Michael Cera's filmography and out of every film I've seen him in he's been exactly the same. It was fun in Arrested Development and Juno and after that it started to get really tiring. Although it seems all the roles he's been in have just required him to be "awkward teenager." I can't recall a film I've seen him in where he had a chance to do anything different. That gives me hope, just a little.
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I'm looking through Michael Cera's filmography and out of every film I've seen him in he's been exactly the same. It was fun in Arrested Development and Juno and after that it started to get really tiring. Although it seems all the roles he's been in have just required him to be "awkward teenager." I can't recall a film I've seen him in where he had a chance to do anything different. That gives me hope, just a little.
He has the power invested in him to try to jump to a different role. If Monique can do it, why can't he?
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Did you guys see the first official photograph (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/charlielyne/pilgrim.jpg) or what
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WHAT that's awesome! That man is upside down. The sword is on fire. Good, good. I appreciate the sweatbands.
This makes me wonder how many times over the course of the film Ramona's hair will change.
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Y'know what? I wanna have sex with Allison Pill.
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I've seen the first official photograph and I'm still not excited. Whatever, it's been made and I'll probably get more excited when I see some actual trailers with Michael Cera not playing a Michael Cera character.
Mary E. Winstead has been photographed with pink, green and blue hair, but I don't know if there will be more colors. I am disappointed that they didn't mix up the styles a little bit more since they are clearly using wigs and since Ramona's hairstyle changed quite a bit and Winstead is cute enough to pull off probably any hairstyle. Julie Powers does look good as does Stephen Stills. Strangely, I though the girl playing Roxie would probably be a better Kim Pine than Allison Pill, but I'm sure they didn't want all the Arrested Developement fans to start squealing simultaneously if Cera's ex from that show played his ex in this movie. They really should have cast me as Lynette, the drummer from Clash at Demonhead. Seriously. But I can move on from that.
Also if I was reading this as it came out I'd probably be living in Toronto right now.
Right?
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Oh hey Allison Pill has the same birthday as me! That makes my obsession with Kim Pine somehow more legitimate, right?
Toronto is pretty cool but I am actually pretty glad to not be in Ontario anymore, on reflection.
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http://denofgeek.com/movies/406663/scott_pilgrim_vs_the_world_gets_release_date.html (http://denofgeek.com/movies/406663/scott_pilgrim_vs_the_world_gets_release_date.html)
Yeah!
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If Edgar Wright is directing it, I'm slightly more optimistic than I was.
That said, I've got to join the chorus of people disagreeing with the casting of Michael Cera in the role.
Michael Cera seems to play every character all awkward turtle. Reading the books, I always thought Scott Pilgrim was more brash and impulsive than awkward turtle.
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That's what I was telling someone about just recently. They were saying that Scott is awkward and I was arguing that he very well might be, but HE doesn't realize that he's awkward. He just plunges through whatever uncomfortable scenario.
I'll see it because I'm curious, but dang it all, that just seems like a terrible choice.
Cera, please prove me wrong. I would love to be eating my words after this movie comes out.
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This movie does have an oscar nominee though, does that make anyone happy?
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not really?
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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TomHanksApr09.jpg)
No, not at all.
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Really? I don't recall reading it being nominated for anything?
As for Oscars meaning anything, one word: MOON.
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Kyra Hendricks, she was nominated for Up in the Air for best supporting actress. Too bad she wasn't a larger part in the movie, it might've saved it from suckdom.
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Anna Kendrick is what you're looking for. But why should that matter? Think about this: Wicker Man had an Oscar Winner.
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How many horrible movies has Ben Kingsley been in? He won an Oscar for Gandhi.
How many horrible movies has Halle Berry been in? She won for Monster's Ball and almost everything she made post-Oscar has been horrid
Robin Williams, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Nicholas Cage......I could go on forever.
Oscars just mean that a certain movie was good, or that the actor was great in that role. I don't try to judge movies based on whether or not people involved have one an Oscar or not. How many has Scorsese won? One right? And how many amazing movies has he put out.
From the very limited amount of Scott Pilgrim I've read I don't really view him as awkward at all and trying to view Cera as him is so incredibly difficult.
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I've seen Cera in Youth in Revolt, I have faith Edgar Wright knows what he's doing.
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The hit to miss ratio sinks even lower when you factor in the ol' studio system days. Back before the '60s turning down roles just was not done. Guys like Cary Grant banged out 3 or 4 headliner roles a year, period, whether a couple of scripts were forgettable or not. And that attitude sorta persisted among actors even when playing the field and being a free agent became more and more possible. Gotta keep busy, you know?
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(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/03/500x_spvw_teaser1sht_mar17_3.jpg)
I just really want a trailer, or even a teaser.
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i don't really understand how this will be anything but disappointing
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I STILL HAVE FAITH. It's not going to suck.
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It is probably going to suck.
I will still pay $20 to see it.
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I don't think it will suck. I'm just not expecting it to be great. That poster made me pull an unbecoming face.
Please surprise me, movie.
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I am not optimistic about Cera playing Scott. He appears to have very little range, and he has never played anything remotely like the way Scott Pilgrim is characterized in the comics.
HOWEVER I cannot imagine a better director for this very unique story than the guy who made both Spaced and Hot Fuzz. Edgar Wright's presence combined with the promising early photos/marketing materials leads me to sit just on the optimistic side of the fence as a huge fan of the comics.
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So hey, the final volume has been announced to be released on the 20th of July.
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/03/500x_scott2.jpg)
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http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/universal/scottpilgrimvstheworld/
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Cera's awful.
Everything else looks
RAD
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RAD
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Yes
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DAMMIT.
This movie is releasing on a Friday the 13th.
It also happens that August 13th is my birthday.
The last time my birthday fell on a Friday, a hurricane hit my part of Florida.
Clearly this movie will be horrible.
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Holy fuck this movie actually looks like fun. Especially the words on the screen.
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Yay! That trailer was great, really captured the energy of the comic. That said... looks like we'll get Cera mumbling his way through this one. So not Scott!
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I'm so hopeful! I screamed like a small, Japanese highschooler
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Am I reading the book wrong? I don't feel like Cera is doing a horrible job. I'm sure they're putting in scenes like mopey and "destroyer" face to entice people into seeing the movie.
I mean, Scott seems pretty absent minded... I don't think thats going to be hard to hit as an actor.
I'll read Vs The World again... Maybe I'm missing something.
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Just watched the trailer.
Jizzed a little bit.
Cera seems OK.
Don't like how fake some of Ramona's wigs look, but I guess that is the cost of having her many hair colours.
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That trailer was kinda zzz. But maybe I'm just a little tired of Michael Cera.
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I'd assume that, did he not fall asleep on a big pile of paper money every night, Michael Cera would be tired of Michael Cera.
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i don't really understand how this will be anything but disappointing
don't you dare take my quotes out of context
don't you dare :C
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That trailer looks great.
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It's okay, Michael Cera. A lot of people are typecast actors. You don't have to prove anything to us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0KW4ESrZu0
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Actually, Cera looks a little bit more lively than usual. The trailer gave me a fuzzy warm feeling in my chest. I am excited.
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Still excited, more excited, very excited. Esp. since I've two movies this year based on comics & neither fo them have sucked, one was even awesome.
Its a good year to like comics.
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For those of you who are as rabid of a Scott Pilgrim fan as I, you will be pleased to know that Gamervision has taken the liberty to do a Frame by Frame Analysis (http://www.edgarwrighthere.com/2010/03/frame-by-frame-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world) of the trailer.
It's amazing how many details are missed when viewing the trailer at full speed. I am so, so excited for this movie to come out (ahem, in my pants), and IMO, Edgar Wright can do no wrong. I'm not even displeased with Cera's casting anymore (I've learned to deal).
RAD. AS. HELL. is an adequate description of how I feel about the SP trailer as well (thanks, Ozy)!
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you guys are being terribly optimistic
just sayin'
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Awww, no one likes a debbie downer! :-P Just kidding... although, I don't think there's a need to be terribly pessimistic about the movie either. I'm always wary of movie adaptations, but I don't think SP warrants it.
Bryan Lee O'Malley was consulting Edgar Wright throughout the production, so the movie won't be a huge departure from the comics. Plus, you have to give the screenwriter/Edgar some leeway because the movie will be finished before the books are even concluded. Your guess about the ending is as good as mine.
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Nope, nobody likes a Debbie downer. Not Joking.
Edgar Wright hasn't done anything even approaching bad in his career & I don't see why he'd start now. In fact if you have a good look at the cast that aren't Cera, not many of them have been in shitty films.
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Chris Evans would like to speak with you.
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NOT MANY OF THEM
(Was a phrased used for just that very man....)
I COVERED MY BACK DAMN YOU!
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you guys are being terribly optimistic
just sayin'
the trailer looks stylish and faithful to the novel in tone, and the director is edgar fucking wright. the dude's delivered two of the best comedies of the last decade, you're gonna say he doesn't know exactly what he's doing with this film?
y'all are bitches. cera really isn't that bad and this movie looks all kinds of fun.
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then again there are people on this forum who think nic cage sucks so i don't know why i'm wasting my time
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on one hand i want to agree with you, jc
on the other hand is michael cera
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you can maybe get over yourself long enough to concede that someone you don't like might turn in a good performance because that's probably not a unique concept to you and certainly isn't a unique concept to the entire history of film
that's mostly addressed to everyone in this thread dissing on cera by the way, this film looks rad and the rock owned in southland tales and mickey rourke killed in the wrestler and nic cage is in a late-career renaissance of excellent films and etc. etc. etc.
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# The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) (post-production) .... Balthazar Blake
# The Hungry Rabbit Jumps (2010) (post-production)
# Season of the Witch (2010) (completed) .... Behman
# Kick-Ass (2010) .... Damon Macready / Big Daddy
# Astro Boy (2009) (voice) .... Dr. Tenma
# The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans (2009) .... Terence McDonagh
# G-Force (2009) (voice) .... Speckles
# Knowing (2009) .... John Koestler
# Bangkok Dangerous (2008) .... Joe
# National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007) .... Ben Gates
# Next (2007) .... Cris Johnson
# Grindhouse (2007) .... Fu Manchu (segment "Werewolf Women of the SS")
# Ghost Rider (2007) .... Johnny Blaze / Ghost Rider
... aka "Spirited Racer" - Philippines (English title) (review title)
# The Wicker Man (2006) .... Edward Malus
# World Trade Center (2006) .... John McLoughlin
# The Ant Bully (2006) (voice) .... Zoc
# The Weather Man (2005) .... David Spritz
# Lord of War (2005) .... Yuri Orlov
OK, so there's Grindhouse in which he made a cameo in one of the intermission segments, Bad Lieutenant in which his hair was a bird, Kick Ass in which he and Chloe Moretz were bright spots in a film that would've sucked way more horribly without them and Lord of War is probably a line ball.
Buuuuuuut then there is also World Trade Center, The Wicker Man (sorry man but films which have attained cult status based on being prodigiously awful don't count, I don't care how you try to justify it) Ghost Rider (there's a sequel in the works hooray) 2 fucking National Treasure movies for fuck's sake, Bangkok Dangerous (see Wicker Man) and Knowing, G-Force and Astro-Boy which don't even have the sense to suck entertainingly.
Hey, maybe you can get over yourself long enough to admit that maybe there's good reason for being disappointed in the casting choice of Michael Cera which strikes me (and if I'm reading right) many other people as just attempting to ride a so-hot-right-now "indie" films actor into free promo heat as opposed to actually finding someone with, I dunno, a little bit of fucking dramatic range and shit I don't even particularly disagree with you on most counts but for fuck's sake man stop acting like everybody with a different opinion to you hasn't actually considered their viewpoint and just needs to have the bleeding fucking obvious pointed out to them in the most smug way possible and they'll come around.
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Oh for God's sake.
First, with regards to Nic Cage, even in his terrible films he's a joy to watch. The dude brings the same enthusiasm to Knowing and Ghost Rider as he did to Wild at Heart, Leaving Las Vegas and Raising Arizona. "Renaissance" was an awful word to use considering that Lord of War and The Weather Man weren't particularly bad films, just mediocre, but Bad Lieutenant is a fantastic film and his performance in it is as riveting and idiosyncratic as his roles in Adaptation were. Cage imbues each character with a personality, and it's usually their personality - the dude in Next takes on an attitude of grim determinism as the movie plays out, while the titular Bad Lieutenant is a lurching, amoral menace who is nevertheless focused on getting to the bottom of a case. Even in a movie as bad as Knowing, he's great. He becomes obsessed with the numbers, and that obsession bleeds into everything. There's an excellent scene where he rolls down his car window to look at something, except it's an automatic window so he remains perfectly motionless. But besides being a funny extension of the character's obsessive attributes, it's just a wonderful piece of physical levity.
Cage is a self-aware dude - he knows how funny his roles can be, and has said in interviews that scenes like the one in Wicker Man where he just straight-up punches a woman while wearing a bear suit is obviously going to be pretty funny. I guess if you don't like that it's your loss, but to be really cynical about someone who's on the screen having fun playing make-pretend seems counterintuitive to part of the reason that we go to movies, which is to revel in the joy of the filmic medium. Shit gets goofy in movies sometimes, and Cage invites us to enjoy the way things get goofy.
Also for real who gives a shit about the goofiness of his hair when Bad Lieutenant has one of the most brilliantly written, edited and performed interrogation scenes in movie history? The shot where the old ladies enter the room and Cage, hiding behind the door, pushes the door shut and begins to shave is absolutely incredible, and the scene only gets better from there. Nathan Rabin, who I'll quote here, does the scene better justice than I could:
Nicolas Cage catches a lot of flak, much of it deserved, for squandering his talent on vacuous Jerry Bruckheimer productions and just-plain-foolhardy ventures like The Wicker Man, and his ostentatious style has won him more mockery than admiration of late. But I’ve always had a soft spot for hammy, late-period Cage, just like I have a soft spot for hammy, late-period Al Pacino, whose sublime preening livened up a couple of New Cult Canon entries in The Devil’s Advocate and Glengarry Glen Ross. I’d submit the spectacularly overheated scene above as Exhibit A in any argument for Cage’s merits, because he brings so much more to it than could possibly be suggested on the page. (Though if he’s responsible, kudos to Finkelstein for letting Cage castigate an old woman and her caretaker with the immortal line “You’re the fucking reason this country’s going down the drain!”) A few of my favorite touches: Cage appearing from behind the door, shaving with an electric razor, which projects an odd menace while suggesting how long he’s gone without sleeping or bathing; the four times he slaps the nurse’s hand (and the scolding, almost motherly way he does it) whenever she reaches for the oxygen line; and the way he works himself into a lather the longer he’s in the room. You’d expect common decency would shame him into apologizing for going Jack Bauer on a little old lady, but he just gets madder and madder and madder.
His hair looks ridiculous, but his character is played without restraint, without fear and without anything except sheer dedication to the character, the scene, and the film. As such you have a number of shots and scenes that emerge as remarkable, plot threads that interweave beautifully, and the sensation that the personality tying everything together is singular and remarkable and cohesive. It's an absolutely mesmerising film.
I'll readily admit that he sucked in Bangkok Dangerous, but that's because no amount of enthusiasm could have possibly saved that movie. It was a well of suck. Just like sometimes casting that seems dumb turns out to be great, casting that should save a shitty film won't necessarily keep it from sinking. That doesn't make Bad Lieutenant any worse, just like the Rock's role in Southland Tales doesn't make his role in Race to Witch Mountain any better.
As for the casting of Cera, everyone's calling it based on the typecast perception of the dude rather than what he's doing, and a couple of scenes in the trailer, which really don't look all that bad - the bit with him crushing the cup is pretty funny, and he seems frustrated but not Cera-stereotypically flustered when explaining to Ramona Flowers that he isn't a huge fan of dudes trying to kill him for dating a lady. Most of all, I've read Scott Pilgrim and frankly I don't really think anything Cera does in the trailer is a bad interpretation of the character. Maybe it's not exactly what you had pictured in your head but if the Twilight people can get over their mental image of Edward surely you can do the same, especially if it winds up being an accurate rendition of the character's traits, you know?
I'm not a huge fan of the Kantian notion of disinterest but the piling on of hate on this dude because of whatever rep he's earned rather than his role in a given film is pretty fucking tiresome. If I have to point out the obvious problems with this in a grating manner so that we can collectively stop having a knee-jerk reaction to seeing an actor then I'll goddamn do that. It's unseemly. If you don't like him fine whatever but I'm honestly sick of people climbing all over each other to declare him a shitty dude when he's done fine in a lot of work, from Arrested Development all the way up through Youth in Revolt, in which his performances were actually some of the most solid work in the movie.
In summary, there's a few hundred words, I should have been studying but instead I decided to post a bunch of stuff, everyone should collectively just relax about x person's involvement with y thing before freaking out over how It's Ruined Now, etc. etc. etc.
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OK as usual it's time for my customary backpedal+clarification, such is my way after making any strong-worded post. Today it is in dot-points!
- I wasn't really trying to impinge on Bad Lieutenant's quality because of the way Cage's hair looks. It is of course a brilliant film and Cage is amazing in it; it was really an excuse to just make the reference because it is one of my favourite Internet things ever and I was doing smarmy little comments for all the rest of the movies so hey
- As previously stated it I agree with a lot of yr points, it's more the way you word them (here and elsewhere on the forum) that irks me
- My opinions on how self-awareness of yr own suckitude in no way make up for said suckitude should be pretty well-known by this point
There's probably more here but that'll do for now
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Hey guess what?
A really great director & all round awesome geek guy is helming this movie based on an awesome comic, holy moly it's live action as well! How exciting & wonderful!
:wink:
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Hey Johnny between this and yr behaviour in the poutine thread I am thinking that maybe a lot of yr angst stems from yr uneasy relationship with yr nationality so I don't know if you have accepted that is the case or not but you might want to take a bit of time to meditate over that before you heart someone you love...
...like Geddy Lee or Don Cherry or Nardwuar or something
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IF THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO FINALLY KILL GEDDY LEE SO BE IT
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that's a pagebreak for me so i'm going to let it stand
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- As previously stated it I agree with a lot of yr points, it's more the way you word them (here and elsewhere on the forum) that irks me
This is totally accurate, it's just that - as you can probably see - when I hop on the Serious Postin' Train the last stop is usually six hundred words down the line, and smug pithy remarks take me thirty seconds. The winter term at uni is finally over though so we'll see shortly how much I start actually contributing to the discourse here rather than clumsily riding roughshod over it.
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Photos of the seven evi ex's anyone?
http://img121.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=evilexes5and6.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=evilexes5and6.jpg)
Thought so. Oh Jason Schwartzman, why do you have to be married....
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I think I may actually like Michael Cera in this, though I'm still convinced that Pete from Anamanaguchi is really Scott Pilgrim.
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I just watched the trailer for this and am completely, utterly sold, faster than I have ever been sold on a film before, and I have never even read the comics (which might be why I have no qualms about wanting to see it, right now).
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Oh hey look, new trailer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUBVcit5VM)
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yeah alright i like the new trailer
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Oh man oh man so excitedddddddddd
I have only read maybe 3 of the books, and they were cool and all, but this looks like it is going to be an awesome film whether you have read the books or not.
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I just found out that it is released in the UK on August 6th! I am taking my brother to see it.
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I just finished reading the 5 volumes that are out and these trailers are pretty much what I want the film to be. But of course I've gotta' see the film first to see if the film is gonna be what I want it to be but I have faith that this film will be what I want it to be.
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I just finished reading the 5 volumes that are out and these trailers are pretty much what I want the film to be. But of course I've gotta' see the film first to see if the film is gonna be what I want it to be but I have faith that this film will be what I want it to be.
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Preview clip from the Lucas Lee fight (http://io9.com/5556798/first-scott-pilgrim-clip-lives-up-to-the-hype)
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Guys guys guys guys! Holy Shit yes! (http://www.edgarwrighthere.com/2010/06/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world-video-game-debut-gameplay-montage/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+edgarwrightherefeed+(Edgar+Wright+Here))
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Yeaaaaah
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Cept it's coming out on PSN first, and then XBLA after an undetermined amount of time.
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I demand it come out for the wii
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No DS version is a crime.
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MORE BETTER TRAILER (http://io9.com/5566434/best-scott-pilgrim-trailer-yet-premieres-with-a-ka+pow)
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more! better! trailer!
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ZOMG! I'm excited. Are you excited? Because I am EXCITED!
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can we start using "trailer" as a synonym for "better"?
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yeah i had no desire to see this movie until i saw that trailer.
just found out it was the international trailer.
i hate america.
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oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Bloody UK release date has been moved to a week later so I can't see it :(
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oh myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PT5yu976Y&feature=related)
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So ok, I was mildly anticipating this movie, but then I bought the first book and read it in about 2 seconds flat then Han bought me the second and third and I read the second the other night and now when I watch the trailer Jordan posted I want to read the rest of the books ASAP as a prep for watching the movie when it comes out here in about two weeks.
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also how fucking awesome does the goddamn game look+sound. Both Paul Robertson and Anamanaguchi are perfect for it.
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Definitely a buy for me. Hopefully online co-op.
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This was shown at Comic-Con and the buzz is A) Michael Cera was pretty good and did alright at being Scott Pilgrim and not George Michael Bluth and B) not enough Kim Pine. Dang.
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damn, I was really worried about the whole "kicking Kim out of the movie" thing, which I thought was pretty much inevitable. Watching the video blogs, she was clearly the one having the most fun on set, which is a huge part of what makes up acting talent in my opinion anyway.
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I just saw a commercial and realized that Mae Whitman, who played Egg/Ann Veal on Arrested Development is Roxy Richter in this! I love when actors who were in something together come back and are in something else together.
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ahahaha holy shit how did i not know kieran culkin was playing wallace? that rules
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This was pretty good! Had like, 1/8th of the depth of character of the comics, which I guess is fair because you can't really put all the awesome "the band is hanging out" scenes in and keep the movie at a reasonable length, but I missed that, a lot. I think people who haven't read the books will like this better than people who have, it was a little too slap-happy, not enough tender moments.
Like, the first half hour they basically followed the books perfectly, every scene, every little dialogue cue, etc, but they sort of just went for back to back fight scenes after that. No Honest Ed's, no backstory on Envy, no real development of the Roxy/Ramona relationship...
Still, had a blast.
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*reposted in part from my blog*
I'm not sure if it's fair for me to review this (being myself a 23 year old socially awkward bass player and video game enthusiast from Toronto, heh) but that was awesome fun!
The one thing that puzzles me is that reviewers kept saying that this wasn't the sort of thing they'd have expected from the guy who directed hot fuzz and shaun of the dead. Maybe not Shaun of the Dead, which was more slow-paced, but I saw similarities to Hot Fuzz all over the place.
edit: though that said, responding to the post above mine, I've only gotten halfway through the first of the comics so far
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This movie was fucking awesome although I do agree that it just got fight-fight-fighty at the second half, but still awesome.
Although my favorite moment might have been before the film started--during the preview of that elevator movie, when m night shyamalan's name made its appearance the entire audience of twentysomething nerds and college kids on summer break collectively went ohhhh... as they all understood.
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This movie was fucking awesome although I do agree that it just got fight-fight-fighty at the second half, but still awesome.
Although my favorite moment might have been before the film started--during the preview of that elevator movie, when m night shyamalan's name made its appearance the entire audience of twentysomething nerds and college kids on summer break collectively went ohhhh... as they all understood.
The entire movie theatre laughed at it when I went.
anyway I thought this was pretty rad(as a person who hasn't read the books). SO MANY PUNS
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the theatre i saw it at burst into fucking applause at the words "FROM THE MIND OF M. NIGHT SHAMYLAN"
scott pilgrim was actually fantastically entertaining but i came out of the theatre saying almost word-for-word what kieffer said about the back half of the movie not really giving much depth to the characters, to the film's ultimate detriment. but it's still awesome and you should go see it.
plus AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE i was stoked on kieran culkin, and that was exactly the right way to feel
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Not enough Kim Pine.
On a side note the game is all kinds of sweet. Kinda bummed it's not online co-op. Still hells of fun on the couch though with another person/three other people.
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Pretty awesome, though my girlfriend and I were laughing at little things from the comic that no one else seemed to get. I didn't really mind the back end of the movie being mostly fighting, I thought they were all different enough to break up the monotony.
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yeah but it was fighting at the expense of characterization
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i LOVED wallace
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yeah but it was fighting at the expense of characterization
This might be blasphamous, but I think if they cut out one or two fights (though Five Evil Exs doesn't sound as cool) for character this would have turned from a very fun detour until Wright's next collab into something honestly great.
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yeah but it was fighting at the expense of characterization
I didn't mind, I knew they had to condense the 6 books into a single movie and I knew things would be lost. What I told my girlfriend when we left the theater is that the movie was how The Last Airbender should have been done.
And god damn some of the reviewers for this movie are really condescending.
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yeah this movie inspired a lot of holier-than-thou reviews... there was an npr thing that pointed out how many reviewers stooped to poking fun at the audience. the new yorker review in particular was the epitome of snob.
I really liked this movie - my only problem was that mary elizabeth winstead didn't give us much reason to love ramona. but maybe the books don't, either, and that's the point. still, at the very end of the 6th, when she admits she was at her dad's and stuff, all the mystery kind of fades away and it turns out that they just like each other and I think that is the coolest part! or when she tells scott how old she is. none of that stuff is in the movie - she stays mysterious til the end. whatever I'm being a nerd.
anyways, super entertaining, and cera did a good job. coulda been cuter though. oh young neil <333
oh and did you guys see the animation short (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BitByGeWGxU)? I think it is really awesome.
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the new yorker review in particular was the epitome of snob.
Shock! They did the same thing with Kick Ass. Granted Kick Ass really was shit but, you know, whatever.
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Oh Edgar Wright, why did I ever doubt that you would make a less-than-incredible film.
I do appreciate that I probably would not have dug it as much had I read the books beforehand and overhearing some people coming out of the theatre there seemed to actually be a fair amount of bitching, but as a standalone piece of cinema, it was so fucking excellent. Also, Wallace was definitely the best character in the film. Good on you, Kieran Culkin! Really! Also shhh I have a huge crush on Anna Kendrick (and basically every other girl in the flick but mostly Anna Kendrick oh my gosh).
The only thing that bothered me was it was a bit overboard on the whole "8-BIT VIDEO GAMES! NOSTALGIA! BRIGHT COLOURS!", and I knew that would bother me from the start because, well, I'm just over it! Maybe the comics were the first to do that sort of thing before everybody else hopped on the bandwagon but it is hella played now.
Anyways, I had the pleasure of actually seeing this film in Toronto in a very hipster-filled part of town. It was An Experience! It felt cool to be able to pick a lot of the locations from the film. I wonder if they just couldn't get permission to shoot in Honest Ed's, because it features in the background in about three or four scenes, but only, like, the "H" of the sign. Weird.
Also, one more to scenes of epic hilarity in the preview for that M. Night movie
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Cinemablend has a rather long treatise on why the film bombed (http://cinemablend.com/new/Box-Office-Bob-omb-5-Reasons-Scott-Pilgrim-Vs-The-World-Failed-To-Find-An-Audience-20168.html). It seems like half cogent commentary and half bullshit. For one, the whole "musical with no music" thing, even if it's true, should have no real impact on potential receipts because the vast majority of people don't actually think about movies that way. Also the "geeks don't get it" section seems like a complete non-sequitir.
Not that it isn't obvious, but I think the biggest factors are A. $60 million is a shit ton of money to throw at an obvious cult film and B. Michael Cera. I've never read Scott Pilgrim stuff but as soon as Cera got cast I knew the extent of the character's personality, or rather, the extent of the character's personality that would be shown, and that was a big killer of my curiosity. I'd have the same reaction if, say, Keanu Reeves was cast as the lead in a straight Shakespeare adaptation. Cera is not an interesting or particularly skilled actor, especially not as a leading man.
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I asked my friends to go see it with me tonight and they were like "no, we want to play video games." soooo. yea. I think it will have a better week... my parents are seeing it cause I told them I liked it and they want to "stay current."
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Also the "geeks don't get it" section seems like a complete non-sequitir.
I don't really think it's a non-sequitar. There's a bit of a generation gap between geeks. Guys around my age (28 and up) were either graduating college or just hitting the work force when this weird era of 19-23 year old kids wearing pixel skull t-shirts and reminiscing about 8-bit video games really, REALLY took hold rather than just skated around the margins. The strangest thing is that frankly -I- was barely old enough to really play the hell out of most 8 bit games, much less these kids in my li'l brother's age range. I mean, I was only 4 years old when Legend of Zelda came out. My brother's friend has an 8 bit zelda heart shirt, but the dude was in diapers wasn't born yet when the 2nd one was released. A lot of that product and imagery is popular because some young people who like games in general appreciate the history and like the aesthetic rather than really gamed much in that era. That's 100% perfectly fine, but it does mean that while I recognize all these design elements in Scott Pilgrim, I don't really relate to them-- being a quirky gamer or comic book fan just doesn't have the same peer acceptance in my age bracket, and you sure as hell weren't buying gaming themed shit from anywhere but the internet when I was 17. In a very weird way, this imagery I grew up with now belongs to a younger set and a different breed of geek, despite the fact that -I- am the one old enough to have played the stuff that inspired it without calling it "retro-gaming."
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I don't know. I grew up around the age of 16-bit gaming (my first console was a Genesis, natch) and I knew a lot of people who still played Nintendo at that point.
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That's true, but I still think the article was right to point out that geeks and gamers are hardly a monoculture and that being a "geek film" doesn't necessarily mean that Scott Pilgrim will be everyone's particular flavor of geekiness. In my case their particular brand of early 20 something angsty hipster culture sends off a very strong signal to me that I'm dealing with something aimed at a group I don't really consider myself a part of. It's rather intimately tied into the "People over 30 won't get it" issue. A few video game references here and there doesn't do much to offset the "It's like an illustrated Relationship Thread" problem for me despite all my geekyness.
Christ, sorry about all those edits. It's just that when I read the paragraph that the "non-sequitar" was attached to, I related to it strongly, even if I apparently can't put the reason why it resonated into words.
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I'll just throw in that my first console was an SNES, and I didn't get it until PS2s had already been released. I went from there to ROMs before venturing to newer ground.
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When I was purchasing Mario 2 for nintendo my gramma still had her Pong video game machine. OG
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I do have to say that I kinda have to agree with Alex on the brand of geek argument for Scott Pilgrim. I still find it weird that a large chunk of the folks on these forums are young enough not to have been harassed at great length for being one of the various forms of geek. Keep in mind this might be colored somewhat by where I grew up, but it wasn't until right after I graduated HS that being a geek became something resembling acceptable and not deserving of some serious harassment by the rest of the school population.
With everyone raving about Scott Pilgrim I looked into it and it just sounded like I would despise all of the starring characters. I plan to watch this movie and I fully expect to enjoy it, but the characters and their "problems" are exactly why I've got no interest whatsoever in ever reading the graphic novels and I can't really blame folks for not caring or understanding the appeal.
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I'd have the same reaction if, say, Keanu Reeves was cast as the lead in a straight Shakespeare adaptation.
Not the lead, but he did play Don John in a 1993 adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing. Denzel Washington was also in it as Don Pedro, which was awesome
As to that article, it did clarify an odd nagging feeling that I had while watching the film, which was I so greatly enjoyed the film because I basically fitted into every single possible niche that it was mining, but if I was a little bit older, or a little bit younger, or a little bit cooler or a little bit geekier then it would've made me downright furious. I (like most of the characters in the film) am in the lower part of my mid-20s, which basically means that I am old enough to have played 16-bit games when they were current generation, to have played Street Fighter 2 in arcades but basically still be young enough to be angsty about girls stuff. This movie spoke to me pretty clearly, but I'm not insular enough to think that means it operated on a deeply human level like properly populist art does, and the comments I overhead coming out of the theatre reinforced that.
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A guy at hipshit website The Awl explains the difference between the book and the film for the benefit of nubs (http://www.theawl.com/2010/08/scott-pilgrim-versus-itself), particularly in regard to how female characters change.
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I'd have the same reaction if, say, Keanu Reeves was cast as the lead in a straight Shakespeare adaptation.
Not the lead, but he did play Don John in a 1993 adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing.
I remember him being pretty boring
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He was pretty boring. But I find that character to be rather boring, so I think he was an ok choice! Also he pretty much falls into the background due to the sheer brilliance of Kenneth Branagh and Emma Thompson as well as many of the other actors. (Basically that is my favorite Shakespeare movie adaption.)
I do have to say that I kinda have to agree with Alex on the brand of geek argument for Scott Pilgrim. I still find it weird that a large chunk of the folks on these forums are young enough not to have been harassed at great length for being one of the various forms of geek. Keep in mind this might be colored somewhat by where I grew up, but it wasn't until right after I graduated HS that being a geek became something resembling acceptable and not deserving of some serious harassment by the rest of the school population.
With everyone raving about Scott Pilgrim I looked into it and it just sounded like I would despise all of the starring characters. I plan to watch this movie and I fully expect to enjoy it, but the characters and their "problems" are exactly why I've got no interest whatsoever in ever reading the graphic novels and I can't really blame folks for not caring or understanding the appeal.
I do remember people being bullied over things like that, but my high school was really weird on the whole geek thing because being a geek was a Thing to Do. Basically the geek population was too big to really get made fun of with people I went to school with (that isn't limited to just video games, but also includes band and the like), so it wasn't weird for me when the whole geek fad thing came about. I was almost kind of happy because not too many people were into classic video games, just the stuff that was popular at the time, but that seems to have changed quite a bit.
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See, I've never encountered the shamed geeks social dynamic. While being a geek wasn't "cool" in my high school at least, the geeks also weren't really a social class unto themselves. They were members of other cliques and, in general, were in prominent popular positions in each which, since they were all geeks and all took classes together and liked each other, fostered a weird sort of community among all cliques.
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I should point out that I'm 4 or 5 years older than a lot of you, and the people who excluded us were usually 2-3 years older than me. So the gap is even a li'l larger than it initially appears. I'd also point out that I do not believe that any exclusion was even really about video games or D&D or anything. Rather, I think it is about the grammar of bullying and exclusion. With or without video games there's always going to be a few jackasses out there who think they can get away with picking on the younger kids, after all, and predictably it pretty much died out by my senior year when there wasn't really any bigger fish in the pond anymore. It's just that playing a lot of video games was still uncommon enough that giving someone shit for playing them still had some exclusionary heft to it. But now with Madden and Call of Duty sales flying through the roof it's a lot easier to just go back to calling people fags.
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saw this tonight. that was a hell of a show. there was so much going on, humor was perfect, the little references. great movie if you ask me.
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In the last 24 hours I have seen the movie and read all 6 comics (both for the first time) and I think I probably enjoyed the movie more. Extra little things like the single lines added into the dialogue just made it - also the movie version of the battle with the twin was far better (though the moment they mentioned twins I was hoping for one to be ice and the other fire and defeating them by turning their attacks against one another) as was the treatment of how he used his extra life. The only real place where the books outdid the movie was in the final battle and the final explination, which I guess is due to the movie being made before the final book was published.
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Just saw this with Han. It has its faults, but we both really liked it. So much that we were talking about it on the way home, then watched trailers when we got home so Han could show me certain things she'd seen in them, and we both said at different points that we could probably re-watch the entire thing over again from the start right now. So yeah, pretty entertaining.
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So, is this movie out everywhere in the world except for the UK?
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Yes!
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God fucking damnit.
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God fucking damnit.
That's what I thought. Coming January 2011? Are they serious? And this is in the Netherlands!
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I'm guessing it's got something to do with bullshit distribution rights issues?
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God fucking damnit.
That's what I thought. Coming January 2011? Are they serious? And this is in the Netherlands!
Oh man I am sorry. At least it comes out this week here.
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Saw this tonight. Never read the books. Thoroughly enjoyed it, Kieran Culkin is brilliant.
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Yep, enjoyed it!
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Haw haw
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It's pretty true
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no it's not
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maybe if you're only vaguely aware of twilight as a concept
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I'm trying to even figure out how to make that true and it's not possible.
I guess both Scott and Bella are kind of dumb? Except in Scott's case that's sort of the point that he's a bit of an asshole because he's so oblivious and lacking awareness of the consequences of his actions and the entire point is that he has to grow up while Bella is just kind of dumb and that's okay because she has so many boys falling over her teehee.
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Whoops actually I wrote that from my iPhone thinking this was the Expendables thread.
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lol
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I have to be totally honest and say I really didn't enjoy this movie, and the Twilight comparison sort-of-vaguely makes sense to me in that they both have this central character with really no redeeming qualities whatsoever, being fawned over by absurdly beautiful opposite-gender-types and my brain spends a lot of the movie time wondering if I am ever going to buy this relationship and no no I do not
:-(
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wait why does scott pilgrim have no redeeming qualities, OR are you talking about ramona flowers??
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i mean i understand that as an absurdly beautiful opposite-gender-type you might have no interest in fawning over a twenty-something putz who plays in a low-level indie rock band and loves video games and has terrible luck with women, but at least let those of us cognizant of the fantasy entertain said fantasy for a couple of hours
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I think Scott and Ramona (at the very least) have better actors/actresses than Edward and Bella.
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The thing that irritated me about Cera playing Scott is that throughout the whole movie I wasn't able to suspend disbelief and think that it was the character doing those things. It was always going through my head that it was Michael Cera doing his Michael Cera schtick while computer came references happened around him.
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Also going to throw this out there: I've never seen anything to convince me that Winstead is a better actress than Kristen Stewart. I'm willing to give Stewart a pass with Twilight-- what the fuck are you supposed to do with that role, anyway? Talk about thankless.
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i mean i understand that as an absurdly beautiful opposite-gender-type you might have no interest in fawning over a twenty-something putz who plays in a low-level indie rock band and loves video games and has terrible luck with women, but at least let those of us cognizant of the fantasy entertain said fantasy for a couple of hours
Could we really say that about any other rom-com, though? I haven't seen the film but everything I've read and heard leads me to believe that there isn't a whole lot of "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" dust on the film. The blame might not fall on anyone in particular - some people just can't enjoy a film in which there are no characters they can invest in, and not caring about a character doesn't necessarily entail a mistake on the part of the artist. Sometimes that's intentional (see: Naked, Withnail and I, In the Company of Men, the collected works of Todd Solondz, etc.) and the scuttlebutt certainly seems to be that Scott Pilgrim as a character is supposed to be intermittently moronic and almost constantly self-centered. That puts it a notch above rom-coms in which central characters who are assholes are supposed to be wholly sympathetic, but you can still "get it" and not like it.
I don't know if any of that made sense.
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i mean i understand that as an absurdly beautiful opposite-gender-type you might have no interest in fawning over a twenty-something putz who plays in a low-level indie rock band and loves video games and has terrible luck with women, but at least let those of us cognizant of the fantasy entertain said fantasy for a couple of hours
He doesn't actually seem to have terrible luck with women - he's had a fair number of past relationships for a guy his age, with quite lovely girls for the most part, and is generally the heartbreaker rather than the victim, apart from with Envy. He's difficult to invest in as a plausible romantic lead because he doesn't seem to have enough wonderful qualities to override his arrogance and his crappy treatment of Knives. But then, Ramona's main positive qualities could be generally characterised as being extremely cool, very attractive, and into the same things as Scott - she isn't actually a "better person" than Scott in any tangible way. She's been the heartbreaker to at least the same extent as Scott, they're on the same kinds of career paths (work to live, not live to work), and he has a creative pursuit she doesn't - the music. The only real difference between the two of them is in perceived attractiveness levels, and apparently Cera does it for a fair few people, physical-type-wise, since girls' magazines seem to find printing the occasional poster of him to be a profitable venture, so if you presume that Ramona's taste is slightly offbeat, they're pretty much on the same footing.
</person who hasn't yet read the comics>
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See, Ramona totally is the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" in the beginning of the comics. It's just as the comics develop, it becomes completely apparent how much like Scott she really is and how much she just has tons of flaws and baggage and refuses to deal with it. I don't think she has that same sort of development in the movie at all.
But yeah, Scott doesn't have terrible luck with women, he's just a terrible person. I mean, the two major female interests to him are a 17 year old girl who doesn't know better and is just star-struck by an older guy and Ramona, who is flaky and flits about from one guy to another without keeping any lasting emotional attachment to them while they remain obsessed with her.
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yo IDIOTS yunior was supposed to chomp the bait and talk me up as a handsome talented dude that the ladies be all up ons, do you even read my posts
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Saw this tonight. Loved the little shout-outs to Toronto, and the small touches they had. Did anyone else notice Young Neil was wearing an A Softer World t-shirt? (I am too lazy to read this thread whole thread to find out if anyone had mentioned it)
Anyway I even kind of liked Michael Cera in the role, though I did not expect to. Edgar Wright was the perfect choice to direct, I think he did a fantastic job. I did not have the best experience seeing it because the friends I went with were clearly not enjoying the film as much as I was and I felt guilty for suggesting it. I will have to go again with someone who can nerd out with me.
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sup
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I saw this a few days ago, thought it was really funny. I still want to read the books, since I know a lot had to get cut out to fit 6 volumes in 2 hours, but standing alone it did pretty well.
The accusations of twilight for boys miss one of the important differences. In Scott Pilgrim, Scott and Ramona are both flawed characters, their struggle involves trying to screw up less and fix their messed-up lives. Bella and Edward are presented as perfect, even when they quite obviously are terrible people.
Oddly enough, my biggest problems with the movie were music-related, Stephen Stills' acoustic sounded like an electric, and I'm pretty sure I noticed other things while i was there. And was I the only one that heard what sounded like an instrumental version of Black Flag's Nervous Breakdown during the random fight right before the Gideon fights? That wasn't a problem, though, just a surprise.
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the inadvertent comparison to twilight falls flat in that there are no scenes where native american dudes drive by in slow motion while a fucking wolf howls in the background
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before we seriously pursue what is honestly just a goofy mistake comparison let's step back and try to remember everything that twilight does wrong and then let's take a seat and maybe press something cold and damp to the side of our head to try to calm the impending embolism
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haven't seen the movie yet but i just read the books and holy shit they were fantastic.
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The Scott Pilgrim video game? Fucking amazing. Sure, I get my ass kicked a lot, but I have fun doing it.
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I 100% agree, my roommate has just the demo now, and it is such a good arcade style side scroll brawler. I really want him to buy the full game. the multiplayer is so much fun.
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So apparently Scott Pilgrim made so little money they haven't even covered their marketing costs yet.
Boo.
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I'm seeing it tomorrow. what's your excuse
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Yeah it's not even showing in my city anymore, which is really really dumb :[
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Regal dropped it but AMC and a couple indie theaters still have it. woo seattle, hipster towns 4eva
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Currently in the middle of vol 5 of the comics.
So, um, I can't help but notice that nearly everyone is often an asshole. (Kim and Wallace get exemptions for being generally fantastic.)
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That is an observation I have had about life.
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IT'S A METAPHOR
DIPSHIT
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THAT WAS SO GOOD.
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Currently in the middle of vol 5 of the comics.
So, um, I can't help but notice that nearly everyone is often an asshole. (Kim and Wallace get exemptions for being generally fantastic.)
Yeah, I read the first three in a couple of days and at some point just stopped and thought "holy shit, Scott is such a fucking oblivious douchebag" but then I kept reading and realised that he was supposed to be, and that it's kinda one of the plot threads. I didn't really like the way that the books tied things up at the end, without spoiling I'll say that I think they tried to over-explain a few things. On the whole it was good, I just would have liked a few more things left as-is.
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Regal dropped it but AMC and a couple indie theaters still have it. woo seattle, hipster towns 4eva
This is really upsetting, everyone I know who's seen it loved it.
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Yeah I don't know anyone who didn't like it. As of monday it's made back half its $60 million budget (plus another $7 million internationally) so it's pretty safe to say it's a bomb. DVD sales might help. I'm definitely buying it. I saw it twice in two days and loved it unconditionally both times. it might be one of my favorite movies of all time.
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I watched this movie on Sunday. It fucking ruled. How the hell did this not get any bigger? I've only read the first two chapters of the graphic novel, but it definitely seems like there's a lot more character development and story that got WAY glossed over in the movie.
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I'm probably going to wait for dvd before I see this. I know all you guys like it and the people I know who've seen it say it is good but frankly it looks like it's going to be an incredibly pretentious hipster film filled with entirely unlikeable characters and frankly I'm not willing to pay a shit ton of money to see it at the movies.
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Just think of it as Hot Fuzz or Shaun of the Dead, but parodying romantic comedies rather than police or zombie movies. With kung-fu battles.
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See, I don't understand this whole "They're unlikeable but it's part of the story maaaaan" bit. Not having the main character be someone I can stand has never been a good way of getting me to like a story. I mean, I can like horrible people in stories and all, both viliain and hero, but Scott Pilgrim and a vast majority of his friends do not sound like they would fit that criteria so I'm kinda with Jimmy really. As I said before, I think it's just quite simply that I'm not part of the rather specific market he's aimed at.
Still going to see and likely enjoy the movie.
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I wouldn't say they are unlikeable so much as they are very flawed, and make stupid decisions. Then again, I tend to like just about anybody, so I might not be the best judge.
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See, I don't understand this whole "They're unlikeable but it's part of the story maaaaan" bit. Not having the main character be someone I can stand has never been a good way of getting me to like a story. I mean, I can like horrible people in stories and all, both viliain and hero, but Scott Pilgrim and a vast majority of his friends do not sound like they would fit that criteria so I'm kinda with Jimmy really. As I said before, I think it's just quite simply that I'm not part of the rather specific market he's aimed at.
Still going to see and likely enjoy the movie.
I'm like this as well - there's a very fine line for me between 'interestingly flawed, let's watch you get redeemed' and 'man, you are so not worth an hour and a half of screen time'. And yet, still enjoyed the film, possibly because some of the comedy was really solid, partly because of the gorgeous effects and soundtrack, and partly because of how entertaining the secondary characters were.
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If the movie was not centered around Scott Pilgrim and the actor playing him, I would of really not taken notice of him. There wasn't much about his personality or presence that did anything for me, and he's honestly just a jerk being played awkwardly by a boring actor. Now taken into account there are secondary characters like the band and his roommate who are excellently played, and I can still watch and enjoy the movie.
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"They're unlikeable but it's part of the story maaaaan"
Well, part of the reason people make the distinction is that there's a lot of fiction (particularly fanfic, web comics and other amateur stuff) out there where the main character is an ass but the author apparently lacks the perspective to realize it, eventually resulting in something that's thoroughly awful and sometimes even morally offensive. For example, I've seen a lot of web comics and fanfiction in which a stereotypical "Nice Guy" is enshrined for "sticking up for himself" when really he's just being kind of a dick. Scott Pilgrim is at least expected go grow the fuck up by the end of the comic whereas a lot of lesser writers just expect you to believe that the protagonist's shit doesn't stink because they said so.
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Fair enough. That is something that shits me up something fierce.
I can appreciate that this is a well done story (by all accounts I've heard at least) and I'm not denying that at all just to be clear, but the characterization I'm told about by readers and Wikipedia makes me think that the protagonists of the story are insufferable douches and not characters I would enjoy in the least. Hell, the plot synopsis alone made me despise Scott and Ramona and that's a bit ridiculous.
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To be fair, I hate things where characters get away with being an ass all the time, and I hate them too. But in this case, it's redeemed in large part because Scott doesn't get away with it. He's constantly suffering the consequences of his behavior, and half of the story is him realizing that his self-image is terribly, terribly flawed.
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Fair enough. That is something that shits me up something fierce.
I can appreciate that this is a well done story (by all accounts I've heard at least) and I'm not denying that at all just to be clear, but the characterization I'm told about by readers and Wikipedia makes me think that the protagonists of the story are insufferable douches and not characters I would enjoy in the least. Hell, the plot synopsis alone made me despise Scott and Ramona and that's a bit ridiculous.
nah, they're exactly likable enough that the stupid shit they do makes you want to grab them by the shoulders and shake them, which at least like approximates normal human experience
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Seeing this for a third time tonight, so bloody stoked.
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This movie is so amazing, I want to own a movie theater so I can watch it over and over again.
This is no mere movie, it's a rock concert with amazing fighting.
I am sad to say I only saw this twice in theaters while my boyfriend saw it five times.
I don't even care if Michael-Chinless-Cera is in it. IT'S THAT GREAT.
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I bought the DVD today, and let me say that the trivia track is one of the best things ever.
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This thread reminded me that I needed to express my feelings about this film. Someone said earlier they couldn't suspend disbelief in Michael Cera. Neither could I, I found myself the whole way through looking for holes in his acting. He never really gelled as Pilgrim to me, certainly didn't help that I didn't think he really looked much like my imagined Pilgrim.
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The only character that looked like their counterpart was Lucas Lee.
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oh come on ramona was spot on
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Everybody was pretty spot on. Cera's the possible exception if only because his interpretation of the character was a little mellower than the comics. And I still loved him anyway.
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Having watched it again I didn't like Kim in it. She was just grumpy the whole movie
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they didn't give her character enough material for her to do anything else
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Kim's bursts of energy with her count-offs made me love her instantly.
The portrayal of Kim was beautiful with subtle looks, and her pain was captured in her first encounter with Ramona.
She starts to remember the fun times when they dated, and then reminded herself that "he's an idiot."
I liked her a lot.
P.S.
In Sex Bob-Omb's last scene, Young Neil eats a quarter.
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When she was laughing in the bloopers I loved her more.
Also Knives x Scott Alternate ending?
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I have never read any of the Scott Pilgrim books. After watching the movie, I will now be devouring all of them.
That was like wrapping my childhood in ecstasy, dipping it in chocolate, and then giving it a spiked collar, just for the fun of it.
That was one fun fucking movie.
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not sure if i should post this here or start a whole new thread but the game is so friggin awesome. I d/l it the other day and have been hooked since. Everything great about the ole beat-em-up 8bit games is in it. Sadly the only thing missing is online co-op which is really a travesty since you can play 4characters at once. Oh the fun that would have ensued.
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It's rather intimately tied into the "People over 30 won't get it" issue. A few video game references here and there doesn't do much to offset the "It's like an illustrated Relationship Thread" problem for me despite all my geekyness.
refer back to my conversation with keiffer on page 1
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I am surprised this thread is still going, and I would like to add that I am watching this film at home right now on Blu-ray and I still love it. It is definitely now one of my Official Favourite Films of All Time.
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Well it wasn't til you posted again!
The DVD isn't released in the UK until January (well, 27th Dec), and I missed it in the cinemas, so I can't yet comment on whether it is as good as the books (and I'm over 30...).
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Honestly, this film is the first one I've seen where I felt watching it on Blu-ray over DVD is justified. It is so damn gorgeous. Any potential plot/character/acting weakness aside, it is at least quality audio/visual entertainment.
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I just got this from the library. I thought it was pretty entertaining.
Also there was a bit of animation that sums up some of the stuff that wasn't in the movie that I somehow never saw before I watched the movie which is a shame. It's kinda neat as a bridge between the books and the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BitByGeWGxU&feature=related
Also Brie Larson singing Black Sheep was really entertaining to me for some reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGB4VDQI6XM
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It bothers me that I can rent The Human Centipede on Netflix but not Scott Pilgrim vs The World.
What are your priorities Canada?
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for some reason that made me think of a human centipede-scott pilgrim crossover
:psyduck:
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for some reason that made me think of a human centipede-scott pilgrim crossover
:psyduck:
and add Salo (120 days of sodom) there too and i would watch it.