Jeph Jacques's comics discussion forums

Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: JD on 18 Feb 2009, 17:33

Title: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: JD on 18 Feb 2009, 17:33
Am I the only one who still plays this game? I hope not.

So Valve has finally got around to releasing the next update. It's the Scout (http://www.tf2.com/scoutupdate)

It's gonna be a lot of fun to be a natascha wielding heavy or an engineer for a couple of days.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 18 Feb 2009, 17:44
fuck why do i live in a house without the internet?!

also, why do i not own a computer?!

...and why the fuck is my 360 broken so i can't even PRETEND to be playing this on PC?!


GAAHHHHHH
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Ozymandias on 18 Feb 2009, 17:57
Holy shit, The Sandman.

Ultimate uber buster. That's a hell of a disadvantage too, though.

Dang.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Melodic on 18 Feb 2009, 22:33
It's not out yet. Should be up soon, though.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 19 Feb 2009, 11:40
 it comes out on the 24th.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Trollstormur on 19 Feb 2009, 21:28
my steam account was stolen :(

valve is dragging their asses on getting it back for me.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 20 Feb 2009, 15:49
The Energy drink looks interesting. The Achievements also look rather difficult. 
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Ozymandias on 20 Feb 2009, 18:20
Nah, those achievements don't sound too bad. I can see getting most of those through normal play.

The map update makes me curious, though. It suggests the new scattershot will make the Scout even more ridiculously mobile.

I think this might be the best update for any class thus far. It's turning the scout into the ultimate support class.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 20 Feb 2009, 20:29
The Ubersaw and the Blutsager were pretty good. Also, I've played on the Egypt map. It's pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 23 Feb 2009, 14:07
So, updates to Fastlane? There's a map that could use a little attention. (I'm pulling a backup copy of the current version out of the .gcf anyway, just in case.)

It's currently 5 PM on Monday, and they haven't put up the Monday update. Don't you just love Valve Time? :lol:

Looks like there's a double-barrel shotgun and a payload race map coming.

What will be the next "Meet The X" video, Spy, Medic, or Pyro?
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 23 Feb 2009, 18:48
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/force-a-nature.htm

Sawed-off double-barrel shotgun with tons of knockback. Imagine the jump possibilities with this sucker...
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 23 Feb 2009, 19:03
I love the presentation. It's also pretty awesome they are letting us choose what comes out first. Vote For Bonk!
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 23 Feb 2009, 19:06
Agreed!

1. Bonk
2. Force a Nature
3. The Sandman
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: TheViscount on 23 Feb 2009, 19:08
Being in Japan actually restricts me from playing the games I want to play. God damnit. QC server anyone?
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 24 Feb 2009, 19:03
The Force-a-Nature (http://store.steampowered.com/poll/2) won. oh well

Who else thinks that the sandman and the Force-a-Nature won't work well together?
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 24 Feb 2009, 19:29
ok, it's officially out though it is a bitch to update. FYI
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 24 Feb 2009, 19:39
Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

New features
Added The Force-A-Nature, The Sandman, and Bonk!
Added 35 new Scout achievements
Added crit boosted on/off sound effects
Added new sounds for upgraded teleporters
Added new sound for a fully charged medic dying
Add bonus points section to scores
Scouts earn a bonus point for killing Medics who are actively healing a target
Added several new speech concepts, mostly hooked up to new Scout lines
Added new "Remember last weapon between lives" option to the Multiplayer Advanced dialog
Spies can now control which weapon the enemy team sees them holding. Hitting the "last disguise" key while disguised updates the disguise to show the Spy's currently held weapon
Added several new Arena mode announcer speech events.
Added "First Blood" to Arena mode
Removed 2x item respawn times in arena
Changed backstab handling to fix facestabs
Spies disguised as enemy team can now see player IDs for enemies
New maps
Added community maps: cp_egypt, arena_watchtower, and cp_junction
Updated cp_fastlane with Arttu's new version
Mapmaker requests
Added new input for forward speed modifier to FuncTrainTrain
Added TeleportToPathTrack input to func_tracktrain
Bugfixes
Fixed a bug where players would sometimes gib from non-gib damage kills
Fixed stat screen showing an entry for a class called "map."
Fixed item model panels not using team skins
- Fixed obscure bug where spectators were able to carry the flag


no more triple posting I promise



Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 24 Feb 2009, 20:15
"Spies can now control which weapon the enemy team sees them holding. "

I like how they just slipped that in there. That should make the "waah disguises are useless" spies happy.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 26 Feb 2009, 15:22
Actually, It feels a bit like a nerf because people always check you. Havent earned the weapons yet, servers are so clogged with scouts.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 27 Feb 2009, 14:58
"Gee, it sure is scout around here" is the best way to describe practically every server now. Oh well, more noob scouts running around to light on fire. :-D

Thoughts on the new unlocks:

Sandman: It's fun to knock people out with it, but I wish alt-fire hit the ball and normal fire swung the bat. How else are you supposed to bat enemy stickies? Also, the ball's hitbox for picking it up should be bigger. Right now it likes to roll into inaccessible places like under the boxcars in Well. Also, the knockout time should be halved on ubered enemies. It takes long enough for a medic to build that up, just to have some scout half a map away make it useless. (Never mind multiple Sandman-wielding scouts.) I'm not saying take the counter-uber away completely, just shorten it. I've heard people liken it to the pyro's compression blast, but at least when they're doing that you can kill them.

Force A Nature: Whee, extra jumps! But I think the knockback is overpowered; if it's made to do more damage up close, isn't sending your target 20 feet away counterintuitive? I got it, played with it for a bit, and went back to the scattergun. It does roughly the same amount of damage, but with a higher clip capacity.

Bonk!: Another fun toy to play with, but so far I find the pistol more useful.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 03 Mar 2009, 13:20
Team Fortress 2 comic books?!? (http://wire.ggl.com/2009/02/19/valve-is-making-tf2-comic-books/)

New game mode/New classes (http://wire.ggl.com/2009/01/21/tf2-gets-a-new-very-different-game-mode-soon/)

Big changes heading to TF2
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: snalin on 03 Mar 2009, 14:25
So I just remembered that my dad had bought the Orange Box a while back. I wanna play this now!

Any good advice on how to find games where noobs won't be hated?
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: snalin on 03 Mar 2009, 14:30
Can you play team fortress single player? This is new to me.

Also, steam is stupid and won't let me download "right now". Stupid steam.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 03 Mar 2009, 14:50
I don't know what servers you play on. I don't get any of that crap.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 03 Mar 2009, 14:57
strangely enough, the people that usually play TF2 on the 360 are usually pretty nice to "noobs" and generally not representative of the douche-bag majority on XBL.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Jace on 04 Mar 2009, 00:56
That's because they're all playing Halo, brah.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 21 Apr 2009, 15:11
Bump

 TF2 update (http://www.firstpersonshouter.com/?p=451)

What is this headgear thing about?
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Darke on 21 Apr 2009, 17:44
I have no idea, but I think I trust Valve enough to expect good things from it.

I expect that it'll actually effect gameplay, though. I'd feel pretty disappointed if I just end up with a silly hat that doesn't actually do anything but look silly.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 22 Apr 2009, 17:27
If you look into TF2 txt files you will find this:

TF_Wearable_Headgear”                ”Headgear”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Scout”            ”Batter’s Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Sniper”            ”Tooth Belt”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Soldier”        ”Soldier’s Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Demoman”        ”Fro”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Medic”            ”Medic’s Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Pyro”            ”Pyro’s Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Heavy”            ”Football Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Engineer”        ”Mining Helmet”
“TF_Unique_Headgear_Spy”            ”Spy’s Helmet”


Demofro!

EDIT: should probably link the place i got it from

http://www.ubercharged.net/2009/04/21/a-look-at-tf2%E2%80%99s-soon-to-be-used-content-part-25/ (http://www.ubercharged.net/2009/04/21/a-look-at-tf2%E2%80%99s-soon-to-be-used-content-part-25/)
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Darke on 23 Apr 2009, 06:51
Man, the Demoman gets a 'fro and my Medic just gets "Medic's Helmet"? Pfft. :(
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Beren on 23 Apr 2009, 08:37
Tooth belt.

Riggght.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 23 Apr 2009, 10:17
i think the helmets are just placeholders for the things they haven't come up with yet.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 23 Apr 2009, 11:22
Yeah, that's the idea. We're just curious what those helmets will do.

I'm betting the next update will be sniper or spy.
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: bicostp on 23 Apr 2009, 12:05
Sniper.

Quote from: Valve
It's been a couple of weeks since we posted, so we thought it'd be good to do some housekeeping. The next class pack will focus on the Sniper. It's actually shaping up to be the largest TF2 update yet, with multiple new maps and a bunch of gameplay tweaks. In addition, we've got another update in the works that should be done before the Sniper, and that one will include some new content for all classes.
(emphasis mine)

http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2394
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: JD on 23 Apr 2009, 12:40
 This is awesome (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/peejar.jpg)
Title: Re: Who's the tough guy now?
Post by: Beren on 23 Apr 2009, 13:51
Haha, made in New Zealand
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 01 May 2009, 22:48
TF2 won't become an RPG (http://www.firstpersonshouter.com/?p=476)

Thank god
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Trollstormur on 02 May 2009, 08:46
actual data from valve tf2 cfg files:

Code: [Select]
// TF2 MMO
"TF_MMO_LFG" "Looking For Group"
"TF_MMO_Quest1" "You must kill %s1 %s2 to complete this quest."
"TF_MMO_Monster1" "Boars"
"TF_MMO_Monster2" "Rats"
"TF_MMO_Monster3" "Bats"
"TF_MMO_Monster4" "Wolves"
"TF_MMO_Monster5" "Spiders"
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 04 May 2009, 19:52
(http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hair_demo-600x375.jpg)

The fro!
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Felrender on 04 May 2009, 21:25
(http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hair_demo-600x375.jpg)

The fro!

Can we assume that this post counts as any and every Pulp fiction reference we can make?


quote=/=edit
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 May 2009, 21:35
Say huddahuddahudda again. SAY HUDDAHUDDAHUDDA AGAIN. I dare you, I double dare you, motherfucker. Say huddahuddahudda one more goddamn time.

...

Alright, I'm good now.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Melodic on 04 May 2009, 23:00
Fuck you Ozy I just spewed milk all over my keyboard.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: bicostp on 05 May 2009, 06:38
http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/hair_demo-600x375.jpg
The fro!

Can we assume that this post counts as any and every Pulp fiction reference we can make?


quote=/=edit

Not quite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFQHZq9H2aw

Obviously very NFSW.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Inlander on 05 May 2009, 06:44
That stands for "Not Fucking Safe for Work".
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 10 May 2009, 10:17
Valve made an interesting blog post

Blag (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2477)

Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 10 May 2009, 10:30
So this new weapon will make you decidedly more killable?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 10 May 2009, 10:33
It will make the sniper less annoying.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: snalin on 12 May 2009, 12:29
If it will make me go "FUCK AHRG SHITSNIPER FUCK!" less, then this is good. I don't do it that much anymore, mostly because I've learned that "I will avenge you by charging blindly on" is no good idea. Open expanses are also to be avoided. Still, those skilled snipers (and spies)... GODDAWMN!
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 12 May 2009, 13:38
Oh yes. (http://www.teamfortress.com/sniperupdate/)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 12 May 2009, 14:11
Awesome
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Ozymandias on 12 May 2009, 14:18
Man. Every class has an anti-uber technique these days.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: snalin on 12 May 2009, 14:27
Oh YES.

But if this will kill my übered Heavy ass, it will not make me happy. It will make me very, very angry.

Does it shoot arrows straight, or do they curve?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 12 May 2009, 14:35
I'm betting there will be a curve.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Felrender on 12 May 2009, 20:06
I'm betting there will be a curve.

And thus, anyone who mastered any Flash arrow game will be able to rain hell.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: KvP on 12 May 2009, 20:16
Somebody needs to mod it so that instead of doing damage it causes players to fall in love and their directional keys / sticks to reverse their orientation.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: est on 12 May 2009, 20:17
Quote
"Now, hold on," you might be thinking. "I'm strong, but no one could throw an arrow that hard."

Tops
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Trollstormur on 14 May 2009, 14:05
I bet the velocity, damage and curve is affected by the charge-up.

also today's item is very, very silly.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Felrender on 14 May 2009, 18:54
I bet the velocity, damage and curve is affected by the charge-up.

also today's item is very, very avesome.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 14 May 2009, 20:32
Awesomely silly?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: snalin on 14 May 2009, 23:50
So you get protection from those pesky spies, but you can't really fight back? Well, it's better than instant death, I guess.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Felrender on 15 May 2009, 05:45
So you get protection from those pesky spies, but you can't really fight back? Well, it's better than instant death, I guess.

Well, does it replace the Kukri, or the SMG?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 15 May 2009, 15:12
Can't wait for this update to come out now.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Ozymandias on 15 May 2009, 15:33
Holy shit, today's thing.

Holy shit.

Holy shit holy shit.

SO AWESOME.

After seeing the Sniper's shield I was like "goddammit, more screwing over of the spies" and then BAM. WOO. WOOOOOO.

AWESOME.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: bicostp on 15 May 2009, 17:45
Is this the first update with 2 items to optionally replace the others?

I see a whole wave of n00bspies (like me) in the future... Pub servers are going to be fun.

Hudda hudda huh, motherf-----rs :twisted:
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Trollstormur on 15 May 2009, 21:02
I'm gonna have a lot of fun as scout. :3
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: PrickOfDestiny on 16 May 2009, 07:17
Holy shit, today's thing.
I shat so many bricks. But my avatar completely expresses my views about this update.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 16 May 2009, 09:50
I've never particularly found spies or snipers to be annoying to begin with, really. Also, as a primarily medic player, I kinda think anything that screws ubers over a bit is a good thing, on balance, so I don't really mind people having potential uber counters provided they are tricky to use. After all, we're a big asset in any sort of matchup as it is, but on pubs we're basically the hand of god and victory goes to whoever wins the halfway-decent-Medic arms race.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Avec on 16 May 2009, 10:14
Is it safe to say that the 360 version isn't getting any updates?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Melodic on 16 May 2009, 10:50
It's safe to say that the 360 will get the updates much later, bundled, and may have a pricetag attached thanks to M$.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Ozymandias on 16 May 2009, 10:56
It's safe to say that the 360 will get the updates much later, bundled, and may have a pricetag attached thanks to M$.

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Melodic on 16 May 2009, 11:41
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/324/38851804.jpg)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 16 May 2009, 13:13
Awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FelFz8wXEWo&feature=channel)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 16 May 2009, 19:32
Someone taunted me for being a camper today! I haven't had that happen in ages, so it really felt like a blast from the past. It was funny though, because something in the guy's voice just said his heart wasn't really in it. I mean, I was working on my 9th unmolested kill in a payload map and had so far twice disrupted attempted ubers thanks to my stickies and an assist from a friendly medic. We both knew I wasn't going to merrily prance around that corner and into the loving arms of his crit rockets, so I do have to wonder a bit why he even bothered. I understand the theory behind taunting, it just doesn't hit me as worth the breath.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Trollstormur on 16 May 2009, 19:55
demo is kinda a camper class

i mean, that's like taunting a spy for not just coming out and attacking you rather than sneaking around.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: bicostp on 16 May 2009, 21:06
I mostly play Pyro. You won't believe how much "hurr W+M1 n00b!!1" I hear on public servers. (http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5742/facepalmpd6.gif) Of course, then they accuse me of cheating as I flank them with my backburner ("omg how you get behind us?!" on levels like Dustbowl stage 3, cap 2), chop away with the Axtinguisher, and blast away with my shotgun when they're out of range.

The only time I W+M1 is on offense on payload maps. If you run laps around the cart, spraying fire everywhere, you can pretty much keep your team safe from spies. (They can try anyway if they want, and they usually do. Oh well, free kills.)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Melodic on 16 May 2009, 21:36
I had to Google "W+M1".
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 16 May 2009, 22:39
Oddly enough, I always thought being a good pyro is a lot like being a good medic; your aim doesn't need to be perfect but there's tons of situational awareness involved. You need to realize where players are most likely to knot up in small packs and you have to have a good feel for when a team should uber or make a big push. You then use that knowledge to rain fiery doom from above as you drop behind the opposing team and completely trash their push attempt mere moments before they would have ubered. Bonus points if you can punt a medic off a ledge with your compressor.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: MadassAlex on 17 May 2009, 07:16
Frankly, the best thing about the Pyro class is going on axe-murdering sprees behind enemy lines. There's nothing like coming up behind a Sniper just for him to turn around soon enough to see his face get filled with iron. Oh, and the sound effects.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 17 May 2009, 08:07
Meet the Spy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTfuKAfhLFM)

Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Blue Kitty on 17 May 2009, 10:07
I love you Valve
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Felrender on 17 May 2009, 10:58
"And now he is here to F**k us!"

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Avec on 17 May 2009, 11:28
I second the I Love Valve slogan.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Trollstormur on 17 May 2009, 13:02
pretty nice leak. i wonder if the red spy did it.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 May 2009, 13:24
Not a leak.

It was posted to Steam last night.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: snalin on 17 May 2009, 13:25
That one is gold. Definitely the best so far.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 17 May 2009, 14:07
I dunno, I'd tie it with the scout and engineer as my least favorite, actually.

[EDIT] Actually, I watched the scout again and I liked that one better. It's all the time spent on stabbing, really, since I find violence to be a lot less entertaining than humor.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 18 May 2009, 10:29
Meet The Sniper was my favorite.

he's all talking on the phone to his parents and shit, like a regular person.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 18 May 2009, 10:38
Yeah, that one's my favorite too. He just wants Dad to put Mum on the phone.


Also, the whole "Feelings? Look mate, you know who has a lot feelings? Blokes who bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy" line is pure gold. It I'm the sort of person who more or less values discipline over sentiment, so it was kinda weird knowing exactly what he meant and partly agreeing with him despite the fact that he's uh, let's just say, morally flexible. A nice reminder that it's best to find a happy medium, I guess.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: JD on 18 May 2009, 16:25
Achievements have been released. The last one is the best.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: SirJuggles on 18 May 2009, 21:47
Woah woah woah. I just noticed something exceedingly suspicious in the Meet the Spy Video. At the very beginning, when the Blue Soldier is looking at the wall of alert notices, there are some pretty amusing ones not lit up. But if you look into the lower-left corner, one of the possible alarms reads "leaked video". Questionable??? ?  :? :? :?
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 May 2009, 22:23
(http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/bluebase.jpg)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: bicostp on 18 May 2009, 22:33
And the BLU Scout in the video has the Sandman, but he's really the RED Spy .

Does this mean Spies will be able to disguise with unlockable weapons from now on?

(Hidden to not spoil it for all 3 people who haven't watched it yet.)
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 19 May 2009, 08:54
I'm pretty certain that the Scout is the best character Valve has created for this game.  I sat through the Spy video chuckling basically every time he came on screen.

Also, yo mama jokes will never get old.

Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Dimmukane on 19 May 2009, 09:03
So apparently Valve fired everyone at the company for the leak.  Marc Laidlaw got fired twice.  Hilarity abound at the TF2 blog.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Melodic on 19 May 2009, 10:46
That's fucking hilarious, I know that Eric. Also Laidlaw deserves to be fired twice I reckon. 
Also
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: Alex C on 19 May 2009, 11:34
I'm not sure there was ever a time I found your mom jokes funny. Not a judgement, just sayin'. It kinda sucks, actually, since that means a good 60% of voicechat communication is completely lost on me.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 19 May 2009, 14:42
I could see this new gun getting some use.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 19 May 2009, 15:05
It's so pretty. Also if I am ever in a blood feud with someone I am making it a point to have the reclining form of their mother engraved onto my gun.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 19 May 2009, 15:50
I'm not sure there was ever a time I found your mom jokes funny. Not a judgement, just sayin'. It kinda sucks, actually, since that means a good 60% of voicechat communication is completely lost on me.

They've only ever been good ironically, which is why it is so boss in the Meet the Spy video, IMO. 




Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Alex C on 19 May 2009, 16:16
I think we're working with different definitions of irony. I like Valve and I think they are funny, but they use broad humor as often as not. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Darke on 19 May 2009, 19:19
I'm not sure how I'm going to deal with the inevitable swarm of snipers and spies that's going to come with this update. I usually play Demoman or Medic, both of which will become pretty obsolete for a while.

I suppose I could go Pyro and set fire to everyone. Or I could just abandon all self-respect and join in the disgusting spy/sniper killfest.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 19 May 2009, 20:55
great, now spies have TWO ways to get double points on kills, and along with the sapper, they'll just be generating shitloads of points :P
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 20 May 2009, 03:15
http://tf2.done21.com/#

...Thought someone might enjoy this thing.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 May 2009, 13:29
Remember during the Scout Updated when they had a mail in coupon?  If you don't, here it is:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/05/mailcoupon.jpg)

Well it just so happens that some people decided to print it out and turn it in.  Here is the response they got:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/05/mannco.jpg)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 20 May 2009, 15:38
Saxton Hale is an anagram for Hot Anal Sex
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 20 May 2009, 16:38
Also, I love how his description is: Saxton Hale, Australian.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 20 May 2009, 17:35
Jarate is real, after all.

http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/

Also free weekend starts tomorrow.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 20 May 2009, 17:40
I think I know what the "Friendship is golden" achievement will involve.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Ozymandias on 20 May 2009, 17:43
...I am in awe of this update.

Greatest thing Valve has ever done.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 20 May 2009, 17:45
I'm betting this will replace the kukri.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 20 May 2009, 18:07
you think so? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sademie/tf_sniper_jarate_chop.png)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 21 May 2009, 17:43
I am not known for always being right.



PS, the update is out
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 21 May 2009, 21:28
TF2 is apparently free to play for this weekend. That probably won't make a difference to any of you, but I've been swamped with classwork lately and not been able to justify paying for another timewaster, as awesome as it is. So until now I have been living vicariously through the TF2 blog and all of you. For the next few days, that may change. Why must I be so busy this weekend?  :-(
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Darke on 22 May 2009, 10:07
So then... random item drops. Who's furious?  :-D
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 22 May 2009, 10:53
Me! Played for 3 hours yesterday, got absolutely nothing, had to listen to everyone else whine about getting their 5'th Kritzkreig. Really, there wasn't anything wrong with the old system. At least achievement farmers had to do something to get the new weapons; now all you have to do is park yourself in the spawn of a 24/7 2Fort server and not play the game for a few hours.

I'm more pissed about a nasty bug with Jaratre: it completely blinds you when you're running in DX 8 mode  :x :x. (And my laptop is the only PC I have that runs the game well, and it can only run it in DX 8, so it's the only way I can play the game.  :-( )

See what I did there?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 22 May 2009, 15:53
I played it for about an hour or two when it came out last night. Whenever I stabbed a spy, I crashed.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 22 May 2009, 20:37
Ok, I'm not getting that problem anymore. The ambassador is a lot of fun to use.

Has anyone got a hat yet?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 23 May 2009, 20:20
(http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/images/07_comic.jpg)

(http://www.ubercharged.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/insult_original.jpg)

The similarities are uncanny.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Alex C on 23 May 2009, 21:52
Well, that pretty much is the point of parody.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 24 May 2009, 08:08
Been playing for quite a few hours since the update came out, and so far I've gotten:

- KGB (already had it)
- Sandvitch (already had it)
- Force-a-Nature (already had it)
- Razorback (actually kinda useful)
- Dead Ringer (but i don't play Spy a lot D:)
- Dead Ringer (WTF Valve I said I don't play Spy a lot)

Already threw away the extra Sandvitch, will probably trade the spare KGB for a spare Ubersaw, and I already have a friend who plays Spy a lot who's willing to trade his extra Huntsman for my extra Dead Ringer. (Now we just have to wait for them to implement that feature.)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 24 May 2009, 12:47
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sademie/30wt3ip1.png) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sademie/30wt3ip.png)


good game, valve.

good game.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Ozymandias on 24 May 2009, 14:12
Hungry?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 24 May 2009, 14:19
I hear the more achievements you get, the more likely you will get a random drop.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 24 May 2009, 14:28
seems false.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: LTK on 25 May 2009, 06:31
Man, I should really learn to suck less at TF2. I've had it since getting the Orange Box when it came out. How do I get into it?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 25 May 2009, 07:36
Play Medic for a few hours. You'll learn enough to play the rest of the classes after that.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Headwoünd on 25 May 2009, 08:46
You could also look up some instructional videos (by EvilDaedalus (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=EvilDaedalus&view=videos) for example).
Here's (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639355) a thread listing guides. Helpful stuff especially for newcomers who just joined the madness of TF2 and might be a bit overwhelmed. I know I was, but you'll get used to grenades, rockets, bullets everywhere.

And damn I want that bow. Got Jarate and Cloak and Dagger watch so far.
Wish we could trade already - the watch is a complete waste in my incapable spy-hands.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 25 May 2009, 10:04
I want that watch so bad.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Darke on 25 May 2009, 10:22
Yeah the Cloak and Dagger is awesome. The charge on it runs down really fast when you're moving, so it takes a while to get wherever you want to go. But then you just find a nice spot, cloak forever and stab anyone silly enough to slow down near you.

I really want the Huntsman, though. I saw a Heavy with an arrow through his head stuck to a wall on Pipeline earlier and it was just... epic.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 25 May 2009, 11:26
Right. So I finally broke down and bought this game that I have been wanting for a while now over this discount weekend. Unfortunately, this and the next week may turn out to be my busiest days of the entire year. So for now I just have to see that little icon sitting on my desktop, crying out to me...
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 25 May 2009, 14:14
^^ well hey there's still achievement_idle so you can feel like you've accomplished something.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Alex C on 25 May 2009, 19:33
Fun fact: I have 1 minute and 27 seconds of time played as a spy. Of course, this means I already have the watch and the gun.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Reed on 25 May 2009, 19:39
I think I have about twice your spy time and I have two of the gun.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 26 May 2009, 15:33
I think they should rearrange the demoman's weapons so the sticky launcher is the primary.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 26 May 2009, 16:24
I have finally gotten the huntsman. It is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 26 May 2009, 16:38
Just logged on to play for the first time today. This is... quite fun. I'm not sure if it's my laptop or the network or the servers or what, but so far all the games I've joined have been... not really laggy. But un-smooth enough to make aiming impossible. I'm sticking with the medic, since healing doesn't require much smooth motion.

Oh, SN is SirJuggles, of course.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 26 May 2009, 17:01
Pyros don't either.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 26 May 2009, 17:14
what the fuck ever, pyros are harder to aim than any class in the game.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 26 May 2009, 17:18
More than sniper?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Alex C on 26 May 2009, 17:32
It's closer than you'd think, particularly if you think in terms of being effective rather than merely pitching in an odd point of damage here and there. Both classes have very short windows of opportunity to work with if you expect to actually kill anyone worth bothering with rather than simply giving their medic something to do. I mean, yes, the pyro's attack technically affects a cone, so you can do a passable job of smearing scrubs and vulturing kills with one, but against a smart player (particularly soldiers and heavies) you need to roast him with everything you've got and can't really afford to leave damage potential on the table. Even then you probably should be working on your escape route the second they start turning towards you.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 26 May 2009, 17:38
On an unrelated note, you can put fires out with the airblast now. Useful!
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Reed on 26 May 2009, 19:20
I love playing as a pyro, and I have to say that the force of nature is a huge pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 27 May 2009, 13:58
You can also put out fires with a big jar of piss.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 30 May 2009, 12:30
You can get all the unlockables by achievements now.

The Jarate is the best thing that could ever happen to the sniper.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Headwoünd on 01 Jun 2009, 13:05
I think they should rearrange the demoman's weapons so the sticky launcher is the primary.

Please keep your mindless gamebreaking suggestions to yourself.
No one would be able to stop even a novice winbombing Demoman once they are freed of rotating the scrollwheel right after they spawn.

Seriously, put a little thought into what you're going to post. God.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Ozymandias on 01 Jun 2009, 13:33
I...I think it was a sarcastic post.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Inlander on 01 Jun 2009, 21:55
God.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: snalin on 02 Jun 2009, 14:10
And here I came, searching for serious TF2 discussion.

What I'm trying to say here is: "fuck you".


And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 02 Jun 2009, 14:11
all of the above
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Headwoünd on 03 Jun 2009, 05:36
And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?

If you play against a team that doesn't know how to coordinate their ubercharges, bonk'd Scouts or Spy/Pyro sap'n'grill frenzies to get rid of sentry-nests, it's just that easy.

Often only one halfway decent Demoman or a bit more decent Spy could be enough to eliminate a lone sentry and its Engineer.
So they are by no means overpowered, but getting rid of two or three sentries at one place requires some teamplay.

But all in all I think the learning curve for playing a defensive Engineer is lower than for playing the other classes.
You know where those pesky turtlers set up their sentries from playing other classes. So when you pack a wrench yourself you're most likely use those same spots for putting up your base.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 03 Jun 2009, 20:03
And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?


it's because you weren't playing with me
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: KvP on 03 Jun 2009, 20:30
And when I get more points than I have ever gotten the very first time I play engineer, does this mean that engineers are really good, that I suck at everything else, that I was lucky, or something completely different?
The Engineer is the class that is the easiest to play effectively, but in general how effective you can be with a certain class is heavily influenced by the map you're on, since the map layout plays to classes' strengths and weaknesses. Maps with a lot of chokepoints play well for pyros, demos and heavies and are difficult for snipers and scouts, while wide-open maps are the opposite. There's a particular map, a control-point map (where there are 5 possible, you start off with 1 and have to capture the rest) in which you can rack up 40 or 50 kills minimum in a single life as an engineer just by placing your sentry in a particular spot, making it an unavoidable defense of the control point, one that's invulnerable against everything but ubered enemies (which itself should be a problem with a good coordinated defense)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Jun 2009, 07:15
Finally got all my new toys last night.

Then just played an engy in weird ways because the server/team I was on had 6 fuckin' snipers and 3 spies. It was absurdly fun, though. No one expects an engy to pop out of nowhere and shotgun them to death.

Anyone get a hat yet?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Headwoünd on 04 Jun 2009, 09:23
I want that Pickelhaube bad..
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: öde on 04 Jun 2009, 09:39
Offensive engineering is my favourite sport.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: snalin on 04 Jun 2009, 12:36
A sentry in the face of their spawn? oh yes, baby, oh yes.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: KvP on 04 Jun 2009, 14:42
Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 05 Jun 2009, 07:44
Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.

only if you aren't playing against me

I eat sentry farms for breakfast
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 05 Jun 2009, 09:47
That... can't be good for your digestion. Your colon must be 6 feet of ground beef.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 05 Jun 2009, 11:59
Nothing quite like getting an engi into a 2Fort enemy base, teleporting in 3 other engis and creating an unassailable defense in their intel room.

Of course they get pissed off, but if they were retarded enough to let you build in their intel room, they have no right to complain. :wink:
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 05 Jun 2009, 15:40
A little saddened. Even with all the audio and video settings on low, my laptop seems intent on driving this thing into unplayability. I usually give up when I start hitting single-digit framerates. I just bought this laptop less than a year ago, I am highly disappointed  :-(
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 05 Jun 2009, 16:03
What are the specs? (CPUz (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) and GPUz (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/) screenshots are the most helpful.) Does it have Intel graphics? Are you running in DX 8 mode? Have you tried any FPS configs, or did you just change the settings in the Options menu?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 05 Jun 2009, 22:53
bought this laptop less than a year ago
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 05 Jun 2009, 22:59
Yes, I know it's a laptop that's less than a year old. I'm running TF2 at 20-25 FPS on a 3 year old HP Pavilion dv5000 with a 2.0 ghz single-core Turion and Mobility Radeon Xpress 200m graphics. It took some serious tweaking, but it plays just fine.

Unless it has an Intel video chipset, it should run one way or another.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 06 Jun 2009, 00:15
I believe this (http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu230/SirJuggles/ComputerInfo.jpg) may be what you are looking for? I'll admit that most of this is gibberish to me. I haven't messed around too much with any settings outside of the in-game options. No Intel graphics that I'm aware of. I'll admit I don't know what DX 8 is, though I'm running the most recent update of DirectX that I know of (I suspect that's what you mean?). There is also a slight chance that the bad performance is coming from the university network I'm on, though that handled BF2 just fine. All in all... well it is yet another technical mystery, which seem to crop up all too often, and if it continues it will not be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 06 Jun 2009, 10:06
DirectX 10 is the most recent DX model, but 9 is what Valve games operate in DX9 standard. If you're experiencing poor performance, you can force the game to run in DirectX 8, which will look like shite but also play better. To do so, right click on TF2 in Steam, click Properties, then Set Lanch Option. Type: "-dxlevel 80", and run.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 06 Jun 2009, 13:08
1.6 ghz is kind of pushing it, but it's dual-core so you might see some increase if you enable multithreading.

Start with an FPS config like this one:
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/322476/

Before you even start the game, open Task Manager and kill unnecessary services, and right-click Steam and set it to 'Low' priority. Then right-clikc explorer.exe and kill it. Your desktop and taskbar will disappear, but you can bring Task Manager back up and run explorer.exe again after you're done.

I like these launch options:

Code: [Select]
-dxlevel 80 -width 1280 -height 800 -novid -console
Only run TF2 with "-dxlevel 80" once. Before you play it again, remove that line. If you don't, the game will reset the graphics settings to the DX 8 defaults every time you start it. Set -width and -height to your screen's native resolution. -novid disables the Valve logo video, which shaves a few seconds off the load time. -console just enables the console.

Once it's started, enter these console commands one at a time:

dsp_slow_cpu 1
r_eyemove 0
fps_max 30
r_eyegloss 0

There are literally hundreds of console commands you can tinker with to squeeze more playability out of it, but these plus the config file should help a lot. :D

Adding more RAM to your laptop (get it to 2 gigs) will help too, both for gaming and general use. Also check the BIOS setup utility to see if there's a way to give the graphics chipset a bigger chunk of the shared RAM.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 06 Jun 2009, 21:06
I actually didn't go through the whole FPS config, but just those command lines combined with closing explorer did wonders. Never had a single moment of lag. Your help is very much appreciated, and I owe you a token of some sort, to be repayed at convenience.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: snalin on 07 Jun 2009, 12:06
Another alternative that allows you to play with better graphics is:

go to start->run->msconfig

click "selective startup"

Untag System.ini and win.ini

Go to the services tab, select "hide all microsoft services", and "deactivate all"

Restart, and play. It works really good, just remember to go back to "normal startup" before you start browsing the internets or downloading, since this method kills all virus protection.
Title: Re: Wave goodbye to yer head, wanker
Post by: MrBridge on 08 Jun 2009, 09:43
I'm not sure there was ever a time I found your mom jokes funny. Not a judgement, just sayin'. It kinda sucks, actually, since that means a good 60% of voicechat communication is completely lost on me.

It must suck to be so above it all ;)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 08 Jun 2009, 22:47
I heard he's into your dad jokes instead.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 08 Jun 2009, 22:48
Your dad is so fat, when he gets cut he bleeds milkshakes.



Right, Alex C?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 24 Jun 2009, 10:06
Well, the ambassador got nerfed, the cloak and dagger got (unintentionally) nerfed, and the dead ringer got buffed

I broke my record for spy backstabs now that I'm forced to use the knife to get most of my kills.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 24 Jun 2009, 13:14
Oh man, I can't wait until I can play again. The Dead Ringer is the best, hands down.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 29 Jun 2009, 11:05
Proof that the Dead Ringer is the best (http://www.ubercharged.net/2009/06/07/dead-ringer-kill-taunt-omgwtfinvisistab/)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Yayniall on 29 Jun 2009, 16:17
That's been fixed.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 29 Jun 2009, 16:21
I just did it today. Liar.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Trollstormur on 03 Jul 2009, 22:51
hoodoo and pipeline are just freaking terrible.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: bicostp on 08 Jul 2009, 13:34
The 3rd stage of Pipeline is fun as Engineer. What you do is run to the other side of the map and set up camp in that little square alcove next to the water. (There's even a convenient large ammo crate nearby.) A sentry there will hit the other team's ramp almost from start to finish. And if you build it back a little, there isn't really anything they can do about it, except for sending spies and demos in after you.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 19 Jul 2009, 11:10
(http://images.ukcs.net/13983/soldier_update.png)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Ozymandias on 19 Jul 2009, 11:12
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 19 Jul 2009, 11:18
A nice fake though
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: SirJuggles on 19 Jul 2009, 12:48
Hate you. Hate you so much right now.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Melodic on 19 Jul 2009, 14:10
Heh. Grenade launcher.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 20 Jul 2009, 16:58
Thought this should be posted here (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92907-Does-New-Korean-Game-Rip-Off-Team-Fortress-2)
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Jul 2009, 17:26
Guys, I got the Fedora but I don't like (am very bad at) playing spy.
What do I do?
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: JD on 20 Jul 2009, 20:36
Give the hat to me.
Title: Re: Gentlemen
Post by: Yayniall on 20 Jul 2009, 20:46
If they ever bother to include trading I'll try and get a Solly Stash for it. Now that's a cool hat.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 27 Jul 2009, 09:19
Oh guys, the soldier might be next (http://kotaku.com/5316303/is-team-fortress-2s-soldier-trying-to-tell-us-something)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 11 Aug 2009, 16:50
Click this link (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/)

and this (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/hats/)

Perhaps this one too (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/advertisement/)

Omg another one (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/barbary/)

Is your clicker finger sore? (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/enigmatical/)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Darke on 11 Aug 2009, 17:22
What kind of TF2 player gets a sore finger after five clicks? :P

I seriously need to play this game more often. I forget how much fun it is.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 11 Aug 2009, 17:44
I've been playing this a lot more often recently. Mostly playing the scout and the soldier, do we have a steam group?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 11 Aug 2009, 17:48
I could add you I think. What's your username?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 11 Aug 2009, 17:53
FluffyHitman.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 11 Aug 2009, 17:56
Odd, it wouldn't work. Ackbloom12 or clockworkjames could probably do it, they're admins in the group.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 11 Aug 2009, 18:21
Try nodaisho, then. It should be one or the other, I probably gave you the wrong one.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Aug 2009, 19:20
Hmm, just tried to invite you and it's not actually allowing me to. You are definitely listed under FluffyHitman though.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 11 Aug 2009, 20:18
It worked, I got the invites. I'm in the group now.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 11 Aug 2009, 20:57
I suppose the floor is open to anyone else who wants to join.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: SirJuggles on 11 Aug 2009, 21:15
Ooh, I submit that SirJuggles could be added? I haven't been on so much since my home wireless is terrible, but that will change as soon as I'm back at school.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 11 Aug 2009, 21:16
I invited you.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: SirJuggles on 11 Aug 2009, 21:18
Wow you guys are on it.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 12 Aug 2009, 09:23
list of the hats inc:

 "TF_Engineer_Cowboy_Hat" "Texas Ten Gallon"
"TF_Engineer_Train_Hat" "Engineer's Cap"
"TF_Heavy_Ushanka_Hat" "Officer's Ushanka"
"TF_Heavy_Stocking_cap" "Tough Guy's Tuque"
"TF_Soldier_Pot_Hat" "Stainless Pot"
"TF_Soldier_Viking_Hat" "Tyrant's Helm"
"TF_Demo_Scott_Hat" "Glengarry Bonnet"
"TF_Medic_Tyrolean_Hat" "Vintage Tyrolean"
"TF_Pyro_Chicken_Hat" "Respectless Rubber Glove"
"TF_Spy_Camera_Beard" "Camera Beard"
"TF_Medic_Mirror_Hat" "Otolaryngologist's Mirror"
"TF_Pyro_Fireman_Helmet" "Brigade Helm"
"TF_Scout_Bonk_Helmet" "Bonk Helm"
"TF_Scout_Newsboy_Cap" "Ye Olde Baker Boy"
"TF_Spy_Derby_Hat" "Backbiter's Billycock"
"TF_Sniper_Straw_Hat" "Professional's Panama"
"TF_Sniper_Jarate_Headband" "Master's Yellow Belt"
"TF_Hatless_Scout" "Baseball Bill's Sports Shine"
"TF_Hatless_Sniper" "Ritzy Rick's Hair Fixative"
"TF_Hatless_Engineer" "Texas Slim's Dome Shine"
"TF_Demo_Top_Hat" "Scottsman's Stove Pipe"


CAMERA BEARD
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 12 Aug 2009, 10:43
I was hoping for one of these for the heavy.
(http://www.littlelids.com/bg_nora.jpg)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Headwoünd on 12 Aug 2009, 13:40
God dammit.. I don't even have the Pickelhaube yet and they already have a fudgin Tyrolean hat in the works...

That's low, Valve.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 12 Aug 2009, 16:25
There is a mod that allows you to wear hats. A group I'm on has it on one of their servers.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 13 Aug 2009, 16:35
Oh jeez, this was a quick update.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 13 Aug 2009, 17:13
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8421/hats2.jpg)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 13 Aug 2009, 17:40
Is that a Jayne Hat?

I'm kind of liking these, but I know it means less actually useful rewards.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 13 Aug 2009, 19:03
http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/today_is_a_good_day/ (http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/hidden/today_is_a_good_day/)

Medals and shit.
=0
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 13 Aug 2009, 20:17
Fyi, this may ruin some of your skins.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 13 Aug 2009, 21:58
Friend me on steam. Trollherra
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 13 Aug 2009, 22:06
No group or player records were found matching your search terms.

 :?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 16 Aug 2009, 08:06
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198008888189

there's my community page.


I got my first hat yesterday, the bowler. (backbiter's billycock)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 16 Aug 2009, 11:18
Jealousssss
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 16 Aug 2009, 11:19
Well, that was a wholy unexciting update. :(
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Headwoünd on 16 Aug 2009, 12:10
Come on, you have to admit KotH is pretty awesome. Better than Payload Race anyways.

I consider it the best mode after CP push&hold. KotH is basically like the fight for the first CP on a push&hold map, only all the time with two somewhat equal teams.
I hope it takes lots of playtime away from PL, PLR and CTF 2Fort on my favourite servers.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 16 Aug 2009, 20:32
http://www.forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=8909


Here's a tf2 map to practice in. it's pretty sophisticated.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 19 Aug 2009, 18:20
I got the Engineer's Cap.

(http://users.telenet.be/dz4/yess.gif)

I still want the beard though
(http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/4/41/Spybeard.png)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 21 Aug 2009, 13:19
I want the Engineer's bald.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 21 Aug 2009, 21:29
I want a Dr. Steel skin for the Engy.

(http://www.youthink.com/images/20080118/youthinkdotcom_3183069_2855.jpg)


Or a freakin' Steampunk skinpack :O
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 21 Aug 2009, 21:45
I haven't gotten any hats. Ever. :cry: Want the pyro beanie and the 2 new soldier hats. Instead I keep getting flare guns and backburners. :x
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 29 Aug 2009, 11:41
The best scout skin ever (http://mechaware.net/tf2/travis/day1.html)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 30 Aug 2009, 23:09
HEY KIDS! Jealous of your friends who got the hatless Engie hat? Well now you can have it too with the all-new HATLESS ENGIE GLITCH!

Here's how it works: Spawn as Demoman and do the "Kabooom" taunt. In the middle of the taunt quickly switch to Engineer. And now you too can be a bald hatless Engineer like all the cool kids!
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 30 Aug 2009, 23:12
Is it really worth the effort?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: SirJuggles on 31 Aug 2009, 00:05
Is it really worth the effort?

FREE HATLESS ENGIE HAT
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 31 Aug 2009, 00:07
Well I already got an engie hat, as previously stated, sooo...
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 31 Aug 2009, 11:26
But for those of us who haven't been blessed by the random drop algorithm...

Besides it's not that tough to do:

, 4 G , 6

Even easier than the old Civilian Heavy glitch.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 02 Sep 2009, 17:20
Fantastic news (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787)

Apparently this new hat will be a Halo
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 03 Sep 2009, 05:54
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
The glow from the Cheater's Lament does not cloak!*

Spy at your own risk.
*Unless, of course, they've fixed it by now.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 03 Sep 2009, 08:20
I've been idling all day and still no halo.
FFS Valve.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 03 Sep 2009, 11:50
Uh...I think the point of the halo is NOT to idle, isn't it?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Headwoünd on 04 Sep 2009, 14:38
Well duh.

Stewpit halo, no one wants that one. :<
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 04 Sep 2009, 15:56
Why is the halo a scarlet letter, anyway?

There wouldn't be nearly this much butthurt if Valve gave all the people who used the idler tool a "pair of devil horns" hat.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 08 Sep 2009, 16:54
People always find a reason to RAGE. The legits would get pissed and butthurt that Valve is "rewarding the cheaters" with a free hat.

I just wish they'd get on with the unlockables for the engie.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 08 Sep 2009, 16:57
There is actually a skin that turns the halo into a pair of horns now.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 09 Sep 2009, 17:27
Then there's the mod that makes the halo a big glowing FAG hat.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 22 Sep 2009, 17:14
http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/app_pending_02.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/app_pending_02.jpg)
hmmmm

http://guarddog.50webs.com/ (http://guarddog.50webs.com/)
hmmmm
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Melodic on 22 Sep 2009, 19:11
Second link is bogus, but I'm still looking forward to the next update.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 22 Sep 2009, 19:51
Or is it? (http://www.teamfortress.com/1308.htm)
Click the image
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 22 Sep 2009, 20:20
It's bogus, the TF2 guys just really like the idea.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 22 Sep 2009, 20:24
aw
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Melodic on 22 Sep 2009, 22:43
Easiest way to tell is the writing style.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Melodic on 22 Sep 2009, 22:45
and the pixels.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 23 Sep 2009, 07:27
And the fact that it's not hosted on Valve's webserver. :\
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 29 Oct 2009, 18:43
huh (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/gibus/)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Blue Kitty on 29 Oct 2009, 18:57
Don't forget about all the Halloween fun (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: bicostp on 29 Oct 2009, 19:08
THRILLER TAUNT.

(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3943/tf2a.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOY2k2Gybc8

That is all.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 29 Oct 2009, 19:09
http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/the_last_will_and_testament_of_Zepheniah_Mann/ (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/the_last_will_and_testament_of_Zepheniah_Mann/)

http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/family_portrait/ (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/family_portrait/)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 29 Oct 2009, 19:49
Holy shit this game has an insane backstory now.

What does the covered portion say arrrrgh let me read it.

The picture accounts for everyone in the letter(as well as the origins of Red, Blu, Saxton Hale, and the announcer) but there's a dog. Are they hinting at the guard dog becoming a real thing?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 30 Oct 2009, 23:15
There's also that guy hanging off the edge of the picture. I really doubt the dog is anything, or at least that there would ever be a bloody guard dog in game.

I hope these paper bag hats go away, they really don't fit with the rest of the theme. At the very least I hope my -crits -dmgspread 5cp servers pick up a -hats tag.

-ed also the blog is at times hilarious: http://www.teamfortress.com/
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 09 Dec 2009, 15:51
Puzzling... (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3219)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 09 Dec 2009, 15:52
Gravel Pits of America!
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 09 Dec 2009, 16:41
Okay, I have a serious question.

Can you play TF2 on PC with a 360 controller? If so, I might finally cave in and buy it. I mean, I've got it for 360 but that shit is utterly pathetic so I don't even bother anymore, and I hatehatehate keyboard+mouse controls for shooters; I just can't do it.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 09 Dec 2009, 16:50
Eugh.
I'm not sure if you can, never bothered to try it but I think if you did the tracking'd be all wrong.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: LTK on 09 Dec 2009, 16:59
The store page on Steam lists Controller Enabled, so that's a Yes. Although there's a good chance you get outmaneuvered by the rest of the PC players that do have mouse/keyboard skills.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 09 Dec 2009, 19:02
Yeah, it'll probably work but you'll probably get your ass handed to you. I've seen some videos of clan games on the 360 and the individual skill of the players is only a shade higher than that of pubby randoms. I can't believe you don't like keyboard and mouse controls though. It's like someone is trying to explain why the colour red is his favourite food to me in spanish.

Also I'm terrified of this update. Please please please don't ruin the soldier. He's perfect as it is. He's more than decent at everything and if theres an improvement in any area it'll probably be too much.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 09 Dec 2009, 19:18
I think keyboard and mouse is mostly something you have to get used to, it is a lot harder at first. Mostly psychological, you just have to get to the point where you are no longer moving the mouse to move the cursor to be over the enemy. Instead you need to be pointing at the enemy. Same idea, but one is a lot more natural, compare pointing at some point on the wall with focusing on the steps of moving the muscles to get the arm to point at it. Takes longer and you aren't going to be as accurate.

If you do use the 360 controller, expect to get pretty thrashed.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 09 Dec 2009, 20:03
Puzzling... (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3219)

OMG I LOVE VAAAAAALVEEEEEEEEEEE

I love all the insane backstory they are putting to every little thing in this game now why do they rock so much?

And the best part is how much of it is fan-inspired. The Administrator is based on fanart, Valve has never released an official image of her until now.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 09 Dec 2009, 20:17
New announcer soundssss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9uvQ_k8gqs)

Also, no new game mode (http://kotaku.com/5421960/valve-team-fortress-2-mystery-update-not-a-new-game-mode)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 10 Dec 2009, 10:25
It's like someone is trying to explain why the colour red is his favourite food to me in spanish.

thank you for this analogy, it gave me quite the chuckle.

And, as I've said before, it's not that hate keyboard-mouse completely...just for shooters. The reason is pretty simple: I have shaky hands and trying to shoot shit with a mouse just doesn't really work. I can use controllers fine though since both of my hands are clasped tightly onto the same object and only my thumbs are moving around, for the most part.

So yeah, I might get my ass kicked but I would get my ass kicked twenty times worse if I was using a mouse and keyboard. This, I am certain of.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: LTK on 10 Dec 2009, 11:02
You could try lowering the mouse sensitivity?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 10 Dec 2009, 11:22
but with a gamepad, I can crank the sensitivity all the way up and be just about as fast as a mouse and I'm, you know, actually capable of aiming with it.

seems to me that lowering the sensitivity on a mouse would be way worse of a gimp than using a controller with sensitivity turned up.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 10 Dec 2009, 17:26
If you've got enough space to move your mouse around (and mouse with your whole arm rather than just your wrist) lower sensitivity really helps you aim precisely. I use a sensitivity which gives me 7" to turn 180 degrees, though I've only got about 12" of space to play with. My ability to put rockets and bullets where I want them got hugely greater after migrating to that from something like 4"/180. Other things like turning off mouse acceleration helps with your consistency a lot too. Mostly it's about not being afraid to throw your mouse around and finding a neat balance between twitching and precision (in the past I've used keybinds that toggle between something like 5"/180 and 12"/180 so that I can have the sensitivity I want when I want it; the settings are there to be changed). I used to shake quite a bit in some games but that goes away as you get confident. I don't know how you'd rocket jump though, I guess you could use scripts for that.

That's not to say you shouldn't use a gamepad if you're more comfortable with that though. I'm really not trying to make you change.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 10 Dec 2009, 17:31
oh, yeah absolutely. If I get it I'll definitely experiment with the mouse and keyboard and see if I can't can't find an optimal setting for me, and maybe get a little more practiced with it.

but i have nightmares (actual nightmares) about playing STALKER and Crysis and fuck who knows how many other games ON EASY where I just couldn't even hang in a firefight against more than one or two dudes. Online against other people would only be worse and I don't think I'm commited enough to put in the time to even become "okay" at it.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 10 Dec 2009, 18:47
Oh yeah and if you start playing within the next week know that there aren't normally that many explosions going off everywhere. Soldier/Demoman update means many, many more soldiers and demos all exploding things all around you.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3225

Know, though, that the glorious soldiering master race will win out.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 10 Dec 2009, 18:53
Fuck

I like playing both.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 10 Dec 2009, 19:55
DEMOMAN > *
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 10 Dec 2009, 20:22
Goddamn so many kritzkreigs
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 10 Dec 2009, 20:34
Demo will probably win out. They're much better at the maps like dustbowl and badwater and gold rush which is 90% of what non-2fort servers run. Those maps are tedious enough without all the extra spam.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 10 Dec 2009, 20:39
But the soldier is a more approachable class and ultimately I think more people play him.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 10 Dec 2009, 20:44
Guess we'll see tomorrow who pulls ahead.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Dec 2009, 21:05
Calling it now, the bonus weapon will be a completely useless gag weapon.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 10 Dec 2009, 21:06
Such as?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Dec 2009, 22:40
Dunno, but they are hyping up the weapon, not saying what it is, giving more weapons to one class than any other (which you know would get a lot of unnecessary complaining), and it would be hilarious getting everybody playing their preferred class out of the two to get, say, a water gun shaped like a rocket launcher.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 10 Dec 2009, 23:46
On the other hand maybe they had three unlocks they really liked and couldn't decide which one to drop.

Demos are gonna win this so hard though :(. Every time it's been soldiers vs demos it's been demos camping soldiers back into their spawn. Area denial is much, much more useful than straight up combat ability. 5cp maps are playing much better than those awful goldbowl maps but finding a server running them is tough.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 11 Dec 2009, 02:37
Solider is the only class I'm totally useless at, even worse that I'm at sniper, and that's quite bad. I just loathe the slow running speed, and I'm never able to figure out rocket jumping, and hitting stuff that's moving...

Demoman, on the other hand, is really, really fun. People have a tendency to never look out for sticky fields, ever.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 11 Dec 2009, 03:30
The weapon will be the swordfish
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Yayniall on 12 Dec 2009, 10:12
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/blind_pilot/usekritzmakegibs.jpg)

My entry for the propaganda contest.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 12 Dec 2009, 10:13
On the other hand maybe they had three unlocks they really liked and couldn't decide which one to drop.

Demos are gonna win this so hard though :(. Every time it's been soldiers vs demos it's been demos camping soldiers back into their spawn. Area denial is much, much more useful than straight up combat ability. 5cp maps are playing much better than those awful goldbowl maps but finding a server running them is tough.

24/7 fast respawn meatgrinders are gonna win this war.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 12 Dec 2009, 20:54
Soldiers are leading by 200,000.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 12 Dec 2009, 22:55
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/sademie/imnosardonik.png)

I'm making those bloody yank bastards pay for every last inch of that 4th weapon.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 13 Dec 2009, 07:55
http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 13 Dec 2009, 09:09
Soldiers are leading by 200,000.

Soldier's gonna win this one because the class is so easy to play. Just space bar and shoot at the ground over and over and over again.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 13 Dec 2009, 15:06
Crafting!

Hints as to the new weapons (pickaxe! sword! bugle! EXPLOSIVES(clearly)!)

Killing fucking Fred Astaire that son of a bitch!

Awesome.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: beat mouse on 13 Dec 2009, 15:21
Or it will further weed out bad snipers. Always an FPS must.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 13 Dec 2009, 16:05
Soldiers are leading by 200,000.

Soldier's gonna win this one because the class is so easy to play. Just space bar and shoot at the ground over and over and over again.
As opposed to the class that just requires you to lay landmines and wait for someone to come around the corner? With as much as people get thrown around by rockets, you really have to aim if they aren't coming straight at you through a hallway. I actually was really sucking when I went back on day before yesterday, had to switch to scout because I just wasn't able to juggle anybody after my time not playing, and the mouse sensitivity just wasn't quite right.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 13 Dec 2009, 17:49
Yeah both classes are pretty easy to be a little ok at in the right circumstances but I think they take the about the same amount of skill in general overall.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 14 Dec 2009, 11:56
I've been playing solider the last days because, damn, I'm not able to make a positive contribution on the demoman side, so why not just play this one and make a negative one here?

Turns out solider is a lot of fun. Can't figure out the rocket jumping, though (I just go straight up, I want to go bloody forward at an angle more than 45 degrees), but the effectiveness at middle distance makes it quite fun. I think I'll be happy with both sides winning.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 14 Dec 2009, 15:59
On rocket jumping:

There are tons of different ways to jump and most of them have uses. Running forward and shooting down is pretty crappy but it's good for getting on top of relatively low things if you've got time without taking fall damage. Adding in crouch jumping and jump crouching gets you other heights and amounts of control. To get more distance you want to put rockets behind you rather than under you. So you've got to strafe and twitch and airstrafe to get it all to work together.

As you get better you'll want to use walls rather than the floor. You take less selfdamage and you get more momentum. When you're running past a corner jump crouch or crouch jump flick behind you and shoot the wall. You can do it even better with walls running parallel to you and then airstrafing around and that's the ideal jump for distance.

Watch videos on youtube and then practice, practice, practice. Try to make jumps you're not sure you can make because if you don't you'll never get them. Yes, you'll fuck up and land in the middle of them more often than not to start with but once you start getting it right the soldier really starts to shine.

The soldiers major strength isn't his effectiveness in the middle distance but his ability to get into the middle distance.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 14 Dec 2009, 22:05
http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1

Demo primary and melee weapons announced. Colour me wildly fucking sceptical.

(http://imgur.com/QQ3ND.gif)(http://imgur.com/QQ3ND.gif)(http://imgur.com/QQ3ND.gif)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 14 Dec 2009, 22:13
I don't think too many people are going to be lining up to get rid of their sticky bomb launcher.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 14 Dec 2009, 22:14
I broke out laughing the second I saw it.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 14 Dec 2009, 23:20
Hole

E

Shit

That is rad as fuck

Screw you guys

I'm going to be a screaming crazy cyclopean black Scotsman that charges across 2fort into people shooting guns while I do nothing but madly hack and slash with a sword. FUCK BOMBS.

Demoman comic has a little tease of what his third item is (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/05.htm)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 14 Dec 2009, 23:33
But how will the demomanz destroy the sentrees.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 14 Dec 2009, 23:44
With his grenade launcher?

Alternately: charging across the map at superspeed, taking 65% less damage from explosives, and hitting with a critical on the sentry from your sword. Like a real man.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 14 Dec 2009, 23:53
Sentries don't take extra damage from crits and hopefully the knockback from the sentry will fling a demo around as much as it does a bonked scout. But yeah, pipes and the rest of the team will still work just as well.

Giving up stickies is a huge price to pay and I don't see this getting much play outside of desperate final cap defenses and dicking around in pubs, though taking 65% less damage from regular demos and sollies could make them a useful utility on some maps if the one demo rule gets relaxed to a one sticky launcher rule.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 14 Dec 2009, 23:54
It might make him more offensive.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 14 Dec 2009, 23:57
He's already one of the best offensive classes in the game.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 15 Dec 2009, 00:12
Well uh, maybe even more so? Like stupid cocky offense?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Dec 2009, 00:31
Zombie, since when do crits not work on sentries? I haven't played much in a while, but I distinctly remember killing sentries with the benefit of a crit rocket as a soldier. Level 2s and 3s, with engineers healing them.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 15 Dec 2009, 01:07
I don't think they ever have. You probably killed the engie and the sentry in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 15 Dec 2009, 01:45
Yeah crit rockets help against sentries because it kills the engy (engies repair sentries incredibly fast, two hits to full health). You don't actually do any more damage to the sentry though.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Dec 2009, 04:28
But normal rockets take four to kill a level 3 unattended, and it only took 2, maybe 3 when that happened. Huh. That is odd, maybe it's the damage spread being low when I finally managed to kill one that was by itself by myself, and high when I hit with the crits.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 15 Dec 2009, 04:41
I won't care if this makes him better or worse; it makes him funner.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 15 Dec 2009, 04:54
Oh, it's probably because crits don't suffer damage falloff.

Your normal rocket does a bit over 100 damage at very close range, but that drops down to less than 50 at very long range. Crits don't have this so you'll drop a sentry in two rockets (sentries have up to 216 hp) from any range if you're kritzed.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Dec 2009, 15:21
Ah, okay. See, when I played TF2 constantly was before I realized how useful paying attention to the damage sheets people made could be. All I knew was that 2 rockets killed the 125 health classes, 2 good scout shotgun blasts took out the 125 health classes, and 6 scout shotgun blasts would take out a heavy, if he doesn't turn and shred me first.

Am I the only one that doesn't understand why a rocket does less damage at long range?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 15 Dec 2009, 15:42
Balance. And that everything (bar the sniper rifle, huntsman, stickies and the flaregun) do less damage at range. It's to encourage people to come up into closer range where fights are more exciting and busy (and fun).
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 15 Dec 2009, 16:45
I bet you they'll release the Meet The Pyro video.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 15 Dec 2009, 19:56
awesome (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part5/)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 Dec 2009, 20:10
wait, i thought his parents were dead
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Dec 2009, 20:48
So a smaller blast radius, but still the same damage within the radius, right? So you can still do good damage aiming at their feet? I might like that, especially since it goes 80% faster and does more damage. Having rockets go at different speeds is going to make a pyro's life annoying for a while.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 15 Dec 2009, 21:24
I'd imagine they'll look different. They'll go about ball speed, except in a straight line. Awesome. I hope the demo's new charge lifts them gently off the ground...
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 15 Dec 2009, 23:28
80% faster... does that mean you can hit a sentry faster than the engineer can fix them?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 15 Dec 2009, 23:43
Referring to rocket velocity afaik. However more damage on a direct hit so if you time your shot with another soldier you might be able to alpha strike the thing from mid-short range like you do with two snipers at long (except you don't have to charge your shots).
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 16 Dec 2009, 19:41
no discussion on the cheese launcher? Yeah let's give demos some gimicky bullshit and give soldiers a fast moving high damage rocket launcher that gets really really better as you do.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 16 Dec 2009, 20:07
Nope because I love love love love love it. The rockets might be a bit fast to stay unnerfed for very long though. Mini-crits in the air is a such a cool little detail to add (though if you can juggle it pretty much guarantees you a kill). It gives me hope that the shovel will crit from above.

I agree that the demo's gear looks pretty terrible.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 16 Dec 2009, 22:22
Good soldiers were a bitch before, but now they're terrifying
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 16 Dec 2009, 22:24
The update will be live in an hour(or less). I love living on the west coast.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 16 Dec 2009, 23:33
Fuck yes, that sticky launcher looks awesome.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 16 Dec 2009, 23:39
Demo is in the lead by a little bit too.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 16 Dec 2009, 23:55
A straight up buff to sticky camping. Gee thanks Valve.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 01:23
It demands the stickies be within view though.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 17 Dec 2009, 03:19
I really don't think that's that big an issue. Maybe I just suck at demo but any time I kill people with stickies I can see both the target and the stickies. I think the ability to set off just some of them greatly makes up for having to be able to look at them.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Ozymandias on 17 Dec 2009, 10:31
There's pretty much a complete symmetry between the demo and soldier updates. Both got a more professional, skill-based version of their main function, both got a secondary alternate that provides a buff, both got a scaling melee that rewards the brave.

Very well done update.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 17 Dec 2009, 17:35
Update's out, sollys win by a tiny margin. They score boots that save them some selfdamage when jumping. Not too useful (not worth the loss of the shotgun) but good for dicking around I'm sure.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 17:43
The Sandman is still being fiddled with, hilarious.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 17 Dec 2009, 18:14
Good. That things is not even the slightest bit enjoyable.

Huge spy buff though. Camera beard and a hat. Terrifying.

New A/D map looks like so much fun.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 18:16
I have had fun with it once or twice.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Trollstormur on 17 Dec 2009, 19:12
Update's out, sollys win by a tiny margin. They score boots that save them some selfdamage when jumping. Not too useful (not worth the loss of the shotgun) but good for dicking around I'm sure.


no it means you can run right up to someone and hit them with that insane new rocket launcher and take like 0 damage.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 17 Dec 2009, 19:42
Have you tried it, or are you just imagining the worst? You usually take only half the damage you would be taking from hitting yourself with a rocket during a rocket jump, it doesn't eliminate damage completely, so you are still doing a good bit of damage to yourself if you try to go close-quarters rocketing. And you lose your shotgun, four rockets go really quickly, if you aren't hitting and running you are going to need your shotgun, those boots aren't worth it. The pickaxe, maybe, the new rocket launcher, as long as you have good aim, the flag, doubtful, maybe a few situations, but the boots? I wouldn't use them unless I was playing on some gimmick map that needs lots of rocket jumps.

I'm more worried about the demoman's new grenade launcher, that one seems to have no real downside. Seriously, the only weakness of a demoman's defense, aside from the possibility of the pyro compressed air thing or a spy, was that he only has one set, he blows those and he is out until he sets up more. The new launcher means he can't set grenades at a CP and then go to a different one, so what? Anyone that isn't a scout taking the last flag is going to make sure to scatter the grenades before they move on the CP, so it doesn't really matter. He can set 16 grenades now. One sticky grenade with a bit of luck kills a full health scout, spy, sniper, or engineer, two will kill anything without a health boost except for the heavy, those grenades are extremely powerful. And now he can set up a corridor of death with 4, 6, or 8 groups of them. That part won't require you to be a skilled demoman, just a patient camper.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 17 Dec 2009, 20:38
And you can blow up your stickies through walls. Also you can leave a sticky at friendly sentry farms and blow up enemy stickies just before they kill the sentries. I'm finding it easier to fight close quarters with provided I'm retreating or already have stickies strewn about. You've just gotta aim at the stickies under their feet. It's a terrible weapon.

The self damage from shooting people at 0 range with the rocket launcher was seriously never a problem and the shotgun is way too useful to give up. [edit] if you're touching the ground the boots have no effect. If you're not they soak up one hell of a lot of it, though you still take fall damage.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Darke on 17 Dec 2009, 20:57
I'm not sure how useful it is overall, but the Eyelander/Chargin' Targe combo is just plain fun.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 21:54
New sticky launcher is terrible for demo jumping
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 21:55
for more than one reason actually
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 17 Dec 2009, 22:28
Also I'm pretty sure I just played a game with Scotty (http://vgcats.com/), weird.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: BlahBlah on 18 Dec 2009, 07:29
What's with the spy dispenser building glitch?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 18 Dec 2009, 08:22
Great, so now the Soldier and Demoman are up to 2 updates apiece to the Engineer's zero (the level 3 everything doesn't count IMO).
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 18 Dec 2009, 10:28
I'd really like to see different sentries, and maybe some kind of easy to build jump-pads to move your entire team vertically. Or traps. Allow them to make mechanical traps. Or to build several upgradeable level 1 sentries-

Or let them pick up other player's equipment and use it to power up their sentries.



They're probably going to make a new shotgun for him. One that makes repairs cheaper and ugrades more expensive or the other way around. or something else boring. I want more stuff like the new demoman melee pack or the huntsman or other upgrades that radically changes the way you play a class.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 18 Dec 2009, 16:20
When did the solly and demo get an update before?

The spy/dispenser glitch happens because both dispensers and sappers are "build 0" buildings. It works because the game thinks you're building a sapper.

I actually like the new sticky launcher. It's great when you're retreating or on defense. The difficulties in sticky jumping are fine because the heavily defensively slanted weapon is slower to attack with. I also can't wait to see some of the cool trickjumps it'll let you do.

I really question the balance of demos getting up to having the second biggest amount of hp, the second fastest speed, explosive and fire resistances and a free gtfo out button every ten seconds. You can't avoid melee with them and you have no chance to get out of it once you're there and unless you're a kgb heavy they're probably better at it than you are.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 19 Dec 2009, 01:59
I thought medics were the second fastest?

It isn't bad for me, since I always either play soldier (running straight at me? Thanks for making it easy to juggle you) or scout (think of the demoman with the targe as the bull, and the scout the matador), but it will be interesting to see how the balance plays out. I wonder how the pyro will do as well, it probably depends on the demo's health (thinking about the eyelander), whether they can dodge the charge and whether they can compressed air blast the demo to stop the charge (that would be pretty cool), 50% less damage won't stop a good pyro from doing damage really quick, and even if the demo survives, he's going to be needing a medic or a medpack to avoid dying shortly afterward.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 19 Dec 2009, 02:01
I really question the balance of demos getting up to having the second biggest amount of hp, the second fastest speed, explosive and fire resistances and a free gtfo out button every ten seconds. You can't avoid melee with them and you have no chance to get out of it once you're there and unless you're a kgb heavy they're probably better at it than you are.

I've killed them with my shovel dozens of times.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Nodaisho on 19 Dec 2009, 02:28
They might get a stun and a mini-crit, though. I expect it will be pretty easy to hit someone with a short-range charge, just tougher to hit with the long range charge, since they see you coming and have an easier time dodging behind something you can't avoid (if you can even aim you charge after starting it).

Of course, if you have your pickaxe, you get more and more dangerous the more they hit you. Anyone get that yet to see if there is any change in damage or firing rate, something to make it possibly worse than the shovel?
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 19 Dec 2009, 23:19
The second fastest class is a buffed eyelander demo or a very hurt soldier. And as a medic I can't do a thing about the demo.

I believe the pick does less damage to start with and know you can't get healed or ubered when you have it out. It's excellent for playing long, but if you're pocket I think the shovel is preferable.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: snalin on 20 Dec 2009, 08:52
A sword-wielding demo is piece of cake as a scout. Really, when they don't have the stickies, downing them anywhere with a bit of open space around you just became way to easy if you are a fast bugger with a shotgun. But I still want to know if the air-blast, FAN and turrets can push charging demomen back, since a demoman able to charge without getting pushed by a sentry is a perfect target for invunerability. Run up there and pump out nades faster than the engineer can heal? Oh yeah. But then again, it's a question about if the medic can keep a close enough distance for the demoman not to loose the invun, and inevitable his life.

there's a bit too many demos and soldiers on the servers now, though. I'm just hoping to pick up their stuff as scout or heavy, since I mostly play them, since I seem to pick up more backburners than anything else, even if I never play pyro.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Alex C on 20 Dec 2009, 09:51
Yeah, the pyro is kind of the black sheep of the TF2 world, it seems. I like playing them though, if only because people tend to ignore them a bit as the soldier spams rockets everywhere. On more than a few occasions I've ended up broiling everyone and it usually leads to comments like "Seriously, was anyone shooting that pyro?"
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 23 Dec 2009, 15:15
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/sparkwire/level3differentangle.jpg)

This looks like a cool skin.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Darke on 23 Dec 2009, 15:18
My new biggest hate: soldiers using the equalizer and calling for a medic. Repeatedly.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 23 Dec 2009, 17:43
bind h "say_team "I can't heal you if you've got the equaliser out""

-edit; for extra credit put that in your medic.cfg and put other binds for h in the other classes ones. Something long the lines of "voicemenu 1 4".
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Darke on 23 Dec 2009, 17:57
they don't listen
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: JD on 25 Dec 2009, 02:21
wtf (http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/79986)
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: McTaggart on 25 Dec 2009, 04:07
I will never understand what drives people to do things like that.
Title: Re: Mentlegen
Post by: Reed on 25 Dec 2009, 07:19
Meth.
Title: Re: Dammit dammit dammit dammit!
Post by: JD on 02 Mar 2010, 21:53
Engineer update is officially on! 
Title: Re: Dammit dammit dammit dammit!
Post by: SirJuggles on 03 Mar 2010, 02:29
when I first saw your post I half didn't believe it.

I'm really kinda curious as to how they handle this one. I've been thinking for a while that an engi update might be the most difficult to balance, and have wondered if they would bother with one at all. The opening post they put up agrees with that, so I'm really interested to see where they go with it.
Title: Re: Dammit dammit dammit dammit!
Post by: JD on 05 May 2010, 18:24
What are you building engineer tell us (http://www.teamfortress.com/119/comingsoon.html)
Title: Re: Dammit dammit dammit dammit!
Post by: Stryc9Fuego on 06 May 2010, 01:09
I've been thinking for a while that an engi update might be the most difficult to balance, and have wondered if they would bother with one at all.
Don't worry, they haven't really bothered with balance for a while now.

[trollface.jpg]
Title: Re: Dammit dammit dammit dammit!
Post by: JD on 06 May 2010, 08:07
I dig the Pyro buff they did a while back though.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: McTaggart on 07 May 2010, 00:38
Didn't they just nerf it into the ground like last week?
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Yayniall on 07 May 2010, 04:00
Minus fire damage ain't all bad, you can just stick with the old, fire-blast-axe combo.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 07 May 2010, 11:07
Didn't they just nerf it into the ground like last week?

yes but now reflects mincrit.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: bicostp on 08 May 2010, 08:45
And now the Homewrecker (Pyro's useless sledgehammer) can remove sappers from friendly buildings with one swing.

Valve is trying to make the Pyro into an Engineer Buddy. :\ I want to kill stuff with fire! If I wanted to babysit a sentry nest I'd just play Engineer!
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: KvP on 26 Jun 2010, 18:56
CATPOCALYPSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1Ay85de3U&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Blue Kitty on 29 Jun 2010, 12:28
Being awesome is easy (http://kotaku.com/5575049/if-only-these-team-fortress-2-weapons-were-real)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Yayniall on 29 Jun 2010, 19:25
Entire team is baby baby baby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmIzxO0-n4&feature=related)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Jul 2010, 10:26
Brand new comic! (http://www.teamfortress.com/loosecanon/index.html)

The more they post TF2 comics, the more brilliant the TF2 world becomes. This comic is no exception at all.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Alex C on 02 Jul 2010, 10:44
I feel kinda guilty for enjoying their depiction of Australian culture so much.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Jul 2010, 10:53
Just consider it a reverse of the real Australia: all Australians here are intelligent, pleasant, civilized people, but Australia is a place where technology is shunned and distrusted by the government forcing the people into a Luddite nightmare.

(Or it's just ****ing hilarious. Also of note: look on the last page. Radigan Conagher built three immortality machines but the last name is obscured. What's going on?)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 Jul 2010, 11:10
Maybe it's the announcer?  I especially like the depictions of the civil war era teams, especially that the Pyros look like Abraham Lincoln
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Jul 2010, 12:21
I'm 99% certain that in the TF2 universe, Civil War Pyro was Abraham Lincoln.

Also of note: 1890 Engineer is Nikola Tesla, Sniper is Davy Crockett, Medic might be Louis Pasteur, Scout might be Billy the Kid, and I'm sure everyone else is someone too, but I can't identify them.

If they threw in fictional people, I'm sure Heavy is John Henry.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Alex C on 02 Jul 2010, 12:52
The doctor is a toughie, since there's a number of big names from that era. I figured it was Robert Koch, a Nobel Prize winner who isolated tuberculosis and cholera. It's tough get more 1890s than cholera and tuberculosis.

And look at 'im!
(http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1905/koch.jpg)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Alex C on 02 Jul 2010, 13:01
I guess era and age probably doesn't matter that much though, now that I think about it, since Crockett had already led a pretty damn full life by the Alamo, so even assuming he lived through that he'd have been hella old by 1890. At the very least he's inspired by 'im though.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 02 Jul 2010, 15:38
Just consider it a reverse of the real Australia: all Australians here are intelligent, pleasant, civilized people, but Australia is a place where technology is shunned and distrusted by the government forcing the people into a Luddite nightmare.

(Or it's just ****ing hilarious. Also of note: look on the last page. Radigan Conagher built three immortality machines but the last name is obscured. What's going on?)

third one is the announcer?
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Jul 2010, 16:42
I'm guessing no.

I'm thinking it's a reference to the last person mentioned in Zepheniah Mann's will (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/the_last_will_and_testament_of_Zepheniah_Mann/) and cut out of the side of this picture of them (http://www.teamfortress.com/pumpkinpatch/family_portrait/).

The Announcer seems to have either independently come across some other form of immortality to still be the same age in 1890 or is Elizabeth's descendant.

The nerdy conspiracy theorist in me really wants this mystery person to end up being Cave Johnson, founder of Aperture Science.

EDIT: Meanwhile, preparation for the Engie update has begun with this (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Golden_Wrench) being snuck into the game with the last update.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 04 Jul 2010, 21:39
I seems like they started dropping today
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: SirJuggles on 05 Jul 2010, 15:53
I thought this day would never come...

Take it like a man, shorty. (http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 05 Jul 2010, 21:25
Secret Radigan page (http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/radigan/)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 05 Jul 2010, 22:33
There's also two versions of the engineer update page, one without the shotgun revealing some additional jokes underneath:

(I thought the picture of another old TF team was pretty cute) (http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/v00.php)
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: snalin on 06 Jul 2010, 14:29
I was on a server with a guy who got that wrench. It was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 06 Jul 2010, 15:06
I was too.

I also just converted every last weapon I've ever earned into metal to try to get it.

...

I hate you Valve.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 06 Jul 2010, 15:11
3 more wrenches!
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 06 Jul 2010, 17:30
Day 2 is up!

New 'pistol': the Wrangler. Take control of your turret! Double its firing speed! 66% damage reduction!  3 second shutdown if yous top using the Wrangler.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 06 Jul 2010, 17:51
also a new map and achievements
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: snalin on 07 Jul 2010, 10:16
So, you get the wrench randomly from making scrap metal?
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Ozymandias on 07 Jul 2010, 10:22
You get the wrench randomly from crafting anything.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 08 Jul 2010, 16:53
achievements look easy
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 08 Jul 2010, 18:49
holy shit we can move buildings now
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: bicostp on 09 Jul 2010, 08:02
You can make the new Engineer wrench by crafting an Ambassador with scrap metal. It doesn't swing any faster or get random crits, but it does have a bleed effect like the wood Sniper kukri.

Moving buildings is awesome as long as you have a bodyguard. When you're carrying a building, you slow down and can't switch from the toolbox, so you're completely vulnerable. Also if you die while you're moving a building, your building is destroyed along with the toolbox it's in.

I can't wait for the inevitable "Uber engineer carries a L3 sentry behind enemy lines" flanking maneuvers!
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: Yayniall on 10 Jul 2010, 02:45
More importantly, engineers can rocket jump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAbxaVcgu_k) now.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: snalin on 11 Jul 2010, 05:02
I can see that coming in handy, yes.
Title: Re: Move that gear up!
Post by: JD on 12 Aug 2010, 00:19
Trading!?! (http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/08/11/next-tf2-update-adds-trading-new-game-mode/)
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: JD on 30 Sep 2010, 15:35
So anyone gotten into the new update yet?
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Alex C on 30 Sep 2010, 17:13
Nope. I'm getting sort of tired of public servers sucking because people think it's "humiliating" to get killed with the fish, leading to 3 or 4 scouts per side whether it makes sense or not. The first time I got fish killed I was playing a Medic and was on fire at the time and two scouts were chasing me. That's not humiliating; that's just Team Fortress.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Ozymandias on 30 Sep 2010, 18:37
I am so pissed about this update.

Because they made everything you had before it went live 'Vintage'. Which is cool.

But I smelted everything I owned to try to get a golden wrench.

And I am furious with rage. I want to punch a hippie.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Alex C on 30 Sep 2010, 19:03
Me too. Late last night I smelted my last Natascha too. I don't use Natascha but this still bothers me.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: JD on 30 Sep 2010, 19:19
Vintage Sandvich does not sound very delicious.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Ozymandias on 30 Sep 2010, 20:20
What distresses me is that out there some people have vintage vintage tyroleans and merriweathers and those people are not me.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Alex C on 30 Sep 2010, 21:48
Sometimes I think I'm the only person who genuinely enjoys playing medic. It's the improvising moments to be unusually aggressive that makes it worthwhile. Just now, my uber target got blown off the tower by a sticky bomb so I charged the enemy demoman while still uber and sawed his ass before switching back to my medigun (with a bit of uber left to spare) again in order to make back it to the point and finish capping it. I just don't think it occurred to him that I might do that.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: McTaggart on 01 Oct 2010, 06:57
This game is such a bloated mess.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: JD on 01 Oct 2010, 08:03
What distresses me is that out there some people have vintage vintage tyroleans and merriweathers and those people are not me.

Like me.
Title: Re: The Mann-Conomy Update
Post by: Yayniall on 02 Oct 2010, 17:24
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2vj4fet.jpg)