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Title: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: mberan42 on 14 Apr 2009, 14:44
Elite Eight!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/rvdc1l.jpg)

Full bracket: here (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10ms9e9&s=5)

Here's what I noticed from Round Three:
-- Biggest margin of victory: #15 Kind of Blue over #6 Blue Train by 22 votes (also the biggest upset)
-- Closest match: #8 Unknown Pleasures over #12 Happy Songs for Happy People by 5 votes
-- Lowest seeded colour: Yellow, with an average seed of 10.75
-- Highest seeded colour: Blue, with an average seed of 5.25
-- Only ONE first seed left (Low - Things We Lost in the Fire)

Again, you have until 20:00GMT on Monday, 20 April 2009 to vote. (Depending on, as usual, my RL schedule.)

ONE ADDITIONAL POINT OF NOTE - with your vote, please state your preference of a PUBLIC or PRIVATE Final Four and Championship vote.
-- In a PUBLIC vote, we'd do it the exact same way the past four rounds (including this one) have worked.
-- In a PRIVATE vote, everyone would PM me their votes. NO VOTES on the Round Five (Final Four) and Round Six (Championship) pages. My thinking is that people would be more likely to choose their actual favourite album rather than be swayed by the public commentary.

I am not advocating one method over the other - they both have their upsides and downsides. I just want to know everyone's preference.

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: kwami42 on 14 Apr 2009, 14:47
BLUE
Dylan

YELLOW
Radiohead

GREEN
Beatles, but I don't like either that much.

RED
Low

And I'm for a private vote.  I think NMH's demise was partially due to a bunch of whiners who didn't want it to win and got other people to vote similarly.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: michaelicious on 14 Apr 2009, 14:53
Blue

Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

Yellow

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Green

The Beatles - Abbey Road

Orange

Low - Things We Lost in the Fire


Private vote.

Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Inlander on 14 Apr 2009, 14:59
COLOUR 1
n/a

COLOUR 2
Miles Davis

COLOUR 3
Abbey Road

COLOUR 4
London Calling

I think this should be a public vote. Otherwise it's just going to be the most boring list thread in the history of list threads. Surely the point of an exercise such as this should be people arguing and debating and disagreeing with each other about how good a particular album is or why it deserves to win or why it deserves to lose - the journey is more interesting than the destination, folks!
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: rynne on 14 Apr 2009, 15:10
Sgt. Pepper's…
Unknown Pleasures
Kind of Blue
London Calling


PUBLIC.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: the_pied_piper on 14 Apr 2009, 15:11
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public vote.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Dimmukane on 14 Apr 2009, 15:17
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 14 Apr 2009, 16:05
Sgt. Pepper's
n/a
Abbey Road
London Calling


public vote
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: KurtMcAllister on 14 Apr 2009, 16:07
Bob Dylan
Radiohead
The Beatles
Low
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: StaedlerMars on 14 Apr 2009, 16:33

BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Radiohead - OK Computer

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public for reasons stated above.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Thrillho on 14 Apr 2009, 16:39
Bringing It All Back Home
OK Computer
Unknown Pleasures
London Calling
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: kwami42 on 14 Apr 2009, 16:51


Loser.

Ouch.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Calaveth on 14 Apr 2009, 17:00
Blue:

Bringing It All Back Home

Green:

Abbey Road

Yellow:

It takes a nation...oh wait. Kind of Blue then.

Red:

London Calling

Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 14 Apr 2009, 17:33
Public vote next round for sure.
Anyway:

BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

There were some tough choices here for me. Definitely the hardest round to pick since the first. Picking Sgt. Peppers over Dylan wasn't easy. If it had been The Free Wheelin' Bob Dylan, I woulda gone for that but as it was Bringing it All..., well as much as I like it, I guess I appreciate Sgt. Peppers more. Choosing Miles Davis over Radiohead was also extremely tough. I've loved Radiohead for a long time. They're one of the first bands I got into that wasn't bad pop-punk or worse so I have a lot of happy nostalgic feelings connected to their music. Still...it's frickin Miles Davis. I deliberated for a while over that one but I think I made the right choice. I didn't really want to vote for the Beatles twice. I hope they don't win it all. I like them, but they're overrated and I would hate to vote the same way as Rolling Stone would. That being said, I like Abbey Road a heck of a lot more than I like Unknown Pleasure so the vote was kinda a no-brainer even though I wish it had been otherwise. The easiest vote was the last. Low is great. This is their best album. The Clash were cool and all but I never think, 'man I would love to listen to The Clash right now.' My guess is that the next round will be Low vs. The Beatles and The Beatles vs. Miles Davis with a The Beatles vs. The Beatles final bracket...I hope that's not how it is.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 14 Apr 2009, 17:53
I'm going to need to think for a bit before I can choose between Joy Division and The Beatles.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Gridgm on 14 Apr 2009, 17:56
blue
Bob Dylan
yellow
Miles Davis
green
Joy Division
orange
Low

public vote me thinks
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: scarred on 14 Apr 2009, 18:12
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Pubic. errr uhh public.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 14 Apr 2009, 18:27
BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Shaolin on 14 Apr 2009, 18:31
Blue
Bringin it all Back Home

Yellow
Kind of Blue

Green
NA

Orange
London Calling


Definitely public votes.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: DarkAvenger on 14 Apr 2009, 18:38
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire


Public vote. If it were private we'd all just sit around waiting, bored for the winner to be announced. Besides I think we're all smart enough to know the merits of each album we're voting for anyways. ITAOTS isn't the greatest album of all time according to this board and we've just got to understand this fact. If it was the greatest album anyways wouldn't we all be praising it? Wouldn't it be deserved of the massive response it has (sceptically) received? The reason Jens was saying people to vote it down is specifically the reason why you're complaining it didn't win. Public opinion has swayed the masses both ways. I just know what I voted for and why. Frankly "On the Beach" was already voted out but I prefer it to most of whats here. I'm not complaining. So boring rant over.

tl;dr: We're all trying to look cool anyways, might as well do it in front of people.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: michaelicious on 14 Apr 2009, 18:42
I voted for a private vote because sometimes it is fun to be surprised, which I guess doesn't really stand up to the reasons people have put forth for a public vote. Maybe I will change my vote but it looks like it's not really necessary.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scarychips on 14 Apr 2009, 19:02
BLUE
Bob Dylan -- Dringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Radiohead -- Ok Computer

GREEN
Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures

ORANGE
Low -- Things We Lost In The Fire

Public Vote.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: mberan42 on 14 Apr 2009, 19:28
My guess is that the next round will be Low vs. The Beatles and The Beatles vs. Miles Davis with a The Beatles vs. The Beatles final bracket...I hope that's not how it is.

It could actually be Sgt. Pepper's vs. Abbey Road, not as you described it. It's Green vs. Blue and Yellow vs. Orange in the Final Four.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scarychips on 14 Apr 2009, 19:31
Well, the way you did your diagram, it's BLUE Vs. YELLOW and GREEN Vs. ORANGE.

Sorry, I didn't pay attention.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 14 Apr 2009, 19:32
No it's not.  Pay attention to the lines.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Johnny C on 14 Apr 2009, 19:57
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

This. Also, public.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: SilentJ on 14 Apr 2009, 20:45
BLUE
Beatles- Sgt. Pepper's...

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

public vote.  Much as I dislike the shouting and the opinions and whatnot, it really is too late to spring a private vote.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: JimmyJazz on 14 Apr 2009, 21:17
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home
Radiohead - Ok Computer
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
The Clash - Londaon Calling
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Hat on 14 Apr 2009, 21:18
Bringing It All Back Home
Miles Davis
Abbey Road
Things We Lost In The Fire

Also voting for a public vote

Dylan vs Sgt Peppers was a tough one because they're both profoundly overrated but decent enough albums, one by a band I admire deeply and love a whole bunch and one by a man I don't really care that much about, but I ultimately had to sit down and give then both a listen and decided Bob comes out on top based entirely on which I think is the better album.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: De_El on 14 Apr 2009, 22:13

Bob Dylan

Ò
Miles Davis


Joy Division


The Clash

uh, public vote
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Cire27 on 14 Apr 2009, 23:02
Blue
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

Yellow
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Green
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures

Orange
The Clash - London Calling

Public
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 14 Apr 2009, 23:13
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public.

If the Clash somehow win again Low, the only reasonable explanation is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed.  This is a bad move!
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: squawk on 14 Apr 2009, 23:45
Dylan
Davis
Beatles
Low
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Retrospectre on 15 Apr 2009, 00:16
Sgt.Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
OK Computer
Unknown Pleasures
London Calling
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Apr 2009, 04:00
I VOTE FOR PUBIC

BEATLES

MILES

BEATLES

LOW

I briefly considered voting for Dylan or Joy Division for the sake of not having two Beatles albums in the final four but in the end I just couldn't fault either album.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Dazed on 15 Apr 2009, 04:43
Bob Dylan

Miles Davis

The Beatles

The Clash

Public!
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Apr 2009, 08:30
I don't get the Sgt. Pepper's love. Granted, most would consider even a lesser Beatles album to be one of the greatest things ever made, but I'm not sure it would even make my top five Beatles albums. John's work on the album seems really lazy to me. I mean I'd let it win just for 'A Day In The Life' against many albums, but not on this particular poll. Bringing It All Back Home however, I think is Dylan's greatest work, seeing as it's the direct bridge between his protest and speed-fuelled electric eras.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Liz on 15 Apr 2009, 10:27
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low - Things We Lost In The Fire

Public vote.

My votes exactly. I like the way this guy thinks.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: IronOxide on 15 Apr 2009, 10:35
BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

ORANGE
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire

I'm gonna say Public, also what the fuck Blue Train is much better than Kind of Blue.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 15 Apr 2009, 10:38
I don't get the Sgt. Pepper's love. Granted, most would consider even a lesser Beatles album to be one of the greatest things ever made, but I'm not sure it would even make my top five Beatles albums. John's work on the album seems really lazy to me. I mean I'd let it win just for 'A Day In The Life' against many albums, but not on this particular poll. Bringing It All Back Home however, I think is Dylan's greatest work, seeing as it's the direct bridge between his protest and speed-fuelled electric eras.


for me, it was the first Beatles album i ever heard in it's entirety and was aware that it was The Beatles so it sort of stuck in my mind and never left. i mean, i'm only 22 so when i was growing up all the Beatles albums had been out for quite a while and were fairly ubiquitous so most of the time i would know a Beatles song by heart but not even know that it was The Beatles until years later. this didn't happen with Sgt. Pepper's because most of those songs seemed to stay off the radio waves for the most part when i was a kid so it was like hearing a brand new band for the first time.

it was just a very influential album when i was young, and most of the music i listen to today can sort of be related or traced right back to Sgt. Pepper's in some way.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 15 Apr 2009, 11:20
Liz knows what's up.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: De_El on 15 Apr 2009, 13:37
I didn't even know people liked Abbey Road that much. Granted it is a Beatles album, but I'd always considered it kind of lesser compared to Rubber Soul and Revolver.  For me, choosing Unknown Pleasures over it was almost patently obvious.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: UTAlan on 15 Apr 2009, 14:08
Blue
-

Yellow
Radiohead

Green
Joy Division

Orange
The Clash

Public.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 15 Apr 2009, 14:15
I expected silly comments like, "The only reasonable explanation [why someone would vote for The Clash] is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed!"

Care to expand on why this is silly?

Because seriously, London Calling has managed to become really popular in spite of being a fairly boring album.  Maybe it was pretty cool when it came out, but so many albums from around the same time have aged much better.  I see no reason why it should continue to get the love it does.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: mberan42 on 15 Apr 2009, 14:16
I didn't even know people liked Abbey Road that much. Granted it is a Beatles album, but I'd always considered it kind of lesser compared to Rubber Soul and Revolver.  For me, choosing Unknown Pleasures over it was almost patently obvious.

Abbey Road is my favourite Beatles album, by far. There's such a depth to it that, in my opinion, isn't found in either Rubber Soul or Revolver. Don't get me wrong, I love both Rubber Soul and Revolver (and to a lesser extent Sgt. Pepper's, but the depth argument can be made two-fold), but to me, Abbey Road is by far the premier Beatles album.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 15 Apr 2009, 14:17
I'm with Matt here.  Abbey Road takes the cake for me as far as The Beatles are concerned.  It's Sgt. Peppers that always struck me as a back runner in their catalogue.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 15 Apr 2009, 14:24
I expected silly comments like, "The only reasonable explanation [why someone would vote for The Clash] is that not enough of you have heard that Low record, and are voting uninformed!"

Care to expand on why this is silly?

Because seriously, London Calling has managed to become really popular in spite of being a fairly boring album.  Maybe it was pretty cool when it came out, but so many albums from around the same time have aged much better.  I see no reason why it should continue to get the love it does.

i voted for London Calling because, as much as i like Low, i really don't like that album at all. for me, it's all about I Could Live In Hope and pretty much none of their other stuff. i'm probably a minority in that respect though.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: De_El on 15 Apr 2009, 14:27
My continuing education on other people's opinions. I'm also pretty surprised that of the Dylan albums that first started the one that made it this far was Bringing It All Back Home. I had previously had the impression Blood on the Tracks and Highway 61 were more popular, although I don't think I'd say I like it any less.  Blood on the Tracks got pretty fucked being seeded against Kind of Blue.  I suppose if people thought it deserved to win they would've voted for it, though.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: StaedlerMars on 15 Apr 2009, 15:00
Like you said, it's all about seeding.

The fact that some albums got it this far happened only because of the other albums they were placed against happened to be less popular.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 15 Apr 2009, 15:37
I'm sorry.  I was making the assumption that the members of the forum had taste.







Just joking around.  Promise.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 15 Apr 2009, 15:52
Like you said, it's all about seeding.

For sure! If you ask me, MONO and Modest Mouse should have been knocked out last round at the earliest. I mean, that's obviously personal bias so maybe MONO isn't a good example but MM should definitely have made it further and I think unlucky seeding is the only reason it didn't.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Beren on 15 Apr 2009, 16:18
BLUE

Sgt. Peppers

Yellow


OK Computer

Green

Joy Division

Orange

Low

And public.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 15 Apr 2009, 16:38
Like you said, it's all about seeding.

For sure! If you ask me, MONO and Modest Mouse should have been knocked out last round at the earliest. I mean, that's obviously personal bias so maybe MONO isn't a good example but MM should definitely have made it further and I think unlucky seeding is the only reason it didn't.

yeah, that's why i'm not really into the whole seeding/brackets style of elimination for this type of thing. i think a "start with 30. round 1: pick 20, round two: pick 10 etc. etc." or something similar would be better. that way you can choose whichever ones you actually think ARE better rather than being forced to choose between two amazing albums or two crappy albums.
so there's my two cents, for future reference.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 15 Apr 2009, 18:13
The Beatles
This one wasn't easy, both the artist themselves and the album rate very highly for me, even though I think they have better albums. I just find Sgt. Peppers easier to go back to than Brining..., and that's why it wins.
Miles Davis
Sorry Radiohead, but you're just not Miles Davis and Friends. And you never will be. While OK Computer is a nice listen and Paranoid Android is a brilliant song and the rest of the album is near it's level, there's just something about the opening of So What that gets music absolutely perfect.
The Beatles
Abbey Road is my favourite Beatles album (objective best beatles album still undecided) because while the songs are brilliant on their own, as a full piece it just keeps building and getting better as it goes. Joy Divisions inconsistency in the quality of songs over their albums just doesn't come close.
The Clash
Because I haven't heard Things we lost. No, I kid. It's a cool album, but it tapers off as soon as it should really get going; and while London Calling opens with it's best song, the quality doesn't dip, and even though it is a bit long I'd have a hard time finding anything to cut from it.

Also, these four albums have the better covers. Huh.

Addendum: You're all dicks for not voting for Pet Sounds.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: JD on 15 Apr 2009, 18:19
BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
The Clash - London Calling

Public vote.

This
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: RedLion on 16 Apr 2009, 07:19
BLUE
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
The Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
The Clash - London Calling

Public vote.

Same here. The second half of Abbey Road is an amazing work of music. Especially the last three movements of the suite: Golden Slumbers, Carry that Weight, and The End. Beautiful stuff.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Liz on 16 Apr 2009, 19:19
Liz knows what's up.

Damn straight. All y'all need to pay attention to what this guy says.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Christophe on 16 Apr 2009, 19:32
BLUE
Abstain

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Joy Division- Unknown Pleasures

RED
Low- Things We Lost In The Fire

Public vote.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: tommydski on 16 Apr 2009, 20:48
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing it All Back Home

YELLOW
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

GREEN
Beatles - Abbey Road

RED
Low- Things We Lost In The Fire

Public vote.

Also - I can definitely understand people voting against Low as much as I disagree but voting for Sgt Peppers in this round is inexcusable.

I actually can't believe it. If you'd have asked me I would have guessed maybe one in fifty would stoop so low. Shell-shocked.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: RedLion on 19 Apr 2009, 11:14
Is it that hard to believe that there are some people out there who aren't that big of fans of Bob Dylan?
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Joseph on 19 Apr 2009, 12:16
I guess not, but in a similar way to it not being hard to believe people would vote for George Bush.  There is evidence, just no explanation.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Johnny C on 19 Apr 2009, 12:24
it's amazing to me that sgt. pepper's got as far as it did

also i'm changing my vote from unknown pleasures to abbey road
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: JayJayD on 19 Apr 2009, 12:27
Abstain
Unknown Pleasures
Kind of Blue
London Calling

Hate to vote against OK Computer and the Low album, but the other albums are simply better
(this woud be different if another Low album made it to that bracket, like the debut.)

Indifferent about private or public vote in the final rounds.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: pwhodges on 19 Apr 2009, 12:58
Bringing it all back home
Kind of Blue
Abbey Road
London Calling

Public - going private after all the discussion we've already had would be entirely pointless.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Catacombs on 19 Apr 2009, 20:22
BLUE
Bob Dylan - Bringing It All Back Home

Both are great albums, though I think both artists should be represented by a different album.  I do think Sgt. Pepper's... is an excellent album, but apart from the time period and influence around it, its not their best album at all.  It's hit or miss, with too many holes throughout it.  Dylan wins for his consistency.


GREEN
the Beatles - Abbey Road

My favorite Beatles album by a long shot; it's the album that got me into the Beatles.  It's just a really great album, especially considering the second half is compiled of unfinished songs.  Also, I do not like Joy Division.


YELLOW
Radiohead - Ok Computer

It's a shame that this is getting shot down so much.  IMO, it's their most solid album.  "Electioneering" and "Paranoid Android" are two of my favorite songs by them.  Also, Miles Davis is good, but jazz is more of something I NEED to be in the mood for.  If anything off Ok... came on my iPod at any time, I'd leave it be.


ORANGE
the Clash - London Calling

This is a pretty good album, but it wouldn't be in my top...fifty probably.  But I don't like Low, so its got my vote.


Also, PUBLIC.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 19 Apr 2009, 20:33
If anything off Ok... came on my iPod at any time, I'd leave it be.


Really? Even 'The Tourist'? That's one song I never really got. The 'great closers' thread made me think of this album b/c it has precisely what I would consider a very weak closing song (it's one of the least memorable parts of the album, I think).
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: JimmyJazz on 19 Apr 2009, 20:36
I dunno, I personall really like. The way it builds and Johnny's guitar playing during the chorus seals the deal for me. But yea, I agree with you that it isn't one of the albums stronger moments.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: SilentJ on 19 Apr 2009, 20:54
Maybe it's a bias on my part, but I'm somewhat surprised at the... not so much bashing of, but sort of a stigma against Sgt. Pepper's, I guess you could say.

Like, I don't see anybody saying that it's a bad album, but a good amount of the people voting for Dylan that explained their votes said something about how much they like Dylan's work as a whole, and this album in particular, but when it came to Sgt. Pepper's all I'm seeing is a pretty collective "...eehhhhhh"

I just get so happy when I listen to that record.  Even the songs that aren't so happy in and of themselves, or that are but do not sound as much, can put a smile on my face.  For example, Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! does not paticularly have a happy feel to it.  The ominous harpsichord throughout and the use of the wind sound effect don't seem like something I'd smile at, but rather it'd creep me out somewhat.  But I hear that song and I just can't stop smiling.  Every song on the album is like that, and I love it.
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: Johnny C on 19 Apr 2009, 23:38
Really? Even 'The Tourist'?

honestly would you really leave your ipod be if suddenly you were bombarded with "fitter happier"
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: el_loco_avs on 20 Apr 2009, 01:19
This is hard  :-(

6. Bob Dylan - Bringing it all back home
(I just plain like it better than Sgt Peppers.
13. Radiohead - OK Computer
This one was a ridiculously hard choice, It came down that at any random moment I'd be more into listening to OKC than KoB. But... even then. Argh. I hate voting against an album I love so much.
2. The Beatles - Abbey Road
Just an amazing classic.
1. Low - Things we lost in the fire



Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 20 Apr 2009, 06:33
Really? Even 'The Tourist'?

honestly would you really leave your ipod be if suddenly you were bombarded with "fitter happier"

Oh yeah! When OKC comes to my mind, I think I forget about that one. A subconscious mental block perhaps?
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 20 Apr 2009, 08:11
I think that's actually a pretty good track.  The piano in the background and the odd little effects make it interesting to listen to, and the lyrics are very atmospheric and set up a good mood if you actually listen to them.  "The Tourist" is the real disappointment on that album, and it's not even that bad.

EDIT: Last minute entrance into the contest!

BLEU
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Not as hard a choice as I thought it would be.  I listened to both albums back to back, and though I liked BIABH a whole lot, it just didn't have enough bells and whistles to keep me interested.  The music was good, and the lyrics were passable (though he had a tendency of repeating himself), but the energy and variety and overall musicality of Sgt. Pepper's was much more captivating and kept me entertained throughout the entire album (Lovely Rita especially).

MIDORI
The Beatles - Abbey Road

So I takes a listen to Joy Division, I takes, and a first time listen says to me: "I am the winner.  This is unlike any album you've heard before.  You are voting for me."  Truly, Curtis's lyrics/voice and the rest of the band's tightly constrained desperation drew me in and really gave me a reel, and the fact that Abbey Road is my second least favorite Beatles album really solidified this fact for me from the start.  ...And then I gave Abbey Road a playthrough.  I must admit, I am a sucker for production and this is what this album has in spades.  The songs, while nowhere near my favorites, are still extraordinarily composed and George Martin's warm Reverb-and-Delay-heavy production compliments their arrangements incredibly well.  I guess this goes to prove that even a secondary Beatles album is still a Beatles album.  Joy Division is definitely a new favorite of mine, but Unknown Pleasures just could not match up to the second half of Abbey Road alone.

GELB
Radiohead - OK Computer

Another surprise to myself, as once more, one of my least favorite albums by an artist have made it to the semisemi-finals.  I play Kind of Blue and enjoy it thoroughly, the dark and mellow tones of Davis and Friends made me feel very chilled out, and put me in a pretty good mood.  All the songs are around 10 minutes long, but you never feel that.  The just seem to skirt along and end themselves in a very timely fashion.  Very good and atmospheric.  However, I realize, that I just don't have too much experience with Jazz and I could have been listening to most good Jazz albums and enjoy myself just the same.  If you played me one of the songs, I wouldn't be able to tell you which one it was.  I hear OK Computer, and I immediately know who it is, what song it is and who plays what part of the song.  I discount OKC, but when I listened to it I was impressed with how good it was and how dynamic all the songs were.  The lyrics were a bit weak, but Yorke's vocal melodies make up for it tenfold.  Greenwood manages an incredible atmosphere, and the rhythm section is impressively tight and original.  The verdict would be that Kind of Blue is amazing, but just doesn't stick with me like OK Computer does.

ROJO
The Clash - London Calling

This was tough.  I liked the Low album when I listened to it, and I was lukewarm about the Clash album, but I think someone else explained it much better.


London Calling vs. Things We Lost in the Fire was an interesting fight: vibrant punk energy vs. slow-slow-oh! atmosphere. This proved to be a battle of endurance. The Clash struck first with London Calling, Low countered with Sunflower and Whitetail, but in the end not even Dinosaur Act could save them from the onslaught. The second half of TWLITF just couldn't hold up against the steady blows of The Clash. A final knockout punch from Train in Vain sealed the deal in the fourth round.

I went with the four albums I had already heard out of this seed!  Huge surprise!
Title: Re: Album Nomination Game -- ROUND FOUR
Post by: mberan42 on 20 Apr 2009, 13:29
This round be CLOSED, yo.

Gimme a little while, then round five will be up.