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I've been in desperate need for some new Metal music. I like deathmetal, but i also like instrumental and melodic metal.
Recently I've been listing too:
- Children of Bodom
- The Acacia Strain
- I Killed the Prom Queen
- Lacuna Coil
- Misery Signals
Seriously, what is everyone's favorite metal bands, I'd love to check em out. I NEED new stuff to listen to.
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Zao
Dimmu Borgir
Arch Enemy
Augury
Agalloch
The Devil Wears Prada (they have a couple of songs that i really like, despite the terrible name)
Between The Buried & Me
this is just off the top of my head, i don't listen to much metal these days.
edit: you should probably take the image out of your sig, they are heavily frowned upon here and some people can be pretty hostile when it comes to the rules and new people. just a heads up!
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Thanks for the heads up.. i was wondering about that.. i started noticing that people didn't have them.
Anyway, which of those would you recommend the most?
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dunno about him but I'm gonna second the Agalloch suggestion
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The Haunted - The Dead Eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IvLABwaHU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IvLABwaHU4)
Strapping Young Lad - City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrNOqVZbwWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrNOqVZbwWw)
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Mastadon,Kyuss,Agalloch, Boris, Sunn O)))
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some metal albums released this year that I have been enjoying immensely, in alphabetical order:
Amesoeurs - s/t: think spacey post-rock infused black metal. if you like Agaloch you'll like these guys
Animals as Leaders - s/t: hands down one of my favorite metal albums this year. The guitarist is way too talented. I also upped this album in the mf!re thread a little while back...
Architects - Hollow Crown: pretty technical metalcore. You'll like LOVE these guys if you like IKAPQ/Acacia/MisSigs
Darkest Hour - The Eternal Return: American-style Swedish melodic death. After a couple listens, this is definitely their best since Hidden Hands of a Sadist Nation (which I would probably check out first - that album is amazing)
Goatwhore - Carving Out the Eyes of God: blackened death metal with catchy riffs that are sludgy as fcuk and heavier than a hundred walruses.
Gorod - Process of a New Decline: I'm still not sure how these guys can be as technical as they can and still maintain an amazing level of melody and coherence. Crazy talented, these guys are.
Hacricide - Lazarus: Another one of my favorite albums so far this year. Heavy, techincal, amazing songwriting and dynamism. Some of the softer parts reminded me of NIN, mixed with heavier Meshuggah/Gojira like riffing. A Definite must listen.
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos: THRASH/CIRCLEPIT/THRASH
Nightrage - Wearing a Martyr's Crown: Top-notch melodic death metal. Catchy riffs + solos with outrageous vibrato and scale runs = really fun listen
Obscura - Cosmogenesis : Techinical death metal with sexy fretless bass, razar-sharp riffs, ridicilous solos. Seriously, that bass,
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some metal albums released this year that I have been enjoying immensely, in alphabetical order:
Amesoeurs - s/t: think spacey post-rock infused black metal. if you like Agaloch you'll like these guys
Animals as Leaders - s/t: hands down one of my favorite metal albums this year. The guitarist is way too talented. I also upped this album in the mf!re thread a little while back...
Architects - Hollow Crown: pretty technical metalcore. You'll like LOVE these guys if you like IKAPQ/Acacia/MisSigs
Darkest Hour - The Eternal Return: American-style Swedish melodic death. After a couple listens, this is definitely their best since Hidden Hands of a Sadist Nation (which I would probably check out first - that album is amazing)
Goatwhore - Carving Out the Eyes of God: blackened death metal with catchy riffs that are sludgy as fcuk and heavier than a hundred walruses.
Gorod - Process of a New Decline: I'm still not sure how these guys can be as technical as they can and still maintain an amazing level of melody and coherence. Crazy talented, these guys are.
Hacricide - Lazarus: Another one of my favorite albums so far this year. Heavy, techincal, amazing songwriting and dynamism. Some of the softer parts reminded me of NIN, mixed with heavier Meshuggah/Gojira like riffing. A Definite must listen.
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos: THRASH/CIRCLEPIT/THRASH
Nightrage - Wearing a Martyr's Crown: Top-notch melodic death metal. Catchy riffs + solos with outrageous vibrato and scale runs = really fun listen
Obscura - Cosmogenesis : Techinical death metal with sexy fretless bass, razar-sharp riffs, ridicilous solos. Seriously, that bass,
Thanks for the discriptions.. Im gonna start looking up a few of these right now. :)
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i'll second Darkest Hour. the more i listen to them, the more they're becoming possibly my favourite metal band, at least of the modern crop of metal bands anyway. any of the last four albums ("hidden hands of a sadist nation," "undoing ruin," "deliver us," and "the eternal return") are all a good bet. what came before wasn't bad, but not a patch on those four.
i'd also recommend, in a similar vein, Sylosis, a UK melodic thrash metal band. "conclusion of an age," their full length, is amazing, but i'd definitely recommend searching for their earlier EPs "the supreme oppressor" and "casting shadows."
oh, and if you want to hear the most badass melodic death album ever, and also find out where most of the metalcore/deathcore/melodic death (etc.) bands got their ideas from, check out Carcass' "Heartwork" - a fucking masterpiece.
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These recommendation... what the hell? Do you people really have that bad taste in metal?
I'd like to cancel out the Agalloch suggestion. Bland and terrible. Same with, well, most of the other bands here.
Metallica's first four, Megadeth up to Rust in Peace and Slayer up too Reign in Blood are all pretty essential. Excellent thrash free of gimmicks- and the material from these guys is all really different.
Bolt Thrower and Unleashed would be my favourite death metal bands. Free from triggers and monotonous songwriting, just heaps of really huge riffs. Every Bolt Thrower album sounds exactly the same (except for the debut) so just pick one at random, you can't lose. For Unleashed I'd recommend Where No Life Dwells. Otherwise, Demilich and Cosmic Atrophy both win by virtue of sheer weirdness and excellent songwriting.
In terms of doom metal good starting points would be Candlemass (King of the Grey Islands probably isn't their best but it's my favourite) and maybe My Dying Bride's Turn Loose the Swans. I guess some Sabbath would also be good- get Paranoid, Master of Reality and/or Heaven and Hell. For weirder slow albums I'd recommend Thergothon's Stream from the Heavens, Disembowelment's Transcendence into the Peripheral, and Nadja's Touched. These three albums are pretty inaccessible, though.
General heavy metal is simple- Iron Maiden (get NotB and maybe their s/t) Judas Priest (sad wings of destiny, screaming for vengeance, Painkiller) and some Manilla Road (pretty much any album).
All of these bands are great; gimmick free (unlike most of the previous recs) and just chock full of great music. I've got a bunch more suggestions but this will be enough for now, I guess.
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Animals as Leaders - s/t: hands down one of my favorite metal albums this year. The guitarist is way too talented. I also upped this album in the mf!re thread a little while back...
Wow.. ill ive listen to so far is this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VixG3b-C7Fk and It blew me away already. Great recommendation!
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I'd like to cancel out the Agalloch suggestion.
I'd like you to blow me.
I'll cover the stuff that I don't really hear anyone mentioning around here. Try Corrosion of Conformity (from Blind onward, at least. Haven't heard their earlier stuff, it is impossible to find), Crowbar (try Lifesblood for the Downtrodden, that one is more accessible than their early stuff), and Down. Also, Alabama Thunderpussy, and Black Label Society, to round out the southern metal / sludge metal while not getting into anything too off-putting. I know someone is going to come in here suggesting Eyehategod, but I don't really find them a good example of how to get to like the genre.
Some of the bands other people have recommended might not be something you like at first, I know I have gotten to really like stuff that I would have despised if I had started listening to it before the gateway bands. Agalloch in particular tends to be an acquired taste, Caspian is just too much of a philistine to have ever acquired it. They are not really a band you sit down and listen to intently, they are too slow for that, they make better background music.
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If you like slow, heavy, slow, heavy music, you are tragically missing out if you have not yet listened to:
Electric Wizard, Sleep, Om, Acid King, Sons of Otis, YOB, 5ive, Zoroaster, Bongripper, Eternal Elysium, Indian, and UfoMammut.
Among many others, of course.
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Bolded are ones people have already posted (that are really good)
!T.O.O.H.! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egw9BCKjHqk) - if you never listen to another grindcore song in your life, listen to this one. Whoever uploaded it messed with the levels a bit, though.
Agalloch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCAsN09ZAzE&feature=fvst) - Caspian, you've obviously never gotten stoned and driven on a winding mountain road during a snowstorm listening to Ashes Against the Grain.
Anata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cowImMH1Lo) - these guys are...harmonic death metal? Kind of a dueling-guitarist type deal.
Arch Enemy - these guys are pretty famous now, most of their stuff is pretty solid (even the albums with Johan Liiva, I don't care if the dude was shite for live shows and a prick)
Arcturus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXD24JDpGGQ&feature=related) - The Sham Mirrors is what you want to check out
Arsis - check out the song 'A Diamond For Disease', honestly it's the only song of theirs I like, but you'd probably like some of their other stuff. That song is too long for youtube, though.
Augury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adZnMonDogU&feature=related) - probably my favorite band. Metal for comets to listen to during their trips through the void.
Baroness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_U2ZFe1wtc) - I just found this fanmade video, it's pretty sweet.
Cynic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRbLaNqsxhM&feature=related) - fuck all the haters. Not that there are any on this board. Proto-tech-death-jazz-fusion.
Dethklok - needs no explanation
Genghis Tron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJWgInNEfQ) - I would just like to point out that if brokenCYDE and Attack Attack! had an antithesis, it is these guys. No crabcore here.
In Flames - any of their albums up to Whoracle, really driving melodeath/viking type stuff. After that they kind of stopped being good. The Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance still hasn't gotten old.
Kronos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQAEgS3dOU&feature=related) - see Colossal Titan Strife. Probably the most deathy band I'm recommending.
Lykathea Aflame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimRwSbq2bk) - the second most deathy. We will probably never hear music like theirs again.
Mastodon - this board is kind of love/hate about them. I like them. Whatever.
the Pax Cecilia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkPwyb3KNM&feature=related) - if Opeth wasn't so wanky, this is what they'd sound like. You'd probably like Opeth, too.
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Meshuggah is some sweet mathy metal, you should try obZen by them. Also I'd like to 2nd Between the Buried and Me, Alaska and Colors are GREAT albums. Anything ISIS has touched is gold, as well as Pelican and Russian Circles if you like the whole post-metal thing. Mastodon is sweet stoner/prog too... I'm just gonna list some more of these:
Baroness - amazing southern prog metal
BORIS - REALLY heavy Japanese stoner/doom metal
Cult of Luna - Swedish post-metal band, somewhat similar to ISIS, perhaps a bit darker
The Dillinger Escape Plan - thrashy, mathy experimental metal, perhaps a bit hardcore in it as well
Gojira - awesome Prog. Death metal, if you like BTBAM you will likely like this, and perhaps even if you don't
High on Fire - fantastic thrashy stoner/doom metal
Kylesa - again with the southern metal, somewhat crust-punk/psychedelic tinged
Neurosis - the original "post-metal" band, slow and atmospheric, crushingly heavy
OM - drone/stoner metal with an Eastern European tinge. Somewhat spiritual in nature, think of chanting.
Jesu - drone metal, but generally major key and more upbeat. I call it power drone.
Opeth - classic progressive death metal band, nobody really does it better than these guys.
Rosetta - another post-metal band, their self description of "Neurosis covering Stars of the Lid" says it best.
Sleep - Stoner/doom metal, original members went on to form High on Fire and OM, respectively. Sleep's Holy Mountain and Dopesmoker are amazing.
Sunn O))) - Drone doom metal, perhaps the best (or most well-known). Sounds dark, IMPOSSIBLY heavy, and equally slow.
Tombs - An interesting mix of atmospheric black metal and thrash, Winter Hours is a great album.
Torche - another very thick, heavy southern metal band, with pop influences of all things. Pop doom? I guess it's possible.
Wolves in the Throne Room - amazing atmospheric black metal/ambient music.
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guys, I can accept that I'm the only one who doesn't like Agalloch (it should be noted that I have a boner for lots of other slow, atmospheric metal, just not weak, limp wristed stuff) but seriously.. The Dillinger Escape Plan? How in the hell are they metal? It's technical hardcore.. there's little to no metal influence at all.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but the amount of really abysmal hipster metal recommendations (this coming from a dude who has no problem with Isis, jesu and Nadja, among others) in this thread is making me a sad panda. On another note, Dethklok is a terrible show and the soundtrack reflects that.
High on Fire is a sweet band, though. I can dig that.
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The dude has no mercy!
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or tact
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or manners!
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guys, I can accept that I'm the only one who doesn't like Agalloch
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but the amount of really abysmal hipster metal recommendations (this coming from a dude who has no problem with Isis, jesu and Nadja, among others) in this thread is making me a sad panda. On another note, Dethklok is a terrible show and the soundtrack reflects that.
As far as Agalloch goes, you have to be in a particular mindset to really enjoy them. It's pretty easy to get into that headspace, but I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't like them. Did you even like the closer on AATG, though?
I tried to avoid putting up hipster metal stuff, or stoner metal stuff for that matter. I figured everyone else would take care of that. I know I don't really fap over half of those bands like some of the people on here. Probably not his cup of tea, anyways.
But c'mon. Dethklok? What about Spinal Tap? Well, I guess I understand that one, too. The reason I love Metalocalypse so much is because I used to be one of those dudes bent on finding the craziest metal with the weirdest stories behind it. If you've never been part of that culture or understood how those people think, the humor is generally lost after first viewing. I've watched both seasons at least 5 times now. I still maintain that Go Into The Water is a pretty boss track.
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I like Spinal Tap a fair bit. I just don't think Dethklok is terribly funny. It's nothing to do with me being all po-faced or whatever; the art of the show isn't terribly good, and it's just not a particularly funny show. The music isn't terrible, but I can't really say I like it.
I guess calling it a terrible show was an overreaction. it's a mediocre show.
With Agalloch- I've reviewed all of their full lengths on metal-archives if you want to get my opinion on them. I don't really hate them, I guess you could say it annoys me more that people seem to really like them. It's like Tool or Opeth; the music is "yeah it's ok" but combined with the fanboys... :(
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Huh, I'm pretty sure I've actually read most of those before. Don't remember The Mantle, but I remember the Pale Folklore one, and the Ashes one is extremely similar to one I remember reading on Metal Observer. Did you put that one up too?
Would I be accurate in saying that a large part of your problem is with how popular they are? You seem to be much more positive about them in the first review, which was written a year and a half before the next, and another year before the last. You even said you liked Ashes in the review for Pale Folklore, before decided that you hated it.
It's really difficult to write this post because I have such a hard time understanding the review. I understand the words you use, I understand what they mean, but I would never guess what album you are talking about if I just read it at random.
When you referred to a lack of catharsis at the end of the song, what do you mean? The sort of huge-sounding part at the end of a lot of post-rock? It seems like that (along with the guitar tone) is more of a matter of taste (please don't make the obvious joke here), it isn't that they forgot to put it in, it is that they intentionally wrote it without one.
Where are you getting the coldplay part from? You mention it pretty constantly, but I'm not hearing it at all. I will grant you, however, that the bit in Skyline pt.3 is absolutely terrible, I wince every time I hear it.
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The first album was written when I was still a bit of a newb in the world of metal. (and yeah, I used to write for TMO). I still prefer it to the others.. I'd probably give it a 60% nowdays. Popularity isn't an issue, at least not a conscious one- I'm a Metallica fanboy and have no problem with a bunch of oft-fellated bands (Isis and Neurosis being obvious examples).
Lack of catharsis- no I'm not meaning a post rock freak out or anything. I'm just saying the songs don't really go anywhere. With most bands around there's some sort of satisfaction as to when the climax has came and went and the song's done- that just doesn't happen with Agalloch. Kind of hard to properly articulate what i mean here- I guess there's no release of emotion at the end of the song.
Coldplay is just me doing a bit of exaggeration. Agalloch are accessible, melodic, and bland as all hell- metal's MOR. Coldplay is also accessible, melodic and bland. Obviously there's no great musical influence or what have you.
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the Pax Cecilia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkPwyb3KNM&feature=related) - if Opeth wasn't so wanky, this is what they'd sound like. You'd probably like Opeth, too.
Do these guys usually get brought up in metal discussion? I mean their second album I guess gets pretty metal but their first is basically textbook screamo.
Also Aggaloch bland? Really? Eh I guess you can have yr own opinion.
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I'm actually basing this on the dudes post, unlike most people in this thread (honourable exceptions) just listing every heavy band they've heard of, and I am giving youtube videos as always.
Basically dude I think your first port of call should be a little town called Gothenburg.
These bands should all definitely tickle your fancy, then we can progress.
Arch Enemy - Leader of the Rats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ENlqjnJfU)
At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJme5uubkyQ)
Dark Tranquillity - Monochromatic Stains (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1W8HJLV5s)
Darkane - Innocence Gone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqLwStPONdM)
Edge of Sanity - Elegy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5QT1736y4k)
In Flames - Pinball Map (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCvq8VN9owY&feature=related)
Nightingale - Losing Myself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p81HgSJ3luM)
And a few more similiar (and some less similiar) things to consider:
Amon Amarth - The Pursuit of Vikings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPRt6Tt6RyM&feature=fvst)
Amorphis - Against Widows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En_OKjztXUQ)
Cryptic Wintermoon - Synthetic Gods (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_7w2Y7BqE&feature=related)
Dissection - Thorns of Crimson Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xn3BnYaFSk)
Kalmah - They Will Return (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz2irxsZKH0)
Katatonia - Murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05gpMm6tv_s)
Moonspell - Opium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoooX3OVGoI&feature=fvst)
Opeth - Bleak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB1NuL-8Dhc)
Tiamat - Cain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIg5lrbEwU&feature=fvst)
All of these are good songs. Some of these are great songs. Together they point the way to a firm foundation from which you can begin to fully appreciate the more exotic and difficult genres of metal.
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A great list
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... no Skyclad?
I know you based your list on his list but still ... from you, no Skyclad?
Well ... I recommend Skyclad. To anyone.
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Caspian, basically what I'm getting out of your posts is that you're BAAAAW'ing because people's taste in metal aren't as "correct" as yours. So, basically you're bitching to hear yourself bitch, because it doesn't really add anything constructive to the topic at all.
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I know you based your list on his list but still ... from you, no Skyclad?
Nothing on his list really indicates he will appreciate Skyclad. Yet. Oh, we'll get him there. We'll get him everywhere. The discovery of the many genres and forms of metal is something to be taken slowly and savoured. By making each musical step small one can more fully appreciate the next step along the way. You can't really expect a dude to jump straight from CoB to Unleashed, even less so some of the other stuff people have been suggesting. You show the dude classic gothenburg MDM first, then work him back through the Edge of Sanity catalogue, you make him conversant with the work of Bloodbath, then reverently, like a priest giving the sacrament, you hand him the three sacred tomes of Scandinavian death metal: Left Hand Path, Where No Life Dwells and Soulless. Then, once the awe has left his heart, Vader, Decapitated, Carcass, Behemoth perhaps, Bolt Thrower and maybe even Napalm Death...
Fuck, I wish it could all be new to me again.
Also, if you're going to compare any melo-black band to Coldplay, shouldn't it be Woods of Ypres? Dude come on are we even listening to the same band? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaddQxNa66E)
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You do have a way with words, Khar. My suggestions probably don't fit him too well, I was thinking of metal nobody else ever mentions, and I was also mixing up Children of Bodom with Lamb of God, I always do that.
OiC, maybe it is like how people that eat too much spicy food lose the ability to taste more subtle things? Of course in this case, it isn't necessarily subtle tastes, but a subtle taste.
I'm seconding Khar's Katatonia recommendation, by the way. Especially Brave Murder Day. I like their other stuff as well, but BMD is the best.
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I just really love metal. Sometimes I forget how much, but I do love it so. I will be sitting there listening to my neo-folk or industrial or dub or whatever, and suddenly winamp will grab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sls_KryfU0&feature=related) me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S9GV1HrAiU) by (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iqYNAFxT6A) the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bjzxIZJdZk) FUCKING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pPK9LIa34) BALLS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUkgUaKD188) and make me remember.
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random mindless elitist drivel
hey, thread starter, don't end up being like THIS^ guy. not that i think you will, but still, there seems to be a disturbingly large proportion of people who get into metal who suddenly get that kinda mindset, and as annoying as it is for everyone else, the worst part is that their closedmindedness stops them from hearing and getting into stuff they might themselves enjoy if they gave a chance.
i'm not gonna say i like EVERY band that's been suggested on this thread, but don't let pricks like this guy sway you - check it all out and make your own mind up.
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In Flames - any of their albums up to Whoracle, really driving melodeath/viking type stuff. After that they kind of stopped being good. The Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance still hasn't gotten old.
This, just the total other way around. Everything from Clayman and onwards blows my mind, every day. In Flames has the track record of Gods and shit. Seriously. Check out the single they released with the latest album - Tilt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAt9Yfy1WU&feature=related), Earser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY8NEWD2eWg) and Abnegation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6hWk5hqK88) are all fucking awesome songs (click the HQ button, it does wonders with the sound)
The band did a big change of direction midway through their career. I think they've gotten better, more melodic, and their vocalist learned to sing/growl properly. There's always someone going "bluh bluh COLONY bluh bluh" in every single fucking review and youtube-comment section. It made me give up on music reviewers in general.
Other bands:
Nightrage - A new disease is born HELL YES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjINfktVHq09). This one works better in normal quality. huh...
Eluveitie is pure melodeath/folk love, check out inis Mona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o&feature=fvst). The second (Spirit) and third (Slania) albums are really epic and , the last was a acoustic thing, still good, but not metal. They have promised to return with more growl and metal and awesome.
Soilwork - Okay, these guys are best buddies with In Flames, so you know what to expect. light the torch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGp8kQcsWEU&feature=fvst) (HQ) gets a lot of points for an awesome music video.
Equilibrium - more melodeathish stuff - in German, still epic. blut im auge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yom8nNqmxvQ) explains why I love them. This album really gives me a pirate feeling. Heh.
That's the best ones right now. Check out Ho-chi-Ming as well, they are sweeet.
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Basically dude I think your first port of call should be a little town called Gothenburg.
Also, this.
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Khar, i know about WoY but didn't really see any point mentioning them; I'd agree that they're terrible though. Also, Where no Life Dwells is a pretty accessible dm album; it's a bit cavernous maybe, but not super fast or anything. It was one of my first DM albums; I reckon it's the sort of thing that even the most casual metal fan can get into (not that that's an insult, it's a rad album). On another note, I notice you didn't mention any thrash- you don't care for it or something? Just curious, is all; I prefer it a fair bit over death metal myself.
random mindless elitist drivel
Honestly, what is so wrong with being elitist? I listen to a pretty huge variety of music (check my last.fm; username's caspiannnnn) but I feel no need to compromise as to what I like and what I don't like, and I tell it like I see it. There's nothing wrong with that. It seems that when people call someone "elitist", they tend to mean "people who have opinions about music that aren't always positive".
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Try Corrosion of Conformity (from Blind onward, at least. Haven't heard their earlier stuff, it is impossible to find),
I'll go ahead and up Technocracy and Animosity in the mediaf!re thread. For the record, I thought listening to Blind was theoretically about as fun as sucking on the ass of roadkill, but liked everything previous to that. That stuff is certainly one of the finest examples of 80s crossover out there.
Edited to add: The whole genre, in my opinion, is a little whack, but I can't deny that COC is one of the best examples of it. They're up in mediafire if you want to check them out.
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Don't listen to Snalin, early In Flames was better. That's when their songwriting actually went places and wasn't derivative. Most of Jasper's creativity petered out during Colony. To be honest, though, it kind of depends on how deathy you like your metal. If you ask me, there is a lot more raw energy and harmony behind their earlier work. I tried to tailor my list to things the OP might like, and he said he didn't mind death metal, so I leaned in that direction. He'd probably really like Reroute To Remain.
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Here's a few.
Impaled Nazarene = Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DgrK8IMm2I)
Cradle of Filth = Black/Melodic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wokDxDt504g)
Finntroll = Folk? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk&feature=fvst)
Mokoma = Speed/Trash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEM41srbrWY)
The Kovenant = Industrial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agby2MgmLx8&feature=related)
Ruoska = Industrial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV19mYe3184&feature=related)
The 69 Eyes = Goth? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyF_Lgdzv9E)
Sentenced = Goth/Death/Heavy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLhAxbUecw&feature=fvst)
Enjoy.
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Sentenced = Goth/Death/Heavy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLhAxbUecw&feature=fvst)
Enjoy.
Their cold white light album is pretty enjoyable. It's sort of a suicidal version of the Black Album; polished, accessible, quite awesome. Definitely worth checking out.
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Trying to give someone a recommendation of Cradle Of Filth via a Sisters of Mercy cover may not be the best way to go.
Might I suggest Lord Abortion?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbGCA-YtmmU
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Trying to give someone a recommendation of Cradle Of Filth via a Sisters of Mercy cover may not be the best way to go.
Meh. It's a good song.
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The original is better. Plus, it's not all that indicative of CoF's music.
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You are right about that. I have all the Cradle albums from Principle to Nymph. Though their newer stuff is crappier after Damnation. (Propably the reason I stopped buyin their albums.)
Back to topic: Kyprian's Circle = Really old black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFcqXJHHue8)
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On another note, I notice you didn't mention any thrash- you don't care for it or something? Just curious, is all; I prefer it a fair bit over death metal myself.
I didn't mention any black or doom either. The dude gave a fairly good inidication of what he likes, nothing of whih really indicates his tastes draw him towards thrash atm. Several of my suggestions lead fairly obviously more toards thrash though, just as some begin to bridge out towards black, doom and folk.
Also, the 69 Eyes aren't metal. Maybe on one album (though even then debatable), but not the album you posted. They come from the same slick production/overdriven guitar school of 90's goth rock as Nosferatu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idx0GqLlsrE), London After Midnight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNvPzq9Y1I), Inkubus Sukkubus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ7JyfEuNFE) etc. which is more a logical outgrowth of old death rock bands like .45 Grave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1dn1XKMR3s&feature=related) and Southern Death Cult (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6JnHPV1JC4&feature=related) via proto-industrial rock acts like Alien Sex Fiend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLwLTzGUg) than it is anything to do with metal. Compare early Type O Negative (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHGCq3lc1yA) material to observe the crucial differences.
Also, if we're going to be chucking about Cradle of Filth tracks, there's only one we should be really talking about.
Seduction, my obsessive art
A pantheon of tragedies inscribed upon the stars
Like thistled ruin, garbed around thy heart
Bacchanal Cinderella, desirious midnight passed
Leaving thee as sacrifice asleep within my arms
'Midst dreams of robed redemption versed in sexual aftermath
When we ebb as tides together, carnal souls entwined
And orgasms expire, come puppet wires and the....BLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6ndD68NNQ)
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Meh, i am total oldschool ^^.
Things in my shelf:
Gamma Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u14doIBp-Xc)
Kreator (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7xBj0bDD8)
Helloween (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOAl0enE7kI)
Running Wild (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjTN4Av7qgE)
Tankart (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNg4aFJs1cw)
Sodom (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-qBctWpH0)
Megadeth (Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6psE7l7rk)
and many more... U.D.O, Doro Pesch, Napalm Death and such...
Btw... if you want some "Input", check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacken_Open_Air . Wikipedia lists the Bandlineup of the Festival :-D - and all i can say: If you are ever going to Germany in early August... go Wacken Open Air. 70.000 Metalheads, 10+ Stages and Beer, Beer, Beer ;o).
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Wait, what? Wacken has four stages. The True Stage, The Black Stage, the Party Stage and the Tent. Like, the whole graphic design of all their merchandise is even based around this (like how you can buy the blue True Stage shirts, the red Black Stage shirts or the green Party Stage shirts).
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:-D Yup. 4 BIG Stages. And more or less official/inoffical sidestages. Smaller bands playing some kind of private. And there is this year the extra ground for the mediaval market / Larp Parp / Wiking Park where smaller mediaval / nordic folk bands will play.
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Wait, what sidestages? You mean shit like Metal Batman playing in the campgrounds?
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Kreator
Oh, and
Death
Cynic
Atheist
Gorguts
Edge of Sanity
Peste Noire
Saint Vitus
Candlemass
Dismember
Enslaved
Celtic Frost
Dark Angel
Hellhammer
Exodus
Darkthrone
Destruction
Martyr
Illogicist
Shout out to all you Agalloch fans, if you like them you will like Enslaved's later stuff, particularly Below The Lights.
For extra credit, check out:
Amaseffer
Aghora
Belketre
Bone Awl
Burning Witch
Cauldron Black Ram
Church of Misery
Cirith Ungol
Cryptopsy
Deathspell Omega
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Diabolical Masquerade
Entombed
Fates Warning
Gallhammer
Ghremdrakk
Goatsnake
Grand Magus
Heathen (the thrash metal band)
Hypocrisy
Langsuyr
Minotauri
Morbid Angel
Morbid Saint
Nachtmystium
Neath
And I'm getting tired of listing bands, that's enough for now.
Edit: might wanna listen to most of these only after you've listened to Khar's recommendations earlier and gotten a taste for metal. Those are all decent bands, but imo, more like starter groups.
www.metal-archives.com (http://www.metal-archives.com) is a great source for all things metal.
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the red Black Stage shirts
The fuck?
If you do go on metal archives, don't let them disliking it throw you off, they have more than their fair share of pretentious pricks there, and I have really enjoyed some stuff that gets poor marks for not being troo enough.
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the red Black Stage shirts
The fuck?
Not too hard to understand.
(http://tshirtslayer.com/files-tshirt/imagecache/shirtview/6+january+2009+051.jpg)
The black stage shirts etc. have artwork predominated by the colour red, true stage with the colour blue, party stage with the colour green.
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Wasn't what I meant, it just seemed odd that the black stage would be represented by red shirts. it was more of an incredulous the fuck than a confused the fuck. Now I see that it is just red on black, which makes more sense.
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Oh right I see.
Nah, pretty much all the shirts are black. This is Wacken we're talking about. Even the condoms are black at Wacken.
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The better to check for rips with.
All right, whose idea was it to have Coheed and Cambria at Wacken this year? Seriously, someone needs an unintentional visit to the mosh pit.
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I dunno. I do know that this is the third time they were supposed to have Bullet for my Valentine, but it will be the first time they actually show up, if they do.
Then again, it's not actually a bad thing for there to be shitty bands like Airbourne and Bring Me The Horizon at Wacken. Bands on the Party Stage and Black Stage play simultaneously, and tent bands play over all the other bands, so you'd end up missing too much good music. For example this year I am probably going to have to miss Turisas to catch both Saxon and Korpiklaani, though I've seen all three before so I'll probably base it on how I feel. Got to admit that the lineup is rather bizarre this year though. The UK Subs?
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Nodes of Ranvier
Their self-titled album, I strongly recommend. Their other albums I will not say anything about since I haven't listened to those yet. But this was what got me into metal when I was strongly into hiphop at the time.
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There is still not enough Opeth in this thread.
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The better to check for rips with.
All right, whose idea was it to have Coheed and Cambria at Wacken this year? Seriously, someone needs an unintentional visit to the mosh pit.
Probably the same who thought it would be a good idea to have mediaval, viking and fantasy playgrounds with small stages for unknown or little known bands . Seriously, i love the middle ages, i am into reenactment and full contact sword fight in armour. I love Larping, and i love metal. But NEVER EVER i will mix that up. I will not attent mediaval meetings with Fantasy Costumes, nor bring a real metal sword to a Larp. And i would NEVER ever walk around on a metal open air either in my reenactment costume nor in a fantasy costume. Never mix it.
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i didnt read all of this thread... (basically the part where people started bitching... after that i jumped to the end.)
but Gates Of Winter-Lux Aeterna is really fucking neat.
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Kreator
Oh, and
Death
Cynic
Atheist
Gorguts
Edge of Sanity
Peste Noire
Saint Vitus
Candlemass
Dismember
Enslaved
Celtic Frost
Dark Angel
Hellhammer
Exodus
Darkthrone
Destruction
Martyr
Illogicist
Shout out to all you Agalloch fans, if you like them you will like Enslaved's later stuff, particularly Below The Lights.
For extra credit, check out:
Amaseffer
Aghora
Belketre
Bone Awl
Burning Witch
Cauldron Black Ram
Church of Misery
Cirith Ungol
Cryptopsy
Deathspell Omega
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Diabolical Masquerade
Entombed
Fates Warning
Gallhammer
Ghremdrakk
Goatsnake
Grand Magus
Heathen (the thrash metal band)
Hypocrisy
Langsuyr
Minotauri
Morbid Angel
Morbid Saint
Nachtmystium
Neath
And I'm getting tired of listing bands, that's enough for now.
Edit: might wanna listen to most of these only after you've listened to Khar's recommendations earlier and gotten a taste for metal. Those are all decent bands, but imo, more like starter groups.
www.metal-archives.com (http://www.metal-archives.com) is a great source for all things metal.
damn, thats a pretty hefty library of music! Looks like i got a ton of freakin' homework!
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I'm pleased to see that there's fans of actual metal here. A lot of what I'd rec has already been mentioned here, so I'll just post my mid-year top 10 metal albums.
1) Heaven and Hell - The Devil You Know (awesome trad. heavy metal with a hint of doom)
2) Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Agorapocalypse (insane death/grind)
3) Asphyx - Death...The Brutal Way (rifftastic OSDM)
4) Fen - The Malediction Fields (atmospheric black metal)
5) Candlemass - Death Magic Doom (doom metal)
6) Jungle Rot - What Horrors Await (no-frills catchy death metal)
7) Gorod - Process of a New Decline (melodic/tech death)
8) Suffocation - Blood Oath (tech/brutal death)
9) Destroyer 666 - Defiance (blackened thrash, totally awesome)
10) Augury - Fragmentary Evidence (tech death) or Anaal Nathrakh - In The Constellation Of the Black Widow (insane death/grind/a bunch of shit), can't decide.
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Asphyx is really good, I don't think I included them in my original post. Destroyer 666 is really awesome too.
If you like Destroyer 666, check out "Gospel Of The Horns", D666's drummer played on their first EP or album I think.
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21 Lucifers
Absu
Anaal Nathrakh- "In The Constellation of The Black Widow"
Angelcorpse
Blood Red Throne
Bloodbath
Burst
Dawn
Dawnbringer
Decapitated
Dimension Zero
Disarmonia Mundi
Enslaved
Eternal Tears Of Sorrow
Eyes Of Fire
Fleshcrawl
Heaven Shall Burn
Infestdead
Katatonia
Omnium Gatherum
Pyorrhoea
Rotting Christ
Swallow The Sun
Vehemence
Without Grief
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Did Augury's new album leak already? I thought it wasn't due until July...
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^yes it did
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There is still not enough ***** in this thread.
Yes. There was. Too much, even.
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beopuppy, let's be friends
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Windir!
Electric Wizard!
Sabaton!
(apart from the latest album, that was shit)
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the Pax Cecilia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkPwyb3KNM&feature=related) - if Opeth wasn't so wanky, this is what they'd sound like. You'd probably like Opeth, too.
Do these guys usually get brought up in metal discussion? I mean their second album I guess gets pretty metal but their first is basically textbook screamo.
Also Aggaloch bland? Really? Eh I guess you can have yr own opinion.
Can't really see the Pax as a "metal" band, but glad to see those dudes getting more love here. I haven't talked to them in at least a year now, but I still consider those guys to be some of my very good friends.
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Another thing - just check out Nuclear Blast's youtube page. There's a lot of good bands signed to them, and some not so good ones too, but it's still worth checking out. Most of the Göteborg bands that's still kicking has signed up to them, and they've got a good mix of more and less melodic death bands, and some power metal bands as well (think Nightwish), if that's your cup of tea.
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oh, nuclear blast... how do i tell them that Unsun is like shooting nightwish, and the entire female fronted metal genre... in the face.
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oh, nuclear blast... how do i tell them that Unsun is like shooting nightwish, and the entire female fronted metal genre... in the face.
Call them. +49 716 292 800. Or FAX: +49 716 224 554
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oh, nuclear blast... how do i tell them that Unsun is like shooting nightwish, and the entire female fronted metal genre... in the face.
But wasn't that LONG overdue anyway?
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Since when did symphonic/power metal have special artistic integrity? I thought it was supposed to be like the cheesy pop of metal that everyone has a special guilty pleasure from.
I just don't understand how you could destroy something that never took itself seriously in the first place. It's like all of those rabid fangirls that had a fit when Nightwish changed singers. It's not like they were playing really high brow music in the first place people.
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HEY! there's a lot of.... well... :oops:... fuck you then!
nah, i think all of your responses are great, i love hearing the members of this boards opinions on this stuff. it's like The Gauntlet, only you're not psychotic thrash-heads with no real ability to think objectively. you're actually pretty balanced taste wise.
though, there's a lot of good shit in symphonic/femme/power/WTF metal... and not only is it good. but its actually approachable. and it kills me that something this listenable/radio friendly gets no play in the US. i would take Unsun over Hollywood undead any day of the week.
that being said, sexism in serious(ish) music sucks ass, if ladies wanna jam, and they kick ass at it. why not give them a listen?
and so much of what I've come to learn is "high brow" music is shit, who care's how weird it is, or hard to play... if it just doesn't sound good?
and as for nightwish... I dont mind a listen, but the only real draw for me was Tarja's bomb ass vocals, and now that she's happily entered the "Pop" market. i feel a whole lot more honest listening to her solo stuff!
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You misunderstand, I think. I like Nightwish, but I don't have any illusions about them. I like the later stuff more because it's more honest, they are a pop-metal band. That's what most power metal is. But I don't care, I'm not about to say something is worse or better just because it's clean and friendly.
Also, it's nice to see girls who are fans of metal, it's nice to see anyone who is a fan of metal.
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oh, nuclear blast... how do i tell them that Unsun is like shooting nightwish, and the entire female fronted metal genre... in the face.
Call them. +49 716 292 800. Or FAX: +49 716 224 554
Oh, you Germans and your crazy eleven-digit phone numbers.
What does it say about me that I was trying to figure out what the numbers were supposed to be for a good twenty seconds, before I remembered Llewellian isn't from the US?
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beopuppy, let's be friends
Depends ... do you like piña coladas and getting caught in the rain?
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Fuck eeah Augury's new aoslu bm i sicuk!
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You misunderstand, I think. I like Nightwish, but I don't have any illusions about them. I like the later stuff more because it's more honest, they are a pop-metal band. That's what most power metal is. But I don't care, I'm not about to say something is worse or better just because it's clean and friendly.
Also, it's nice to see girls who are fans of metal, it's nice to see anyone who is a fan of metal.
I think I need to change my avatar... because that may be... the second or third time I've been mistaken for a girl...
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Well, if it helps, I didn't make a gender judgment on you. I was just agreeing with you about the whole chicks can be just as metal as dudes thing.
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Power metal kinda seems like pop metal until Persuader.
Seriously, power metal can be as brutal as anything given the right elements. I mean, Blind Guardian are more extreme than a fair chunk of thrash metal bands, for instance.
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A capella metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGQiGEYl4Y) is the best metal.
WEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DUM DUM
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Well, if it helps, I didn't make a gender judgment on you. I was just agreeing with you about the whole chicks can be just as metal as dudes thing.
actually it really helps! :-D
and as far as chicks being really metal, I do so enjoy Maria Brink (In This Moment).... though that Arch Enemy chick is so BROOTAL i feel like she's castrating me every time i listen.. :-o.
and as far as brootality in poppy metal. my buddy and I watched Inis Mona by Eluveitie.... we were simultaneously really impressed, and laughing our asses off. :roll:
(largely by the brootality of the bagpipe players face... but also by the hirdy girdy... that is not an attractive instrument...)
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SuidAkrA:
Folk/black/melodic death metal with or without bagpipes.
Each of these variables changes depending on the album you listen to.
They are really great.
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I think I need to change my avatar... because that may be... the second or third time I've been mistaken for a girl...
Might not be the avatar. Happens to me with annoying regularity. And your screen name being easily read as edwina probably doesn't help.
So, my brother has asked for dragonforce CDs for his birthday. ...At least it means he probably won't be listening to Creed nearly as much.
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hey, physically speaking they're really talented... so talented they sound like a cheap synth soundtrack for an early 90's movie that didnt know the 80's was over...
and, yes i have a specific movie in mind.
I just have no memory of its name... :?
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Just get him the one Dragonforce album and then you'll never need to buy him another one
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If you really want to save money just get an old copy of Powerslave and up the tempo by about 30%
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The rhyme of the ancient mariner won't be as long at least.
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hey, physically speaking they're really talented... so talented they sound like a cheap synth soundtrack for an early 90's movie that didnt know the 80's was over...
I've heard they suck live, though. How many takes do you think it took for them to get it right?
He liked Somewhere In Time when I had him listen to it, but now he can't remember it.
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A capella metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGQiGEYl4Y) is the best metal.
WEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DEEDLEY DUM DUM
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That is hilarious, but impressive that they take themselves so seriously.
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Their cover of Battery is just them singing the word 'battery' over and over again.
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hey, physically speaking they're really talented... so talented they sound like a cheap synth soundtrack for an early 90's movie that didnt know the 80's was over...
I've heard they suck live, though. How many takes do you think it took for them to get it right?
He liked Somewhere In Time when I had him listen to it, but now he can't remember it.
hey. the Haunting (somewhere in time) by Kamelot is freakin awesome pop metal! i really like that one!
dragonforce... bores me quickly
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Wrong Somewhere in Time. I was talking about the Iron Maiden album. You know, Wasted Years, Heaven Can Wait?
Oh, I think I've found the best Van Canto song. Other bands play, Van Canto makes funny noises! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3LghdBWxc)
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I knew which one you meant... i just really like the Kamelot one!
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[snip]....that being said, sexism in serious(ish) music sucks ass, if ladies wanna jam, and they kick ass at it. why not give them a listen?
and so much of what I've come to learn is "high brow" music is shit, who care's how weird it is, or hard to play... if it just doesn't sound good?
Well Edwinalink, i bet i know at least one female metal singer that got played up and down in the US Radio stations. But that was back in the 80thies. Remember Doro Pesh from Warlock?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQy0lliCNqE
And i bet she will be played again. Currently she sings together with a lot of other artists, trying out stuff. Like mixing "classic" and "metal", or singing love ballads together with Lemmy Killminster (Motörhead) or Accept Frontman Udo Dirkschneider... she is really one of those artists who just can do whatever the f.... she wants. Like doing that "Metal Lullaby Craddle songs for kids" CD... Just like AC/DC or Metallica..
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CBSTNPEAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
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If you really want to save money just get an old copy of Powerslave and up the tempo by about 30%
Conversely, if you're even looking for some good doom metal and are unsure of where to look, get an old copy of Powerslave and reduce the tempo by 50%.
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[snip]....that being said, sexism in serious(ish) music sucks ass, if ladies wanna jam, and they kick ass at it. why not give them a listen?
and so much of what I've come to learn is "high brow" music is shit, who care's how weird it is, or hard to play... if it just doesn't sound good?
Well Edwinalink, i bet i know at least one female metal singer that got played up and down in the US Radio stations. But that was back in the 80thies. Remember Doro Pesh from Warlock?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQy0lliCNqE
And i bet she will be played again. Currently she sings together with a lot of other artists, trying out stuff. Like mixing "classic" and "metal", or singing love ballads together with Lemmy Killminster (Motörhead) or Accept Frontman Udo Dirkschneider... she is really one of those artists who just can do whatever the f.... she wants. Like doing that "Metal Lullaby Craddle songs for kids" CD... Just like AC/DC or Metallica..
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41CBSTNPEAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
that is the first time in my life I have ever heard her, or warlock... I think the fact they share the name with a shitty guitar may have something to do with that...
what is really annoying is that I'm finally hearing female fronted metal in Utah and its from this shittty ass band called ...halestorm...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j_yY8TElJI
and Lacuna coils REALLY shitty new album...this is why i refuse to listen to the radio... its survival of the most repetitve, stupid Drek...
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Great commets from all of you guys. I could write a huge list but that would be too much work so I will write it in parts since I also want to write more than just a list, because names are useless if you don't write about the band.
- !T.O.O.H.! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCUP8aNgpmo)... A very very talented band that plays technical grindcore. It's in-fucking-sane and so are the vocals. such a sad fact thet this dudes are history since the label just fired them. The song I put is amazing great chorus and a delicious solo at the end... The drums are also a highlight since they are very very exact, never missing a single beat and also very technical too. Damn... I asure you guys, the last solo is an orgasm to me, almost beautiful and that's rare in grindcore.
- Acid Bath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjBwxXmNY0Q) Along with Eyehategod this dudes from Louisiana are pretty much the big pioneers of what sludge/Doom stand for. A really crushing and also catchy as hell music. Those bluesy riffs are sexy. and also beautiful ballads but with very disturbed lyrics right here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgUjf3Hh1s) The voice of that guy is amazing... almost hipnotic. [I hope I wrote that word right]
- Ahab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A70bvIbTivE) Funeral Doom Metal with a very original touch, this dudes sing about the ocean and most important: Moby Dick, yeah.... Moby Dick, At first that concept sounded weird to me, but when you hear this song you will HEAR the ocean, the wind and the huge motherfucker whale that is going to crush you. Hear this at night with no light. It's pretty damn scary at times, but beautiful.
- Akercocke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWEvDS0UNsk) Progressive Black/Death, think about Opeth getting more Black and with more groove growls that are harder to understand... and also more jazzy. The voice of that dude is amazing. and the combination of acustic guitarrs and blast beats is brilliant.
- Alcest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_cqIFqyET4) It's difficult to say that this is metal. A better explanation would be Post-rock/shoegaze and with a little touch of Black Metal. a really beautiful band with breathtaking vocals and perfect for the summer :-)
- Amesoeurs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkS1NtjSQ7A&feature=PlayList&p=8E947EE2244FE3B7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1) Shoegaze/Black Metal baby!!! This is another project from the dude from Alcest but this time is a girl who is the vocalist and I think she's amazing. And if you don't believe just check this so-to-speak ballad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypn6cJhshxc&feature=PlayList&p=8E947EE2244FE3B7&index=2) What a "warm" voice
- Anathema (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7updC6lHt4) It's really difficult to sum up this band in just a few songs because there's too much to say. One of the big ones from the first Doom/Death scene from the beginning of the 90's. out of nowhere they decided to change the genre and being more and more rock. The evolution is quite interesting since there's a lot of stuff for everybody, for the ones that like aggressive music and also for the ones who enjoy beautiful music. See : first (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMRlJ9oiOEw), Second (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16Vm9yb3hZ8), Third (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSdTjKfOlqA) and last (http://) Their music always changes a little bit at times rock, then more ambient... just one thing is clear, the music is always quite depressive... but good stuff. The last song... the guy's voice on that one is the epitome of "hopeless"
I'm done with the A, I hope you guys will like it... If there's something that makes me happy is to share my music with those who want to discover and not just because they're bored
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I am SOOO happy to have known about acid bath since the late 90's... I am a fan of all things dax riggs. even though most everything since Acid bath has been of a noticably lighter variety...
and Ahab.... OH.... the ass-kicking power of their Nautical Doom... :-D
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I am SOOO happy to have known about acid bath since the late 90's... I am a fan of all things dax riggs. even though most everything since Acid bath has been of a noticably lighter variety...
and Ahab.... OH.... the ass-kicking power of their Nautical Doom... :-D
O, I was just too young to get to know them back in the 90's and I never heard anything of them... Probably they weren't known where I lived. :-(
I discovered them for some 3 years ago maybe... And I turned into a fan very fast since everything was perfect for me, the lyrics and the music... I felt so lucky to buy both cds. The debut would be my favorite though.
But yeah Dax Riggs is the man his voice is amazing and the lyrics he wrote.... Damn. Scream Of The Butterfly, Bones Of Baby Dolls, New Death Sensation and Dead Girl most be the best ballads I've ever heard... So twisted
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what no one knows is his body of work since then! like agents of oblivion and deadboy & the elephant men... and all his solo stuff...
well, its all right there! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dax_Riggs
and I would have to thank my odd neighbors for them, since they aren't exactly popular in utah either!
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what no one knows is his body of work since then! like agents of oblivion and deadboy & the elephant men... and all his solo stuff...
well, its all right there! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dax_Riggs
and I would have to thank my odd neighbors for them, since they aren't exactly popular in utah either!
Jejeje, well I think it's a matter of "search what you want" because I did know about his works at the same time as I listened to Acid Bath.... I give more atention to Acid Bath, that's true, because [at least for me] it's easy to find their cds.
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also. Acid bath is the best thing he's ever done! LOL!
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also. Acid bath is the best thing he's ever done! LOL!
True... Although Angels Of Oblivion is pretty good... It's like just an entire cd of ballands a la Scream Of The Butterfly and that's awesome in my book :)
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Cynic is my first recommendation. Prog/jazz/fusion/death metal greatness. I can't wait for the day they have over an hour of recorded material.
Opeth is my second. Since you like death metal as well as melodic metal, this should be right up your alley. Start with Blackwater Park.
Amorphis. Start with Eclipse and be amazed.
That's all I really have, actually. I'm not too too into the modern metal scene, and what I do listen to always has those smatterings of prog in it. The rest of it is old-school metal. Maiden/Sabbath/Zepp/Purple/Old Metallica/Ozzy
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also. Acid bath is the best thing he's ever done! LOL!
True... Although Angels Of Oblivion is pretty good... It's like just an entire cd of ballands a la Scream Of The Butterfly and that's awesome in my book :)
I think you mean Agents... and yes... that CD gets more play right now that my acid bath does... (well, I havent had it as long!)
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That's all I really have, actually. I'm not too too into the modern metal scene
That's a sad fact tbh.... The metal scene is getting better just like wine. One have to just search properly.
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That's all I really have, actually. I'm not too too into the modern metal scene
That's a sad fact tbh.... The metal scene is getting better just like wine. One have to just search properly.
Yeah, I see that, its just that what metal I do listen to has to be pretty in-fucking-credible to get my full attention, and I haven't found much of that in modern metal.
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... so you listen to Opeth in stead?
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Yeah, I see that, its just that what metal I do listen to has to be pretty in-fucking-credible to get my full attention, and I haven't found much of that in modern metal.
Mmmm... I undertstand, If you want I can always give you some recommendations, I will glady write abotu more bands like I did a while ago.
What kind of metal are you into?
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That's all I really have, actually. I'm not too too into the modern metal scene, and what I do listen to always has those smatterings of prog in it.
Have you tried prog black?
Arcturus - Alone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Y7PyL1E8E)
Blut Aus Nord - Procession of the Dead Clowns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKsYnHPX6Ns)
Borknagar - The Genuine Pulse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7E9aEB7w30)
Diabolical Masquerade - Rider on the Bonez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZUMwpllYY)
Sigh - Requiem/Nostalgia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqkhVlWAi90)
Solefald - Mont Blanc Providence Crow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZUMwpllYY)
Ulver - A Song of Liberty, Plates 25-27 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGefg8F9uKs&feature=PlayList&p=5B5280301BCF0962&index=12)
Vintersorg - A Dialogue With the Stars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI_8aMOqANg&feature=related)
Vulture Industries - Soulcage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiSG7L68TQ&feature=related)
Also though it doesn't really fit in I can't resist
G.U.T. - Transylvanian Hunger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7gZ7owvmas)
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... so you listen to Opeth in stead?
So I take as you don't like them very much, uh? :lol:
I never understood that tbh. I don't understand what's the whole fuzz about them [yeah, they are one of my favorite bands but right now I can think baout 10 bands that are better]. But I also don't undertand why there are so many Opeth-haters jajajaja since there are worse bands in front of our noses.
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I'd just like to say I've fully enjoyed this thread & it has cemented my feeling that this is the best place to discuss music. I post on a number of metal forums & they are all so petty & terrible!
I would like to add though, the best place to start when listening to metal is, Black Sabbbath. I would also like to add Pig Destroyer, Napalm Death & Carcass, but that's just the kind of stuff I listen to. Also for some British bands: Charger, Mistress, Narcosis Gruel.
Seriously lovely thread.
(Considering it's about nasty music)
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I'd just like to say I've fully enjoyed this thread & it has cemented my feeling that this is the best place to discuss music. I post on a number of metal forums & they are all so petty & terrible!
Seriously lovely thread.
Man.... Pig Destroyer and Napalm Death are THE shit. They almost ruined Grindcore for me because I can't find something better.
And dude, there is a nice metal forum I really really recommend. I understand that there are some shitty places like Metal Archives [I just use that one for some info] BUT I really think a place with nice people, good written reviews and just a nice place in general for discussing about serious stuff, music, as well as funny stuff and also with a great and open-minded staff is Metal Storm (http://metalstorm.ee/home/index.php). I hope that in case you don't know about the site.. You could chek it out because it's a well done website and the people in general is very kind. Everytime I'm discussing with a friend that says that most of Metalheads are too agressive and narrow-minded... I tell them about this website. They also have some albums that are not metal but reviewed anyway :)
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... so you listen to Opeth in stead?
So I take as you don't like them very much, uh? :lol:
I never understood that tbh. I don't understand what's the whole fuzz about them [yeah, they are one of my favorite bands but right now I can think baout 10 bands that are better]. But I also don't undertand why there are so many Opeth-haters jajajaja since there are worse bands in front of our noses.
Well, Opeth just annoys me. First, I find the music and the creators thereof just pretentious. Second, I find die-hard Opeth addicts equally pretentious. I've tried their music on several occassions, mainly because this forum assures me, ever so often, that it's good. And every time I just come away with the feeling that I've been listening to someone's wanking on about their magnificent ideas in stead of an actual song or two.
But, to be honest, I have that with loads of music that gets praised into high heaven on this board. Let's just say that I have decided that the musical choices of this board and mine are not the same and will never be.
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Well, Opeth just annoys me. First, I find the music and the creators thereof just pretentious. Second, I find die-hard Opeth addicts equally pretentious. I've tried their music on several occassions, mainly because this forum assures me, ever so often, that it's good. And every time I just come away with the feeling that I've been listening to someone's wanking on about their magnificent ideas in stead of an actual song or two.
But, to be honest, I have that with loads of music that gets praised into high heaven on this board. Let's just say that I have decided that the musical choices of this board and mine are not the same and will never be.
Pretty much EVERY fan-boy of no matter what band is an asshole. So that doesn't really tells me something and I'm not the one to judge but I think that fan-boys and haters are pretty much in the same level. Opeth is pretentious and that's a fact but I think we both know there are far worse bands that takes themselves too seriously. I'm not a great fan of technical music because I view it as great music without any sort of feeling [Dream Theater is boring as hell if you ask me].
Soooo hey, man... what do you like of metal?
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Opeth suffer from that annoying condition that affects many prog and avant-garde metal bands, in that they have obsessive fans who carp on and on and on about how amazing they are*. They are currently the biggest of these bands, having overtaken Dream Theater about two years ago, and thus you are likely, moving in metal circles, to constantly encounter people who wish to explain to you HOW FUCKING AWESOME Opeth are, when you've been listening to Opeth for about a decade. Add to this that Opeth have 'sold out', as it were, achieving huge commercial success (Watershed cracked the top 40 album charts in the US) whilst making changes in their sound that have alienated a lot of old-school fans who got into them during their first five albums, and you have most of the explanation. Exacerbating this is the fact that Opeth aren't really exceptional in any way: some of the early albums are very good, but they aren't the greatest thing ever. Also, something that sticks in my craw, which is by no means a common thing (but it should be) is people wanking on about how original Opeth are, when they are, essentially, a poor mans Edge of Sanity.
Edge of Sanity - Enigma: The Blessing/Celestial Dissension/The Loss of Hallowed Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_k3_5z8agc)
Edge of Sanity - Elegy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZT8bXAt48)
Edge of Sanity - Blood Coloured (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJOpQOWPmk&feature=related)
Edge of Sanity - Of Darksome Origin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp0_KzMNWG8)
Edge of Sanity - Twilight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP4Lhe6E7YY&feature=related)
I'll just stop there before I link the whole of Purgatory Afterglow.
*See also: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr. Bungle, Dan Swano, Arjen Lucassen, Diablo Swing Orchestra, Devin Townsend, etc. etc. That said Dan Swano really is SO FUCKING AWESOME GUYZZ.
EDIT: Fuck, four replies while writing this! Shouldn't have spent so much time listening to delicious Edge of Sanity.
Everyone shut up and start listening to the awesome music I am linking for your predilection.
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Diablo Swing Orchestra,
D.S.O is such a crazy band jajajaja The debut is brilliant I remember when I first listened to the first song and my jaw just fall down when the trumpet came aout of nowhere.
Have you heard the new song that they put on their Myspace? I have huge expectatives about that album.
Btw... I fail to see big similarities between Edge Of Sanity and Opeth. The again I completely agree, I find Opeth's music good, but not half as original as people use to say.
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Fanboys are assholes, but we've all been there. I just hate bands who can't play songs and just wank. That's my whole philosophy. What constitutes 'wank' changes from day to day, though.
Things I like.
Old Skyclad, to wit: WITH Walkyier, because there is no one who can turn vinnegar-pissing into such sweetly barked poetry.
Cradle Of Filth, though, of late, their albums seem to have lost a bit of quality ...
Kampfar.
Iskald.
Haggard.
Some gothy stuff.
Eluveitie.
Amon Amarth.
God, what's it called ... gets mentioned elsewhere ... Oh well, they made, Fas, Ite, Maledicti, In Ignam Eternam.
Stuff like that.
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Deathspell Omega?
Also, we totally haven't had a classic 'Clad love-in on these forums for a while. You wanna go first?
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God, what's it called ... gets mentioned elsewhere ... Oh well, they made, Fas, Ite, Maledicti, In Ignam Eternam.
Stuff like that.
Man... You can't go wrong with Deathspell Omega imo. I bought Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice and that's some seriosly good Black Metal. Among the best in the so called Orthodox Black Metal movement that has been quite popular at the moment. If you liked that band I recommend Ondskapt and Funeral Mist, both from Sweden. Funeral Mist is more abrassive though. But damn that kind of black is powerful. I also recommend the latest Marduk. I don't really like Marduk but ROM 5:12 experimented a lot with the orthodox movement and they did a great album [finaly]
Cradle Of Filth is nice enough... But I can only stand the first 3 albums...brilliant ones indeed, but all after that went downhill for me. Bathory Aria is a gem.
At the moment I'm more into Black, Doom and Grindcore.... Especially Doom and Black metal and all their subgenres.
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I just can't get into doom. Mostly to do with the 'vocals'. They're just abrassive ... something like ackercock (Spelling might be off) is just ... meh.
Really? CoF only the first three? I consider Midian their best album ...
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I just can't get into doom. Mostly to do with the 'vocals'. They're just abrassive ... something like ackercock (Spelling might be off) is just ... meh.
Sorry to hear that. Doom is probably my favorite genre EVER. because you can't cheat with Doom Metal. Because it's not about the music and go technical, it's about the feelings and atmospheres. And that's something you have or not and there's not a grey zone. I think it's the hardest to play among the metal genres.
Another thing I like about doom. Its the fact that there are a huge amount of subgenres so there's place for almost everybody. But yeah... Doom is a hard pill to swallow in every case... Except Traditional doom that it's pretty easy to digest. A genre heavily influeced by Black Sabbath [I Think Black Sabbath did more doom that heavy metal tbh]
Only growls? No man... Traditional Doom Metal bands like Candlemass, Warning and the such with clean operatic vocals are great.
And I'm also I'm really glad that Metal is involving more in the Black and Doom scenes. especially the latest since bands like Esoteric with their highly psychodelic Funeral Doom are brilliant and not for the weak of mind
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Yeah, stupid of me, I own two Candlemass CD's. But lately I have issues with Doom.
However, your suggestions shall be checked out in the near future.
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Yeah, stupid of me, I own two Candlemass CD's. But lately I have issues with Doom.
However, your suggestions shall be checked out in the near future.
Any questions and I'm glad to answer :) since I do understand your problem with doom. But I learned in the hard way that growls are a important way to express your music and that they can do as much as clean vocals.
I will put more recomendations like I did in the previous page when I don't have anything else to do.
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Hey guys, after reading this thread I've come to the realization that I do not really listen to metal, and I don't think I really care to. Not because I think I'm better than the genre, or because I think my taste in music is superior; it's just that after checking out most of the bands in this thread (that I don't already listen to on my own) I've realized that I just don't really like it that much.
This helps me argue against my friends when they try to tell me that I am a metalhead.
I'd just like to say I've fully enjoyed this thread & it has cemented my feeling that this is the best place to discuss music. I post on a number of metal forums & they are all so petty & terrible!
Yeah, this is one of the few places on the internet that I actually enjoy discussing music. for the most part, it seems that everyone here listens to a wildly diverse mixture of music, but they all listen to the bands they like because they actually like them, not because some hispter rag told them it was the latest buzz. I like that in a forum.
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Talking of doom Vocalists, Aaron Stainthorpe is probably one of my favourite vocalists of all time:
My Dying Bride - The Crown of Sympathy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKv3y8m5wZ8)
And anyone who tries to argue that MDB aren't doom can just go eat a poo.
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Talking of doom Vocalists, Aaron Stainthorpe is probably one of my favourite vocalists of all time:
My Dying Bride - The Crown of Sympathy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKv3y8m5wZ8)
And anyone who tries to argue that MDB aren't doom can just go eat a poo.
Don't know where you got that one since Even the elitists that I know see MDB as Doom and you can't say no because along with Paradise Lost and Anathema they pretty much created the whole Doom/death era in the middle 90's
They are great though... But I do not enjoy the last two albums... They really need more inspiration because those ones suck really bad but everything before is great. Specially the debut.
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Well, Opeth just annoys me. First, I find the music and the creators thereof just pretentious. Second, I find die-hard Opeth addicts equally pretentious. I've tried their music on several occassions, mainly because this forum assures me, ever so often, that it's good. And every time I just come away with the feeling that I've been listening to someone's wanking on about their magnificent ideas in stead of an actual song or two.
But, to be honest, I have that with loads of music that gets praised into high heaven on this board. Let's just say that I have decided that the musical choices of this board and mine are not the same and will never be.
Pretty much EVERY fan-boy of no matter what band is an asshole. So that doesn't really tells me something and I'm not the one to judge but I think that fan-boys and haters are pretty much in the same level. Opeth is pretentious and that's a fact but I think we both know there are far worse bands that takes themselves too seriously. I'm not a great fan of technical music because I view it as great music without any sort of feeling [Dream Theater is boring as hell if you ask me].
Soooo hey, man... what do you like of metal?
I've never understood that argument, particularly when it comes to DT, though that may be my fandom talking. Just because someone plays fast doesn't mean its devoid of emotion or feeling. A good example is "Learning to Live" or "Voices" by Dream Theater. Sure they're not taking things slow and strumming out chords like Bob Dylan or going for Gilmour-esque solos, but that hardly means that they don't put any feeling into what they're playing.
While I'm on the subject, I'll recommend Dream Theater in this thread, just because. Buy Images and Words or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and be amazed.
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Opeth are not pretentious.
Would a pretentious prog-rock band make a joke about one of their album covers being a PMS commercial? Or get the crowd to sing along to "Summer of 69' " ?
I rest my case. Opeth are far better live, go see them if you have the chance, they tour like crazy.
Also, technical wankery?
Mike has repeatedly stated that he HATES bands who are all fast wank and no soul, he loves guitarists like David Gilmour, Robin Trower, and Bert Jansch.
Listen to their music! It's not technical or wanky at all!
Also, Opeth a poor man's EoS? Dan would disagree, they both started around the same time independently and are fans of each other's music.
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Man, a lot of words just got said about doom and "Electric" and "Wizard" were not ANY of them. Come on guys.
Also, on the subject of doom, I just got an album by a band called White Buzz, the album's called "Book of Whyte," and it's basically fucking great. The vocalist is definitely channeling some Al Cisneros (which is a good plan in my opinion), but there's a guitar in there, so it basically comes across as Om with more atmospherics. I'm really enjoying it.
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I've never understood that argument, particularly when it comes to DT.
I don't understand it either. I just happen to dislike almost the entire Prog Metal scene. But people ask me: Then why do you like bands like Akercocke, Necrophagist and Opeth? And I say this:
Because they aren't pure prog but a mix of prog and other styles [in those cases death]. So yeah... I dislike prog but I can enjoy it when it's mixed with other styles.
Man, a lot of words just got said about doom and "Electric" and "Wizard" were not ANY of them. Come on guys.
Jjajajjajajajaj man... here: *Gives a digital beer*
Electric Wizard are amazing. One of my favorite bands. I have almost the entire discography on my pc but just one cd for real and that one is the motherfucker Dopethrone. Although every cd is worth it imo.
Funeralopolis is the heaviest shit EVER. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO7VP34n2Ps)
"Nuclear warheads ready to strike... this world is so fucked. LET'S END IT TO NIGHT!!!!!!!"
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One of the best Sabbath inspired Doom/Stoner metal bands I've heard in recent times has been Grand Magus. Their first album is awesome, the second a little less, and then they move away from the stoner aspects to more of a Maiden inspired epic doom feel. Both aspects of this band are awesome, and the vocalist is BADASS.
I like a lot of 80s doom, Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Cirith Ungol, etc..
IMHO, the best doom metal album is Saint Vitus' "Born Too Late".
In fact, usually a general rule of thumb for metal is "If the band started in the 80s, they're a good metal band".
Unless it's glam metal or something shitty like that.
Case in point....
FATES WARNING - THE SORCERESS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzPq4RBP0jg)
This is some serious FUCKING METAL.
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They are great though... But I do not enjoy the last two albums... They really need more inspiration because those ones suck really bad but everything before is great. Specially the debut.
I haven't actually got round to the new MDB yet, but I personally thought A Line of Deathless Kings was something of a return to form. MDB's releases had been tailing off in quality for me since The Light at the End of the World, as they slowly lost the death metal elements and then the violin and piano, which I thought gave them a lot more texture as a band. I particularly liked 'The Blood, The Wine, The Roses' which I would pick as one of my top songs of 2006, and 'The Child of Eternity' off the Deeper Down EP. Unfortunately I think MDB will always suffer from my perspective from being unable to ever top Turn Loose the Swans, and everything that takes them further away from that sound is kind of a dissapointment for me. Also, I know plenty of people who will claim that MDB, Paradise Lost and Anathema are not 'real' doom bands and are scornful of people for liking them beyond maybe the obvious releases that are of most interest to doom fans. I've got to say that personally I find the work of both Paradise Lost and Anathema to get progressively less interesting as they went on and became drunk with their commercial success on the continent. I have similiar feelings about bands from related genres who have undergone a similiar pattern, such as Amorphis, Moonspell, Theatre of Tragedy etc., though I feel Amorphis have started to get back on track of late, and they were great when I saw them live a couple of years ago.
Also, I wasn't implying that Opeth ripped off Edge of Sanity, though Edge of Sanity released Unorthodox before Opeth even had a stable line-up and the influence is undeniable. I was simply saying that Edge of Sanity are better than Opeth. The main reason for this is song-writing. Opeths long track lengths more often than not seem to me to be symptomatic of an inability to write cohesive songs, and even a lot of my favourite Opeth songs could easily be reworked into two or more seperate tracks and be much improved for it. Apart from the obvious exceptions of Crimson and Crimson 2, Edge of Sanity displays none of this meandering, unfocused tendency. Both Swano and Dread Axellson can write some mean metal. I will agree that Opeth are a lot of fun live, but you must admit they do have a tendency to get lost up their own arse on occasion, not just musically (I think part of the unfocused songwriting is too much of a concentration on the song as concepts rather than, well, songs) but also lyrically, though they are hardly the worst offenders even in the melodeath field; and at least they seem fairly competent at english, unlike, say, old In Flames bizarre ramblings about 'squirrel wheels' and how 'conflict serum is my aura'.
Electric Wizard are doom of a very different beast. In my head, the whole stoner doom/sludge field of bands like Electric Wizard, Sleep, Ramesses, Bongzilla, Buried at Sea, Weedeater, Grief etc. is distinctly seperate from say, St. Vitus, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, Reverend Bizarre and Pentagram. Some sludge bands even resent being called metal at all.
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In fact, usually a general rule of thumb for metal is "If the band started in the 80s, they're a good metal band".
Naaah, I really don't care of the age and Metal has changed a lot and for the better if you ask me. Specially the extreme scene like Black, Doom and Grindcore.
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Naaah, I really don't care of the age and Metal has changed a lot and for the better if you ask me. Specially the extreme scene like Black, Doom and Grindcore.
Well, there are tons of great newer bands. But, honestly, there was a much lower ratio of shit to awesome in the 80s metal scene.
Just listen to Celtic Frost*
* Does not include the album "Cold Lake"
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Naaah, I really don't care of the age and Metal has changed a lot and for the better if you ask me. Specially the extreme scene like Black, Doom and Grindcore.
there was a much lower ratio of shit to awesome in the 80s metal scene.
Ok... Now that's a good point I can't disagree. And btw.. Celtic Frost is awesome. A sad fact that they stopped because I really wanted another album in the vein of Monotheist. They were awesome with that doom metal touch
Also, I know plenty of people who will claim that MDB, Paradise Lost and Anathema are not 'real' doom bands and are scornful of people for liking them beyond maybe the obvious releases that are of most interest to doom fans. I've got to say that personally I find the work of both Paradise Lost and Anathema to get progressively less interesting as they went on and became drunk with their commercial success on the continent. I have similiar feelings about bands from related genres who have undergone a similiar pattern, such as Amorphis, Moonspell, Theatre of Tragedy etc., though I feel Amorphis have started to get back on track of late, and they were great when I saw them live a couple of years ago.
Electric Wizard are doom of a very different beast. In my head, the whole stoner doom/sludge field of bands like Electric Wizard, Sleep, Ramesses, Bongzilla, Buried at Sea, Weedeater, Grief etc. is distinctly seperate from say, St. Vitus, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, Reverend Bizarre and Pentagram. Some sludge bands even resent being called metal at all.
Call me crazy but I fucking enjoy Assembly [one of the two techno albums Theatre of Tragedy did], it so sexy! Paradise Lost went downhill imo. But Anathema is still really good band imo.
And about Sludge... That has to do a lot with the fact that the genre itself has a lot to do with Hardcore. But is still an awesome genre. If you don't know them already, cheack out EYEHATEGOD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXDIsTPefMw) and Acid Bath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXDIsTPefMw). Both amazing bands and some kind of pioneers of the genre.
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I think it might be accurate to say that if a band started in the 80's and is still around today they are likely to be quite good, as they'll have had to have been at least somewhat competent to keep getting record deals (this condition may be waived in the case of black metal, where some labels will release 666 vinyl copies of fucking anything as long as it's got at least two K's and a V in the name and no ones ever heard of it). Bands that are derivative or don't have much creative potential rarely last beyond two or three albums, though that said, there have been some awesome flash in the pan metal bands that only put out one or two releases and then faded away or split up for whatever reason. Acid Bath, Sabbat and Waylander are three examples that instantly spring to mind, all dissapearing for different reasons (tragic ones in the case of Acid Bath, stupid ones in the case of Sabbat). Apparently Waylander still play live quite a bit in Ireland, but the second album was lackluster compared to the first. However, I just checked Waylanders wikipedia page to see when The Light, The Dark and the Endless Not was released and lo and behold they put out a new album last year without me realising. To the torrents!
Yeah, I'm a big Acid Bath fan, and listen to Eyehategod now and again. Two of my favourite sludge bands are old local Isle of Wight acts Syrafex and Overlord. Both are now pretty much defunct unfortunately, but I went to their shows literally every week for a while when they were most active, and I was pretty good friends with most of them (they shared a lot of members). Syrafex's website is still up but the download link appears to be broken unfortunately. You may still be able to buy their stuff or get it off the compilations they were on, dunno if any of it would be up on torrent. I'd whack it on mediafire if I was at my main computer. Overlords second EP is worth tracking down anyway for the last track 'Super Rocking Secret Song', which is a hilarious sludge cover of Girls Aloud's 'Sound of the Underground'.
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Yeah, I'm a big Acid Bath fan, and listen to Eyehategod now and again. Two of my favourite sludge bands are old local Isle of Wight acts Syrafex and Overlord. Both are now pretty much defunct unfortunately, but I went to their shows literally every week for a while when they were most active, and I was pretty good friends with most of them (they shared a lot of members). Syrafex's website is still up but the download link appears to be broken unfortunately. You may still be able to buy their stuff or get it off the compilations they were on, dunno if any of it would be up on torrent. I'd whack it on mediaf!re if I was at my main computer. Overlords second EP is worth tracking down anyway for the last track 'Super Rocking Secret Song', which is a hilarious sludge cover of Girls Aloud's 'Sound of the Underground'.
Je great that you like Acid Bath. I think they are among those bands who are criminaly underrated, I mean... For those who know their metal they are great... But the average metalhead don't know them and I think they deserved more attention. It's very sad that everything ended so fast. But they did a hell of two albums. The debut is still one of the best things I've ever bought. Eyehategod are a little more difficult to digest for some people. Since they are waaaaaaay sicker ajjajaja. But I preffer Acid Bath's fucked-upness AND melody ove rjust Eyehategod's fucked-upness. Although when you are in the mood. Albums like "Take as needed for pain" are a hell of abrassive.
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Just a FYI, it's considered poor form to quote a post directly above yours, unless maybe you are highlighting one specific sentence.
The real tragedy of Acid Bath is the general poor quality of everything Dax Riggs has done since. It proves the importance of a good songwriting team. It also possibly proves that, in the long term, drinking cocktails of peyote and moonshine given to you by tramps is maybe not the best source of musical inspiration.
I've never been able to decide which Acid Bath album I preferred, actually. The first album has better individual songs, but the second one holds together a lot more. It would have been interesting to see where they went, though I think Acid Bath could all too easily have been sucked into the disgusting maelstrom of grunge and nu metal had they stayed around long enough.
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He needs something to get mad at...
Although I really dig Agents of Oblivion. It's like an entire cd of songs in the vein of Acid Bath's ballads unfortunately not as good. But still is a nice work.
Hey... Guess what: No quotes.
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I do have to clarify and say that I don't hate technical stuff in music. Somebody wants to throw in some really difficult stuff ... be my guest.
My ideas of 'wank' mostly consist of bands dumping every fucking idea they have in a song thereby not writing a song but .. I don't know ... blogging. I therefore consider Opeth and Dream theatre a bit wanky. Just too stuffy without becoming songs.
So, you know ... it's not for me.
But I'm cool with technical stuff. On that note: Incureable Tragedy by Into Eternity is one of my favourite metal albums of 2009. Agree/Disagree?
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I checked their myspace and was a nice listen, thanks for that info!
Mmm 2009... I haven't seen many "OMAGA" albums when it comes to metal. 2008 was an awesome year if you ask me.
Right now the best thing I've heard from 2009 is Pensées Nocturnes, a really good Black Metal act from France [lately all good Black comes from that place tbh] the "band" is just one dude and that really impress me since the guy is very talented diong everything. There's a lot of Piano a la Chopin and a lot of classic music going on And that's a truly awesome touch but don't think it sound like your average symphonic metal.. it's not like it.
His voice is so... surreal like he's been skined alive.
This is some beautiful Black Metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-vJZek3h1k)
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Electric Wizard are doom of a very different beast. In my head, the whole stoner doom/sludge field of bands like Electric Wizard, Sleep, Ramesses, Bongzilla, Buried at Sea, Weedeater, Grief etc. is distinctly seperate from say, St. Vitus, Witchfinder General, Cathedral, Reverend Bizarre and Pentagram. Some sludge bands even resent being called metal at all.
Yeah, I'll agree with that. I actually find my tastes tending one more iteration away from truly metal-styled doom, in that I prefer more psych-oriented bands like Sons of Otis and UfoMammut to sludgy filthmongers like Weedeater and Bongzilla.
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Do you know Esoteric?
Because if you like the psychodelic feel you must know/check them. It's insane Funeral Doom with like I said before, a really big psychodelic feel on it.
And with a hell of a solo around 3:00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjPHwCkqBpc)
That was imo the highlight of the entire 2008 and probably the funeral Doom scene.
Can't go wrong with an album that looks like this:
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Honestly I'm getting turned off by the vocals, I don't know if I could do a whole album of this. The instrumentals are pretty awesome, though.
This is more my speed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7I-fijKx8)
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Aw, that's a shame. Imo is the vocalist from Esoteric is easily one of the best growlers around. From low as hell to really freaky high-pitched screams that add a lot for the crazy feeling.
But If you liked the music I still recommend them since the guy don't open the mouth that often, it's a matter of training I guess. Doom isn't really the stuff you just get into in just a listen.
Sons of Otis was a nice listen. But I felt like it didn't change that much during those 7 and a half minutes. It's not like I want a lot of different riffs and stuff because I enjoy some really minimalsitic Drone Doom. But this time it wasn't that time [that sounded weird]
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Try some Acid King! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6eNI3r2gEI) The female vocalist adds an interesting touch.
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Now THAT'S the stuff I'm talking about. I heard of that name a lot of times but was way to lazy to check them out. Thanks man this is a good add.
Yeah, I dig this... It's a keeper :mrgreen:
When you said about the female vocalist One name went through my mind: Reino Ermitaño [Spanish for: "Hermit Kingdom"]
That's a Stoner Doom band from Peru I discovered for some years ago. A sad fact is that I can't find anything that I can buy. But they are good.
I can't find any youtube video that gives them justice but Here's the Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/reinoermitano) and I hope you like them... They wrote in among other influences Acid King And Electric Wizard so I think you can like this :)
I'm gona use the first post of this thread to continue with the recommendations I was writing in page 2 for the ones that want to get a little bigger collection. Hope you guys check something:
- Bloodbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyM0Nk5ueOQ) Did you think that Mikael from Opeth was just way to proggy or nice? Think again buddy! Because he and other big names like Anders Nyström & Jonas Renkse [Katatonia], Peter Tägtgren [Hipocrisy] and even Dan Swanö have done some stuff with this project. The main thing? Death Metal a la old school baby! Just check this song... Groove as hell and with that horror movie atmosphere that only old death metal bands like old Entombed and Hipocrisy had. This is a tribute from fans to the fans.
- Brujeria (http://www.myspace.com/brujeria) Ok.. First of all, you do NOT take this band seriously. It's just some slow paced Death metal from Mexico [jajaja yeah I kinda like slow and groove death metal]
- Brutal Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPeD8JD-Z6w) Here's some old and classic band from the Grindcore scene. That song is amazing. they used a Didgerido for christ's sake!!! Recommended for those who enjoy Pig Destroyer, Napalm Death and such
- Burzum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPyOhP1GTRQ[/url) Classic song from a classic band. Some minimalistic black metal that was unique back in the middle 90's when the second wave of black metal arrived with this band along with Darkthrone, Mayhem and the likes. This band is problably the main reason to why some black metal bands try the depressive feeling more than the original satan stuff etc etc... Here's another song less minimalistic althought the vocals are not for everyone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWynJCi_DSY)
- Coroner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEPCAXoMPf8) Now HERE'S a criminaly overlooked thrash metal band from the good old middle 80's and never got the attention they truly deserved because no one played Technical thrash metal like they did at that time!. If you concider yourself a Thrash fan they please search for all their albums because otherwise you will miss something nice.And of course I gonna put more (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyBOnfStlIw&feature=PlayList&p=8E69085BF2F69DF6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2) song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oooLGqI5gkk&feature=PlayList&p=8F99E5F4CD3B31CE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6)s from this band!
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If we're talking female fronted doom then surely Thorr's Hammer (http://www.myspace.com/thorr39shammer) deserve a nod. Runhild Gammelsæter's vocals on Dommedagsnatt are superb, particularly considering she was something daft like 19 at the time of recording.
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Hell yeah, she did an amazing job. I was gonna talk about them but hey, I'm not in T right now jajajaj.
Her vocals are impressive, not for everyone of course but she kick the shit out of the girl from Arch Enemy every day of the week.
Fopr the ones who like her, check out the drone metal band she is in called Khlyst
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Never mind the girl from Arch Enemy, I think her vocals are the best I've ever heard in a slow band (with the exception of Peet from Red Right Hand).
I had no idea Khlyst existed; they're really good! I was a little dubious at first since the only thing I know Plotkin from is Khanate who bore me to tears, but I've grabbed Chaos Is My Name and it's thoroughly impressing so far. Really wish I could see Thorr's Hammer at Supersonic next weekend (not to mention Corrupted, ridiculously good sludge from Japan) but alas, it is not to be.
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Dude... I do NOT talk to people who don't enjoy the sickness and disgusting music that Khanate creates. I truly enjoy that music... Well it's really hard to call it music but I liked them anyway and the best is when I want to torture friends of mine with that band... They hated it! But it's my house and my rules MUAJAJAJAJAJA.
The screams are sick... "OUTSIDE! UGLY! THIIIIIINGS VIIIIIIIRAL!!!!" From Too Close Enough To Touch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNwJkZuhFU&feature=related)
BUT! You mentioned Corrupted AND liked Khlyst so I'm gonna forgive you this time, glad you liked it.
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See, I know so many people that love that band I thought they'd be pretty great. But then I saw them live and they were really disappointing so I got bored and wandered off to the bar while I waited for Melt-Banana to come on and dominate. I thought it might have been an off night but all the Khanate heads were gushing about how crushing it all was and how one guy passed out due to the intensity. They kicked out a lot of noise, sure, but they didn't seem to do anything interesting with it (rather like Sunn).
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I actually like Sunn O))) but I think that if you compare it with other drone acts it's not THAT impressive. Sure it's good but I still fail to see the fuzz about them. Although Black One was pretty nice.
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I still fail to see the point about them.
Well, that's not entirely true. Two forumites were able to explain that it's not so much the music but rather the experience of the sounds as a ... feeling in your body and as a 'meditative' thing is actually totally worth it.
Good for them. I still think they're utter shyte.
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Better hated than ignored as some wice man said.
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Well ... I can do both in equal measure.
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Well.. ignored isn't really the word I wanted to write. It's better to hate something than don't know of it's existense.
Are you always kinda smartass everytime someone talks about a band you don't like? :-D
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Around here? That would be a fucking day job.
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O well... There has to be someone doing that job anyway. I know someone just like you [although older] from a metal forum so I also wanted someone to criticize just for the sake of doing it. It gives the forum that spice.
And because we have to stay on topic... Metal kick ass.
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- Coroner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEPCAXoMPf8) Now HERE'S a criminaly overlooked thrash metal band from the good old middle 80's and never got the attention they truly deserved because no one played Technical thrash metal like they did at that time!. If you concider yourself a Thrash fan they please search for all their albums because otherwise you will miss something nice.And of course I gonna put more (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyBOnfStlIw&feature=PlayList&p=8E69085BF2F69DF6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2) song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oooLGqI5gkk&feature=PlayList&p=8F99E5F4CD3B31CE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6)s from this band!
They sound similar to later Overkill.
(That's the exact opposite of badass)
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Want some overlooked thrash?
SADUS! \m/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPd9DycAVUI)
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They sound similar to later Overkill.
(That's the exact opposite of badass)
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Want some overlooked thrash?
SADUS! \m/ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPd9DycAVUI)
Overkill? WTF?.... Yeah, right. Meh.. I stick with Coroner,never got the attention they deserved. It actually surprise me that you don't like them, msot of the people I know who are into thrash and also the elitists I use to hate, love the band. Few bands were technical at the middle 80's. Then again, thrash is one of the genres I'm not so into... And I dislike most of the bands.
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Sorry, they're too slow for me. I like my thrash with a really high tempo. It just doesn't give me any energy like other faster, heavier thrash metal bands.
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my list from last year.
Amon Amarth- melodic death metal, bout vikings. fully awesome
Annihilator- old school thrash
Anthrax- happy sounding thrash
Arch Enemy- gothenburg styl melodic DM. not as heavy as amon amarth. girl singer/growler
Between the Buried and Me- proggy metalcore (Colours)
Black Label Society- heavy metal band, Zakk Wylde from Ozzy on guitar and vocals. pretty good
Black Sabbath- c'mon, you know these guys. heavy old school metal
Candlemass a seriously good traditional Doom metal band. very heavy guitar and rhythm, typically slower tempos, though a lot of mid tempo stuff, good soloing and a talented operatic style singer, he is a bit of a love/hate thing. check out their last three albums. newest one is sick!
Children Of Bodom good melodic death type stuff, great guitar.
Dark Tranquility gothenburg melodeath. easy to get into i think.
Death probably my favourite band here. this band started the death metal genre although has very little to do with the cannibal corpse type stuff. very heavy and technical, great rhythm and good solos. lots of complicated timing and exotic sounding licks. sorta growling singer, decent lyrics, more political in later albums, horror movieish in the first few. band broke up in 2001, when the original founder, guitarist vocalist and songwriter died of brain tumour and surgery complications.if you like metal i endorse these guys entirley
Dethklok- fictional DM band from the show metalocalypse. good music, funny lyrics
Devin Townsend- awesome metal drummer from various bands solo album. he has a band with him obviously. funny songwriting, brutally awesome drumming.
Dio- classic heavy metal stuff. like a mix between black sabbath and ozzy.
Dokken - hair metal, good guitar
Dream Theater- very talented progressive metal band. great stuff
Electric Wizard- the heaviest, trippiest, sweetest stoner metal band
Ensiferum- great folk metal. very awesome. guitarist left to form Wintersun
InFlames- good(well, used to) melodeath band. new stuff isnt bad, just not the same.
Iron Maiden you should know. good stuff
John 5 formerly of marylin manson, is actually good without manson bitching at him. good instrumental stuff, serial murder themed country elements(
Judas Priest- again a classic NWOBHM band.
Kreator- great german thrash band. its like slayer, but with talented guitarists, actual guitar solos and a less annoying singer. thumbs up!
Machine Head -great heavy thrash/groove metal. their new CD was thought to be the best release of the year
Mastodon- chances are youve heard of these guys. check the mastodon thread. awesome
Megadeth- good thrash band, metalica's contempories. exect they are still good.
Meshuggah -crazy band. super heavy, play 8 string guitars, immensly ridiculous timing and rhythm. kickass stuff, if you are into that sort of thing
Metallica -duh
Municipal Waste- very tight thrash band, punky lyrics, funny stuff too.
Opeth- other favourite band here. massive thread on them in the music section. melodic, heavy, growled clean, good atmosphere, highly recommended
Ozzy osbourne- good early metal/rock stuff. always has an amazing guitarist.
Pantera- good grooving thrash
Racer x -paul gilberts band. incredible instrumentation, rocking riffs and solos
Scorpions great hairmetal, rock stuff.
Slayer good riffing, terrible solos, thrash mostly anti christian lyrics
Solitude Aeturnus amazingly good doom metal band, same sort of thing as candlemass, more accsessible singer. i like them a lot
Testament- very metallica like [ride the lightning, fade to black ish stuff] better lead guitar. i prefer the singer here. more interesting riff work and songwriting imo. great band
Trouble- another great doom/stoner metal band. weird singer, aquired taste. i love the guitar and song feel. early albums are more doom, later are more rockish
Wintersun -first album, folky style stuff. melodic tight rhythm. very highly thought of
and more randoms since then
Alestorm - sick pirate metal, seriously check em out.
Amorphis- good melodic stuff
Anata - highly technical but very melodic(if weirdly so) heavy and tight. lots of counterpoint melody
Anterior - good metal core ish stuff. all growling, no blink 182 style singing like with metal core normally
Anubis Gate - Progressive metal. very cool stuff, neat interesting melodies, complicated songwriting
Arsis - fast technical death metal. some more rockish elements in comparison with other tech death stuff. a whole hell of a lot going on at once, but awesome riffs and songs
Artillery - great thrash band. only done two good albums apparently. one of them is their newest one(when death comes)
Athiest - jazzy tech death. have a few songs in fullfledged jazz mode, incredible musicians
Bathory - oldschool black metal. very very varied styles in different albums
Behemoth- blackened death metal. kinda exotic at times, decent guitar work, nice atmoshpere
Belphegor - blackened death. great great band, saw them live.
Bloodbath - old school death metal's "supergroup" with members from opeth, katatonia and hypocrisy. one of my favourtie straight up death metal bands
Cannibal Corpse - crazy stuff, check out their stuff with George Fisher(recent) for better production, singing, guitar, and tone. and less fucked lyrics
Carcass - guitarist michael ammot from arch enemy. old school DM, started melodeath
Cynic - more guitar and instruments based than metal. cool jazz fusion stuff with metal influences. or the other way around, who knows.
Darkest Hour - great band, melodic death metal. check out the song "the Tides" for some good riffs and one of my favourite guitar solos, ever. EVER.
Despised Icon - an ok deathcore band. good riffs, not a fan of singing style.
Destroyer 666 - kickass aussie black metal band. check it oot!
Disturbed - good standard metal band. you could probably put them on at a party and have people like it. but good riffs and choruses. intro to real metal.
Dying Fetus - bit like cannibal corpse, more technical. better and heavier riffs if you check out their newer albums, like "war of Attrition"
Enslaved - interesting black metal progressive band. nice production
Enthroned - black metal
Entombed- oldschool death metal/ rock
Exivious - great jazzy tech death metal instrumental band. members from Cynic and Textures
Gnostic - killer tech death band. drummer from athiest. tight heavy sound, really sweet bass lines and fills.
Goatsnake - stoner doom rock. like this one.
Goatwhore - blackened death metal with good riffs
Gojira - sludgy and loose sounding, but also very solid and tight. heavy as a 1000 shit-tons.
Gorgoroth - classic Black metal.
Gorguts - very very dark and confusing sound. tech death i suppose, but slower and more chaotic. if im in the mood these guys are great. talented as fuck.
Hacride - melodic tech death. ear pummelingly tight and heavy. new album Lazarus is a fave.
Himsa - epic melodic death metal. epic as in they sound killer. not like stratovarius.
Hypocrisy - institution of heavy extreme metal.
Immortal - favourite black metal band. crisp and cold sounding.
Insomnium - gothenburg style melodeath. new album is rad.
Impending Doom - heavy heavy mid tempo death metal. possibly christian. still good!
Kalmah - Folky melodeath of an awesome variety.
Karl Sanders - frontman and creator of Nile, doing exotic mostly acoustic melody based instrumentals. trancy, with ridiculous instrumentation. very favourite band that doesnt play with distortion. check out both albums.
Krallice - long meandering repetative hipster style black metal. i enjoy their stuff sometimes.
KREATOR - saw them live, nearly shat myself. it was that good thrash. :P
Metal church - surprisingly good band. not sure of genre. thrash i would guess.
Mithras - good obscure band. heavy, downtuned but quick and hardhitting deathmetal with oddly major sounding melodies.
Moonspell - another good melodeathish band.
Morbid Angel - dark sounding, heavy old school DM
Mustache - stoner classic heavy metal. some arena rock style choruses
My Dying bride - doomish metal. very sad sound. large discography. using violin a lot for great effect.
NECROPHAGIST - crazy tech death stuff. singer/lead/rythm guitarist is one talented mofo.
NILE - probably my all time favourite extreme metal band. egyptian death metal. very heavy fast, varied, complicated, with slow crushing sections and acoustic segments like in Karl Sander's solo stuff. damn.
Obituary - sludgy heavy oldschool DM
Obscura - already been mentioned. but worthy!
Obsidian - only have for their one cool song "fuck it up" extreme agression lol heavy thrash.
Origin - literally the heaviest fastest most technical band i have. maybe too much. still have their moments when the wankery is brilliant.
Overkill - underrated thrash band from the old days and until recently.
Primal Fear - Powermetal. great songwriting, very pump up ish.
PSYCROPTIC - next favourite extreme metal act. tech death from Australia. completely unique riffs and sound. very very cool once you can pick out all the stuff they throw at you.
QUO VADIS- probably the best melodic death/technical stuff. Day into Night is an album that just doesnt quit.
RoadRunner United - more supergroup style metal from the Roadrunner labels best bands.
Rwake - found them here on QC. black and death metal influenced doom metal.surprisingly talented lead guitar. lots of samples from strange movies.
Satyricon - black/death metal. lot like behemoth to me.
Savatage - members later formed the Trans Siberian Orchestra.
Sentenced - good band, great songs. kinda melodeath/classic/powermetal
Sirenia - standard gothenburg melodeth with femal and male vocalists, violin melody.
Sodom - early german thrash band, went more into blackened thrash.
Sonic Syndicate - metalcore.
Sons Of Otis - if electric wizard is too dark for your mushroom trips check these guys out.
Spawn of Possession - tech death. very difficult to follow unless you are really into the genre. still they have grown on me.
Stratovarius - power metal. fast guitar and keyboards, uplifting melodies and clean singing. like if dragonforce was simpler, actually had good riffs and werent douchebags.
Sylosis - metalcore/melodeath. terrific album. some solos sound very steve vai influenced
Symphony X - progressive power metal. like dream theater, more guitar oriented.
Textures - heavy tech death. varied styles.
Therion - great band. went from loose classic death metal to more progressive death to an interesting but ultimately not as cool incarnation as symphonic metal. going from growling in earlier albums to dual operatic, guy and girl.
Tyr - folk metal. 7 string heavy guitar parts/
Vader - terrific death metal band. unique growling voice, they do lots of slayer covers and write stuff heavier than antimatter.
Warbringer -saw live, cool talented but slightly generic modern thrash
Woe Of Tyrants - one of my favourite albums this year. heavy death metal.
this list took FOREVER. holy... you guys better check some of these out.
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I've heard of most of them and heard a fair few. I really can't go through and give my opinion on every one I've heard though (Lazy!).
My favourite out of your list is Kreator. So sad I missed them last spring.
I did see Enslaved open up for Opeth. Both bands were great. I wish Enslaved had played some older material though, like Opeth did.
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my list from last year.
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this list took FOREVER. holy... you guys better check some of these out.
Dude ... did your CD case just fall over?
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heheh, most of it. lot i left out cause i hadnt listened to it much, didnt know anything about it or didnt much like them.
other than that i like all those, so i recommend them all!
i already had the first half of the list written from when i posted a list of what i had available for the mediaf!re thread.
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Devin Townsend- awesome metal drummer from various bands solo album. he has a band with him obviously. funny songwriting, brutally awesome drumming.
WHAAAAT?! while i wholly endorse anything townsend-related, especially strapping young lad, he's a guitarist/vocalist, isn't and never has been a drummer! (although everyone who's drummed for him has been reet awesome).
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Nice list! But I found two things that maked me cry.
Alestorm... Dude, are you serious?! That's the most cheese band I've ever heard, not even Manowar is that cheese and that says a lot!
Sonic Syndicate... No coments.
Rest of the list was good though!
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Alestorm... Dude, are you serious?! That's the most cheese band I've ever heard, not even Manowar is that cheese and that says a lot!
I fail to see the problem.
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I can't stand flower metal bands. They are too ridiculous... And I fail to see the "fun" of the band. They tried too much with being all funny with the lyrics and imagery that it turned out to be boring as hell and so is the music. I like joke bands though! the problem is when the joke is not funny
And imo the tag Pirate Metal is weirdest tag ever along with vampire metal [wat?]. As if people have any idea what sort of music pirates made. It is just pirate themed folk power metal that's it and substandard at best imo.
The music is interesting... But for me it's like cotton candy, you know its a waste of money, and you know after eating it you'll feel sick, yet you can't help but eating more just because its so sugary.....
And there is another "Pirate" Metal band... Running Wild from the middle 70's
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i didnt say devin townsend did the drumming, just that the drumming itself was awesome.
yeah sonic syndicate isnt as good as i once thought, i just played it for a bit while i was writing the list, one of the few bands i listed that i hadnt listneed to much. not so good. but still some people are into that so i put it up.
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but still some people are into that
That's true... I'm into their bassist if you know what I mean :-D
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Anti pirate metal guy, Fuck youuuuuu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zUCdi9_wHI)
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I've been in desperate need for some new Metal music. I like deathmetal, but i also like instrumental and melodic metal.
Recently I've been listing too:
- Children of Bodom
- The Acacia Strain
- I Killed the Prom Queen
- Lacuna Coil
- Misery Signals
Only one of those bands is metal and it's false metal at that. Since I'm sure you have NO idea which one it is, I shall tell you: Children of Bodom.
this is just off the top of my head, i don't listen to much metal these days.
Clearly you don't since they're all about as metal as Abba.Mastadon,Kyuss,Agalloch, Boris, Sunn O)))
Doesn't get much more hipster than that bunch. If you throw on Mastodon, you might as well give Meshuggah a try- why overlook one nu metal band for another? Sunn O))) is about as heavy as those thunderstorm relaxation/meditation discs you can buy at Target.some metal albums released this year that I have been enjoying immensely, in alphabetical order:
Amesoeurs - s/t: think spacey post-rock infused black metal. if you like Agaloch you'll like these guys
Animals as Leaders - s/t: hands down one of my favorite metal albums this year. The guitarist is way too talented. I also upped this album in the mf!re thread a little while back...
Architects - Hollow Crown: pretty technical metalcore. You'll like LOVE these guys if you like IKAPQ/Acacia/MisSigs
Darkest Hour - The Eternal Return: American-style Swedish melodic death. After a couple listens, this is definitely their best since Hidden Hands of a Sadist Nation (which I would probably check out first - that album is amazing)
Goatwhore - Carving Out the Eyes of God: blackened death metal with catchy riffs that are sludgy as fcuk and heavier than a hundred walruses.
Gorod - Process of a New Decline: I'm still not sure how these guys can be as technical as they can and still maintain an amazing level of melody and coherence. Crazy talented, these guys are.
Hacricide - Lazarus: Another one of my favorite albums so far this year. Heavy, techincal, amazing songwriting and dynamism. Some of the softer parts reminded me of NIN, mixed with heavier Meshuggah/Gojira like riffing. A Definite must listen.
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos: THRASH/CIRCLEPIT/THRASH
Nightrage - Wearing a Martyr's Crown: Top-notch melodic death metal. Catchy riffs + solos with outrageous vibrato and scale runs = really fun listen
Obscura - Cosmogenesis : Techinical death metal with sexy fretless bass, razar-sharp riffs, ridicilous solos. Seriously, that bass,
Goatwhore blows, metalcore isn't metal, Gorod is fucking shit tech death (tech death itself is a horrific genre that is full of lame vapid music), Obscura is another one of those shitty bands. I have NO idea how you got into Kreator though, funny enough they're the only good band mentioned so far...In terms of doom metal good starting points would be Candlemass (King of the Grey Islands probably isn't their best but it's my favourite) and maybe My Dying Bride's Turn Loose the Swans. I guess some Sabbath would also be good- get Paranoid, Master of Reality and/or Heaven and Hell. For weirder slow albums I'd recommend Thergothon's Stream from the Heavens, Disembowelment's Transcendence into the Peripheral, and Nadja's Touched. These three albums are pretty inaccessible, though.
Nadja isn't metal (nevermind doom), diSEMBOWELMENT is a combination of death metal grind and doom and thus isn't doom per se, why the christ would you ever recommend Heaven and Hell, Paranoid should not be said in the same sentence as doom unless you're speaking of "Hand of Doom". MDB and Candlemass are horrible.I'll cover the stuff that I don't really hear anyone mentioning around here. Try Corrosion of Conformity (from Blind onward, at least. Haven't heard their earlier stuff, it is impossible to find), Crowbar (try Lifesblood for the Downtrodden, that one is more accessible than their early stuff), and Down. Also, Alabama Thunderpussy, and Black Label Society, to round out the southern metal / sludge metal while not getting into anything too off-putting. I know someone is going to come in here suggesting Eyehategod, but I don't really find them a good example of how to get to like the genre.
CoC, Down, and the rest of those SHIT bands aren't sludge. Most are just southern metal, with exception being Crowbar (which is just slowed down hardcore-ie NOT sludge). Eyehategod is the pinnacle of all sludge, but you wouldn't know that since you're too busy listening to Isis.Baroness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_U2ZFe1wtc) - I just found this fanmade video, it's pretty sweet.
Cynic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRbLaNqsxhM&feature=related) - fuck all the haters. Not that there are any on this board. Proto-tech-death-jazz-fusion.
Dethklok - needs no explanation
In Flames - any of their albums up to Whoracle, really driving melodeath/viking type stuff. After that they kind of stopped being good. The Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance still hasn't gotten old.
Kronos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQAEgS3dOU&feature=related) - see Colossal Titan Strife. Probably the most deathy band I'm recommending.
Lykathea Aflame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimRwSbq2bk) - the second most deathy. We will probably never hear music like theirs again.
Mastodon - this board is kind of love/hate about them. I like them. Whatever.
Baroness isn't even metal (seems you guys have zero concept of actual metal). Dethklok is a fucking disgrace to all metal and its creator is NOT a metalhead or funny-just another dumb wanker. *N Flamez says it all.
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Meshuggah is some sweet mathy metal, you should try obZen by them. Also I'd like to 2nd Between the Buried and Me, Alaska and Colors are GREAT albums. Anything ISIS has touched is gold, as well as Pelican and Russian Circles if you like the whole post-metal thing. Mastodon is sweet stoner/prog too... I'm just gonna list some more of these:
Baroness - amazing southern prog metal
BORIS - REALLY heavy Japanese stoner/doom metal
Cult of Luna - Swedish post-metal band, somewhat similar to ISIS, perhaps a bit darker
The Dillinger Escape Plan - thrashy, mathy experimental metal, perhaps a bit hardcore in it as well
Gojira - awesome Prog. Death metal, if you like BTBAM you will likely like this, and perhaps even if you don't
High on Fire - fantastic thrashy stoner/doom metal
Kylesa - again with the southern metal, somewhat crust-punk/psychedelic tinged
Neurosis - the original "post-metal" band, slow and atmospheric, crushingly heavy
OM - drone/stoner metal with an Eastern European tinge. Somewhat spiritual in nature, think of chanting.
Jesu - drone metal, but generally major key and more upbeat. I call it power drone.
Opeth - classic progressive death metal band, nobody really does it better than these guys.
Rosetta - another post-metal band, their self description of "Neurosis covering Stars of the Lid" says it best.
Sleep - Stoner/doom metal, original members went on to form High on Fire and OM, respectively. Sleep's Holy Mountain and Dopesmoker are amazing.
Sunn O))) - Drone doom metal, perhaps the best (or most well-known). Sounds dark, IMPOSSIBLY heavy, and equally slow.
Tombs - An interesting mix of atmospheric black metal and thrash, Winter Hours is a great album.
Torche - another very thick, heavy southern metal band, with pop influences of all things. Pop doom? I guess it's possible.
Wolves in the Throne Room - amazing atmospheric black metal/ambient music.
Probably the worst, most misguided post so far. Hell, I'm going to dissect this one and prove why each one is wrong. Baroness aren't metal, as already established. Cult of Luna are a post rock band. Boris is not doom metal at all, nor are they heavy. The Dillinger Escape Plan is in NO fathomable way metal-they're just shitty mathcore. Gojira is about as interesting as Opeth... High on Fire is WHOLYY inferior to Matt Pike's earlier band. Kylesa is fucking crusty sludge, you moron. Neurosis is the epitome of artsy faggy pseudo metal. Opeth is for the mentally challenged who like to seem unique by listening to metal. Rosetta follows suit of Neurosis. Sleep is simply stoner metal and probably the best band in the genre. Sunn O))) isn't a metal band-they're just drone. Tombs sucks. Torche isn't a fucking southern metal band, they're a pop rock band that downtunes. It's a pretty simplistic concept. WitTR wish they could suck Varg Vikerne's cock, but settled for Malefic's. MESHUGGAH IS NOT METAL and holy fuck neither is Pelican. If a metal riff is not present, then the band isn't a metal band. Simple concept that has eluded almost all of you.
I wouldn't say I'm a troll, but I'd be lying. That said, my posts aren't troll posts, but rather informative guides. I simply wanted to correct a few misconceptions that I saw when Caspian linked me to this thread.
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Oh, hey Ultraboris. Didn't know you read QC.
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I've tried to have this dialogue before, particularly about fucking Mastodon, but apparently what is and is not metal is 'just my opinion'.
Could have tried drawing a little more distinction between bands you don't like and bands you are (as far as I can see absolutely correctly) asserting are not metal. The first actually is a matter of your personal opinion, and the other ain't. No wonder people can get so confused about metal if people go around apparently claiming that Children of Bodom are not a metal band. No matter how shit you think they are there is no way of getting round the fact.
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I said that CoB is a false metal band.
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How on earth are you saying Boris aren't heavy?
Seriously, dude. Seriously.
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I said that CoB is a false metal band.
Calling bands true and false should be relegated to the Impaled Northen Moonforest forums, where it belongs.
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I said that CoB is a false metal band.
Calling bands true and false should be relegated to the Impaled Northen Moonforest forums, where it belongs.
That's the fucking reason... That's why most of the people who are not into metal think that metalheads are idiots. Because there are some that are going around telling what's metal and what's not. Nü Metal is metal.... A very bad subgenre but metal anyway and that's a fact.
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MESHUGGAH IS NOT METAL
RIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT... And.... who are you again?
why the christ would you ever recommend Heaven and Hell, Paranoid should not be said in the same sentence as doom unless you're speaking of "Hand of Doom".
Emmm... Maybe because Black Sabbath was a huuuuuge influence for the entire doom metal scene? There are a lot fo trademark stuff on Paranoid that sounds like doom metal.Anti pirate metal guy, Fuck youuuuuu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zUCdi9_wHI)
Hey man.. there is a huge difference between that joke band Alestorm and Running Wild.... The later one is not trying to be a pirate. I'm not against "pirate music" ... I'm just against "stupid pirate music"
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-The best pirate metal band is Cauldron Black Ram, the Australian Death Metal band.
-Doom metal Sabbath is on Master of Reality, not Paranoid.
-Anyone who says Candlemass sucks is a fool and doesn't like real doom metal, same goes for Saint Vitus.
-I would rather listen to hispter metal than Metalcore or Nu-Metal any day.
- Meshuggah sucks because of their uncreative songs and shitty vocalist, while they do have something in common with metalcore vocals, they're on Metal Archives and that's good enough for me.
- I haven't seen Kermit_1918 offer any counter recommendations.
That's the fucking reason... That's why most of the people who are not into metal think that metalheads are idiots. Because there are some that are going around telling what's metal and what's not. Nü Metal is metal.... A very bad subgenre but metal anyway and that's a fact.
Why yes, which is why I didn't call anyone out on any of the bands they posted here that I didn't think were metal/don't like. I don't really consider myself a metalhead, even though I listen to tons of metal.
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Pensées Nocturnes, a really good Black Metal act from France [lately all good Black comes from that place tbh] the "band" is just one dude and that really impress me since the guy is very talented diong everything.
If you like that guy then Mirrorthrone (http://www.myspace.com/mirrorthrone) will blow your mind. Mirrorthrone is also a one-man-superband - melodic black metal with beautiful classical touches. His last album Gangrene was one of my favorite albums from last year, and one of the best musical discoveries I've made in a long time.
And here are a couple more metal bands that I've been listening to that I think are nothing short of incredible:
Fleshgod Apocalypse (http://www.myspace.com/fleshgodapocalypse): description of their latest album Oracles from their myspace: "Fierce anti-Sophistic sermons, sharp strings laments, unmerciful skins shredding, and refined orchestral interludes, in a unique opera for the celebration of the ratio and the positivist thought, honoring the fathers of the classical spirit."
The solos are almost as beautiful as the seemingly eerie breaks of classical music, which include the sounds of an orchestra warming up, an insane piano intro, choral religious chants, and a hauntingly beautiful piano outro. If the forefathers of classical music wanted to start a technical death metal supergroup, this is what they would sound like. This is one of my top albums of 2009.
Shining (http://www.myspace.com/shininghalmstad) - depressive black metal titans, their two most recent albums could be considered more progressive than black metal. Incredible songwriting, which I am a stickler for. It's also good to know that these guys can appreciate the benefits of super crisp production.
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-Doom metal Sabbath is on Master of Reality, not Paranoid.
Maybe, but you have to admit that Electric funeral is pretty damn heavy as well, it is just that Planet caravan undid all of the heavy in Hand of Doom and Electric Funeral.
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Pensées Nocturnes, a really good Black Metal act from France [lately all good Black comes from that place tbh] the "band" is just one dude and that really impress me since the guy is very talented diong everything.
If you like that guy then Mirrorthrone (http://www.myspace.com/mirrorthrone) will blow your mind. Mirrorthrone is also a one-man-superband - melodic black metal with beautiful classical touches. His last album Gangrene was one of my favorite albums from last year, and one of the best musical discoveries I've made in a long time.
Yeah man, of course I know about them and I have that cd on my computer, great music I must tell ya. I was listening to them while playing some roll game and damn, it was an awesome experience! I must admit that I preffer Pensées Nocturnes, mainly because of the voice that it's so twisted and depressive along with that piano a la Chopin but Mirrorthrone is of course something to check out.
And I LOVE Shining... The vocalist is an arrogant asshole though, but I just care about his music. The best cds imo are IV and V.
-Doom metal Sabbath is on Master of Reality, not Paranoid.
-Anyone who says Candlemass sucks is a fool and doesn't like real doom metal, same goes for Saint Vitus.
- Meshuggah sucks because of their uncreative songs and shitty vocalist, while they do have something in common with metalcore vocals, they're on Metal Archives and that's good enough for me.
- I see some clear doom even on Black Sabbath's debut. Not extreme doom of course but it sounds like traditional Doom... It's like a prototype of how the old school doom sounded like.
- I agree, it's ok if you don't like them,.... But you can't just say that the band sucks. They are legends when it comes to traditional doom. It's like... For example: I really don't like Iron Maiden, but I feel like I can't say they suck... Because they don't. It's just music that it's not for me.
- Metal Archives is full of hypocrites if you ask me. They have drone bands like Sunn O))) and Nadja. But they don't have drone bands that sound more metal like the band Angelic Process. And they don't put Nü Metal and Metalcore... Both styles SUCK, I think we can agree on that. But they are a type of metal no matter if we like it or not. I dislike that kind of attitude on MA...
If they have drone... Then I don't really see why they don't put Metalcore and Nü Metal. And no... The bands being shit is not an excuse for not making a place for them.
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Fleshgod Apocalypse (http://www.myspace.com/fleshgodapocalypse): description of their latest album Oracles from their myspace: "Fierce anti-Sophistic sermons, sharp strings laments, unmerciful skins shredding, and refined orchestral interludes, in a unique opera for the celebration of the ratio and the positivist thought, honoring the fathers of the classical spirit."
The solos are almost as beautiful as the seemingly eerie breaks of classical music, which include the sounds of an orchestra warming up, an insane piano intro, choral religious chants, and a hauntingly beautiful piano outro. If the forefathers of classical music wanted to start a technical death metal supergroup, this is what they would sound like. This is one of my top albums of 2009.
Just bought it. I like it. It's blistering.
Also: it's not easy being green. It makes you agressive.
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O shit.... I forgot to check that band out when Harum wrote the post. I'm hearing them right now and woooooooow.
I'm not really into death metal but this kind of bands are just my thing. Thank you for the recommendation, Harum!
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Wait, if CoB is false metal, then that means... Skwisgaar Skwigelf doesn't exist!
I wonder what would happen if someone told Johan Hegg of Amon Amarth that there are no more Vikings. I'd attempt a mspaint reconstruction, but it'd probably all end up the truest shade of crimson.
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Mastadon,Kyuss,Agalloch, Boris, Sunn O)))
Doesn't get much more hipster than that bunch.
Ahahahahahahaha
Kyuss broke up 10 years before the people you're calling "hipsters" even existed
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Don't mind him, he is a self-admitted troll, under the twin delusions that he is A) making useful contributions, and B) in any way, shape, or form funny.
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People like Kermit are why people are afraid to post opinions or get into metal music. We get it, you have to be an elitist and shit all over anyone whose taste doesn't coincide with your definition of "true" this or that in order to validate your taste as authentic. Cool story, bro.
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The Dillinger Escape Plan really are not a metal band though.
I gotta stand with him on this point.
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I'm not really disputing any individual selections or things that he didn't think were "metal", more just the general dickhole authoritative tone he took with the whole thing. "Look everyone, I know exactly what metal is and is not, and I am going to go to great lengths to make that fact apparent to all of you. LOOK AT ME!" That kind of posting really doesn't contribute anything helpful to the topic at all and just makes you look like an asshole, really.
To be clear, I just kind of lump the term "metal" with any kind of heavy music that's guitar oriented. That could be just a lack of expertise or something on my part, but I was simply trying to make suggestions of "heavy" music that some people might like. That's no reason to make a giant post taking a massive dump all over everything I said. Whether or not the bands fit your definition of "metal", they might fit for someone else. The way Khar phrased it, more of a general "Hey, DEP aren't really metal", is fine. Kermit's "NONE OF THIS IS METAL YOU ARE A GIANT FUCKING IDIOT FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOU", not so much.
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Yeah but, they're not a metal band.
That's not a value judgement. It is kinda like, say, a friend tells you his favourite goth rock band is New Order. It's not even 100% wrong, and it doesn't mean New Order are bad. But they're not a goth rock band.
You see what I mean?
This is also true of a few other bands people have mentioned but I've been leaving off on it.
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They have elements of metal, that's why I included them. I was more taking this thread as a general "heavy music thread" than I was a "metal is a very specific genre and you must post bands only within these set guidelines or else be publicly shamed" thread. Like I said, it's fine for people to not agree with the placement, I'm not defending DEP's status as a metal band. My post was just a list of friendly suggestions that someone might like if they like metal. And my point right now is that Kermit's post was just a giant dick move that is entirely unnecessary and counterproductive to the entire point of the thread, which is to turn people on to new music.
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- Metal Archives is full of hypocrites if you ask me. They have drone bands like Sunn O))) and Nadja. But they don't have drone bands that sound more metal like the band Angelic Process. And they don't put Nü Metal and Metalcore... Both styles SUCK, I think we can agree on that. But they are a type of metal no matter if we like it or not. I dislike that kind of attitude on MA...
If they have drone... Then I don't really see why they don't put Metalcore and Nü Metal. And no... The bands being shit is not an excuse for not making a place for them.
I would say that excluding metalcore is perfectly reasonable since it's a subgenre of punk not metal (hence the 'core suffix). But they fluff that justification massively since they include plenty of punk by listing grindcore bands. It does seem to mostly be about what it's acceptable for a metalhead to like rather than what's technically metal. Which is fine really if that's what they want to do, but I totally agree that Metal Archives doesn't seem to be a very definitive way of determining whether or not a band should be classed as metal or not.
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actually, there are at least a half dozen Nu-metal bands that really kick ass. (IMO) Dry Kill Logic, Primer 55's newer stuff, American Head Charge, Flaw,... and I think Cky and Black Light Burns fit in that vauge genre too. the good shits out there, we just gotta dig.
as far as metalcore goes... I like Killswitch engage. that is the limit of my knowledge. :-P
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It does seem to mostly be about what it's acceptable for a metalhead to like rather than what's technically metal. Which is fine really if that's what they want to do,
Mmmmm Fair enough. Although Grindcore is "more metal" than Metalcore anyway :P except primitives albums like Scum by Napalm Death and the likes.
And I agree with the thing I just quoted. It's ok if that's your purpose but it seems like the staff from MA is so... Like if they don't really have a solid opinion about a subject and everyone has his/her own opinion and that's why there are bands that shouldn't be there and viceversa. O well... I just use MA for basic info about a band and for good links for their myspace and other things. The only metal site I really like is Metal Storm.
Having place thanks to another page here are more recommendations [PS: Some stuff might not be metal but I recommend it anyway because it's more likely to be good for a metal-listener than to other people]:
- The Angelic Process (http://www.myspace.com/theangelicprocess) Nah... The band isn't really religious, but a huge heavy sound of drone with very special vocals. You see, buried in the fuzzy music and production there are some of the most cristal clear and beautiful female vocals I've ever heard. A review I was reading puts it like this: someone trapped and being dragged down the slopes of the vulcano, screaming for help. Yet they remain very clean and pure, even when she is screaming on the top of her lungs. And because of the infinite purity, it sounds so unnatural, so unreal. This band was: M. Dragynfly and K. Angylus, husband and wife. Unfortunately the band is no more since Angylus died a for about a year ago. It really sucks when bands disband for something tragic like the death of someone, specially if they were brilliant in what they did.
- Dark Lunacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VJF43EPQaU) Talking about Fleshgod Apocalypse maked me remember another band [less brutal though] that plays some kind of [melodic] Death metal with some really nice classical touch on it. The music is really emotional. The lyrics are usually about WWII but not on a politic level. Their focus is on suffering, fear, hope and desperation like if the lyrics were written by a civil looking at the city being completely destroyed and people around dying of cold and starve.
- Darkspace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6howzn7v8&feature=related) Black metal from the space jajaja. But really, this is serious business. This is how atmospheric Black metal should be, like a huge black hole that would take you to another place, like a supernova exploting right in front of you. The keyboards at times sounds really "alien" and gives a psychodelic feel along with the repetitive riffs, but don't worry because this is not monotone, it's a good trip. The two guitarrist and bassist are vocalists here, giving some kind of a "vortex of dying screams". This band does what most Depressive/Ambient/Suicidal Black Metal fails to do. It is a preview of death, as Atheism perceives it. No thoughts, no feelings, no emotions, nothing.
- Darkthrone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwu83RR6ZU&feature=related)... I don't know if it's neccesary to put a video for this band because everybody who knows their Black metal knows about this guys. Like the lyrics says: "So pure, so cold" But the ones that just know their black metal stuff should totally check out the Black/rock 'n' roll stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cLablcs87A) they are doing know, it's really fun to listen to.
- Deathspell Omega (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxL3COk-MAI&feature=related) Probably my favorite Black Metal band atm. One of the best among the so called orthodox Black metal scene. For the ones who don't know what the scene is about, it's satanism on a metaphysical level and other theological topics. lyrically and ideologically more thorough than most Satanic black metal bands. Some might find it pretentious, I think it's brilliant... Just check out the lyrics (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/deathspellomega/knse.html#2) from the song I put here. The band must have witnessed pure madness. The roaring "war-speech" in the track is so full of a thunderous power it is beyond all imagination. And the drums are... frightening because the muscular intensity sounds almost inhuman.
I hope some people will like this stuff.
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Mr. Doctor, I really think you would like Peste Noire as far as new black metal goes. They're also French, and while they sound nothing like DSO, they are in my opinion very creative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMGO2ZN3Sto
The frontman, Famine, is inspired by Medieval French poetry, they have some really cool sounding stuff.
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Mr. Doctor, I really think you would like Peste Noire as far as new black metal goes. They're also French, and while they sound nothing like DSO, they are in my opinion very creative.
Jejeje, Peste Noire had members from Amesoerus and also Neige from Alcest... Those two being one of my favorite bands, so yeah... I know about Peste Noire :-D. Damn, France is really kicking ass when it comes to BM.
It's the intention that counts though, thanks!
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You could also check out the Les Légions Noires scene in French black metal, they were earlier on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_L%C3%A9gions_Noires
I've heard some Belketre and Vlad Tepes, it's good if you like raw black metal.
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I knew about them as well :lol: ... I blame this situation of mine, moved to another town for about 3 weeks and not knowing a soul makes you spend too much time on the internet.
I don't really like that kind of raw black metal. Vlad Tepes sounds really heavy metal if you take off the production and not really my kind of heavy/black XP. Mütiilation on the other hand was good enough, but still... that kind of raw BM has two options: being great or being meh. The only bands that sound good enough imo are Mütiliation and Torgeist.
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Try some of these
- Within Temptation
- Evanesces
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Well ... I finally tried Amesoeurs.
That's actually all that's positive about that disc. I tried it.
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As an aside, After the Burial puts on a sick show.
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Try some of these
- Within Temptation
- Evanesces
while I have the complete works of both of those bands on my Ipod, I feel the need to smack you. :x
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Try some of these
- Within Temptation
- Evanesces
while I have the complete works of both of those bands on my Ipod, I feel the need to smack you. :x
Smack if you must, just be gentle ;)
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Well ... I finally tried Amesoeurs.
That's actually all that's positive about that disc. I tried it.
Jjajaja well, this time I can't discuss with you because even if I love Amesoeurs, they are still a love or hate band.
half of people I know despise that band and the othe half of the people love them
Good that you tried though.
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Thank you. Tried to find Peste Noir, but they didn't have it, much to my surprise. Anything else black I missed so far in this thread and need to check?
Also: I own everything Within Temptation has put out as well. I like 'em. Evanescenescenescececse .... not so much.
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yeah, I really wouldn't mind if evanescence... evanesce-d... :-(
but that may be do to the fact my itunes Shuffler thinks every 5th song (of 500 or so albums) needs to be evanescence... and now I wanna gut amy lee...
so..
that may contribute!
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What a strange bias to have, for an iPod. Maybe some Goth chick hexed it?
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Anything else black I missed so far in this thread and need to check?
Mmmm From all the stuff I've put so far from page 2 until now I just recomended Burzum, Darkspace, Darkthrone and Deathspell Omega. And I guess you know about most of them XP. I will put more stuff... I'm just in the middle of the D ;)
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The only places I've seen selling Peste Noire CDs have been online and at a specialty record store...so, yeah. It's always a great idea to order stuff directly from the label with BM.
http://transcendentalcreations.com/distribution.php?cat=5
8th one down is what you want.
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What a strange bias to have, for an iPod. Maybe some Goth chick hexed it?
well, I have an assload of "goth" type music, so unless this goth chick is punishing me with it... she's really only hurting herself!
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Any good stuff out there with clean (or at least growl/mutter/whatever-free) vocals? I've not been able to find anything I like past a number of metal groups with female singers and Neue Deutsche Harte (because they actually like singers with deep voices). Also: Classic/power-metal-sounding male vocals bug the hell out of me. About the only man in metal (past NDH) I have found that I like to hear is Marco Hietala (Nightwish, Tarot, Northern Kings), and him only on certain tracks.
(And eternal thanks to that guy who posted Baroness ~ Rays on Pinion in this thread)
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Dude, Check Charon/Poisonblack out. they sing pretty clean... but Avoid a Dead Heavy Day by Poisonblack, that singer just sucks.
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if no one mentioned them
Khoma - they're like post metal meets Radiohead meets Post-hardcore....I don't really know what the fuck to call them but I love them. Tsunami is the better of their two albums, but is the harder one to find. I will be uploading it to mediafire sometime soon though and will post it here later.
Gris - Il etait un Foret - you may consider this a rip off of like 4 other black metal bands. I don't, I find it a superb depressive black metal album and everyone should listen to it.
Obscura - Anticosmic Overload - Perhaps my favourite Death metal album of all time, itis my favourite of this year.
Terrorhorse - FIrst EP - it's available for free at their website - super-technical death metal from my Home town (yes I'm whoring, but I only whore bands I actually like)
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You could check out Sigh, one of the more interesting black metal bands. Mixing over the top baroque tunes with slow and hevy riffing.
Infidel Art especially is a great album.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC2eNZ5xPyc)
Enthroned is great too, very consistent discography and they always manage to put in some catchy riffage.
Behemoth nowadays is rather meh, but their Grom album is a masterpiece; accoustic interludes, female vocals and devilishly fast
Gorgoroth, another band that hasn't put out anything good in years, but their first three albums are some the best stuff released
Anaal Nathrakh, great mix of black metal and grindcore; their latest releases make an interesting use of clean vocals
Also heavily seconding the Peste Noire, they're probably my favourite.
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Behemoth nowadays is rather meh, but their Grom album is a masterpiece; accoustic interludes, female vocals and devilishly fast
I think that Demigod was amazing, crushing masterpiece. But The Apostasy and Ecvangelion are soooooooooooooooo "meh"
I mean, they have skills... A LOT of skills that makes me go all "wooow man", but that's it... Nothing more. Perfect performance doesn't make a album good, you need more than that, more passion.
IMO everything from the beginning to Demigod is worth checking out.
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so the new Katatonia album Night Is the New Day is floating around, and 'tis absolutely stunning. probably one of the most consistently solid metal albums i've heard all year. Mikael Akerfeldt has even called it a masterpiece and the best heavy album he's heard in 10 years.
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so the new Katatonia album Night Is the New Day is floating around, and 'tis absolutely stunning. probably one of the most consistently solid metal albums i've heard all year.
Is it better than The Great Cold Distance? Because even though I like that album, I believe it needed more strenght.
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i'd say so. The Great Cold Distance is a bit heavier guitar/instrument wise, and tends to blend into itself a little too much.
Night Is the New Day has better pacing, is a bit more dynamic (e.g. opening closing tracks are very different but equally awesome), and more memorable/standout tracks. I've been spinning it for a couple days (almost nonstop without listening to anything else) and i'm loving it more every time i listen to it I'll put it up in the mf!re thread momentarily...
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I'll put it up in the mf!re thread momentarily...
Thank you!!
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Bought some incantation based solely on the word of you people and so far I like it.
Ta!