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Title: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 15:23
This thread is just for pictures of notorious super villain Dov Charney.

Let's start with the basics -

(http://idealpolitik.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/pantsless-dov-charney.jpg)

Feel free to add comments to the pictures as the thread progresses. Speculation as to what specifically the situation was when the photo was taken etc.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 01 Dec 2009, 15:30
He was posing for his annual Mother's Day picture.  Apologies for the skeeviest thing to ever come out of Montreal.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Dec 2009, 15:32
Her facial expression is priceless.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 15:37
Three weeks previously Chantelle arrived in Los Angeles from Elmo, Utah. It was always her dream to work in fashion. Six hours after being introduced to Mr Charney, she was offered her first line of pure cocaine, elegantly sliced using a corporate credit card under the name of her benefactor. Since then much of her stay in California has been a blur.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 01 Dec 2009, 15:39
who is Dov Charney and where are his pants
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 15:40
If Mr Charney was wearing pants, you would not be able to see his elegant but deliberate choice to match his underwear and training shoes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 01 Dec 2009, 15:42
Dov Charney is the kind of guy who would say: "I'm dating a 14 year old.  But don't worry, she has the body of a 12 year old."  He would then introduce you to the 14 year old.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 01 Dec 2009, 15:44
First thought: The girl looks photoshopped in.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 15:46
Dov Charney is the kind of guy who would say: "I'm dating a 14 year old.  But don't worry, she has the body of a 12 year old."  He would then introduce you to the 14 year old.

His favourite joke is "What's the best thing about having sex with a 12 year old?"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Tom on 01 Dec 2009, 15:57
Dov Charney, Living the American Dream (http://current.com/items/88957940_american-ap-perv-el.htm)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Tom on 01 Dec 2009, 15:57
ERRRNGUUUU...I LUV TEESHIRTS!!!<THRUST>
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Avec on 01 Dec 2009, 16:39
More current fans?!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: J-cob9000 on 01 Dec 2009, 16:39
Dov Charney is the kind of guy who would say: "I'm dating a 14 year old.  But don't worry, she has the body of a 12 year old."  He would then introduce you to the 14 year old.

His favourite joke is "What's the best thing about having sex with a 12 year old?"
Fuck her in the shower, slick her hair back and she looks 8.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 01 Dec 2009, 18:48
If there's grass on the field play ball, if spring hasn't sprung. Roll over and play in the mud.


God I hate myself right now.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 01 Dec 2009, 19:20
I think this thread makes up for all the bellyaching around this forum the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 19:31
Come on, post them up.

(http://static.cozop.com/imgdepot2/a/c/f/1f1711ba6fd1009bf414061648fceacf.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lines on 01 Dec 2009, 19:36
(http://www.americanapparel.net/presscenter/articles/images/dov-charney-20080811newsat1.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 01 Dec 2009, 19:37
Apologies for the skeeviest thing to ever come out of Montreal.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lines on 01 Dec 2009, 19:50
I feel dirty every time I look at AA's site. I would hate it completely if it were not for the fact I like their t-shirts. (You know, the one threadless and other companies print on.) Sigh...
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 01 Dec 2009, 19:51
(http://static.cozop.com/imgdepot2/a/c/f/1f1711ba6fd1009bf414061648fceacf.jpg)

Start wearing purple, wearing purple
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Reed on 01 Dec 2009, 19:53
(http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/scanner/2008/01/08-15/dov_again.jpg)

or pink!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: StaedlerMars on 01 Dec 2009, 19:56
ew
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 01 Dec 2009, 19:59
Ehh, it's not that big.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 20:01
The surprise is Hepatitis C.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 01 Dec 2009, 20:14
I don't think contracting Hepatitis C from Dov Charney is really surprising.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Reed on 01 Dec 2009, 20:15
That's because he will actually give you Lassa Fever.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Mnementh on 01 Dec 2009, 20:15
(http://static.cozop.com/imgdepot2/a/c/f/1f1711ba6fd1009bf414061648fceacf.jpg)

Start wearing purple, wearing purple

This is similar to what I thought:

Dogs were barking, guests were parking, and my wedding was about to start
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: phooey on 01 Dec 2009, 20:20
(http://urbangreengirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/dovme_sm.jpg)

This picture may even exceed the thousand-word quota.  Poignant shit here, people.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 01 Dec 2009, 20:21
(http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dov-charney-345x258.jpg)

i've been trying to work out for ages what's going on in this one and all i can come up with is that after years of taking sleazy photos of girls for his company, dov charney can't even pick up a camera to take his own ding dang self portrait anymore without finding himself almost instantly sporting a massive awkward erection.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 01 Dec 2009, 20:49
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/dov_sesame_street_jezebel.jpg)
note how two of the lady muppets are looking at him and not the camera like everyone else is
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 01 Dec 2009, 20:54
I noticed they're doing some Sesame Street tie-in thing at the moment. This one caught my eye:

http://store.americanapparel.net/rsa642shw.html (http://store.americanapparel.net/rsa642shw.html)

Note the positioning of the words "Honk honk", one honk above each breast.

Classy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Dec 2009, 21:45
I straight up hate American Apparel shirts.  They make them way to small, even the plus sizes.  I have a 2XL and it feels like I'm wearing a large shirt.  I would have returned it, but I love my Olly's Organix t-shirt way too much.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 21:49
Hey, this is just the Dov Charney photo thread. All we do here is speculate on his life and talk about our feelings towards Dov Charney. That and post photos of him -

(http://www.americanapparel.net/presscenter/articles/images/dov-charney-20060428npr1.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 01 Dec 2009, 21:56
(http://www.adrants.com/images/dov_charney_retailer_year_dildo.jpeg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 21:59
Please read this entire article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14082498/) for shit's sake.

Quote
Dov Charney, American Ampparel CEO (on deposition video): There is no evidence to say that you can’t walk around in your underwear all day anywhere in the United States of America.

Charney (in deposition tape): I frequently drop my pants to show people my new product

Quote
“I’m not saying I want to screw all the girls at work,” he was quoted as saying in Jane, “But if I fall in love at work it’s going to be beautiful and sexual.”

Quote
Fink (deposition): Did you ever, at work, refer to women as “sluts”?

Charney: In private conversations, where such language was generally welcome.

Fink: Do you view "slut" to be a derogatory term?

Charney: You know, there are some of us that love sluts. You know, it’s not necessarily—it could be also be an endearing term.

Fink: An endearing term. Is that something you call your mother?

Charney:  No. But it’s maybe something that you call your lover.

Fink (Dateline interview):  I’m very difficult to floor me.  That floored me when I heard his explanation that “slut” is an endearing term.

Charney freely admits using a number of explicit terms for female body parts—including the “C” word.

Charney: During the period when she worked, did I use the word c***?

Fink: In the workplace?

Charney: Absolutely, as she did.

Fink: I didn’t ask you if she did.

Charney: I’m telling you a little more. I’m volunteering a little more ha ha [sticks out tongue].

Quote
Fink: At the workplace in the years 2003 and 2004 how often in the work week would you be in your underwear?

Charney: There were months I was in my underwear all the time. It became very common.

Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: SWOON! at My Gravitas on 01 Dec 2009, 22:00
Now I am no pervertologist, but I do believe this man might be a pervert.

Also,

BEHOLD!!! (NSFW) (http://fashionindie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/american-apparel-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 01 Dec 2009, 22:04
God he has a nice ass.


Also, Tommy, all those quotes are making him charming stop it. Also, I hate it when people go,"the 'c' word'' ffff
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 22:07
(http://www.dovcharney.com/images/dov-charney-hedkayce.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Dec 2009, 22:07
(http://www.dovcharney.com/images/dov-charney-self-portrait-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Beren on 01 Dec 2009, 23:25
Best ad. Favourite ad.

(http://www.adrants.com/images/dv.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: LeeC on 01 Dec 2009, 23:41
Best ad. Favourite ad.

I have to agree!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 02 Dec 2009, 01:11
What's good about it?

What's it even advertising?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Tom on 02 Dec 2009, 02:44
It's advertising t-shirts.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Gemmwah on 02 Dec 2009, 03:13
i am not gonna lie this thread makes me feel very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Dec 2009, 03:32
Are you is this what the...this is for serious?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: phooey on 02 Dec 2009, 04:50
Also, Tommy, all those quotes are making him charming stop it.

I'm volunteering a little more ha ha  :-P
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2009, 06:31
I straight up hate American Apparel shirts.  They make them way to small, even the plus sizes.  I have a 2XL and it feels like I'm wearing a large shirt.

Huh, really? I usually either wear an XL or 2XL, and AA's 2XL are loose-fitting on me.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Dec 2009, 06:44
Okay, is it just me or does it look like most of that chick in the first picture is actually painted onto the wall?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:18
Also, Tommy, all those quotes are making him charming stop it.

Quote
“I’m not saying I want to screw all the girls at work,” he was quoted as saying in Jane, “But if I fall in love at work it’s going to be beautiful and sexual.”

there is something wrong in yr brain
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: the_pied_piper on 02 Dec 2009, 08:37
I was wondering who Dov Charney was and why everybody thought he was so skeevy.

Now I know.

Maybe too much.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:38
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/leeds/content/images/2007/08/26/gogol_bordello_01_400x300.jpg)

Dov on the left
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Dec 2009, 08:38
You are displeasing Dov Charney -

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2008/04/dovcharney2.jpeg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:41
That picture looks perfectly normal but what you don't see is that his shirt ends just below that button in the bottom of frame. Also no pants, of course
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Dec 2009, 08:43
I am not sure it is possible to take a "normal" photo of Dov Charney.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:49
From Gawker:
 (http://gawker.com/5323472/we-predict-more-lawsuits-in-dov-charneys-future)
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Summer is supposed to be a great sales season for AA. Needless to say, with the state of the economy, sales haven't been going so well. Dov usually gets on the conference calls and talks to people, but one week, he went on a huge tirade and made stores that weren't doing well send in group photos. Why, you ask? He made store managers across the country take group photos of their employees so that he could personally judge people based on looks. He is tightening the AA 'aesthetic,' and anyone that he deems not good-looking enough to work there, is encouraged to be fired. This is blatant discrimination based on looks.

Dov personally judged each person in group photos that were sent in, and if you weren't to his liking, then boy... watch out. The comments that he made were raging from childish ones to insulting ones. Managers that don't comply with these new standards are afraid of losing their jobs. Employees who aren't up to Dov's "look" and whose work ethic is "just ok" are being targeted and scrutinized and the minute they make small mistakes, they are being fired. But it's only because Dov wants to weed out the "ugly people." It's ironic that he would rather have gorgeous slackers who don't move the product [or lift a finger] working there than normal looking people who are really aren't that bad looking, but are A+ sellers and great at customer service. The real irony here is that he is no [looker], himself. He's asking for a class-action lawsuit and i hope that when it rains, it rains hard. Worst place to work, ever. This is happening at many stores across the country.

On a slightly related note, is Dov Charney the fashion world's Tony Victory?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Dec 2009, 08:51
That is actually true, he blamed the recession on ugly employees.

He is the best super villain ever.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 08:59
Adding yet another layer to the irony that surrounds literally every story about this guy is that the recession was in actual fact caused by rich+ugly old jewish guys with massive cocaine habits
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 02 Dec 2009, 09:40
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/2008_10_charney.jpg)
he is maybe charming in a "i will date rape the shit out of you" way i guess
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 02 Dec 2009, 09:42
Adding yet another layer to the irony that surrounds literally every story about this guy is that the recession was in actual fact caused by rich+ugly old jewish guys with massive cocaine habits

I have it on good authority that gentilles with cocaine habits were also involved.  Also, has it occurred to anyone that this thread might be slowly poisoning us.

When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Dec 2009, 09:47
I poke the abyss in the eye

it is super effective
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 02 Dec 2009, 09:49
When you poke the abyss in the eye, the abyss pokes back at you.

Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Dec 2009, 09:49
goddammit
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 10:00
Abyss rolls for initiative
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 02 Dec 2009, 10:27
He went to my highschool, I'm so proud.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Dec 2009, 11:14
Also, Tommy, all those quotes are making him charming stop it.

Quote
Fink: He recalled you wearing a sock on your penis while Ms. Nelson was in your home is that correct?

Charney: The product is called a [bleep] sock.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 02 Dec 2009, 11:15
Charney: The product is called a [bleep] sock.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ballard on 02 Dec 2009, 11:39
(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/08/summerscoming.JPG)

True story.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Dec 2009, 11:40
I want a [bleep] sock



I'll get my father a pair for christmas
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 02 Dec 2009, 11:43
True story.

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t239/SuperKat1981/macros/This_looks_shopped_rl.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Christophe on 02 Dec 2009, 11:54
On a slightly related note, is Dov Charney the fashion world's Tony Victory?

Not really. I mean, have you tried wanking it to a Hawthorne Heights CD?

*registers username David_Dov_Charney*

p.s.: there should be a law somewhere that when Tony Victory is mentioned in a forum, this photo (http://jawkdna.com/myspace/TONY.jpg) should be posted
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Dec 2009, 12:02
By all means start a Tony Brummel Photo Thread.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: phooey on 02 Dec 2009, 12:58
I think these comparisons re: Dov Charney = Eugene Hutz are really really un(fair/flattering) to Eugene Hutz. 
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: phooey on 02 Dec 2009, 13:04
(http://stereosneeze.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/eugenecute1.jpg)

They are un(fair/flattering) in that:

-If pressed comparatively larger number of the people who board here would have sex with Eugene Hutz and that statistically speaking, it is more likely to be consensual. 
-Eugene Hutz has Better clothes (?)
-Eugene Hutz has a Better accent (!)
-Eugene Hutz
-Eugene Hutz
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ballard on 02 Dec 2009, 13:13
Eugene Hutz is like the only remaining cool thing about being Russian, Polish, or Ukranian.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Dec 2009, 13:17
To clarify: This is not the Eugene Hutz Photo Thread either.

Please restrict your comments and photos to Mr Charney.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Eris on 02 Dec 2009, 13:25
Dov Charney looks more attractive when he doesn't have that terrible moustache.

But then he ruins it by wearing no pants.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 02 Dec 2009, 13:28
And by being a raging misogynist and probably a pervert.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 02 Dec 2009, 13:33
summer's coming

Hahaha I showed that to my bff and she just got ridiculously turned on.

AA MARKETING WORKS.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Allybee on 02 Dec 2009, 13:54
fun fact: charney is the nephew of super famous architect moshe safdie. here is safdie's holocaust museum/memorial, yad vashem, in jerusalem:

(http://archrecord.construction.com/projects/portfolio/archives/images/0507yadVashem.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 02 Dec 2009, 14:15
Zingo I think it is maybe because she is wearing a skin-coloured full body thing.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 02 Dec 2009, 17:10
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/2008_10_charney.jpg)

this is the way dov charney looks at you when he sees that the roofie he slipped into your drink is finally starting to kick in
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 02 Dec 2009, 19:49
God he has a nice ass.


Also, Tommy, all those quotes are making him charming stop it. Also, I hate it when people go,"the 'c' word'' ffff
It's because you're such a fuckin' nutter that I adore you so, andy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Dec 2009, 19:53
p.s.: there should be a law somewhere that when Tony Victory is mentioned in a forum, this photo (http://jawkdna.com/myspace/TONY.jpg) should be posted

Motion seconded
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 02 Dec 2009, 20:03
Well, I thought Dov Charney was just your average normal douche bag business owner. But I also was kinda urged to check out the site because sometimes they have interesting stuff. And then I saw this. (http://www.americanapparel.com/rsalwk.html?cid=721) WTF. Ugh seriously??? This dude should be castrated.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: sean on 02 Dec 2009, 21:52
now does he have an actual full first name or did his mother name him dov
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 02 Dec 2009, 22:17
Oooh Emaline you lead me to another good find (http://www.americanapparel.com/kelleyeg.html). Dang that is mean to your kids, like "you're gonna be a hipster and you're gonna like it!"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 02 Dec 2009, 23:06
I never understood the glasses fashion.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 02 Dec 2009, 23:09
Oh god it's everywhere now.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Der Golem on 03 Dec 2009, 15:52
Borderline breaking the no porn rule, I am going to post this american apparel ad (http://i.bnet.com/blogs/aadick494.jpg), in which a girl in nothing but her panties is actually licking the dick of a man (allegedly Dov himself) through his underwear.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 03 Dec 2009, 17:53
Well, I thought Dov Charney was just your average normal douche bag business owner. But I also was kinda urged to check out the site because sometimes they have interesting stuff. And then I saw this. (http://www.americanapparel.com/rsalwk.html?cid=721) WTF. Ugh seriously??? This dude should be castrated.

C'mon Emaline! I would have killed for an outfit like that when I was tiny and doing jazz ballet!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 03 Dec 2009, 19:30
Yeah to be honest some of their kids stuff is pretty cute and just reminds me of ads from the 80s.

Like, when I was a kid I wore velvet tracksuits, like, come on.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 03 Dec 2009, 19:50
My mom dressed my sister and I in matching neon-green Benetton sweatsuits.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 03 Dec 2009, 20:14
I'm pretty sure that your parents would not have wanted you dressed like that in pictures posted around the internet.

Maybe its because I know too many paranoid parents, but I just feel like dressing kids up like that and posting pictures is just kinda asking for it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 03 Dec 2009, 20:25
Yeah to be honest some of their kids stuff is pretty cute and just reminds me of ads from the 80s.

i think it's the similar sexually exploitative visual style of the photography more than the actual kid's outfits that hits sort of a gross uncomfortable spot for me -

(http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/8128/8128_03.jpg)

(http://i.americanapparel.net/storefront/images/detail/serve.asp?media=5195_Cranberry.jpg)

(http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/8153/8153_06.jpg)

(http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/4115/4115_01.jpg)

or maybe i'm just so repulsed by american apparel now that i find some way to make any image associated with them sexual even if it isn't. either way, dov charney should probably not make clothing for children.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: michaelicious on 03 Dec 2009, 20:30
My mom dressed my sister and I in matching neon-green Benetton sweatsuits.

When I was little my mom was super into sewing. She made matching outfits for my dad, my sister, and me. These outfits included purple t-shirts and GLOW IN THE DARK SHARK SHORTS. She also made bitchin' Animaniacs vests for me and my cousin.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 03 Dec 2009, 20:31
Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 03 Dec 2009, 20:53
Yeah to be honest some of their kids stuff is pretty cute and just reminds me of ads from the 80s.

i think it's the similar sexually exploitative visual style of the photography more than the actual kid's outfits that hits sort of a gross uncomfortable spot for me -

or maybe i'm just so repulsed by american apparel now that i find some way to make any image associated with them sexual even if it isn't. either way, dov charney should probably not make clothing for children.



This is exactly what I am saying.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: öde on 04 Dec 2009, 06:29
Yeah I think that a company largely famous for it's near-pornographic adverts should be pretty careful about how they advertise kids clothes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Dec 2009, 07:27
You'd also think that a CEO of a company largely famous for it's porno-like advertising would watch how he acts around female employees but noooope
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 07:54
You'd have thought James Bond villains would stop keeping barrels of explosives around their secret underground missile silos by now but they still haven't.

You just don't understand his commitment.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: snalin on 04 Dec 2009, 08:09
pagebreak made that funnier.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: MrSteevo on 04 Dec 2009, 08:14
I find it strange that he's proud of the fact that most his advertisements feature employees and not models; Then after showing a highly pornographic advertisement he proudly says HE took it, the perverted aspect grows when the ad is a girl under 18.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 09:13
As with a lot of the things I find darkly amusing, I am actually really interested in the AA phenomena. In no small part because I own a bunch of their clothes (basics are good, everything else is atrocious).

Personally I don't find the pictures of infants on the last page remotely sexually appealing and if you showed me those images with no prompting, it would not have occurred to me. It just looks like some pictures of children. To this day, I have never found images of children offensive because the notion of children as sexual simply doesn't seem to register in my mind. However, I suppose there is a chance that it does occur to other people, whereupon there is a question as to whether it is the advert or the observer who is the real problem. I don't actually know.

Likewise, it doesn't bother me particularly that his adverts are borderline pornographic because (although I strongly dislike pornography) I support the legality of pornography. However, the part where it gets really complex is the fact that he employs said women/men. That opens the door to all kinds of exploitation issues. This is further complicated by the fact that there genuinely will be people who would have no problem with participating in borderline pornographic advertising campaigns because they aren't offended by such things and don't feel exploited. I know men and women who are completely in touch with their sexuality and actively enjoy being observed or regarded in a sexual context. There's a possibility that AA adverts are entirely made using said people who would be completely offended by my reflexive assumptions. I am painfully aware of the fact that as a man, it is very easy for me to fall into the trap of subliminal sexism by dictating what a woman is or is not comfortable with doing.

Additionally, his semi-infamous campaigns he has instigated through his company to push through legislation or change policy in California (regarding gay marriage and immigration) are most likely influenced by money. Appearing hip to fashionable causes is most likely posturing in an attempt to appeal to their natural market of young, ostensibly politicised students and liberals. The factories which produce AA clothing are near enough entirely staffed by immigrants, legal and otherwise. However, who can sincerely claim ultimate altruism in any social upheaval? Politicians and lobbyists are invariably influenced by the almighty dollar, just like Charney. Thus, I can't entirely condemn him for such posturing, even though I absolutely distrust it.

Thus, I remain undecided. I know I don't like Dov Charney but I don't really know why. It's a lot of suspicion on my part, very little of which I can back up with genuine evidence.

He might be a pederast but he might not be.
He might be exploitative but he might not be.
He might be a pornographer but he might not be.

He is rich (and boy do I hate rich people overall) but he is such a genuinely comical figure that it actually makes me laugh. He's either picking at the holes of what we as a supposedly enlightened global society will allow or his notions and aspirations are a glimpse at a less puritanical future. Maybe he's both.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 04 Dec 2009, 09:44
I think the bottom line for me is all of the sexual harassment, because there is strong circumstantial evidence that he is insanely guilty of it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 10:07
Yeah, that's a fair point.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: snalin on 04 Dec 2009, 11:00
Looking through the stuff Emaline posted, this (http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/viewer.asp?style=rsalwk&n=Kids%20Acrylic%20Leg%20Warmer&p=1) is probably one of the things that's... well, pretty much a bit too suggestive. Imagine a grown woman in the same position with the same look on her face - let's see if we can find any other pictures on the site with a grown woman lying somewhat similar.

oh (http://americanapparel.net/gallery/photocollections/models/Sasha/) (NSFW)

If we ignore the fact that the amount of clothing is different, it's pretty much alike. And it even looks like the little girl is trying to copy the look of the woman.

... I'm not usually moralist, I'm pretty okay with H&M underwear commercials, but it's the kind of way they've positioned the girl that sends out images that's, in the framework of our culture, are pretty sexual. And we don't want to send out more signals to little girls that they need to be sexual to be successful, which seems to be the general idea among a lot of kids these days.

Am I rambling? I think I am.

bah.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 11:03
oh for crying out loud, talk about being oversensitized. That picture of the little girl could have come from Sears portrait studio.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 11:09
That picture of the little girl could have come from Sears portrait studio.

Maybe an Andrea Sears one.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 11:19
http://www.andreasears.com/ ?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 11:29
I guess that joke really relied on you knowing Andy's (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=15335) name.

However, I agree with your original comment. It just looks like a picture of a kid like you would see anywhere else.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 11:33
gis 'child gymnast'

LOOK AT THIS PERVERSION

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/5334133/2/istockphoto_5334133-little-child-gymnast.jpg)

CANT YOU SEE THE BEDROOM EYES

(http://www.summerfields-gymnastics.com/meshcms/meshcms/imgs/general/child-gymnast-FP.jpg)

OMG CALL THE COPS

(http://static-p4.fotolia.com/jpg/00/06/28/89/400_F_6288964_xIdnTBg4hETv1qrUnyjQ8pzDuEctC0Uz.jpg)

NOOOO ITS TOO LATE

(http://static-p4.fotolia.com/jpg/00/05/30/77/400_F_5307775_AFmHAnwK1tjXXDXJCjc1kjEKXUx3aOLb.jpg)

WAIT IS THIS THE SAME GIRL

(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4752140/2/istockphoto_4752140-little-child-gymnast.jpg)

SHES BEEN PERVERTED

(http://static-p3.fotolia.com/jpg/00/14/91/48/400_F_14914881_KQeeeeYk0LgcEDc1q63BzIQvSgllUJcf.jpg)

IS THIS PEDOPHILE CODE OR SOMETHING

(http://www.omega-gymnastics.com/images/inside_child_image.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 04 Dec 2009, 11:34
I can admit that I am overly sensitive when it comes to kids. But I also have 6 siblings under the age 11 and have lots of friends with kids. There was a point in time when I wanted to be an elementary school teacher. Basically, I care a lot about my kids, so I look out for kids. My mothering instinct tells me that those pictures are inappropiate.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 11:39
For clarification, by "those pictures" are you talking about the stock photos of little girls doing gymnastics?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: sean on 04 Dec 2009, 11:53
its the context of the photos.

gym photos are one thing. american apparel ads are different.

this is because i automatically assume dov charney is a bastard.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 04 Dec 2009, 12:20
a lot of it probably is in my head on account it is pretty hard not to feel sort of uncomfortable when a corporation infamous for its near-pornographic advertisements and constant sexual harassment on behalf of their CEO suddenly tries to get into the market for children's clothing. it's even weirder when you take into consideration that it is basically impossible to purchase said children's clothes without either going through the website or physically entering an american apparel store, both of which bombard you mercilessly with extremely sexually suggestive advertisements. i could be oversensitive but when i find myself suddenly staring at photos of children in underwear after about ten minutes of wandering through a store plastered with giant photographs of naked people deliberately photographed to mimic pornography... well, it's weird. context is definitely a massive part of it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 12:38
So really, it's not so much the pictures as the idea of American Apparel selling kids clothes. I can understand that, and frankly I concur that American Apparel just isn't a kids clothing brand; I certainly wouldn't want to see my kids shopping in their store. Just don't want to see you guys making the alarmist leap from "he's a sleazebag!" to "he's a pedophile!"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 04 Dec 2009, 13:16
Pedobag.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 13:58
They also sell clothes for dogs -

(http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/4905/4905_09.jpg)

So how about it. Does it make you want to fuck dogs? Personally I find this exactly as sexually suggestive as the adverts with children. Not at all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 14:03
I think brittany nailed it on the last page really, the worst thing I see about the childrens clothes at AA is that it enables jackass hipster parents to dress their charges in the exact same trendy clothes they are wearing, and the pet clothes are the same thing.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 04 Dec 2009, 14:04
oh (http://americanapparel.net/gallery/photocollections/models/Sasha/) (NSFW)

AA is so trashy they hire porn stars to wear their clothing?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 04 Dec 2009, 14:06
Sasha Grey sung on a Current 93 album.

Now I think AA are awesome.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 14:08
I think brittany nailed it on the last page really, the worst thing I see about the childrens clothes at AA is that it enables jackass hipster parents to dress their charges in the exact same trendy clothes they are wearing, and the pet clothes are the same thing.

So people might find this unfashionable or distasteful? That's quite a step down from pedophilia.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 04 Dec 2009, 14:16
hey man I've been saying I don't see why the kids clothes makes dov charney a pedophile. So yeah that was what I was getting at: the only problem I see is that it seems tacky and in poor taste, nothing more serious than that.

EDIT: oh wait are you thinking I was explaining why other people are offended by AA kids clothes? no no I was only explaining the relatively small extent that I have anything against their kids clothes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Dec 2009, 14:54
They also sell clothes for dogs -

(http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/4905/4905_09.jpg)

So how about it. Does it make you want to fuck dogs? Personally I find this exactly as sexually suggestive as the adverts with children. Not at all.

Tommy, look at his eyes, he is terrified Dov Charney will do something to him
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 04 Dec 2009, 18:48
Dangit Tommy


Sears jokes are the worst :c
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 04 Dec 2009, 19:37
Joseph Hocking, wait until you have children. Trust me.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 04 Dec 2009, 20:18
Not everyone becomes overbearing over protective censoring nutbags.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Dec 2009, 20:56
Joseph Hocking, wait until you have children. Trust me.

Sorry, not to make this unduly personal but I was not aware that you personally have children?

However, I do in fact have a daughter and my stance is the same as Joe Hocking's so I'd argue that it's irrelevant anyhow.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 04 Dec 2009, 20:59
Ah but would you ever allow your daughter to be left alone in a room with Dov Charney?

I DIDN'T THINK SO!

(I got nothin')
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 04 Dec 2009, 23:18
So what you're saying is that people who don't have children can still have relevant opinions on what is or isn't appropriate?

Fancy that.

I would also posit that those people who do have kids are probably not the best people to be deciding what is and isn't appropriate when it comes down to it as their opinions are often heavily skewed with overprotective and hysterical bias. That's just me though.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 04 Dec 2009, 23:29
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2886177916_f14e58f98e.jpg)

Not enough Dov Charney in this here Dov Charney Photo Thread.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 04 Dec 2009, 23:39
Not to sound like an ass, or make this personal, Tommy, but are you super involved in her life? Which, once again, I'm not trying to sound like an ass or anything like that or accuse you of bad parenting or what have you. But there is a difference between spawning children and raising them. And I understand that sometimes there are situations that call you a parent to be unattached from their child's life. Which is not what I am saying you are doing, you just seem to live quite the life of a bachelor and I was unaware you had a kid.


And no, I do not have kids myself, but I am highly involved in the lives of my younger siblings to the point where I, and all my friends/coworkers/etc, call them my kids. My parents are a bit unattached with my siblings so I do what I can for them. My boyfriend and I have sort of become a second set of parents to them.

That being said, I feel like once you are super involved in a child's life you sort of catch on to a number of things that you wouldn't have realized without them. Were it not for my siblings, I probably would have disregarded those photos. But being involved in their lives like I am, I would not feel it was appropite for photos of them like that to be posted online. My kids also run around in their undies all the time, as I did when I was a kid, and we have regular old family photos of them as such, but I wouldn't post them online for a bunch of strangers to see. Basically, what I see as a bunch of silly kids making cupcakes in their nunderwear, a complete creepy stranger could see something else, and I'd rather not allow my kids to be seen in that light. I'd rather not give someone the opportunity to use those pictures in inappropriate ways.

I also feel like its possible that my "over-protective mothering" is kicking in when I see those photos and that may also be why I find them inappropite.


So, to each their own, I suppose.


Also, Tommy, I want to make sure you realize I am not trying to insult you when I ask if you are involved in your daughter's life. Like I said, I understand their are circumstances where things like that aren't possible, and that's totally cool and fine and dandy. But I also feel like your perspective completely changes once you are involved in a child's life, and that there is a difference in birthing a child and raising one.


ETA: I wasn't trying to insult you either, Joe. I'm just saying, things do change when you have kids.


Also, Jimmy, could you explain further why you feel that way? I mean, chances are they are being over-protective and bias for a reason.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 04 Dec 2009, 23:42
I'm not entirely sure Tommy'd let himself be in a room alone with Dov Charney.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/dovcharney.jpg)
I mean, come on.

Also I found his fllickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dovcharney/). Here he is as a kid! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dovcharney/3093619274/) awww! he kind of looks like the boy from ugly betty in this particular picture.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 00:47
But there is a difference between spawning children and raising them.

Okay! I will commit this to memory.

And no, I do not have kids myself

Apparently there is a difference between spawning children and raising them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 05 Dec 2009, 00:49
Obviously, you aren't getting what I am saying.


There is a difference between making a kid, and actually raising a kid.

There are plenty of people who have kids, and don't take an active part in their lives.

There are also plenty of people who have active roles in children's lives, and raise those kids, and care for them, and look out for them, etc.


Does this make sense?


Look, Tommy, I am trying to be as civil about this as I can possibly be. I don't mean to insult anyone here, and am actually interested in having this discussion. So maybe we can try to keep it that way? I'm not trying to insult you. I don't know your situation and was trying to put myself in your shoes to see your point of view. Like I said, there is nothing wrong with not being part of someone's life, if this is the case. One of my best friend's has two children, one he sees just about every weekend, and one he has never even met. The latter situation calls for it. He was not around for the birth(and had at this point moved out of the state), and soon after the mother moved on and the child has been raised with a different father. It's be strange for him to show up in the kid's life now and be all "btws I'm your real dad." The kid has a family and a father, and that is all fine and dandy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 05 Dec 2009, 00:57
I'm trying.



Basically, I am saying "I feel this way, and here is why." And then I'm getting responses that are, on some part, "Oh you are just over sensitive!" Well, why? Tell me what you think, people!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 05 Dec 2009, 01:01
Just to clarify I don't think that the over-protectiveness is not vaild, I have just noticed that parents and carers of children can be a little be alarmist when it comes to things involving kids in general.

For instance, and I know this is a different argument but bear (or is it bare?) with me, when I was in uni I did a lot of research on sexual disorders and the treatment thereof, specifically sexual aggressive disorder and paedophilia. When talking to parents and carers a lot of them tended to advocate more drastic and often punitive measures like chemical or physical castration and even life imprisonment/death penalty (this is not to say that such measures are inappropriate in some cases but I wouldn't recommend them) whereas people without children whom one can assume have less of a personal stake in the matter tend to advocate things like rehabilitation and therapy (aversion therapy, extinction therapy, various CBT stuff etc...). It is my belief that parents/carers, having more of an emotional connection to the issue are not able to disconnect and make an impartial judgement. Now obviously paedophilia is a ways away from the issue we're discussing here but I'm just saying that I've noticed a tendency for parents/carers and (in this case) really involved siblings of young children to be more reactionary in their opinions in matters like these.

All that said, while I, like Tommy and Joe, do not see these pictures as sexually charged images, I am more than aware of their capacity to be viewed as such however I do not believe in the neccessity of censorship of such images as they are.

God I hope that was readable. It's been a while since I've been asked to justify my crackpot viewpoints and also I'm at work and trying to be all supervisory (it's my first night being supervisor, I'm dressed as a pirate, everyone has to call me Cap'n).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 05 Dec 2009, 01:18
*snip*various CBT stuff*snip*

Please tell me what this stands for because all I can think of is "cock and ball torture"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 05 Dec 2009, 01:21
Oh, uh Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. Getting people to rearrange their thought patterns, man! Look at the world a whole different way! It helps you read those two sentences as if you were Keanu Reeves in Bill & Ted. Helps me anyway.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 05 Dec 2009, 01:22
It was completely readable.


And I understand what you mean now. And just to clarify, I don't actually think dude should be castrated for those pictures, but I think that particular post did show how angry/disappointed/upset/etc I was to see such pictures. I lived with a "registered sex offender" and I am all for rehabilitation, and therapy. On that note however, I do agree still with the whole registering and everything. I mean, yeah, it does seem a cruel that no matter what happens/happened in this person's life they have to basically announce to the world that yes that committed to some sort of illegal sexual act. But once again, overbearing mothering protectiveness instinct kicks in and I'm like "fuck yes I want to know if a sex offender lives on my street." And yeah, it might be considered a flaw that I'm going to be more aware of things around them, but ......basically I can't justify it without sounding incredibly overly cautious and a bit offensive. I guess, I'd just prefer to be better safe than sorry.  :|
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Dec 2009, 01:23
So we have people with opposite views of those images.  But they do not exist in isolation; what we have to remember is that innocent images can be used in an exploitative manner or situation - that is what we need to be watching out for.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 02:33
Look, Tommy, I am trying to be as civil about this as I can possibly be. I don't mean to insult anyone here, and am actually interested in having this discussion.

You can't offend me. I do not get offended! This is not a thing you need to be concerned about because I am completely detached from online discussions. I was pointing out that you were having your cake and eating it with the kids issue. My point was that our opinion is of equal weight regardless of kids. You can claim to want a discussion but if you're also telling us that our opinion isn't as valid as yours because you "have" kids then it doesn't really matter what we say to you. Until we have kids you can always use the same argument. It's a technique of debate I do not find especially compelling. Think how it can be used to discard borderline anything as long as there are differences between you and the person taking an opposing view.

With regards to why personal experience doesn't always give one the mandate - Think about a murder trial, for example. The jury doesn't consist of the family and friends of the victim or people who have had relatives murdered, it's an impartial group completely disconnected from the people involved. This is to avoid undue bias towards or against the defendant etc.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BrittanyMarie on 05 Dec 2009, 02:54
 :x

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/3093619432_508599d4dc.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/3093619200_d294afe751.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/3093619122_a79e49fb4e.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/dov-charney-20040800complex.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/canadians-in-usa-dov-charney.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/BrittanyMarie/Dov-Charney.jpg)
 :x
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 03:02
I'm so bummed that I can't replicate his facial hair. My beard just doesn't grow high enough on my face.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 05 Dec 2009, 09:43
I think that with kids, and the whole, better be safe than sorry. Is the worst measure to go about it. Undue over protectiveness is often pretty detrimental. I really think people need to stop being so overprotective with children, kids are getting more and more fearful and unable to adapt as time goes on and I believe that mostly has to do with parents who, although it is in their best intentions, are overprotective and basically teach their kids to be afraid of everything by doing so..
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Dec 2009, 10:04
Also, Jimmy, could you explain further why you feel that way? I mean, chances are they are being over-protective and bias for a reason.

Well sure there's a reason, there's always a reason for everything, but that doesn't mean it's a sensible reason. To use an example from outside this discussion, notice how there are tons of people who refuse to vaccinate their kids because they believe the vaccine is worse than the disease it protects against? Talk about being protective about the wrong thing.

Or how about all the people who shout about videogames turning kids into murderers? no bias at all

Or hell how about all the people who insist on putting Halloween candy through x-rays because of all the deadly razors in Halloween candy? (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/poison/halloween.asp)

---

One story my one sister and I like to tell is about how when she and I were kids in Korea we would cross multiple streets every day to get to the schoolbus, and mom didn't care if we went by ourselves to the arcade or shops or whatever. This was in the middle of Seoul, one of the most populous cities in the world. Meanwhile, once we moved to a tiny suburb in Connecticut my youngest sister (I have two sisters) she only had to go to the end of our driveway to get to the schoolbus, and mom would still insist on waiting in the car with her. Parents in this country are a little crazy, and it infected our mom.

(incidentally, the cover story of Time magazine a couple weeks ago was to decry overparenting, so maybe just maybe some of this is finally going to calm down)

ADDITION: My fiancee is sometimes bothered by me posting pictures of her in my Facebook photo album, so she and I will definitely have different views of protectiveness when we have kids. I forsee arguments over this very issue.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 05 Dec 2009, 10:27
I think a good way to look at kids is to look at how immune systems work actually.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Dec 2009, 10:31
Someone once told me that if you help a chick out of it's shell while it hatches it will die because the strength it gains by pecking its way out is crucial to its survival.

I have no idea if that's true, but it sure makes a neat metaphor.

EDIT: That was off-topic, this post is closer but still off-topic -

I didn't realize this, it makes me feel better about my highschool:
http://gawker.com/254875/why-was-dov-charney-expelled-from-choate
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 05 Dec 2009, 12:25
So you guys are saying that I should totally let that sex offender give me kids rides home from school? Or let the photographer who is well known for his sexual images take pictures of my kids? Extreme analogies, I realize, but you guys are saying that I'm taking away my kids strength by being overprotective.


Look, I'm saying that when it comes to some things, it is better to be safe than sorry. I don't baby my kids. I took them to this huge oversized indoor playground recently(the st. Louis city museum), and let them run around freely as long as they stayed together. I'm not making them all wear jumpsuits of the same color, or make sure they are constantly within ten feet of me.

And I'm not saying your opinions are invalid. I'm saying that you may say these things now, but your perspective does change when you have kids, as it often does for other major events in your life. Right now, I say that I am anti getting my kids shots, and pro breastfeeding, and cloth diapers, but when it comes down to those things actually being up to me, am I going to do it?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 12:39
Well, then.  Saying that our opinions may change in the future is absolutely meaningless, especially when we've agreed that the opinions of parents are no more valid than those of non-parents.

Also, extreme analogies are terrible arguments when it's not a black and white issue.  It's not an issue of let your kids do whatever they want or don't let them do anything.  Clearly, it's an issue of where to draw the line.  Would you allow a photographer well known for images that help sell clothing take pictures of your kids?  I'm not decrying what you said as false, because it's not.  It's also not quite as simple as him presenting sexual images for their own sake.  Maybe he's just using it as an excuse, but maybe he's just a canny marketer as well as being a world-class pervert.

It should be noted that I'm not taking one position or the other (I haven't quite made up my mind yet).  I'm just pointing out what I saw to be a vastly flawed argument.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 12:44
So you guys are saying that I should totally let that sex offender give me kids rides home from school?

No, I don't believe anyone is saying that.

Or let the photographer who is well known for his sexual images take pictures of my kids?

Well, obviously you wouldn't and that would be up to you. However, the existence of those photos of kids in AA gear suggests there are some parents who don't care and thus, the notion that having kids would alter anyone's perspective is null. I mean there really is little to no chance that Dov Charney took those pictures anyhow. It was probably just a random photographer.

The argument is sort of sidetracked here. The point originally was that some people think those images were of a sexual nature and some of us don't. Personally I think they were about as sexual as the picture of the dog in an AA jersey I posted. I mean it's a kid in some clothes. I see mainstream adverts for thousands of household products which use naked kids or kids in diapers. I don't understand how it's sexually provocative because I don't really understand how exactly children are considered to be sexual in any way. I guess they are to an absolute minority but chances are there's somebody out there who finds borderline everything to be sexually stimulating so it's a difficult problem to address.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Dec 2009, 12:53
So you guys are saying that I should totally let that sex offender give me kids rides home from school? Or let the photographer who is well known for his sexual images take pictures of my kids?

I don't recall saying either of these things. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)

The first question is so totally unrelated to anything anyone has said, I really don't even see where you came up with that. The second question though, since we have been talking about Dov Charney's photographs I can see how you might have gotten that issue mixed up in there. Thing is, the way you've worded it is subtly aggressive in a misleading way. Specifically, nobody is saying you should do that, just that we don't think it's warranted to be outraged over other people having gotten some pictures of their kids taken.

The pictures themselves don't depict anything sexual, so the only thing I can think of to explain your outrage is that you assume the kids were molested off-camera or something, and that is a huge accusation to make when your only evidence is "the guy's a sleazebag!"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 12:56
Don't you mean:

Pedobag.
?

Perhaps not.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 05 Dec 2009, 13:13
Guys let's get back to Dov Charney (http://jezebel.com/5052969/american-apparels-dov-charney-explains-it-all-for-you-on-snl).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Dec 2009, 13:26
That was pretty good but it's telling how little they had to exaggerate.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Dec 2009, 13:33
kinda reminds me of the sarah palin impressions in that sense
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 13:38
Dov Charney

Who?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Dec 2009, 14:00
when she and I were kids in Korea we would cross multiple streets every day to get to the schoolbus,

I was sent to my pre-school at the age of five by bus,  in Reading, near London; two stops, on an ordinary bus, not a school bus.  The worst that happened was that once some boys from a nearby secondary school pinched my school cap (it was recovered).  At six, for my next school, I had a journey by public bus to the other side of town, about twenty minutes. 

Admittedly, I didn't do quite the same for my kids, though one once skipped out of school at lunchtime at the age of six and walked a mile or so home for lunch - "I thought you might be lonely, mummy".
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Dec 2009, 14:20
interview at 14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcjXS2akfq8)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Dec 2009, 15:15
this isn't a parenting issue this is about a company's entire semiotic language
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Eris on 05 Dec 2009, 17:24
Emaline, why are you anti-immunisation? I never really understood that whole stance.

Also, I kinda want to bring up the whole Bill Henson thing when talking about overparenting (though it was more other people saying how the actual parents should be doing their job), but it doesn't really have anything o do with this conversation. I just like talking about how people are stupid and overreact a lot.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Joseph on 05 Dec 2009, 17:34
I have to second Eris' immunisation question.  I'd be really interested to hear why, as it seems in direct contradiction with everything else you're saying, Emaline.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 05 Dec 2009, 17:36
Maybe she meant shots of tequila.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Dec 2009, 17:40
Maybe she meant shots of DOV'S CHOCOLATE STARFISH.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 05 Dec 2009, 17:43
I like how you're trying to keep things on topic.  Do you ever wonder if your anal fixation is a consequence of being vaccinated as a child?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Dec 2009, 17:46
I have always recieved a full assortment of vaccinations, both when my healthcare was decided by my parents and when it was decided by me.

I have not had Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningitis C, Polio or Smallpox.

I have had anal both ways though.

I don't know what science thinks about this.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Joseph on 05 Dec 2009, 17:46
Sasha Grey sung on a Current 93 album.

If there was a video of Sasha Grey having sex with Dov Charney with a Current 93 soundtrack, would you watch it?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Joseph on 05 Dec 2009, 17:50
But say David Tibet composed the music specifically to function as a soundtrack?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Dec 2009, 17:53
David Tibet can never do anything bad.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 05 Dec 2009, 17:54
Except the original version of Twilight Twilight Nihil Nihil which almost ruins All The Pretty Little Horses
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 22:27
I have had anal both ways though.

With and without lube?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 06 Dec 2009, 13:22
(http://overcompensating.com/comics/notdov.png)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: GenericName on 06 Dec 2009, 15:41
Then there's
(http://overcompensating.com/comics/fair.png)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Dec 2009, 16:38
Hey, hey! I read those comics a long ass time ago. I just now got them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 07 Dec 2009, 00:15
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9391/dovbot.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 07 Dec 2009, 01:55
Oh look, it's that guy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: glyphic on 07 Dec 2009, 10:28
To continue the threadjack:

www.stopjenny.com (http://www.stopjenny.com)

Correlation, friends, does not equal causation.

On topic,  Dov Charney looks like a cartoon biker. He's all tearing up the landscape on his dad's Harley and ditching school to smoke cigarettes with an anthropomorphic bear. He makes real life look fake.



Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: iamiam on 10 Dec 2009, 09:46
dov charney:

i'd tape his mouth shut

(http://i.cnn.net/money/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/02/19/8400171/charney.03.jpg)

& then i'd hit it
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pilsner on 10 Dec 2009, 09:51
Sexually, or with a 4 iron?  This is an important distinction.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 10 Dec 2009, 10:45
Mai, being the detestable person she is, would probably hit it sexually.

But when you get down to your heart of hearts, wouldn't you hit it too?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 10 Dec 2009, 11:24
Yeah, but not the one with the facial hair. The clean shaven it, that one.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 10 Dec 2009, 11:26
But when you get down to your heart of hearts, wouldn't you hit it too?

With a broadside.

I would open up with chainshot from the eight pounders, try and bring his moustache down. Then I would clear his decks wth grapeshot and send in the marines.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 11:36
ITT: we learn that sex with Khar is an adventure on par with Robert Louis Stevenson novels
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 10 Dec 2009, 11:53
Khar is the Master and Commander. A perverted naval gladiator.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Dec 2009, 20:19
Moar liek Hornblower amirite
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: BlahBlah on 01 Feb 2010, 13:41
http://i.americanapparel.net/storefront/UGCStyle/BestBottom2010/index.asp

Dov is just searching for a soulmate.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 01 Feb 2010, 13:47
Good lord I feel like a perverted stalker Dov Charney after clicking that link.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Feb 2010, 14:43
Paging Andrea to this thread.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 01 Feb 2010, 14:47
I just need to get some American Apparel undies, and I could totally win this!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Liz on 01 Feb 2010, 15:15
I actually own a pair of American Apparel undies. I am perhaps a little ashamed. (My butt, however, is nowhere near good enough to win nor would I want to.)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Feb 2010, 15:19
AA undies are really great for the most part.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 01 Feb 2010, 15:19
man i have like twenty thousand pairs of those stupid american apparel boy briefs, maybe i should go for it
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 01 Feb 2010, 15:23
oh wow nevermind upon actually clicking the link my bottom is nowhere near as nice as any of those naked thong ladies

i guess this is goodbye dov charney. i'm beautiful on the inside... maybe once day you will give me another chance. :(
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 01 Feb 2010, 15:27
oh cripes sorry for posting three times in a row but you all need to click that link if only because the comments are utterly delightful -

Quote
I have studied photoshop for years, and this is not shopped. A simply perfect ass. Well done.

that's right. i'm an expert. i've studied photoshop and asses for years. no, don't ask me what my job is, just trust me, i know a shopped ass when i see one.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Feb 2010, 15:32
I was about to defend yr bottom but then I actually clicked that link and woah those are some seriously insane asses.

I had to close the window pretty much immediately for my own safety.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 01 Feb 2010, 15:34
So, I mentioned this to my mom, and joked that I should join, and she just told me that I should and could actually maybe win. I then told my boyfriend, and he is all detailing why I'd win, and how I have a really good chance and should do it. Uh...yay? I guess.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 01 Feb 2010, 15:44
let's all post our asses
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 01 Feb 2010, 15:44
on that website i mean
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: I Am Not Amused on 01 Feb 2010, 19:49
Let's not pretend that looking at girls willingly showing their very nice bottoms is perverted. It is simply human nature. OMG I AM A GUY AND AM ATTRACTED TO NAKED WOMENZ GUYZ I AM A PERV>

Also seeing the porn stars in the AA ads on the Interwubs is really fucking distracting. Like "Wow, it's weird to see her with clothes on" distracting.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 01 Feb 2010, 20:12
Kinda surprised you're not judging this, Tommy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: nobo on 01 Feb 2010, 20:17
A challenger approaches:
:P

I totally have a picture of myself in a manthong, but I kinda don't want it floating around on the interweb.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 01 Feb 2010, 23:57
I had to close the window pretty much immediately for my own safety.

Seconded. Sir Mix-A-Lot would shit plutonium rods if he saw that page.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: iamiam on 02 Feb 2010, 06:43
this competition sort of breaks my heart because my butt will never be that nice :(

what's the point in living if i can't even have a nice butt?!??
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 02 Feb 2010, 06:46
Let's not pretend that looking at girls willingly showing their very nice bottoms is perverted. It is simply human nature. OMG I AM A GUY AND AM ATTRACTED TO NAKED WOMENZ GUYZ I AM A PERV>

It's not that it's perverted to think those pics are hot. It's pervy for AA to be running that contest. Remember the context: you're not on maxim.com, you're at the website of a clothing store.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: elizaknowswhatshesfor on 02 Feb 2010, 07:11
Dov is not as much of a hipster as he thought: http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/nsfw-gavin-wins-hipster-of-the-decade/ (http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/nsfw-gavin-wins-hipster-of-the-decade/)

I love my ass, as does my boy. But it would not win any AA prizes as it is big & wobbly. I have more butt than all the entraints.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Feb 2010, 10:12
what's the point in living if i can't even have a nice butt?!??

AA will be running a tits contest next year no doubt.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 02 Feb 2010, 13:27
We'll all participate, no doubt.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Feb 2010, 13:43
Wait, Andrea will win that one too.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 02 Feb 2010, 13:49
Well thanks for the encouragement, mate :(
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 02 Feb 2010, 14:13
what's the point in living if i can't even have a nice butt?!??

AA will be running a tits contest next year no doubt.

She can send in pictures from your Chicagocon flickr stream.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 02 Feb 2010, 19:21
iceburn.gif
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 04 Feb 2010, 17:57
That picture of the little girl could have come from Sears portrait studio.

Maybe an Andrea Sears one.

and

Moar liek Hornblower amirite

Those comments made me laugh my ass off.  Dov Charney is a beast of a man. Honestly, if he and Gavin McInnes fought to the death, I would hero worship whichever one survived.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ballard on 19 Feb 2010, 14:43
I can't believe I just watched Gavin McInnes piss in a bowl of corn flakes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 19 Feb 2010, 16:00
That was so fucking awesome! St. Carnage rocks
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 02 Mar 2010, 12:41
And the winner is

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9782/340x03022010aabestass.jpg)

Gotta admit, that is an awesome ass.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: glyphic on 02 Mar 2010, 13:44
i just sent my thumb down to the bone

Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jace on 02 Mar 2010, 14:13
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1808/datasso.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 02 Mar 2010, 14:24
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/phyrexianmeatdog/wouldnothititstudman69.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Mar 2010, 14:52
And the winner is

(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9782/340x03022010aabestass.jpg)

Gotta admit, that is an awesome ass.

It just occurred to me that maybe there is a God after all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 02 Mar 2010, 15:47
Good God, man. I wouldn't maybe switch over to religion here, but I'd at least admit something along the lines of the pinnacle of evolution.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 02 Mar 2010, 18:13
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4150/mt169083247.jpg)

JESUS CHRIST!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 02 Mar 2010, 18:41
Actually I don't like it that much, I like the runner up way more. But I ain't much for big thick asses. But it is pretty great. I'm just saying, for the 'best ass' title, I would go for something else. But when I saw it I was like,"Damn, Sam would be on that like SNAP"

Also, Tommy, stop it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 02 Mar 2010, 18:44
Are you saying that because you are the runner-up Andy?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 02 Mar 2010, 18:50
Man, I wish.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 02 Mar 2010, 18:51
Wait maybe I don't.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 02 Mar 2010, 19:08
After checking the top 5 submissions, I must admit that Andy is right. Runner-up has a nicer butt.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 02 Mar 2010, 19:13
Maybe I am not the expert on asses but they look pretty ok. What criteria do you work on anyway?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 02 Mar 2010, 19:15
"this ass is supremely squishable with out getting that cottage cheese effect. A+"

"A BIRTHMARK! I loath birthmarks on my asses."
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 02 Mar 2010, 19:18
That is basically it, yes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Mar 2010, 19:19
The criteria is would I be given several consecutive life sentences if left to my own devices with said posteriors.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 02 Mar 2010, 19:28
That's a bit broad.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 02 Mar 2010, 19:29
My rating criteria is based around how many laws I would be willing to break to get to the ass in question.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 02 Mar 2010, 19:34
I am talking about not just throwing away the key but actually throwing away all keys and then denying that keys ever existed just in case.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 02 Mar 2010, 19:59
The criteria is would I be given several consecutive life sentences if left to my own devices with said posteriors.

Tommys ideal ass is one he just buried in a shallow grave on the Yorkshire moors.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 02 Mar 2010, 21:34
First runner-up did not impress me near as much as the winner or even the second runner-up.

Tommy, would they melt the key (and any copies) and turn it into another bar to keep you in your cell is that what's would happen
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 02 Mar 2010, 21:39
Yeah 3rd place was definitely way better than 2nd, but then again 2nd was in the standard callgirl pose so that probably gave her a decided advantage

Honestly I wish these ladies had the balls to take the picture directly from the back so you could see how the ass fits in with the lower back and thighs, which should be equally attractive if the donk is "all that"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 02 Mar 2010, 21:52
If the ladies had balls, they probably would take the pictures directly from the back.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 02 Mar 2010, 23:23
hurr hurr durrrrrr
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 03 Mar 2010, 11:47
Yeah 3rd place was definitely way better than 2nd, but then again 2nd was in the standard callgirl pose so that probably gave her a decided advantage

Honestly I wish these ladies had the balls to take the picture directly from the back so you could see how the ass fits in with the lower back and thighs, which should be equally attractive if the donk is "all that"


Yeah, me and my boyfriend had a problem with them all pushing their butts out. It's like, if your ass is so great, why do you need to push it out like that? Just let it do its thing.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 03 Mar 2010, 23:03
Yeah that is why the winner was my favorite out of all the ones on the top page. Wasn't all bending over to try to be all "Oh yeah goin' for the sexy pose vote" it was more just serious business "this is my ass, I think it is pretty nice, do you think it is nice" kinda straightforwardness. That is probably why it won, in fact.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 04 Mar 2010, 02:07
That is probably why it won, in fact.

Yes, I am sure that was in many peoples minds when they cast their votes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 04 Mar 2010, 03:21
I know what was in their hands  :-)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 04 Mar 2010, 05:42
I'd suggest it was their mouse.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 04 Mar 2010, 06:33
and then when they voted they pushed the left-click button with their penises
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 04 Mar 2010, 06:34
did i do it right
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 04 Mar 2010, 06:46
I give you an A for the effort but a D for originality.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 04 Mar 2010, 06:50
Oh no, let's give you a mark like in the Olympics.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 04 Mar 2010, 06:50
The Olympics of Butt, hehe.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Mar 2010, 09:04
I give you an A for the effort but a D for originality.

She has a really sweet ass though, we should bump her to a B in the spirit of the thread.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Mar 2010, 09:08
I like how this thread has turned from "Hey this dude is a skeevy-ass pervert" to "oh damn dat ass, I wanna put dick on that ass"

Good show, guys.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 04 Mar 2010, 09:11
I think that's appropriate, we were discussing the relationship between acceptable sexuality and exploitation.

I'm fascinated by the subject and also, all about the rude bottoms.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 04 Mar 2010, 09:15
No, it's cool. It's interesting. It's a nice thesis on the male psyche all being intellectual and rational about sex until that little part of the brain is activated then it's all boners and slobber.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 04 Mar 2010, 09:16
Moral of this story is there is a little Dov Charney in all of us and a lot of Dov Charney in some American Apparel employees (butts)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 04 Mar 2010, 10:14
Amen.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 05 Mar 2010, 01:24
Hey that guy made a pun

Hey I saw what you did there
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 05 Mar 2010, 05:13
I like how this thread has turned from "Hey this dude is a skeevy-ass pervert" to "oh damn dat ass, I wanna put dick on that ass"

Hey, this is pretty much exactly what I was thinking about saying earlier today.  Like, I can see both sides of this.  On the one hand Dov Charney is a fucking douche who sexually harasses his employees and probably shouldn't be running this kind of competition in order to find potential new employees, y'know?

But on the other hand, butts.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 05 Mar 2010, 06:18
Yeah 3rd place was definitely way better than 2nd, but then again 2nd was in the standard callgirl pose so that probably gave her a decided advantage

Third place lives in Chicago. That could have been a fun activity at Chicagocon: Quest for the Golden Ass.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 05 Mar 2010, 07:25
Creepy
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 05 Mar 2010, 08:19
But in the other hand, butts.
fyp
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 05 Mar 2010, 08:20
LOLOLOLOL IM SO FUNNY
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 05 Mar 2010, 14:48
Not really.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 05 Mar 2010, 14:49
Oh no, somebody noticed.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 05 Mar 2010, 14:53
The nerve!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 05 Mar 2010, 14:54
Quick! To the Dov Charney cave!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 05 Mar 2010, 14:57
I am NOT setting foot in that man's cave.

no way, no how
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 05 Mar 2010, 15:00
Too much sticky white fluid dripping from the walls
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 05 Mar 2010, 15:03
She has a really sweet ass though

whoa wait was that an actual real life compliment? don't you mean i'm fat? or stupid? anything?

oh my god you're not the real tommy
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 05 Mar 2010, 15:05
"Sweet ass" here refers to crippling syphilis.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 05 Mar 2010, 15:07
phew, thanks man
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scandanavian War Machine on 05 Mar 2010, 15:22
that was a close one
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Mar 2010, 16:02
whoa wait was that an actual real life compliment? don't you mean i'm fat? or stupid? anything?

Are you saying fat and stupid people can't have nice bottoms?

The nerve of it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 05 Mar 2010, 22:46
Whoa dude when did anybody mention yo mama I ain't see no mention of yo mama up in this thread
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 05 Mar 2010, 23:47
Its like, as long as Tommy is slightly pervier than me, I get a pass on anything I say
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 06 Mar 2010, 12:36
Honestly, I wouldn't push that considering for the most part I'm not actually sure most people know you particularly well.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Chesire Cat on 06 Mar 2010, 15:31
Actually that really raises a good point. If I cant be my normal (generally well-liked) self here, why am I here.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 06 Mar 2010, 22:11
(http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-iiam.gif)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KickThatBathProf on 06 Mar 2010, 22:14
Classic.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Mar 2010, 23:59
(http://employment.americanapparel.net/presscenter/articles/images/20060428npr1.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 07 Mar 2010, 06:37
(http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2008/11/20081112_abuserofscantilycladwomen_250x375.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 07 Mar 2010, 06:54
(http://www.thatsplenty.com/images/japaneseinvasion.jpg)

it is an advertisement for clothing
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Mar 2010, 09:21
I guess it is more an advertisement for a company/brand/store in this case but it is definitely not an advertisement for butts/sideboob so the semantics probably aren't that important hm
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 07 Mar 2010, 14:04
(Meebo inside joke)

thank god I'm not attracted to forearms

(/Meebo inside joke)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 07 Mar 2010, 23:45
don't you inside joke about me goddammit
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Mar 2010, 18:35
I don't know if anyone's posted this before, but "panty fitting meeting (http://fleshbot.com/5489223/do-you-remember-the-first-time-american-apparel-went-dirty)" (NSFW)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 10 Mar 2010, 18:33
I clicked on that at work just to see how bad it would be.
I live life in the DANGER ZONE.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 11 Mar 2010, 00:24
Reading this thread at work is the danger zone.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 11 Mar 2010, 04:42
Unless you work at American Apparel.

EDIT: incidentally I own one American Apparel t-shirt, which is one of my favourite t-shirts and certainly my most comfortable. It's a Broken Social Scene t-shirt which I bought at a gig of theirs in Melbourne the last time they toured Australia. It's green with the words

BROKEN
SOCIAL
SCENE

printed in large white letters on the front, and the last couple of letters of the word "broken" are shattering into a flight of birds rising up towards the left shoulder.

I didn't realise it was an American Apparel t-shirt until after I'd bought it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 11 Mar 2010, 05:00
I own a handful of American Apparel t-shirts for a similar reason - I noticed that all my most comfortable t-shirts were ones I'd bought from bands at gigs, and then realised they were all made by AA. So I ended up buying a few plain ones from them. I feel a little uncomfortable about that in retrospect, now I know more about the company/Dov Charney.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Mar 2010, 05:26
I'm just about ready to forsake all other T-shirts in the name of AA ringers, because they are just that damn nice on my body. I really wish AA wasn't so dedicated to being creepy because pretty everything they make that don't involve the words "lace" or "bodysuit" are pretty damn solid.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Metope on 11 Mar 2010, 05:59
I have so many basic (and not so basic) clothes from aa it's ridiculous, my all time favorite is probably this top (http://store.americanapparel.net/6364.html?cid=29) which I have in many different colours and that I wear almost every day because they fit me so well and are super soft.

While trying to find the link to post here I noticed that they moved it from the 'tank tops' section to the 'dresses' section. Awesome.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: michaelicious on 11 Mar 2010, 06:02
So.. what the fuck does "baby rib" mean?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: redglasscurls on 11 Mar 2010, 06:16
Like a mens undershirt, but the ribbing is smaller and closer together so it doesn't go as sheer when it stretches tight.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Mar 2010, 06:29
I have one AA shirt. It's from Boy on a Stick and Slither (http://www.boasas.com) which is a terrible webcomic I used to read. It has a picture of a rocket with the words "Recent studies suggest humans will kill everything" underneath it. It's really cool but I can't wear it anymore because AAs sizing is so small that even though I bought it in large it never really fit me right. I'm like 20kg heavier than I was when I bought it so I can barely even look at it any more without it stretching. One day when I've lost enough weight I'll wear it again.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 11 Mar 2010, 06:48
i used to have a lot of AA clothing and lately i have been trying very hard to stop purchasing from them altogether and stick to alternative apparel (http://www.alternativeapparel.com/Consumer.aspx) instead for my blank clothing needs. however, the one thing i haven't been able to find a substitute for yet are their boy briefs (http://i.americanapparel.net/storefront/images/detail/serve.asp?media=8315_Black_White.jpg) (safe for work i promise), which i own at least 10 pairs of by this point and they are still the most comfortable and well made underwear i have ever purchased. it's really frustrating because i hate the way AA runs their business so much and i would love to give my business to someone else a bit more ethical but i haven't actually found anyone yet who provides an underwear substitute i am happy with and it's not like i can just stop wearing underwear altogether or something. fuck you, american apparel, for making really good products despite being creepy as all hell.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 11 Mar 2010, 15:42
I live my life in Scarygoround and Topatoco t-shirts which are American Apparel. I also have a sheer black long-sleeved tshirt that is really super comfy even if I have to wear a tank top underneath it. I have no beef with plain AA other than it is ludicrously expensive for such simple items, but I guess it is worth it for the quality.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 11 Mar 2010, 16:18
i shop at american apparel all the time. i'm allowed to hate the company and still love the product, right?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 11 Mar 2010, 19:02
<devil's advocate>

Boycotting American Apparel products is a waste of time.

I work for Home Depot, a company that contributed the maximum possible amount to the Bush election and re-election campaigns. This means I work for a company that sponsored a President who waged "military action" that has killed thousands of people. My starting wage is $9.15 an hour, and if I prove my worth during my 'temporary' employment period, I'm eligible to receive full benefits, great promotions, enough pay to support myself and a family. But the company is one degree of separation from a man who illegally ordered an invasion of another sovereign nation that didn't do a damn thing to us.

Dov Charney likes butts and titties. He likes them a lot, and he doesn't care who knows about it. Employees, customers, black folks, white folks, his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents... he will proudly profess his love of butts and titties to anyone and everyone by posting pictures everywhere of them being not really covered at all by his company's products, and he uses them to sell his products and make himself wealthier.

I ain't saying he's a great man or a role model or anything but if you really wanna protest something, protest something that's actually worth protesting. I work for a corporation that sponsors murder, and I sleep just fine at night (or, at least, my insomnia isn't from guilt). There be bigger fish to fry and I don't see threads about any of 'em.

</devil's advocate>
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 11 Mar 2010, 21:11
uh, that's because those threads are in the discuss forum. lots of them.

also "there's worse things to complain about" is the cheapest way out of sympathizing for a cause because you're always going to be able to find something worse if you look hard enough. yeah yeah blatant misogyny and sexism perpetuated by a multi-million dollar corporation is kind of bad i guess but of course murder is worse, except you know what else is worse than murder, sweatshops with little children. and so on. whatever you happen to care about, picking something you're passionate about and fighting for it is always going to stand a better chance of meaning something in the long run than not giving a shit about anything at all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 11 Mar 2010, 21:58
However, if you follow that path for long enough you will eventually find the worst thing in the world.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 11 Mar 2010, 22:00
That thing: Graduate Students.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: McTaggart on 11 Mar 2010, 22:06
I think you mean undergraduate students.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 12 Mar 2010, 00:18
That thing: Vampire Weekend.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2010, 08:18
We already said Grad Students, tommy
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 12 Mar 2010, 18:51
uh, that's because those threads are in the discuss forum. lots of them.

also "there's worse things to complain about" is the cheapest way out of sympathizing for a cause because you're always going to be able to find something worse if you look hard enough. yeah yeah blatant misogyny and sexism perpetuated by a multi-million dollar corporation is kind of bad i guess but of course murder is worse, except you know what else is worse than murder, sweatshops with little children. and so on. whatever you happen to care about, picking something you're passionate about and fighting for it is always going to stand a better chance of meaning something in the long run than not giving a shit about anything at all.

I'm not actually saying I don't give a shit, I'm saying there's considerably more pressing issues to deal with that are getting, by comparison, a mere fraction of the attention they deserve. Some guys are pervs, some guys sponsor the ongoing murder of brown people.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 12 Mar 2010, 19:33
right, and last time i checked i'm pretty sure you can actually care about more than one thing at once.
during the course of my undergraduate degree i spent several months researching and writing on how the disproportionate representation of black people on death row in the united states constitutes institutionalized racism. now i'm posting in a thread about a multi-million dollar corporation that (arguably) makes their fortune from the degradation and exploitation of women, which i think is maybe just a tiny bit more complex than some dude "just being a pervert". so yeah, i actually do care about the ongoing murder of minorities AND sexism. crazy! but we're not talking about murder here, we're talking about american apparel. if something is wrong, it's wrong. why it is or isn't wrong is totally arguable, but interjecting with an entirely unhelpful rebuttal like "there are worse things to complain about" is both circular (and therefore useless as a valid argument) and totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 12 Mar 2010, 20:41
I am pretty sure American Apparel is an at-will employer. Which I believe makes the entire "Dov Charney is a dick for exploting these poor poor souls" thing completely worthless.''

In fact yeah I am pretty sure that any person in the U.S. has the right to say "No I don't want to do this"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 12 Mar 2010, 20:46
Which I believe makes the entire "Dov Charney is a dick for exploting these poor poor souls" thing completely worthless.''

It's like you're trying to be wrong about as many things as possible in as short of period of time as possible.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 12 Mar 2010, 20:54
In fact yeah I am pretty sure that any person in the U.S. has the right to say "No I don't want to do this"

Well, sure, they can say it. But saying "I don't wanna" generally has little effect on things.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 12 Mar 2010, 20:59
Which I believe makes the entire "Dov Charney is a dick for exploting these poor poor souls" thing completely worthless.''

It's like you're trying to be wrong about as many things as possible in as short of period of time as possible.

Yeah the guy is a dick but the people being oh-so-horribly exploited are perfectly capable of saying "Fuck this shit I am not going to work here anymore"

And since I don't think he is breaking any laws (being an asshole isn't against the law) then I don't know what you think I'm wrong about.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 12 Mar 2010, 21:02
While I do think it's hard to find work right now, I do agree with Patrick.

Without reading anything but this page of course.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 12 Mar 2010, 21:03
I have sympathy for the idea that it's rather patronizing to go in rescuing people from the choices they've made when they themselves appear to be fine with the situation. But given this country's long history of power imbalances, it's probably best to keep in mind that some people are expected to swallow more shit than others as a matter of course.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: michaelicious on 12 Mar 2010, 21:06
Aahhh hegemony. You sure go down smooth.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 12 Mar 2010, 21:07
But swallowing said shit is what a lot of people are good at.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 12 Mar 2010, 21:38
That doesn't make the guy handing the shit out a good person.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 12 Mar 2010, 21:53
You also have to keep in mind the effect of AA on people outside of their work environment. What are the ads, and Dov Charney's behavior saying to other people? What are people taking away from it? What effect does AA ads have on the people who view them?


AA's creepiness goes beyond Dov Charney's workplace antics.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 12 Mar 2010, 22:01
But what can I do? I'm just one man!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 12 Mar 2010, 22:06
Boycott?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 12 Mar 2010, 22:07
I like Fruit of The Loom shirts better anyway.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Candle on 12 Mar 2010, 22:11
charney is just a good ol' fashioned capitalist-businessman in my opinion. he's just capitalizing on the fashion industry's objectification of women-- taking it to the next level.

it's shitty, yeah, but he is just the tip of a much more vast male-chauvinist culture derived from a history of intense patriarchy.

anyway /politics
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Candle on 12 Mar 2010, 22:19
(http://rebelgrrrl.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/feminist.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 12 Mar 2010, 22:19
I already boycott, I'm unemployed.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 12 Mar 2010, 23:11
Guys, no one cares about your stupid activism incentives in this thread.

This thread? It is not about you. It is about this guy.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/9/3/1251998782547/Dov-Charney-001.jpg).


He has ok taste in curtains.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 12 Mar 2010, 23:12
Or, y'know, at least we could talk about some damn fine titties.


(http://www.pingoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dov_charney02.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 12 Mar 2010, 23:22
I don't like tan lines on women because it means they've left the kitchen.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 12 Mar 2010, 23:27
That's some serious boob glare.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Melodic on 12 Mar 2010, 23:47
man those are rude titties
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Mar 2010, 00:23
I think part of what makes people so uncomfortable with AA's particular brand of objectification is because -just like the folks over at Suicidegirls- the aesthetic of seems as though they're trying to dress it up as "empowered women taking control of their sexuality" while the behind-the-scenes reportage would suggest that it is anything but.

In other words it's not just sexist objectification, but it's disingenuous as well, which although logically shouldn't make that much of a difference (sexism is sexism, right?) it does seem to strike a special chord within a lot of people.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 13 Mar 2010, 00:36
Didn't/isn't suicide girls used to be/is still a totally ladies-run operation? I feel like I remember reading that somewhere.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 13 Mar 2010, 00:43
Yeah, founded by a pair of chicks
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 13 Mar 2010, 00:44
Also remember that sash grey ad? The photographer was a woman.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 13 Mar 2010, 00:55
So wait... women can't objectify other women? Isn't that sexist?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Mar 2010, 01:06
Didn't/isn't suicide girls used to be/is still a totally ladies-run operation? I feel like I remember reading that somewhere.
Yeah, founded by a pair of chicks

Nope.

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According to the Suicide Girls official bio, the website first went live in late 2001 in Portland, Ore. The founding partners, "Sean Suicide" (Sean Suhl) and "Missy Suicide" (Selena Mooney),

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According to a Business Registry filed with Oregon's secretary of state, the site's parent corporation, SG Services, has two officers. Suhl is listed as the president and Mooney is registered as the secretary.

oh yes and also

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The recent wave of SuicideGirl defections has reignited Dia’s anti-SG passion. Like many of the women who have shared their stories in the blogosphere, Dia describes a prickly relationship with SG president Suhl. This man, she says, is the SuicideGirls puppeteer; he is "verbally abusive" to his models and wields more control than Missy does. "It’s exploitational to women, and abusive," she says, "because it lures women in with a marketing scheme that purports feminism, when in actuality the sole owner of the company is an active misogynist."

A March 2003 story in Oregon’s Willamette Week describes Suhl as a Canadian-born, neoconservative Hampshire College dropout who rarely meets SG members and is estranged from his family — but who is "friendly and casual" in person.

Indeed, "when he just meets you one or two times he is peachy," writes 24-year-old Kelly Kleinert, a/k/a Shera, via e-mail. "But when you are forced to be around him, like the original models and the tour girls, he is almost inhuman. He is a miserable person that takes his life/business problems out on the models." The former SuicideGirl from Pennsylvania says Suhl called tour girls "talentless, whores, and ugly."

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But while Suhl can be commended on his hard work and success, the ethos behind the site‹that of an empowered, new kind of pornography—is only so much marketing in the view of some ex-models.

"The philosophy behind the site has nothing to do with him," insists Caravella. "He knows that it's good to have a community, but if he had his way there would just be a bunch of nude pictures for everyone to stare at. The only reason that it's the other way is because it is a philosophy and a gimmick that makes him a lot of money."

Source 1 (http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.04.06/suicidegirls-0601.html) 2 (http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/05016155.asp)

tl:dr; Suicidegirls' purported "female-run" and "feminist" credentials are marketing bullshit and the real power lies with a misogynist neocon fuck
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 13 Mar 2010, 01:26
Ok I was half wrong I misread the wikipedia entry
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: count on 13 Mar 2010, 01:39
Right or wrong, it still wouldn't be okay from what I've read here.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 13 Mar 2010, 04:53
I read all of your posts with concern and then I scrolled up to Katie's post to make sure the breasts were still there.

They're still there.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 13 Mar 2010, 04:54
I was moderating, you see.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 16 Mar 2010, 16:39
A challenger appears! (http://jezebel.com/5494634/meet-terry-richardson-the-worlds-most-fked-up-fashion-photographer)

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This is a man who once said of breaking into modeling, "It's not who you know, it's who you blow. I don't have a hole in my jeans for nothing."
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 16 Mar 2010, 17:54
Terry is old hat man.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Mar 2010, 19:13
Yup.

Now I don't know much about photography sure, but Terry Richardson sucks, right? I mean, his photographs are technically really fucking shit?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: johnny5 on 17 Mar 2010, 03:38
hey so i saw like page 1 and 2 and thought there would be a lot more sexy pictures on page 5-8 but so far i've only been touching myself to a lot of letters, an old pamela anderson, terry richardson and some black guy

----
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 18 Mar 2010, 13:12
Sorry to disappoint
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Mar 2010, 15:02
It's a little way back but I'm sure you all remember the boobs well enough not to have to verify my comment that they look real. Which doesn't really make it any less objectifying but still.

I can't decide whether it's bad or good to use sex to sell things. I mean, most people want sex. To advertise baby products, they have images of happy babies. It implies that using the baby product will make the baby happy. That's the same thing here, I guess.

On the other hand, put some clothes on girl and get some self-respect.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: öde on 18 Mar 2010, 16:20
Just how it would be unfair for me to call these girls skanky whores that get what they're asking for, I feel it's unfair to assume these girls have little self-respect.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 18 Mar 2010, 16:58
Yeah, this is a big part of the whole issue. Nudity is a pretty ridiculous thing to get hung up on and sex is a biological imperative, which is of course something which we shouldn't really be ashamed of. However, I kind of like having some boundaries with regards to good taste and decency and the AA adverts for the most part display little of either. There will be adverts out there which use nudity and suggestion in an aesthetic or artistically compelling manner but Charney and his ilk seem to glorify the more base elements of sexuality, thus extolling an atmosphere of exploitation.

Then again, I know from personal experience that different people like different things. Sexuality is complicated and if somebody can be more open and adventurous than I usually am personally comfortable, good luck to them. Just because I'm ashamed of my appearance and somewhat narrow in my appetites, I don't expect everyone else to be. People have the right to choose and that's why I can't openly condemn anyone who involves themselves. It's not really my place to make value judgements because I know what it is to feel ostracised for perceived lapses in decency. Certainly I wouldn't want to make assumptions regarding self-esteem, especially given that I have virtually none.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 18 Mar 2010, 18:24
Okay.

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You can see Dov Charney as we do here, an asshole that feels up employees and is generally an all-round creep that thinks of his employees as sex toys to abuse (which him being sued for it several times certainly seems to imply) - or a guy that likes to be felt up, really likes sex, and seems only vaguely conscious yet very frustrated over the fact that not everybody feels the same way, to the point where he simply assumes that everyone does and would rather face the consequences later (hence him feeling up his employees regardless of whether they want to or not). I think the second image of him is a better fit.
It doesn't matter? I'll ask you if you think that what you openly refer to as willful ignorance is a real justification for his behavior. Fuck Dov Charney. There are ambassadors of sexual freedom who don't molest people. Sexual freedom defined as "the freedom to be sexual with anyone and everyone" is not a freedom worth promoting.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 18 Mar 2010, 18:26
To me it's a sticky issue of privilege, capitalism and employer-employee power dynamics as much as it has anything to do with sexuality or even Dov Charney in particular. Basically, you don't necessarily need to offer a good situation in order to employ people or to get them to agree to things. You just need to offer them a situation that's slightly better off than their other options and say "Take it or leave it." You see this with hiring illegal immigrants for pennies on the dollar and you see it when credit companies "help" keep the working class living paycheck to paycheck by offering payday loans that are just shy of unsustainable. Maybe it isn't illegal, and maybe it helps you look out for yourself, but forgive me if I have a hard time of admiring you for it. I think it's important to recognize the right for grown adults to consent to things, but I'm still leery of what people might consent to if they don't think there's a viable alternative out there anymore. If you want to say that this just means I'm a li'l hostile to some of the worst excesses of capitalism in general, then well, hey, guilty as charged.

Now, does Dov Charney operate his business in an exploitive manner? I don't honestly know and I find it hard to believe that these employees couldn't find work elsewhere. But I know the culture we live in and I know that he's been accused of sexual harassment before and I know firsthand that many people will eat a lot of shit before making a peep in protest. To put it plainly, I've never heard anything that makes me think the guy should definitely be jailed (I'm not familiar with the cases against him at all) but I'm certainly leery of him and his business. Besides, in this case an overreaction and boycott just means that I'll continue to buy my underwear at target.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 18 Mar 2010, 19:28
Jens, my concern is that he's not selling sexual liberty/hipsterism/etc., he's selling the image of such as facilitated by his clothes. Baudrillard called this the hyperreal, Guy Debord called it the Spectacle - but whatever you call it, it's unseemly.

Through his ad campaigns, which use particular signifiers to objectify women in particular ways, he sells clothes, right? Except implicit in the clothes is the sexually free lifestyle, combined with hipster relevance. So you have people buying those clothes in order to signify their own sexually free lifestyle and hipster relevance. Except that what they're signifying isn't themselves, what they're signifying is the image sold to themselves. So is everyone else they're interacting with within that culture. Image interacting with image. Sign interacting with sign.

Dov Charney has made money on the back of the imagistic replacement of a culture with a simulacrum of itself - and, gallingly, he's also managed to trick a lot of people into thinking his imagery is somehow liberating. But, Jens, what's liberating about it? What about the imagery of AA at all feeds into creating a healthier attitude towards sex? What about it evens the playing field for sexual politics? He's saying "people should be allowed to have sex" - well no shit, people have been saying that for decades. What he's saying is old hat. What he's doing with it? He's carving slices off the culture's leg and serving them up to the mouth, and then he's laughing while he drafts the cheque.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 18 Mar 2010, 20:04
What is the positive they're producing, besides the nebulous "they're making people think"? What are they making them think about? Who are they making think? These are pertinent questions because I honestly don't think the answers to them are the answers that would justify AA's ad campaign. The sort of people talking & thinking about it are the sort of people with Gawker in their RSS feed. The average consumer is more interested in the lifestyle, and that's why the ads are so successful. They market to lifestyle and sell it successfully. They don't market to provoking thought, though they certainly might pretend to.

And I noted that the arguments in AA ads are old hat because the argument about the ad isn't fundamentally about what they're saying because, like I said, they're not saying "be sexually free," they're saying, "buy our shit and you will have access to this world of sexual freedom." This is, like I said, a case of culture being sold back to itself, devouring itself. There's no upshot to it, there's just the hollow and craven manipulation of base sexual desires in the name of the almighty dollar. It stands against so much of what independent and alternative culture are for and claims to represent that culture. It contributes to a general sensation of cultural malaise, generational emptiness that thrives on fucking and posturing. It makes us into a bunch of kids jockeying for power and it's doing that with polaroids that exploit us and exploit their subjects. Everything in it is commodified.

That's fucking terrifying and I can't imagine myself ever defending it, ever.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 18 Mar 2010, 21:44
e's saying, if not how he personally applies it in the real world.
Sexual freedom defined as "the freedom to be sexual with anyone and everyone" is not a freedom worth promoting.

Isn't that the very definition of sexual freedom? Consent is mandatory, of course, but beyond that, why not? How would you define "sexual freedom" if not by the criteria of, well, freedom?
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Sexual freedom defined as "the freedom to be sexual with anyone and everyone" is not a freedom worth promoting.

And as long as we stop the gays, pedophiles, and furries from marrying, our precious bodily fluids will remain pure. We'll avoid the slippery slope of sexual freedom.
Consent is not a part of the "sexual freedom" that advertising peddles. Objectification is the making of a person into an object. Thus "the freedom to be sexual with anyone and everyone" is just that - anyone and everyone. A justifiable freedom must contain both positive and negative liberties - The freedom to, and the freedom to not. Our culture encourages the freedom to and discourages the freedom to not, being as it is concerned with gratification. In so many areas a person's steadfast refusal to not partake in something -  be it the purchase of certain goods, sexual proclivities, consumption of substances, engagement in common practices - demands a peculiar air of defiance that belies the notion of "choice" we have. Dov Charney's "people who won't touch my dick are prudes" position is just the explicit enunciation of that lopsided libertarianism (I guess the best word would be libertinism). But it's not strictly a function of consumerism. See also: Intellectual reaction to the arrest of Roman Polanski.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 18 Mar 2010, 22:27
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Sexual freedom defined as "the freedom to be sexual with anyone and everyone" is not a freedom worth promoting.

And as long as we stop the gays, pedophiles, and furries from marrying, our precious bodily fluids will remain pure. We'll avoid the slippery slope of sexual freedom.
Fix'd

I think furries are allowed to marry as long as they are straight furries.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 18 Mar 2010, 23:16
(http://www.overcompensating.com/comics/weddins.png)

ITT I have nothing of substance to contribute. Sorry! Carry on nerdlingers.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 19 Mar 2010, 12:56
This somehow ended up being a really good thread over the course of however many pages.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 19 Mar 2010, 19:49
Jens either way you're an intelligent and eminently reasonable dude, especially because you chose to write a bunch of well-considered arguments in Charney's favour. Got nothing but respect for someone willing to think out their positions.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 25 Mar 2010, 14:46
And the fact that I can spend a longer period of being concentrated while writing a defense of Dov Charney than I can spend writing university essays is probably proof of a serious character defect of some kind.

The fact that I can spend at least twice as long playing AdventureQuest as I can doing some pretty vital reading is probably proof that things could be worse for you.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 03 Apr 2010, 05:42
Yesterday there was an actual riot in London because the AA store was having a sale. No really (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8601662.stm). Ten Police Officers injured.

Can't wait for Dov's comment on this.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 03 Apr 2010, 06:09
My facebook feed's been going crazy with this since yesterday evening as I have friends who work in that store. It's fucking mind-boggling. Trust a combination of Shoreditch and AA to produce this kind of mess. The worst thing is that on the periphery of just about all the videos that have emerged from this, you can see the gawping, grinning faces of gleeful teenage hipsters revelling in the moment like it's some kind of hilarious game. Even in the clip used by the BBC you can hear some dickhead exclaim, between shrieks of laughter from his companions and in response to a fairly ridiculous fight between public and police, "This is so fun(ny?)".


WHAT THE FUCK EAST LONDON?!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: falandrew on 04 Apr 2010, 19:34
Fuck tha po-lice coming straight out the... American Apparel.

I didn't think AA was even all that big over here. I'm pretty much the only person I know who owns an AA shirt.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 05 Apr 2010, 01:49
I think you've gotta bear in mind that East London wants to bear more of a resemblance to certain parts of the USA than it does most of the rest of the UK. Even so, AA is pretty popular in the capital in general, but I don't know about elsewhere.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 05 Apr 2010, 04:41
They are opening an AA in Leeds soonish. Personally I didn't want to buy anything from there anyway.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Metope on 05 Apr 2010, 04:45
I like AA clothes a lot, but I don't think I would ever buy anything from them outside of the US. It's so expensive, it's not really worth it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 05 Apr 2010, 05:56
not even these (http://www.americanapparel.com/rsaphhct.html?cid=203)?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 05 Apr 2010, 05:57
Well obviously there are exceptions to every rule!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 05 Apr 2010, 06:04
dov charney knows what women want (http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/rsaphhct/RSAPHHCT_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 05 Apr 2010, 06:17
Hey now I think we've all at one time or another arrived home absolutely busting to take a dump and even the few seconds it takes to undo a belt and take down a pair of trousers has seemed like an agonising, sphincter-clenching eternity.

Mr. Charney has solved this problem. Mr. Charney is a thinker.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 05 Apr 2010, 06:19
I could make that, and they look to be the most ridiculous, unappealing items of clothing I have ever seen, and I've been dressed as a jeusit.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 05 Apr 2010, 07:57
Harry, those are actually thong-tights. You would still not be able to take a dump in them conveniently.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 05 Apr 2010, 08:13
They're just a fetish item guys.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Apr 2010, 08:36
Yeah, I'm pretty okay with thong stockings. They are a nice thing.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 05 Apr 2010, 08:40
I mean I'm not really into them but, they're not really supposed to be practical.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 05 Apr 2010, 09:39
It's pretty reasonable to expect a t-shirt apparel company to sell fetish wear and use porn stars to do it.

(http://www.f-up.net/annoying/pics/loom.jpg)

I'm so fucking hard right now.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Apr 2010, 09:53
Fruit Fuckers everywhere just got a massive collective hardon.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 05 Apr 2010, 09:59
That's really offensively homophobic.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Apr 2010, 18:33
cool so he's selling ladies' assless chaps
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Apr 2010, 18:58
those things make her ass cheeks look like two great hanging goiters
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Apr 2010, 19:33
Back from the breasts with observation: they're still there.

Mackaye'd Your Post.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Apr 2010, 20:45
That's really offensively homophobic.

I'm going to pretend I made that joke on purpose.

Melon Fucking (http://www.sextutor.com/masturbation_male.shtml)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 08 Apr 2010, 17:28
dov charney knows what women want (http://www.americanapparel.net/morephotos/rsaphhct/RSAPHHCT_02.jpg)

what the heck american apparel that was not the image i linked!
the one where the two models were grabbing each other's asses while staring into the camera with something resembling terror was way better
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 20 May 2010, 01:49
AA could soon be in serious trouble financially (http://gawker.com/5542971/who-will-save-american-apparel?skyline=true&s=i).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 20 May 2010, 05:28
omg really???

who'd have ever guessed that the creepy sex fantasy guy is not the best financial planner.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 20 May 2010, 07:29
They have stores everywhere (stores are incredibly expensive to staff, supply and run) and by my estimation only about 20% of their stock is particularly marketable and that's the stuff that never changes. Their seasonal and new ranges (at the front of the store if you want to check) are always utter pap. They should probably just cut back to selling online and keep a handful of stores in key cities if they want to survive.

I have sympathy for their staff but little to none for their CEO and shareholders.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 20 May 2010, 07:38
AA had had net sales of 387 million dollars (http://investors.americanapparel.net/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=300055) in 2007, though. Musta been doing something right.

Only paying attention to high sales is probably the most common way founders with big egos ruin their companies. "woo look at all the money coming in! Now let's hire a fleet of private jets staffed by hookers just because we can!"

It's sort of like how people have been screwing themselves with debt. Obviously having a high income helps a lot in terms of financial well-being, but it's perfectly possible to have a high income and still be in financial hot water because you're blowing all your money.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 20 May 2010, 09:44
Personally I think it's more like he had a lot of lucky breaks but now his luck's run out. I mean, I know he was hustling like crazy when he first started selling T-shirts back in highschool, but there are tons of people hustling like that so he's obviously had a lot of luck on his side.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 21 May 2010, 00:00
Well it's also entirely possible that as many people around here have said, AA actually do make very nice plain T-shirts and hoodies and underpants etc and I for one am glad to give the company money in exchange for those products but they recently are focussing on putting out a lot of products which no one in their right mind would ever buy ever.

And now, there are several companies who have taken Charney's template and replicated it without the disturbing marketing or the sexual harassment claims against the founder and are chipping away at AA's market share, particularly the valuable "oh my god i can't believe i am giving that man my money" demographic.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2010, 15:41
Getting employed (http://gawker.com/5559165/american-apparel-has-a-full-body-head-to-toe-hiring-policy?skyline=true&s=i)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Allybee on 09 Jun 2010, 15:57
my (super cool and hardworking, fyi) friend just got hired at an AA! she told me that they made her push her bangs back when they photographed her because bangs aren't "in" right now. you don't even need a resume at all. the employees are meant to wear the clothing to inspire the customer - which actually makes sense, last time I was in one with another friend she thought the lace shirt looked cute on the salesgirl - but this is clearly a really poor way to run a business if you're looking to make money. nobody goes to AA because of the charming, helpful salespeople. as much as I love my overpriced basics, I'm glad to see that the hiring approach has caught up with them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 09 Jun 2010, 18:46
I know I'm late on this, but saying someone needs luck and saying they're a dumb ass is isn't the same thing though. Business is often about filling a vacuum, when it comes right down to it, and vacuums never stay free of competition for long. I think people underestimate how ferocious running a business is, and a lot of the time it isn't really about your product. For example, just about any industry rag will tell you that when a restaurant fails it's rarely because of the food.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Jun 2010, 04:38
Fun fact: There are no American Apparel stores here in Perth, but a lot of nice little independent boutiques stock the basics, so I get to buy my wonderful ringer t-shirts while not feeling like my dignity is being violated! Hooray!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 10 Jun 2010, 07:05
Pretty interesting argument/counter-argument, although it's pretty old:
http://www.jewlicious.com/2004/08/dov-charney-jane-magazine-and-google/
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Catfish_Man on 13 Jun 2010, 12:17
For example, just about any industry rag will tell you that when a restaurant fails it's rarely because of the food.

So true. I still miss Il Cantuccio (an Italian place near my apartment that closed a few months ago).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Buttfranklin on 14 Jun 2010, 13:14
I read this thread at 2 am this morning since I couldn't get to sleep and I kept reading "Dov Charney" as "Dick Cheney" and I kept getting madly confused.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: redglasscurls on 15 Jun 2010, 11:20
I signed up for the AA newsletter to my junk email address for a free pair of undies. Damn you Dov Charney catering to my cheapness.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 15 Jun 2010, 12:52
War stories (http://gawker.com/5564171/life-at-american-apparel-the-employees-speak).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Jun 2010, 20:32
Want naked men on your towels?  American Apparel has your back (http://gay.fleshbot.com/5569899/oh-our-god-yes-butt-magazine-and-american-apparel-release-special-edition-beach-towels/gallery/) (NSFW)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 22 Jun 2010, 20:40
Billy Mays in the nude
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 22 Jun 2010, 22:45
I don't know how I feel about this blatant attempt at turning the tide

Let the witch hunt carry on as planned
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 22 Jun 2010, 22:58
I want one.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 25 Jun 2010, 08:39
Can we please stop calling American Apparel AA? Because every time someone does I have to stop and figure out why Alcoholics Anonymous is relevant at all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Jun 2010, 19:26
Oh wow it is an actual dicktowel (http://www.dicktowel.com/dicktowel.html)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jun 2010, 00:29
here's a better idea buy a normal towel and then donate the 33-odd dollars you saved to the same centre for lgbt youth
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Jun 2010, 00:40
Then draw a naked dude on the normal towel in sharpie
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lines on 26 Jun 2010, 09:23
That is a much better idea. I would draw naked men/women on towels as a fundraiser for an lgbt organization.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jun 2010, 09:31
Then draw a naked dude on the normal towel in sharpie

my dude
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2010, 10:43
I've never been disappointed in Kool Keith before

Well that is a buzzkill
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: allison on 26 Jun 2010, 15:51
G20 protesters smash in the windows of American Apparel on Yonge Street, throw human feces. (http://twitpic.com/208loj)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 26 Jun 2010, 17:07
why
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: De_El on 27 Jun 2010, 04:52
I dunno, I feel like major structuring meetings between the great powers of global capitalism bring with them violent protestors as an unavoidable sideshow. If you're hosting them in your city you've got to know they don't declare their whole party, and the party makes frequent grandstands against itself.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 27 Jun 2010, 09:56
the majority of protesters in toronto have actually been leading very peaceful demonstrations, which the police seem to be in full support of. the main group perpetrating the violence is a group called the black bloc (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontog20summit/article/829194--behind-the-black-bloc-mob?bn=1/) which primarily employs very extreme and violent tactics. it really bothers me because a lot of the controversy surrounding the summit had to do with the ridiculous $1.1 billion the country spent on security and now that yonge street is in ruins and there have been at least three cop cars set on fire, two media vehicles destroyed and over 500 arrests following the previous events and a particularly violent riot this morning (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/g8-g20/toronto/sunday-morning-raids-lead-to-scores-of-arrests/article1620135/) it's looking more and more like that amount of money was justified after all. personally, i would have really liked to see some of it go towards transit city (http://www3.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Projects_and_initiatives/Transit_city/Transit_City_Details/index.jsp), which the city desperately needs and which has also already been postponed for years, but sure you guys can justify pouring funds into ridiculous security costs through meaningless destruction and violence if you want. way to go guys! amidst all the bullshit violence i have totally forgotten about all the real problems in the world.

(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00728/g20-protest-53_j_728365artw.jpg)

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs162.snc4/37448_1326164808061_1649130337_945680_3206705_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 27 Jun 2010, 09:56
oh wait this thread is about american apparel. my bad
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 27 Jun 2010, 10:08
Easy mistake. They are in different sections after all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Jun 2010, 22:48

Quote
“Stop it. They’re not our enemies,” one protester shouted.

The other retorted: “Yuppies are our enemy.”

lmao fuck these dipshits
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Jun 2010, 22:48
read a book you motherfuckers and not a book that could also be considered a "tract"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 28 Jun 2010, 10:44
by now i am sure everybody in the toronto area has heard dozens of stories about innocent people being detained and police using excessive force but before anyone launches into a "fuck the police" rant, here's a more detailed account of the events that led to the sunday riots (http://torontoist.com/2010/06/g20_dispatches_mad_mad_mad_mad_world.php), which hopefully places their actions into a little more context.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 28 Jun 2010, 10:45
also sorry that i accidentally hijacked this thread but shit has seriously hit the fan for real here
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 28 Jun 2010, 11:32
Well I mean, I sort of feel a chicken/egg quandry here. If there wasn't a massive police presence, would there have been riots? I mean, it sounds like, by and large, the police held back well until they just couldn't anymore from that account but, of course, all news from inside a protest/riot is extremely suspect- from both sides, mind you.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Jun 2010, 12:02
The "Die Pigs" spray painted on the car is really classy
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 12:12
Well I mean, I sort of feel a chicken/egg quandry here. If there wasn't a massive police presence, would there have been riots? I mean, it sounds like, by and large, the police held back well until they just couldn't anymore from that account but, of course, all news from inside a protest/riot is extremely suspect- from both sides, mind you.

that's the entire thing. why are people wrecking shit, endangering people and ruining businesses? well, there's a massive quasi-fascist wall of riot cops. why is there a massive quasi-fascist wall of riot cops? well, people wrecking shit, endangering people and ruining businesses.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 12:12
i can't get over smashing an aa window though like that doesn't seem to make any sense
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 12:13
it's a company guilty of a whole bunch of shit but like i just can't figure out what it has to do with globalization???
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 28 Jun 2010, 12:21
Well it is American Apparel.

And they are in Toronto which is in Canada.

So

Globalization!

Logic made.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 28 Jun 2010, 12:54
why are people wrecking shit, endangering people and ruining businesses? well, there's a massive quasi-fascist wall of riot cops.

most of the businesses downtown which were victims of the attacks (some of which weren't even businesses but i guess had windows?? so sure, let's smash those too) didn't really have anything to do with the summit or cops at all and yet now are bearing the brunt of the damage because there are little to no relief funds being provided for the owners of those businesses. according to most accounts, the senseless destruction of businesses and police and media vehicles seems to have been the main event which then led to the arrest and detainment of hundreds of innocent people later that evening. so yeah, protesters, good job getting back at those... uh... cops. you sure showed them!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: allison on 28 Jun 2010, 14:13
What bothered me most is that the protesters were lashing out at private security guards, who are not police! These are just people with shitty $11/hr jobs, just trying to support themselves and maybe their families.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 14:32
yeah but they're part of the police state allison
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 17:58
yeah my dad said today "i honestly don't get why they couldn't just skype" and all i could do was nod sagely
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 17:58
in amappy news http://gawker.com/5572894/american-apparel-the-complete-new-standards-dress-code-manual/gallery/ lmao lmao lmao
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jun 2010, 17:59
"we want you to be on the cutting edge. no tattoos or beards"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Graphite on 28 Jun 2010, 18:48
"One ring per hand" - do you reckon that means women who have an engagement ring and wedding band need to take one off?
Also, apparently "late 80s-early 90s" is "vintage" for shoes now. And ballet flats seem a strange thing for them to dislike - they're so young and innocent-looking.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 28 Jun 2010, 18:56
sideburns must be trimmed at mid-ear? even safeway lets you go full ear!  :-o
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 28 Jun 2010, 20:04
"we want you to be on the cutting edge. no tattoos or beards"

Actually that makes sense to me. Tattoos (definitely) and beards (less so) are practically a uniform for a huge segment of the population these days. They haven't been "cutting edge" for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 28 Jun 2010, 21:00
"One ring per hand" - do you reckon that means women who have an engagement ring and wedding band need to take one off?
Also, apparently "late 80s-early 90s" is "vintage" for shoes now. And ballet flats seem a strange thing for them to dislike - they're so young and innocent-looking.

the early late 80s were more than 20 years ago
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 28 Jun 2010, 21:11
And ballet flats seem a strange thing for them to dislike - they're so young and innocent-looking.

Yeah but they have absolutely no arch support! American Apparel cares.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 28 Jun 2010, 21:35
I like that in the 'it is recommended you look like these idiots' photos they have a girl wearing ballet flats.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Jun 2010, 23:53
Actually that makes sense to me. Tattoos (definitely) and beards (less so) are practically a uniform for a huge segment of the population these days. They haven't been "cutting edge" for a long, long time.

Do you know what else hasn't been cutting edge for a long time? American Apparel OH SICK BURNNN
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Jun 2010, 00:04
Actually that makes sense to me. Tattoos (definitely) and beards (less so) are practically a uniform for a huge segment of the population these days. They haven't been "cutting edge" for a long, long time.

right but neither is having your skin free of blemish and modification, and beyond that tattoos are definitely always a thing within alternative culture - that thing that eventually inevitably feeds into the mainstream. like i dare you to find me a city where there isn't at least one awesome band with at least one tattooed member. it's absolutely impossible because cool dudes like cool things and tattoos look kinda cool especially on cool people.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: axerton on 29 Jun 2010, 04:21
Odd that it specifies "no visible tattoos" but simply "no necklaces" for men. surely they wouldn't have a problem with someone wearing a cross or other necklace under his shirt, I mean they've already alienated so many potential workers, why add certain christians to the list.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 29 Jun 2010, 04:34
"One ring per hand" - do you reckon that means women who have an engagement ring and wedding band need to take one off?
Also, apparently "late 80s-early 90s" is "vintage" for shoes now. And ballet flats seem a strange thing for them to dislike - they're so young and innocent-looking.

the early late 80s were more than 20 years ago

The definition of "vintage" should be "before I was born."
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 29 Jun 2010, 05:03
I am a big fan of American Apparel forbidding their employees from wearing the one product they do well: plain t-shirts.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Metope on 29 Jun 2010, 05:20
I'm giggling a little over the fact that the first clothing item under the 'bottoms' list for 'smart, sophisticated, elegant and classic' girl's clothing is 'disco pants'.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Jun 2010, 05:28
The definition of "vintage" should be "before I was born."
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/d00ltaz/fred_flintstone_and_barney_rubble.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 29 Jun 2010, 15:45
the 50s are pretty vintage
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 29 Jun 2010, 16:23
I am a big fan of American Apparel forbidding their employees from wearing the one product they do well: plain t-shirts.

and hoodies

so many hoodies
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 29 Jun 2010, 16:31
favourites:

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hair must be... complimentary to skin tone and flatter features

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no straightening and no unnatural haircuts and/or colouring

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no overplucking of eyebrows

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nail polish must not be chipped or dirty

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outstanding dental hygiene/fresh breath

this reads less like an employment dress code policy and more like dov charney's description of his fantasy gross hipster boyfriend/girlfriend. this is pretty weird.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 16:47
Well I mean the dental hygiene thing is excusable at least

I mean I wouldn't employ some fool with rotten teeth and stank face
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 29 Jun 2010, 16:52
yes because there are only rotten teeth and outstanding teeth
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2010, 00:14
somebody put charney in manacles and walk him through a fucking abercrombie & fitch so he can see the terminus point of the path on which he has currently set his franchise

also i'm too lazy to link it but a manager told gawker that dov said in a conference call to only hire black girls "with nice hair" not the "trashy" ones you see on the street
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Jun 2010, 00:38
They've got a point guys, I mean, if I walked into an AA store and I saw some bearded douchebag with a plain t-shirt on I would turn right around and go buy my clothes from somewhere with a bit more pride in itself.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Jun 2010, 00:38
(http://i.cnn.net/money/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/02/19/8400171/charney.03.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Jun 2010, 00:39
I mean check this guy out. You seriously expect me to buy my clothing from the kind of company that would employ a guy like that?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 30 Jun 2010, 00:53
You know who else failed to meet his own standards for ideal human appearance?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 30 Jun 2010, 01:03
Man, I think he's kind of handsome.

Although like, honestly they are gonna have to fire more or less the entire Halifax AA staff if there's no visible tattoos or plugs.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Graphite on 30 Jun 2010, 02:49
You know who else failed to meet his own standards for ideal human appearance?
Oh man I feel a Godwin coming.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2010, 10:00
Man, I think he's kind of handsome.

Although like, honestly they are gonna have to fire more or less the entire Halifax AA staff if there's no visible tattoos or plugs.

EXACTLY
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 30 Jun 2010, 15:20
man the fact that the american apparel manual goes into so much detail regarding what employees should look like yet the industry basically doesn't give a shit how many transferable skills or years of retail experience new employees actually have just bugs the crap out of me. when i shop i honestly don't care that much about what a sales associate looks like because i am a lot more interested in things like how helpful they are and how well they listen to my needs and know their products and general qualities that make a good salesperson, also because i am just not shallow enough to judge a store or buy a product based on what their employees look like AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE. but i guess american apparel does want people who are that shallow to shop at their stores so they cater to that audience more and more until their key demographic is so shallow and creepy that american apparel can tighten their dress code even more to suit dov charney's weird fantasy and the whole thing perpetuates itself until it's just one giant freaky cult. nooo thank you.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 30 Jun 2010, 16:28
helpful sales associates? what planet do you live on?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 30 Jun 2010, 22:11
can you call naomi klein's perspective "interesting" in 2010
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 30 Jun 2010, 22:50
gon' go buy a dozen adbusters pamphlets
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 30 Jul 2010, 22:15
Sad trombones for the AA ship (http://jezebel.com/5600863/american-apparels-inevitable-bankruptcy).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 31 Jul 2010, 11:34
I'm actually going to miss about 15% of the clothing items they sell.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 31 Jul 2010, 17:05
D:
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Drill King on 04 Aug 2010, 08:42
Yeah I saw this the other day, I am going to miss their tshirts and stockings and pants and hm.. Their sweaters are nice fitting too.

Oh and that bathing suit, do chicago kids remember that bathing suit? The one piece?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 Aug 2010, 17:37
OTOH, let's brace ourselves for the impending AA firesales.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 04 Aug 2010, 17:57
Does this mean all of the t-shirts sold on the Internet will have to go back to Gildan/Fruit of the Loom?
Sigh. I guess I won't get any more internet shirts.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 04 Aug 2010, 19:35
i have been noticing that an increasing number of folks have been making the move to alternative apparel (http://alternativeapparel.com/).

i was a really big advocate of them as a replacement for american apparel for a real long time but after ordering a shirt that was printed on alternative and finally getting the chance to wear this brand i have to say, american is definitely superior. my alternative shirt is much thinner and looser and stretchier than american and pretty much always looks a size too big on me no matter what i do (they also don't make anything smaller than ladies small, which is what i ordered, so i'm pretty much screwed here) and the very first time i washed it in the machine it actually ended up with a bunch of little holes in the bottom, i guess because it's so thin and flimsy and gets caught on zippers and such that much easier. i wash it by hand now to avoid further destruction. honestly, it's kind of a hassle and it simultaneously looks too big and dumb on me/makes me look fat cos of the stretchy material and they don't make any smaller sizes and i'm not that happy. frankly, the only reason i continue to wear it is because it's for a podcast that i like enough to provide free advertising for regardless of the brand of t-shirt said advertisement is printed on. american apparel's heavier cotton and slimmer fit were much, much nicer. i think i am actually really going to miss them after all.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 05 Aug 2010, 00:25
The one american apparel shirt I have has been way too tight since I bought it. More than happy for everything to be Gildan or Fruit of the Loom. Fuck you, AA.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 05 Aug 2010, 00:34
i have been noticing that an increasing number of folks have been making the move to alternative apparel (http://alternativeapparel.com/).

i was a really big advocate of them as a replacement for american apparel for a real long time but after ordering a shirt that was printed on alternative and finally getting the chance to wear this brand i have to say, american is definitely superior. my alternative shirt is much thinner and looser and stretchier than american and pretty much always looks a size too big on me no matter what i do (they also don't make anything smaller than ladies small, which is what i ordered, so i'm pretty much screwed here) and the very first time i washed it in the machine it actually ended up with a bunch of little holes in the bottom, i guess because it's so thin and flimsy and gets caught on zippers and such that much easier. i wash it by hand now to avoid further destruction. honestly, it's kind of a hassle and it simultaneously looks too big and dumb on me/makes me look fat cos of the stretchy material and they don't make any smaller sizes and i'm not that happy. frankly, the only reason i continue to wear it is because it's for a podcast that i like enough to provide free advertising for regardless of the brand of t-shirt said advertisement is printed on. american apparel's heavier cotton and slimmer fit were much, much nicer. i think i am actually really going to miss them after all.horrendous business practices just make me look better
burn her
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 05 Aug 2010, 00:57
a lot of the band shirts i buy are made on aa tees, and they are nice.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dazed on 05 Aug 2010, 01:32
Yeah, I went to an Umphrey's show on Sunday night, bought a T, and it's an AA shirt. It is incredibly comfy. I think my hazards of love tour shirt is AA as well, it is similarly comfy. It would be kind of a shame if concert Ts of the future were less comfy.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: sean on 05 Aug 2010, 08:00
actually when i saw capn jazz like two saturdays ago i got a t shirt and it was a gildan but it was cut exactly like an american apparel shirt. i know i have other shirts in that style too that arn't american apparel (my suis la lune shirt, i think). so uh, dont worry!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 05 Aug 2010, 10:04
Alternative Apparel's shirts are nowhere near as good, it is true. I heard good things about No Sweat Apparel (http://nosweatapparel.com/) but it seems they have ceased trading apart from wholesale trading.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 05 Aug 2010, 14:50
Funny how hard it is to make an honest buck these days when your competitors production costs are subsidised by other people's misery.

Here in Australia we have huge taxes on cigs and they are starting to put taxes on alcohol.  Perhaps some sort of misery tax should be applied to the products coming out of sweatshops.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Emaline on 05 Aug 2010, 15:03
All of my AA shirts(shirt.woot) have holes in them. Except for my Cursive shirt, which is super comfy, and thin, and gets pilly really quickly.

All of them, except the Cursive shirt maybe, are men's shirts. They are not thin or pilly, and some are supposedly the same size, but are not. Maybe its diffrent if you buy directly from AA, but my experience with them hasn't been great. I mean, I love my Cursive shirt, and its probably my favorite shirt, but it'd get more points if it wasn't so pilly.

But with AA going out of business, I wonder what woot shirts are gonna be printed on now, and band shirts too.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 05 Aug 2010, 15:58
Really? None of my AA shirts are pilly and they've held up really well after years at laundromats.
I just like that the generic lady cut is thinner and longer and covers up my tummy, the Bella shirts that most other places use instead of AA are awful, and men's shirts just gape on me.
Boooo.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 05 Aug 2010, 17:18
some are supposedly the same size, but are not.

depends when you bought them - like most brands, AA changes the cut of most of their clothes, even the most basic ones, every so often to improve their fit and keep ahead of the competition. i have things i have bought from AA over the years that, despite apparently being the exact same product, don't fit the same. while this may appear at first to be poor workmanship, it's often just a demonstration of how the cut of that particular tee or tank changed over time. the last t-shirts i bought from AA are longer and slimmer than previous tees i have bought from them and right now they fit REALLY nice, or at least i think so.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 05 Aug 2010, 17:49
Here in Australia we have huge taxes on cigs and they are starting to put taxes on alcohol.  Perhaps some sort of misery tax should be applied to the products coming out of sweatshops.

kinda eerie how much i like that idea

also no sweat was nice, their stuff fit more like gildan
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 05 Aug 2010, 20:06
Funny how hard it is to make an honest buck these days when your competitors production costs are subsidised by other people's misery.

Here in Australia we have huge taxes on cigs and they are starting to put taxes on alcohol.  Perhaps some sort of misery tax should be applied to the products coming out of sweatshops.

Man there have been taxes on alcohol and cigarettes for ages in the states. You Aussies are slow.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 06 Aug 2010, 11:52
Perhaps some sort of misery tax should be applied to the products coming out of sweatshops.

To be fair, American Apparel doesn't sell clothes manufactured in sweatshops either. Their factories aren't anywhere near as "ethical" as they would like you to believe but they pay above minimum wage and grant some healthcare coverage too. It's not great but it's way better than the sweatshops you find abroad.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 06 Aug 2010, 12:13
For one thing, first world nations by and large don't have sweatshops to the extent that a tax would make sense. What that would take is a tariff on foreign goods from countries that are known to employ sweatshops, since you can't really be sure of the exact origins of any one product without a lot of legwork involved.

Naturally, the WTO would never allow such a thing.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 06 Aug 2010, 20:30
I do not think I have ever worn an AA shirt. I guess I do not know what I am missing?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 06 Aug 2010, 20:31
if you have bought or had anything given to you from topatoco in the last 2-3 years, it's almost definitely an AA shirt.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ozymandias on 06 Aug 2010, 22:08
AA shirts are wonderful. So nice.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 06 Aug 2010, 22:22
if you have bought or had anything given to you from topatoco in the last 2-3 years, it's almost definitely an AA shirt.

Or Threadless
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: sean on 06 Aug 2010, 22:44
wait really? all of the threadless shirts i have are threadless brand, not aa.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: allison on 06 Aug 2010, 23:19
Guys, the only answer now is Me to We Style (http://www.metowestyle.com/). Sweatshop free, organic, domestically produced. Read the "about us" section on the website. The shirts fit really well and don't stretch out. Honestly I think they make the best t-shirts I've ever owned.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Aug 2010, 23:39
It is still pretty hard for me to justify $35 for a tee.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 07 Aug 2010, 00:34
wait really? all of the threadless shirts i have are threadless brand, not aa.

They use 3 types of tee shirts and AA happens to be one of them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 07 Aug 2010, 07:08
the only answer now is Me to We Style (http://www.metowestyle.com/).

bookmarked! thanks pal
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 07 Aug 2010, 07:21
It is still pretty hard for me to justify $35 for a tee.

if you are talking about the tees made from viscose from bamboo (the regular ones on the site seem to only be $25), this is THE softest and nicest material you will ever wear in your entire life and it is worth every single penny. all of them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 07 Aug 2010, 07:32
It is still pretty hard for me to justify $35 for a tee.


Ahhhhhaaahahahahahahahahahhahaaaaahhhhaaahaha.


(Cool) T-shirts here are anywhere between $40 and $60. I once bought a hoodie for $130. Clothes in america are so cheap I just buy them all on line and even with shipping it's still cheaper.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: allison on 07 Aug 2010, 07:38
My highschool gets their production cast/crew shirts from Me to We, and when bought in bulk (they do the printing) the shirts are super cheap. It was like $15-$20. I don't think it would be more expensive than AA, if something like Topatoco started getting their shirts from Me to We.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Slick on 07 Aug 2010, 08:17
Me to We, I have a hoodie that I got through work. It is snug and comfy and nice, and my purchase of it was subsidized by my then-place of employ.
I like that many goes to children freeing and things, but I would be much more inclined to buy the shirts if they dropped the prices and let me buy them without tacking that auto-donation on there.
I mean, it is nice that I don't have to auto-compute exchange rates from the states, but threadless on sale is still a much better deal.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 07 Aug 2010, 11:46
It is still pretty hard for me to justify $35 for a tee.


Ahhhhhaaahahahahahahahahahhahaaaaahhhhaaahaha.


(Cool) T-shirts here are anywhere between $40 and $60. I once bought a hoodie for $130. Clothes in america are so cheap I just buy them all on line and even with shipping it's still cheaper.

Hey dude it ain't just the clothes, I'm pretty cheap, too. I pretty much wait till Threadless has a $9 sale or buy most of my clothes second-hand. Even my workshirt (which is just a plain blue tee) only cost me five bucks brand new. Think the most I EVER spent on a tee was $20 for a Pintsize shirt which has been discontinued.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Gemmwah on 07 Aug 2010, 11:53
I couldn't even afford threadless shirts last $9 sale. :(
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: JD on 07 Aug 2010, 12:01
Me to We, I have a hoodie that I got through work. It is snug and comfy and nice, and my purchase of it was subsidized by my then-place of employ.

Oh hey I have one of those. Mine at least is made out of bamboo and organic cotton.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 07 Aug 2010, 12:04
I couldn't even afford threadless shirts last $9 sale. :(

Neither could I, actually. :/

But they should be having one in a month or so, yeah? Hm. Maybe I should go on there now and start mashing "REPRINT THIS PLZ" buttons all over.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 07 Aug 2010, 19:44
Perhaps some sort of misery tax should be applied to the products coming out of sweatshops.

To be fair, American Apparel doesn't sell clothes manufactured in sweatshops either. Their factories aren't anywhere near as "ethical" as they would like you to believe but they pay above minimum wage and grant some healthcare coverage too. It's not great but it's way better than the sweatshops you find abroad.

no i mean i think he was saying that might be a method to get retailers with less legit, sweatshop-associated practices to curb them
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Ladybug on 10 Aug 2010, 06:38
Even my workshirt (which is just a plain blue tee) only cost me five bucks brand new.

The fact that you can get new clothes at $5 is just plain weird. That's about $2 less than I just spent on a non-expensive baguette for lunch.

I'll miss AA shirts if they go bankrupt :/ They are some of the softest shirts I have ever owned, and the three Gildan shirts I own feel like sandpaper compared to them, so I never wear them. Then again, most of my AA shirts are from Threadless, and I could always get their own brand t-shirts, I think I like those as well.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Johnny C on 10 Aug 2010, 11:46
AA might get bought out and charney replaced. the prevailing wisdom was that he was the genius guiding the company but since his advertising strategy clearly isn't working as well as he thinks and the store's gotten way away from the products that were its bread and butter and those were proven to be profitable, someone will probably realize that the concept of unique-fit, american-made everyday clothing that is fashionable, not entirely unreasonable in price and already identified with a brand is worth salvaging.

i'm assuming that the company being in debt would make such a purchase less likely, but it wouldn't be the first bankrupt company to get bought out.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Aug 2010, 09:28
That is a very good point John.

(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/03/28/news/photos_stories/dov_charney--300x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 11 Aug 2010, 13:35
If they don't file their quarterly report by Monday they could get de-listed. This is the second time in a row this has happened.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Zingoleb on 11 Aug 2010, 18:55
Even my workshirt (which is just a plain blue tee) only cost me five bucks brand new.

The fact that you can get new clothes at $5 is just plain weird. That's about $2 less than I just spent on a non-expensive baguette for lunch.


Actually you can buy shirts here for $2 brand new. That blows my mind. Like holy shit.

Of course they're shirts with the outline of America on it and the American flag inside instead of states and on the inside of the shirt in tiny letters it says MADE IN CHINA
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Jace on 11 Aug 2010, 18:58
Sweatshop free,

Whats the point of even buying a shirt not made with the suffering of others
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 11 Aug 2010, 19:59
When I buy a shirt, I want to feel the blood and the sweat of little Chinese workers on my skin. Even after multiple washes.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: johnny5 on 13 Aug 2010, 17:57
I couldn't even afford threadless shirts last $9 sale. :(

Neither could I, actually. :/

But they should be having one in a month or so, yeah? Hm. Maybe I should go on there now and start mashing "REPRINT THIS PLZ" buttons all over.

haha that sucks man you guys are poor

but yeah paying 35 bucks for a shirt is pretty ridik. that's like how much i would like to pay for a pair of alright jeans. valve has a sale on their merch right now
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lunchbox on 13 Aug 2010, 21:12
I pay $70 if I want a nice button-up or blouse in shops around here.
I do most of my shopping on Etsy though, where I can buy a nice vintage shirt for like $35-45 AU and then $10 or so shipping.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Patrick on 14 Aug 2010, 11:45
When I buy a shirt, I want to feel the blood and the sweat of little Chinese workers on my skin. Even after multiple washes.

Why would you ever wash that out. My favorite shirt is covered in the blood of 5 different workers. I don't even wear it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 15 Aug 2010, 03:56
I saw an AA opening up in Leeds not too long ago, the news of its imminent bankruptcy makes me hope they might put a nice bookshop in its place instead.

And I just go to topshop & Marks and Sparks to pick up t-shirts, as long as they are comfortable what the hell does it matter what they look like?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Spluff on 15 Aug 2010, 04:03
(Cool) T-shirts here are anywhere between $40 and $60. I once bought a hoodie for $130. Clothes in america are so cheap I just buy them all on line and even with shipping it's still cheaper.

Jimmy, do you only buy clothes that have been hand crafted by virgins? That is a ridiculous amount of money.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 15 Aug 2010, 04:08
Their t-shirts, the people who see you in tshirts aren't going to judge you on them unless they have something like "Rebel by killing people and blowing shit up" on it. T shirts are there as something to have on when you go for a quick meet up with friends, maybe have a few "nice" ones you take out when you hit the town and don't want to dress up that much, but I still fail to see why the aesthetics are that important.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: jhocking on 15 Aug 2010, 06:31
as long as they are comfortable what the hell does it matter what they look like?

On a totally unrelated note, in the relationship thread you mention not having had a girlfriend all through college.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 15 Aug 2010, 06:36
Totally unrelated I assure you, I am a grotesque shut in with a contemptable personality, my clothing has no impact on that.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 15 Aug 2010, 13:21
It only really matters to you what they look like. I buy fancy underoos because I like them and I think they are pretty and I feel like they make me look nice, even when no one else can see them. If you do not care, then it doesn't matter at all, but other people will likely judge you based on the merits of your appearance.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Alex C on 15 Aug 2010, 13:28
If nothing else you need to be able to fake that you give a shit about other people's aesthetic choices sometimes. It's kinda like how it's hard to get too fond of someone who never laughs at your jokes. A li'l approval now and again is pretty much necessary. Not giving a shit one way or the other about something the vast majority of people care about will stifle things a bit for you. There's really no way around it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: scarred on 15 Aug 2010, 13:44
as long as they are comfortable what the hell does it matter what they look like?

this mindset soon drove sweatsuit+crocs man to kill again
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 16 Aug 2010, 03:22
Awhhh, I don't want to inspire murders...

And I was just meaning for T-shirts really, for proper shirts you should have some concern with them and how they look, its just that (to me at least) t-shirts are the sort of things you wear around friends who you have nothing to proove to, and when you go down to the pub or into town for a sandwhich.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: E. Spaceman on 16 Aug 2010, 03:53
They aren't, you are wrong, welcome to the post 1945 world.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 16 Aug 2010, 03:57
... yeah, you might consider not simply saying "your wrong!" when replying to someone whose laid out reasonable points, mmmmkay?

I go out in shirts when I go out on the town or go to a pub, not everyone does it makes me feel better for doing so, I fail to see how I am any more "wrong" than anyone else is. I'm not even attacking you guys for caring about it, I'm just wondering why.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lines on 16 Aug 2010, 04:55
There are nice t-shirts and there are not nice t-shirts. Nice ones are in good condition, clean, do not have anything inappropriate on them, and fit well. Not nice t-shirts could be any of the following: worn out, ugly, ill-fitting, terribly colored, stained, have stupid graphics or text on them, or are just plain not nice to look at. I have a lot of t-shirts. A LOT. Over half of them do not get worn outside of the house (unless I'm working in the yard) and only some that do are even appropriate for wearing to work. Considering I work retail, it's very ok for me to wear t-shirts. If I had a less casual work environment, I would not wear t-shirts. But for everyday wear, unless you're going someplace fancy, t-shirts are pretty much ok to wear anywhere.

(Grammar Nazi Time: You're wrong, not your wrong.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 16 Aug 2010, 04:59
Also who's, not whose.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 16 Aug 2010, 05:01
Curse my lack of grammatical consistency! Sorry about that guys.

And I meant that t-shirts are okay for that, but if they are for everyday wear it doesn't have to be purely a matter of aesthetic choice in wearing them. I mean just having them clean and comfortable is okay. TBH I don't even know what were arguing about.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: october1983 on 16 Aug 2010, 05:05
But...some people like to look good on a day-to-day basis? Like, not necessarily smart shirt good, but casual good. That's a perfectly valid function for a t-shirt.

And also, as has been stated throughout this thread, part of the reason AA t-shirts are so good is precisely because they are some of the most comfortable and well-fitting t-shirts around!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Josefbugman on 16 Aug 2010, 05:07
Y'see I agree with the first bit and disagree that AA has anything LIKE comfy t-shirts, the ones friends have got (or I got one particularly dull christmas) weren't all that comfy at all and are quite expensive.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Lines on 16 Aug 2010, 07:23
Most of my Threadless t-shirts are AA and all are quite comfy. They're soft, they don't pill, and for the most part they don't shrink out of form too much. (Some lost some length, but not all.) Their ladies' shirts aren't too bad, but I prefer the men's shirts just because they are longer. (I have a long torso. I can't wear Bella babydolls and some other brands because their women's shirts stop at my bellybutton, which is not a nice look!) Yes, they are expensive, but I don't buy them from AA, so hey.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 16 Aug 2010, 20:33
Guys t-shirts are nice to wear and sometimes nice to look at but they are Lazy Dressing. They are the jeans of the above-the-waist world. I mean I wear t-shirts 90% of the time but whenever I put on a real shirt with real actual buttons I instantly feel a whole lot better about myself because I know I've put in a bit of effort today.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 16 Aug 2010, 21:39
Shush up pops!

Also, AA missed their filing deadline this afternoon, which (probably?) means they will be de-listed! Bad times!
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: calenlass on 17 Aug 2010, 08:24
Shush up


what is that
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Aug 2010, 08:28
This week in QC: John Thompson inadvertently reveals himself to be a 68 year-old man, hoisting himself on his own petard
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Dliessmgg on 20 Aug 2010, 06:40
(http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/beckintl/2JlaPBeWxnxnGLd76kf2bTQaZYu2wqL7lRnkcx8Zz0p566CNlCFCME6Aji4r/american_apparel.gif)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: negative creep on 01 Sep 2010, 05:57
I mean I wear t-shirts 90% of the time but whenever I put on a real shirt with real actual buttons I instantly feel a whole lot better about myself because I know I've put in a bit of effort today.

This. A hundred times this.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 01 Sep 2010, 06:45
What, doing up buttons is still a bit of effort for you?  You need to practice more...

:evil:
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 01 Sep 2010, 10:03
It just keeps getting worse (http://gawker.com/5627082/employee-found-dead-at-american-apparel-hq?skyline=true&s=i)...
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 01 Sep 2010, 12:17
Dov's boner-maintenance behavior is escalating.

Seriously though that's terrible.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: MrSteevo on 04 Oct 2010, 23:29
This may not be a picture, but I saw Dov Charney in Victoria today and even talked to him. He was pretty nervous looking but creepy none-the-less...
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 07 Apr 2011, 17:59
On and on and on (http://about-face.org/blog/archives/4698).
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 08 Apr 2011, 04:03
Jesus Christ, releasing naked pictures of the girl to reporters as "proof" she was a willing participant.  And then sites run them.  What the fuck.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 08 Apr 2011, 04:04
Douchebag of the year, every year, forever.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 08 Apr 2011, 06:47
But at least the t-shirts are sooooo comfy, right guys?

 :roll:
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 08 Apr 2011, 08:10
i'm ready to call it quits with AA for good now, actually
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 08 Apr 2011, 08:30
Right at the point where they are about to go bankrupt and cease trading?

That'll learn them.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tania on 08 Apr 2011, 09:29
yeah tania! way to kick em while they're down
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: est on 08 Apr 2011, 18:19
I like the cut of your jib.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Inlander on 08 Apr 2011, 20:37
I'm wearing my one and only American Apparel t-shirt right now. It is this one and I love it:

http://www.galleryac.com/artists/broken-social-scene/bss-shirt-birds-fly-away.html (http://www.galleryac.com/artists/broken-social-scene/bss-shirt-birds-fly-away.html)

I'm sorry guys. I just couldn't bring myself to burn it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Tom on 08 Apr 2011, 20:56
Merch doesn't count, you know that.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Scarychips on 08 Apr 2011, 21:23
I own at least 4 things from AA that aren't merch.

Deal with it.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Tom on 08 Apr 2011, 21:52
(http://i.imgur.com/8D5oA.gif)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KharBevNor on 09 Apr 2011, 09:21
He's an ugly fucker, isn't he?
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 09 Apr 2011, 11:24
If he shaved off the paedo moustache, put on a shirt and maybe got his haircut he'd be... no, actually, he'd still be kind of ugly.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 09 Apr 2011, 12:12
This is more recent
(http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2011/04/charney.jpg)

But he wears thick Terry Richardson glasses on occasion, so it doesn't help.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 09 Apr 2011, 12:22
Oh man he actually took every word of my advice.
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: StaedlerMars on 09 Apr 2011, 12:26
He has tabs on all things that return results for "Dov Charney Photo"
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: KvP on 22 Apr 2011, 12:25
Don't think you won't pay for this Canada (http://jezebel.com/#!5794820/how-a-bunch-of-canadians-saved-dov-charney)
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: tommydski on 22 Apr 2011, 12:47
Oh nice one Canada.

See this is why nobody likes you. Shit like this.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: Here is the Dov Charney Photo Thread
Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Apr 2011, 16:44
I particularly like this quote from another Jezebel article:

Quote
If Dov Charney didn't exist, R. Crumb would have had to invent him