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Fun Stuff => CLIKC => Topic started by: Ozymandias on 21 Feb 2010, 18:36
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Apparently Apple has laid down the law for their App Store and the law is crazy.
1. No images of women in bikinis (Ice skating tights are not OK either)
2. No images of men in bikinis! (I didn’t ask about Ice Skating tights for men)
3. No skin (he seriously said this) (I asked if a Burqa was OK, and the Apple guy got angry)
4. No silhouettes that indicate that Wobble can be used for wobbling boobs (yes – I am serious, we have to remove the silhouette in this pic)
5. No sexual connotations or innuendo: boobs, babes, booty, sex – all banned
6. Nothing that can be sexually arousing!! (I doubt many people could get aroused with the pic above but those puritanical guys at Apple must get off on pretty mundane things to find Wobble “overtly sexual!)
7. No apps will be approved that in any way imply sexual content (not sure how Playboy is still in the store, but …)
via TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/20/app-store-rules-sexy/)
So, uh...WTF mate?
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I agree that there should be no men in bikinis.
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Im way to idealistic for the internet...
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That article makes the very important point though that the rules themselves aren't the most concerning part of what Apple did. Yeah, the rules are ridiculously puritanical, but the biggest worry is how Apple is treating app developers. The second sentence of the article sums it up:
It’s an alarming move on Apple’s part, if only because it shows that the company is willing to throw developers (and their livelihoods) under the bus without any notice at all.
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Frankly I thought seeing titty apps cheapened my whole iPhone experience. And I understand their desire to disassociate their (THEIR) platform from portable porn.
I withhold judgement until we see a final rule set, if in the end all it really affects are titty apps then I am 100% for it, if it has broad ramifications (lets say a fictional mobile version of Bayonetta was also banned) Ill be a bit pissy about it. Also I feel no pity for the devs. I want to make an analogy to Irish potato farmers who rented land, but I cant really make one work. The devs could have diversified at any time instead of sticking in a 'high risk' industry, since obviously this was one of the risks.
Anyway, I personally find it very difficult to be self righteous when the owner of something decides to change it. In fact, I feel the need to righteous defend the owners and their choices/practices (Im looking at you Mr. Charney).
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But iFart is truly enriching iPhone users everywhere.
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You guys remember how the Nintendo Seal of Quality saved video games?
(http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/225_nintendo_seal_of_quality.jpg)
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This is pretty hilarious considering that I can pretty much look up any porn website I want on the iPhone's web browser.
(as long as it doesn't utilise Flash)
Also I listen to pirated music on there like all the time.
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I know right?!? Thats why I support the iPhone Appstore's war on shtitty apps. Back to vid games as a reference point. Wouldnt it be 100% shitty if Xbox Live! Arcade was plastered with crappy quality porn? Have these apps lessens the quality of the experience, the content is still readily available so it absolutely doesnt have to be that way.
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I'd say something here about the possibility of someone creating a well-done app or game that features boobs, but then I remembered that I still wouldn't give a shit and in any case I don't buy apple.
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This isn't a new thing. Apple fucks around with all kind of app content, completely arbitrarily. Fuck 'em.
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I know right?!? Thats why I support the iPhone Appstore's war on shtitty apps. Back to vid games as a reference point. Wouldnt it be 100% shitty if Xbox Live! Arcade was plastered with crappy quality porn? Have these apps lessens the quality of the experience, the content is still readily available so it absolutely doesnt have to be that way.
Most of it is vibrator apps for the controllers.
I ain't feel any worse about my XBox and MS isn't stopping it.
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Did you guys read the article?
Apple already had rules which seemed rational if not already tough, these new rules are basically banning anything which is even remotely considered to have sexual content or could be seen as arousing i.e; an incredibly vague and capricious and brings to mind the US Supreme Court's "I know it when I see it" declaration.
So your speculation re:
I withhold judgement until we see a final rule set, if in the end all it really affects are titty apps then I am 100% for it, if it has broad ramifications (lets say a fictional mobile version of Bayonetta was also banned)
has already been answered. There's no way that something like Bayonetta would make it, if there is a blanket ban on depictions of swimsuits regardless of context Also:
Apple also removed one that featured a popular fitness model in her workout clothes (the app was a marketing vehicle for the athlete’s line of protein powder).
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Who's still fucking stoked on the iPad
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I read the article, and the spirit of the policy seems pretty cut and dry. It sounds like it is going through growing pains while they figure out how exactly to apply it. I wouldnt be surprised if they un-remove some apps.
Even if publicly it has gone 'live' they havent issued specific requirements yet, and internally they still seem to be working out the kinks. If 25 years of existence has taught me anything its the virtues of patience. Seriously, see where this goes. People are coming off a little bit evening news about it and well and the iPad in general, like "Apples new product the iPad does not come with any support for Adobe Flash Media Player. Do to Apples policies your kids might not being using Flash even as we speak!".
But at the end of the day, I 100% support Apples right to enforce its own policies on its own product. These people didnt buy a spot on Apples distribution network, they dont own the right to this service. They had a privilege someone gave them and now they dont. And fuck 'precedent', this isnt the government, this isnt a court of law, this is a Corporation who owns the rights to its products and services. The founding idea behind capitalism is that it is in a companies own best interest to give the people what they want, but it isnt a requirement.
*edit*
I am stoked on the idea of the iPad, but since a large portion of the time I would use it is to/from work riding on the metro where there is no 3G support with my carrier. I think I will wait until they add antennas to allow support in the metro like other phone carriers. In this time, Apple may come out with a second revision which will likely feature improvements on it.
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I actually thought this was a good idea, because I'm sick to fucking death of all these shitty faux porn apps. Now if they could only get rid of all the bullshit fake MMOs/Facebook-like apps where they sell extra points in whatever game it is in the store and these fucking dumb exploitative app packs where they charge for a bunch of free sub-apps it would be a pretty cool next step.
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bawwww now i can't play creepy japanese dating sims on my ipod touch fuck my liiiiife.
ha. (i don't have an ipod touch or iphone fyi)
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It's not so much this that bothers me, but the stories of tons of other apps which don't even have any objectionable content being block that annoys me.
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Not everybody is that complacent.
Joy of Tech (http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/index.html)
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Dude, I think you're getting too up in arms about this.
But yeah, I see your point. Basically, I agree. I think it's dumb that they'd pull "adult content." Why not just have an adult section in the app store?
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I think it's a more more the idea that the current list of what makes it an adult app is anything involving a human being, which is incredibly silly and probably would bother me a lot if I ever bought Apple.
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Explain the Sport's Illustrated app that's one of the top downloaded, atm. Why didn't that get banned? . . .
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Money
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This is incredibly stupid of Apple, IMO.
History has shown time and time again that when a platform tries to purge itself of sexual content (however lame) it will fail.
Refusing to allow porn on their medium killed the betamax, it killed the early alternatives to the modern internet standards, it killed HDDVD, and probably other things further in the past and certainly things further in the future.
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yeah
why the fuck didn't they just hire you to do their job, hey
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Joke's on Apple, they haven't done away with everything (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/horses/id351288564?mt=8) potentially titillating.