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Title: WCT May 3-7, 2010 (1656-1660)
Post by: jwhouk on 02 May 2010, 20:07
So, here's your discussion thread.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 02 May 2010, 20:15
And here's the first reply.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 02 May 2010, 20:22
Hey, YOU try to come up with a witty start to the week! I had a long day today! :P
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 02 May 2010, 20:34
No way.  I refuse to be less lazy than I already am.  
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2010, 21:27
it would be totally irrational if Faye got jealous of Marigold and Sven.

It would unfortunately be in character.

I hope she doesn't.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Moxie on 02 May 2010, 21:37
I hope she does! For the dramaz!  :-o  :-D


Actually, I dunno if I really do or not. I'm expecting her to, though, so maybe she won't.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 02 May 2010, 21:45
I doubt that Faye would be overtly jealous of Marigold and Sven, however, she may mask feelings of that nature (especially from herself) by acting overly protective of Marigold vis-a-vis Sven.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 02 May 2010, 21:58
Faye:  "Mar-bear, don't go with him; he'll completely fuck you over!"

Marigold:  "That's... sort of what I'm hoping for?"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 02 May 2010, 22:26
I wish I could change my vote, because after reading Jeph's tweets for the last few hours, I'd vote for HIM.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 02 May 2010, 22:38
Faye:  "Mar-bear, don't go with him; he'll completely fuck you over!"

Marigold:  "That's... sort of what I'm hoping for?"
I suspect if actually confronted with the prospect of sex, Marigold would flee, screaming. Unless, of course, she was tanked on booze again, but I suspect it's going to take a bit of persuasion to get her to try that again. Of course, Sven presumably still has his 'look.' If he dares use it.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 02 May 2010, 22:48
The "look" doesn't work on everyone. Of course, he claims he missed Hannelore and got Faye instead.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2010, 23:05
Faye broke 'The Look'
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 02 May 2010, 23:08
I'm fairly certain it was a telepathic phenomenon similar to gravitational lensing; where she can manipulate a person's perceptions around her towards something or someone else in the room.  For clarity's sake we could well just call it the Chatham Lensing Effect, as I'm sure her mother has a similar ability and has used it to close many a business deal in a stare-down with the competing CEO.  Hannelore simply is not consciously aware of the ability, yet.  
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 02 May 2010, 23:31
Wouldn't that be the Chatham Shield? Actually, I think 'the look' failed on Hanners because she's more or less sexually innocent, especially as far as interactions go. Wonder if that would mean Marigold would be immune, too? Or is Yaoi replete enough with suchlike that Marigold would know what was intended?

Either way, now I've got Prince's "U Got the Look" stuck in my brain, with only myself to blame. Wait, no, jwhouk started this thread—I'll blame him. Yes, yes, that feels much better! The dream we all dream of.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 02 May 2010, 23:38
I suspect if actually confronted with the prospect of sex, Marigold would flee, screaming.
You must somehow confuse Marigold with Hanners.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2010, 00:30
I like that Crazy Bitch is capitalized. That is now my official substitute for Dora's name.

That said, the third panel has excellent body posture. Kudos to Jeph.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 03 May 2010, 00:31
Sven just wants his book.

"The kid just wanted a car. All The Dude ever wanted was his ruuuuug baaa.......zzzzzz________"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 00:46
Now, to Marigold, Sven may have the allure of the forbidden. Faye's attempts to save her may backfire.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 03 May 2010, 00:46
Can't decide whether to give Faye a rimshot or a Beavis-Butthead snicker.

I suspect if actually confronted with the prospect of sex, Marigold would flee, screaming.
You must somehow confuse Marigold with Hanners.

Same reaction, different reasons. Hanners flees contamination; Marigold's flight would be induced by a cocktail* of fear of embarrassment, inexperience, and sheer awkwardness.

*Yes, I can do it, too!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Shadic on 03 May 2010, 00:58
Poor Sven. Usually I'm not terribly sympathetic towards him, but he just wants his book.  :-(

(Sven is totally going to bang Marigold, by the way.)

(After she showers.)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 03 May 2010, 01:05
Seriously, so far this arc makes me rather jawn.

Or maybe thats because I didnt get enough sleep this weekend.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 01:10
Hope Marigirl finds out in time that Sven is a coxcomb.

Otherwise they're headed for a major cock-up.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: laizeohbeets on 03 May 2010, 01:13
So... Dora told Sven not to make a move on Marigold. Which means... He will. Inadvertently. Because that's how Sven rolls.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 03 May 2010, 01:14
I think the only way Dora and Faye would give Sven a break and the benefit of the doubt is if news his previous attitude at the pub comes somehow to their ears. For example, it's entirely possible that Wil voices some concern about Sven to Penelope.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2010, 01:19
Can't decide whether to give Faye a rimshot or a Beavis-Butthead snicker.

I suspect if actually confronted with the prospect of sex, Marigold would flee, screaming.
You must somehow confuse Marigold with Hanners.

Same reaction, different reasons. Hanners flees contamination; Marigold's flight would be induced by a cocktail* of fear of embarrassment, inexperience, and sheer awkwardness.

*Yes, I can do it, too!
Hope Marigirl finds out in time that Sven is a coxcomb.

Otherwise they're headed for a major cock-up.
*cocks revolver*
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Sorflakne on 03 May 2010, 01:35
So... Dora told Sven not to make a move on Marigold. Which means... He will. Inadvertently. Because that's how Sven rolls.
Or...Dora's planning something...with items from the box of "Party Favors"





Goddammit my mind's been in the gutter a lot recently.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: pendrake on 03 May 2010, 02:05
for comic #1656...

1. "cockatrice", heh.  It was both a chuckle and groan pun from Faye for the readers.

2. Gods help Marigold if Sven does use his "Come Hither" look.  [EDIT ADD: Though I always wondered what might have happened if Sven had successfully used it on Hannelore instead of Faye, way back when... 8-) .]

3. I always enjoy seeing Dora in the guardian role, in this case for Marigold.  Dora knows or feels that Marigold is not yet ready to handle someone like Sven (...yet?).  And with Marigold's recent heartbreak, another negative encounter (even if a casual fling) could backslide Marigold to her shut-in habits again, and I doubt even Hanners could pull her out again.

4. Poor Sven and the assumptions about him; either women throw themselves at him, or are ready to throw a book at his face.  Perhaps a friendly-company meal with Marigold by way of apology for stealing his Crusades...?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Akima on 03 May 2010, 02:12
4. Poor Sven and the assumptions about him; either women throw themselves at him, or are ready to throw a book at his face.  Perhaps a friendly-company meal with Marigold by way of apology for stealing his Crusades...?
Arrrr! These be stormy waters. If Sven is to stay off the rocks, he'd better be a cunning coxswain!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 03 May 2010, 04:21
So Sven was hatched on a dungheap by a rooster? 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: quats on 03 May 2010, 05:50
Now, to Marigold, Sven may have the allure of the forbidden. Faye's attempts to save her may backfire.
Exactly. And if nothing else, they both are likely curious just what all the fuss is about. And Sven was just starting to become less shallow, too... blargleblagh. Terribly risky for both and all because of Dora and Faye's overreacting!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 03 May 2010, 06:18
Meanwhile, Jeph is sitting back and laughing.

At least, when he's not cussing out his new edition of Photoshop.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 03 May 2010, 06:22
'Course Jeph's laughing - at us for prepping the ship to sail.

That ship ain't never had a keel laid down, and shouldn't. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 03 May 2010, 07:34
Honestly, although sven can be an asshole in the past, I dont think he did anything to deserve Dora's threats in this scenario.  I kind of blame Faye from a couple of strips back for putting a romantic/creepy spin on what happened.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 03 May 2010, 08:18
oh god pun overload aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Moxie on 03 May 2010, 09:10
Honestly, although sven can be an asshole in the past, I dont think he did anything to deserve Dora's threats in this scenario.  I kind of blame Faye from a couple of strips back for putting a romantic/creepy spin on what happened.

I think I'm with you on this one, LeeC. Dora seems to be going way more overboard than necessary, and it's probably because of Faye and her own insecurities about Sven and her friends. (I can just see the wheels in her head going, "oh NO, not AGAIN". But I think if she's not careful she's going to alienate Sven (though I am surprised Sven hasn't done that to her!)

Also...wow Faye and Dora. I know Marigold is a totally socially inept person, but she's never gonna learn how to interact if you don't let her. She's embarrassed? Well, have her face Sven and give him the book and apologize, don't turn it into this horrible awful thing - that's probably only gonna make it worse.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 03 May 2010, 09:25
For the record, I think Marigold is a 1000 times more sane person than both Faye and Hanners.

For once, I'm hardly attracted to her. If that isnt a sign then what is ?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 03 May 2010, 10:50
Poor Sven.  Yeah, not something I usually think about him, but his sister assuming the worst about him can hardly be encouraging to him.  Granted, he's sort of earned the reaction based on his past actions, but his most recent behavior is quite contrary to the cavalier attitude he once had regarding other people's feelings vs. his needs.  Sven has basically gone cold turkey on dames.  Dora's reaction tells me that maybe they haven't been communicating much lately, which is sad as well.  Loved the angry postures/expressions in panel 3, and Sven's line to Dora in panel 4 -- Crazy Bitch(TM) is likely genetic, but there's no reason she couldn't have gotten it from both sides.

Also...wow Faye and Dora. I know Marigold is a totally socially inept person, but she's never gonna learn how to interact if you don't let her. She's embarrassed? Well, have her face Sven and give him the book and apologize, don't turn it into this horrible awful thing - that's probably only gonna make it worse.

I completely agree with you here.  The impulse people (Dora being the prime example) seem to have with Marigold is "OMG protect her!", and it some cases that's great, but I think part of the reason she's still so fucking socially inept is that people keep doing this -- leaping in front of her to "save" her from whatever shit is going down.  I would very much like Marigold, at some point, to finally become frustrated enough with that to snap at everyone and say "Stop trying to protect me!  I'm not a delicate fl-- . . . oh crap." 

Somewhere, probably at the library, Marten is sipping and thinking "Mmmm, soda."
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2010, 10:59
For the record, I think Marigold is a 1000 times more sane person than both Faye and Hanners.

For once, I'm hardly attracted to her. If that isnt a sign then what is ?


Yep, having a room so messy that rats were living in it, severe social phobias - Marigold is the picture of mental health. Especially when compared with two people who are in at least in therapy and demonstrably getting better.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LunaCorn on 03 May 2010, 10:59
I just keep laughing to myself because something tells me that Sven and Marigold already know each other, just through other means and not on first name basis.

Of course, I'm probably wrong. Time will tell  :evil:
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 11:52
They could easily be acquainted through World of Warcraft.

Thank you, Hellphyneau, for the "delicate flower" thought.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: michi-love on 03 May 2010, 11:57
I don't think anyone is overreacting here, at all... especially not Dora. It's a sad, sorry thing, but the truth is, her entire life, Dora has watched her older brother fuck around with her friends, and considering what he did to Faye... no, she isn't being a Crazy Bitch, she's being a rightfully protective friend, saving her socially-inept* friend from the same horrors others have had to deal with.

*And while, yes, she won't get any less inept by their not allowing her to socialize... it would be nothing short of disastrous to let Sven do this to her. She can barely cope with the fact that her roommate doesn't want to kiss her - what would she do if she had her first time with Sven? And if he - as he seems to do a lot... - slept with another woman (Gina Riversmith take two?) it would utterly destroy her.

However, if she was to find a nice geeky dude who is not already interested in someone else and not, you know, sharing a home with her, I'm sure they would all encourage her to go for it.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 03 May 2010, 12:05
Amen, Michi-Love. I was thinking it's nice how Sven's ignoring his own contribution to Dora's "Crazy Bitch" state. Some of the comments I've seen seem to want to base Dora's reaction solely on the Sven-Faye debacle, when really, that's just the frosting on a large, fecal cake Sven's been depositing over the years. And his defensiveness isn't doing much to demonstrate any changes. It is entirely possible to be depressed and still emerge the same asshole you were before whatever sent you into your nose-dive, aka some people never learn.

Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 03 May 2010, 12:55
Still, he's probably thinking, "First I run into someone and drop my book, she grabs it and runs away.  Then I go into sis' shop for a drink, and maybe a chat, and boom!  Three people start pointing and screaming, I still don't have my book back, and now I'm being threatened with violence for something that hasn't even crossed my mind.  What's next?"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: The Duke on 03 May 2010, 13:57
The "look" doesn't work on everyone. Of course, he claims he missed Hannelore and got Faye instead.

Actually, I think 'the look' failed on Hanners because she's more or less sexually innocent, especially as far as interactions go.

He did hit Faye with it by accident* - note her blushing in the last panel (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1078).

(...and it kind of worked, big time. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1081))

*Perhaps not by accident, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 03 May 2010, 14:24
The overreaction comes from the fact that Sven really didn't make a move on Marigold.

Although I understand some of the sentiment against Sven, let's not forget here; Faye took the initiative.  All joking aside, it was not 'the look' which somehow seduced her; Faye well knew what she wanted, and for better or worse, she took the first step in having a physical relationship with him.  Sven's problem is that he was receptive, despite the fact that he well knew her problems.  If anything, the man lacks self-control when a woman offers him sex.  But Sven's obviously not going to attempt to seduce Marigold, I mean come on, has there ever been an example of him hitting on someone as naive as she is?  Marigold would have to take the first step here this time, and given her current state, does anyone think she'd actually do it? 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 14:58
Vivianca was dumb at least, which sometimes implies naive. In 798 Faye confronted him with being oriented toward "gullible" women.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2010, 14:58
Michi-love, other peoples, you got that backwards. Her "friends" were fucking around with her brother. He didn't go after them, they went after him. Some guys are really bad at saying no to unattached sexing, and he's one of them. If she were rational she'd be warning off Marigold based off previous patterns (that is, saying banging Sven is a bad idea), not threatening Sven. And the thing with Gina wasn't totally his fault- am I the only one who remembers Faye telling him they were just fuck buddies (well, words to that effect)? Sure, he was wrong and realized that and I'm not trying to minimize that, but still.

And if Marigold's issue was that Angus wouldn't kiss her she'd be fine. No, she freaked because she was utterly infatuated with him and assumed he felt the same- the wedding bells were practically ringing in her ears.

However, my suspicion is that their common ground in WoW (where I suspect they will turn out to be clanmates) is a setup by Jeph to bring them together into friendship, or mor-*herk!*

Still, he's probably thinking, "First I run into someone and drop my book, she grabs it and runs away.  Then I go into sis' shop for a drink, and maybe a chat, and boom!  Three people start pointing and screaming, I still don't have my book back, and now I'm being threatened with violence for something that hasn't even crossed my mind.  What's next?"

Tooth

Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: epoch on 03 May 2010, 17:38
Sven and Marigold! Squeeeeee *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 17:52
Dora knows from 526 if not from experience that Sven takes advantage of rebound situations.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: haikupoet on 03 May 2010, 19:32
Admittedly this is not a proper relationship portmanteau, but....

Sventigold?

(Or perhaps Svengoldi, from Dora's POV?)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 03 May 2010, 20:15
Nice attempts here by Faye and Dora, but one wonders if this will make Sven more of a target for Marigold rather than less - that 'Forbidden Fruit' thing and all.

Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.



That is if Faye, Dora or Hanners doesn't kill him first.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ndperfesser on 03 May 2010, 20:25
Anyone else hoping Jeph cuts to the library?

(see the character twitter feed)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: michi-love on 03 May 2010, 20:31
Marianchi.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2010, 20:31
I can see Jeph leaving this one where it is and moving over to spin another plate.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2010, 20:47
Definitely.  Like any good stew, the current storyline needs time to simmer. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: SleeperCylon on 03 May 2010, 21:26
I know Dora has this 'He got more attention than me' complex from when they were growing up, but that doesn't mean she can meddle in his personal life.

Some of the characters act way too holier than thou to Sven.  His problem is lack of impulse control, but there's nothing inherently wrong with trying to have a lot of casual protected sex.  He never lied to Faye.  He lost her because she gave him an ultimatum and he went against it.  The entire cast acting like he's some manipulative scumbag is kind of overkill.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 03 May 2010, 21:39
I think that Dora's (over)reaction to Sven is less about his interaction with Faye than about the apparently long trail of disgruntled blondes he's left in his wake.  It's all well and good to fuck around, as long as everyone you're fucking around with knows and accepts that you aren't gonna be monogamous.  (Faye wanted to be fuck buddies, then she changed her mind.  Sven knew she'd have a problem with him fucking someone else and did it anyway.  They both fail.)  Dora knows Sven's history, and it's seems to be a history filled with "Oh hey, Dora's friend is sucking my dick, awesome." and "This chick is hot, I'll give her my 'look' and we'll fuck, no prob."  Sven has been willing to stick his dick wherever he wants -- with astounding success -- and hasn't really cared about consequences.  At this point in his life, though, it seems he's rethinking things.  Doesn't mean he's gonna be all noble and shit when he's done being depressed, but I'm not willing to rule out the possibility that he might actually grow the fuck up.  All of them need to grow up, and they are doing so, but it's wicked gradual.  Good thing the process is always hilarious.  Well, in retrospect, or when it's happening to someone else.

Personally, I think it'd be awesome if he and Marigold became friends.  She may need someone other than her roomie to go to for 'brotherly' insights.  Sven is more likely to avoid getting romantically involved with her, not just because he's still on his lil' sex fast (heh, as opposed to the other way around -- zing!), but also because he'll probably want to prove Dora wrong.

It'll be interesting to hear what Momo thinks on the whole thing, assuming she hasn't been rebooting this whole time and has been listening in.  ^_^
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2010, 22:28
I know Dora has this 'He got more attention than me' complex from when they were growing up, but that doesn't mean she can meddle in his personal life.

Some of the characters act way too holier than thou to Sven.  His problem is lack of impulse control, but there's nothing inherently wrong with trying to have a lot of casual protected sex.  He never lied to Faye.  He lost her because she gave him an ultimatum and he went against it.  The entire cast acting like he's some manipulative scumbag is kind of overkill.

To be honest, I don't thnk we've seen a lot of the cast interacting with Sven.  At least, not the guys (except Wil).  Marten, Steve, Angus ... ummm... not a lot of guys in this cast, I guess.  And even some of the ladies have had no more than a passing interaction, like Penelope.  Our opinions are based almost entirely on Faye and Dora (and Lydia, the intern).  And Lydia's one voice I'd kind of like to hear right now.  Last time we saw her, she was trying to turn him into a decent human being. 

Maybe she's made some progress? 

I think that Dora's (over)reaction to Sven is less about his interaction with Faye than about the apparently long trail of disgruntled blondes he's left in his wake. 

Dora used to be blonde...

Nevermind.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 03 May 2010, 22:45
I think that Dora's (over)reaction to Sven is less about his interaction with Faye than about the apparently long trail of disgruntled blondes he's left in his wake. 

Dora used to be blonde...

Nevermind.

More to the point, their Mom is blonde, and is chestier than her daughter . . .  I wonder how Sven would react if his proclivities for falling into bed with younger versions of his Mommy were pointed out to him.  Perhaps something similar to Marigold's morning reaction to bourbon.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 03 May 2010, 23:02
I think that Dora's (over)reaction to Sven is less about his interaction with Faye than about the apparently long trail of disgruntled blondes he's left in his wake.  
Dora used to be blonde...
Nevermind.
More to the point, their Mom is blonde, and is chestier than her daughter . . .  I wonder how Sven would react if his proclivities for falling into bed with younger versions of his Mommy were pointed out to him.  Perhaps something similar to Marigold's morning reaction to bourbon.

No no, lets follow through with on this (I was already writing this up when you last two posted)!  

But Marigold, despite her name, is not blond (nor is Faye), so her reaction still bugs me. But wait- Dora used to be blond, and their mother is blond... Oh Crap. That is some messed up (pop) psychology right there. I smell fanfiction!

I know Dora has this 'He got more attention than me' complex from when they were growing up, but that doesn't mean she can meddle in his personal life.

Some of the characters act way too holier than thou to Sven.  His problem is lack of impulse control, but there's nothing inherently wrong with trying to have a lot of casual protected sex.  He never lied to Faye.  He lost her because she gave him an ultimatum and he went against it.  The entire cast acting like he's some manipulative scumbag is kind of overkill.

Agreed. Every character we see him talk to, and way too many of our fellow forum-goers, seem to think he's an unmitigated douchebag, who may or may not be somewhere on the path to reform. It's like saying "oh, sure you're quitting" to someone trying to give up a drug- completely unhelpful, possibly detrimental. How would we feel if Faye was treated like this about her alcoholism? "That bar you just passed by and got mugged near the entrance of, the one that's kind of oily with a bad social atmosphere? Don't even think of going in there, or there'll be hell to pay."
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 03 May 2010, 23:46
I suspect that Sven's reputation precedes him. If we were privy to off-screen commentary by Dora, I'd bet her discussions about him would be "my lothario brother" (or less printable epithets, like say "Manwhore"). This would probably lead most of the rest of the cast to just pigeonhole Sven as "Dora's brother who sleeps around".

For most people, this is all they actually know about other people. I mean, Angus probably only knew Faye as "the brown-haired barista who sasses heavily", just as the girls only knew him as "that guy with glasses who comes in for an argument then leaves". I think if we all thought about it, there are some people we interact with on a daily basis who we only know one or two things at most about them - they live here or there, and they do this or that.

Sven's got a lot of growing to do (as does most of this cast - sheesh), but it appears that he's doing it. And in the meantime, enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Shadic on 04 May 2010, 00:02
Is it just me, or has Marigold gotten more socially retarded?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2010, 00:16
I don't think she's worse than before, it's just she's trying things she's never done, and not doing very well at them.



Also, it seems Momo is fully functional, she's just doesn't have anything to add (verbally) do the situation.

Her modesty sub-routine appears to be fully functional as well. (panel four)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 04 May 2010, 00:17
Is it just me, or has Marigold gotten more socially retarded?

It's hard to tell. It might be that its just the increased frequen- wait, she was almost perfectly fine at the Smif nerd-con, so nevermind, she does seem to be getting worse. I mean, she can't even frigging talk in this one.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2010, 00:26
The thing with the Smif Con was she was in her element.  Outside of that, she's just as awkward as ever.

She is trying new things, and the gang have brought her out of her shell so to speak, and that's what's making her appear more inept.  She''s probably doing things she has never done before and, on her own, would probably never do.

I'm surprised Momo hasn't shocked Faye at this point.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2010, 00:31
She's probably afraid Faye would drop her.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2010, 00:39
And if nothing else, they both are likely curious just what all the fuss is about. And Sven was just starting to become less shallow, too... blargleblagh. Terribly risky for both and all because of Dora and Faye's overreacting!

Several comments on Dora and Faye's overreacting. Is it breaking down on gender lines? Is it cuz I'm a guy that I say, give Sven a fucking break and stop being all Holier Than Thou?  I hated Sven's casual disregard of womens' feelings as much as anyone, but I don't feel he's in the wrong here.

Remember that Faye did NOT want commitment! So as crummy as you think the drunken Gina Riversmith slip was, STOP beating Sven up about it and putting Faye on a pedestal! If Faye was so hurt by Sven's slippage, I think he's been at least as hurt by her (and Dora's) unfair bullshit.  Or is this a Female-Entitlement issue, that you can declare a fuck-buddy relationship, but really mean YOU OWN HIM?  I call Double-Standard!!

Is it just me, or has Marigold gotten more socially retarded?

It's just you. Jeph just hasn't given her any lines in this drama/commotion. Like many other shy, introverted people, she's watching the people around her act like total douchebags, so I'm left seeing her as yes, more sane.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 04 May 2010, 00:41
The thing with the Smif Con was she was in her element.  Outside of that, she's just as awkward as ever.

She is trying new things, and the gang have brought her out of her shell so to speak, and that's what's making her appear more inept.  She''s probably doing things she has never done before and, on her own, would probably never do.

I'm surprised Momo hasn't shocked Faye at this point.

What, and going to bars and playing dressup (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1471) was her element too? If she was this bad back then she would never have walked into that bar.

She was walking down the street and bumped into someone- and she's been speechless, except when with only people that she already knew, since then. That can't have been the first time this has happened to her, and I really doubt that her response was to freeze up and run every time, possibly with whatever possession smacked into her.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2010, 00:56
Is it just me or does Sven seem intrigued with Marigold?

Is the warning that Dora gave him causing some kind of reaction?

Is he fascinated by her tiny AnhroPC?

Is it the fact that she's the first female he's met in a long time who isn't throwing herself at him or scorning him for being a manwhore?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2010, 01:10
Is it just me or does Sven seem intrigued with Marigold?

Funny, I was noticing that Marigold seems intrigued by Sven...
Understandable, he's the top of the male attractiveness scale, and even a brief fling with him would raise her status significantly, thus boosting her bruised ego and her subsequent dating possiblilities...

Or am I too cynical (realistic)?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2010, 01:16
It's all well and good to fuck around, as long as everyone you're fucking around with knows and accepts that you aren't gonna be monogamous.
The key point. This is what justifies the negative reaction to Sven. He was two-timing Genevieve (680) and although we don't know, we can guess what set off the Quebecouis girlfriend (can't find the strip! I'm a failure!) and the one who threw his guitar out the window (531).

Re: Tomart --
Is there a reason to think Marigirl understands the social game well enough to try for a trophy boyfriend?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: zagraf on 04 May 2010, 01:39
Am I the only one who thinks that what Faye's doing to Momo--who, like the other AnthroPCs, is a sentient being with feelings and not a toy--is really assholish behaviour? And then, in the last panel, she dares to tell Sven to "stop that," when his "Boo" was nothing compared to what she's doing? I've just lost a lot of respect for Faye.  :x
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2010, 01:43
It's all well and good to fuck around, as long as everyone you're fucking around with knows and accepts that you aren't gonna be monogamous.
The key point, indeed!!  Maybe because I've been an adult for the same decades as female empowerment, I've seen women playing the same games as men. I'm not going back to parse every affair of Sven's, to figure out who accepted his obvious wandering, and who was mightily (foolishly) offended. Did most of those blondes really believe she was his One And Only??

Re: Tomart --
Is there a reason to think Marigirl understands the social game well enough to try for a trophy boyfriend?
She probably does in theory, from so many anime plotlines around social games, but not experience. So any moves toward Sven would be stepping into deep waters for her... hence Dora's concern. I'm the last person to want to see Marigold hurt, but I have respect for her resilience and inner strength, unlike some. She has been pushing herself out of her comfort zones, and may be getting googly-eyes for Sven (that guest strip art was good!) but someone should warn her that she'd only be another notch for him.

But more importantly, there are dramatic possibilities for Jeph here!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 04 May 2010, 01:52
Christ, he's flirting! Kick 'em inna fork!

Several comments on Dora and Faye's overreacting. Is it breaking down on gender lines? Is it cuz I'm a guy that I say, give Sven a fucking break and stop being all Holier Than Thou?  I hated Sven's casual disregard of womens' feelings as much as anyone, but I don't feel he's in the wrong here.

Remember that Faye did NOT want commitment! So as crummy as you think the drunken Gina Riversmith slip was, STOP beating Sven up about it and putting Faye on a pedestal! If Faye was so hurt by Sven's slippage, THAT'S ON HER!  Or is this a Female-Entitlement issue, that you can declare a fuck-buddy relationship, but really mean YOU OWN HIM?  I call Double-Standard!

Again, Dora's reaction is not about Faye. This is about Sven's lifetime of behavior, either douchy or non-thinking (the Faye thing is just a part of that), have it as you will, catching up to him.

Michi-love, other peoples, you got that backwards. Her "friends" were fucking around with her brother. He didn't go after them, they went after him. Some guys are really bad at saying no to unattached sexing, and he's one of them.
You write as though Sven simply picked up some  of Dora's friends at school. They went after him in the Bianchi house, sleeping over with Dora and posing as her friend just so they could get to Sven's room (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107). Even the dimmest bulb would have to figure that out after a while, and whatever else he may be, I've seen no evidence that Sven is stupid. What I have seen plenty of evidence for is that he tries really hard not to take any responsibility for any damage, any hurt he causes.

Sven put his dick before his sister's self-esteem and feelings, which tells me he is a dick, or was. I don't really think he actually sets out to be such, but I also don't think Sven spends much time, if any, worrying about what happens to other people, and the damage he causes is the same. That means that Dora, who does care about what happens to other people (probably as a result of being shit on by her brother), winds up having to run interference to save her friendships or just to save girls she likes from being screwed over, literally. Having to be Sven's 'keeper,' taking responsibility because he won't, is enough to make anyone edgy, to say the least—hence the blow-up a few comics before the one I linked to. Want any more proof? His thought is never "I might hurt someone," is it? It's "Dora's going to kill me." Christ, Sven lets his sister be his conscience. After all, why should he have do that job?

And, no, Sven doesn't deserve a break about the subject until he actually shows he's changed, and moping in a bar doesn't exactly scream change to me—it could just as easily mean "poor me, I feel bad, and I don't know why." And Dora's nicer than she should be: right now, she could (and possibly should) be whacking him on the back of the head. Yes, you could say "Sven doesn't know what Marigold's situation is, yadda yadda," but the truth is, until he shows her otherwise, that as far as Dora knows, he doesn't care. So she has to play grown man (and I use the term very loosely)'s conscience again.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: TheReaper on 04 May 2010, 01:57
I still WANT to dislike Sven, but dammit if he isn't growing on me like...a rash, I guess?
Though he'd probably know more about itching than anyone else.

Is it just me, or has Marigold gotten more socially retarded?

It's hard to tell. It might be that its just the increased frequen- wait, she was almost perfectly fine at the Smif nerd-con, so nevermind, she does seem to be getting worse. I mean, she can't even frigging talk in this one.
She did just accidentally mug some dude of his interesting reading and then run into him at a coffee shop. And "almost" is the key word there, because she still managed to panic and fumble her flee action.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 04 May 2010, 02:12
Meh, leave Marigold alone.

She got her heart broken.

Nothing wrong with a bit akwardness afterwards.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2010, 02:25
hehe poor momo trying to keep her skirt from falling down.  and I think in the same situation I would have done the same thing as sven.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Dliessmgg on 04 May 2010, 02:44
Did anyone else notice that Sven might have shrinking powers? I mean, why is Marigold one head shorter in the last panel? Hiding behind Faye can't do that much.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2010, 02:58
Good analysis, raoullefere. Got me to re-think some.

But:
And Dora's nicer than she should be: right now, she could (and possibly should) be whacking him on the back of the head.
What? At the moment she took him outside, he didn't even know who Marigold was.

I used to throw my children up in the air and catch them; they liked it. But then they got too big and heavy, so I had to stop.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Somebody on 04 May 2010, 03:07
Am I the only one who thinks that what Faye's doing to Momo--who, like the other AnthroPCs, is a sentient being with feelings and not a toy--is really assholish behaviour? And then, in the last panel, she dares to tell Sven to "stop that," when his "Boo" was nothing compared to what she's doing? I've just lost a lot of respect for Faye.  :x
Nope - it most certainly is (and is it just me, or has Momo shrunk? I'm pretty sure she was at least 1.5x the size she's been since she climbed into Marigold's hoodie before, just smaller than Pintsize)

And Momo must REALLY be regretting her insistance on going for a Mari-ride now...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: zagraf on 04 May 2010, 03:11
I used to throw my children up in the air and catch them; they liked it.

And I've done the same with my nephews, who also liked it. But on the odd occasion when I would pick one of them up and he said "No" or struggled or whatever, because he wasn't in the mood, I would respect that and put him back down.

Leaving aside the fact that Momo isn't a child (she looks like one, but clearly has an adult's intelligence), in today's strip she is clearly not enjoying being tossed in the air, and yet Faye is either oblivious to that or deliberately ignoring it for her own amusement. Hence my disgust with her in this comic.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2010, 03:24
Yeah, I've lost respect for Faye, too. She's become an insensitive bully.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2010, 03:28
Become?

Faye's got a mean streak down her back a mile wide, and she always has.

She must have been a holy terror in high school.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LTK on 04 May 2010, 03:35
I've mentioned this before, but Faye's experience with AnthroPCs comes just from Pintsize. And you know Pintsize. So there is no reason for her to have any respect for artificial intelligence.

Sven, on the other hand, went from *crazy bitch victim* to *being a dick* in the space of, uh, maybe five minutes. Marigold is obviously still embarassed as hell that she just took some guy's book like that, Sven could at least try to tell her "No hard feelings" or something.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 04 May 2010, 04:19
Hah!  First two panels are another homage to Azumanga Daioh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huWKSYUX5Fs), aren't they!  :P

Also, Marigold running away from Sven's boo is cute as hell. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 04 May 2010, 04:37
Poor Marigold.

Poor Momo.

Poor Faye in 3... 2... 1...

*BZZZZZT*

Anyone else realize that Panels 1 and 4 are just more opportunities for Faye to peek under Momo's skirt? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1624

I think Faye might be... a Robolesbian. Maybe just Robo-curious.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 May 2010, 04:49
...what does any of this have to do with Chiyo and Osaka?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 04 May 2010, 05:05
Anyone else realize that Panels 1 and 4 are just more opportunities for Faye to peek under Momo's skirt? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1624

I think Faye might be... a Robolesbian. Maybe just Robo-curious.


Maybe Ro-bi-curious, but I don't think a Robolesbian.  True, she's never shown any physical curiosity about Pintsize or Winslow, but they're not dressed - nothing to be curious about!  But Momo's a lot more humanoid than the others, and obviously has something to hide with the cute sailor's outfit. 

I wonder what Faye would have done with Hanner's trainer-boyfriend (especially with the tackle upgrade)? 

In all honesty, I'm sure it's just the curiosity of a good engineer - "I wonder how far they went with this...?" 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: michi-love on 04 May 2010, 05:11
Blah blah blah.

I want them to be friends, so she's all less awkward, and no one has to worry about him fucking her. To me, that would not make sense for either of those characters.

But I do want them to become friends, because I like Sven and Marigold both... oh, and as everyone keeps mentioning, the WoW connection seems fun. I'd just love to see Marigold actually interacting with him instead of cowering in fear. Yeah.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Akima on 04 May 2010, 05:58
Nope - it most certainly is (and is it just me, or has Momo shrunk? I'm pretty sure she was at least 1.5x the size she's been since she climbed into Marigold's hoodie before, just smaller than Pintsize)
It's not you, Momo has definitely shrunk a lot since, for example, this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1412).

I love the toxic-coffee poster, by the way.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 06:46
Is it just me or does Sven seem intrigued with Marigold?

Funny, I was noticing that Marigold seems intrigued by Sven...
Understandable, he's the top of the male attractiveness scale, and even a brief fling with him would raise her status significantly, thus boosting her bruised ego and her subsequent dating possiblilities...

Or am I too cynical (realistic)?

I personally don't think any thoughts of Sven other than "omigodomigodomigod he's gonna KILL me for taking his book" have entered her mind at this point.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 06:51
Become?

Faye's got a mean streak down her back a mile wide, and she always has.

She must have been a holy terror in high school.

Oh, it sounds like she was pretty normal in HS. I think it wasn't until after the events described in 503 that she became Mad At The World (tm).
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 06:55
Nope - it most certainly is (and is it just me, or has Momo shrunk? I'm pretty sure she was at least 1.5x the size she's been since she climbed into Marigold's hoodie before, just smaller than Pintsize)
It's not you, Momo has definitely shrunk a lot since, for example, this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1412).

I love the toxic-coffee poster, by the way.

Momo has most DEFINITELY shrunk. She should be larger than the book, and in that last panel she looks like she's smaller.

I blame Jeph's crappy new Photoshop program. #### Adobe.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 04 May 2010, 09:23
Good analysis, raoullefere. Got me to re-think some.

But:
And Dora's nicer than she should be: right now, she could (and possibly should) be whacking him on the back of the head.
What? At the moment she took him outside, he didn't even know who Marigold was.
I meant after the 'boo.'
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 04 May 2010, 09:43
After the Boo? Why?

I don't think it was that bad...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Moxie on 04 May 2010, 09:51
Am I the only one who thinks that what Faye's doing to Momo--who, like the other AnthroPCs, is a sentient being with feelings and not a toy--is really assholish behaviour? And then, in the last panel, she dares to tell Sven to "stop that," when his "Boo" was nothing compared to what she's doing? I've just lost a lot of respect for Faye.  :x
Become?

Faye's got a mean streak down her back a mile wide, and she always has.

I've mentioned this before, but Faye's experience with AnthroPCs comes just from Pintsize. And you know Pintsize. So there is no reason for her to have any respect for artificial intelligence.

No, I agree that Faye has repeatedly acted inconsiderately towards Momo. And regardless of her interactions with Pintsize, she's now had interactions with Momo and learned a little bit about what Momo expects, so to act like that towards her now really indicates her mean, bullying streak.




And, no, Sven doesn't deserve a break about the subject until he actually shows he's changed, and moping in a bar doesn't exactly scream change to me—it could just as easily mean "poor me, I feel bad, and I don't know why."
At least with the "poor me" stuff it is possible he is trying to figure stuff out. He very well could just be moping, it is true and probably more likely, but there is the chance that it is growth.



and I think in the same situation I would have done the same thing as sven.
Me too, LeeC. Me too. And really, just because. It's not that often you run into a person who apparently can't respond at all, so you just want to trysomething to know if that works. I thought Sven took it easy on her, actually.



Sven, on the other hand, went from *crazy bitch victim* to *being a dick* in the space of, uh, maybe five minutes. Marigold is obviously still embarassed as hell that she just took some guy's book like that, Sven could at least try to tell her "No hard feelings" or something.
I really think he was trying to (with the whole "I'm glad you didn't drop it or throw it away") and he did tell her thank you and he quite possibly could have been getting to the "no hard feelings" part of it, but she was just standing there. Kinda unresponsive to his words. Looking terrified. Sure it wasn't nice, but like I said, probably was something I would do to. You don't really expect someone to look terrified when you're trying to thank them for something. So is she actually listening? He tested that.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Beaten by Nuns on 04 May 2010, 10:02
I actually think that when Sven and Marigold finally get to know each other that they will find out that they already know each other - Think back to comic # 1424, It is hinted that Sven spent most of his time after the breakup with Faye sitting around playing World of Warcraft and sleeping. He managed to write one song, but it implies that he is an avid Warcraft player. It isn't a huge stretch to think that they might already know each other through the online game alone - Hell, they could be a part of the same guild and not even know it.

If not - at least they have something in common that they could talk about.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: MegaLexi on 04 May 2010, 10:09
Hah!  First two panels are another homage to Azumanga Daioh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huWKSYUX5Fs), aren't they!  :P

Also, Marigold running away from Sven's boo is cute as hell.  

Oh god damn it, you beat me. It does strike me as funny that Momo would be preprogrammed for AzuDai poses when tossed in the air. I was half-wondering if she was going to pull a Kagura there for a minute.

Edit: As for her size, would it really surprise any of you if Marigold had a super-small spare body for Momo lying around somewhere for ease of portability? It's like the AnthroPC equivalent of a netbook or something, except it's tossable and has a built-in tazer.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: GG Crono on 04 May 2010, 10:36
This is what popped into my head upon seeing the last panel.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/xdcb5t.png)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2010, 11:43
Quote from: Zagraf
Am I the only one who thinks that what Faye's doing to Momo--who, like the other AnthroPCs, is a sentient being with feelings and not a toy--is really assholish behaviour?
That bothered me too. Even if Momo-tan were a toy, she'd be someone else's toy.
Quote from: Raoullefere
Having to be Sven's 'keeper,' taking responsibility because he won't, is enough to make anyone edgy, to say the least—hence the blow-up a few comics before the one I linked to. Want any more proof? His thought is never "I might hurt someone," is it? It's "Dora's going to kill me." Christ, Sven lets his sister be his conscience. After all, why should he have do that job?
+4 Insightful.
Quote from: Dllessmgg
Did anyone else notice that Sven might have shrinking powers? I mean, why is Marigold one head shorter in the last panel? Hiding behind Faye can't do that much.
Marigold is a shrinking violet.
Quote from: Tomart
I used to throw my children up in the air and catch them; they liked it.
It's different in this case: your children were enjoying it, whereas Momo-tan did not seem happy at all.
Quote from: Zagraf
Leaving aside the fact that Momo isn't a child (she looks like one, but clearly has an adult's intelligence),
Adult intelligence for sure, and capable of taking charge of a situation, but considering the arc where she played WoW for Marigold, she was not acting particularly mature.
Quote from: MegaLexi
As for her size, would it really surprise any of you if Marigold had a super-small spare body for Momo lying around somewhere for ease of portability? It's like the AnthroPC equivalent of a netbook or something
I like this! Momo seems to be a top-of-the-line model, it would make perfect sense that she'd come with accessories such as a compact chassis.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 04 May 2010, 12:20
This is what popped into my head upon seeing the last panel.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/xdcb5t.png)

I like it!  And since Momo actually has the ability to zap people, she would indeed be useful for self-defense.  ^_^  And yes, what Faye is doing to her is wrong, but it still made me giggle.  As did Sven saying "Boo" to Marigold -- I mean, hell, she's cowering like a shy four-year-old even as he's thanking her for giving the book back.  Marbear's gonna need something more substantial than cocoa soon, methinks.

I've been saying since last year that I'd like to see Sven and Marigold have a WoW connection.  Any configuration Jeph could come up with for something like that would no doubt be funny, considering the differences in Marigold's demeanor between in-game and IRL.  I love the idea of Sven being like "Wait, you're the one who ganked me and then camped my corpse for 6 hours straight?"  And one of the reasons I don't want to see them paired is because it would be refreshing for Sven to form a relationship with a female non-family member that did not involve his dick falling into her.  So far, his intern's the only one who's been spared that (as far as we know).

Of course, now I'm wondering if Sven, upon leaving CoD, will run smack into Angus outside.  Oops, shouldn't have said that -- now someone's gonna ship them too.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 04 May 2010, 12:24
Follow-up thought: I like the subtext of the "NO TOUCHY" sign over the light switch in the shop that's been appearing in the background near Sven in the last couple strips.  Sneaky and funny.   8-)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Wiregeek on 04 May 2010, 13:29
I really like the idea of a cupcake-sized Momo-tan chassis.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Binary on 04 May 2010, 13:32
Hah!  First two panels are another homage to Azumanga Daioh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huWKSYUX5Fs), aren't they!  :P
See, this is why I like this forum. I need you guys to explain this really obscure shit for me.

Half of Dresden Codak's stuff whooshes over my head since he killed his forum.

...what does any of this have to do with Chiyo and Osaka?

Google tells me Chiyo & Osaka are characters from the above-mentioned Azumanga Daioh, also "Chiyo is smart, cute and charming while Osaka is naive and interesting. Together, they make one of my favorite anime comedy pairings" (http://hop.to/chiyoosaka). So I'm guessing Chiyo = Momo and Osaka = Marigold?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 04 May 2010, 14:11
Here, I'll take frames from my prior link post to better illustrate...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/idss3c.jpg)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 04 May 2010, 14:18
Yeah, I've lost respect for Faye, too. She's become an insensitive bully.
...

What the heck are you talking about ????

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=13
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=25
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=46
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=67

BECOME ???

She got more decent !!!!


I personally don't think any thoughts of Sven other than "omigodomigodomigod he's gonna KILL me for taking his book" have entered her mind at this point.
Err .. hu ?

I am very confused about the funny ideas some people here have ... sometimes.

She's just so akward because Sven is so attractive. Isnt that obvious ?!?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2010, 14:25
Momo should shock Faye just to make the point.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 14:30
I personally don't think any thoughts of Sven other than "omigodomigodomigod he's gonna KILL me for taking his book" have entered her mind at this point.
Err .. hu ?

I am very confused about the funny ideas some people here have ... sometimes.

She's just so awkward because Sven is so attractive. Isnt that obvious ?!?

...coming from someone who's been in her shoes? No.

Good LORD people, do you think sexual attraction is EVERYTHING in life?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Wiregeek on 04 May 2010, 14:38
I personally don't think any thoughts of Sven other than "omigodomigodomigod he's gonna KILL me for taking his book" have entered her mind at this point.
Err .. hu ?

I am very confused about the funny ideas some people here have ... sometimes.

She's just so awkward because Sven is so attractive. Isnt that obvious ?!?

...coming from someone who's been in her shoes? No.

Good LORD people, do you think sexual attraction is EVERYTHING in life?

Obviously, they do. If Jeph ever draws full-on nudity or god help us all explicit sex, the forums will explode in a sticky, faintly bleach-smelling manner.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LTK on 04 May 2010, 14:38
I've been saying since last year that I'd like to see Sven and Marigold have a WoW connection.  Any configuration Jeph could come up with for something like that would no doubt be funny, considering the differences in Marigold's demeanor between in-game and IRL.  I love the idea of Sven being like "Wait, you're the one who ganked me and then camped my corpse for 6 hours straight?"  And one of the reasons I don't want to see them paired is because it would be refreshing for Sven to form a relationship with a female non-family member that did not involve his dick falling into her.  So far, his intern's the only one who's been spared that (as far as we know).

Even better: When they find out they are acquainted through WoW, the roles turn and Mar-bear goes berserk about the time Sven acted like an asshole in the game, turning him into a cowering puppy. REVENGE!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Binary on 04 May 2010, 15:37
Here, I'll take frames from my prior link post to better illustrate...

Right, so the title is simply a reference to Momo's gymnastics.

The London judge awards 6.0, 6.0.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Eddurd on 04 May 2010, 16:37
Oh, and Jeph?  Welcome to the ranks of Photoshop Haters.  Only FIVE crashes?  You got off easy.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Ferahgo the Assassin on 04 May 2010, 17:29
Faye is totally looking up Momo's skirt in the first panel.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2010, 18:27
I hope she gets a face full of eel.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 04 May 2010, 18:43
Or Momo gets pissed off enough to go into Overfiend mode.

Edit:  Or in lieu of today's comic, magical girl mode?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 04 May 2010, 19:44
Here, I'll take frames from my prior link post to better illustrate...

(http://i41.tinypic.com/idss3c.jpg)

Looks coinncidental to me...

I've seen ragdolls do the same poses when tossed.  There's not a lot of room for variation! 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 04 May 2010, 19:45
Looks coinncidental to me...

I've seen ragdolls do the same poses when tossed.  There's not a lot of room for variation!  

The characters represented were Chiyo, and Osaka.  He meant to do it! 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 04 May 2010, 19:49
Momo should shock Faye just to make the point.
After Faye puts her down. Pyrrhic victories suck.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 04 May 2010, 19:49
Early comic?  It's the end times!  

Hanners Dad needs to get to work on this project now!  

I guess Momo's already tired of the Sosuke doll...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: NeverQuiteGoth on 04 May 2010, 20:19
Momo seducing Sven, possibly the funniest thing ever?
 :-D

I love the title "Theoretically Possible".
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: MegaLexi on 04 May 2010, 20:23
Hahahaha, that was unexpected.

Theory: Sven's stare is a lot like trying to one-hand a sawn-off side-by-side twelve gauge. Within, say... five feet or so? It will hit and obliterate what you want it to. Beyond that, there's a rather good chance you're going to catch an innocent bystander. Poor Momo's gonna overheat if she isn't careful.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 04 May 2010, 20:26
I love the title "Theoretically Possible".

seconded!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: MrMonk on 04 May 2010, 20:30
OK. That made me laugh.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Akima on 04 May 2010, 20:47
Sven's stare is a lot like trying to one-hand a sawn-off side-by-side twelve gauge.
It gives him a broken wrist?

I love the idea of Sven being like "Wait, you're the one who ganked me and then camped my corpse for 6 hours straight?"
Hmmm... Somehow Marigold doesn't strike me as the type to camp. I imagine her as being way too good to need to do that. Unless she was punishing someone perhaps. But Sven I can certainly imagine being an in-game dick, or perhaps a Leroy Jenkins.

And sexy Momo-san (way too mature for -chan, never mind -tan) is sexy. Kudos to Jeph.

Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: quats on 04 May 2010, 20:49
*snerk*....
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahagaspwheeezehaheee....

After all the fretting over shipping and crushes and attraction and character development and if he'd be GOOD for poor Marbear and..... and it's MOMO who gets the (robotic) hormones a-flowin'. Perfect!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2010, 20:53
What does it mean that Winslow is apparently asexual?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 04 May 2010, 21:00
BIGMEGAUBER-ROTFL !!!!

Funniest QC ever.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 21:00
What does it mean that Winslow is apparently asexual?
It means that Apple products aren't sexy? ;)

And as for our poll:
Who is the most terrified of this whole "lost book" situation?

Marigold    - 25 (26.6%)
Sven    - 7 (7.4%)
Dora    - 7 (7.4%)
Faye    - 9 (9.6%)
Momo    - 16 (17%)
Hannelore    - 1 (1.1%)
Jeph    - 29 (30.9%)

Total Voters: 94
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 04 May 2010, 21:06
Bahahaha -- awesome!  It seems Momo's internal onan subroutine is running?   :wink:  I guess my first clue should have been the robot pic on the wall to Sven's right in panel 1.  For a sec, I thought it might be Robot Frank http://robot-frank.com/ (http://robot-frank.com/), but . . . it isn't.  I like that Momo's nearly as tall as he is in her fantasy.

I love the idea of Sven being like "Wait, you're the one who ganked me and then camped my corpse for 6 hours straight?"
Hmmm... Somehow Marigold doesn't strike me as the type to camp. I imagine her as being way too good to need to do that. Unless she was punishing someone perhaps. But Sven I can certainly imagine being an in-game dick, or perhaps a Leroy Jenkins.

At least he has chicken?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 04 May 2010, 21:37
Too bad we didn't get the next panel, when one of Momo's 'upgrades' perks up the front of her skirt.

'Lovedoll' chassis with strength-enhanced Manga-mod………… $25,000
Custom anal eel livewell/ deployer………………………………………… $200
Eel…………………………………………………………………………………………$30
"Destroyer" size Futanari attachment……………………………………… $400
Sven's expression when he feels it pressing against him
while in Momo's sensuous, silicone-gloved, steely grip…………… priceless

Pervocard—you won't fuckin' believe what you can buy with it.

What does it mean that Winslow is apparently asexual?
That Hanners is also, in a sense, asexual. If you want to know more, this was discussed at length in separate thread about AnthroPC's.

Edit: found it, apparently after the comments surge subsides, search starts working. http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24620.msg925334/topicseen.html#msg925334
Hmm, may need to fire that puppy up again, in lieu of Jeph's comment.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: zacha on 04 May 2010, 21:45
Looks coinncidental to me...

I've seen ragdolls do the same poses when tossed.  There's not a lot of room for variation!  

The characters represented were Chiyo, and Osaka.  He meant to do it! 

Also I think Jeph sometime before has made it very clear that Azumanga Daioh is a large inspiration when drawing "anime-style".
Somewhere in his livejournal I think...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ndperfesser on 04 May 2010, 22:14

Good LORD people, do you think sexual attraction is EVERYTHING in life?

To paraphrase the Great God Lombardi (well, honestly to me he was a two bit pissant that got lucky, but YMMV) "It isn't everything, it's the only thing."
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: kiss-o-kill on 04 May 2010, 22:26
wat.

And here I thought I stopped following Megatokyo YEARS ago!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2010, 22:38
momo and sven sitting in a tree...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2010, 22:41
Good LORD people, do you think sexual attraction is EVERYTHING in life?
To paraphrase the Great God Lombardi (well, honestly to me he was a two bit pissant that got lucky, but YMMV) "It isn't everything, it's the only thing."

...I see what you did there. :P

Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mojo on 04 May 2010, 22:45
Quote
No one is quite sure who decided it would be useful for artificial intelligences to posess libidos, but it is generally agreed that it would be more trouble than it is worth to remove it. Besides, the horny little buggers would revolt.

Umm...  No one tell Pintsize.  He seems to have one of those military-grade libidos.  Probably came with the laser.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: haikupoet on 04 May 2010, 23:04
One can only hope Momo never finds out about Winslow's android body. She'll be harassing Hannelore's dad for weeks if she does.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ross_teneyck on 05 May 2010, 00:26
Do you hear that?  That's the sound of ten thousand fanfic writers booting up their laptops.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 05 May 2010, 01:03
[quote ]Hannelore somehow uploaded a "crush" virus to her server
[/quote]

I don't think Hanners would do something like that.









...but I wouldn't put it past Pintsize.


Also, dog ownership seems to be good for Jeph's sleep/update schedule. (here's hoping that lasts.)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: michi-love on 05 May 2010, 01:13
I think this is the first time I've been creeped out by something actually in the comment. Sure, the forums, yeah. This is an effing scary, creepy place. but the comic is usually safe.

However, I saw the pink hair and the outfit and my eye twitched a bit.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: dsvella on 05 May 2010, 01:22
If Jeph ever draws full-on nudity or god help us all explicit sex, the forums will explode in a sticky, faintly bleach-smelling manner.

That made me lol.

Siged.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 05 May 2010, 02:04
I personally don't think any thoughts of Sven other than "omigodomigodomigod he's gonna KILL me for taking his book" have entered her mind at this point.
Err .. hu ?

I am very confused about the funny ideas some people here have ... sometimes.

She's just so awkward because Sven is so attractive. Isnt that obvious ?!?

...coming from someone who's been in her shoes? No.

Good LORD people, do you think sexual attraction is EVERYTHING in life?

Obviously, they do. If Jeph ever draws full-on nudity or god help us all explicit sex, the forums will explode in a sticky, faintly bleach-smelling manner.

I cant help but wonder where the hell I wrote anything about "sexual attraction". Surely not in the quoted posting, at least.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LTK on 05 May 2010, 04:17
Well, that was unexpected. When I saw the second panel of the comic I thought "Wait, is this Sven's fantasy?"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Blackjoker on 05 May 2010, 04:25
Seriously, Svens eyes need to be studied to see if contacts can be mass produced to duplicate the effects.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 05 May 2010, 05:44
haha, how about that.
you know, this reminds me of a certain sailor moon episode. Usagi and Chibiusa get their ages swapped (i was gonna say bodies, but then chibiusa ended up looking hotter than she would if that were the case) and some hilarity similar to this one ensues, albeit that one was no fantasy
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 05 May 2010, 06:20
I cant help but wonder where the hell I wrote anything about "sexual attraction". Surely not in the quoted posting, at least.

(ahem)

She's just so awkward because Sven is so attractive. Isnt that obvious ?!?

Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 05 May 2010, 06:37
I suddenly wondered if anyone else had noticed that Momo-san's sailor fuku looks an awefully lot like Marbear's hoodie. Anyone else see it, or am I insane now?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Varian7 on 05 May 2010, 08:15
Awesome comic!  Can't wait to see where Jeph goes with this!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Sorflakne on 05 May 2010, 08:47
Today's comic was a literal 'Wtf?!' moment.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: michi-love on 05 May 2010, 08:48
haha, how about that.
you know, this reminds me of a certain sailor moon episode. Usagi and Chibiusa get their ages swapped (i was gonna say bodies, but then chibiusa ended up looking hotter than she would if that were the case) and some hilarity similar to this one ensues, albeit that one was no fantasy

Yesss! I saw her hair in this comic and went "... Chibiusa?" for about half a second, then the theoretical sexing became obvious and my brain burned that out.
I would like to keep my favorite anime since I was a child... innocent. :/
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Wiregeek on 05 May 2010, 09:08
haha, how about that.
you know, this reminds me of a certain sailor moon episode. Usagi and Chibiusa get their ages swapped (i was gonna say bodies, but then chibiusa ended up looking hotter than she would if that were the case) and some hilarity similar to this one ensues, albeit that one was no fantasy

Yesss! I saw her hair in this comic and went "... Chibiusa?" for about half a second, then the theoretical sexing became obvious and my brain burned that out.
I would like to keep my favorite anime since I was a child... innocent. :/


Why? Sailor Moon porn is wonderful
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 05 May 2010, 11:10
I feel a great disturbance in the Force. Like the sound of ten thousand fanfic writers booting up their laptops.
Fix'd it for you.  :-D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 05 May 2010, 11:46
I cant help but wish I had a MMO character who looked like Momo in todays comic. :angel:

She's just SO cute in panel 2.  :-D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2010, 12:01
Especially the monster ponytails. 

I wonder if they're prehensile...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 05 May 2010, 12:10
haha, how about that.
you know, this reminds me of a certain sailor moon episode. Usagi and Chibiusa get their ages swapped (i was gonna say bodies, but then chibiusa ended up looking hotter than she would if that were the case) and some hilarity similar to this one ensues, albeit that one was no fantasy
Yesss! I saw her hair in this comic and went "... Chibiusa?" for about half a second, then the theoretical sexing became obvious and my brain burned that out.
I would like to keep my favorite anime since I was a child... innocent. :/
Episode 158
Wait til she tries to get back into her old clothes, les yay fanservice?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Dliessmgg on 05 May 2010, 12:12
Especially the monster ponytails. 

I wonder if they're prehensile...

Possibly detachable?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 05 May 2010, 12:17
Especially the monster ponytails. 

I wonder if they're prehensile...

Possibly detachable?
Adult chiyo chan?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: The Duke on 05 May 2010, 13:58
JEPH WHY DO YOU TEASE US SO

ahem

I was *not at all* turned on by human-sized Momo.   :-P
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: nichidani on 05 May 2010, 14:15
Yeah, the pink pigtails kind of remind me of Chibiusa (as Dark Lady, anyway)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 05 May 2010, 14:19
So, what Senshi does that make Momo?     :-D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: haikupoet on 05 May 2010, 16:48
You know, I think fanart of the internal functions of uprated Momo is called for... how would you do the nerve endings though?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 05 May 2010, 18:48
I was *not at all* turned on by human-sized Momo.   :-P
I'm also not turned on by normal-sized Momo-tan, but I don't feel the need to protest too much.

The thing that intrigued me off the bat about Momo-san was what haikupoet brought up. I've always been fascinated by the idea of an artificial human, specificly, the biomechanics of reinventing the sentient humanoid. 1:1 scale wall-art of the internal workings of Momo-san would not go unpurchased.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 05 May 2010, 20:32
even data got it on with some crew members... like Tasha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJmjB1GvJO0) :wink:
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: giant_bug on 05 May 2010, 20:59
Heh.  Do Androids Dream of Electric ... Love?

Oh yeah, and Jeph.  It's I Before E Except After C.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: bicostp on 05 May 2010, 23:23
Oh yeah, and Jeph.  It's I Before E Except After C.

Unless it's weird.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 05 May 2010, 23:31
Yay Hanners !
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2010, 23:35

It's I Before E Except After C.


Or when souding like A, as in neighbor or weigh. 

Unless it's weird.

Yeah, that one too.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: LeeC on 05 May 2010, 23:36
d'aww hanners is so cute when she freaks out.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 05 May 2010, 23:39
Yay, we're back to squeeing over the comic rather angsting over the characters relationship troubles. Makes me feel kinda bad for my part in said angst...  :|

Anyway! Cool comic, it is now confirmed that Hanners has resolved her personal space issues at least a little bit. I'm afraid the shippers may have more ammo now, though. This and the last one must be driving them happy.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2010, 23:41
I disagree with Marten.  This is definitely a step forward on the no-touchy front for Hanners.  

And about the same on the socially awkward/inept scale, not a step back.  She's still not in Marigold territory...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 05 May 2010, 23:42
Sven looks too much like Magical Love Gentleman...and by too much I mean just enough!!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 05 May 2010, 23:46
I disagree with Marten.  This is definitely a step forward on the no-touchy front for Hanners. 

And about the same on the socially awkward/inept scale, not a step back.  She's still not in Marigold territory...

Yes, but not two steps. And don't bring up Marigold's power level, we were doing so well!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: J on 06 May 2010, 00:34
god. damn.

hannelore is fucking adorable.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2010, 00:55
She's let Dora touch her before, hasn't she?

Two travelers from the idle rich class were recruited in a secret operation to take over highlands belonging to an eccentric Arabian tribal leader. They failed. Neither leisured tourist seized the weird sheikh's heights.

I always did think the "i before e except after c" rule had no place in a scientific society.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: J on 06 May 2010, 01:18
i agree on that. how old is that rule anyway? surely it must be obsolete by now considering the importation of new words from other language, not to mention the whole cloth creation of new ones. language is not static and must be left free to adapt as it will in order to remain relevant to an evolving society. the alternative is double plus ungood.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Ventolin on 06 May 2010, 03:58
Today's comic made me laugh.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 May 2010, 04:14
There's flirting, there's FLIRTING and then there's just goofing around.

I'm thinking this may have fallen into to the latter, but maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 06 May 2010, 04:28
I think you're right, but I think these subtle distinctions pass waaay over Hanners' head. Lack of experience and all.

Come to think of it, Marigold made a similar mistake, confusing Angus' goofing around for flirting.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 06 May 2010, 05:23
god. damn.

hannelore is fucking adorable.
I think Hanners is still a couple of years (real time) away from being able to be fucking anybody.

At least this didn't wind up with a black eye for Marten.

Now, if he'd grabbed Hanners, dipped her, and planted a big lip-to-lip smooch on her... THAT would have been flirting.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 06 May 2010, 05:38
Indeed, she does look adorable today. I don't think we've seen her smile like that in a while
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: J on 06 May 2010, 06:20
giggling hannelore is just begging to be some lovely lady's avatar.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2010, 06:28
So what's going on with Momo?

Crossed wirings caused by rough handling    - 12 (17.6%)
Overloaded cuteness circuits    - 3 (4.4%)
She's been hanging around Marigold too long    - 9 (13.2%)
Sven looks too much like Magical Love Gentleman    - 40 (58.8%)
Hannelore somehow uploaded a "crush" virus to her server    - 4 (5.9%)

Total Voters: 68

At least this didn't wind up with a black eye for Marten.

Now, if he'd grabbed Hanners, dipped her, and planted a big lip-to-lip smooch on her... THAT would have been flirting.

Marten didn't get a black eye from the last time he touched her (which, btw, was when we first met Momo). However, if he would have done the dip-and-smooch, he'd be in traction for a month... STRIP-time.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 06 May 2010, 07:10
...

He had to strip for a month ? :?

Dora-exclusive or for everybody ?  :?

 :-D :roll: :evil: :-D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Varian7 on 06 May 2010, 07:36
Utterly adorable Hanners!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: connathan on 06 May 2010, 07:48
I really like Hanners's face in the second panel, she looks less...I'm not sure, cartoony? Except she still is, so that doesn't really make sense, but there's something realistic and nice about it.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 06 May 2010, 07:54
When Hannelore can leave those dishes unwashed overnight, look out world!

even data got it on with some crew members... like Tasha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJmjB1GvJO0) :wink:
Yes, I always felt bad for Data about that—of all the people to get involved with, it would have to be that tight-ass.

i agree on that. how old is that rule anyway? surely it must be obsolete by now considering the importation of new words from other language, not to mention the whole cloth creation of new ones. language is not static and must be left free to adapt as it will in order to remain relevant to an evolving society. the alternative is double plus ungood.
Beikervulwotuishvur.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kross on 06 May 2010, 07:54
Who's that dude, the one in the hoody? I don't recognize him at all! :P
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: SuperRad on 06 May 2010, 08:25
Just noticed the new stippling on the hair. I like!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 11:53
Beikervulwotuishvur.

Took three read-throughs to sound that one out... I thought it was German for a minute! 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Steve the Pocket on 06 May 2010, 11:59
Just noticed the new stippling on the hair. I like!
That's not stippling; it's auto-dithering. But yes, he has made the highlights more realistic. In fact, almost every surface in this strip is dithered. Methinks he's reached the point where he needs to start using 24-bit PNGs instead of the indexed kind, or switch to JPEG or something.

Hanners' hair looks almost like it did at the beginning, back when her OCD was more like real OCD and less like Adrian Monk Syndrome. Does this mean she's finally coming full circle?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 12:09
Neither leisured tourist seized the weird sheikh's heights.

I always did think the "i before e except after c" rule had no place in a scientific society.

I think that sentence has all the exceptions, no?  

That's why I rprefer science.  Rules/laws have no exceptions.  You can't get a waiver for gravity, the prime factorization of a number doesn't change depending on case or tense, and chemical reactions don't slow down on the last Tuesday of every month.  If something doesn't follow an established pattern, it's not an exception, it's a counter-example, and you change the rule...

But there are some easy mnemonics.  One of my favorites comes from a chance encounter with an English prof on a stairwell during finals when I was a grad student.  He was griping about the final essays he was grading.  

"Did you know that 'its' is always spelled with an apostrophe now?"  

"It is?"  

And he broke up laughing.  It was unintended, but I've never forgotten when not to use an apostrophe in 'its'!  
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Heliphyneau on 06 May 2010, 12:11
Well, at least it wasn't one step forward, two steps back -- progress is progress, so yay Hanners!  Very cute strip.  I also really liked the background in the last three panels.

That may have been a very mild form of flirting, but of the harmless mostly-goofing-around kind.  It will take awhile for Hanners to get all the nuances.  And considering the way Dora reacted initially to the Cosette situation, maybe Hanners should worry . . .  I can see it now: Dora's all "Hannelore flirted with Marten, and she used to stalk him, must . . . kill . . . but she's so cute and I want to protect her, gah . . ."  Then Dora passes out from brainmelt and wakes up to find Pintsize groping her.  >_>  What?  It could happen . . . maybe . . . (OK, probably not.)

And a dip-and-smooch is not flirting, it's smooching, duh.  Flirting is one part verbal, one part eye contact/body language, and one part trivial body contact (aka shoulder, arm, hand, knee, possibly ear).  It's also 100% dependent on context.

Now perhaps Hanners can give Momo some tips on how to be immune to Sven's Care Bear Stare or whatever.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 12:19
Hanners' hair looks almost like it did at the beginning, back when her OCD was more like real OCD and less like Adrian Monk Syndrome. Does this mean she's finally coming full circle?

That actually came up during the u-stream last night.  She is looking more like that first meeting in the bar's restroom.  No problems with touching back then - straddling Marten and all...

But she was on meds that were giving her problems at the time, if I remember correctly.  Now, she's getting better.  It may still be slightly chemically enhanced (I imagine she's still on something), but it's at her own agonizingly slow pace.  

And Marten's response should really be, "Naw, we were just goofin' around", with something about how there's no need to worry about it.  Then maybe an offer to go down to the coffee shop and show Hanner's that Dora's OK about it.  

'Cause otherwise, Hanners will still worry...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 12:28
Neither leisured tourist seized the weird sheikh's heights.

I always did think the "i before e except after c" rule had no place in a scientific society.

I think that sentence has all the exceptions, no?  

Being.

Can you tell I'm avoiding grading final exams?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2010, 12:59
She's let Dora touch her before, hasn't she?

But Dora's not...a...a...a BOY!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 06 May 2010, 13:01
Hanners' hair looks almost like it did at the beginning, back when her OCD was more like real OCD and less like Adrian Monk Syndrome. Does this mean she's finally coming full circle?
That actually came up during the u-stream last night.  She is looking more like that first meeting in the bar's restroom.  No problems with touching back then - straddling Marten and all...
Hmm. You already know about my theory concerning Dora's hair length. Do we need one for Hannelore, too?

But she was on meds that were giving her problems at the time, if I remember correctly.  Now, she's getting better.  It may still be slightly chemically enhanced (I imagine she's still on something), but it's at her own agonizingly slow pace.  
That's so much less entertaining than thinking a few passes with scissors might change everything. And it has the added downer of probably being correct.

As for Hanners being "Monk-like," I'd guess that in addition to her usual battery of anxieties, she'd added dealing with a completely new environment, and, worse, one that was far less stable then the space-station. That could explain her exaggerated OCD manifestations,  the heavy meds she was on when Hanners first talked to Marten—an attempt to deal with the repercussions of the change as she ventured outside her apartment—and her gradual improvement as she became more accustomed to her surroundings. I'd suspect Hannelore's made that adjustment (as well as getting the best-effect dosages of her meds nailed down) and is now making actual progress on her OCD itself.

Of course, it may also have to do with the inescapable fact that she's not real. But I digress.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2010, 15:23
Backing you up, there is evidence from the strip that Hannelore is sensitive to changes in her environment. When she woke up at Sven's, her first reaction was "Gah! Strange place! Strange place!"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Socky on 06 May 2010, 15:51
Now, if he'd grabbed Hanners, dipped her, and planted a big lip-to-lip smooch on her... THAT would have been flirting.

Man, when you flirt, you flirt HARD.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Eddurd on 06 May 2010, 16:25
Neither leisured tourist seized the weird sheikh's heights.

I always did think the "i before e except after c" rule had no place in a scientific society.

I think that sentence has all the exceptions, no?  

Being.
Can you tell I'm avoiding grading final exams?
Also "foreign", "neighbor", and "weight".

Weigh cool.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ndperfesser on 06 May 2010, 16:54
Weigh cool.

OK

Three pounds, four ounces
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 17:45
Also "foreign", "neighbor", and "weight".

Weigh cool.

Other than foreign, they DO follow the "sounding like A" part of the rule.  In fact, neighbor and weigh are in the little rhyme...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2010, 18:23
I before E, except after C, or except as an "a", as in neighbor and weigh.

And English is a funny language to begin with. Someone out there once posted a quote about German barmaids and English, but I'm not remembering it enough to throw it up here.

EDIT: Found it - "English is the result of Norman soldiers attempting to pick up Anglo-Saxon barmaids, and is no more legitimate than any of the other results." (H. Beam Piper, science fiction author)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2010, 18:31
Can't believe nobody's brought this up yet, but here goes...

"Teacher: I before E except after C and when sounding like A as in neighbour and weigh and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May you'll always be wrong no matter what you say!

Student: Whoa!  That's a, that's a harsh rule!"

-Brian Regan on school
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 06 May 2010, 18:33
Well, at least she didn't do her usual freakout - she just went the other way.

Progress I suppose.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 06 May 2010, 20:07
everyone say it with me now:


D'aaaaaawwwwwwww!!!!!1!1!!!!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 20:08
D'aaaaaawwwwwwww!!!!!1!1!!!!

On the other hand, Faye seems to feel left out...

This one's full of epic quotes..

"Seppuku?"

"Poking three-way!"

And the moniker "pokeslut"!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: drudge on 06 May 2010, 20:12
Careful, kids... Poking is the leading cause of teen pregnancy.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 06 May 2010, 20:31
Years without physical contact has left Hannelore completely defenseless against her new archenemy, the ticklemonster. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Akima on 06 May 2010, 20:39
"Seppuku?"
Is it even possible to commit seppuku with a katana?
Unless Hanners was thinking of using a shorter blade herself, with Marigold acting as her kaishakunin.

Quote
And the moniker "pokeslut"!
Pokesluts - Gotta catch them all!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 06 May 2010, 20:51
The Roomba'd probably do a better job. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Chaon on 06 May 2010, 20:52
"Seppuku?"
Is it even possible to commit seppuku with a katana?
Unless Hanners was thinking of using a shorter blade herself, with Marigold acting as her kaishakunin.

Quote
And the moniker "pokeslut"!
Pokesluts - Gotta catch them all!

1) of course it is, you just have to hold the katana by the blade rather than the hilt
2) nice to see that someone else read it like pokemon upon first seeing it
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 06 May 2010, 22:07
Naturally, reading today's comic, I keep thinking of Lonesome Dove, wherein Gus keeps asking the whore camp follower (literally) for a poke, and he doesn't mean ticklin'. Well, ticklin's not all he means—sometimes ticklin' can't be helped during a poke, at least if it's a thorough one. In any case, this makes 'pokeslut' something like a one-word tautology. (I'm confident someone will supply the correct term, which eludes me at present).

Weigh cool.
OK
Three pounds, four ounces
I think you are far exaggerating the substantiality of cool. Even James Dean's cool couldn't have topped six ounces.

And the moniker "pokeslut"!
Pokesluts - Gotta catch them all!
Gotta love what my interpretation does to this.  :evil:


Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2010, 22:17
sepPOKEku!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2010, 22:29
[start-at-the-scalp-end-at-the-chin-facepalm]
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: snubnose on 06 May 2010, 23:34
Woho ! Good Comic ! Me happy ! :-D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: themacnut on 07 May 2010, 01:10
Nice that Hannelore actually seems to be enjoying herself.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: AngryCallCenterAgent on 07 May 2010, 03:51
Pokeslut... Why does that sound familiar... *checks Pintsize/Marigold's hentai collection* Ah, now I remember...
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Manix on 07 May 2010, 03:53
Naturally, reading today's comic, I keep thinking of Lonesome Dove, wherein Gus keeps asking the whore camp follower (literally) for a poke, and he doesn't mean ticklin'. Well, ticklin's not all he means—sometimes ticklin' can't be helped during a poke, at least if it's a thorough one. In any case, this makes 'pokeslut' something like a one-word tautology. (I'm confident someone will supply the correct term, which eludes me at present).

Weigh cool.
OK
Three pounds, four ounces
I think you are far exaggerating the substantiality of cool. Even James Dean's cool couldn't have topped six ounces.

And the moniker "pokeslut"!
Pokesluts - Gotta catch them all!
Gotta love what my interpretation does to this.  :evil:




There already is something like that sadly. Go look up "Pokegirls" on google someday.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Border Reiver on 07 May 2010, 04:40
No, I will not ruin what has been a pleasantly enjoyable last two strips filled with light-hearted fun with porn!

Maybe later
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 07 May 2010, 05:13
How does Hanners' face work again? Panel 2, turbocute. Panel 4, turbocute. Panel 3... maniacal spree killer?

I know a lot of people (myself included) like to hypothesize about any prospects Hanners might have for a meaningful sexual relation, a solid emotional connection with a committed life partner with fulfilling physical intimacy... and then she gets poked in a three-way.

Oh, and a lot of people, myself included, you can't tickle like that... we'd pee ourselves on the spot.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 07 May 2010, 05:17
Panel 4, the rare and genuine "squee" face! 

When she gets out of this and realizes that, while being tickled she actually had a few moments of worry-free glee, I think we may have a junky on our hands...

Standing on a streetcorner with a cardboard sign, "will count the uncountable for tickles"
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 07 May 2010, 05:34
everyone say it with me now:
D'aaaaaawwwwwwww!!!!!1!1!!!!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Near Lurker on 07 May 2010, 06:28
The problem with seppuku is that while Marigold almost certainly owns a katana, she may or may not own shampoo.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mr_Rose on 07 May 2010, 06:38
I suspect Hannelore would probably get right up to the point where she's about to take the sword, notice some sort of odd stain, ask "when was the last time you cleaned this blade?" and then refuse to go through with it on hygiene grounds.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 07 May 2010, 08:17
There already is something like that sadly. Go look up "Pokegirls" on google someday.
I…did not know the true power of Rule 34.
When she gets out of this and realizes that, while being tickled she actually had a few moments of worry-free glee, I think we may have a junky on our hands...Standing on a streetcorner with a cardboard sign, "will count the uncountable for tickles"
Had to take Hannelore's moment of joy and turn her into a tickle-trollop for it, didn't you?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 May 2010, 09:33
Dora shows again that she has the wisdom to do exactly the right thing. At least she's able to. In this case she had to compensate for having threatened Hannelore about Marten in number 635.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kross on 07 May 2010, 11:03
OMFG Hanners is so adorable I think I have cancer now. CUTE CANCER.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: sudamerican on 07 May 2010, 11:40
OMFG Hanners is so adorable I think I have cancer now. CUTE CANCER.
can i poke it?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 May 2010, 12:21
I can't believe no one already formulated the most important interrogation here: are Marigold and/or Sven still in CoD?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: BigSol81 on 07 May 2010, 12:27
I'm really hoping this is true character development on Hanners' part and not some temporary plot device that's going to go away and turn her back into her totally neurotic self.

Hanners' neurotic behavior has been the source of some good comedy, but long-term character development is always good. One thing I've always been able to appreciate about QC (and one of the reasons it continues to be my favorite web comic) is that Jeph does a good job of making his characters feel real. They may be very self-aware, but they develop and improve over time. Hanalore could only be super-neurotic for so long before it got stale, so it's cool that Jeph's taking things in a slightly different direction with her before we reach that point.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: bicostp on 07 May 2010, 12:35
are Marigold and/or Sven still in CoD?

My guess would be no. Marigold told Momo it was time to leave in Thursday's comic, and she wasn't in her state of socially inept shock, which suggests he already left.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 May 2010, 13:16
Oh, yeah, that. Yeah.  :oops:
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 07 May 2010, 14:23
Point - But Sven may still be there!


Pity Mari-Bear left, she might have enjoyed seeing this though.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 07 May 2010, 14:54
I'm positive this is a long term change for Hannelore, Jeph practically telegraphed it with the 'taking care of Marigold' storyline.  And while I still don't think it's a very realistic representation of how OCD operates, I'm glad she's beginning to 'get over it'

Edit: Heyyyyyyy... where'd my avatar go?  O_o  
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Wiregeek on 07 May 2010, 15:52
No, I will not ruin what has been a pleasantly enjoyable last two strips filled with light-hearted fun with porn!

Maybe later

Whaddya mean, 'ruin', pokemon porn is wonderful!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 May 2010, 16:55
And while I still don't think it's a very realistic representation of how OCD operates, I'm glad she's beginning to 'get over it'
Over some of it, at least. There's more to Hannelore's issues than just OCD. Plus, the fact that she's followed by a therapist has to count for something.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Varian7 on 07 May 2010, 17:51
Hanners has tickling down, so maybe hugging will be next (eventually).
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: bicostp on 07 May 2010, 18:43
And while I still don't think it's a very realistic representation of how OCD operates, I'm glad she's beginning to 'get over it'

Haphephobia is not OCD. She might not be afraid of physical contact anymore, but she might still have to arrange her silverware in a specific pattern or compulsively count things.

Quote
Edit: Heyyyyyyy... where'd my avatar go?  O_o 
Right where it's always been?
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: J on 08 May 2010, 00:17
Oh, and a lot of people, myself included, you can't tickle like that... we'd pee ourselves on the spot.

now that you've revealed your weakness, you'd best pray you never meet anyone here in real life.

mua ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: MegaLexi on 08 May 2010, 01:59
OMFG Hanners is so adorable I think I have cancer now. CUTE CANCER.

That's not cancer you feel, that's ¡DIABETES! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JW133F0AK4)

I am a horrible person.

Anyhow, for content. I'm really liking that Hanners is letting her hair grow out again, I wanna see how it looks with Jeph's improved style.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 08 May 2010, 09:54
Edit: Heyyyyyyy... where'd my avatar go?  O_o  
Right where it's always been?

Hmm... my computer was glitchy with a few websites yesterday, it must have kept animated gifs from running too.  Don't know why it's suddenly fixed, but I'll chalk it up to dumb luck and move on...


Haphephobia is not OCD. She might not be afraid of physical contact anymore, but she might still have to arrange her silverware in a specific pattern or compulsively count things.

It wasn't just physical contact, she was excessively afraid of anything 'dirty'.  That type of fear usually doesn't just go away, and it was unrealistic that she'd be having these problems for however-many years the comic's been going and then is suddenly able to push past them in order to help her friend.  That said, it's a comic, so I'm not incredibly worried that it stays realistic, I just wanted to voice the concern. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 08 May 2010, 14:17
You're right, they don't go away (and haven't).  But she's been pushing her boundaries, and (right now) having them pushed by others.  She was there to "do what needed to be done" with Marigold, and I'm sure she washed thoroughly afterward.  She's proud of herself for coping, and she's having a "good day". 

It's not making all the difference in the world, and she's not going to change overnight (come on, does anything in this comic happen that fast?), but she's learning to cope a little better. 

Sometimes that's the best you can expect! 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Mad Cat on 08 May 2010, 14:21
now that you've revealed your weakness, you'd best pray you never meet anyone here in real life.

mua ha ha ha ha ha ha
Eep!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ndperfesser on 08 May 2010, 23:21
Weigh cool.
OK
Three pounds, four ounces
I think you are far exaggerating the substantiality of cool. Even James Dean's cool couldn't have topped six ounces.
Ah, but you are measuring California cool, a thin and insubstantial source. Up here in the northern plains, we harvest the cold during 40 below winter days and recycle it as cool throughout the year. Fonzie, a good Milwaukee boy, ran through more than 10 pounds a year all by himself.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: akronnick on 08 May 2010, 23:51
Ehhhhhhhhyyy!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: jwhouk on 09 May 2010, 11:48
No, no, NO. It's "Aayyyyyyyy."

Geez. You outsiders can't speak it without an accent.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: raoullefere on 09 May 2010, 19:49
No, no, NO. It's "Aayyyyyyyy."
Correctomundo!

(Still can't believe I actually watched that drivel. I must've been insa—wait, I was a child. Of course, I was insane. All children are.)
Ah, but you are measuring California cool, a thin and insubstantial source. Up here in the northern plains, we harvest the cold during 40 below winter days and recycle it as cool throughout the year. Fonzie, a good Milwaukee boy, ran through more than 10 pounds a year all by himself.
I've listened to and read far too much of Garrison Keillor, not to mention listened to too many hours of Whad'ya Know?, to begin to swallow this.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Lyrical on 09 May 2010, 21:53
Other than foreign, they DO follow the "sounding like A" part of the rule.  In fact, neighbor and weigh are in the little rhyme...
Here are a few other exceptions to the rule: either, eider, ageing, protein, and absenteeism.  I'm sure there are a lot more!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Lyrical on 09 May 2010, 22:06
What does it mean that Winslow is apparently asexual?
I don't remember which comic strip it was in, but Winslow yelled at the Roomba for trying to move in on "his" girl (Hanners), and he took over the robot boyfriend body that her dad sent her when she decided to experiment.  He's just not as rude about it as Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 May 2010, 01:20
Come to think of it, there was that one line when he was in the boyfriendbot body about wanting to grab things.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Carl-E on 10 May 2010, 09:22
Other than foreign, they DO follow the "sounding like A" part of the rule.  In fact, neighbor and weigh are in the little rhyme...
Here are a few other exceptions to the rule: either, eider, ageing, protein, and absenteeism.  I'm sure there are a lot more!

Absenteeism and ageing don't count, they're root words ending in E that have a suffix beginning with I added on. 

But the others, yeah - interesting...

So now's when we throw our hands up in the air and agree that English is a fucked up language, right? 

Right? 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Dliessmgg on 10 May 2010, 13:07
Only the details are fucked up. There's worse, like German or French.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Binary on 10 May 2010, 14:20
Worse still, Russian. Three genders, masculine, feminine and neuter (what possible logic is there to 'passport', 'document' and 'bread' being masculine, 'newspaper' and 'Russia' being feminine, and 'building', 'radio' and 'letter' being  neuter?)

Oh, but it gets better. Six, count 'em, six 'cases' for nouns - nominative, accusative, genitive, dative, prepositional and instrumental. The case of a noun indicates the role that it plays in a sentence. In English this is done using word order, in Russian by altering the ending of the noun. So you don't just learn a noun, you have to learn all the possible additional endings it can take (and of course these also depend on the gender or whether it's plural). There are four types of regular declension, but also a whole set of irregular exceptions.

God, I hated Russian. Barely scraped a pass at school, never used it again.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Penquin47 on 10 May 2010, 15:04
German has the same three genders.  While I only got as far as four cases of nouns, that doesn't mean the other two don't exist in German.

Latin has three genders and six cases of nouns.

Greek has three genders.  Dunno about cases, haven't got that far in Rosetta Stone yet.

Why I study languages: because it's FUN!  (This is not sarcasm.  I studied German, French, and Spanish in school, and am studying Greek and Latin on my own and thinking about either picking Spanish back up because it's useful or starting Irish this summer.)
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Binary on 10 May 2010, 16:51
Irish is easy. Memorise the simple phrase below and you'll be able to cope in a surprising number of situations.

WHALE OIL BEEF HOOKED
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Lyrical on 10 May 2010, 21:00
Absenteeism and ageing don't count, they're root words ending in E that have a suffix beginning with I added on.  But the others, yeah - interesting...  So now's when we throw our hands up in the air and agree that English is a fucked up language, right?
Hey, the "I before E" quote doesn't say anything about root words, but there are plenty more exceptions within the root word as well.  Anyway, English is consistently inconsistent.  From what I understand, the tonal languages, such as Japanese and Chinese, tend to be the most difficult to learn to speak correctly.  I know a smattering of different languages, but I'm not really fluent in any but English.  I admire the people who manage to learn another language as an adult!

IsItCold, I remember something about that, too, but not the exact wording.  He's not as in-your-face as Pintsize about it for sure, but he did seem sexual/romantic in that story arc. 
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: daryljfontaine on 10 May 2010, 21:14
EDIT: NVM apparently cannot read thread titles.

D
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Dliessmgg on 11 May 2010, 00:50
German has the same three genders.  While I only got as far as four cases of nouns, that doesn't mean the other two don't exist in German.

German has four cases, but nobody knows how to use them correctly or when you can use two with slightly different sentence structure or when there's a special old word that needs an exception. It got worse with the reform around 2000 where nobody knew what was correct afterwards and now you can use what was correct before and after, but the new stuff is advised. That leads to some mixing both. Bleh.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 11 May 2010, 00:58
Looks like she's gonna spill that coffee!!
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ndperfesser on 11 May 2010, 20:45
Dental records. Fillings are not genetically predestined. Also, this is last week's thread.
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Tuitsuro on 11 May 2010, 20:46
WHALE OIL BEEF HOOKED

Ah, that took me a minute. :lol:
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Kugai on 11 May 2010, 23:06
WHALE OIL BEEF HOOKED

Ah, that took me a minute. :lol:

Me too.  :laugh:

And as the Upper Class English say,  AIR HAIR LAIR
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 12 May 2010, 01:14
yes, yes, yes <33333333333
Title: Re: WCT May 3-7, 2010
Post by: Akima on 12 May 2010, 03:47
From what I understand, the tonal languages, such as Japanese and Chinese, tend to be the most difficult to learn to speak correctly.
Technically Japanese is not a tonal language, unlike Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai etc.

Obviously I'm not the best person to ask about the difficulty of learning Chinese (usually Standard Mandarin) as a second language. It is classed as one of the most difficult for English-speakers to learn, but I'm not sure that it is the tones that give most trouble. The CSL people I've talked to found the tones simply came with practice, and Mandarin grammar is in many ways far simpler than English. It is the writing system that seemed to be the big hurdle... as it is to Chinese people too! I sometimes wonder if the fearsome reputation of Chinese is partly an artifact of a general foreign-language teaching tradition that over-emphasises written language because it is easy to test.