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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Is it cold in here? on 09 May 2010, 21:56
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It's after midnight.
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It's after midnight.
Says the East Coaster. 8-) ..Who doesn't get any events, including ones that are SIXTY MILES AWAY (read: any televised Hollywood thingie) three hours later. :x
I'm wiped out from the convention, I hope it is okay if I do a filler comic tonight! Because that is what I am doing.
Jeph, you have got to stop worrying yourself over this. You could toss us a syphilitic rat (do rats get syphilis?) at 5 am Hawaii time and we'd devour it like ambrosia.
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They're gathering Yelling Bird, they're gathering.
:-D
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I am now imagining Randy being voiced by Steve Irwin. And now you are too. :evil:
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Yelling Bird better be careful, Shelby could eat him in one bite!
Also, now that Shelby has appeared in the comic, I think it only proper that she should have her own Twitter feed as well.
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I am now imagining Randy being voiced by Steve Irwin. And now you are too. :evil:
In my mind's ear he sounds more like Rocko.
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i knew a few pyrenees once. great dogs, very friendly, fucking massive, and shed like nothing you can imagine. if jeph's place is not carpeted, it will be come june.
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Yelling Bird better be careful, Shelby could eat him in one bite!
Also, now that Shelby has appeared in the comic, I think it only proper that she should have her own Twitter feed as well.
A falcon (or was it a hawk? it almost looked like a red-tailed hawk) tried that once. And Yelling Bird busted straight out of his gut.
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The Hawk in question made the mistake of swallowing YB whole. Shelby has enough power in her massive jaws to turn YB into bird paste post-haste.
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Says the East Coaster. 8-) ..Who doesn't get any events, including ones that are SIXTY MILES AWAY (read: any televised Hollywood thingie) three hours later. :x
You think you've got problems? Try being ten hours ahead of UTC, with reversed seasons so the daylight savings changes go in the opposite direction, and stuffed into the largely Spanish-Portuguese-speaking DVD region 4!
You could toss us a syphilitic rat (do rats get syphilis?) at 5 am Hawaii time and we'd devour it like ambrosia.
If rats don't get syphilis naturally, I'm sure some guy in a white coat has given it to them by now, FOR SCIENCE!
And personally I would not eat a syphilitic rat. I'm a vegetarian.
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Says the East Coaster. 8-) ..Who doesn't get any events, including ones that are SIXTY MILES AWAY (read: any televised Hollywood thingie) three hours later. :x
You think you've got problems? Try being ten hours ahead of UTC, with reversed seasons so the daylight savings changes go in the opposite direction, and stuffed into the largely Spanish-Portuguese-speaking DVD region 4!
You could toss us a syphilitic rat (do rats get syphilis?) at 5 am Hawaii time and we'd devour it like ambrosia.
If rats don't get syphilis naturally, I'm sure some guy in a white coat has given it to them by now, FOR SCIENCE!
And personally I would not eat a syphilitic rat. I'm a vegetarian.
True. Australia; America but worse, at least when it comes to media access. And okay, what about E. Coli infected tomatoes spinach lettuce?
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I am now imagining Randy being voiced by Steve Irwin. And now you are too. :evil:
In my mind's ear he sounds more like Rocko.
Comic day is a very dangerous day...
(http://www.lionking.org/~mshenga/images/rocko.gif)
isnt randy suppose to be female?
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Who wants to bet Yelling Bird listens to Sloan
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Nah, YB goes back to his nest, locks the door, closes the curtains, and slips his Michael Bolton/Anne Murray CD into the player...
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Having just experienced a weekend visiting elderly relatives, for once I completely get where Yelling Bird is coming from. Except I would add one thing:
AHHHHH! The word is pronounced Wal-MART! M A R T. There IS NO FUCKING K at the end! The store is NOT named for wall urination*. Wal damn marT!
Ahh, catharsis.
Thanks, Jeph! Best filler ever! (As in I seriously needed it).
*however appropriate that might seem at times.
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Some dogs are built for cuddling. :P
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I am now imagining Randy being voiced by Steve Irwin. And now you are too. :evil:
In my mind's ear he sounds more like Rocko.
Comic day is a very dangerous day...
(http://www.lionking.org/~mshenga/images/rocko.gif)
isnt randy suppose to be female?
Given that Randy said "I had a baby!" I think you're right...I know it takes both men and women to have a baby, but Randy saying that suggests (she) gave birth to it.
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So she's a randicoot?
[rimshot]
AHHHHH! The word is pronounced Wal-MART! M A R T. There IS NO FUCKING K at the end! The store is NOT named for wall urination*. Wal damn marT!
Rhymes with Hallmark. Would it be so hard to send a card once in a while?
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Randy's dead
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Shebly should have his own webtoon series.
"Woof!"
"What's that, Jeph fell down a well?"
"Woof!"
"And forgot his Cintiq in the hotel?"
"Woof! Woof!"
"And you have to poop, right now? What do you mean, right now ... HOLY MOTHER OF ...!"
:-D
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For some reason Randy really annoys me. I like yelling bird tho.
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You could toss us a syphilitic rat (do rats get syphilis?) at 5 am Hawaii time and we'd devour it like ambrosia.
Hey, Randy ain't no rat, she's a bandicoot! And I have it on good authority that she tested clean at her last physical.
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Oh dear lord, I read that as "tasted clean...".
Gotta get those new specs...
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Sheblblblblbly!
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I am now imagining Randy being voiced by Steve Irwin. And now you are too. :evil:
In my mind's ear he sounds more like Rocko.
I was leaning more towards Joe Pesci's charecter in Lethal Weapon.
Or maybe Peewee Herman.
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I'm having trouble imagining Hanners being evil, which is odd considering how morbid and creepy the nice Hanners we know can be (not to mention her genetic background).
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So Hanners' clone is Cammy from Street Fighter? The pigtails are missing, but the scar's in the right place.
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So Hanners' clone is Cammy from Street Fighter? The pigtails are missing, but the scar's in the right place.
or she's a female soap mctavish? what with the aussie accent and all
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EvilClone!Hanners? HAWT. I am strangely aroused.
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P.S.: Blah blah fictional comic character yes I understand, let a body make a goddamn joke.
(Reposted from other thread because numbers are hard.)
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"Hanners! Crap, where's the reset button? How could she BSOD, she runs an Apple OS?"
The continued monologue of Marten.
AND THEN THEY ALL FUCKED!
Gah! Yelling Bird, go away already!
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Hmm, you'd think Hanners would notice the coffee she's apparently pouring on her pants. The heat from that alone should cause a hard reboot. :wink:
If she did have a clone, though, I'd expect CloneHanners to have more problems rather than fewer. Not that the AltHanners she's stressing about doesn't have problems . . . Always fun to invent new things to worry about for yourself.
*nods head*
*hands Hanners the worry hat*
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Both more problems, and fewer problems.
The made-up story that would fit a useful subset of facts is that Hannerdad and Hannermom settled the custody dispute by cloning Hanners (take that, Solomon!). The one we know went to live with her dad on the space station, where the serotonin-blocking drugs to prevent bone loss in microgravity had the side effect of causing mental health problems.
The other clone, though neurochemically normal, was raised by Beatrice Chatham.
None of this really jibes with the story line in which Hannermom visited.
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Hannelore has been watching too much SyFy.
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Hanners Clone Sister is Chloe from Noir
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it has been a long damn time since i laughed this hard at a comic.
fuck, it has been a long damn time since i laughed this hard at anything.
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Was there ever a "center of attention of the week" ? :?
it has been a long damn time since i laughed this hard at a comic.
fuck, it has been a long damn time since i laughed this hard at anything.
For the record, I daily laugh extremely hard at the fact that some extreme moron named Westerwelle is my states foreign minister.
You could replace him with a seven year old boy and aside from looks, nothing would have changed.
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The Hanners clone doesn't have an Australian accent. It sounds Irish, maybe Scottish, but definately not Aussie.
We don't say dearie, yer, ain't, 'till, 'fore or yank.
I would be kind of nice to hear Jeph do an Aussie accent irl, it would most likely be quite amusingly bad :)
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"You're never alone when you have a clone."* I suppose this is what happens when (one of) you wishes to be so.
If she did have a clone, though, I'd expect CloneHanners to have more problems rather than fewer. Note that the AltHanners she's stressing about doesn't have problems . . . Always fun to invent new things to worry about for yourself.
Who says scarface there is the clone? That might be the wishful thinking.
Actually, I could see Hannermom having a vast storehouse of Hannelores, the same as Dr. "Rusty" Venture does of Hank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Venture#History_and_activities_on_the_show) and Dean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Venture).
*Douglas Adams, can't recall from what
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So Hanners' clone is Cammy from Street Fighter? The pigtails are missing, but the scar's in the right place.
or she's a female soap mctavish? what with the aussie accent and all
Well "Soap" McTavish is meant to be Scottish. Clue is in the name, really.
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The Hanners clone doesn't have an Australian accent. It sounds Irish, maybe Scottish, but definately not Aussie.
We don't say dearie, yer, ain't, 'till, 'fore or yank.
Americans do have the oddest ideas of what Australians sound like as a result of being force-fed Crocodile Dundee, Steve Irwin etc. I've read lots of comments to the effect that Jessie Spencer "doesn't have an Australian accent" or "is trying to put on a British accent" in his role as Dr. Chase in House M.D., when he has a perfectly normal "educated" Melbourne accent.
Having said that "dearie" isn't common here in ladies under the age of eighty; "yer" is OK for "you're", but should have been "ya" for "your"; "ain't" is used in Australia, but most commonly by older males. Aussies don't drop the first syllable from "before", but rather drop the "r" sound at the end (our accents are "non-rhotic" generally*). I'd give "yank" for "pull", and "'till" for "until" a pass though; I hear them fairly often, especially the latter. Given Hanner-scar's "rough as guts" attitude however, I'd recommend "reef out" instead of yank for the authentic psycho-Aussie flavour: "Don't worry, I'll wait till yer dead before I reef out ya teeth!"
Excellent comic, by the way, very funny. The can of petrol is a lovely touch. By the way, what is Hanner-scar's cap-badge? Does Hanner-mum have a whole secret army like a Bond villain, complete with black helicopters and a secret base under a volcano?
* Yes, my Mum made me take elocution lessons to improve my English pronunciation.
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OK, so I wasn't the only one who wanted to know what cap badge Hanner-scar had.
She also might have considered the need for a wee bit o'plastic surgery - that scar looks interesting and the chunk out of the ear might need a little touching up to convince the gang - course when she starts going through the cast like a sailor just off a six month cruise thye might get suspicious as well.
thanks for the morning funny.
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Oh my gawd! I am so turned on right now and I don't know why.
Maybe it's where EvilHanners's left boot appears to be. Maybe it's the idea of an actual EvilHanners-GoodHanners swap and see how EH tried to integrate into GH's life with all the other characters.
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Maybe Hanners is deliberately pouring the coffee down her pants to mask the fact that that involuntary fantasy made her just wet herself in another way.
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Evil Hanners looks tough enough to be an "Army of One"!
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OK, so I wasn't the only one who wanted to know what cap badge Hanner-scar had.
It reads EC with a little skull under it
Well "Soap" McTavish is meant to be Scottish. Clue is in the name, really.
Really? Shows how good i am with accents i suppose, heh.
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Hanners is the clone of the one they cared about; that's why they let her grow up isolated on a space station. Do you think they didn't know what they were doing to her?
Unfortunately, their real daughter went through something of a rebellious phase, which ended in... an Empedoclean fashion.
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If she did have a clone, though, I'd expect CloneHanners to have more problems rather than fewer. Note that the AltHanners she's stressing about doesn't have problems . . . Always fun to invent new things to worry about for yourself.
Who says scarface there is the clone? That might be the wishful thinking.
Actually, I could see Hannermom having a vast storehouse of Hannelores, the same as Dr. "Rusty" Venture does of Hank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Venture#History_and_activities_on_the_show) and Dean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Venture).
Well, it's Hanners' stress-daydream, so basically she said scarface was the clone. As far as QC-reality goes, there's no saying if there is another. I think I recall Hanners saying that she was grown in a test tube (or am I hallucinating?), so Hannelore herself could be a clone, or a gene-splicing experiment, or HannerDad's attempt at an idealized superhuman gone slightly awry. And the idea of an entire bunker full of Venture-style undercooked HannerClones somewhere sounds like a creepy fanboy fantasy to me ("How much will it cost to have one for my very own?"), soooooo . . . thanks for that image.
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will hanners pilot the eva 00 or is this version of her too old?
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So Hanners' clone is Cammy from Street Fighter? The pigtails are missing, but the scar's in the right place.
Come to think of it, Tai might make a good (if short) Elena, and I could possibly see a longer-haired Dora pulling off a Juri. As well as Penelope pulling off Karin. (what have I done oh lord)
Evil Hannelore has good taste in guns, it would appear. (It would also appear that Jeph may have been playing SC: Conviction, judging by gun/mag shape.)
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I don't remember anything about Hannelore being a test-tube baby, can any of the Masters of the Archives confirm or deny it?
Who would win a fight on Volcano Island, Hannermom or Steve?
Interesting point about her being an experiment: is her father a Scrabble fanatic who was trying to breed the ultimate player? Or was it an attempt at general IQ? She did win a poll on who was the most intelligent character.
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Apparently not a test tube baby:
Hanners Mother Pregnancy (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=922)
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Looking at the status of the poll, it seems to me that I'm not the only one here whos favorite character is Hanners.
It was Faye in the past but she turned out to be too slutty. I'm not that conservative that I would judge her, but I'm conservative enough that I'm definitely turned off by such a behavior.
Dammit I again write about fictional characters as if they would be real.
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so faye is a slut just because she made a move on sven and had a sexual relationship with him for awhile and hasn't to my knowledge been getting any elsewhere since?
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Nope.
I specified no reason for my statement.
So you just made one up on your own. Which is wrong, by the way.
And besides, just because I'm not attracted to, say, black women, that doesnt mean I'm a racist. I'm just not attracted to black women. Its my perfect right to have preferences when it comes to partnership choices, just like everyone else.
Likewise I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Also, I never called her slut. I said "too slutty". Mostly because I'm too tired to think about a better word for it.
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There's a convoluted setup for a Steve+assassinHannelore ship here, somewhere....
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It was Faye in the past but she turned out to be too slutty. I'm not that conservative that I would judge her, but I'm conservative enough that I'm definitely turned off by such a behavior.
How is it possible to apply the fairly negative term "slutty" to anyone without judging them?
I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Certainly. But I don't see how you can do it without judging.
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Who would win a fight on Volcano Island, Hannermom or Steve?
Beatrice (Hannermom, to you), naturally. Old age and treachery, plus she probably has those rules Border Reiver gets his sig from memorized backwards and forwards.
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Does "Beatrice" really sound evil enough to be the right name to use? She prefers "Ms. Chatham" anyway, cf. strip 915.
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You could call her Beatrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_Kiddo), maybe?
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*cue bad-ass theme music*
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Apparently not a test tube baby:
Hanners Mother Pregnancy (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=922)
Aha! I don't know quite where I got the idea that she was, but thank you for linking to proof that Hanners grew in a womb rather than a tube. ^_^
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Poll results:
Question: Who will be the center of attention this week?
Marigold - 6 (10%)
Hannelore - 21 (35%)
Sven - 15 (25%)
Dale - 3 (5%)
A new character - 4 (6.7%)
42 - 6 (10%)
Feral ferric ferret - 5 (8.3%)
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I wonder.... Has Hannelore considered the possibility that SHE is the clone? You know, errors in DNA replication could explain the difficulties she has with OCD...
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She should get herself sequenced and go through it looking for errors one base pair at a time.
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That might not be as easy as it sounds.
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There's a convoluted setup for a Steve+assassinHannelore ship here, somewhere....
I would imagine there would be a highly unstable and potentially deadly Steve/Hanna-ssassin/Natasha ship somewhere around the dock...
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Dun-dun-DUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN
Dramatic Comic is Dramatic!!!
Also, I have to commend Angus for starting this particular conversation while Faye was cleaning the broadsword!
(Btw, has anyone seen Sven in the last few minutes?)
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Reading the comic via scroll, at first I assumed the squeeing was a result of the myriad of QC fangirl screams substantiating into the very fabric of the comic.
Also, congrats to Angus on not picking the ever-popular 'Jam It In!' option.
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Full credit to Faye for the growth she has managed.
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I feel this is appropriate. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM)
Once again Dora's weakness for cute things is exposed. Look at them eyes.
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I think its brave of him to ask her out... especially since she is wielding a sword!
im a bit confused by the dialog, is she saying yes or no or did we not get that far?
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So THAT is what Jeph meant.
Hm.
Anyone wanna start a pool on when the hookup date will be?
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October.
2015.
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Asdf where is Sven? Did he leave yet? I hope he left. Or do I? eeeeeh.
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im a bit confused by the dialog, is she saying yes or no or did we not get that far?
She admits that they may be on to something and that she is not completely opposed to give it a chance.
A step, if a baby one.
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Asdf where is Sven? Did he leave yet? I hope he left. Or do I? eeeeeh.
being that Faye is wearing different clothing im assuming its the next day...or jeph forgot...
im a bit confused by the dialog, is she saying yes or no or did we not get that far?
She admits that they may be on to something and that she is not completely opposed to give it a chance.
A step, if a baby one.
d'awwww :-D
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im a bit confused by the dialog, is she saying yes or no or did we not get that far?
She said yes. In the most asinine way possible. Basically, she's taking it slow after Sven, so no Faye Whitaker Airport landing clearance for Angus, he'll have to circle until either the weather clears or he runs out of fuel and crashes in a flaming heap of heartache and regret. Oh, and blue balls, let's not forget the blue balls.
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YES!!!!! FANGUS is a goooooooooooooooo....
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It was Faye in the past but she turned out to be too slutty. I'm not that conservative that I would judge her, but I'm conservative enough that I'm definitely turned off by such a behavior.
How is it possible to apply the fairly negative term "slutty" to anyone without judging them?
I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Certainly. But I don't see how you can do it without judging.
Err, I think you interpret my "I dont judge her" much too literally. I dont think any human being can be that free of judgement in the first place.
For we human beings judge all the time. This flower is beautiful and that one is ugly. This voice is nice and that one is nasty. I like this food and I hate that other food.
Same for people, this one is beautiful and that one isnt. This one is nice and that one really gets on my nerves.
So "I dont judge her" simply means: I dont APPROVE of her, but I TOLERATE her. Its her life, after all. Virtual, fictional life, of course.
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being that Faye is wearing different clothing im assuming its the next day...or jeph forgot...
Faye's not the only one. Dora's in a different outfit too, so I think it must be the next day. I don't quite believe in the neckline of Faye's tank-top in profile compared with the front view, but it's very cool that Jeph bothers to draw her collar-bone bump.
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At first I thought the Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee was Dora running her nails down the blackboard.
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At first I thought the Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee was Dora running her nails down the blackboard.
honestly I thought it was hanners at first.
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Also, it's very nice of Angus to be willing to put on hold any evolution of his relationship with Faye in order to protect Marigold's feelings. Made me go all "awwwwww".
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October.
2015.
So, next week comic time?
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She should get herself sequenced and go through it looking for errors one base pair at a time.
But what's she going to compare it to?
To today's comic:
I sense a great lot of Marigold/Angus shippers suddenly crying out and being silenced. :P
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Err, I think you interpret my "I dont judge her" much too literally. I dont think any human being can be that free of judgement in the first place.
Regarding a specific person or sequence of events? You are assuredly wrong.
It might be impossible to live an entire life without being judgemental of someone (and indeed the attempt may be entirely unhealthy) but it is certainly possible to fail to judge individuals.
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Did anyone else notice this is the first time we've seen Angus without his glasses?
And he has had what appears to be a change of character in the interim?
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Did anyone else notice this is the first time we've seen Angus without his glasses?
I'm not even sure that one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1630) was the first, so nope.
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I heartily second that SQUEEEEE!!!! I couldn't be happier for them, but I wonder how Marigold will react?
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Also, I never called her slut. I said "too slutty". Mostly because I'm too tired to think about a better word for it.
"Promiscuous."
You're welcome. (Vocabulary is your friend.)
I have some other thoughts/comments, but I'm gonnna hold them on account of new comic.
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I just wanted to say... the art looks really great lately. I just noticed that the hair has started looking differently for the last few strips, and I really like this change. I know it's been said many times before but it's nothing short of amazing how the art never stops developing and advancing. I am impressed with how Jeph manages to make his characters look better and better constantly. GREAT job.
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Funniest comic in weeks. No, I don't know why—I'm a mystery unto myself.
im a bit confused by the dialog, is she saying yes or no or did we not get that far?
She admits that they may be on to something and that she is not completely opposed to give it a chance.
A step, if a baby one.
That's our Faye! Or will be, once she's taken a half-baby-step backwards.
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Nope.
I specified no reason for my statement.
So you just made one up on your own. Which is wrong, by the way.
And besides, just because I'm not attracted to, say, black women, that doesnt mean I'm a racist. I'm just not attracted to black women. Its my perfect right to have preferences when it comes to partnership choices, just like everyone else.
Likewise I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Also, I never called her slut. I said "too slutty". Mostly because I'm too tired to think about a better word for it.
Well since you didn't give a reasoning for your statement, I am left to hypothesize at your reasons, and generally the word slutty is used to characterize someone being a slut, and I just dont think Faye fits the bill at all based on the content provided. I don't think its a fair categorization and that was the only possible explanation I could think of that one would call her that.
I also didn't say you weren't allowed to not be attracted to slutty or black or whatever sort of girls you aren't interested in. I don't care what you are or are not turned off by, I said nothing about it, so I don't see why you feel the need to defend your attractions.
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How is having sex with ONE person "promiscuous" in the slightest? As far as we know Sven is the only person Faye has had sex with during the entire course of the series. I would hardly call that "slutty"
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If Faye's a slut, then pretty much the only person who's not a slut in QC is Hannelore. And yes, I'm including Marigold, that harlot.
Edit: Wait, I forgot Hannelore's Mr. Clean fantasy. She's just as bad as the rest of `em!
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Do I really wanna look up what "OTP" means on UrbanDictionary.com?
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Also, it's very nice of Angus to be willing to put on hold any evolution of his relationship with Faye in order to protect Marigold's feelings. Made me go all "awwwwww".
I very much agree with this. ^_^ I mean, Angus and Faye should probably take things slow starting off anyway, but I like that he's taking Marigold's feelings into consideration, and that Faye seems to agree. MAJOR props to Angus for broaching the serious conversation with Faye while she's cleaning the sword! And yay for the return of Faye's blush -- good thing Dora didn't snuggle her from behind, or Faye's head might have exploded.
Oh, and jwhouk, OTP = one true pairing, as in "these two characters are totally meant to be together forever, you guys, omigod!"
Edited because I hate typos. -_-
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Do I really wanna look up what "OTP" means on UrbanDictionary.com?
OTP is fine, though OTPHJ stands for over the pants hand job
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She should get herself sequenced and go through it looking for errors one base pair at a time.
But what's she going to compare it to?
One option would be to count all the noncoding triplets and other anomalies and do a statistical analysis to compare the rate to the human average.
Another would be to take samples from both parents and make sure she is a first generation copy.
Does that sound like our Hannelore, though? The Hanneresque approach would be panic over every thymine dimer, incomplete protein coding, nonfunctional protein codiing, and incorporated retrovirus.
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I don't like it when characters manage to lame their way into a relationship. One of the many reasons I can't watch sitcoms.
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It was Faye in the past but she turned out to be too slutty. I'm not that conservative that I would judge her, but I'm conservative enough that I'm definitely turned off by such a behavior.
How is it possible to apply the fairly negative term "slutty" to anyone without judging them?
I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Certainly. But I don't see how you can do it without judging.
Err, I think you interpret my "I dont judge her" much too literally. I dont think any human being can be that free of judgement in the first place.
For we human beings judge all the time. This flower is beautiful and that one is ugly. This voice is nice and that one is nasty. I like this food and I hate that other food.
Same for people, this one is beautiful and that one isnt. This one is nice and that one really gets on my nerves.
So "I dont judge her" simply means: I dont APPROVE of her, but I TOLERATE her. Its her life, after all. Virtual, fictional life, of course.
Bullshit. "I don't judge her" means that you don't judge her. YOU have judged her, but you usually don't let your hate-dick out of your pants. Shut up and go away, hide behind a thin veil of lies about the semantics of your slut-shaming elsewhere.
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Well, snubnose has already showed himself to be homophobic ("I am not against homosexuals and I TOLERATE them, but I don't want to see them kissing or holding hands in public and I find any MENTION of two men kissing to be extremely disgusting!") and now he's equally misogynistic ("Oh, I TOLERATE Faye but I think she is too slutty because she's slept with one guy during the run of the comic and is considering possibly sleeping with someone else eventually!).
Although I just went back through his posts, and he DOES have pretty much the same standards for men as he does women in regards to sex, and he did make several posts defending homosexuality as not "immoral" (just gross, I guess) and gays as not being "anti-family" against more stridently homophobic posters.
So technically, then, not really homophobic so much as just sexphobic: if you remember, he flipped out at the idea of 10-year olds possibly talking about S-E-X in "Girls with Slingshots" and the idea that kids may be, you know, interested in it and curious about it before the age of 14. Plus he considers anal "totally disgusting." Which doesn't mean much by itself, but taken all together... our man snubnose doesn't seem very comfortable with sex, period. (I'm sure not with periods, either.)
He also feels that boys should not cry (unlike girls: "its just pointless for a guy to cry. Nothing good comes out of it"). That looks do not matter to girls, only confidence and "being a jerk" does, and that "clingy" is a GOOD quality in a guy that women for some* reason just can't appreciate.
* because they all want assholes who'll cheat on them.
As far as judging things goes, he's also the guy who didn't know what tacos were, but refused to look them up because he was SURE they were something disgusting that his sensitive vegetarian self couldn't handle, before people pointed out that maybe looking things up before pronouncing judgment is a good thing, since tacos come in veggie varieties.
I honestly think he's just a sad person and at this point, not worth arguing with.
At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
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Dawwwwwww
Now all we have to do is get Marigold with Hanners and Tai with Raven
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I don't know; if it's true that you metaphorically sleep with everyone your partner's ever slept with, then Tai and Raven getting together would create one of the largest orgies ever witnessed in Massachusetts, on par with the night of Ted Kennedy's electoral win in 1962...
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It was Faye in the past but she turned out to be too slutty. I'm not that conservative that I would judge her, but I'm conservative enough that I'm definitely turned off by such a behavior.
How is it possible to apply the fairly negative term "slutty" to anyone without judging them?
I am free to be turned on and turned off by certain behavior patterns.
Certainly. But I don't see how you can do it without judging.
Err, I think you interpret my "I dont judge her" much too literally. I dont think any human being can be that free of judgement in the first place.
For we human beings judge all the time. This flower is beautiful and that one is ugly. This voice is nice and that one is nasty. I like this food and I hate that other food.
Same for people, this one is beautiful and that one isnt. This one is nice and that one really gets on my nerves.
So "I dont judge her" simply means: I dont APPROVE of her, but I TOLERATE her. Its her life, after all. Virtual, fictional life, of course.
Bullshit. "I don't judge her" means that you don't judge her. YOU have judged her, but you usually don't let your hate-dick out of your pants. Shut up and go away, hide behind a thin veil of lies about the semantics of your slut-shaming elsewhere.
Well, snubnose has already showed himself to be homophobic ("I am not against homosexuals and I TOLERATE them, but I don't want to see them kissing or holding hands in public and I find any MENTION of two men kissing to be extremely disgusting!") and now he's equally misogynistic ("Oh, I TOLERATE Faye but I think she is too slutty because she's slept with one guy during the run of the comic and is considering possibly sleeping with someone else eventually!).
Although I just went back through his posts, and he DOES have pretty much the same standards for men as he does women in regards to sex, and he did make several posts defending homosexuality as not "immoral" (just gross, I guess) and gays as not being "anti-family" against more stridently homophobic posters.
So technically, then, not really homophobic so much as just sexphobic: if you remember, he flipped out at the idea of 10-year olds possibly talking about S-E-X in "Girls with Slingshots" and the idea that kids may be, you know, interested in it and curious about it before the age of 14. Plus he considers anal "totally disgusting." Which doesn't mean much by itself, but taken all together... our man snubnose doesn't seem very comfortable with sex, period. (I'm sure not with periods, either.)
He also feels that boys should not cry (unlike girls: "its just pointless for a guy to cry. Nothing good comes out of it"). That looks do not matter to girls, only confidence and "being a jerk" does, and that "clingy" is a GOOD quality in a guy that women for some* reason just can't appreciate.
* because they all want assholes who'll cheat on them.
As far as judging things goes, he's also the guy who didn't know what tacos were, but refused to look them up because he was SURE they were something disgusting that his sensitive vegetarian self couldn't handle, before people pointed out that maybe looking things up before pronouncing judgment is a good thing, since tacos come in veggie varieties.
I honestly think he's just a sad person and at this point, not worth arguing with.
At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
Once again... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM)
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he did make several posts defending homosexuality as not "immoral" (just gross, I guess)
Your whole posting is about guessing a big load to bullshit. It seems to me you're simply offended I dislike how Faye acted with Sven, so you make all kinds of stuff up to complain about me. I have no issue whatsoever with homosexuals of both kinds in reallife, and I fully support the idea of gay and lesbian marriages.
he flipped out at the idea of 10-year olds possibly talking about S-E-X in "Girls with Slingshots"
Sorry for remembering clearly how I was when I was ten. This is not how a ten year old acts unless something really wrong has happend in his childhood. And even then he wouldnt be that cool about it. He's acting like at least fourteen.
He also feels that boys should not cry
I never said anything like that at all. I said that *I* cant cry. Quite on the contrary, I envy people who still can. Well ok, it doesnt kill me, but I envy them a little bit.
"clingy" is a GOOD quality in a guy that women for some* reason just can't appreciate.
I never said that clingy is a good thing per se. I said I AM clingy and I'm sorry, but thats how I am. And yes, some women appreciate it. If you're not also all kinds of other bad things people wrote about that they associate with "clingy", like controlling, which I am certainly not.
At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
I'm deeply disappointed about you. You didnt also guessed I'm a racist because I'm not attracted to black women. Really, this one is missing. You totally should add it.
And for the record, you're certainly welcome to criticize me whenever you really have an issue, but not if you're just trying to twist everything I said to get a complaint about me.
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he did make several posts defending homosexuality as not "immoral" (just gross, I guess)
Your whole posting is about guessing a big load to bullshit. It seems to me you're simply offended I dislike how Faye acted with Sven, so you make all kinds of stuff up to complain about me. I have no issue whatsoever with homosexuals of both kinds in reallife, and I fully support the idea of gay and lesbian marriages.
he flipped out at the idea of 10-year olds possibly talking about S-E-X in "Girls with Slingshots"
Sorry for remembering clearly how I was when I was ten. This is not how a ten year old acts unless something really wrong has happend in his childhood. And even then he wouldnt be that cool about it. He's acting like at least fourteen.
He also feels that boys should not cry
I never said anything like that at all. I said that *I* cant cry. Quite on the contrary, I envy people who still can. Well ok, it doesnt kill me, but I envy them a little bit.
"clingy" is a GOOD quality in a guy that women for some* reason just can't appreciate.
I never said that clingy is a good thing per se. I said I AM clingy and I'm sorry, but thats how I am. And yes, some women appreciate it. If you're not also all kinds of other bad things people wrote about that they associate with "clingy", like controlling, which I am certainly not.
At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
I'm deeply disappointed about you. You didnt also guessed I'm a racist because I'm not attracted to black women. Really, this one is missing. You totally should add it.
And for the record, you're certainly welcome to criticize me whenever you really have an issue, but not if you're just trying to twist everything I said to get a complaint about me.
What's that, Queen Mab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxiLUEgN6vQ)? I can't hear you. *Walks away.*
Until we see Sven again, I am going to assume that Dora gutted him with the broadsword and Faye is helping clean up the evidence.
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What we're seeing is one of the most self-aware pre-relationship discussions in the history of the comic. Dora and Marten did pretty well too.
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What we're seeing is one of the most self-aware pre-relationship discussions in the history of the human race.
fixed it.
THIS is my FAVOURITE comic so far. I hope Jeph sees this so he can feel good about himself. Because I honestly mean it!!
(note: I'm referring to 1663, "Dora's OTP?")
btw, if anyone doesn't know (I didn't): OTP = One True Pairing.
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Snubnose, it seems you don't even remember your own posts (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24695.msg930745.html#msg930745).
Look, you're from Germany, English is clearly not your first language, but you're not willing to own up to your errors in it. I'm not always in complete agreement with JackFaerie, but he's educated me on several topics in the past here and on other forums. You'd do well to heed his (and other's) advice. I was tempted to say, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but I think I'll leave it at "I'm glad he called you out, or I would have".
Now, I'm not saying you're a troll, but you're certainly starting to act and sound like one - provoking for the sake of provocation.
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on some of these items. But instead of complaining that you "couldn't think of the right word", be proactive - look it up first. And maybe buy a new Duetsch-Englisches Wörterbuch while you're at it.
And when you make an honest mistake, be honest about it. Own up to it. Don't try and defend yourself with obvious doubletalking.
As for the attitudes you seem to have (and remember, until we actualy meet, perceptions on these boards are reality), they really need some adjusting. While it's true that we can't be in your head, I think it's safe to say that many of us wouldn't want to be, based on what you've shown us so far. It sounds... well, kinda dark and a bit scary in there.
Open up some curtains. Let a little light and fresh air in. Dust off a few of those new ideas that you never had a chance to try out.
Oh, and if you need any help, advice, or even suggestions, just ask. It's what we're here for.
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Once again... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM)
Heyheyhey, don't steal my schtick. :x
I kid. Have a jaunty tune. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_1b5uK9Xoc)
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Is it wrong that I've been liking Faye lately? Like in today's strip, for example?
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Angus said:
"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
And Faye does seem to be taking a Goldilocks approach to relationships...
Marten was too soft, Sven was too hard, maybe Angus will be just right!
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I think the Angus thing has the possibility tagged onto it, with Sven neither one wanted to talk about the idea of it being more.
So maybe I'm socially slow, but what happened? Are they dating?
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Not exactly, but sort of. It seems Faye still has some insecurities/fears and almost seems like she is trying to intimidate or talk him out of it but he seems willing to try. She doesnt seem opposed to dating him but will still have her guard up. This would be the first time we have seen Faye dating someone in the comic. Marten was just a friend "does s/he like me" relationship, Sven was "Antagonist with benefits" even though she was hurt in the end, leaving Angus to be the first person she actually dates.
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At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
I don't even know why you would bother in the first place. It would seem s/he just loves to be wrong about pretty much everything...
Oh and if Faye starts getting as wishy washy as akronnick says, I really hope Hanners brings her around like she has pretty much everyone else.
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Oh and if Faye starts getting as wishy washy as akronnick says, I really hope Hanners brings her around like she has pretty much everyone else.
Yeah Hanners does have a good opinion of Angus...though I am not too sure after the Marigold/Sven incident. Henceforth known as the Gold Rush.
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Poll results:
Hannelore's clone is:
A therapist for the highly gifted - 3 (5.3%)
A radiologist - 0 (0%)
A homeless busker - 5 (8.8%)
One of many - 27 (47.4%)
A pain technician on Centauri Prime - 9 (15.8%)
A professional Scrabble player - 6 (10.5%)
42 - 7 (12.3%)
Heeling helium healer - 0 (0%)
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At least, each time I find myself in a ridiculous argument here, it's with snubnose, so I'm stopping, anyway.
I don't even know why you would bother in the first place. It would seem s/he just loves to be wrong about pretty much everything...
Oh and if Faye starts getting as wishy washy as akronnick says, I really hope Hanners brings her around like she has pretty much everyone else.
Like I said, just walk away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxiLUEgN6vQ).
And I now want a Lithium Lion battery for my laptop. 24 hours of power and it eats anyone that tries to steal it. Could be a little heavy, though.
Shouldn't the dials on the power meter be moving?
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Sven was "Antagonist with benefits"
"Was"? You make it sound like Sven is out of the picture and got put on a bus with Meena, Raven, Amir, and Whatsherbucket.
Sven's lurking presence is still a beacon of hope for some of us. He actually has enough character to be an interesting pairing with Faye. This Angus is still a cypher after all his appearances. He's like Qui-Gon Jin, but without the midiclorians.
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"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
Close. It's what they originally agreed to. Then Faye decided those terms weren't okay after all.
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Sven was "Antagonist with benefits"
"Was"? You make it sound like Sven is out of the picture and got put on a bus with Meena, Raven, Amir, and Whatsherbucket.
Of course he's out of the picture now. Why do you think Faye was cleaning the broadsword? :evil:
"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
Close. It's what they originally agreed to. Then Faye decided those terms weren't okay after all.
Oh no, lets not start this again. Last weeks thread was bad enough.
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Sven was "Antagonist with benefits"
"Was"? You make it sound like Sven is out of the picture and got put on a bus with Meena, Raven, Amir, and Whatsherbucket.
Sven's lurking presence is still a beacon of hope for some of us. He actually has enough character to be an interesting pairing with Faye. This Angus is still a cypher after all his appearances. He's like Qui-Gon Jin, but without the midiclorians.
Im talking her past relationships. And I have to agree with westrim on Sven and Faye right now.
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OMG I'M NOT DEAD!
I'm alive and comenting:
1) Thunderdome? Was that a Mad Max reference or a Calder Park reference? (Calder Park being the race-track outside Melbourne where the "Thunder-Dome" happens to be located)
2) Hannelore seems so worried about the posibility of there being a clone of her out there somewhere, but what if SHE IS THE CLONE!?
Please alow me to leave the room before your brains explode, brain matter is just gross...
JD
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Sigh. One for the memories, I guess.
Your whole posting is about guessing a big load to bullshit. It seems to me you're simply offended I dislike how Faye acted with Sven, so you make all kinds of stuff up to complain about me. I have no issue whatsoever with homosexuals of both kinds in real life, and I fully support the idea of gay and lesbian marriages.
...do you want me to provide links? Remember how you said you wanted the image out of your head (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24676.msg930125.html#msg930125) when someone described two men kissing, and then went on to say you never wanted to see stuff like that because it made you queasy? Your exact words were "STOP giving me such mental images AAAAAH THE PAIN !!!"
Note that I amended my initial assessment of you to say that you're NOT homophobic per se, because I HAVE also read your posts in defense of various lgbtq issues. Here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24063.msg872813.html#msg872813) they are (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24054.msg872809.html#msg872809) as well. Meanwhile, here's (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24218.msg888035.html#msg888035) where you gave your views on anal sex, just in case you want to say I misrepresented you thee, too.
Sorry for remembering clearly how I was when I was ten. This is not how a ten year old acts unless something really wrong has happend in his childhood. And even then he wouldnt be that cool about it. He's acting like at least fourteen.
This is not how YOU acted when you were 10. Many, many child psychologists, studies on child sexuality, and people on this very forum disagreed with you. Also, have another example (http://jezebel.com/5530242/horny-before-you-knew-what-it-meant): read the comments, as well, and how many people day this reflects their own childhood. It doesn't reflect mine, but I know that people's experiences differ. I mean, it is even relatively common for pre-pubescent children to get naked together and attempt penetrative intercourse. I would not be entirely comfortable if my own kids did that, I will grant you--but Ialso know that it happens, and these kids do not necessarily grow up to be at all maladjusted.
I never said anything like that at all. I said that *I* cant cry. Quite on the contrary, I envy people who still can. Well ok, it doesnt kill me, but I envy them a little bit.
You did. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24695.msg930640.html#msg930640) "Uh, its just pointless for a guy to cry. Nothing good comes out of it."
I never said that clingy is a good thing per se. I said I AM clingy and I'm sorry, but thats how I am. And yes, some women appreciate it. If you're not also all kinds of other bad things people wrote about that they associate with "clingy", like controlling, which I am certainly not.
No, you definitely said that women who want a long-time relationship should look for clingy. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24731.msg934300.html#msg934300)
I'm deeply disappointed about you. You didnt also guessed I'm a racist because I'm not attracted to black women. Really, this one is missing. You totally should add it.
I was tempted, because in fact, that stance often DOES come from racism, ie, seeing black people as "less than" whites. (At the very least it often comes from subscribing to Euro-centric conceptions of beauty.) But I didn't because I didn't have enough data to really make that judgment. And I DO to make my judgments on actual proof, thanks.
And for the record, you're certainly welcome to criticize me whenever you really have an issue, but not if you're just trying to twist everything I said to get a complaint about me.
Except I didn't.
And by the way! I KNEW that almost anytime I got into an argument here, it was with you. HERE (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19683.msg638370.html#msg638370) is where you called Raven a "slut" and got me (and several other people) on your case about it. One would think that you would have learned that the word is considered highly derogatory back then, and wouldn't have used it "accidentally" to describe Faye now.
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I'm not always in complete agreement with JackFaerie, but he's educated me on several topics in the past here and on other forums. You'd do well to heed his (and other's) advice. I was tempted to say, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but I think I'll leave it at "I'm glad he called you out, or I would have".
Hahah, thanks. I'm, er, a girl though. That's an old photo of me in my user icon. This is a more recent pic of me:
(http://BALETED)
(not my baby)
Ooookay, back to the comic now! I still love Sven and miss him. But I am beginning to be ok with Fangus. And Faye's honesty here really endeared her to me more.
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I think Faye's being as blatantly honest as she can, given the situation. She's saying that a) She's not sure if she can actually handle a relationship, but might be willing to try, b) she actually does like Angus and would, in a perfect world, act on those feelings, and c) she's not in this for a quick fuck. I've got to say, it's a good sign when you start a relationship with a good amount of honesty like that.
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This is a more recent pic of me:
A very cute picture too, IMO.
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Is it just me, or is Faye lapsing into her 'no contractions mode' a bit in panel three? Anyway, cheers for Angus for not beating around the bush.
Oh, and if you need any help, advice, or even suggestions, just ask. It's what we're here for.
Are you volunteering me, along with various and sundry? To quote the immortal Tonto, "Be careful where you aim that plural personal pronoun, kemo sabé." Oh, and I am fair certain JackFaerie is female—at least I hope so, since I've applied the female personal pronoun to her several times.
<Looks up at largish photo> Oh, yeah. Substantiation is nice. Thanks, JF. :-)
Edit: I am assuming you're the elder of the pair.
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why do i feel like this is going to be another friday kiss strip, with a "Have a nice weekend!"
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Is it just me, or is Faye lapsing into her 'no contractions mode' a bit in panel three? Anyway, cheers for Angus for not beating around the bush.
I think she's just saying 'cannot' instead of 'cain't' (for that's how it's pronounced where she (and I) is(are) originally from.(I'm glad I'm not writing this post in LISP, (a symbolic programming language that uses lots of parenthesis, even empty ones like this:()), or else this side totally unnecessary side comment would never execute!))) to emphasize what she's saying, you know, for emphasis.
Even though I've lived in the God-forsaken North for nearly twenty years now, (my God, has it been that long?!) Whenever I'm around Southern folks I slip into that accent like I'd never left.
why do i feel like this is going to be another friday kiss strip, with a "Have a nice weekend!"
Jeph would never leave us hanging for a whole weekend with something that big!
He'll wait until SDCC when he'll have a weeks worth of guest-strips for us to wait through, it's the Webcomic equivalent if the end of season cliffhanger!
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Oh for goodness sakes Faye! Just jump him why donchya?!
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I applaud Faye's honesty here-she's letting Angus know what he's in for by pursuing her. Kudos to her for that.
With all that said, if I were Angus, I'd back WAY off and go find a woman with less emotional and mental issues. I speak from experience when I say that romantic relationships tend to go more smoothly the less mental and emotional baggage both partners have. Faye is lugging behind a couple airport luggage carts worth and is only now starting to lose some of it.
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Oh for goodness sakes Faye! Just jump him why donchya?!
Because he has all the personality and charm of a bowl of cold oatmeal? :-P
Seriously, Svaye sparkled with feisty sass. Fangus dribbles with anemic ennui. :|
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Oh for goodness sakes Faye! Just jump him why donchya?!
Because he has all the personality and charm of a bowl of cold oatmeal? :-P
Seriously, Svaye sparkled with feisty sass. Fangus dribbles with anemic ennui. :|
I respect your opinion, but its pretty clear that fayngus is what's for dinner* now
*(For those don't know/ don't live in the western US, there's a mediocre, overpriced restaurant named Black Angus. "Angus. It's what's for dinner," is its tagline.) (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke)
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Yeah Sven is definitely on the outs as a potential romantic partner to Faye. And like others have said, even when he and Faye were banging he wasn't much more than an "antagonist with benefits". Not a good foundation for a stable relationship.
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Oh for goodness sakes Faye! Just jump him why donchya?!
Hundreds of dead. Lots of sogginess. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1060)
She tried pushing her boundaries once and got hurt.
Angus may not be that kind of guy.
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I respect your opinion, but its pretty clear that fayngus is what's for dinner* now
That is one thing I am not so sure about... the way Faye is sort of dancing around it seems to me that she is enjoying Angus chasing her and now that he is being straight with her she is trying to freak him out a bit. I am probably reading too much into it, the social destruction is just too delicious :lol:
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We've seen this before. Faye lets her impossibly high standards get in the way of a potentially good match (Marten) and she eventually ends up with a partner that ends up hurting her (Sven). I'm just having trouble figuring out who gets the Sven role this time around... since she won't go back to Sven again, and the only remaining male character that's actually around semi-regularly is Pintsize.
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We've seen this before. Faye lets her impossibly high standards get in the way of a potentially good match (Marten) and she eventually ends up with a partner that ends up hurting her (Sven). I'm just having trouble figuring out who gets the Sven role this time around... since she won't go back to Sven again, and the only remaining male character that's actually around semi-regularly is Pintsize.
Clearly, she fucks Marigold Hanners, Steve... Ah, hell if I know.
Sven was far from a rebound or anything, though. She was drunk, he was hot, and she felt the need to push her limits... Plus the whole attraction in general thing. She's matured a bit since then though, so we'll see what happens.
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Because he has all the personality and charm of a bowl of cold oatmeal? :-P
Oh come on now, hes not cold oatmeal! he's slightly above room temperature oatmeal at the very least!
JD
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I applaud Faye's honesty here-she's letting Angus know what he's in for by pursuing her. Kudos to her for that.
With all that said, if I were Angus, I'd back WAY off and go find a woman with less emotional and mental issues. I speak from experience when I say that romantic relationships tend to go more smoothly the less mental and emotional baggage both partners have. Faye is lugging behind a couple airport luggage carts worth and is only now starting to lose some of it.
Only one problem - there isn't one of those in this strip.
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All I can say is awesome. Sven and Faye compliment each other so much. She is exactly who he needs (keeps him in check). The fact that he has changed this much already proves that. And he is exactly what she needs. Angus is too unconfident, too much of a dormat, somewhat like how Marten was. Sven is confident, decisive, adventurous. Assuming hes toned it down a bit, and stays faithful, he is exactly what Faye needs in her life. A guy who will cut through the crap and help her become stronger in the process. The amount she changed in the time she had that fling with him is proof of that.
Angus definitely needs someone with less emotional/memtal issues. He doesn't have the personality to handle something like that, and it will destroy him in the long run. He wouldn't be able to help her and be the man she needs, and it would drag him down. I can definitely say that from experience.
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Wooing Faye is like Thunderdome? So... two men enter?
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All I can say is awesome. Sven and Faye compliment each other so much. She is exactly who he needs (keeps him in check). The fact that he has changed this much already proves that. And he is exactly what she needs. Angus is too unconfident, too much of a dormat, somewhat like how Marten was. Sven is confident, decisive, adventurous. Assuming hes toned it down a bit, and stays faithful, he is exactly what Faye needs in her life. A guy who will cut through the crap and help her become stronger in the process. The amount she changed in the time she had that fling with him is proof of that.
Angus definitely needs someone with less emotional/memtal issues. He doesn't have the personality to handle something like that, and it will destroy him in the long run. He wouldn't be able to help her and be the man she needs, and it would drag him down. I can definitely say that from experience.
I am confused... what do you think just happened here?
Angus is the one cutting through the crap. That is Angus.
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Wooing Faye is like Thunderdome? So... two men enter?
And no one leaves because they are having too much fun... hur hur hur... wait I think that was a little too pervy for my taste.
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Even though I've lived in the God-forsaken North for nearly twenty years now, (my God, has it been that long?!) Whenever I'm around Southern folks I slip into that accent like I'd never left.
Meaning the American South is God-attended? I wonder (despite the smug claims of millions of asshats here).
I respect your opinion, but its pretty clear that fayngus is what's for dinner* now
*(For those don't know/ don't live in the western US, there's a mediocre, overpriced restaurant named Black Angus. "Angus. It's what's for dinner," is its tagline.) (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke)
Actually, the tagline is "Steak: it's what's for dinner"; the terribly original prats at BA simply co-opted it.
I understand Faye's position, but I agree she shows all the signs of screwing this up with over-caution. My god, if Angus hasn't proved he's decent, non-advantage-taking sort by now, what does he need to do? I mean, the guy had a breast in hand and a kiss offered. That's the Gom Jabbar of the male personal restraint test, for chrissake. What more testing does he need?
Other's mileage may vary, but personal experience has taught me that when a girl tells you something like this, what she really means (whether she intends to or not) seems to be "how many hoops can I get you to run through before I downgrade you to 'friend' because the same kind of asshole who hurt me before has come into my life?" Of course, many fine, stable, lifelong romances may have begin with a talk like this—it's just, as I said, not for me.
I'm beginning to think Angus' one hope here is that somehow Marigold goes through the equivalent of an '80's style montage and comes out the other end with some social skills and confidence. And that hope may very well be that Angus winds up with Marigold.
Pondering at the end of this rant, I think what really chaps my hide is simply the metaphor Faye uses. "I'm scared," "I need to go slowly," "I'm willing to try, but I'm not promising anything," and so on are all honest statements I can respect, and "Play it by ear," certainly fits in there. But the idea of Angus having to sit an exam to prove he's worthy of Faye grates on me—and I really don't see any other way to take the expression, given the way she reiterates it in this comic. I certainly understand Faye's wanting to be sure of Angus— all of the walking wounded have that need, and I agree that she is one—but repeatedly saying she wants to 'test' him the way she does seems rather arrogant. My older and (possibly) wiser response is "Fuck your damn test. We—not just me—either try this or not. I want to be your boyfriend, not your student."
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Hahah, thanks. I'm, er, a girl though. That's an old photo of me in my user icon. This is a more recent pic of me:
That pink onesie really brings out your eyes.
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All I can say is awesome. Sven and Faye compliment each other so much. She is exactly who he needs (keeps him in check). The fact that he has changed this much already proves that. And he is exactly what she needs. Angus is too unconfident, too much of a dormat, somewhat like how Marten was. Sven is confident, decisive, adventurous. Assuming hes toned it down a bit, and stays faithful, he is exactly what Faye needs in her life. A guy who will cut through the crap and help her become stronger in the process. The amount she changed in the time she had that fling with him is proof of that.
Angus definitely needs someone with less emotional/memtal issues. He doesn't have the personality to handle something like that, and it will destroy him in the long run. He wouldn't be able to help her and be the man she needs, and it would drag him down. I can definitely say that from experience.
YUP.
Also, I still hate Angus.
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why do i feel like this is going to be another friday kiss strip, with a "Have a nice weekend!"
Because it's hurtling towards us like an out-of-control bus?
Either that or there'll be a robots strip simply to ease off on the drama.
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Are these lyrics running through anyone else's head from these last two strips?
I want your love
And I want your revenge
I want your love
I don’t wanna be friends
I want your loving
I want your revenge
You and me could write a bad romance
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First of all, JackFaerie, mea culpa. I think I knew you were female, but can I blame it on a long discussion about gender identity we had? The truth is probably just old age...
Here's my take on all this...
I think I like where it's heading. I agree with Raoullefere, I'm not fond of the bar exam analogy, but Faye and Angus need to get to know each other a lot better than they do now. Most of what they've got to go on at the moment is coffeehouse sass-sparring. Angus was warned by Marten about her emotional issues, but not with any specificity. He's also found out about her father's suicide, but not with the whole emotional gestalt Marten 9and we) received in "The Talk".
Faye knows of the Marigold incident, and saw him right after Marigold's "attack" (come on, that's what it would be called if a guy did it to a girl...). I think she's willing to give him more of a chance, based on that and his current honesty.
But in the last panels, he's done his usual lightswitch from totally serious honesty to glib flippancy. I think this is what a lot of people don't like about him, but it's his reflexive social interaction mode. I'm sure it helps in his job as a strawman, and it probably got him by at the expensive prep school. I've used it sparingly myself to great effect, but it can be off-putting to some people.
I am a little worried that he considers Faye a "challenge". He's been rebuffed so many times (aw man, I got buffed again?), that he seems to have no "off" switch, no point where a normal person would say to themselves, "fuck it, it's not worth this". Not like Sven, who gets everything he wants, so that when he doesn't it's a challenge. I think some people in here feel he's trying to climb Mt. Faye "because she's there", but I like to think it's because there's something he sees in her that makes him feel she's worth the effort.
Really, we don't know him emotionally as well as we know Faye or several of the others. I think he could be good for her, I just don't know how good she'd be for/with/to him. She really does have hella issues, and even if he becomes just one of the people she works those issues out with, it'll be a good thing. I think it could work.
Or it will all end in tears.
Or in flames.
We'll see!
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Wooing Faye is like Thunderdome? So... two men enter?
And one woman leaves - Broadsword in hand. :-D
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We've seen this before. Faye lets her impossibly high standards get in the way of a potentially good match (Marten) and she eventually ends up with a partner that ends up hurting her (Sven). I'm just having trouble figuring out who gets the Sven role this time around... since she won't go back to Sven again, and the only remaining male character that's actually around semi-regularly is Pintsize.
Clearly, she fucks Marigold Hanners, Steve... Ah, hell if I know.
Jimbo. Or Dale.
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Actually, Faye having a drunken night with Tai might not be such a bad thing.
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repeatedly saying she wants to 'test' him the way she does seems rather arrogant. My older and (possibly) wiser response is "Fuck your damn test. We—not just me—either try this or not. I want to be your boyfriend, not your student."
That is an excellent response. I do not read Faye as bitchy or nasty as a rule the way some people on here do, but I certainly have a problem with her attitude about relationships and sex. Ie: men earn them from women. A remarkable amount of people buy into that dynamic from both ends, and boy does it rub me up the wrong way. :x
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repeatedly saying she wants to 'test' him the way she does seems rather arrogant. My older and (possibly) wiser response is "Fuck your damn test. We—not just me—either try this or not. I want to be your boyfriend, not your student."
That is an excellent response. I do not read Faye as bitchy or nasty as a rule the way some people on here do, but I certainly have a problem with her attitude about relationships and sex. Ie: men earn them from women. A remarkable amount of people buy into that dynamic from both ends, and boy does it rub me up the wrong way. :x
Agreed.
After reading raoullefere's post it just hit me that i should have said just THAT to a certain someone a couple years back. Might have been better than just telling her to fuck off...
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I'm beginning to think Angus' one hope here is that somehow Marigold goes through the equivalent of an '80's style montage and comes out the other end with some social skills and confidence. And that hope may very well be that Angus winds up with Marigold.
I would prefer that to Fangus. Angus doesn't so much need this purity test Faye is running through.
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Marten was too soft, Sven was too hard, maybe Angus will be just right!
heh heh heh
"Angus. It's what's for dinner"
heh heh heh heh
Wooing Faye is like Thunderdome? So... two men enter?
heh heh heh heh heh
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All I can say is awesome. Sven and Faye compliment each other so much. She is exactly who he needs (keeps him in check). The fact that he has changed this much already proves that. And he is exactly what she needs. Angus is too unconfident, too much of a dormat, somewhat like how Marten was. Sven is confident, decisive, adventurous. Assuming hes toned it down a bit, and stays faithful, he is exactly what Faye needs in her life. A guy who will cut through the crap and help her become stronger in the process. The amount she changed in the time she had that fling with him is proof of that.
Angus definitely needs someone with less emotional/memtal issues. He doesn't have the personality to handle something like that, and it will destroy him in the long run. He wouldn't be able to help her and be the man she needs, and it would drag him down. I can definitely say that from experience.
I am confused... what do you think just happened here?
Angus is the one cutting through the crap. That is Angus.
I am also confused, tink. I'm not trying to be mean but erikotaku's Angus analysis seems to be almost the exact opposite of how I see the situation.
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I have trouble imagining Angus swatting Faye with a rolled-up magazine (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=984) when she needs it.
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I have trouble imagining Angus swatting Faye with a rolled-up magazine (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=984) when she needs it.
I think Angus would go with a blunt piece of sass. Which may be even more efficient.
Sven, after all, is not a very good example when it comes to handling other people's issue, is he? If so, I didn't get the memo.
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Even though I've lived in the God-forsaken North for nearly twenty years now, (my God, has it been that long?!) Whenever I'm around Southern folks I slip into that accent like I'd never left.
Meaning the American South is God-attended? I wonder (despite the smug claims of millions of asshats here).
<snip>
Obviously, you haven't seen downtown Nashville lately.
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there's a mediocre, overpriced restaurant named Black Angus. "Angus. It's what's for dinner," is its tagline.)
And we're not talking about a Scotsman of Afro-Caribbean ancestry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxps--huGKY) here, but one of these:
(http://www.johnmariani.com/archive/2006/060702/black%20angus.jpg)
Isn't he cute? How could you eat him? :angel:
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Isn't he cute? How could you eat him? :angel:
With mustard, steak sauce, and some house seasoning. :-D
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Or Barbecued
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Meaning the American South is God-attended? I wonder (despite the smug claims of millions of asshats here).
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Obviously, you haven't seen downtown Nashville lately.
Not sure which side you're arguing for there. I've heard "Lord have mercy on those poor folks" down here, but I've also heard "That's God's judgment." Although I will admit there's been less of the latter than there was after Katrina—the tornadoes that ripped through 'Down Home' the week before the Nashville thing made it pretty clear no favorites are being played.
…it just hit me that i should have said just THAT to a certain someone a couple years back. Might have been better than just telling her to fuck off...
Funny, it occurs to me that your tactic might have worked better for me. :-)
By the way, your avatar dances perfectly to Bad Company's "Can't Get Enough of Your Love" and not to other tunes. Don't know what that means, but it's interesting.
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Ah, hell if I know.
You rang? :wink:
About comeek 1664, despite the inherent arrogance of Faye's metaphor, I think Faye may be trying to protect Angus. She's warning him that he's in for a bumpy ride (heh) and that there's no guarantee that he'll get what he wants out of this. Also, to keep to the educational imagery, it's like when some professors at the start of the first class try to scare students into dropping the class so that only those students who really want to work will remain. Faye may not be saying that she needs to work to earn the relationship -- she may not even know it -- but she's going to have to make an effort to meet Angus halfway. The fact that they're even able to talk frankly about starting a relationship is pretty huge, though, so whether things go well or go down in flames, as least they started off as solidly as they could.
It's too soon for a week-ending kiss between them, I think. Of course, now that I've said that, cut to them having a three-way with the make-out hobo in comeek 1665 . . .
:-P
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Angus said:
"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
And Faye does seem to be taking a Goldilocks approach to relationships...
Marten was too soft, Sven was too hard, maybe Angus will be just right!
Called it.
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Angus said:
"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
And Faye does seem to be taking a Goldilocks approach to relationships...
Marten was too soft, Sven was too hard, maybe Angus will be just right!
Called it.
Totally! Kudos to you. 8-)
If any o' them boys is producing non-metaphorical "porridge" though, it's time to see a doctor. Zoinks.
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Angus said:
"Maybe we can establish some middle ground where you don't care about me too much but we still get to make out"
Doesn't that describe Faye's arrangement with Sven to a tee?
And Faye does seem to be taking a Goldilocks approach to relationships...
Marten was too soft, Sven was too hard, maybe Angus will be just right!
Called it.
Ya think maybe Jeph's cherry picking ideas from the forum?
Naaaah... that'd be too close to fanservice!
I wish there were some way to test it, though.
Quick, we need some really good plot ideas for Monday...
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Marty's metaphorical porridge was too cold, and Sven's was too hot.
Interesting... up until now, Faye's comments about whatever relationship might have happened with Marty have been along the lines of, "Coulda-woulda, maybe, but the timing was never right." This is the first time she's suggested that she actually sees something wrong with Marten as a romantic partner.
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To me, Faye dating Marten now is slightly less squick-worthy than Dora dating Sven. And not by much, either. Though, I suppose Marigold and Angus would have made me feel the same; something about turning a faux-familial relationship into a romantic one just doesn't sit well, I suppose.
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Marty's metaphorical porridge was too cold, and Sven's was too hot.
Interesting... up until now, Faye's comments about whatever relationship might have happened with Marty have been along the lines of, "Coulda-woulda, maybe, but the timing was never right." This is the first time she's suggested that she actually sees something wrong with Marten as a romantic partner.
Timing is exactly what makes porridge too cold!
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Grmpf.
Faye dizzing Marten now ?
And I already thought I was grumpy before ...
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Or is Faye just doing some sour-graping? She sure seemed interested in 480 and didn't deny Dora's accusation in 140. On the other hand, 501 would have been the perfect time for her to say she had feelings but couldn't follow through on them, and she notably didn't.
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1. For comic #1665, panels 1-2, Dora's weakness for adorability is adorable in of itself.
2. Faye's metaphorical hot porridge with Sven is pretty much that: all heat, much burn (and not just to the tongue & mouth...).
3. Faye's metaphorical cold porridge with Marten is that despite mutual attraction for 500-some strips, timing and feelings went on too long and thus went "cold." (Which makes me a little sad, for I am still a Marten+Faye idealist & hold-out even after 1600+ strips.)
4. As for what kind of porridge with Angus, we will see if it is "just right." Or perhaps Three (metaphorical) Bears will come along and cause much mauling.
5. For comic #1665, panels 3-4, I like it when Dora gets touchy/grabby with Faye :evil: .
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So, is Dora Momma Bear - or is that Marigold? :-D
I still think that Dora has the hots for Faye - Though I doubt that she would do anything about it. She may be Bi, but I think she tends to be a 'One person at a time' person, especially if she's in a committed relationship like she is with Marten.
And we know she wouldn't say anything to Marten or Faye
- Marten because it would start him off drooling and fantasising
- Faye because she'd beat the crap outta Marten when he finally let slip he'd not mind a three way
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I'll admit, I was surprised at Dora's reaction in the last panel...and I'm just gonna leave it at that because the Internet has corrupted my mind beyond salvation.
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Two things:
1) I read the punchline, and I LQTM'd, but it didn't really hit me until I went back and read the title of the comic. SO... WRONG. (but also hilarious)
2) Faye's metaphorical "porridge" doesn't refer to the men themselves, but rather her approach to them.
- With Marten, her approach was "too cold": ignoring what she knew was there (from him) for a long time and just never going there, even though part of her wanted to.
- With Sven, her approach was "too hot": diving in head-first without thinking about the consequences at all.
- With Angus, her approach may indeed me "just right": taking a measured approach, but staying open to opportunities as they arise.
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I appreciate that Faye has difficulties with emotions, and that she's been hurt in the past, but I think she could be a little nicer to Angus...he's making a real effort, he's not kicking up a fuss about her take-things-slowly attitude, and he's proven himself as a decent, honest guy in his treatment of Marigold. What more does he have to do? And why doesn't Faye have to prove herself worthy of Angus, pray tell? Is she that wonderful that Angus has to work for her, without any guarantee of her interest in or commitment to him? She really hasn't given him ANY indication that she likes him back, hasn't complimented him in return for the lavish praise he bestowed on her, she's just been generally prickly. I for one kind of think Angus could do better, but then again, we know he likes a bit of antagonism.
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Ah metaphors, boon to clear communication with no chance of misunderstandings!
Wait a minute...
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What more does he have to do? And why doesn't Faye have to prove herself worthy of Angus, pray tell? Is she that wonderful that Angus has to work for her, without any guarantee of her interest in or commitment to him?
You might have a good point; but I think it's less that Faye thinks of herself as a good catch, and rather thinks of herself as a bad one, and is basically telling Angus 'Caution, enter at your own peril'.
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Called it.
Your no-prize is materializing in your right hand even as I type. Don't drop it!
Ya think maybe Jeph's cherry picking ideas from the forum?
Naaaah... that'd be too close to fanservice!
I wish there were some way to test it, though.
Quick, we need some really good plot ideas for Monday...
You realize, of course, that you just did the equivalent of standing upwind. And it's a shame, because I have a tasty plot idea sitting in my brain even as we speak. Sigh Now we'll have to wait weeks, maybe months to try this to give Jeph a chance to settle down and start feeding in the area again (if he ever did; material from 'fairy tales' make for very general spoor) Then we'll need to be vewy, vewy…well, you know.
Edit: somewhere in there I think my metaphor collapsed. Damn you and your poor stamina, figurative language!
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Your no-prize is materializing in your right hand even as I type. Don't drop it!
Mmmmm! Porridge!
METAPHORICAL PORRIDGE!!!!1!!111
Perverts.
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1) I read the punchline, and I LQTM'd, but it didn't really hit me until I went back and read the title of the comic. SO... WRONG. (but also hilarious)
<snip>
...Do ya know how long it took me to figure that out?
"Pease Porridge hot, Pease Porridge cold, Pease Porridge in the pot nine days old!"
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I think Faye acts this way because of her trust issues.
Angus could refuse if he wanted to, but he doesnt. I dunno how good he is at understanding the kind of deal he gets.
Personally I can think of this now only as to end with doom, i.e. an Angus-Faye relationship.
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You realize, of course, that you just did the equivalent of standing upwind. And it's a shame, because I have a tasty plot idea sitting in my brain even as we speak. Sigh Now we'll have to wait weeks, maybe months to try this to give Jeph a chance to settle down and start feeding in the area again (if he ever did; material from 'fairy tales' make for very general spoor) Then we'll need to be vewy, vewy…well, you know.
Edit: somewhere in there I think my metaphor collapsed. Damn you and your poor stamina, figurative language!
I prefer standing upwind. It smells better!
And it's not a matter of stamina, metaphors only stretch so much - they usually fail if carried too far. Like.. like... bra straps? I dunno, I'm at a loss here.
I think Faye acts this way because of her trust issues.
A bit obvious, but a valid point.
Angus could refuse if he wanted to, but he doesnt. I dunno how good he is at understanding the kind of deal he gets.
Again, a good point, succinctly put.
Personally I can think of this now only as to end with doom, i.e. an Angus-Faye relationship.
A matter of opinion, a little blunt, but not too rude.
And you get what may be your first gold star for polite conversation!
Grmpf.
Faye dizzing Marten now ?
And I already thought I was grumpy before ...
No, Faye's not dissing Marten. It's a metaphor. Read more of the other posts, and get that Wörterbuch updated!
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I still think that Dora has the hots for Faye - Though I doubt that she would do anything about it. She may be Bi, but I think she tends to be a 'One person at a time' person, especially if she's in a committed relationship like she is with Marten.
You're right, based on strips 603 and 1400.
I liked Noone-special's idea about what the porridge meant, but when Dora assumed it referred to the men, Faye didn't say no.
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About comeek 1664, despite the inherent arrogance of Faye's metaphor, I think Faye may be trying to protect Angus. She's warning him that he's in for a bumpy ride (heh) and that there's no guarantee that he'll get what he wants out of this.
I think the arrogance is really the problem overall though. Faye is just trying to protect Angus? As if he's not a big boy, and can't handle adult relationships? From what we've seen of him so far, he seems skilled enough with adult relationships, and he's also allowed to make his own choices - if he wants to fall for Faye, that's ok. Yes, she can warn him about her issues, and let him know it's not going to be easy, but she has no business trying to protect him.
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Dora has the hots for... lots of people. But she's not a proponent for an open relationship. I actually think if she were, she could get Marten to fold over it pretty easily; and we'd be having Tai-Tuesdays and Faye-Fridays... possibly Marigold-Mondays?
Faye is just trying to protect Angus? As if he's not a big boy, and can't handle adult relationships?
Eh, I just think she's feeling vulnerable due to the bombshell Angus just dropped and is trying to figure out what exactly he wants in a relationship with her. She wants him to know that a physical relationship might not happen anytime soon, and I think she's also overreacting because she's a tad uncomfortable with starting a new relationship with a boy.
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But who would she get to fill Wednesday, and Thursday?
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Those would be the laundry nights.
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But who would she get to fill Wednesday, and Thursday?
Will and Tai again.
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Penelope thursday!
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About comeek 1664, despite the inherent arrogance of Faye's metaphor, I think Faye may be trying to protect Angus. She's warning him that he's in for a bumpy ride (heh) and that there's no guarantee that he'll get what he wants out of this.
I think the arrogance is really the problem overall though. Faye is just trying to protect Angus? As if he's not a big boy, and can't handle adult relationships? From what we've seen of him so far, he seems skilled enough with adult relationships, and he's also allowed to make his own choices - if he wants to fall for Faye, that's ok. Yes, she can warn him about her issues, and let him know it's not going to be easy, but she has no business trying to protect him.
You'll note the lack of the word "just" in my sentence you quoted above -- yes, she's trying to protect him, but that's not all she's doing since she's also being a belligerent chickenshit about getting involved, but that's Faye. Also, at no point did I say Faye being protective was justifiable, but it's better than withholding information. He asked what she thought, and she told him, warts and all. I think Angus knew things will be difficult with Faye (they have been so far) when he when he broached the 'do I have a shot with you' conversation, but he's willing to try, perhaps Don Quixote-style. Like I said, they may go down in flames, but at least they're starting off with their eyes open.
1. For comic #1665, panels 1-2, Dora's weakness for adorability is adorable in of itself.
YES. Her expressions in 1663 and 1665 have been hilariously adorable -- love it! Also, I wonder if Dora realizes that if she were to snuggle Faye the way she is in panels 3-4 of 1665 that she might attract more business to the coffee shop. I can picture it now . . .
Carl Notappearinginthiscomic: "Dude, I was in line for coffee today, and the two girls behind the counter totally started snuggling. It was so hot."
Dale: "Daaaaang!"
*sound of trampling feet heading toward Coffee of Doom*
*new sign goes up the next day: "TAKE YOUR PORRIDGE OUTSIDE, BOYS"*
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Dora has the hots for... lots of people. But she's not a proponent for an open relationship. I actually think if she were, she could get Marten to fold over it pretty easily; and we'd be having Tai-Tuesdays and Faye-Fridays... possibly Marigold-Mondays?
But who would she get to fill Wednesday, and Thursday?
Will and Tai again.
Penelope thursday!
Let's see, that leaves Saturdays for Marten.
Cause, you know, never on a Sunday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_uYBhcG00&feature=related).
Carl Notappearinginthiscomic: "Dude, I was in line for coffee today, and the two girls behind the counter totally started snuggling. It was so hot."
Where did you find my last name?
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"Pease Porridge hot, Pease Porridge cold, Pease Porridge in the pot nine days old!"
I figured it was from Goldilocks and the Three Bears, but I guess it doesn't really matter.
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I wonder if public snuggling was on the business development plan index? Plan Gamma maybe? It would have to come well before Plan Zeta.
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I still think that Dora has the hots for Faye - Though I doubt that she would do anything about it.
Of course, everyone has the hots for Faye, because she's really (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1592) warm (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1603).
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Of course, everyone has the hots for Faye, because she's really (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1592) warm (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1603).
Plus, as we all know, Dora is a warmth-vampire. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=772)
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'Caution, enter at your own peril'.
Sounds like Faye needs some custom underwear - safety-cone-orange panties with that message on a yellow sign!
(printed on the front and back, just in case :lol:)
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1) I read the punchline, and I LQTM'd, but it didn't really hit me until I went back and read the title of the comic. SO... WRONG. (but also hilarious)
<snip>
...Do ya know how long it took me to figure that out?
"Pease Porridge hot, Pease Porridge cold, Pease Porridge in the pot nine days old!"
Even worse: I just realized that the title could refer not only to his geographic location, but also to the color of his porridge. If it starts looking Manhattan, he'd better see a doctor PRONTO. :laugh:
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yes, she's trying to protect him, but that's not all she's doing since she's [Faye] also being a belligerent chickenshit about getting involved, but that's Faye. Also, at no point did I say Faye being protective was justifiable, but it's better than withholding information. He asked what she thought, and she told him, warts and all. I think Angus knew things will be difficult with Faye (they have been so far) when he when he broached the 'do I have a shot with you' conversation, but he's willing to try, perhaps Don Quixote-style. Like I said, they may go down in flames, but at least they're starting off with their eyes open.
I'm not sure if she's protecting Angus or just herself. I do like "belligerent chickenshit": Faye needs a T-shirt with that on it at times. Or perhaps a magic caption that starts flashing above her head when she goes into this mode. Because it's not always; Faye can be both generous and brave; to an extent she was the latter in this shorter 'talk' than with Marten. I also have to admit I admired her ability to self-efface when he and Dora got together—that took both generosity and courage.
But I'm fairly confident that, simply because he will take it, Faye's going to push Angus until he finally has enough—his 'enough' is apparently fairly capacious, but I feel confident Faye will fill it, sooner or later. My main hope is that she doesn't immediately find someone to engage in another crash 'n burn relationship with right afterward. Angus seems a decent, maybe more than decent guy, and just like Marten, he doesn't deserve that. I'm still astounded Marten doesn't carry around resentment for that one. (Then again, he has 'Dorable Dora—I know I'd take her, insecurities and all, over Faye any day, and I think Marten feels the same, even though loyalty keeps him from saying it. Poor Dora's problem is she's too insecure to realize this; that's one reason for her blow-up when she discovered Faye'd laid Sven—it would have been easy for Faye to use the resentment that could have generated in Marten to break him and Dora up).
On the other hand, if Faye could bestir her chicken-ass and make an effort to do something besides the "oh noes, you don't want to be involved with horrible me" bit, she'd learn something, maybe grow a bit, even if it didn't work. Instead, she really does seem to have made the chance of a relationship a challenge for Angus, and the cynical side of me wonders if she did that just to keep him 'on the hook.' It's flattering, after all, to have that kind of attention without doing anything for it. I can only hope she's honest enough to repeat this exchange as verbatim as possible to her doctor, who will likely call her on it.
This is why I really detest Sven. He was doing so well with Faye, actually helping her, but as soon as sex came into the picture (and I wonder if she unconsciously did that to sabotage her progress: Faye has a gift for this) there was no 'friends with benefits'; Sven simply stopped being her friend and became her paramour, when he certainly didn't need a sexual outlet, and it would have done Faye ten tons of good for him to say, "Stop. We both know you're not ready for this." He had every excuse in the world to do so (he could even blame his sister, for chrissakes), and only the good old 'brains in the dick' reason not to. And lest anyone say it was a 'heat of the moment' event, I'll note that Sven did it again when Faye called him while feeling lonely—'no, don't want to see a movie, already ate, but we can fuck!' All you Angus detractors, take heed: when he got put in a similar position, Angus did what was best for his friend, not his penis. Sven hasn't gotten half the kicking around he deserves for that one. (And yes, it's the precise 'root' of all Sven's problems and failings. Bah-Doom-Boom)
End of book. I have to stop—I keep wanting to add more, and I'm afraid I'll break the tube if this post gets much bigger.
1. For comic #1665, panels 1-2, Dora's weakness for adorability is adorable in of itself.
Yes, Dora has been pretty 'dorable lately. ducks overripe fruits, shoes, and assorted other missiles
You missed! :-D
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This can only be solved through trepanation
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For that matter, why isn't Faye going out and meeting people? Look how few address book entries she had on her phone in 1377. She dodged Hanners's question about why she wasn't doing that in strip 1144. She has Raven's black book, for crying out loud. She knows how to introduce herself, even if she was pushing herself in strip 4.
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For that matter, why isn't Faye going out and meeting people? Look how few address book entries she had on her phone in 1377. She dodged Hanners's question about why she wasn't doing that in strip 1144. She has Raven's black book, for crying out loud. She knows how to introduce herself, even if she was pushing herself in strip 4.
Some of that has to do with personal comfort zones. Some of it might also just be practicality, Faye might actually be thinking of a real relationship and in that case Ravens book, while fun, might not be all that useful. She also has enough baggage that she might figure it's better to work through that than to meet new people. Plus, Marten seems to attract new people to him, she might just figure that if she hangs around with him she will eventually meet the whole town.
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For that matter, why isn't Faye going out and meeting people? Look how few address book entries she had on her phone in 1377. She dodged Hanners's question about why she wasn't doing that in strip 1144. She has Raven's black book, for crying out loud. She knows how to introduce herself, even if she was pushing herself in strip 4.
Some of that has to do with personal comfort zones. Some of it might also just be practicality, Faye might actually be thinking of a real relationship and in that case Ravens book, while fun, might not be all that useful. She also has enough baggage that she might figure it's better to work through that than to meet new people. Plus, Marten seems to attract new people to him, she might just figure that if she hangs around with him she will eventually meet the whole town.
Point 2, I think. The baggage thing. Why start new relationships with the "old" you? Faye strikes me as really wanting to get better before she inflicts tries another relationship. Hece all the warnings, blinkenlights, and caution tape. I mean, the Sven thing went soooo well. And while Sven was a dick, as a lot of people pointed out, Faye's incapable emotional state also caused a lot of the problem. FOB just was not going to work with her.
She may push Angus too far. She may also find that his not-so-quiet determination and generally high threshhold for her form of crazy will help her get through another stage or two of growth (let's see, there's larval, pupal, ... what's next?).
So, no commitment. But she and Angus are both willing to feel their way through the minefield (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1359) that any relation with Faye would be. And if they come out whole on the other side, great.
'Tain't likely, but they seem to think it's worth a shot. Who am I to disagree?
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[Faye] is basically telling Angus 'Caution, enter at your own peril'.
More like "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." amirite?
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Holy crap this is long.
I've gotten a little too... involved before, shall we say, in all the arguing over "Sven, jerk! bad jerk bad!" vs. "Sven, Sven! (actually, not sure what to put in caveman talk here- maybe...) why expect different?", but when people start hauling out essays it's starting to get a little scary.
But I guess I'll dive back in a little bit. I think we all agree that both Sven AND Faye are at fault for circumstances of the end of their relationship/ getting into a physical one in the first place. But I still don't get why people are so angry at Sven for acting exactly as he had been characterized the entire freaking time- in fact, the first bit of character development he got at all was realizing he had messed up as he fucked whatshername (Gsomething Riversomething)? I may be annoyed and depressed at the dog peeing on the carpet yet again, but getting angry would be pretty silly. Yes, he screwed up, we all know that- but what I think people are forgetting is that, for the first time, he knew it too. And has been trying to fix it (yet treated as though he wasn't, like the incident with Marigold) and mature ever since. Oh, this is getting longish too. Stopping now.
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Oh, come now—essay? it's only 600 or so words. Ah heh. Ah hah. AhahahahahaHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Aheh. Ahhhh. You're probably right. Thing is, someone linked to Sven swatting Faye with the magazine to cure self-pity, and I remembered why I thought he was so good for her, being such a good friend, and going to help Faye turn around, get herself out of this pit trap of self-loathing she keeps sitting in. I kept reading, only to see him, as you say, revert to type. And he did it so completely, too. I had such hopes for the guy (the first time around—I'm not quite that daft). I remembered thinking "he's not as bad as Dora says he is." I was right, of course: he's worse.
If he was a dog, of course, I wouldn't be angry—a dog is a dog, and even extensive training doesn't make it anything else. But Sven is a (albeit fictional) human being, which means, supposedly, he can overcome his baser nature. It's our greatest gift that we can do that, sometimes, and our second greatest curse that we sometimes cannot. I hate the curse part.
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"Trap" is a good word. Faye may be preemptively sabotaging herself as opposed to displaying an honest caution label.
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Carl Notappearinginthiscomic: "Dude, I was in line for coffee today, and the two girls behind the counter totally started snuggling. It was so hot."
Where did you find my last name?
Oh, YOU know how.
What? All the Carls meet on a biweekly basis to discuss Carl-related things. I only know because I married one. But don't worry, I don't know the secret handshake!
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"Trap" is a good word. Faye may be preemptively sabotaging herself as opposed to displaying an honest caution label.
trap
I... cannot resist... the Dark Side!
IT'S A TRAP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0&feature=related)
Aheh. Ahhhh. You're probably right. Thing is, someone linked to Sven swatting Faye with the magazine to cure self-pity, and I remembered why I thought he was so good for her, being such a good friend, and going to help Faye turn around, get herself out of this pit trap of self-loathing she keeps sitting in. I kept reading, only to see him, as you say, revert to type. And he did it so completely, too. I had such hopes for the guy (the first time around—I'm not quite that daft). I remembered thinking "he's not as bad as Dora says he is." I was right, of course: he's worse.
If he was a dog, of course, I wouldn't be angry—a dog is a dog, and even extensive training doesn't make it anything else. But Sven is a (albeit fictional) human being, which means, supposedly, he can overcome his baser nature. It's our greatest gift that we can do that, sometimes, and our second greatest curse that we sometimes cannot. I hate the curse part.
That is true. They were pretty good friends before doing the horizontal samba. If only Faye hadn't kissed him out of the blue... just like Marigold did to Angus... Oh Jeph, you bastard.
Though that does support the point. Angus and Sven are fundamentally different people leading fundamentally different lives. If Angus banged Marigold for a couple months (assuming in this scenario that sex was all they both wanted, as Faye said was the case) then fucked a one night stand, that would be horrifying. But that was par for the course for Sven, up until he lost Faye. If a candy bar threw itself in his face, he was gonna chow down.
And I guess a nonsentient being was a bad example. How about a guy who's a shoplifter, lifting candy and such just because it it's so easy for him, it tastes good and it's over quick- then one day a clerk takes a shine to him and gives him a gobstopper every day for, I dunno, walking her dog. Acouple months later the guy filches a Butterfinger from the shop and eats it, but feels bad for eating it for the first time. He fesses up to the clerk, who gets really sad and bars him from that checkout aisle, and starts changing his thieving ways. But every time from then on, all the clerks give him a hard time and check his pockets, even though he has a whole cart of groceries and books on the Crusades to buy, damnit! On his way to checkout the Reese's display fell right in front of him, but he walked around it!
See what I mean? I may have stretched it a little, but that's mostly my perspective on Sven and the way he's been treated by the characters and some of the fanbase (but not by Jeph, methinks) since he and Faye ended things.
...That's a bit long. Oh well, I had an analogy to make.
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[Faye] is basically telling Angus 'Caution, enter at your own peril'.
More like "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." amirite?
No, that's "Mawwage! Twue Wuv!"
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[So, no commitment. But she and Angus are both willing to feel their way through the minefield (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1359) that any relation with Faye would be. And if they come out whole on the other side, great.
I'll make sure that Angus still has his cleaning rod and foot powder.
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And I guess a nonsentient being was a bad example. How about a guy who's a shoplifter, lifting candy and such just because it it's so easy for him, it tastes good and it's over quick- then one day a clerk takes a shine to him and gives him a gobstopper every day for, I dunno, walking her dog. A couple months later the guy filches a Butterfinger from the shop and eats it, but feels bad for eating it for the first time. He fesses up to the clerk, who gets really sad and bars him from that checkout aisle, and starts changing his thieving ways. But every time from then on, all the clerks give him a hard time and check his pockets, even though he has a whole cart of groceries and books on the Crusades to buy, damnit! On his way to checkout the Reese's display fell right in front of him, but he walked around it!
To make this work for Sven, you have to include that one of the clerks already knew he was a thief, but kept having to pay for the loss caused by his stealing because no one paid any attention to her—she was a psycho, right? So it's not just the one incident—that's merely the icing on the cake.
The dude is going to have to go around more than one collapsed Reese's display to re-establish trust, because he's vindicated the view that one clerk, the person who used to receive the grief he didn't for his actions, held all along, and everyone believes her now. To me, that's kharma (or reaping what you sow, or whatever you want to call it).
...That's a bit long. Oh well, I had an analogy to make.
Nothing wrong with long, despite what the proponents of instant-gratification-isn't-fast-enough and TL;DR may spew. Means you're expressing your thoughts fully. Besides, it's the end of the week, no one cares—have you not seen the ridiculous stuff posted at the end of previous WTC's?
Which reminds me:
What? All the Carls meet on a biweekly basis to discuss Carl-related things. I only know because I married one. But don't worry, I don't know the secret handshake!
Heliphyneau, I think the secret handshake is right-handed with two clockwise turns of the wrist, followed by putting your left hand on your right wrist and subtly beating out the rhythm from the 'galloping' part of William Tell Overture with ascending (towards the thumb) motions of your first three fingers—no pinky. But the battery of the transmitter I implanted in the Carl I used to know died a couple years back, or else he took to wearing foil on his noggin. It's not terribly likely, but they may have altered it a little.
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Until yesterday's comic, I seriously thought that Angus was Sven. This week's comics make significantly more sense now.
Why do the two dudes after Faye have to look so similar!!
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I've had that problem between Angus and Wil, too. Doesn't help that they dress almost exactly the same, either.
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Let's have all future polls include "porridge".
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Porridge is the new Pancakes!
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Carl Notappearinginthiscomic: "Dude, I was in line for coffee today, and the two girls behind the counter totally started snuggling. It was so hot."
Where did you find my last name?
Oh, YOU know how.
What? All the Carls meet on a biweekly basis to discuss Carl-related things. I only know because I married one. But don't worry, I don't know the secret handshake!
Well, it's not like we keep the meetings a secret. But the handshake (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1034)... well, who says it involves hands? I don't think I'm saying too much there.
Heliphyneau, I think the secret handshake is right-handed with two clockwise turns of the wrist, followed by putting your left hand on your right wrist and subtly beating out the rhythm from the 'galloping' part of William Tell Overture with ascending (towards the thumb) motions of your first three fingers—no pinky. But the battery of the transmitter I implanted in the Carl I used to know died a couple years back, or else he took to wearing foil on his noggin. It's not terribly likely, but they may have altered it a little.
We found the transmitter. The whole "William Tell" thing was worked up specifically for your (and our) entertainment.
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Porridge is the new Pancakes!
I can't help but wonder if you timed this post to sync up with your post's number and the number's assigned moniker (Don't know any other way to express that). Anyway, Urban dictionary gives this word so many meanings it will keep people guessing, if nothing else (because no one on the internets actually means what they write, and we're all secks fiends, or so I've been told). And when we tire of it, we can move on to biscuits. Or maybe muffins.
We found the transmitter. The whole "William Tell" thing was worked up specifically for your (and our) entertainment.
The fact that you use 'we' makes this believable.
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Hey, you planted the thing.
Carl-A was pretty upset, but we talked him out of anything more drastic than just messing with you.
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Apparently not a test tube baby:
Hanners Mother Pregnancy (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=922)
Aha! I don't know quite where I got the idea that she was, but thank you for linking to proof that Hanners grew in a womb rather than a tube. ^_^
That's how she was incubated, but that strip leaves plenty of room for wondering how she was conceived. In fact her mom had trouble figuring out how it could have been done the normal way. Maybe Hannerdad cooked up Hannerembryo in his lab and secretly implanted it into his wife. There may be a reason Hannelore believes that kind of thing is possible (strip 1119).
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Gestated. Unless she was concieved in an egg, which granted, would have made the pregnancy that much weirder.