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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 29 Jul 2010, 19:58
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Didn't see this as a thread anywhere else, so I figured I'd broach the topic:
Has anyone ever thought about/considered what Questionable Content: The Movie would look/sound like?
For reference, I'm thinking along the lines of either a live-action version of the comic, or even an animated version but with particular voice actors/actresses.
It's been mentioned in another thread about how Winona Ryder is the inspiration for Dora; would you cast her as Ms. Bianchi, or someone else? And who would you want to have play Marten, Faye, Hanners, etc.?
And, as an added bonus, what would you like to see as the "storyline" for the movie? I.e., pick and choose various arcs from the strip as written, or just go with whole new script with the existing characters?
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Well, you've got to have the main arc of Faye moving in with Marten, leading up to "the Talk", and into Marten & Dora's relationship.
But with all the side stories, characters and short arcs, I see it more as a series than a movie!
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Jeph said once that he knows what Dora sounds like. You'd want to try for the voice actress who did Jane Lane from Daria.
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Would that make Daria's voice Faye?
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I imagine it would be equal parts Mission Hill and Clerks.
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If Jeph approves, I think the people who voiced the you tube links (for #510 and #511) would be a good start.
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If Jeph approves, I think the people who voiced the you tube links (for #510 and #511) would be a good start.
Okay, that one I don't remember... link?
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If Jeph approves, I think the people who voiced the you tube links (for #510 and #511) would be a good start.
Okay, that one I don't remember... link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ0KGPwHzOE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ0KGPwHzOE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FjU7I59kI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FjU7I59kI)
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Didn't see this as a thread anywhere else, so I figured I'd broach the topic:
As far as I can tell there's been nothing in the last two years.
Prior to that, there was a movie thread which started out differently but eventually discussed casting (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19733.0.html).
I think it's fine to discuss it again.
Maybe a story about the band getting serious and struggling to make it?
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The band? Really? Marten, Hanners and Amir? Natalie left... and we haven't even heard from Amir in I-don't-know-how-many hundreds of strips!
Then again, with side glimpses into their lives, a mockumentary (a la Spinal Tap) may work really well...
Interviews with the lead guitarist's girlfriend (who incidentally runs a coffee shop), and his other roomates (human and robotic), little vignettes highlighting Hanner's issues, maybe an interview with Dr. Buenvenida, highlights from Marten's and Hanner's upbringings (parental interviews!)...
But that Amir, man, he's a mystery. Just some creepy old dude hanging out at indie concerts... :mrgreen:
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this is the problem in adapting a webcomic with no plot anymore:
there's no plot anymore
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this is the problem in adapting a webcomic with no plot anymore:
there's no plot anymore
You say that like it's a bad thing...
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For a webcomic, no, it isn't.
For a movie, well...
there may have been a few that have gotten by without one, but it's a rare event!
I think that's why Spinal Tap came to mind.
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I personally think it would work well as a soap.
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Prior to that, there was a movie thread which started out differently but eventually discussed casting (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19733.0.html).
Wow! By the standards of internet forum discussions of film-adaption casting, that thread was almost non-retarded! Such discussions generally include proposing:
- Actors over 30 to play high-school students.
- Actors the poster thinks are hot, regardless of suitability.
- White actors to play Asian characters.
Just goes to show how stupid forums are, right? It's not as if any of these things would happen in real life...
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I personally think it would work well as a soap.
...you mean it isn't one already?
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He means in the context of a live-action adaptation. But yeah.
Talking of adaptations and questionable casting; Akima, as someone who clearly appreciates a fine cartoon, how do you feel about M. Night Shambles' The Last Airbender?
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I do think there's a basic plot for a movie:
You could go through the whole "When Marten Met Faye" thing, maybe updating things a bit (speeding up the inclusion of Dora, for example). The "Big Reveal" flashback begets Marty meeting Hanners, and Dora hooking up with Marten; then the whole Sven thing (which could result in an "R" rating for the movie).
Don't know if you could fit the whole Marigold/Angus/Faye/Hanners arc into the first movie, but you could try.
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Talking of adaptations and questionable casting; Akima, as someone who clearly appreciates a fine cartoon, how do you feel about M. Night Shambles' The Last Airbender?
I believe your question has been answered;
- Actors over 30 to play high-school students.
- Actors the poster thinks are hot, regardless of suitability.
- White actors to play Asian characters.
Just goes to show how stupid forums are, right? It's not as if any of these things would happen in real life...
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this is the problem in adapting a webcomic with no plot anymore:
there's no plot anymore
You never had a plot! That's the illusion!
WHile I'll admit I enjoy them, I also understand that the plots in QC are all at best temporary things. If you take a broad view of the strip, plots are usually transitory diversions that supplement whatever the hell is actually going on—usually fart jokes, commentary about what it's like to be an 'Indie Kid," a "Goth," etc., or simply the experiences of a twenty-something in the Naughts. If you want to get technical about it, QC is really a modern Comedy of Manners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedy_of_manners). It's all about how the characters interact. True, they've grown out of the 'stock' phase so that social conventions aren't as much a part of it as they once were, and plot has helped with this, but it's the interactions and observations that drive QC. In other words, plot/shmot.
If we're going to link this thread to WooToob, can't leave this QC Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyY3eJEWTyQ&feature=related) out. The sheer silliness makes it worth a view.
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Despite the poorly rendered sims style, this is good for few chuckles. Pretty much what would happen if Hollywood (or Yelling Bird) got hold of it!
Was that supposed to be Hannelore tangling with the ninja in the bathroom?
Sad part is, I have no idea who any of those actors are, except for Hugh Jackman, and I'm not sure who he was playing...
And I don't want to look them up and get depressed because I haven't been to a new movie (except HP and LotR) in 15 years or so.
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If we're going to link this thread to WooToob, can't leave this QC Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyY3eJEWTyQ&feature=related) out. The sheer silliness makes it worth a view.
That was awesome. Made me smile this morning, and I truly needed it.
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If it works out, we could have a spinoff of Steve's adventures with the DoKYA
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If we're going to link this thread to WooToob, can't leave this QC Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyY3eJEWTyQ&feature=related) out. The sheer silliness makes it worth a view.
Summer Glau as Hanners makes so much sense. Seriously.
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Summer Glau as Hanners makes so much sense. Seriously.
- Actors the poster thinks are hot, regardless of suitability.
:-D
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Still, Glau can do the blank look and the obsessed look well, and last time I saw her (admittedly back in Sarah Conner Chronicles), she was appropriately scrawny (for the role).
Anyway, I'm not sure we really know how old Hannelore is.
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Still, Glau can do the blank look and the obsessed look well, and last time I saw her (admittedly back in Sarah Conner Chronicles), she was appropriately scrawny (for the role).
Anyway, I'm not sure we really know how old Hannelore is.
She's in her early 20's. Remember, she just turned 22 when they went out Karaokeing with Sven - which was nearly 700 strips ago (about what, a year or two strip-time?).
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I think about four-eight months. And you are assuming Hannelore told the truth about her age, instead of "I was artificially aged in a tank because Dad doesn't care for toddlers, or small children, or—I'm really ten."
She did mention experiencing a trauma at a birthday party, though. Can't recall what age it was celebrating.
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16
strip 1069
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And there was the high-school laser portrait (http://qcjeph.livejournal.com/?skip=40), so she must not have missed out on all the trauma.
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everyone played by Morgan Freeman
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If it were a movie then 1 to strip 658 would probably fit in with Hollywood pretty well. If that's too long, then it could be 571. In the worst case scenario, take it to 510.
{edit}I think 658 would work well but Pintsize stories would probably have to be edited down a little bit (e.g. starting the film at 3 rather than 1).
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It has been shown that the first few strips could be made into a movie, dialogue intact.
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It has been shown that the first few strips could be made into a movie, dialogue intact.
When was that?
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Jwhouk is referring to this fan-made live-action version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8UnPXvnkYo) of Comic 3 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3) and Comic 4 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4).
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That's only 2 strips and has a run-time of approx 1min 25 secs. That is approx 42 seconds per strip. If he was arguing that you could do 1 to 658 without editing (which is what he seemed to be saying to me) then:
658x40 secs=26320 seconds which translates as over 7 hours!
I was going to do 658 x 45 secs to give an upper limit but the lower estimate still makes the point considering that Hollywood doesn't really want films over 2.75 hours. Even if you do it to 510 you will have to edit (or split it into more than 1 movie).
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Or cut a lot of the minor side stories and AnthroPC hijinks.
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Or cut everything but the AnthroPC hijinks.
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The transitions between strips could be done easier. Those first couple of strips were relatively easy to put together as a short clip.
Obviously, some of the culture refs from 2003-04 don't translate well six years down the pike...
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I would cut out most the AnthroPC's high-jinks, most of the music talk (leave a little in to point to the character) most of the subplots (e.g. write Sara[1] almost completely out).
To tell the truth I am tempted to go through the comic, edit it down and try and write a screenplay but I need to do a lot of job hunting and I already have a writing project.
{edited for grammar}
[1] I would have Faye tell Sara that she was staying at Marten's but cut away before we see Sara's reaction.
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guys this is a slice of life comic, the dramaturgical curve is an infinitely long line of blips stretching off into the distance, terminating when Jeph feels it should. It would be a shitty as hell movie if there wasn't a screenplay that completely circumvented the original story and actually made it suitable for the screen. They are two totally different mediums with completely different writing considerations and a Questionable Content movie would be terrible unless it was shot by, like, fuckin' Pasolini or some shit. I would absolutely watch a Pasolini take on the QC verse. But Pasolini is fucking dead.
Man, this guy is right. Pasolini is TOTALLY dead. Google said so. (I didn't actually check.)
He's right, though - it would need to be a real screenplay, with a real ending of sorts. You'd have to move some of the stuff around in the storyline to make it work - like, Marten's a member of a shit band, and he's trying to get something together, but it's not working. He hates his job, whines like a bitch to Pintsize...until he meets the girl of his dreams who happens to work at the local coffee shop. Marten and his band members fraternize with the cute girls at the coffee shop, and hijinks ensue - until a rival coffee shop opens up across the way! Hooah! Can Marten and his band raise enough customers to keep Coffee of Doom in business and still impress the girl of his dreams?
Seriously, shitty.
Some strange mix of Clerks and Waiting might work well here. Maybe.
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The simplest plot for a QC movie would center around Faye's difficulty with relationships, culminating in a happy ending when Angus proposes to her, allowing Dora to fulfill her dream of being a flower girl in a wedding.
It could be done. And could be done in such a way to lead to the possibility of sequels.
In many ways, though, a QC movie would be like The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; you have to take out too many things to make the movie a reasonable length, and then the movie pales in comparison to the radio series and the book.
If Jeph ever gets to do a QC movie/TV/Animated seried, I'm ready to offer my services as a film scorer. (Just the orchestral stuff, I'm sure there'd be plenty of indie music which would make a killer soundtrack album.)
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I think if you ditched "In many ways, though," you're on to something in that third paragraph. I could see a QC series, but a doubt a movie would in any way carry through the 'reality' the comic produces. What you're describing sounds disturbingly like Generic Romantic Comedy plot #3. I know there are things that are REALLY DIFFERENT about Faye, but that's before an industry writing team got done with her.
Also, be a heluva thing to toss Marten into a supporting slot.
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If it was an animated movie, I suggest Billy West and or Maurice LaMarche for all the male roles, and Tress MacNeille for all the female roles :-D
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you're on to something in that third paragraph. I could see a QC series, but doubt a movie would in any way carry through the 'reality' the comic produces. What you're describing sounds disturbingly like Generic Romantic Comedy plot #3. I know there are things that are REALLY DIFFERENT about Faye, but that's before an industry writing team got done with her.
Also, be a heluva thing to toss Marten into a supporting slot.
" ...center around Faye's relationships, culminating in a happy ending with Angus proposing..."
..... ..... ..... This shows in a nutshell how Hollywood (or maybe ANY squeezing down to feature-length) completely fucking DESTROYS the essence, the reality of what we know and love here. And the casting and direction would never come close to Jeph's tone and style, unless they gave him complete creative control, which they'd never give up to the mere founder-author-creator-writer-artist-soul of the "property."
A shame, but maybe better not to do it at all.
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1. QC would be a tv series, not a movie.
2. QC would be something soap - like.
3. Only unlike modern soaps, there woudl actually be relationships and the show would still go on and still be funny.
If we're going to link this thread to WooToob, can't leave this QC Movie Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyY3eJEWTyQ&feature=related) out. The sheer silliness makes it worth a view.
Summer Glau as Hanners makes so much sense. Seriously.
Only if we get Sylvester Stallone as Marten. Seriously.
Not. (Just in case you wondered)
everyone played by Morgan Freeman
Yay ! Works for me.
Jwhouk is referring to this fan-made live-action version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8UnPXvnkYo) of Comic 3 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3) and Comic 4 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4).
ROTFL OMG its so awful. :D But fun ! :D
Really, it sounds like George Lucas wrote the dialogue. ;)
And the actors are actually too young ! :lol: Especially Steve. Marten and Faye are OK this way. But Steve is too adult to be acted believably by a teenager. :)
And the location just is really bad too. :wink:
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For once you are correct, snubnose; Summer Glau is the wrong choice for Hannelore. Clearly, Hanners should be played by Felicia Day.
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Jwhouk is referring to this fan-made live-action version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8UnPXvnkYo) of Comic 3 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3) and Comic 4 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4).
ROTFL OMG its so awful. :D But fun ! :D
Really, it sounds like George Lucas wrote the dialogue. ;)
And the actors are actually too young ! :lol: Especially Steve. Marten and Faye are OK this way. But Steve is too adult to be acted believably by a teenager. :)
And the location just is really bad too. :wink:
Oh god QC universe, I am so sorry for taking that video production class in high school (actually, no I'm not). That is totally my video guys, OH GOD. That was back when I think 400-450 was the newest issue btw...damn.
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For once you are correct, snubnose; Summer Glau is the wrong choice for Hannelore. Clearly, Hanners should be played by Felicia Day.
Maybe we should get cracking on genetics, focusing on clone manipulation and forced aging, and then simply bio-engineer the entire cast.
It's the future, man.
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Then where's my damned jet pack, already?
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In the garage next to the flying car.
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It sells for USA $125,000 including a training course in using it.
http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/RB-i.htm
or
http://www.jetman.ch/?page_id=24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMjuzy68hw0
can we acknowledge that this is the future now?
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can we acknowledge that this is the future now?
NO!
I want to fly on the Pan-Am Space Clipper to the wheel shaped space station where I can make a video-phone call before I catch the shuttle to the Moon-base!
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Oh. come on! Whaddya think this is, the year 2000 or something?
Oh, wait…
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Yeah, that's right, it's 2010.
"The Year We Make Contact" my ass.
Arthur C. Clarke was full of shit.
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Still. My Dad did point something out to me a while back.
Y'know how in lots of old-school science fiction flicks or TV shows, there'd be the Holy MacGuffin of plot devices... Data Chips. A tiny, easy-to-lose handful of plasticy metal thingies that held the secrets that could save the entire country / world / galaxy / universe / multiverse. The heroes would spend the entire movie chasing these things down because of the precious data held on them, and the secrets they'd reveal, and how important it all was. And then they'd finally get them, and plug them into something, and this gigantic screen would show the recording of the precious Data and it would have such a big important influence on the plot. Remember that?
USB thumb drive and widescreen projector.
Not only does this fancy technology exist, it's so common that we find it mundane. I'm sorry, but that officially makes it the future.
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Yeah, but that was just an acknowledgement of where the tech was already going. The plot's just a rehash of a "book of secrets" plotline, where there's something in this one copy of an old book that's hidden away, or lost, or maybe it's the one person with the knowledge that needs to be rescued or found...
I'm NOT going to TVtropes this, but I know it's in there, somewhere. I've got grading to do.
I know we live in the future of our pasts, but I really wish it had that "gee whiz" sheen to it, ya know?
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I dunno. In the early nineties, when Hayes, one of the really big modem companies, damn near went belly up (I can't remember why), I asked a cutting edge networking guy why we didn't have wireless communications yet. He told me it was impossible, and then proceeded to list all the reasons why it would never be feasible.
You can now buy a web-browsing hand-held computer that you can carry, if not anywhere, than a rather lot of places and pull massive amounts of data onto the teeny screen (by the standards of the early 90's, when a comp-sci major told me that if I wanted unlimited storage for a PC my department was ordering, I needed a one Gigabyte drive [I think, may have been four], because I'd never fill that sucker up) without really thinking about it and with nary a wire in sight. You don't have to be Lt. Uhura or Spock, either; it's so easy absolute morons can do it.
If that's not gee-whiz enough for you, Carl, you've got higher standards than we'll probably ever live up to. If that's the case, I think you, to satisfy your lust for novelty, may need to be the one who volunteers to get teleported the first time.
The real problem with flying cars is that very few people seriously want them. If they did, we'd have them. Ditto for space exploration. But we love to yak mindlessly, lookit each other's images, and let one another know the instant we get married, get drunk, fall down, or fart, depending on our priorities. Thus, behold the smart cell-phone.
And with farts, I think I've almost got us back to the thread topic (only fair, since I derailed it quoting "The Electro Gypsy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wX8AbBWc08)). How many farts can the QC movie have and remain semi-tasteful, and how many can it not have and still be QC?
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The heroes would spend the entire movie chasing these things down because of the precious data held on them, and the secrets they'd reveal, and how important it all was. And then they'd finally get them, and plug them into something, and this gigantic screen would show the recording of the precious Data and it would have such a big important influence on the plot. Remember that?
USB thumb drive and widescreen projector.
Not only does this fancy technology exist, it's so common that we find it mundane. I'm sorry, but that officially makes it the future.
One of the James Bond movies has the doomsday missiles' launch codes on a CASSETTE TAPE! which (Blofeld?) runs around with on an open-sea oil platform, I kept imagining the tape falling into the ocean or being roasted by the explosions or just getting dirt in it...
Very amusing. :lol:
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1.) I asked a cutting edge networking guy why we didn't have wireless communications yet. He told me it was impossible, and then proceeded to list all the reasons why it would never be feasible.
2.) The real problem with flying cars is that very few people seriously want them. If they did, we'd have them.
1. I wanted to write a book full of those way off-base quotes by industry leaders, trend-predictors, etc, but I think it's been done... I forget the title, though.
2. I want one! Really! But I don't matter, I don't have $100,000 or whatever it would cost.
And I think there's probly other issues, like all the morons who'd crash em (drunk fliers!!) buzz their friends, etc etc. You think road accidents & traffic jams are destructive, disruptive?? Wait til millions of dolts are late for work (rush hour would have new worlds of pain) or cutting each other off, trying to get into (or out of) sports stadia, ... boggling.
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Flying cars anyone? http://www.moller.com/ (http://www.moller.com/)
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2. I want one! Really! But I don't matter, I don't have $100,000 or whatever it would cost.
And I think there's probly other issues, like all the morons who'd crash em (drunk fliers!!) buzz their friends, etc etc. You think road accidents & traffic jams are destructive, disruptive?? Wait til millions of dolts are late for work (rush hour would have new worlds of pain) or cutting each other off, trying to get into (or out of) sports stadia, ... boggling.
Yes. When I think about it with any degree of seriousness, I imagine that someone, somewhere, had an epiphany for a $10k flying car, then tried to drive into a medium-size city at 8 or so in the morning to do some legal work, translated what he saw into the hurtling horror his invention would make it, then turned around to go home and burn the plans as fast as he could.
As is, the idea they let John Travolta fly a jet is enough to terrify me in and of itself. Getting the crazy old bat elderly lady down the road from me up there, too, is the stuff of nightmares.
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Then where's my damned jet pack, already?
In the GTA game San Andreas! :-D Seriously, after you get to the 3rd city (Las Vegas) there's a mission where your reward is your very own jet pack, and it's just about as cool as you'd think - put it on in the game, and you rise up and fly around the already cool SA sandbox-world. :joy:
I was disappointed by not being able to carry my favorite heavy weapons up with me, to deal with those damned annoying police helicopters, but I bow to realism - the heaviest it lets you use up there are pistols.
I get your point, Carl -(see below)- I grew up on a farm in the middle of the last century - our water pipes froze in winter, we had like the last rotary phones in the US that you picked up and told a live operator the number you were calling, traveling salesman came around with things local stores didn't have, and when I went to college for computers, we had some old UNIVAC stuff with punched cards... So when I wax effusive about flying my own GTA jet pack around, I'm seriously enthralled by the great tech advances. :-D
And it's one of my favorite speculations - what people of one era would think of a future era's STUFF... [The 1938 World's Fair made a film, "The World Of 1960" (I think was the title), and it's weirdly fascinating, public dirigible transportation, grooved highways, & more!]
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[sigh]
My point was again, missed. Don't worry, I'm used to it...
It's the sheen that's not there. All the new whizbang tech we have is cool, and amazing. but it all developed naturally, nearly evolving before our eyes. Those old "vision of the future" things were leaps and bounds past what we could do - dreamer's stuff. What we have now is at that level, but taken completely for granted, because we wathced it evolve. There's been no "quantum" leap forward!
My first computer work was done with punchcards. I used teletype terminals (with the 2 foot wide punch paper), and my thesis was written using a VT100 and a 1200 baud modem to hook up to the mainframe. My first computer at work had a 10 MB hard drive, the biggest you could get. I don't even want to talk about my first laptop...
Yes, iPads and smartphones are amazing. But there are touchscreens everywhere, they're already mundane.
I dunno, it's just the GOM in me, I guess!
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I think I don't get you because the sheen is there for me. Example: I just started using Skype today, and it's astounding I can do that, and on a 5 year old machine, too. I'll add 'naturally' is a bit of a stretch, to me. 'Natural' development, my studies tell me, is 'ARGGGHH! It's different! Break it, burn him. Stick to the old, holy ways." A few people don't do this, however, and the thing passes around in secret for a few decades to a few centuries, and then it is quietly accepted because the people who have the matches are using it by then. But every once in a while you get these times where nearly every advance is accepted. We're living in one at the moment (although it may soon pass.)
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http://www.paleofuture.com/
Collection of imaginings of the future decade by decade starting in the 19th century.
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I think the "Sheen" isn't as obvious because, well, at the risk of being slapped for saying so... the "Sheen" has become a market issue. Everything is being sold as The Wave Of The Furute. Every single Apple product is given a furutistic name with the i- suffix, and made of smooth white or black casing with touchscreens. Everything is wireless. Everything is supposed to be so neat and futuristic that nothing stands out. If it's all got a sheen, then after a while you... just stop noticing it's there.
And as far as looking for that "Quantum Leap Forward", well, I think that's just part of the sheen effect you're looking for. Everything claims to be revolutionary new technology, but realistically, that almost never works. I think the best example is the SmartCard (to give it one of the many names it's had). Y'know, the card that functions as an ID toshow who you are, a keycard to enter locked doors, mini-credit card to use public transport or whatever... I can think of half a dozen times that tried to get off the ground, and how it was guaranteed we'd all be using them soon! And they never did.
People genuinely don't like bold, new, out-of-nowhere technologies. We like evolutionary steps from one existing thing to the next. All the proof you need is in every single Brand New Idea that was dripping with sheen, and which failed dismally.
Which is why I think a QC movie would work so well. AnthroPCs are just the natural evolution of an iPhone and one of those little robot dog things. And you know they're coated with a thick, greasy layer of sheen.
Well, a thick greasy layer of... something.
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Lets hope it's not this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1253)...
Don't mind me, though. I like living in the future, I really do. Sometimes I have the same Gee Whiz moments Raoullefere speaks of, and sometimes I really do see the sheen again.
I think the holiday just has me down. Another summer gone, and all the projects I had lined up (and have had lined up for several years) are still un-begun.
Oh, and I totalled my car Friday. Hit a bear. I now have no way to get to work.
Fucker ran off into the woods, too. Didn't even have the decency to be seriously injured...
Bleah.
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A bear? Christ almighty.
Carl, I'm beginning to think whoever's out to get me is after you, too. And it seems to want you more. Much more.
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On the plus side you can now introduce yourself as a Bear Fighter. And since it ran, that's a forfeit, so you win.
You are a VICTORIOUS Bear Fighter.
Screw the future, I want to go back to a time when that was all the cred you needed to be, freaking, Barbarian King.
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actually i'd say leaving showed fairly good grace on his part. if i was a bear, i'd be pissed at the small meat creature that just hit me with the now immobile vehicle.
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Have you ever seen a bear run?
Grace has very little to do with it.
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Well he probably would have been more graceful if you hadn't just hit him with your damn car!
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DAMN YOU CARL
(http://rlv.zcache.com/cute_ballerina_bear_photosculpture-p153815714924943639qdjh_400.jpg)
MY CAREER IS OVER
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Well he probably would have been more graceful if you hadn't just hit him with your damn car!
He ran out in front of me first. Across two (empty) lanes. I had plenty of time to watch the ungainly gate and contemplate what was about to happen. I even hit the brakes. hard. Or it would've been a lot worse (it wasn't quite airbag force). He (she? I didn't get the chance to ask...) got knocked down, tumbled over a few times, got up, shook off, and kept right on running.
Not even a dirty look or acknowledgement. No scream, no growl, nothing. I was a piece of furniture he bumped into.
A friend said he must've been running from something else. I'm glad whatever scared a full grown (~400 lb) black bear didn't follow it out onto the road...
And no, it's not bear season here yet. That starts in November.
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He was probably running from a guy holding a UBMEOD.
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Normal people (like, say, me) run into normal animals (like, say, deer) with their cars.
Always gotta be someone who one-ups you.
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It ain't one-upmanship. I've been unemployed all summer, and now I need a car...
Anyone in central PA with a beater that they'd like to be rid of?
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I'm in Australia, so I can't help with the car. But, may I suggest that you simply solve this problem by riding the bear? It's clearly tougher than your car was, so it's a superior choice. And since you've already bested it in combat, it has to do what you say.
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While that idea has a certain appeal, and I'm sure it would impress the hell out of my students, winter's coming on soon. Waking the bear out of hibernation just to get to work would be damn near impossible.
And the mileage isn't that great. They eat a lot...
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Not to mention stink to high heaven. Your students might respect you, but they'd also make great efforts to remain upwind.
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Yes, let's all go upwind of the hungry bear. That cannot end badly!
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These are students I'm talking about. They do this sort of thing all the time. Figuratively speaking, of course.
Student: "Ah, no, I don't have my portfolio…I kind of forgot…I was really busy with the float this weekend…well, yeah, you did assign that three weeks ago, but time kind of slips away, you know?" Pauses. "By the way, is there any kind of extra credit work I could do? My grade's kind of low in here."
Teacher: "Rouwrrr!" as he lunges…
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These are students I'm talking about. They do this sort of thing all the time. Figuratively speaking, of course.
When I was in college, I loved students like that. When curve-grading is in force, Gore Vidal's famous remark becomes relevant:
"It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail."
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/ZAL77449/bear_cavalry.jpg)
Carl-E racing for the last parking space in the faculty car-park. Edit: Fixed broken image link.
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What a remarkable likeness...
:lol:
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There was a fake movie poster for a QC movie, but I can't find it.
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I think it was the Scott Pilgrim-esque one over on Jeph's Tumblr account.
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There was a really horrible one with Christina Ricci (I think) in it a while back. I mean, it was technically pretty well done, but all the casting choices were horrible.
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Yeah well, as Michael Garibaldi once said to Stephen Franklin, the future shoulda come labeled 'Some Assembly Required'
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However, to reverese the trend Akima has brought up aout using non-Asian actors to play clearly Asian characters we need to cast Akima in the role of Faye.
Carl - you can take on Marten and Raoul, you've got Steve
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I started to object, then realized Steve is probably one of the most fun roles to play in the entire cast. So send me a script!
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Meh.
Another terminally nice role.
So Riever, saving Pintsize for yourself?
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I can't think of indie busty girl with glasses without immediately going for Thora Birch. So I guess she'd be my Faye..
I like the idea of Nora Zehetner for Dora, but she's pretty tiny so that'd be a change. Carey Mulligan would be cool too.
For some reason I like Alona Tal or Angela Bettis as Hanners. The former is used to prettier roles but I like her, worse comes to worse Alona is Penelope.
Emile Hirsch as Steve.
I have no idea for Sven.
And maybe Joesph Gordon-Levitt for Marten. Mayyybe.
Storyline wouldn't need to be too farfetched, maybe a roadtrip??
Someone said first 600 comics and I think that works, just sub Tai for old boss and Penelope for Sara.
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Meh.
Another terminally nice role.
So Riever, saving Pintsize for yourself?
Nah, I want to be the key grip.
How hard can it be to hold onto the keys?
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If your the Key grip can I be the Best Boy?
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Only if you say it with the appropriate inflection in your voice.
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Always!
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Daniel Radcliff as Marten
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NO.
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Besikdes, we're casting Carl-E as Marten. Haven't you been following the thread?
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Does that mean raoullefere is going to play Steve?
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Could I have a
bit-part cameo as the waitress in Marten & Dora's first sort-of-date (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=221)?
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Does that mean raoullefere is going to play Steve?
It would seem to. I probably need to start working out more.
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Could I have a bit-part cameo as the waitress in Marten & Dora's first sort-of-date (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=221)?
The studio was talking about a re-write where Chinese Delivery Boy was changed to a female character. There was talk of a fight scene between her and Pizza Girl.
You *do* know how to use a Katana, right?
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You *do* know how to use a Katana, right?
A katana. Right. You'll keep... :evil:
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Could I have a bit-part cameo as the waitress in Marten & Dora's first sort-of-date (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=221)?
Akima, I'm disappointed. I was hoping you'd go for Faye.
And a Chinese broadsward would be more appropriate for you anyways. Or we can just give you a cricket bat (please tell me the Aussies play cricket, not baseball...)
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I thought Aussies played
organized mayhem strangely-ruled football. Does make Akima seem a natural for Faye.
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I believe that is another sport played there - but to ensure that we get max participation - there will be beer.
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Akima, I'm disappointed. I was hoping you'd go for Faye.
I'd need an awful lot of padding, or the boob and hip joke would fall flat. :-D As for blades, the jian is the Gentleman Of Weapons of course, but a pair of Butterfly Swords might be more suitable in a modern urban environment. Perhaps one in each boot like the hero of "Swordsman In Double Flag Town".
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Does that mean raoullefere is going to play Steve?
It would seem to. I probably need to start working out more.
And apparently, I'm going to have to lose a few more pounds.
And get some hair.
Anybody know Shatner's dealer?
With Akima sporting blades, this is turning into a Scott Pilgrim redux.
Reiver, if it weren't for the beer...
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Everybody played by Johnny Depp
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So it would be like that scene in the last "Pirates" movie, only in a coffee house...
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Carl, was that ale, lager, porter, stout or a barley wine?
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Lets start with a lager. Whachya got?
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Dude, if you hate your job so much, why don't you just quit?
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Didn't you hear? Reiver brought beer...
Besides, it's not a job...
it's art!
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We'll start with Lou's Lug-Tread, a lagered ale from the area - excellent taste, nice body, and moderate hoppyness.
Afterwards we'll move to Upper Canada Dark Ale.
When it's time for the stouts I was thinking Rogue's Chocolate Stout
For the Barley wines we'll need to debate between 2 of la belle province's finest: Trois Pistole or Maudite
After that, we'll be looped enough to think we can act.
Two or three after that and our spouses will be posting bail (hopefully).
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GUINNISS
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Nothing wrong with Guiness, but I prefer Rogue or Wellington County's Imperial Stout
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Two or three after that and our spouses will be posting bail (hopefully).
'sallright. I play poker with a bail bondsman.
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Excellent - Raoul's hopefully got the script done.
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I what?
At what point does "Raoul, play the part of Steve" translate as "Hey, and by the way, write the script for us, too!"
I think you've already started on that beer. Yesterday.
Or perhaps Canadian English is far more laconic than I ever imagined. Or both.
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Oh c'mon, it's a small indy production, we're all doubling up - Reiver's both the casting director and key grip; Akima's not only doing a walk on, but she's directing (hence the sharp implements - actors are cattle, after all).
Me, I'm not only playing Marten, but I'm also doing sound effects (Punch! Thwack! SCORN!!)
And besides, your writing has an incredibly refined and nuanced air about it.
So just tone it down a little, and you'll do fine!
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Heh heh, scorn!
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And besides, your writing has an incredibly refined and nuanced air about it.
So just tone it down a little, and you'll do fine!
Like I haven't heard that all my life. I'm telling you, I suck at fart jokes.
I'm also telling you that last sentence of mine is incredibly disgusting if read the correct (or incorrect) way.
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Yes. Yes, it is. Either way.
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I what?
At what point does "Raoul, play the part of Steve" translate as "Hey, and by the way, write the script for us, too!"
It was in the subtext.
I think you've already started on that beer. Yesterday.
And if you don't hurry there won't be as much for you.
Or perhaps Canadian English is far more laconic than I ever imagined. Or both.
Yes
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We better start filming before Jeph decides to end the comic at strip 2K.
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We better start filming before Jeph decides to end the comic at strip 2K.
Come on, he won't end QC just because Hannelore dies...would he? :?
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Why did you let Friday's cliffhanger out of the bag?
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Sharon Stone as Dora.
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Hi!
I'm pretty sure nobody has posted this image here yet:
http://img2.imagebanana.com/img/u0rez15k/QuestionableContent.jpg
Anyway... I've found this picture some days ago when googleing for Jeph's Tumblr blog. It's simply... amazing. (Even though I think that some of the characters could use a different actor... Raven and Faye in particular)
What do you think about it? :)
edit: Hu, it worked when I clicked it in the "Preview-Mode"... anyway, I reuploaded it, I hope that's alright.
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Doesn't work, proprietary images. (try it yourself - it's pretty funny!)
However, pasting the link into your browser works fine.
http://www.shokxonestudios.com/independent/images/full/QuestionableContent.jpg
Easier to copy for ya...
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I got a kick and a half out of his 'NO HOTLINKING' image..
The amusement factor I derive from seeing someone complain about stealing using a stolen image is, perhaps, slightly excessive.
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Oh no, not excessive at all!
Especially since the "save image as..." option isn't even disabled!
If they won't share, I will...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/5225747141_219504bb9d_b.jpg)
P.S. - Jack Black as pintsize is inspired!
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Old poster is old, and was discussed here at length years ago.
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Hey, it was my first time seeing it.
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Sorry, I was feeling a bit cranky yesterday...
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Hey, it was my first time seeing it.
Mine too. It's quite clever.
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Thank you for posting that Carl, this is the first time I've seen it and it's very well done.
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(doubletake)
Hey! The designer of that poster is from MILWAUKEE!
...and Larry the Cable Guy in the cast? (Jimbo, obviously.)
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Too... meaty for Jimbo. Jeff Foxworthy would look better ('stache and all), but he's getting a little too old for it.
Hollywood would use a redneck country singer, but I'm not up on them at the moment.
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Probably Toby Keith. Though I think LTCG could play Jimbo straight up.
I'm still trying to figure out Sela Ward... Wait a minute - that's Marten's MOM?
EDIT: Wow. Okay. Uhm... well, let's see if I have this right:
Ian Somerhalder .......... Marten Reed
Christina Ricci .......... Faye Whitaker
Keira Knightley .......... Dora Bianchi
Ryan Reynolds ............ Steve
Rachel Leigh Cook ........ Raven Pritchard
Jack Black ............... (voice of) Pintsize
Larry The Cable Guy ...... Jimbo
Sela Ward ................ Veronica Vance-Reed
Yeah, that would work.
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Believe it or not, I actually wrote a script. However, given the reactions to writing about characters, I think I'll keep it to myself.
You wouldn't have gotten it anyway. I'm the Floyd Pepper of scriptwriters.
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm232/sk8centilli/sk8scrap/SgtFloydPepper.png)
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That's alright.
I'm Zoot when it comes to creative writing.
"uhh... ummm..."
"Oh, man, Zoot slipped a groove again!"
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The snorgytees girl (you know which one) for Faye.
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[AnimalVoice] Han-a- lore! Han-a- lore! Han-a-lore! [/AnimakVoice]
Thank you for your time.
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Can I be Hannelore? :< We may have to wait til I turn 21 unless you wanna use juice instead of alcohol.
Also, I'd seriously pay to see the movie. :D
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Well, maybe. Depends how adorably neurotic you are I guess?
At this point I think it's either you or Evanna Lynch.
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Neurotic/anorexic. She doesn't eat much, because there's not much food that she trusts. Jeph had a pic of a "real life" Hanners at one point on Twitter - the girl was downright boney.
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I think we have our Faye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDo8uETC7K8
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Yup
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Needs more ambiguous accent.
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She's close, perky, fun, but not plump enough, imho.
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I guess it depends on when she was drawn, but she's definitely only "Hollywood Pudgy" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodPudgy)
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Raven, maybe?
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No, Raven's set up pretty much for Christina Ricci.
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No, Raven's set up pretty much for Christina Ricci.
Well, if you say so. Going by faces, I think Ashley comes closer to the look I'd think of for Raven (and perhaps personality too), but that's just a personal opinion, naturally.
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I personally think QC would be better suited for a television series than it would a movie, given its more episodic content.
That said, I could definitely see Zooey Daschenal as Raven. She's got that ditsy/cheerful persona down pat. She'd have to have a bit better rack, though. :mrgreen:
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Live Action or Animated?
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I remember Jeph saying something about not having any desire to do an animated series (unless adult swim offered him A LOT of money, lol), so he would probably feel the same way about a movie. I like the idea of both, but I will say I do think that QC is best in it's current medium.
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I think about a QC tv show every time I read it, but I imagine that even Adult Swim would make some aspects of it toned down.
That said, I wonder about a direct to DVD series, or maybe even a Netflix series. That way, you could release it as unrated edition and not have to worry to much. The creator of Family Guy did that with some of the more racy stuff Fox wouldn't show.
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Most of the people would be the real life people who I know that represent the characters in the story.
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I have thought about this...
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everyone played by Morgan Freeman
You are not the only one that thinks this is a good idea...
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/572928960_kYXLp-L.jpg)
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To be honest, I think someone could make a movie version of QC and make it work. Just hard work and dedication and apparently a hellava good casting director. Besides, not everyone is gonna be satisfied with how a movie turns out if someone did make a movie. I wonder if it has actually crossed someones mind to actually go for it. Has anyone found anything like actually decent on youtube. I know people try to make and post that kinda stuff all the time. And what would a poster for it look like? Hm? I can't really see anyone famous playing the gang. I feel like they would be to hokey I think.
If someone were actually making a movie of it what would you guys think?
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It could work, especially if it's a condensation of the first 1,500 strips into a good 70-minute movie.
But Jeph would have to have last word on the dialogue.
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I think I actually perused youtube and saw something. Some people have a trailer and a teaser up. I think it looks good thus far. But who knows until we see the actual product you know. :laugh:
Glad some independent filmmakers finally have the balls to make something though.
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Links, or it didn't happen!
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The YouTube clips were probably ones mentioned earlier in this thread. Basically it was an acting out the dialogue of the first 10 or so strips (sans Pintsize).
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I am going to hate myself for this one. But I think Kelly Osborne has the features to be a good Faye. And she has a fowl mouth on her so no worries about delivering the cutting lines. Slap a pair of nerdy black rimmed glasses and a obscure indie band tee shirt on her and there you go.
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I highly doubt a QC movie would have every character played by a well-known actor or actress. It would be low budget due to QC's relatively small following, and therefore filled with mostly unknown actors/actresses. Possibly some B-movie people in there.
Also, I'm not sure what the movie would be about. The majority of movies needs some life-altering changes to keep people interested, whereas QC just kinda lumps along with the only drama being some relationship stuff, but not in a fun romantic comedy sort of way like every Hollywood film, nor a romantic indie like Garden State or Juno. Doesn't come close to a romantic drama. It'd probably be better suited in the format it's in now, which adapts to a long running TV show.
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Well it could focus around COD and how the staff join and they redecorate the place with Dora's tips. Then a new business partnership with TSB, throw in Dora and Marten's relationship breakdown. Involve some other plot lines key to the supporting characters and you could pull together a strong plot arch following the journey of friendships and relationships of the characters involved. If it were a low budget production focusing on COD would allow for much of the scenes to take place there. Meaning you can apply your set design budget to doing that space well and maximize your use of lighting ques to change time for when the scene's take place.
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The movie would have to hit on a couple of key themes:
- Marten meets Faye
- Establish Dora (and Raven) and the Coffee of Doom
- The Talk; Enter Hannelore
- Dora goes after Marten
- Faye's issues & "fling" with Sven
- Enter Marigold; Angus & Faye's "relationship" development
- Angus and Faye get together, Marten and Dora break up
You might be able to get it all in in under 90 minutes, but you'd have to cut some things out.
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Like Pintsize...
Really, tossing the anthroPC's would be the most efficient way to make a reasonable movie out of it. Notice how none of jwhouk's key plot points have anything to do with them.
AnthroPC's would have a natural "kid appeal" if they were included in the movie, but then you'd have to make them "kid safe", and dammit, you lose all the funny. So it's probabl better without them at all.
Besides, if they get included, then the movie will become All About Them. It'll be the only thing the media marketing people will latch on to. Then you lose the real story in the movie - people who go to see the APC's will go, "What's all this relationship crap?"
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Thanks Andy147. What did you think of them? I thought the biggest problem was the audio primarily in the trailer. I hope they fix it and the teaser, it looked good. I think that for some people just starting out it wasn't crap. Plus I thought the music fit and was very funny.
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The movie would have to hit on a couple of key themes:
- Marten meets Faye
- Establish Dora (and Raven) and the Coffee of Doom
- The Talk; Enter Hannelore
- Dora goes after Marten
- Faye's issues & "fling" with Sven
- Enter Marigold; Angus & Faye's "relationship" development
- Angus and Faye get together, Marten and Dora break up
You might be able to get it all in in under 90 minutes, but you'd have to cut some things out.
You might be able to do all of that in 90 minutes, but it wouldn't make for a very good movie. Imagine watching that as someone who didn't know QC at all: the plot moves at break neck speed through all of these major life changes for these characters. You don't have an opportunity to really get to know or care about any of them before the next thing happens and someone new shows up. In other words, it would be the exact opposite of QC, which gives us a fair amount of intimate detail about characters who we come to care about because we know them so well, even if not much happens regularly in the comic.
Movies are good for telling discreet stories, not so much for long epics. Those teaser trailers make it look like whoever's doing that maybe as the right idea: pick one plot arch and do that. It looks like they're doing the events leading up to the talk through the time Marten and Dora start dating. This is a nice compact little story with a beginning, a middle, and an end.
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the Hollywood golden child- the Trilogy.*
Then we could get a whole buttload of QC on screen :-D
(*I don't think anyone has mentioned it....I skimmed the thread, please don't shoot if I'm mistaken :-P)
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Ready...
Aim.....
Oh, no one else mentioned it yet?
Stand down, men.
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But I haven't shot anyone yet today!
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Don't worry, we'll find someone...
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As long as you promise, no prequel trilogy with
better more expensive visuals at the expense of any pretense of trying to write a story ...
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Marten Reed - the adolescent years
Now there's blockbuster material!
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Did anyone see this?
trailer 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4ItZE6wik
(I think not, since there are no comments around the video's posting dates :roll:)
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Ten posts up, two days ago, Andy147 posted it.
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Ten posts up, two days ago, Andy147 posted it.
dammit. sorry folks.
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I was thinking......an indie version of American Pie? :-P
minus all those shitty releases with hardly anyone from the original cast.... :roll:
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Ideally, you could do a storyline around the first 600 strips or so, but the problem is that there's no good "pause" point between 1 and 660.
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And a film which ends with Marten and Dora getting together (unless it's part 1 of a trilogy, or some such) would seem bizarre to any QC fans, wouldn't it? It'd be like ending the film of Gone With The Wind with Rhett and Scarlett happily married.
That's how the sequel ended.
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I'm sure QC fans wouldn't be the only demographic. The question would be whether or not they were the primary demographic. Comic book movies come to mind when I think about this, 'cause many of them were perfectly good movies that grossed well, but comic book fans hated them (of course they went and saw them anyway, as I'm sure most of us would for a QC movie, even if it got terrible reviews by other QC lovers). A movie ending with Marten and Dora together would probably be just fine, though. To the fans of the comic, it would just be "part one" so to speak, even if there were no sequels. To people who had never heard of the comic, it would be a good happy ending.
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Questionable Content (2011) Teaser Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWYlv5A8QQ=related) and Questionable Content - Trailer 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4ItZE6wik&feature=watch_response) look like what Hanner3! was referring to.
So glad I didn't have to post them myself. That could have been awkward.
Marten Reed - the adolescent years
Now there's blockbuster material!
That could be interested. So much angst though...
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A movie ending with Marten and Dora together would probably be just fine, though. To the fans of the comic, it would just be "part one" so to speak, even if there were no sequels. To people who had never heard of the comic, it would be a good happy ending.
Suddenly, all I can think of is Some Kind of Wonderful.
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And a film which ends with Marten and Dora getting together (unless it's part 1 of a trilogy, or some such) would seem bizarre to any QC fans, wouldn't it? It'd be like ending the film of Gone With The Wind with Rhett and Scarlett happily married.
That's how the sequel ended.
What sequel?
Yes I know about that fan-fiction that got published back in the 1990's where Scarlett moves to Ireland and becomes a witch or something. In no way shape or form do I consider that canon.
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What sequel?
Yes I know about that fan-fiction that got published back in the 1990's where Scarlett moves to Ireland and becomes a witch or something. In no way shape or form do I consider that canon.
And even then, he pretty much leaves her for dead pregnant with his child. Not really a happy ending to that relationship...
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If it is done as an animated film, I want Peter Cullen to voice Jimbo
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And a film which ends with Marten and Dora getting together (unless it's part 1 of a trilogy, or some such) would seem bizarre to any QC fans, wouldn't it? It'd be like ending the film of Gone With The Wind with Rhett and Scarlett happily married.
That's how the sequel ended.
What sequel?
This vaguely reminded me of something (http://xkcd.com/566/).
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If it simply ended with Marten and Dora. I would be happy. I was really upset when they broke up in the comic. I just hope it ends well.
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If it simply ended with Marten and Dora. I would be happy. I was really upset when they broke up in the comic. I just hope it ends well.
When I first read the comic I was expecting the Marten/Hannelore set up to be explored. I mean, it would have lended itself to some REALLY awkward situations, whether or not they actually ended up together.
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I may be repeating myself, but here goes:
You couldn't do an EXACT, linear progression of the strips to produce a good movie script. However, there are a lot of individual snippets of dialogue from actual strips that you could use to move the story along - and enough that you could come up with a coherent strip.
The first part of a QC movie would have to include "When Marten Met Faye" (essentially the first few hundred strips or so). This would cover the introduction of most of the main characters, except for Raven - but she could be included as the lead-in to "The Talk".
The biggest snag after "The Talk" is that we're introduced to Hannelore immediately afterwards, and Faye ends up going home to Savannah while Marten and Dora make teh kisses - but Marty ends up getting fired from his workplace.
Of course, a way that this could all be "tied together" is a revelation that Faye is relating all this to Dr. Corrine. The movie would end with Faye heading back to work - and everything is basically all right (for now, anyways).
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I may be repeating myself, but here goes:
You couldn't do an EXACT, linear progression of the strips to produce a good movie script. However, there are a lot of individual snippets of dialogue from actual strips that you could use to move the story along - and enough that you could come up with a coherent strip.
The first part of a QC movie would have to include "When Marten Met Faye" (essentially the first few hundred strips or so). This would cover the introduction of most of the main characters, except for Raven - but she could be included as the lead-in to "The Talk".
The biggest snag after "The Talk" is that we're introduced to Hannelore immediately afterwards, and Faye ends up going home to Savannah while Marten and Dora make teh kisses - but Marty ends up getting fired from his workplace.
Of course, a way that this could all be "tied together" is a revelation that Faye is relating all this to Dr. Corrine. The movie would end with Faye heading back to work - and everything is basically all right (for now, anyways).
Would it honestly have to start with "When Marten Met Faye"? In many ways that's just retreading the "When X meets Y" of almost any movie of the genre. And also, audiences don't want nor need the story to progress like "And then Marten met Dora, and then Marten met Hannelore, and then Faye met Dr Corrine". Slice of Life comics work because you can end each one with a joke. If you string them together, and expect a cohesive narrative from beginning to end, you're not going to be in for a good time.
All in all, I look at it like the Harry Potter franchise. Sure, some people would have been fascinated seeing all the things described in the first book about what Harry did between the prologue and Chapter 1, but that's not where the story arc began and it would feel like a pointless montage. In a different vain, a lot of people were upset the S.P.E.W. storyline was left out. Most of the non-fanboy public never batted an eyelash, and would have found it completely pointless. A QC TV show could start at the very beginning, but a QC movie would be foolish to.
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I would agree. The idea that, if you're going to make a movie, you need to include all of the major plot points form the beginning of the comic to the present day is going to leave you with a long, incoherent movie. Most frustrating of all, since the comic is ongoing, and Jeph doesn't really break the story at any point, the film would likely just end at some point without any real resolution.
I also think it's worth noting that QC as a specific thing focuses on little moments of daily life. It's not really about a bunch of big stuff happening all at once. Cramming everything into one movie would make for much more of an "everything happens all at once" feel.
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I would agree. The idea that, if you're going to make a movie, you need to include all of the major plot points form the beginning of the comic to the present day is going to leave you with a long, incoherent movie. Most frustrating of all, since the comic is ongoing, and Jeph doesn't really break the story at any point, the film would likely just end at some point without any real resolution.
I also think it's worth noting that QC as a specific thing focuses on little moments of daily life. It's not really about a bunch of big stuff happening all at once. Cramming everything into one movie would make for much more of an "everything happens all at once" feel.
Wouldn't it depend on how it was done? The great thing about Jephs comic is the fact that there is a plot through out the entire thing but there is a solid plot behind even the smallest of moments. He is able to illustrate life in it's most subtle ways.
I think if you're a pretty damn good film maker you could make that happen. Like I think in one of the clips above I saw Hanners or someone in a coat in the background at the coffee shop. If it is Hanners, the director clearly wanted to illustrate that she had indeed been stalking Marten. Very much like the bits of everyones stories in the comics they are all interconnected.
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Like I think in one of the clips above I saw Hanners or someone in a coat in the background at the coffee shop.
I think you're reading WAAAAAAY too deep into it.
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Like I think in one of the clips above I saw Hanners or someone in a coat in the background at the coffee shop.
I think you're reading WAAAAAAY too deep into it.
I dunno ... I think that's an interesting bit of filmmaking, if that's what the filmmaker intended. And if it's just someone in a parka, well, it's just someone in a parka. And absent any resolution of the question in the finished film ... it's the sort of question that occupies classroom and other academic discussions of published works all the time.
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I liked most of the casting in the trailer for the Pyromaniac Studios QC movie, but I thought their Hanners seemed too normal.
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I liked most of the casting in the trailer for the Pyromaniac Studios QC movie, but I thought their Hanners seemed too normal.
Maybe a bit. I wish she was a bit more twitchy.
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None of the Youtube Fayes really rang my Faye bell. To me the Pugnacious Peach needs to be a little larger than life.
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QFT.
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None of the Youtube Fayes really rang my Faye bell. To me the Pugnacious Peach needs to be a little larger than life.
I don't think that we know that much about this Faye. The trailer was more focused on Hanners and Marten. So it's really hard to make that assumption when we haven't even seen her act yet. The only little bit we see of Faye seems to be in the teaser and she was talking about something deep it seemed. We'll just have to see I guess what she has ya know, maybe she isn't a good Faye, but like I said we don't really see any proof as to whether she can act or not and be 'larger then life'.
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@akronnick
Was that an ironic QFT, as in you don't support any of the comments made so far? I only ask because your "quote for truth" didn't actually quote anything.
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Oh.. Right... Forgot to quote.... oops.
Actually, I was quoting for truth the comment immediately above mine, Cold's comment that Faye should be larger than life.
But since the comment was right there, I didn't quote because, you know, you don't do that, but since......
So, um, yeah. My bad.
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Also, I'm not sure what the movie would be about. The majority of movies needs some life-altering changes to keep people interested,
Correction: Hollywood insists that a/the main character(s) learn something from their experience. I remember listening to an interview with someone who worked in the movie industry[1] talking about the difference between selling an idea to the American market and the British market.[2]
[1] I can't remember if it was a director, writer and/or producer.
[2] I'm not sure about this part of the interview but I think the reason why the American film industry insists on that is to show the films moral compass. However, that part of the interview I'm less certain of so I might be wrong.
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Hollywood films needing a moral compass are the result of the Hays Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code) that began in the 1930's as an attempt to avoid government censorship.
After two generations of governing film production, it left one hell of a mark...
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Hollywood films needing a moral compass are the result of the Hays Code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code) that began in the 1930's as an attempt to avoid government censorship.
After two generations of governing film production, it left one hell of a mark...
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
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After two generations of governing film production, it left one hell of a mark...
Not least, in its explicit racism, accustoming America, and through Hollywood much of the world, to monochrome casting (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MonochromeCasting). Because, you know, you need a moral compass to steer clear of multi-ethnic casting. More like an immoral compass! :x
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Akima, you might find this interesting:
http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/oct/15/invasion-of-the-mind-snatchers/ (http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/oct/15/invasion-of-the-mind-snatchers/)
here is the transcript:
http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/oct/15/invasion-of-the-mind-snatchers/transcript/ (http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/oct/15/invasion-of-the-mind-snatchers/transcript/)
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Akima, you might find this interesting:
What I find interesting is that these articles complacently refer to marginalisation of women and ethnic minorities on TV only in the past tense, as if it didn't persist to this day. But what can be expected from someone capable of uttering this drivel: "And most people who have studied the matter will tell you that The Feminine Mystique was, in fact, the start of the women’s movement." Yeah, that's right, he thinks there was no women's movement before 1963... Apparently First Wave Feminism never penetrated his consciousness, and I strongly suspect he's never actually spoken to anyone who has studied the history of the women's movement.
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Sorry about that, I should have caught the errors.
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The QC movie, if literally adapted from the comic, would feature an almost all-white cast, exclusively so in the case of the major characters, and only one woman in a professional job, who rarely appears. The male characters are relatively normal, but three of the women are in therapy. The African-American character works a low-paying service job and creepily pursues one of the white wimmen.
In reality Jeph is an enlightened and humane person who is not working to keep minorities down, but it would be all too easy to take offense at the QC cast.
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only one woman in a professional job, who rarely appears.
Granting the "rarely appears" part, I count at least three: Hanners' mother, Dr. Corine (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1089), and Sven's lawyer (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1162). How many men in QC work "professional jobs"? And how often do they appear? Jeph just isn't interested in writing about lawyers, doctors etc.
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Mm. I'd forgotten about Harriet. I guess being an evil corporate overlord is a profession.
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At the very least, it's a full time job with benefits!
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The QC movie, if literally adapted from the comic, would feature an almost all-white cast, exclusively so in the case of the major characters, and only one woman in a professional job, who rarely appears. The male characters are relatively normal, but three of the women are in therapy. The African-American character works a low-paying service job and creepily pursues one of the white wimmen.
In reality Jeph is an enlightened and humane person who is not working to keep minorities down, but it would be all too easy to take offense at the QC cast.
Most movies have a pretty much all-white cast. Thats nothing new. The successful Harry Potter series had all its main characters as white, but no one complained. Or maybe they did, but not loud enough for me to notice.
Considering the majority of the QC cast work low paying service jobs, I don't think other cultures would be too offended about being left out anyways.
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To me, it's less important what job the character holds than the character's function in (and therefore importance to) the story. The female characters drive the plot and character development in QC, folks. They're the important ones.
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True, dat. Marten is mainly a lynchpin, holding the social group in our sight, providing a connection between the other characters. Steve is comic relief, always has been, and I don't see that changing. Same for Jimbo. Sven seems to be the closest we get to a plot-mover, as a male character who's gone through some development. Wil and Angus tie for a close second in my book, but Wil has pretty much disappeared since he and Penelope went into stable orbit. Any other males are walk-ons, but I think Dale has potential, if Jeph would pursue it.
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I vote for puppets.
Preferably sock puppets, but I suppose that paper bags with googly eyes will do if budget constraints are tight.
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That has possibilities:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1407
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Most movies have a pretty much all-white cast.
You mean most American and other Western-made ones do. The Harry Potter movies are cast to reflect the original books, though the author had to make it a condition of agreeing to the movie adaption even to ensure that British white people were cast to play British characters, so its not surprising that non-white actors have so much trouble getting cast in movies adapted from books and other works with non-white characters, or based even on real events in which non-white people actually participated.
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I vote for puppets.
Gerry Anderson's old production company salutes you.
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Michael Cera as Marten, and Pintsize voiced by Bob... Saget????
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So that's how Saget got into the WCT forum.
And I thought he was simply ubiquitous.
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1. Jeph's comic comments for Number 2025: Questionable Content: LA (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2025) - "Starring William H. Macy as Marten and Beyonce as Faye."
2. As I said in WCDT 2021-2025, I actually could see Beyonce as Faye Whitaker as an interesting "outside the box" casting choice. William H. Macy would make a better Henry Reed over Marten Reed, but definitely should be included in a series for which "indie" themes are important.
3. I could also see/hear Bob Saget as Pintsize, his voice tone and comedy experience would be good in the role.
4. An animated movie (or episode series) would be much better because voice-acting opens up a wider range of actors who need not be physically similar to the character. Kevin Conroy as DCAU Batman, Mark Hamill as DCAU Joker, and Clancy Brown as DCAU Lex Luthor being the best examples.
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Frankly I don't have any real preferences for either Marten or Pintsize in a live actoin QC, but you just know Cera is going to be one of the first people to come to mind to the producers etc. as Marten. And Saget as Pintsize would be typical Hollywood thinking it's clever casting.
An animated QC? Billy West, John DiMaggio, Grey DeLisle, Jennifer Hale, Cree Summer, and Tara Strong would all show up in it because they're all pretty ubiquitous in US voiced animated productions. It would probably be a tossup over whether Hale and DeLiisle would play Faye and Dora, or vice versa, although they might decide Strong should do a variation of her Raven voice from Teen Titans for Faye. Maybe Cree Summer as Tai or Raven. I can imagine Niicole Sullivan in some role.
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Thinking about it a bit more if someone did a QC film they'd probably just cherrypick various elements from the series and come up with an original script. Part of it would probably revolve around Hannelore having supposedly humourous freakouts as a result of Pintsize doing something gross to her or around her. They'd probably go with a typical Hollywood love triangle story, with on-screen Dora being an annoying mix of original Dora and Raven, or in some other way being made annoying to the viewer so they'd root for the "right" girl, Faye. If they were really lazy they'd do a makeover bit with Faye, where she loses her glasses, piles on the makeup, and starts wearing overtly sexy clothes just in time to "save" Marten from the clutches of Dora. Someone like Christopher Walken or Michael Keaton would appear as the gruff middle aged guy who gives Marten advice on how to run his life, most of which would just cause problems until the one bit that helps him realise he really wants Faye. And there would be the inevitable cameo appearance from whatever indie band du jour they could scare up, playing whatever tune they contributed to the pop song soundtrack.
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The above post is why I remain secure in the knowledge that a QC Major Motion Picture is never gonna happen.
If it did, it would be a tragedy.
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Agreed (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExecutiveMeddling).
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...Someone like Christopher Walken or Michael Keaton would appear as the gruff middle aged guy who gives Marten advice on how to run his life, most of which would just cause problems until the one bit that helps him realise he really wants Faye.
That's what they'd use Jimbo for. I can just see Christopher Walken or Michael Keaton in the trucker hat with the sleazy seventies 'stache...
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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Yeah. It would probably be Keaton these days, as Walken might be a bit too expensive, and Keaton's career has fallen enough that he played second fiddle in a film to Lindsey Lohan. So playing second fiddle to whatever up and coming actors they cast, and a CGI robot that does poop jokes, wouldn't be a stretch.
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Maybe we could start with a MV of one of Deathmole's songs
Then a film surrounding the lives of the band members of this fictional band...
But then the material we could work with would then be very few. There's next to nothing we could garner from Amir's life- that could be explored and expanded upon...
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Carl Reiner stars in "This is Deathmole."
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I think this argument about a full-length movie or a TV series being the better format is missing a trick. We have a meandering, open-ended, episodic plot line about a bunch of quirky misfits, and (presumably) a fairly low budget, so the solution seems obvious.
Do it as a web series, just like The Guild (http://watchtheguild.com/).
Weekly 5-10 minute episodes where short scenes with punchlines work well, against a background of coffee, indie music and angst instead of gaming and angst. Run it as long as you need, just like the QC comic. It's perfect. You could even do a Guild crossover episode with Marigold! (especially as Wil Wheaton exists in the QCverse).
With a big enough audience, you could also release a DVD every time you've accumulated enough eps to fill it - preferably with a bit of bonus material as a reward for purchasing (rather like the comics/book collections).
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Completely offtopic, I thought it was fun to see a username of "Binary" next to a post count of 256.
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I was looking at some YouTube videos and came across these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqPTeeu-Qkk&list=UUvEbojVF71YWfBLqzItpwFA&index=104&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqPTeeu-Qkk&list=UUvEbojVF71YWfBLqzItpwFA&index=104&feature=plcp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrjOyEq-RkM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrjOyEq-RkM)
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I've seen the first, a long time ago - but this time, it came over with a strong Scott Pilgrim vibe... The second is new to me.
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A few months ago I saw snippets of the second one worked into a trailer. From what I remember it went from "Faye's tazer" to him reaching his apartment then a "coming soon" title and voiceover.
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Never seen either. They're both pretty good; the acting is a bit wooden, but they're well made, and it's cool to see these strips in live-action.