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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 24 Oct 2010, 04:40
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I was going to make some sort of math joke here, but it's Sunday morning and I'm wiped. Here's your first poll of the week.
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Engineers extinguish a fire. Physicists calculate the exact amount of water they need to extinguish the fire and use as much. Mathematicians prove that they can extinguish the fire and go back to sleep.
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When the singularity hits us a brave mathematician reaches into the Pico Vault and entices the AI to work on an undecidable problem. Poof. 42. We shall be free again.
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Engineers extinguish a fire. Physicists calculate the exact amount of water they need to extinguish the fire and use as much. Mathematicians prove that they can extinguish the fire and call the fire department anyway, since they have no practical experience with such a problem.
FYP :roll:
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Continuing to abuse this as if it were the Oglaf forum...
A woody!
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The first lesson of Applied Engineering: "Your calculations and designs will always be perfect, but *people* will always find a way to screw things up."
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A mathematician sets the rest of the building on fire, thus reducing it to a solved problem.
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No, we set the dollhouse on fire and put it out, since solving a smaller, simpler problem will allow us to see how to solve the larger one.
Then we claim a similar method will work, without actually doing it...
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This is why I don't do math (theoretical anyway) - but do do applied rocket science and survey...
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hmmm....you know I voted for a second date with Angus and Faye, but reading Faye and Hannelore talk about the singularity, maybe this was Jeph's stealthy was of beginning to take QC in a whole new direction. I mean how long does a singularity take to happen?* Maybe the AI just hasn't enslaved/killed them all yet. Maybe starting this week, a conflict could start between the humans and machines and the rest of the comic is about the QC gang trying to fight the machines and keep Northampton from falling into the hands of the AI!!
Ok, I admit, I just want to see everyone dressed like Rambo and fighting with machine guns.
*before you flame me for sounding like a retard, let me clarify: I'm an Engish major. I know next to nothing about this sciencey-speculation. So if none of the above made ANY sense, keep in mind I have trouble with simple math.
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Ok, redrawn Vicki looks disturbingly like Cosette
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But the Milk looks Milker :-D
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Only thing is that Cosette dyed her hair that shade. Vicky was (apparently) a natural brunette.
By the way - comparison time:
New Version: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1781 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1781)
Old Version: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=258 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=258)
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Ok, redrawn Vicki looks disturbingly like Cosette
I thought at first it was Cosette, and this was a reprise joke about Cosette abusing the espresso machine or taking too much time on break.
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Personally, I think zombiemonkey looks much more realistic!
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Only thing is that Cosette dyed her hair that shade. Vicky was (apparently) a natural brunette.
Actually, I think you've got that reversed.
Though, now looking through...just what is Cosette's natural hair color?
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The colour of the screen before Jeph colours it in?
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The return of Zombie Monkey and Bear Monster. This is going to be a good week.
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Before I remembered that this had happened before, I was thinking: "Why the hell is Faye tossing milk into Cosette's face?"
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Always cool to see one redrawn, and to go back to the archives to look at the original.
So I asked myself, why this one in particular?
I'm pretty sure Jeph didn't do this entirely on purpose (ah, l'inconscient), but did you read the text below the next old comic?
Yeah, we love you too, Jeph.
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So how far did you go with the redrawing, Jeph? I mean, the style has evolved pretty organically over the years, so it'd be hard to stop anywhere without it suddenly reverting back to an older style.
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For comic "#258" (or #1781)...
1. I highly approve of these "filler" comics. Not only nostalgic, but also a good long-term investment when enough of them are done. Could you imagine an entire volume of Questionable Content: the Remastered Edition... :roll: ? I know I would buy it, as I have Questionable Content: volume 1.
2. Marten's ex-girlfiend (Vicky) does unsettlingly very much look like Cosette when remastered with current art.
3. Ah original Faye when she was scary and protective of Marten and did not use contractions... I miss that Faye sometimes :-( .
4. I really liked remastered-Faye's expression in Panel #2, even if you had not read #258 before, you can tell just from her facial expression that something is about to go down.
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Ok, I admit, I just want to see everyone dressed like Rambo and fighting with machine guns.
...and as the cast makes their final stand on some godforsaken hilltop, BOOM, a capusle lands, and Hanners' dad comes to the rescue!
That's how it plays out in my head anyways.
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I think it must be Faye's time of the month. Assaulting a customer with dairy products is just uncalled for.
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She did it for Marten!
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Yay comic book !
Now how hard is it to get it ... ?
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She did it for Marten!
Who was, by his own telling of the story, just as much a creep as she was a bitch. But lets not go through that whole argument again.
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She did it for Marten!
Who was, by his own telling of the story, just as much a creep as she was a bitch. But lets not go through that whole argument again.
I'm sorry, but what? How was Marten in any way a creep? By moving across the country for someone he loved at the time? Or by putting effort in trying to spend time with her and getting regected for no given reason? Nothing about Martens story shines him in a negative light.
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Only thing is that Cosette dyed her hair that shade. Vicky was (apparently) a natural brunette.
Actually, I think you've got that reversed.
Though, now looking through...just what is Cosette's natural hair color?
She apparently is a strawberry blonde-ish.
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Yay comic book !
Now how hard is it to get it ... ?
Mine says it's shipping.
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Firstly -
well, i like Fay, but i also like Marigold....
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f381/macloud/tv_burp_fight-film_digital2.jpg)
secondly - FINALLY ive recieved a blasted activation email so i can get on here!
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She did it for Marten!
Who was, by his own telling of the story, just as much a creep as she was a bitch. But lets not go through that whole argument again.
I'm sorry, but what? How was Marten in any way a creep? By moving across the country for someone he loved at the time? Or by putting effort in trying to spend time with her and getting regected for no given reason? Nothing about Martens story shines him in a negative light.
You forgot the part where they broke up before she moved. Marten's evolution from the stereotypical Nice Guy to what he is now in the comic was a very slow process and he's a completely different person today.
Faye's actions in that comic were just as bad, but then, the entire cast back when that happened were a bundle of fucked up people (they're all a bunch of moderately well-adjusted, functional adults now in comparison).
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She did it for Marten!
Who was, by his own telling of the story, just as much a creep as she was a bitch. But lets not go through that whole argument again.
I'm sorry, but what? How was Marten in any way a creep? By moving across the country for someone he loved at the time? Or by putting effort in trying to spend time with her and getting regected for no given reason? Nothing about Martens story shines him in a negative light.
You forgot the part where they broke up before she moved. Marten's evolution from the stereotypical Nice Guy to what he is now in the comic was a very slow process and he's a completely different person today.
Faye's actions in that comic were just as bad, but then, the entire cast back when that happened were a bundle of fucked up people (they're all a bunch of moderately well-adjusted, functional adults now in comparison).
Man, you need to go back and re-read that whole arc.
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You forgot the part where they broke up before she moved.
They didn't; read it again.
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Before I remembered that this had happened before, I was thinking: "Why the hell is Faye tossing milk into Cosette's face?"
Yeah, I was really confused too.
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Vicky's nose is different, but yeah.
A little more anger in Faye's face in that last panel, though it (her face) just seems a bit off-kilter compared to the rest of the strip.
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You forgot the part where they broke up before she moved.
They didn't; read it again.
Panels 3 & 4 of comic #255 agree with me.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=255
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#255 says Vicky wasn't keen on the idea of an LDR.
#257 establishes that the breakup happened after Marten moved.
It also sounds like Vicky did the passive-aggressive "if I ignore him he'll give up and leave" method of breaking up, pretty much a dick move if you ask me.
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There's an "Odin needs a refund on that eye" joke in here somewhere, I'm sure of it. :P
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You forgot the part where they broke up before she moved.
They didn't; read it again.
Panels 3 & 4 of comic #255 agree with me.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=255
I think you need to go back and read these panels again again, Odin
She said the LDR wouldn't work for her. So Marten decided he'd go with her, in order to NOT make it an LDR.
And yet, she decided it wouldn't work. Apparently, it was not the distance that was 'too much for her to handle'.
Which indicates that she should've been more up front in the first place. On top of that, Vicky handled this in the worst way possible. Hence the carton of milk.
And honestly, "the entire cast back when that happened" may have been "a bundle of fucked up people", but at least, they're nice to be with.
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Now now, children, play nice!
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#255 says Vicky wasn't keen on the idea of an LDR.
Exactly. Pretty explicitly hanging out the idea that if Marten was closer, the relationship could continue. She knew he was totally into her, so what did she think a romantic, rather rootless California boy was going to do? And indeed, according to #257 the relationship did continue for a while after Marten moved East.
But lets not go through that whole argument again.
Then why raise it at all?
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Ok, I admit, I just want to see everyone dressed like Rambo and fighting with machine guns.
...and as the cast makes their final stand on some godforsaken hilltop, BOOM, a capusle lands, and Hanners' dad comes to the rescue!
That's how it plays out in my head anyways.
As written by Jerry Pournelle?
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Jeez, the Maya were a whole year off. Been nice knowing you guys.
(At least that's what I assume Sven being that introspective means).
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Has he been sleeping around because he thinks he doesn't deserve anything better?
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Has he been sleeping around because he thinks he doesn't deserve anything better?
I don't think this is it exactly, though it could be part of it. More likely its that through women throwing themselves at him since sexual maturity, he's been led to believe that sex was the most important part of a relationship, and its only recently that he's gotten it into his head that there's a lot more to it than that.
Now that he knows what a dick he's been, NOW he might start sleeping around again because he thinks he doesn't deserve better. He might think about just giving himself up to one-night stands from now on because he thinks that's all he's good for. I really hope Faye and/or Dora convince him to seek actual help or better yet, just try to be a better person.
I don't know why Dr. Corrine isn't interested in the rest of Faye's friends; she could buy a condo in Florida with all the dough she makes off them :-P
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FINALLY ive recieved a blasted activation email so i can get on here!
You poor sod.
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I don't know why Dr. Corrine isn't interested in the rest of Faye's friends; she could buy a condo in Florida with all the dough she makes off them :-P
Probably because she knows all the crazies just feed on each other. It's like making a bed, you need to get one corner of the sheet anchored first. Spread youself across it trying to tuck in all the corners at once, and it's not going to stay put!
Besides, she's already dealing with Hannelore, isn't she? That'll keep her busy enough...
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FINALLY ive recieved a blasted activation email so i can get on here!
You poor sod.
I think the email system on the old server was broken.
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Ok, I admit, I just want to see everyone dressed like Rambo and fighting with machine guns.
...and as the cast makes their final stand on some godforsaken hilltop, BOOM, a capusle lands, and Hanners' dad comes to the rescue!
That's how it plays out in my head anyways.
As written by Jerry Pournelle?
Well, Pournelle stole all his best work from me, but yeah, that's pretty close...
Hannerdad ---> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/1439133743/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books
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I don't know why Dr. Corrine isn't interested in the rest of Faye's friends; she could buy a condo in Florida with all the dough she makes off them :-P
Probably because she knows all the crazies just feed on each other. It's like making a bed, you need to get one corner of the sheet anchored first. Spread youself across it trying to tuck in all the corners at once, and it's not going to stay put!
Besides, she's already dealing with Hannelore, isn't she? That'll keep her busy enough...
Yes. I'm surprised Corrine really needs any other paying clients, and I wonder if Faye gets a lower rate just for being relatively uncomplicated. But even if Corrine was willing to treat more of the gang, it would probably be a bad move to take on Faye's ex. Better to send him to someone who can deal with Sven with no preconceptions rather than trying to reminder herself Faye is likely an 'unreliable narrator.' (Ain't we all, when it comes to personal relationships?)
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Now now, children, play nice!
You're right, that last sentence was unnecessary. I'll fix it.
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Sven's just full of self revelation epiphanies these days.
And now
Svenlore
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Aaaand Sen has hit The Learning Curve (as I was sorta hoping). 's Gonna be a bumpy ride.
Has he been sleeping around because he thinks he doesn't deserve anything better?
Or because he thought that was all there was to it. Right now he thinks that's all he's capable of.
Svenlore
Not gonna happen. But I think Hannelore may be of great therapeutic value to him (even if only because she has a solid "stop moaning about it and start fixing it"-attitude)
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If I may fangirl out for a moment, Faye's expressions today are so excellent. And self-pity doesn't suit Sven, or anyone else for that matter. Self-revelation is a remedy best taken internally.
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So what are we going to see this week?
Angus/Faye II - The Second Date - 13 (21.3%)
Marigold/Dale - The Final Boss Showdown - 11 (18%)
More Singularity Jokes - 4 (6.6%)
Sexy Robot Elohim - 4 (6.6%)
Hanners/Sven II - The REAL Date - 6 (9.8%)
GOOGLE IT! - 9 (14.8%)
Asps and Burgers Explained - 2 (3.3%)
WHO CARES - THE BOOK IS OUT!!!!!! - 12 (19.7%) - The REAL Answer
Total Voters: 61
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For #1782...
1. Faye seems to be in a very good mood, but that is probably due to recent events with Angus, Hannelore, and Marten.
2. While I personally would approve of an "actual relationship" between Hanners and Sven, I do not think it would happen any time soon or even on the moderate horizon (100-ish strips). Far horizon (300-ish strips), down the line maybe... :wink:
3. Or, perhaps cue Marigold coming in the shop at this moment...?
4. I agree with Akima, Faye's expressions were well done for this strip, panel for panel.
4. Panel #5: Aww...poor Sven :cry: . But kudos on the art portraying that, from his downcast facial expression and slumped shoulders, all very expressive.
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What I fear will happen - he will tell her how much he misses her JUST as Angus walks into the shop (again).
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If I may fangirl out for a moment, Faye's expressions today are so excellent. And self-pity doesn't suit Sven, or anyone else for that matter. Self-revelation is a remedy best taken internally.
You may (not that you need my permission).
Having just had a moment myself I disagree about it being a remedy taken internally, shared revelations can be clensing. At least he's not taking it ------ly.
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At least he's not taking it ------ly.
And there's the first entry in this week's Horrible Pun Of The Week contest.
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If Jeph does decide to motivate Sven into attempting a real relationship, who is most likely to be with? The date with Hanners was great to follow, but even Sven must be able to see that she needs more work than he does to attempt a proper emotional/physical relationship, the only other options I can see are Marigold or a stranger. [or he "turns" Tai :-P]
finally enjoying being able to post, i've been trying to get into the forum for months (same problem as macloud)
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3. Or, perhaps cue Marigold coming in the shop at this moment...?
Yes! And she gets him to team up with her in WoW against Dale, and...
Sven winds up with Dale.
"Being a lothario is just a cover for latent homosexuality" -- Painless (the dentist in M*A*S*H, 1970)
:psyduck:
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If I may fangirl out for a moment, Faye's expressions today are so excellent. And self-pity doesn't suit Sven, or anyone else for that matter. Self-revelation is a remedy best taken internally.
In the first place, that's an epiphany, not simple self-pity. More than that, I suspect it's unrealistic at best to expect stoicism from Sven. Finally, dams seldom break quietly—and, judging by that crap he sold Hanners about his relationship with Faye, not to mention various and sundry other moments we're all aware of, Sven's got the damned Grand Coulee in there.
Besides that, he's either going to say that, or suddenly get a weird look on his face. At least this way Faye knows what's going on. Better yet, it's going to be harder for Sven to ignore or dismiss it.
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If Jeph does decide to motivate Sven into attempting a real relationship, who is most likely to be with? The date with Hanners was great to follow, but even Sven must be able to see that she needs more work than he does to attempt a proper emotional/physical relationship, the only other options I can see are Marigold or a stranger. [or he "turns" Tai :-P]
This is a good question to any fanboy who takes YB's prophecy as seriously as I do. Let's round up the usual suspects:
1) Dora. Ok. That would be stricly illegal (and is here only for the sake of completeness). Besides I don't see a way to break up Dora/Marten without CoD (as a central scene of action) and ultimately all of QCverse going with it.
2) Faye. This one *had* potential. Can't be ruled out logically, but would take some serious creative scripting from Jeph. But, hey! May be QC is supposed to pay Jeph & Christi's eventual kids thru college? But I'm so shipping for Fayngus that this would break my heart.
3) Hannelore. Not now. Or, not yet. A possible setting for them to grow closer to each other would include revival of Deathmole and Sven joining in and adding a degree of professionalism to the outfit. Hmm. More likely Jeph can think of a better scenario, if this is in the cards.
4) Marigold. WoW & a homeric chest. Not impossible as long as they promise to keep the training wheels on for now. Otherwise somebody could fall and get hurt. But is their any real chemistry? Can't see any, but I'm a math geek anyway.
5) Somebody else? (including Cosette, Lydia,...) Minor characters for now and not there/available at this time.
and worthy of a special mention ...
6) Vespavenger. Some might think that these two would deserve each other. Not so fitting for the New Sven, but may be she has reformed, too?
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... self-pity doesn't suit Sven, or anyone else for that matter.
Will Faye hit him with a rolled-up magazine? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/984)
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Wow, Sven's 28? How old is everyone in the QCverse, anyway?
What a leest!
My thoughts to your thoughts...
1. Depends on the state, but it's generally not illegal, actually. But not happening, anyway. I personally root for her breaking up with Marten when he finally has enough of her shit and finding someone else after she works through her insufferable jealousy and control issues. Sucks for Angus, but Marten and Faye came first- I'm still hoping.
2. It was clearly just a stage in their respective developments, people need to let it go now.
3. Why do people bring her up in any romantic capacity? Jeph has made it clear that while she may get better, getting "lets make out and fuck!" better is a very long way off.
4. Too early to tell. They are the two main unattached characters right now.
5. He can always add new characters I guess, but most of the periphery is specifically attached to other people, thus not available for Sven. So Lydia= no, Cosette= god no.
6. Flat no.
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Sven apperars to be having triouble getting past faye so i don't think he'll be getting involved with anyone for a bit, i think he'll just pine and whine for a while.
Faye and Angus seem to be a pretty good match to me, I like Angus
The most obvious result for Sven is that while he's having a crisis whatshername his intern will give him a shoulder to cry on and they'll end up together
Only other thing which occurred to me for Sven was, someone mentioned the idea of him joining Deathmole; maybe he could give Natasha guitar lessons and they might end up together *shrug*
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I suspect Natasha, Ellen and Amir have all essentially been written out of the story. (We KNOW Sara's been kicked out.)
'Shipping Sven with anyone right now isn't going to work, IMNSHO, because Jeph will see the ideas and go in the opposite direction.
Heck, he could kick Sven out of the strip entirely and turn him into a priest or something.
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What I fear will happen - he will tell her how much he misses her JUST as Angus walks into the shop (again).
My thoughts on that scene (in chronological order):
- Arrgggh!
- "Savor the awkwardness, it's almost pleasurable."
- It's a small town. Angus and Sven are gonna bump into each other many times (at CoD in particular). Might as well face any remaining awkwardness and deal with it once and for all.
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Wow, Sven's 28? How old is everyone in the QCverse, anyway?
Early to late 20s.
I think there are only a couple other confirmed ages: Dora is 26 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=144) and Hannelore is 22. (Too lazy to find the link right now, sorry. I think it was around when they went to do karaoke.)
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Dora was 26 then, but she's a year younger than Sven (#337) so she must be 27 by now.
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Unless his birthday comes earlier in the year than hers, then there's a period of time where their rounded age discrepancy is two.
Or this confirms that at least a year has passed in comic-time.
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3. Or, perhaps cue Marigold coming in the shop at this moment...?
Yes! And she gets him to team up with her in WoW against Dale, and...
Sven winds up with Dale.
"Being a lothario is just a cover for latent homosexuality" -- Painless (the dentist in M*A*S*H, 1970)
:psyduck:
No, no, no, no, no -- Sven can't end up with Dale. He's meant to be with Marten! OMG SVEN AND MARTEN ARE THE OTP! YELLINGBIRD AGREES!
Ahem. Sorry. I'm not much for shipping anyway, but apparently even Sven realizes he's got some shit to work through before attempting a relationship. Hmm, maybe after starting to see a therapist on the other side of town, he'll randomly meet Dr. Corinne elsewhere and they'll get involved without knowing until later that he's the Sven Faye was talking about, and then . . . AWKWARDNESS ENSUES. What? It just means that everyone has to go put on Victorian formalwear again, and that's always fun. ^_^
The expressions were indeed awesome in today's strip, but what I liked most is that Faye was nice to Sven because he was nice to Hanners.
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Ah yes, the long neglected slash/ships: Marten and Sven; Dora and Tai; Faye and Dr. Corrine; Dale and Steve; Cosette and Marigold; and of course the incomparable Hannelope!
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Hannelope! I love it!
Rhymes with canteloupe, right?
Let the hyperventilating begin!
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*Slips in quietly, looks around sneakily and smirks*
HANTAI!
*Runs like 'eck*
:-D
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*Slips in quietly, looks around sneakily and smirks*
And people think I was bad, at least I didn't lengthen my post too.
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That blank space represents every time Kugai has longed to but refrained from plugging 'Hantai' ever since the great Shipwrack of—(hell, whenever it was; I don't ship much, and, possessing some slight cleanliness or mind, never use couple portmanteaus, so I hardly noticed).
And no, I don't mean every line. I mean every damned pixel.
Hannelope! I love it!
Rhymes with canteloupe, right?
Let the hyperventilating begin!
If you mean Penelope's, no doubt it would.
Inscrutable.
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HANTAI!
That blank space represents every time Kugai has longed to but refrained from plugging 'Hantai' ever since the great Shipwrack of—(hell, whenever it was; I don't ship much, and, possessing some slight cleanliness or mind, never use couple portmanteaus, so I hardly noticed).
And no, I don't mean every line. I mean every damned pixel.
That's what happens when you keep it bottled up for too long.
That shit'll fester, y'know.
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(http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/fester01.jpg)
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Sad Sven is sad.
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Delurking to say, Hanners, I know you mean well but good God that was creepy as fuck
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LOL HANNELORE.
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And now Faye is wondering if she'd rather be with Old Reliable Angus or New and Improved Sven...
Or at least she was, until Hannelore snuck up behind her and scared the Bejeezes out of her!
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Reenactment time!
( he misses your body ) ( AUGH )
/ \
:mrgreen: :psyduck:
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Not sure what made me laugh more, Hanners' statement, or the facial expression that went with it. :lol:
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And now Faye is wondering if she'd rather be with Old Reliable Angus or New and Improved Sven...
Ugh ugh ugh, I will say it again and again: Faye had as much (if not more!) to do with the disastrous failure of that "relationship" as Sven did. Certainly more in the set-up if not the eventual dissolution. (A dissolution that her various issues and the selfish way she went about dealing with them made pretty much inevitable.)
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OK, that's official, Hanners is now my favorite QC character... I just love the crazy look on her face when she says "he misses your body" :-D
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Delurking to say, Hanners, I know you mean well but good God that was creepy as fuck
You know you love her for it. As to I.
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Ugh ugh ugh, I will say it again and again: Faye had as much (if not more!) to do with the disastrous failure of that "relationship" as Sven did. Certainly more in the set-up if not the eventual dissolution. (A dissolution that her various issues and the selfish way she went about dealing with them made pretty much inevitable.)
I don't disagree, and I think Faye was having as much of an epiphany as Sven, something along the lines of "Maybe he has changed, and it seems like he may still be into me..."
This strip may be foreshadowing an arc where Sven actually makes a whole-hearted effort to get Faye into a relationship, a real relationship, and Faye has to choose between him and Angus, who she's been slow rolling her way into something she genuinely cares about.
This of course leads to Angus challenging Sven to single combat, and Malaysian Battle-Spatulas at dawn, for niether shall live while the other survives, or something...
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Delurking to say, Hanners, I know you mean well but good God that was creepy as fuck
You know you love her for it. As to I.
Yes, yes I do. Mostly because I have done similar things.
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This strip may be foreshadowing an arc where Sven actually makes a whole-hearted effort to get Faye into a relationship, a real relationship, and Faye has to choose between him and Angus, who she's been slow rolling her way into something she genuinely cares about.
This of course leads to Angus challenging Sven to single combat, and Malaysian Battle-Spatulas at dawn, for niether shall live while the other survives, or something...
Nice idea for an arc, I'd say; plus it's somewhat similar to the "choice" Marten went through, between Faye and Dora. Quotes because he didn't really have a choice back there, of course.
And I'd like to say I love Sven's subtle expression in panel 2: truly seems like he died/puked/fainted a little inside.
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I suspect Natasha, Ellen and Amir have all essentially been written out of the story. (We KNOW Sara's been kicked out.)
Ellen yes.
Natasha hmm mostly.
Amir nope, he's still in the band, so he's definitely still around. What happends to that band, anyway ?
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As always, Hanners remains a pillar of astute observation. Actually despite the joke effect, it makes sense for Hanners to say this. After all she was out on the date with Sven in strip 1764 when he outlined in detail how much he missed Faye's body. Good show Jeph, good show.
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Ah, glimmers of the old creepy stalker Hannelore
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good God that was creepy as fuck
This. :-o
Still made me giggle (nervously).
Faye will have nightmares about this moment tonight.
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Ah, glimmers of the old creepy stalker Hannelore
Maybe so, but how much you wanna bet that Faye'll be pumping her for more info in the next strip or so?
And, who is creepier in that case?
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Score yet another one for Hanners. Last few strips since the date were a bit quiet (except 1779!), but this was hysterical.
Any Red Dwarf fans who have the DVDs will remember how in the cast commentaries, the gang talk about how competitive they all were to get given the best punchlines or "woofers" to the extent people would counting them up and cajoling the writers to give them a bigger share. Somehow how I could see a behind-the-scenes strip with the QC gang tallying up who has the most punchlines.... and some of them getting just a little competitive about it, too.
Oh, and YAY for finally being able to sign up for the forums!
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Sad am I, that Hanners buying that is. Better of her I thought. But deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge have I, that move must.
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Fully woken up you yet have not?
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Sad am I, that Hanners buying that is. Better of her I thought. But deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge have I, that move must.
Hijacked your account, Yoda has!
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I love that expression on Hanners,
just imagine if she has the GSX-9500( http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380) ) in her hand and says something slightly different...
Et voilà
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/DeadlyWonky/1783T2.jpg)
Yes, my mind does work like that.
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I want a print the size of the hanners sledding print of 1783 to frame and hang on my wall..
:psyduck:
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Hmm, Faye getting over him as easily as she seems to have might have been another ego bruise. Also, Hannelore doing that was creepy amusing.
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Should I...
I really Shouldn't...
Oh well, here goes...
I love that expression on Hanners,
just imagine if she has the GSX-9500( http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380) ) in her hand and says something slightly different...
Et voilà
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/DeadlyWonky/1783T2.jpg)
Yes, my mind does work like that.
SURPIZE BUTTSECKS!!!!!!!!!
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Dunno why people might be surprised that Dr Corinne wouldn't see any more of the QC gang. There's doctor-patient confidentiality issues, you know, and the more of the same group of friends Dr Corinne sees, the more of a problem it can become. If something person X says is relevant to person Y's treatment, it puts her in a hard position because she has duties to both of them. How could she possibly treat Faye and Sven at the same time without risking a breach of confidentiality in one direction or another?
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Hannelope! I love it!
Rhymes with canteloupe, right?
Let the hyperventilating begin!
Wanna know something scary? I'm pretty sure they're emotionally compatible, if not physically.
I mean, I only put them together originally as a joke, but ... ah, well, at least they could be friends.
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This is quite possibly the funniest strip I have read in some time.
I try really hard to NOT like Hanners ( it's the rebel in me!)
But she is so cyoot when she just appears in panel #5.
it's like dream-sequences in film, where people just slide into frame...
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Dunno why people might be surprised that Dr Corinne wouldn't see any more of the QC gang. There's doctor-patient confidentiality issues, you know, and the more of the same group of friends Dr Corinne sees, the more of a problem it can become. If something person X says is relevant to person Y's treatment, it puts her in a hard position because she has duties to both of them. How could she possibly treat Faye and Sven at the same time without risking a breach of confidentiality in one direction or another?
This comment is informed, reasonable, and it makes sense.
You must be new here...
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I try really hard to NOT like Hanners ( it's the rebel in me!)
You're lost. Utterly, completely lost.
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Dunno why people might be surprised that Dr Corinne wouldn't see any more of the QC gang. There's doctor-patient confidentiality issues, you know, and the more of the same group of friends Dr Corinne sees, the more of a problem it can become. If something person X says is relevant to person Y's treatment, it puts her in a hard position because she has duties to both of them. How could she possibly treat Faye and Sven at the same time without risking a breach of confidentiality in one direction or another?
Not to mention the fact that trying to give good advice and keeping all the secrets apart is emotionally draining.
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Well, there's always group therapy...
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Isn't that Coffee of Doom though?
Don't think Dora wants Dr. Corrine invading her market...
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Well, there's always the Cirque du Psychose...
Fixed.
Oh, none of them are there yet. But put the whole cast in a room together trying to explain their issues to the group and it will be like an emotional fission pile. And Corrine gets to be the cooling rod. How nice for her.
And it just occurred to me Jeph has all these people in his head.
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Fortunately (?) most of the time if you make a "real enough" character they "write themselves" as the saying goes. Which basically means they've walled themselves off in a private portion of your psyche and are handing out notes when prompted, rather than being fully integrated where they can jump out and take over at inopportune moments.
Also, they talk to each other; late at night, if you're quiet, you can hear them whispering...
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What's Most Surprising?
Sven having a moment of introspection - 5 (6.8%)
Dr. Corrine refusing to see any of the other QC cast - 6 (8.2%)
Faye acting normal towards Sven - 25 (34.2%)
Sven considering an "actual" relationship - 9 (12.3%)
Dora leaving the shop in FAYE's hands! - 3 (4.1%)
No specials today (JERKS) - 5 (6.8%)
GOOGLE IT! - 6 (8.2%)
Yelling Bird as a Squishable! - 11 (15.1%)
The Book is out, BTW. - 3 (4.1%) Oh, and did I mention MY COPY CAME IN THE MAIL TODAY!!!!!
Total Voters: 73
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Fortunately (?) most of the time if you make a "real enough" character they "write themselves" as the saying goes. Which basically means they've walled themselves off in a private portion of your psyche and are handing out notes when prompted, rather than being fully integrated where they can jump out and take over at inopportune moments.
Also, they talk to each other; late at night, if you're quiet, you can hear them whispering...
You know, I think Jeph actually mentioned as much about this in the aftermath of Dora & Marten (Way back here at strip 566 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=566)).
This strip is a good example of a conversation I was writing veering off in a completely different direction than I initally expected. Along with most of the rest of you guys, I was expecting Faye's initial reaction to be shock, or anger, or grief, or some other really negative emotion. But resignation? I never would have guessed it until I started writing her dialogue in panel 2 and it just appeared on screen. Then it was like a switch flipped in my head- "of course she's been expecting this to happen! She's known this was a potential consequence ever since they had The Talk!" I dunno, it makes good sense to me. Hopefully it makes sense to you too.
I feel really pretentious writing about my work like this. I don't think I'm some kind of Great Artiste or whatever, I'm just some dude who draws a comic strip on the intar wubs, you know? But sometimes when I'm writing dialogue it really does feel like it's out of my hands, that the things Marten &co. say and do are just appearing as if I weren't involved in the process at all. It's weird. I hope it makes for interesting writing, anyway.
I used to have a really clear idea of what was going to happen next in the comic. Nowadays I'm almost as much of a spectator as the rest of you. It's pretty exciting!
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SURPIZE BUTTSECKS!!!!!!!!!
Damn you; you stole my idea!
Oh well, I might just go ahead and alter the speech bubble anyway. Just for shits and giggles.
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The expressions in this strip are really great, Sven's, Faye's, and Hanners'. I have a feeling that Faye will re-evaluate her opinion of the Sven/Hanners date once Hanners fills in the details, at which point she'll get mad (I know *eyeroll*) and confront Sven, and maybe fall into bed with him. O_o Or maybe she'll start angsting over him and mess things up with Angus that way, since she is after all an accomplished self-saboteur. Those are sort of obvious ways to go, though, so maybe Jeph has alternate awkwardness in store for them all.
I love that expression on Hanners,
just imagine if she has the GSX-9500( http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380) ) in her hand and says something slightly different...
Et voilà
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/DeadlyWonky/1783T2.jpg)
Yes, my mind does work like that.
Bahaha! Nicely done. There should probably be a "buzzzzzzzz" in the background, though. :-D
PS: I got my QC volume 1 book, and it's . . . bigger than I was expecting. *grins*
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Don't let the kids see this; it's dissilusioning.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m315/mustang6172/qcwhisperbeta.png)
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Well, there's always the Cirque du Psychose...
Fixed.
Oh, none of them are there yet. But put the whole cast in a room together trying to explain their issues to the group and it will be like an emotional fission pile. And Corrine gets to be the cooling rod. How nice for her.
And it just occurred to me Jeph has all these people in his head.
Great.
Now I picture Jeff as this creepy guy wandering around and muttering to himself while periodically smacking himself in the head with a large blunt object.
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Now I picture Jeff as this creepy guy wandering around and muttering to himself while periodically smacking himself in the head with a large blunt object.
At least he would never be lonely!
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Hmm. I didn't consider homosexual encounters as possibilities for Sven's next date, so let me append the leest with
7. Pastor Vodka.
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Dr. Daniels, paging Dr. Daniels. Dr. Jack Daniels, please report to the ER!
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I love that expression on Hanners,
just imagine if she has the GSX-9500( http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1380) ) in her hand and says something slightly different...
Et voilà
(http://)
Yes, my mind does work like that.
Brilliant.
You do realise you've possibly unleashed a whole thread of reinterpretations of this single panel, right? There is no end to the possibilities.
Here's a completely different, crueler and I would say even creepier, direction.
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/26/557734/pics/QC%20panel%20-%201783father.jpg)
Btw, how cutesy did everyone look back around strip 1380 with the slightly larger heads, bigger eyes and thicker lines? d'awwww ^_^
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Sven just got metaphorically getting kicked in the nads, and Faye just nearly had a heart attack.
Just an average day in CoD :-D
Faye definitely needs a warning label.
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I see a t-shirt design in the future.
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You know, it might be their relative heights, but I can't help but get the sense Hannelore's eyes are trained on Faye's breasts in all four panels...
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Best. Punchline. Ever.
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Just gotta say...
Wow.
Just so out of the blue, really, it seems like, this all came out.
Seriously, Sven only mentioned that he missed her, and it really felt like he was actively trying to move on. It didn't feel like an "OMG still want her" kind of moment, especially with what happened lately.
Sometimes people intentionally sabotage a good thing, and bringing up, out of context, that conversation about a relationship that soured in the past... I don't know, it just seems a little creepy, and dishonest. It seems like Hanners was misrepresenting what Sven said- he made one small statement about how he missed her and the topic moved on.
Blargh, rambling.
Yeah, I know, punchline and all, but even so... Just seems like she has some ulterior motive.
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I'm sitting here wondering how Sven saying that he missed her breasts could possibly be misrepresented?
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I'm sitting here wondering how Sven saying that he missed her breasts could possibly be misrepresented?
Because Sven was using his statement as the avenue of expressing that, yes, he still did miss Faye at some point, but it was plainly obvious (especially from the further events of the date) that he had made a distinct point that he was trying to move on, and he was even enjoying the fact that, despite the fact that he did miss Faye, he was at that point finally able to have a "real date".
Despite the awkdwardness, Sven has been sincerely trying to get on with his life, to move beyond Faye. When a relationship ends, especially if it ends badly for one person, there will always be aspects of the failed relationship that will be difficult to push out of one's mind, especially on dates with other people where they might not, in some cases, "add up" to what was lost.
We ourselves have SEEN Sven try very hard (especially with the friendly conversation with Faye in the COD) to move beyond what had been a difficult, uncomfortable situation.
And then Hanners suddenly comes in for no apparent reason and gives it all a squeeze in the behind.
What can it possibly serve at this point?
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Sven's not over Faye.
Sven's not in any way, shape or form over Faye.
In order to be "over" somebody, you have to admit that, at least at some point, you were "under" them (prevered sexual positions notwithstanding.)
Sven has been, since just before the second time he slept with Faye, telling anybody and everybody concerned that it was just sex and there were absolutely no feelings whatsoever where Faye (or anybody else for that matter, ever) was concerned.
In yesterday's comic, that particular Aswan High Dam was showing signs of weakness. As in look for high ground because Denial is about to flood all over Egypt weakness.
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Sven's not over Faye.
Sven's not in any way, shape or form over Faye.
While I would lay doubts to the veracity of that claim, even if Sven isn't "over" Faye, he's still been trying to move on. And that first step, the date with Hanners, though it had rough parts, was a step in that direction.
Because even if Sven wasn't trying to move past this, Faye had.
All that Hanner's revelation can accomplish is to put more awkwardness into the situation.
Or at the very least, it seems like there could have been a better way of talking to Faye about it, rather than a rear assault while she's preoccupied with COD work.
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He doesn't know HOW to move on. That's just it.
His definition of "moving on" is to duck out and avoid any and all future interactions with said individual.
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And then Hanners suddenly comes in for no apparent reason and gives it all a squeeze in the behind. What can it possibly serve at this point?
Hanners is very inexperienced in personal relationships, and has some buggy software, so it probably never occurred to her not to say anything. Sven (an experienced player) should have kept his mouth shut while he was on his date with Hanners, instead of dumping his unresolved issues on her (for no apparent reason). What possible purpose did that serve?
More great expressions in todays strip too. Art-kudos to Jeph. The buns with flourescent-coloured icing in the cabinet behind Faye look very unhealthy.
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Hanners is very inexperienced in personal relationships, and has some buggy software, so it probably never occurred to her not to say anything. Sven (an experienced player) should have kept his mouth shut while he was on his date with Hanners, instead of dumping his unresolved issues on her (for no apparent reason).
Indeed- Sven has a severe case of not-thinking-before-speaking syndrome...
I wonder where this all will lead...
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While I would lay doubts to the veracity of that claim, even if Sven isn't "over" Faye, he's still been trying to move on. And that first step, the date with Hanners, though it had rough parts, was a step in that direction.
Hmm. I think that in Sven's mind the pretendate was mostly just a kind gesture. It may also have originally been a non-serious attempt to prove himself that he can move on, but then the memory of Faye hit him full force. It is an on/off thing. Sometimes he's ok with it, but his rational mind is not always in charge. I haven't ruled out an ulterior motive (for the pretendate) of proving to Faye/Dora that he has reformed. Brownie points?
Because even if Sven wasn't trying to move past this, Faye had.
Unfortunately not all the parties of a break-up move on at the same pace.
All that Hanner's revelation can accomplish is to put more awkwardness into the situation.
Or at the very least, it seems like there could have been a better way of talking to Faye about it, rather than a rear assault while she's preoccupied with COD work.
I think that Faye became aware (unless she already was) of Sven's lingering feelings towards her from the uncomfortable way Sven left CoD post-haste upon hearing about Faye having found somebody else. Hanners' revelation only "actualized" it. The rear assault was just Jeph's way of adding a little levity to an otherwise dramatic strip. He is quite good at giving his readers something positive, when plot development makes it necessary for one of the characters to feel bad. Hanners was the logical choice to deliver the punch this time, because she wittnessed Sven's admission. The APCs usually act in this capacity. Momo showing Angus the finger in strip 1631 is the best example that comes to mind.
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Hanners is very inexperienced in personal relationships, and has some buggy software, so it probably never occurred to her not to say anything. Sven (an experienced player) should have kept his mouth shut while he was on his date with Hanners, instead of dumping his unresolved issues on her (for no apparent reason).
Indeed- Sven has a severe case of not-thinking-before-speaking syndrome...
I wonder where this all will lead...
I sympathize, I suffer from that one too.
If its a disease, anyway.
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I think some of it might be this, Sven himself said that he doesn't really do relationships. Some of his issue could be lingering attraction to Faye as well as missing her personally. And getting over someone is difficult. Hell after I had a breakup with my ex a couple years back I had trouble but was mostly ok a few months after, then all of a sudden I heard our song on the radio and it basically took me right back to the moment she dumped me. Maybe it's pathetic but it's the truth and it might be similar to what happened with Sven. Then again it might also be that he has few real close friends he can talk to about all of this.
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While I would lay doubts to the veracity of that claim, even if Sven isn't "over" Faye, he's still been trying to move on. And that first step, the date with Hanners, though it had rough parts, was a step in that direction.
The "date" with Hanners was just a pretend date for Hanners' benefit, not Sven's. It wasn't Sven's idea and I'm quite sure he didn't see it as an exercise in getting over Faye.
Sven is clearly not over her. His reluctance to go on any real dates, or even have sex with anyone else since their fall-out, his blindness towards a girl known to be his type hitting on him, and the fact that after Marten told him everything that happened with his last fight with Dora, at first all he could think about was whether Faye's tits were restrained or not, all point to Sven being more than a little preoccupied with her in a less-than-healthy way.
And of course, if you're really over someone, you don't get weird and leave abruptly when they tell you they're dating someone else.
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Hanners strikes me as the kind of person who's actually read every warning label and sticker on everything she owns in the whole world... thrice. I'm sure she can come up with several new ones for Faye quite easily.
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The "date" with Hanners was just a pretend date for Hanners' benefit, not Sven's. It wasn't Sven's idea and I'm quite sure he didn't see it as an exercise in getting over Faye.
Agreed - although it did turn out in a way that could be beneficial to him.
all he could think about was whether Faye's tits were restrained or not, all point to Sven being more than a little preoccupied with her in a less-than-healthy way.
True. But the references to Faye's physical characteristits (typo intentional), and his insistance that that's what he is missing confuse me. I kept -- and in fact keep -- thinking that he's just confused, or suppressing his *real* feelings towards Faye.
In 1481 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1481) and 1486 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1486) he confirms this, and in the latter almost, almost actually admits that to Dora that he is in love with Faye.
That is, in fact, a lot more consistent with his behaviour in CoD this morning.
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I am still surprised how much stuff people can write about Sven.
Seriously, he's the most shallow character of the whole cast ...
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Seriously, he's the most shallow character of the whole cast ...
You state this as fact. You might be surprised to learn that others might disagree with you.
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Hanners strikes me as the kind of person who's actually read every warning label and sticker on everything she owns in the whole world... thrice. I'm sure she can come up with several new ones for Faye quite easily.
Caution: May cause night sweats, shortness of breath, and dizziness. If erection lasts more than four hours, seek professional help immediately!
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Sven's not over Faye.
Sven's not in any way, shape or form over Faye.
In order to be "over" somebody, you have to admit that, at least at some point, you were "under" them (prevered sexual positions notwithstanding.)
Sven has been, since just before the second time he slept with Faye, telling anybody and everybody concerned that it was just sex and there were absolutely no feelings whatsoever where Faye (or anybody else for that matter, ever) was concerned.
In yesterday's comic, that particular Aswan High Dam was showing signs of weakness. As in look for high ground because Denial is about to flood all over Egypt weakness.
Grand Coulee. If you're gonna swipe my metaphors, at least don't change the names. And yes, to be over something, you have to realize you were in it to begin with.
And then Hanners suddenly comes in for no apparent reason and gives it all a squeeze in the behind. What can it possibly serve at this point?
Hanners is very inexperienced in personal relationships, and has some buggy software, so it probably never occurred to her not to say anything. Sven (an experienced player) should have kept his mouth shut while he was on his date with Hanners, instead of dumping his unresolved issues on her (for no apparent reason). What possible purpose did that serve?
I still wish she'd picked up on the false note in that. I agree, Hanners lacks the experience to do it, but she's come up with some penetrating, unexpected insights before. I had hoped she'd say "Wow! And I though you just missed being around her!" or something like that.
Probably needs Raven. Stupid college education.
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I am still surprised how much stuff people can write about Sven.
Seriously, he's the most shallow character of the whole cast ...
I'm one of his hearty detractors, and even I don't think that. It's why the character irritates me so. If Sven were shallow, I wouldn't expect more from him. You know, like Steve. Nobody expects introspection from Steve.
<Gets up on a high, big, safe rock as the sharks (species Stephicus Franticfanius) come in towards the chum> :-o
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Am I the only one who chuckled at the comic, but laughed aloud at the first line of the newspost?
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You know, like Steve. Nobody expects introspection from Steve.
<Gets up on a high, big, safe rock as the sharks (species Stephicus Franticfanius) come in towards the chum> :-o
Hey!
You'd be surprised. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1701)
(I was!)
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Am I the only one who chuckled at the comic, but laughed aloud at the first line of the newspost?
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Nnnnooooo. It made me all but piss my pants.
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You know, like Steve. Nobody expects introspection from Steve.
<Gets up on a high, big, safe rock as the sharks (species Stephicus Franticfanius) come in towards the chum> :-o
Hey!
You'd be surprised. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1701)
(I was!)
That's not introspection. When a bunch of your friends, and your SO tell you you're being stupid, and you finally give in and say, "OK, I was being stupid", that's not introspection. That's a forced surrender!
Sven on the other hand is being introspective. Starting out with the afore-quoted strips where he asks Faye if they can still be friends because he misses hanging with her, was the first step. Now, realizing that that's not all he misses about her (and unintentionally dumping it into Hanner's lap) was the next phase. Unfortunately, further development has now been temporarily derailed by the Fangus train.
I think I also see Pastor Vodka in Sven's immediate future - he's been writing country songs for so long, he may be starting to believe some of their purported remedies for a broken heart!
Also, I was right about Faye getting more details from Haners - alright, so the grilling turned into a simple "WTF?" moment, but still...
I also had the impression that this is a bit of a social engineering experiment on Hanner's part. While she's not used to dealing with people, and so keeping secrets (or just keeping quiet) for the sake of another may not be part of her mileu, I think this may be intentional information distribution. Faye clearly looked disturbed by Sven's behaviour, and Hanners was trying to 'splain why. Unfortunately, she caught Faye in mid processing (you know, that blank stare) and scared the crap out of her.
One of my own talents, I'm afraid. Im a very quiet person when I move, and tend to surprise people by being in a room for several minutes before they realize I'm there... usually by turning around and buping into me!
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Hanners strikes me as the kind of person who's actually read every warning label and sticker on everything she owns in the whole world... thrice. I'm sure she can come up with several new ones for Faye quite easily.
Caution: May cause night sweats, shortness of breath, and dizziness. If erection lasts more than four hours, you should be so lucky!
Fixed it for you.
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Cool, Faye is impressed that Sven misses her body more than the time spent with her. Jeph sure knows how to write realistic women, amiright?
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How is she supposed to know otherwise? (Yes, Sven said something about it, but he was trying to make peace, and we all know, including Faye, that he's manipulative). And Faye has said before she thinks her breasts are one of the reasons people want to spend time with her. (She said 'tolerate' actually), so it's consistent.*
You know, like Steve. Nobody expects introspection from Steve.
<Gets up on a high, big, safe rock as the sharks (species Stephicus Franticfanius) come in towards the chum> :-o
Hey!
You'd be surprised. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1701)
(I was!)
Nah. Like Carl points out, that was acceptance—you can see it in his expression in the first panel. The look in the last panel reflects that Steve is good-natured. I never said Steve wasn't a nice guy; simply that he'd not given to much reflection. Probably why he was recruited by the USDKYA. Introspection is probably not a desirable trait in their field agents.
*Edit: found the strip http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=801
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That's not introspection. When a bunch of your friends, and your SO tell you you're being stupid, and you finally give in and say, "OK, I was being stupid", that's not introspection. That's a forced surrender!
Entirely true. It was a very lame (and intentionally lame at that!) attempt to disagree with Raoul, in order to justify his retreat to a safe rock.
And then you came along and defused it. You had to, didn't you? Mathematicians, they're all alike. Let not The Truth be sacrificed for the sake of a good joke...
:D
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Cool, Faye is impressed that Sven misses her body more than the time spent with her. Jeph sure knows how to write realistic women, amiright?
Um... maybe I am missing your point. Would you care to elaborate?
And, er, I do not read that Faye is impressed. Amazed? sure. But impressed?
Edit: on top of that, Faye very likely *knows* that it's not just her tits.
Why?
1. Because Sven told her so, and
2. Because she KNOWS about Hannelore's software quirks.
She may still be amazed that sdhe made that impression on him.
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N.B. Depending on context amazed can occasionally be synonymous with impressed. It's mostly used these days to imply archaic speech in fantasy novels, however, so I don't credit this as the troll's intent.
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<soapbox>
The nice thing about the English language is that, WHEN USED CORRECTLY, it enables you to very precisely say what you mean.
(spoke the stoopit forrinner, for whom English is only his third language, right after Dutch and C#...)
As I keep saying to my offspring, "if that wasn't what you MEANT, you shouldn't have SAID it."
</soapbox>
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English also allows for obfuscation, subterfuge, and best of all, intentionally confusing your listeners!
Like any fine tool, it's a matter of what the craftsman chooses to make with it that matters. And in the hands of the less-than-capable, it can even be dangerous!
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Oh, there you go, blaming English for everything.
There's a lot of ways this could go:
- Sven tries to get into a "relationship" with someone (not of the current cast);
- Sven tries do the same, but with an existing cast member (Hannelore and Marigold are the two likely targets);
- Sven tries to woo Faye back -which could result in comedy gold; or
- Sven gets eaten by an Allosaurus.
Since there was a "hint" of it with the Helen of Troy reference back in 1732 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1732), I'm almost betting on the Sven vs. Angus over Faye situation. Unfortunately, that turns into a bit of a Archie vs. Reggie over Veronica kind of vibe.
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There's a lot of ways this could go:
- Sven tries to get into a "relationship" with someone (not of the current cast);
- Sven tries do the same, but with an existing cast member (Hannelore and Marigold are the two likely targets);
- Sven tries to woo Faye back -which could result in comedy gold; or
- Sven gets eaten by an Allosaurus.
Sven uses his first genuine experience of heartbreak to write a GOOD country song for once. This fails to sell and
his career is ruined.
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Or it could go yet another way:
- Sven has no idea what to do, and goes catatonic.
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There's a lot of ways this could go:
- Sven tries to get into a "relationship" with someone (not of the current cast);
- Sven tries do the same, but with an existing cast member (Hannelore and Marigold are the two likely targets);
- Sven tries to woo Faye back -which could result in comedy gold; or
- Sven gets eaten by an Allosaurus.
Sven uses his first genuine experience of heartbreak to write a GOOD country song for once. This fails to sell and
his career is ruined.
The Cowboy Junkies are still going strong...
I'm surprised no one in the strip has pointed Sven in the obvious direction: Just look for another girl with the same proportions. Faye's not unique in that. This would either a) lead him to find happiness again and maybe they could slowly work on the emotional connection part later or b) cause him to realize he's actually in love with Faye beyond just her body and even though this would leave him heartbroken he would at least come to the realization that he's not as big a douchebag as everyone thought.
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Or it could go yet another way:
- Sven has no idea what to do, and goes catatonic.
If love does that to Faye in qc-universe (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1725) then it wouldn't really be surprising at all for that to happen to Sven!
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True. But the references to Faye's physical characteristits (typo intentional), and his insistance that that's what he is missing confuse me. I kept -- and in fact keep -- thinking that he's just confused, or suppressing his *real* feelings towards Faye.
That is, in fact, a lot more consistent with his behaviour in CoD this morning.
I agree, I also think he's partially in denial about his real feelings for Faye. He didn't look terribly happy admitting to Dora that Faye made him actually feel things, so now he could be trying to ignore it. But Faye's revelation that she's dating again probably wrecked that for him.
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I predict Faye finding Sven mid-mope at a bar and trying to console him, then erupting into a RAAGE over on of his comments. (possibly to the tune of "I thought you'd get over Gina and come back") Southern brewed fury will take over.
By the way: Hello everybody! I had activation issues too, and I'm a supporter of the Dickbroom league (even if that joke has died)
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If the text is to be believed, Sven has never once had to "figure out" a situation like this before because he's never actually felt anything for any of the girls he has slept with, he was actually developing real feelings towards Faye and has been in major denial. I think hannahsaurusrex is right, he'll go and get stone drunk, however I reckon that it'll be Faye and Angus, rather than Faye on her own, and he'll blurt out to her how he really feels, gets into a fight with Angus and gets KO'd by Faye, when it turns out that Angus is a really weedy fighter.
[aside] Really i just want to see Sven thrown across the bar like Angus was. [/aside]
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Nah, he'll end up blurting out something inappropriate instead, we've all seen what happens when his brain shortcircuits.
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What do you make of Sven's reaction to Fayngus?
He is deeply troubled by this revelation. - 8 (14.3%)
One shot, right to the ego. - 15 (26.8%)
One shot, right to the 'nads. - 9 (16.1%)
He's thinking, "Where's the nearest bridge?" - 3 (5.4%)
"Where's that big-busted computer geekette I ran into?" - 9 (16.1%)
Meh, just one more country music lyric. - 5 (8.9%)
GOOGLE IT! - 2 (3.6%)
A bedevilment of bunyips. - 0 (0%)
Questionable Content Volume I - AVAILABLE NOW! - 5 (8.9%)
Total Voters: 56
(No one got the "bunyips" reference?)
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Dump Anugs and go back to Sven.
So... who's this Anugs guy? :D
I have to say I'm amazed that the Google it! option lingers longer in the polls than the QC Volume 1 option. ;)
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(No one got the "bunyips" reference?)
As Sven writes country music, I thought of this lot (http://www.bunyipmusic.com/).
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I think I also see Pastor Vodka in Sven's immediate future - he's been writing country songs for so long, he may be starting to believe some of their purported remedies for a broken heart!
Does anyone in country songs drink anything furrin' like Vodka?
One of my own talents, I'm afraid. Im a very quiet person when I move, and tend to surprise people by being in a room for several minutes before they realize I'm there... usually by turning around and bumping into me!
Carl-E, the Agent Gibbs of the forum. :-D
No one got the "bunyips" reference?
The bunyip (a legendary creature from Australian Aboriginal folklore) is proverbially used down here for something that does not exist (hence the local insult "bunyip aristocrat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunyip_aristocracy)"), so I'm not surprised that it got no votes.
a GOOD country song
Now there's a fine example of a bunyip!
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a GOOD country song
Now there's a fine example of a bunyip!
LOL!!!
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Since I dug up that quote, I've been thinking about Faye's fixation on her breasts' role* in her interpersonal relationships. Based on that, I think she's gonna … (if you want my marker, you know what to do. Jeph says he doesn't read the forums much anymore {a good policy for the most part, I imagine—hard to watch while we crudely vivisect his baby} and this is simply too good for me to risk that he's lying and turn him off on it.)
That's not introspection. When a bunch of your friends, and your SO tell you you're being stupid, and you finally give in and say, "OK, I was being stupid", that's not introspection. That's a forced surrender!
Entirely true. It was a very lame (and intentionally lame at that!) attempt to disagree with Raoul, in order to justify his retreat to a safe rock.
I don't need your pity, man.
(Okay, maybe I do, but you needn't be so obvious about it.)
Seriously, though, there was at one time a hardy cadre that, every time he hadn't appeared in over two weeks, basically chanted "where's Steve?" "what about Steve?" "we sure do miss Steve." "Steve? Oh, it's just Marten. I thought you were…" slinks off in disappointment. Okay, I exaggerate, but only a little. Are these souls no longer with us?
(No one got the "bunyips" reference?)
Of course I got it—I read Secrets of Power: Find Your Own Truth (Shadowrun novel) ages ago. But I didn't see how it applied. Say, you're not needing my pity, are you?
*Roles? I hate it when I'm not sure of number, especially since English has only two (unless it's dealing with modifiers, anyway).
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If only there were a well-endowed woman in the cast who was attracted to Sven and capable of surprising insights ...
I admit it, I just want Raven back.
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Am I the only one who chuckled at the comic, but laughed aloud at the first line of the newspost?
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Nnnnooooo. It made me all but piss my pants.
It made me picture Ripley from Aliens in the forklift-suit-thing reaching out with a metallic arm to try and squeeze one of Faye's boobies . . . and then falling over in a shower of sparks and twitching.
I'm kinda surprised that Faye wasn't mad since she so often defaults to raaage, but maybe her emotional growth is allowing her to chill, or at least flip out less. Growth is good! Also, though it's possible that Hanners is looking straight at Faye's boobs in panel 1, she's pretty clearly looking at her face in the other panels.
And huzzah for the Synchronicity cupcakes!
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Of course I got it—I read Secrets of Power: Find Your Own Truth (Shadowrun novel) ages ago.
Wow, mega-props to you for even knowing what Shadowrun is. I used to play that with a group of regular gaming friends, one of whom actually wrote one of the guidebooks. I only read one or two of the novelizations, though.
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If only there were a well-endowed woman in the cast who was attracted to Sven and capable of surprising insights ...
Marigold?
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Marigold and Sven together! Shenanigan possibilities out the wazoo!
Addendum-
I know this may come a little bit late, but "good country" songs can be found... Just take a look at the work of Johnny Cash or the haunting "Midnight in Montgomery". It's like any medium- you have to toss out 99999999.9999% of the "popular" dreck to find the hidden gems buried within the massive pile of UBMEODs.
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Of course I got it—I read Secrets of Power: Find Your Own Truth (Shadowrun novel) ages ago.
Wow, mega-props to you for even knowing what Shadowrun is. I used to play that with a group of regular gaming friends, one of whom actually wrote one of the guidebooks. I only read one or two of the novelizations, though.
That... was not... what I meant. *sigh*
(Was I the only one who got an "insert" featuring some Wondermark wisdom with my book?)
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And a [bizarrely-early?] Pintsize strip to end the week.
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If only there were a well-endowed woman in the cast who was attracted to Sven and capable of surprising insights ...
Marigold?
Raven >>>>>>>> Marigold. I actually kinda miss her and her hobo ex-boyfriend.
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Boy Marten sure does like Guitar Porn: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1737 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1737)
Pretty kinky how he likes to read it out in the open like that...
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Poor Winslow
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I thought "Mr. Peepers" was some human-monkey hybrid Chris Kattan played on SNL. And isn't a walking computer having suchlike for a pet similar to a human raising hookworms? (I.E. something that can get into your innards and really screw things up.)
Of course I got it—I read Secrets of Power: Find Your Own Truth (Shadowrun novel) ages ago.
That... was not... what I meant. *sigh*
(Was I the only one who got an "insert" featuring some Wondermark wisdom with my book?)
I got an ad hawking other books on one of the endpapers, if that's what you mean, but I didn't, in my casual glance, notice any bunyip on the Wondermark entry. And Shadowrun simply supplied my first exposure to the critter.
Wow, mega-props to you for even knowing what Shadowrun is. I used to play that with a group of regular gaming friends, one of whom actually wrote one of the guidebooks. I only read one or two of the novelizations, though.
So I'm taking it he isn't the person who was subsidizing the six-sider production industry. Somebody who helped design that system clearly was.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414). Of course Marten is a guitar nerd rather than a computer geek, so maybe the cricket actually immolated itself on some other circuit-board. Pintsize's robo-religious ecstasy is a bit creepy, but of course he has tried before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1421) to escape the cycle of silicon samsara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saṃsāra_(Buddhism)). Poor Winslow.
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WALL-E kept a pet cockroach. It seemed to work out okay for him/them.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414). Of course Marten is a guitar nerd rather than a computer geek, so maybe the cricket actually immolated itself on some other circuit-board.
It would actually make sense that Pintsize's main operational motherboard be in his head- he can remain fully operational and aware even when fully disconnected from the chassis, as well as said chassis being completely hot-swappable as well. This leads me to believe that the head contains Pintsize's motherboard, RAM, a battery and a base amount of boot storage memory, while the chassis contains the main power supply, ports, at least one secondary drive, weapons and whatever other accessories might be mounted within. Since Marigold can "bypass the chassis hardware", that would seem to strongly suggest that AnthroPCs can operate with just the head being functional.
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Does this mean that Winslow will now embark on terrible and protracted revenge against Pintsize?
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414). Of course Marten is a guitar nerd rather than a computer geek, so maybe the cricket actually immolated itself on some other circuit-board.
It would actually make sense that Pintsize's main operational motherboard be in his head- he can remain fully operational and aware even when fully disconnected from the chassis, as well as said chassis being completely hot-swappable as well. This leads me to believe that the head contains Pintsize's motherboard, RAM, a battery and a base amount of boot storage memory, while the chassis contains the main power supply, ports, at least one secondary drive, weapons and whatever other accessories might be mounted within. Since Marigold can "bypass the chassis hardware", that would seem to strongly suggest that AnthroPCs can operate with just the head being functional.
This gives me images of the disembodied heads of Futurama...
And the strip has a familiar ring, harkening back to the first known computer "bug (http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm)" (a moth wedged into a relay) in Harvard's Mark II computer.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414).
Have we hit a comic singularity discontinuity?
Marten did use his torso as a cereal bowl (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=464) at one point, while his head was vehemently protesting. That also suggests that the torso does not contain anything vital. I agree that in 1414 with the torso open it does look like the motherboard is in there.
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I agree that in 1414 with the torso open it does look like the motherboard is in there.
Could you point it out? I see an optical drive above where Marigold has plugged her laptop in (which would correlate with the positioning of Pintsize's drive slot) and above that I see something covered by RF shielding (I suspect it's the mechanics for Pintsize's arms). I don't see a motherboard in there.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso...
It would make sense that his primary hardware is in the head because when Marigold thumped him for breast related terrorism in 1457 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1457) he starts to slur his words badly.
In addition to the other points already made about hot-swapping, decapitated protesting etc,
ps. also I think that if it was his torso then the cake frosting would have done some damage in 611 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=611) and Marten wouldn't have just left it to soak.
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Seriously, though, there was at one time a hardy cadre that, every time he hadn't appeared in over two weeks, basically chanted "where's Steve?" "what about Steve?" "we sure do miss Steve." "Steve? Oh, it's just Marten. I thought you were…" slinks off in disappointment. Okay, I exaggerate, but only a little. Are these souls no longer with us?
They've been replaced, see?
I admit it, I just want Raven back.
I think the forum recycles them on a regular basis.
(Just imagine what would happen here if Jeph would decide to put Hannelore on a bus...)
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Could you point it out? I see an optical drive above where Marigold has plugged her laptop in (which would correlate with the positioning of Pintsize's drive slot) and above that I see something covered by RF shielding (I suspect it's the mechanics for Pintsize's arms). I don't see a motherboard in there.
Ok. Sorry. My ignorance on computer HW is thus officially revealed. I thought that the stuff sticking down from the covered part looked like a stack of cards on a bus, and so assumed that the top would be hiding the motherboard. I haven't dared to add anything to my PCs myself since '01 when I added a little bit of extra RAM to keep the old reliable '94 60 MHz Pentium up and running win95. A true collectors item! FDIV bug and everything. Boots up from a 3 and a half inch floppy in one tenth of the time used by this presumably reasonably up-to-date dualcore 2GHz laptop running XP.
The point still stands. Whatever is showing in 1414 should not stay there, when the torso is used as a cereal bowl.
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While it's already remarkable that we collectively do reverse psychology on the human QC cast, reverse-engineering a fictional robot really takes fandom to new, unanticipated, levels! :D
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In refreference to Pintsize's architechture, two words: blue tooth.
His mother board could be cloud-sourced to the sub-etha network for all we know! He's a fictional comic relief robot, don't worry to much about where is parts go. Newegg.com doesn't carry them. (I know, I've checked.)
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If only there were a well-endowed woman in the cast who was attracted to Sven and capable of surprising insights ...
I admit it, I just want Raven back.
Me too... :-(
Also...
Mister Peepers: Never forget.
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In refreference to Pintsize's architechture, two words: blue tooth.
Bluetooth (which is actually one word) is the arthritic* snail of wireless comms. Pintsize would need something way faster.
*Yes, I know snails have no joints, and so by definition cannot suffer from arthritis, but you know what I mean.
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I haven't dared to add anything to my PCs myself since '01 when I added a little bit of extra RAM to keep the old reliable '94 60 MHz Pentium up and running win95. A true collectors item! FDIV bug and everything. Boots up from a 3 and a half inch floppy in one tenth of the time used by this presumably reasonably up-to-date dualcore 2GHz laptop running XP.
A tool that does what you need it to do is useful even if old. I'm writing this post on a 1999 purple ("Grape") iMac I got for thirty bucks at a PC Salvage store. Stuffed in a ten-buck 512MB stick in it, and viola- my daily QC addiction without tying up an extra PC in the house.
My "main" writing computer is a circa 1994-1995 Mac 6400. Uses one of the most fantastic, heaviest keyboards I've ever used, the Apple Extended Keyboard.
The point still stands. Whatever is showing in 1414 should not stay there, when the torso is used as a cereal bowl.
Agreed. Hopefully that chassis was empty before he cerealed it.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414).
Have we hit a comic singularity discontinuity?
Marten did use his torso as a cereal bowl (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=464) at one point, while his head was vehemently protesting. That also suggests that the torso does not contain anything vital. I agree that in 1414 with the torso open it does look like the motherboard is in there.
When Hannelore foolishly stuffs Pintsize with too much RAM, Marten strikes Pintsize a good un' the back of the head, and the teeny terror spits the ramstick out (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=629). Where the RAM be, there be ye motherboard, me hearties! Although we be assumin' the wee monster's other ram be soldered on.
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Pintsize's motherboard is in his head? I thought it was in his torso (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1414). Of course Marten is a guitar nerd rather than a computer geek, so maybe the cricket actually immolated itself on some other circuit-board. Pintsize's robo-religious ecstasy is a bit creepy, but of course he has tried before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1421) to escape the cycle of silicon samsara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saṃsāra_(Buddhism)). Poor Winslow.
It's in his head. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=21) Jeph even mentions this in the book.
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The apple Extended Keyboard is nice, but throw ye down on an IBM Model M. I do so love an input device that can double as a melee weapon in a pinch.
http://www.preater.com/modelm/
yum.
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I've got two of those. :-D
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Erm... Is Marten reading gutair porn there :-P
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Raven >>>>>>>> Marigold. I actually kinda miss her and her hobo ex-boyfriend.
Agreed. I don't understand Marigold's appeal at all. Raven was a fun character, but I've always found Marigold to be a little depressing.
Also, I'm new. Hello.
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Of course I got it—I read Secrets of Power: Find Your Own Truth (Shadowrun novel) ages ago.
Wow, mega-props to you for even knowing what Shadowrun is. I used to play that with a group of regular gaming friends, one of whom actually wrote one of the guidebooks. I only read one or two of the novelizations, though.
That... was not... what I meant. *sigh*
(Was I the only one who got an "insert" featuring some Wondermark wisdom with my book?)
I wasn't actually addressing whether I knew what you meant, just responding to raoullefere (and correct, raoullefere, my friend had nothing to gain from the whole six-sider thing; he playtested an early version of the game on some friends, including my later-to-be husband, and he wrote the book on magic). As to "bunyips," I doubt that Shadowrun and Wondermark are the only two possible sources referencing them, since they are mythical beings and whatnot. I did not get any insert with my QC book other than my packing slip, though I do recall seeing Wondermark's Supernatural Collective Nouns print for sale at TopatoCo. If you got a copy of that print, then lucky you! They either like you or accidentally put part of someone else's order in your package.
Does this mean that Winslow will now embark on terrible and protracted revenge against Pintsize?
That would be sorta OOC for Winslow, I think. Maybe he'd force Pintsize to do a eulogy -- and promptly regret it, of course. ^_^
I loved glowy ecstatic Pintsize, and Marten's squicked expression in the last panel.
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The apple Extended Keyboard is nice, but throw ye down on an IBM Model M. I do so love an input device that can double as a melee weapon in a pinch.
http://www.preater.com/modelm/
yum.
That is the Keyboard To End All Keyboards.
Great tactile feel, and you could actually split a desk with them. The Mother of keyboards, it was.
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Jiminy..:(
I can't stop thinking Momo would be more useful to the singularity cause. With her paralyzing cuteness, ability to have opposable thumbs (when downloaded right), and her Zeusbolts, she would be UNSTOPPABLE.
Or perhaps that is why we haven't seen her yet?
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Raven >>>>>>>> Marigold. I actually kinda miss her and her hobo ex-boyfriend.
Agreed. I don't understand Marigold's appeal at all. Raven was a fun character, but I've always found Marigold to be a little depressing.
Raven is better for jokes, but Mari is more interesting as a character imho.
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I can't stop thinking Momo would be more useful to the singularity cause.
May be the social protocol database is incompatible with da singularity?
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When Hannelore foolishly stuffs Pintsize with too much RAM, Marten strikes Pintsize a good un' the back of the head, and the teeny terror spits the ramstick out (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=629). Where the RAM be, there be ye motherboard, me hearties! Although we be assumin' the wee monster's other ram be soldered on.
Not really contesting the location of the motherboard any longer, but since when did everything exiting thru the mouth necessarily originate from the head. Under ideal conditions may be, but...
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Raven is better for jokes, but Mari is more interesting as a character imho.
Well, Marigold has definitely been developed a lot more than Raven ever was despite Raven being in the strip for far longer. Like you say, Raven was a walking, talking set up for some easy jokes and she never really moved beyond that. But I don't think that should be held against Raven as a character. Pintsize hasn't been developed very far either, but he's still a valuable member of the cast. And I like them both more than Marigold, whose presence I usually (but certainly not always) find to be a drain on the comic.
Her drama/humor ratio is probably the lowest of all the main cast members.
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You make it sound like drama is a bad thing.
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When Hannelore foolishly stuffs Pintsize with too much RAM, Marten strikes Pintsize a good un' the back of the head, and the teeny terror spits the ramstick out (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=629). Where the RAM be, there be ye motherboard, me hearties! Although we be assumin' the wee monster's other ram be soldered on.
Remember when 1 gig was a lot? Heck, remember when 24 megs was a lot?
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When I bought my first personal computer, I went for the FULL MEGABYTE OF RAM. None of this 640 KB stuff.
And I went for the GIGANTIC 10 Megabyte hard drive, too.
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You make it sound like drama is a bad thing.
It is when they're The Bringer of Doom and The Bringer of Drama. Besides, as someone knowing people like Marigold and Raven, I'd definitely prefer to be around Raven over Marigold.
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I don't see why. Marigold is sweet, intelligent, has helped others on occasion, and we haven't seen enough of Raven at all to make a judgment. I've never understood the Marigold hate on this forum from some people.
:psyduck:
She's like the Kimiko Ross of the QC universe!
Only prettier.
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When I bought my first personal computer, I went for the FULL MEGABYTE OF RAM. None of this 640 KB stuff.
And I went for the GIGANTIC 10 Megabyte hard drive, too.
First mainframe computer I was paid to operate had 64K of memory and 10 megs of disk storage, It ws the size of two refrigerators side by side.
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I remember those, too. Honeywell H600 and a Honeywell H6000; although I was a mere user, not a sysadmin or anything important.
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When I bought my first personal computer, I went for the FULL MEGABYTE OF RAM. None of this 640 KB stuff.
And I went for the GIGANTIC 10 Megabyte hard drive, too.
Ooooh...
Mine had 1 K of RAM. Which, after some messy soldering, could be extended to 16K.
Storage? An old cassette recorder.
While I wasn't *paid* to operate or program it, the first computer I "had access to" was when I was in school, and... well, let me just say that "access to" was in the form of handing over a batch of punched cards, and we'd have to wait a week for the output. Made for some interesting debugging sessions. :D
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I remember the Mac Plus being touted as "capable of holding 1 full megabyte of RAM—all anyone would ever need." And I have a flash drive that holds 8 gb; in size and cost, it make my old Rodime 40 mb hard drive seem both gargantuan and hideously expensive.
When Hannelore foolishly stuffs Pintsize with too much RAM, Marten strikes Pintsize a good un' the back of the head, and the teeny terror spits the ramstick out (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=629). Where the RAM be, there be ye motherboard, me hearties! Although we be assumin' the wee monster's other ram be soldered on.
Not really contesting the location of the motherboard any longer, but since when did everything exiting thru the mouth necessarily originate from the head. Under ideal conditions may be, but...
You'd have to whack the body, or at least hit Pintsize from a different angle to get that chip we see to bounce up that teeny neck—if, indeed, it's possible. I mean, stuffing cake batter down that little hole is one thing; getting a chip on a rigid circuit-board to pop up that easily, another. On the other hand, if the RAM is in the head, Marten's blow would be about right to jar it loose and bounce it out.
Edit: the more I think about it, the more I wonder how Pintsize does get the batter down or even eat in the first place. I probably need to consign that to 'it's just a comic," though.
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You make it sound like drama is a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing. I couldn't read this comic at all if I thought that drama was a bad thing.
That being said, this is primarily a comedic comic. And even though a lot of the humor is derived from the drama there is such a thing as too much drama. Marigold is consistently a source of drama and rarely a source of comedy. Many of the other characters are just as dramatic as her, but they also provide far more laughs than she does (at least IMO).
I don't see why. Marigold is sweet, intelligent, has helped others on occasion, and we haven't seen enough of Raven at all to make a judgment. I've never understood the Marigold hate on this forum from some people.
It's not hate, at least not from me. But I do prefer other characters, such as Raven, to her. And I wouldn't mind at all if she were put on a long bus trip to Allosaurus Town.
That sounded mean.
Maybe I do hate her just a little.
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I remember the Mac Plus being touted as "capable of holding 1 full megabyte of RAM—all anyone would ever need." And I have a flash drive that holds 8 gb; in size and cost, it make my old Rodime 40 mb hard drive seem both gargantuan and hideously expensive.
I remember that awesome old thing. My first new PC was a Mac Plus! I can still remember when I upgraded its storage to a "massive" Apple HD20 and 4MB of SIMM RAM.
And it cost almost 3 grand, STOCK.
But oh, how I loved it.
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That being said, this is primarily a comedic comic. And even though a lot of the humor is derived from the drama there is such a thing as too much drama. Marigold is consistently a source of drama and rarely a source of comedy. Many of the other characters are just as dramatic as her, but they also provide far more laughs than she does (at least IMO).
I don't think she brings less comedy, it's just a different sort of comedy. The other characters most funny to me when they're self-aware. Marigold (and Dale, maybe?) is not self-aware and funny because of that.
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Of course, you all are assuming that the CPU and RAM reside on the motherboard.
Back in ye olde days of personal computing, the motherboard was a backplane. All it had was a bunch of slots. Then, one of the cards for that slot was the bus master (controlling all of the other slots,) and had your CPU. It might have also had RAM, and if you were really lucky, it also had I/O other than the slot interface.
I think Pintsize's body is a backplane, and his head like a card with a CPU, RAM, and minimal I/O. Note that it can be attached to the body in any position: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=465
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When I bought my first personal computer, I went for the FULL MEGABYTE OF RAM. None of this 640 KB stuff.
And I went for the GIGANTIC 10 Megabyte hard drive, too.
That was the same computer I had at my first job!
While I wasn't *paid* to operate or program it, the first computer I "had access to" was when I was in school, and... well, let me just say that "access to" was in the form of handing over a batch of punched cards, and we'd have to wait a week for the output. Made for some interesting debugging sessions. :D
Same here! We must be of a similar age...
The first PC I had was a Commodore 64, which was named for its 64K of Ram. Found the bumper sticker in my parent's basement a couple of years ago, "I adore my 64".
First mainframe computer I was paid to operate had 64K of memory and 10 megs of disk storage, It ws the size of two refrigerators side by side.
Got ya beat...
My dad was maintenance manager at the Carborundum abrasives plant in Niagra Falls. They were based there for the cheap electricity, making silicon carbide by running tens of thousands of volts through a pile of sand and ground coal. They had a 25-year-old UNIVAC from the early 50's controlling the voltage.
As maintenance head, my father decided it couldn't be supported anymore. He brought it home before he could find someone to take it. It came on a truck, and took up a bay in the garage, it was about the size and shape of a VW bus. I'm pretty sure it had all of 1 kilobyte (1000 words) of processing power, and the boot storage was a tape drive - punch tape, about 50 feet of it (we unspooled it to see). Output was directly connected to three large voltage regulators - you had to watch the meters to be sure it was running correctly!
We powered it up once. If you took off the side panel and turned out the lights, you could watch the relays arc in the dark...
It was replaced with a cupboard sized mainframe (this was still way before desktops) that had a VT100 to monitor the output. That decision alone saved the company thousands of dollars, making my dad a minor celebrity and the company's "tech geek"...
I tell this story as often as I can, young people (my students) just don't believe it. I'm not as old as celticgeek, but in my lifetime the developments have been mindboggling. This is the kind of accelleration that make people believe a singularity is "just around the corner". But really, it's pretty normal. My grandfather was born the year Henry Ford started making cars, and watched them develop all the way to the front wheel drive, fuel injected, computer controlled boxes of the 80's (he still preffered his caddy convertable with the fins). He used to tell me stories about his first car, with the crank start, the accellerator and "spark" levers on the steering column, and the brake lever between the driver and passenger, allowing my grandmother to stop the car if necessary!
And his grandfather peobably saw the development of guns from flintlocks to revolvers through the 1800s... technology always progresses whatever civilization thinks is important.
Plus ca change!
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I'm not as old as Celticgeek either, but I remember my great-grandmother, who was born in 1850 - so was already my age now when the First World War started, and then lived through the second and beyond.
The first two computers I used were both EELM KDF9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_KDF9)s... One was Oxford University's computer (yes, just the one), and the next was Culham Laboratory's (mentioned in that article).
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Of course, you all are assuming that the CPU and RAM reside on the motherboard.
Back in ye olde days of personal computing, the motherboard was a backplane. All it had was a bunch of slots. Then, one of the cards for that slot was the bus master (controlling all of the other slots,) and had your CPU. It might have also had RAM, and if you were really lucky, it also had I/O other than the slot interface.
I think Pintsize's body is a backplane, and his head like a card with a CPU, RAM, and minimal I/O. Note that it can be attached to the body in any position: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=465
You're likely correct. That comic, btw, makes me wonder even more how cake gets in the body. *whack* Or I would, if it weren't just a comic.
And how does he taste anything? *whackity whack* Sorry, I can't seem to help myself
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Tasting Stuff (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=212)
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Edit: the more I think about it, the more I wonder how Pintsize does get the batter down or even eat in the first place. I probably need to consign that to 'it's just a comic," though.
Not really an explanation, but #212 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=212) mentions that there's a holding tank in the torso. I guess maybe there's a channel or passageway down each of the tube-like attachment points for his head, hands, and feet (neck, arms, and legs)? Or maybe just the neck... unless you got in the habit of attaching his head to his arms, there's probably no good reason to make room for said channel other than because it'd be easier to manufacture neck-style appendages for everything.
Edit - Got beaten to it. Sort of.
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First mainframe computer I was paid to operate had 64K of memory and 10 megs of disk storage, It ws the size of two refrigerators side by side.
Got ya beat...
You have me beat, but at my second job they had an old top-of-the-line IBM 1401 with 16 K of memory we used to run payroll calculation program whose source code was lost, and so could not be ported to a more modern system. No disk at all, only tape, and the program was loaded from an object deck of cards, which had to be copied when worn because a new one could not be compiled. There was no console; input was via sense switch and display lights. By that time I was a supervisor, so I "delegated" that particular task...
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You make it sound like drama is a bad thing.
Okay, who pulled the drama tag?
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It's not hate, at least not from me. But I do prefer other characters, such as Raven, to her. And I wouldn't mind at all if she were put on a long bus trip to Allosaurus Town.
That sounded mean.
Maybe I do hate her just a little.
Jeph put her on a bus to Allosaurus University.
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So what will Faye do with this information about Sven?
Blow it off and enjoy her relationship with Angus. - 12 (22.6%)
Brood over it for weeks (years IRT). - 6 (11.3%)
Tell Dora, of course. - 8 (15.1%)
Go with Angus, but secretly pine for Sven. - 7 (13.2%)
Dump Angus and go back to Sven. For the sex. - 0 (0%)
Do something stupid to screw up her relationship with Angus. - 13 (24.5%)
Tell Gina Riversmith. - 3 (5.7%)
GOOGLE IT! - 3 (5.7%)
www.vespaavenger.com - 1 (1.9%)
Total Voters: 53
So we're pretty much split on things, it appears...
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First mainframe computer I was paid to operate had 64K of memory and 10 megs of disk storage, It ws the size of two refrigerators side by side.
Got ya beat...
...and the program was loaded from an object deck of cards, which had to be copied when worn because a new one could not be compiled. There was no console; input was via sense switch and display lights. By that time I was a supervisor, so I "delegated" that particular task...
Was there at least a card punch? Or did the poor intern have to sit there with a stylus and fresh cards?
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You guys are beating me hands down on old computer stories, but I share mine anyway. My first encounter was at the high school with a device that had 16k of memory, running a Basic interpreter, and you could turn its display to "B/W graphics mode" with a resolution of 72x60 pixels. A classmate coded a demo showing a space shuttle lift off (also a novel thing at the time). The only mass memory device on it was a tape deck. A C60 cassette would hold aplenty. I can still hear the bits sing as a 4kB game loaded up in only like 3 minutes. First year at college we had a line printer I/O access to the mainframe, but those were shortly afterwards replaced with VT52s. E-mail account? Got my first one on my second year at grad school. They had this splendid idea that your e-mail address consisted of your password to the local IBM mainframe followed with @nd.edu. You gave your e-mail address only to friends far away. After all, who else would need your e-mail address? Nobody thought this practice to carry any risks :roll:
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nd.edu - Notre Dame?
Oh, for the trusting days of the early internet, sending unencrypted passwords through telnet dial ups to check bulletin boards full of acsii porn art...
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Rule 34 was in effect even before there were personal computers.
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Purely for historical purposes (http://www.chris.com/ascii/index.php?art=people/naked%20ladies). (Probably still NSFW)
I recognize a bunch of these, actually. Had a few hanging in my room (c'mon, it was the 70's). One of them even has a header talking about the old 132 column printers with the folding paper that made the long nudes printable.
Damn, I'm feeling old now.
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Was there at least a card punch? Or did the poor intern have to sit there with a stylus and fresh cards?
029 and 129 keypunches, and a 1402 reader/punch attached to the system. The printer was a 1403 model 3, and could have produced the "art" linked to above, which was usually done with a card-to-print utility and an "appropriately-formatted" input deck.
We old-timers still refer to any 80-byte fixed length record as a "card". I haven't seen physical cards in use since 1985.
Nowadays, I'm not even allowed on raised floor.
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My cube is actually in a raised floor environment, but I don't do any server or mainframe work. (From what I hear, the room was built as a HUGE server room, and then things got downsized, so they put up a wall and made part of it office space. Then, things got downsized again, and relocated, so they put up yet another wall, making a tiny server room, with some office space and a large storage area.)
Oh, and telnet != dial-up. ;)
All of that said, the oldest computer I've directly used is probably something in the Apple II line. I have indirectly used a PDP-8/E (http://www.pdp8.net/run.shtml), however.
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Oh, and telnet != dial-up. ;)
Didn't say it was... I was dialing up to use telnet... :psyduck:
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While I wasn't *paid* to operate or program it, the first computer I "had access to" was when I was in school, and... well, let me just say that "access to" was in the form of handing over a batch of punched cards, and we'd have to wait a week for the output. Made for some interesting debugging sessions. :D
Same here! We must be of a similar age...
Could be. I'm 52. Ask me again in two months and the answer will be different.
The first PC I had was a Commodore 64, which was named for its 64K of Ram. Found the bumper sticker in my parent's basement a couple of years ago, "I adore my 64".
But then again, that 64k was including the ROM containing the OS and the development environment. :D
Mi first was (you prolly guessed this from the 1K memory size) a ZX-80. Soon to be superceded by a ZX-Spectrum.
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Well, you could always bank switch the ROM out. If you didn't want the OS or BASIC (or thought you could do a better job at the routines than Commodore did,) then you could load your stuff into RAM, and then bankswitch the ROM out, and get more RAM.
(Same trick for 64k on an Apple II, but smaller ROM, and there is still a 4k hole in the memory map that is for I/O, and can't be bankswitched out - the entire $C0-CF area.)
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Well, you could always bank switch the ROM out. If you didn't want the OS or BASIC (or thought you could do a better job at the routines than Commodore did,) then you could load your stuff into RAM, and then bankswitch the ROM out, and get more RAM.
(Same trick for 64k on an Apple II, but smaller ROM, and there is still a 4k hole in the memory map that is for I/O, and can't be bankswitched out - the entire $C0-CF area.)
Yup, I remember that. :)
And it didn't take the community long to fugure out that you could actually do a bank switch trick on the ZX Spectrum too. If only Sinclair would've used working ratherthan defective memory chips. So... people started to use working memory chips, and all of a sudden, the ZX Spectrum would have a whopping 128k RAM! How were we ever going to consume all that? ;)
Sinclair's reaction to this was the Spectrum 128k. ;D
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What was The Moment Of The Week?
Reprint of 258 (Milk Bath!) - 2 (8.7%)
You should try having an ACTUAL RELATIONSHIP. - 0 (0%)
Oh, God, that's actually TRUE. - 3 (13%)
My therapist won't see anyone else in my social circle. - 4 (17.4%)
Wait, you're seeing someone? - 0 (0%)
He misses your body (AUGH!) - 6 (26.1%)
Wow. I broke him. - 1 (4.3%)
Warning label under the boobs. - 3 (13%)
TAKE ME, OH OMNISCIENT MACHINE PANTHEON! - 3 (13%)
Mister Peepers! NOOOOOOOO! - 1 (4.3%)
Total Voters: 23
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You guys are beating me hands down on old computer stories, but I share mine anyway.
To all these old computer stories I say: "Looxury, bloody looxury!" My first computing device was a suànpán:
(http://www.chinavista.com/experience/abacus/suanpan.jpg) :-D
When, years later, I read Surely, You're Joking, Mr. Feynman! this anecdote (http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/abacus/feynman.html) struck a particular chord, although the Japanese gentleman in the story was probably using his country's soroban which differs significantly from the Chinese suanpan. There is a difference between being good at arithmetic, and understanding numbers, and there are pitfalls in relying too much on a machine. I enjoyed the story, and the book generally, so much that I'm prepared to forgive Feynman's unfortunate lapse into we/they thinking in the penultimate paragraph...
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Stop that. You're going to get someone to drag out his slide-rule stories, and then somebody's going to mention their bag of sticks, while someone's gonna haul out the old clay tablets he used back in Ur.
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Stop that. You're going to get someone to drag out his slide-rule stories, and then somebody's going to mention their bag of sticks, while someone's gonna haul out the old clay tablets he used back in Ur.
Oh. Never mind then...
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I am old enough to have used slide rules. I also taught slide rule for a couple of years.
And we should probably move this to a thread in the computer forum, entitled: The Old Geek's Bragging Thread (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25249.0.htmlhttp://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25249.0.html).
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When I was taught Algol 60 at university, the first week (of two) was on numerical methods - in which we did the exercises using a hand-cranked rotary calculator. It gave one a good appreciation of how much was going on during a computer's division instruction, and set me up for a career of specialising in extremely efficient coding.
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To all these old computer stories I say: "Looxury, bloody looxury!" My first computing device was a suànpán:
(http://www.chinavista.com/experience/abacus/suanpan.jpg) :-D
In these days of crashes, incompatibilities, and viruses, that is truly a computer you can count on.
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Meh, I still do most of it in my head.
And you've all seen how well that works...
(look down)
(No, not your lap, the sig)
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If only there were a well-endowed woman in the cast who was attracted to Sven and capable of surprising insights ...
I admit it, I just want Raven back.
Raven! Raven! Raven!