After last week, we deserve whatever the turkeys and/or Jeph decide to subject us to.
Can't beat the HANNELORE I LOVE YOOOOOOOOU turkey strip with the old guy.
Dora drinking herself into oblivion at Svens - for some reason, instead of polka-dotted ferrets, she gets half-naked Marigold.Yeah, but which half?
You realize, of course, that the turkeys are probably just going to make fun of this place for four or more panels.
Also someone brings a platypus into Coffee of Doom and it runs amok.
I have no ideas beyond this, but really, the idea speaks for itself, don't you think?
Scene:
Window of the aparment, seen from outside. Objects are being thrown from the window to the street below.
Zoom in next frame, it is all of DORA's stuff.
Next frame, just the window.
Next frame, inside the bedroom, Martin has Faye in a body-hold as she tries to light a Molotov Cocktail
"Damn it, Faye this is NOT helping!"
Maybe the short black skirts or spookypants would give it away. Or the striped tights.
No matter, the scenario gave me my first good laugh this week!
Martin has Faye in a body-hold as she tries to light a Molotov Cocktail "Damn it, Faye this is NOT helping!"Definite LOL! Which probably makes me a bad person.
ALL THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. ALL THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.
BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.
BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.
Proud Mary keeps on BURNING...
BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.
Proud Mary keeps on BURNING...Rollin'! Rollin'! Rollin on the river!!!!! :psyduck:
A nice beginning to the week... interesting to see how rational Marten seems at this point, Faye reacting as per expectation.Well, this seems to be the next morning rather than a direct continuation from 1800. Not only did Marten's door going "click" seemed like a pretty definitive "not going to talk now", but they're in the kitchen, and they've both changed clothes (well, Marten changed his T-shirt). They've had some time to sleep off the immediate emotions, which is probably why Marten's comparatively rational [Faye's angry because she's just found out the gory details, and so hasn't had time to metabolise the angry homones]
I notice Marten's wearing a black hoodie again. Did he break this?: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436)
I kinda like the idea that Faye woke up to the sound of glass breaking.
Man, Marten looks shredded. Poor bastard. I can see why he'd want to hold Faye back... no need for her to get involved... but I wonder if Faye's gonna bother with a poker face next time she sees Dora? I can easily see what Dora's response would be when she finds that Marten has pretty much immediately told Faye about their breakup conversation and the reason why. Probably something along the lines of, "So he opened up to you the second I dumped him. What a fuckin' surprise."
I notice Marten's wearing a black hoodie again. Did he break this?: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436)
I kinda like the idea that Faye woke up to the sound of glass breaking.
Ooooh, I like this.
One, he gets rid of something that reminds him of his relationship. Two, he gets to wear his french-fry hoodie again. Three, Faye gets to wake up to the sound of glass breaking.
BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.Om mane padme hum...
I notice Marten's wearing a black hoodie again. Did he break this?: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436)
I kinda like the idea that Faye woke up to the sound of glass breaking.
I kind of like the idea too, but it seems like it's probably the same hoodie he's had on since 1778. (I think at the time, Dora mentioned that he had a gazillion other black hoodies).
Maybe I'm getting a bad read on this, but it seems like Marten maybe gave Faye the shorthand of what happened, and it lost a little bit in translation. (sort of: "Dora broke up with me because she thinks we want to screw" vs. "Dora broke up with me because she thinks she's so crazy that she'll always believe we want to screw). If that's the case, I wonder what Faye will think of Dora's side of the story. I mean, I can't believe Faye would be all that more sympathetic to reasoning B over reasoning A, but it IS slightly less rabid batshit crazy.
Maybe I'm getting a bad read on this, but it seems like Marten maybe gave Faye the shorthand of what happened, and it lost a little bit in translation. (sort of: "Dora broke up with me because she thinks we want to screw" vs. "Dora broke up with me because she thinks she's so crazy that she'll always believe we want to screw). If that's the case, I wonder what Faye will think of Dora's side of the story. I mean, I can't believe Faye would be all that more sympathetic to reasoning B over reasoning A, but it IS slightly less rabid batshit crazy.Nah she wouldn't be any more sympathetic over reasoning B, and I doubt Marten told Faye reasoning A.
Faye is not an expert at controlling her anger.She has every right to be angry.
Then Hanners bursts in, shouts EVERYONE into behaving sensibly, and we return to comedy.
Jeph's strip proves that Marten/Faye are the OTP! They're MEANT to be together, even their little voices in their head say so! Dora's not being a broken/insane/idiotic person, she's bowing to the POWER OF TWU WUV!!!Although you made it quite clear you weren't serious it actually does exactly the opposite. Even I, who would surely rank among the most die-hard of Fayten shippers, must admit defeat. It sucks.
So what's up with Jeph's guest strip over at xkcd not having mouse-over text? It's an outrage, I tell you!
Since I forgot at the time, here's the alt text for the XKCD strip: "...So. Who's your daddy?"
Maybe I'm getting a bad read on this, but it seems like Marten maybe gave Faye the shorthand of what happened, and it lost a little bit in translation. (sort of: "Dora broke up with me because she thinks we want to screw" vs. "Dora broke up with me because she thinks she's so crazy that she'll always believe we want to screw). If that's the case, I wonder what Faye will think of Dora's side of the story. I mean, I can't believe Faye would be all that more sympathetic to reasoning B over reasoning A, but it IS slightly less rabid batshit crazy.Nah she wouldn't be any more sympathetic over reasoning B, and I doubt Marten told Faye reasoning A.
Maybe I'm getting a bad read on this, but it seems like Marten maybe gave Faye the shorthand of what happened, and it lost a little bit in translation. (sort of: "Dora broke up with me because she thinks we want to screw" vs. "Dora broke up with me because she thinks she's so crazy that she'll always believe we want to screw). If that's the case, I wonder what Faye will think of Dora's side of the story. I mean, I can't believe Faye would be all that more sympathetic to reasoning B over reasoning A, but it IS slightly less rabid batshit crazy.Nah she wouldn't be any more sympathetic over reasoning B, and I doubt Marten told Faye reasoning A.
I mean, I'm not saying that Marten set out to give Faye a bad impression ("And then she said you guys are jerks!"), but it's generally difficult to explain someone else's reasons for something, even when they're good reasons, and it's even harder when they're crazy reasons. I'm not sure that Faye, Marten, or Dora has a particularly good understanding of what's going on in Dora's head right now.
Expect mega awkwardness at CoD to come.I desire to see this. Not least because I wonder as to the shape of the fabled Malay Battle Spatula.
Or will it come to Broadsword V Malaysian Battle Spatula in the alley?
I'm not too sure about that - after all the times Dora's vocalized her insecurities about being Faye's second fiddle, I think Marten at least has a pretty good idea of what's going on. And there may well have been further talk after the Marten-in-the-headlights of 1799.
Also, we've no idea how long Marten has taken to explain what happened to Faye. I kinda doubt he'd give an overly simplified account of the situation, because that's something people usually only do if they a) come off looking bad when the full story's known, or b) don't truly understand what's going on. I think neither applies here.
Might just be me, but I doubt Marten really got any sleep last night (assuming this is the next morning). Aside from just being drained, he seems to have gone over this over and over again in his head, so he's come to accept the situation he was in when he closed the door last night.I think the rats, cokroaches and raccons leaving the site will be a dead giveaway... to get the f out!
I'm starting to wonder what's going on with Dora. She's probably going to be almost as much of a wreck as Marten when (if) she comes into work today. Faye's not only Marten's friend, she's also Dora's, and while she might be raring for a physical confrontation, Dora's appearance might push it back the other way.
Poor Penelope and Cosette. They have no idea of the black cloud that will descend upon their workspace this morn.
BIG WHEEL KEEPS ON TURNING.
Proud Mary keeps on BURNING...Rollin'! Rollin'! Rollin on the river!!!!! :psyduck:
Doo-wat dooo-do-doo!
Dooo-do-doo!
[horns]
Dun-na duunn!
Dun-na duunn!
Dun-na dun dun dun dun dun-na duunn!!!!
[/horns]
I only just noticed this, but....
... Faye says "What do I have to do to convince her I'm not pining for you?"
I'd have expected " "What do we have to do to convince her you're not pining for me?"
So how has Marten described it for her to react that way?
Also, please don't be mad but I forgot how to turn parts of texts into links. Could someone refresh me again? (gimme a break I haven't been on these forums very long!)
[url=http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=370]Number 370: So Slippery![/url] Yay comic.
Dont get it why Faye thinks its about her, though.
Dora; And why did you string him along, so long?
Faye: Because I was hoping to get past my issues and didn't want to lose ...
Dora looks at Faye tired
Faye: IDIOT! you had an example of what not to do.
I only just noticed this, but....
... Faye says "What do I have to do to convince her I'm not pining for you?"
I'd have expected " "What do we have to do to convince her you're not pining for me?"
So how has Marten described it for her to react that way?
Good catch. But I'm pretty sure the way Dora described it to Marten when she broke up with him (I'll always wonder if you'd rather be with Faye) is just the tip of the iceburg. We know for a fact Dora's also scared of Faye's feelings for Marten (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1059). In fact, it's probably that night Faye's thinking of when she says her line in panel one of tonight's comic. I don't think it has anything to do with how Marten described it; Faye's going off her own experiences too.
Also, please don't be mad but I forgot how to turn parts of texts into links. Could someone refresh me again? (gimme a break I haven't been on these forums very long!)
IS FAYE WHITAKER GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A BITCH, DORA?:-D
Your welcome.Your welcome, my welcome, any man's welcome.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Hanners made up her mind to cheer Marten up. No, I'm not shipping, I just mean simply and directly that she'd want him to be happy again. He's pretty much her first "real" friend, after all, and despite how much she likes Dora, she's much closer to him. I'm half-expecting her to show up sometime this week, armed with a worry hat and a cake, or something similar.
Jupp thank you, found out from reading this thread.Yay comic.
Dont get it why Faye thinks its about her, though.
Because, young padawan, it kind of is.
Then Hanners bursts in, shouts EVERYONE into behaving sensibly, and we return to comedy.
I love the XKCD guest strip. It's very XKCD and very Questionable Content.Panel 4: Faye Calls Hannermom.
Meanwhile QC, Gunnerkrigg Court and Penny & Aggie all continue to ship me SERIOUS DRAMA BUSINESS instead of light comedy. I am confused :psyduck:
What I'd like to see tomorrow would be 4 panels of Faye on the phone:
Panel 1: Faye calls Tai
"Tai, Marty broke up with Dora last night. He won't be in today. No Dora is not all yours now. Sure, joking. Bye"
Panel 2: Faye calls Steve
"Marty and Dora broke up, smarmosaur. Get over here. Bring beer."
Hangs up.
Panel 3: Faye calls Pene-lope
"Hi. Look, Dora broke up with Marty last night. I don't know if she'll be in. KEEP THE SWORD AWAY FROM HER IF SHE COMES IN. I'll be late."
Panel 4: Faye call ?
Punchline. Won't try to spoil the joke by guessing it :)
Then Hanners bursts in, shouts EVERYONE into behaving sensibly, and we return to comedy.
Actually, I fear that Hanners might get traumatized over the breakup. I mean, look at it like that, it was only recently that she had an experience that is even remotely related to going out with a guy, which was most likely like two weeks ago in QC time, and then two of her closest friends break up. This might give her the idea that "all relationships suck and will eventually break apart." Dora and Marten happen to be around when Hanners freaks out and comfort her that the relationship was great while it lasted. Then they realize it was true and decide to try again.
Next panel: Dora and Marten have make-up sex.
Last panel: Hanners for some reason has sex with Pintsize.
Edit: Also, does anyone notice Marten has dark circles around the eyes? Poor boy prolly didn't get much sleep last night.
I picture Marten curling up with French Fry hoodie at night, grumbling about how Dora never really appreciated its awesomeness. :-D
Then Hanners bursts in, shouts EVERYONE into behaving sensibly, and we return to comedy.
Actually, I fear that Hanners might get traumatized over the breakup. I mean, look at it like that, it was only recently that she had an experience that is even remotely related to going out with a guy, which was most likely like two weeks ago in QC time, and then two of her closest friends break up.
oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no #panicattack #sadfriends #everythingisawful #hashtags #aaa
Worse, Hanners hears the details, goes all post hoc ergo propter hoc and decides it's because she had a nice time with Sven.If she wants to get into some bizarre post hoc paranoia, surely she'd worry about it all having happened because she's a pokeslut (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1660). Just because Dora said she didn't mind...
It just kind of grates on my nerves that we've spent time so far portraying one person as The Bad Guy. If it was Marten I'd complain of the same. Maybe this'll change; knowing Jeph, it probably will. I'm just saying that so far, the comic is being rather unfair.
It just kind of grates on my nerves that we've spent time so far portraying one person as The Bad Guy. If it was Marten I'd complain of the same. Maybe this'll change; knowing Jeph, it probably will. I'm just saying that so far, the comic is being rather unfair.
I wholeheartedly agree with you that portraying one party of a breakup as the Bad Guy is uncalled for. Furthermore, it doesn't help the situation, because a Bad Guy-sticker carries with it some Blame, and blaming one party or the other of a problem facing a couple doesn't really help.
OTOH it might be best not to heat up this blame discussion again. There are now other threads discussing what would be best for Marten to do in the future, and other threads discussing what would be best for Dora. Look for them, and add your thoughts! The threads are shrouded with innuendo and attempts at humor, but genuine discussion is also taking place, and the exchanges are quite civil in comparison to last week's WCDT thread. (attempts at) humor is one of the mechanisms for dealing with the pain (mostly speaking for myself here).
Is it wrong to be amused by Martens world weary look as he said "Then you'd be fired and I'd be paying all the rent"
A very sad part of this whole situation is that Dora has, in effect, built her whole life around Marten's social circle. All of her employees are through Marten (exception: Penny- but where the hell is she?) Her apartment is Marten's (and Faye's- which is even more uncomfortable.) Taye is Marten's boss (which considering the future of their relationship could be very awkward.) Marigold might be free ground, but then again Angus is in Faye's corner and they are roommates. Think of how ostracized and "outsided" Sven was post-Faye- and he was only a fringe member to begin with. I wonder how this is going to work out for her.
I notice Marten's wearing a black hoodie again. Did he break this?: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1436)
I kinda like the idea that Faye woke up to the sound of glass breaking.
Well, this seems to be the next morning rather than a direct continuation from 1800. Not only did Marten's door going "click" seemed like a pretty definitive "not going to talk now", but they're in the kitchen, and they've both changed clothes (well, Marten changed his T-shirt). They've had some time to sleep off the immediate emotions, which is probably why Marten's comparatively rational [Faye's angry because she's just found out the gory details, and so hasn't had time to metabolize the angry hormones]
Oh dear, what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue,
Tell me, oh what can I do?
She thinks of him and so she dresses in black,
And though he'll never come back, she's dressed in black.
Oh dear, what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue,
Tell me, oh what can I do?
I think of her, but she thinks only of him,
And though it's only a whim, she thinks of him.
Oh how long will it take,
Till she sees the mistake she has made?
Dear what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue,
Tell me, oh what can I do?
Oh how long will it take,
Till she sees the mistake she has made?
Dear what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue,
Tell me, oh what can I do?
She thinks of him and so she dresses in black,
And though he'll never come back, she's dressed in black.
Oh dear, what can I do?
Baby's in black and I'm feeling blue,
Tell me, oh what can I do?
Faye is not an expert at controlling her anger.
I love the XKCD guest strip. It's very XKCD and very Questionable Content.
Meanwhile QC, Gunnerkrigg Court and Penny & Aggie all continue to ship me SERIOUS DRAMA BUSINESS instead of light comedy. I am confused :psyduck:
What I'd like to see tomorrow would be 4 panels of Faye on the phone:
Panel 1: Faye calls Tai
"Tai, Marty broke up with Dora last night. He won't be in today. No Dora is not all yours now. Sure, joking. Bye"
Panel 2: Faye calls Steve
"Marty and Dora broke up, smarmosaur. Get over here. Bring beer."
Hangs up.
Panel 3: Faye calls Pene-lope
"Hi. Look, Dora broke up with Marty last night. I don't know if she'll be in. KEEP THE SWORD AWAY FROM HER IF SHE COMES IN. I'll be late."
Panel 4: Faye call ?
Punchline. Won't try to spoil the joke by guessing it :)
Oh, I already called it. "Hi, Mrs. Vance?..."
Oh, I already called it. "Hi, Mrs. Vance?..."
I think you mean Ms. Reed.
Also, I can imagine Faye ringing up Steve & Angus to get them to give Marten some buddy support, with the second last panel a close up to Marten's phone as Faye searches through the phonebook, specifically the V section, to a certain Californian listing.
And unlike someone I know, I actually worked to GET PAST my issues!"
I love the XKCD guest strip. It's very XKCD and very Questionable Content.
Meanwhile QC, Gunnerkrigg Court and Penny & Aggie all continue to ship me SERIOUS DRAMA BUSINESS instead of light comedy. I am confused :psyduck:
Your welcome.Your welcome, my welcome, any man's welcome.
Pretty sure Faye will call her Ms. Reed 'til the end of time, unless she personally corrects Faye, again, what with the intimidation and the Bosch-threats.
Also, Vance is her stage pseudonym, so I doubt she uses that in public, unless she's at a fetish convention or something.
I love the XKCD guest strip. It's very XKCD and very Questionable Content.Panel 4: Faye Calls Hannermom.
Meanwhile QC, Gunnerkrigg Court and Penny & Aggie all continue to ship me SERIOUS DRAMA BUSINESS instead of light comedy. I am confused :psyduck:
What I'd like to see tomorrow would be 4 panels of Faye on the phone:
Panel 1: Faye calls Tai
"Tai, Marty broke up with Dora last night. He won't be in today. No Dora is not all yours now. Sure, joking. Bye"
Panel 2: Faye calls Steve
"Marty and Dora broke up, smarmosaur. Get over here. Bring beer."
Hangs up.
Panel 3: Faye calls Pene-lope
"Hi. Look, Dora broke up with Marty last night. I don't know if she'll be in. KEEP THE SWORD AWAY FROM HER IF SHE COMES IN. I'll be late."
Panel 4: Faye call ?
Punchline. Won't try to spoil the joke by guessing it :)
Punchline: "Everything's in place; now's your chance." *gendo smile*
Pretty sure Faye will call her Ms. Reed 'til the end of time, unless she personally corrects Faye, again, what with the intimidation and the Bosch-threats.
Also, Vance is her stage pseudonym, so I doubt she uses that in public, unless she's at a fetish convention or something.
She may be listed under Vance in the phone book, but you really don't want to be calling her business number.
Unless you're into that kind of thing...
"At the sound of the tone, say your safe word. Then hang up, because I don't want to hear another word lisp out of your disgusting mouth, you worthless sack of..."
Well, you get the idea.
I think you mean Ms. Reed.Apparently she prefers Miss. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=433)
A very sad part of this whole situation is that Dora has, in effect, built her whole life around Marten's social circle. All of her employees are through Marten (exception: Penny- but where the hell is she?)The awkward overlapping social circle thing is valid enough, but actually Faye worked at the CoD (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=10) before she introduced Marten to Dora (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=75).
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Hanners made up her mind to cheer Marten up. No, I'm not shipping, I just mean simply and directly that she'd want him to be happy again. He's pretty much her first "real" friend, after all, and despite how much she likes Dora, she's much closer to him. I'm half-expecting her to show up sometime this week, armed with a worry hat and a cake, or something similar.
I also wonder what Marten's plan for the day is. Pity we don't know what day it is in the QC-niverse... or, for that matter, what Marten's work schedule is. Here's hoping he has the day off work today, or at least has the sense to call in sick otherwise. Guy doesn't look in any shape to go out right now, least of all to the library where girls are apparently hitting on him at all times, and he'd probably notice it now. Not that it would cheer him up in the slightest, which is why I hope he stays away.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Hanners made up her mind to cheer Marten up. No, I'm not shipping, I just mean simply and directly that she'd want him to be happy again. He's pretty much her first "real" friend, after all, and despite how much she likes Dora, she's much closer to him. I'm half-expecting her to show up sometime this week, armed with a worry hat and a cake, or something similar.
I also wonder what Marten's plan for the day is. Pity we don't know what day it is in the QC-niverse... or, for that matter, what Marten's work schedule is. Here's hoping he has the day off work today, or at least has the sense to call in sick otherwise. Guy doesn't look in any shape to go out right now, least of all to the library where girls are apparently hitting on him at all times, and he'd probably notice it now. Not that it would cheer him up in the slightest, which is why I hope he stays away.
And just think, more than 50% of the people reading this are seeing Hanners naked and sweatily 'cheering' Marten up. Which would be theta) Massively Out Of Character, and gamma) Wouldn't Work.
I know I'm in the minority, but this is starting to irritate me.
Okay, yes, Dora went all psycho on Marten. Yes, she broke up with him because of unfounded issues. And yes, it was rather unfair that she seemed to stay static instead of trying a little harder to change herself. But dammit, there are TWO people in a relationship. TWO. Why are we spending so much time focusing on what a screw up Dora is? The comic seems to be bolding, italicizing, and underlining how crazy and stupid Dora was to break up with Marten, and so far there aren't any suggestions of Marten's mistakes. Someone mentioned in the last thread, for example, that Marten merely seemed to tolerate Dora's insecurities rather than actively try to allay them. He overreacted pretty heavily over the porn thing due to holding in his rage for too long. Where's the mention of that?
It just kind of grates on my nerves that we've spent time so far portraying one person as The Bad Guy. If it was Marten I'd complain of the same. Maybe this'll change; knowing Jeph, it probably will. I'm just saying that so far, the comic is being rather unfair.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if Hanners made up her mind to cheer Marten up. No, I'm not shipping, I just mean simply and directly that she'd want him to be happy again. He's pretty much her first "real" friend, after all, and despite how much she likes Dora, she's much closer to him. I'm half-expecting her to show up sometime this week, armed with a worry hat and a cake, or something similar.
I also wonder what Marten's plan for the day is. Pity we don't know what day it is in the QC-niverse... or, for that matter, what Marten's work schedule is. Here's hoping he has the day off work today, or at least has the sense to call in sick otherwise. Guy doesn't look in any shape to go out right now, least of all to the library where girls are apparently hitting on him at all times, and he'd probably notice it now. Not that it would cheer him up in the slightest, which is why I hope he stays away.
And just think, more than 50% of the people reading this are seeing Hanners naked and sweaty 'cheering' Marten up. Which would be theta) Massively Out Of Character, and gamma) Wouldn't Work.
I'm sure her own son doesn't call her Mrs. Vance. That'd be.....weird. My mother is listed as "MOM" in my cellphone.
And just think, more than 50% of the people reading this are seeing Hanners naked and sweaty 'cheering' Marten up. Which would be theta) Massively Out Of Character, and gamma) Wouldn't Work.
Hanners counted slowly to herself the number of [redacted], watching Marten with inquisitive eyes.
"Wait, wait, you can't before you hit a prime number," she cried, breathless. She would have to do something to make sure Marten [redacted] in the next couple of moments otherwise it would be all for naught...
:evil:
Marten is the spikey haired hero though, so of course we have to think of him as Hipster Jesus.I think of him as Hipster Buddha :wink:
Hanners counted slowly to herself the number of [redacted], watching Marten with inquisitive eyes.
"Wait, wait, you can't before you hit a prime number," she cried, breathless. She would have to do something to make sure Marten [redacted] in the next couple of moments otherwise it would be all for naught...
:evil:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/alone.png)
Panel 4: Faye call ?
Punchline. Won't try to spoil the joke by guessing it :)
Jeph's strip proves that Marten/Faye are the OTP! They're MEANT to be together, even their little voices in their head say so! Dora's not being a broken/insane/idiotic person, she's bowing to the POWER OF TWU WUV!!!Although you made it quite clear you weren't serious it actually does exactly the opposite. Even I, who would surely rank among the most die-hard of Fayten shippers, must admit defeat. It sucks.
And just think, more than 50% of the people reading this are seeing Hanners naked and sweaty 'cheering' Marten up. Which would be theta) Massively Out Of Character, and gamma) Wouldn't Work.
I wouldn't rub Marten's belly though, he's so skinny you'd probably feel his spine :xMarten is the spikey haired hero though, so of course we have to think of him as Hipster Jesus.I think of him as Hipster Buddha :wink:
I only wonder if the Vespavenger will make a return after all this.
Tequila Monster definitely should.
Actually, the French-Fry hoodie's pockets inexplicably disappear in the last panel there. Maybe it's some sort of hoodie-shapeshifter.Oh noes! It's the Venom symbiont!
I only wonder if the Vespavenger will make a return after all this.
Tequila Monster definitely should.
While I'd like the return of either, I wonder if we're still in that sort of universe where things can get extra ridiculous. The lines between our universe and the QC-verse are becoming more blurred. Not a positive or negative, just an observation.
then Venom+pissed off indie nerd = ?
Admit it, you want to see Marten walking down the street in full douche-hipster regalia, hair down over his face, thrusting his hips at passing ladies.then Venom+pissed off indie nerd = ?
Kinda obvious isn't it? The answer would be Tobey Maguire..... And I think I threw up a little bit at that thought....
Admit it, you want to see Marten walking down the street in full douche-hipster regalia, hair down over his face, thrusting his hips at passing ladies.then Venom+pissed off indie nerd = ?
Kinda obvious isn't it? The answer would be Tobey Maguire..... And I think I threw up a little bit at that thought....
God, Spiderman 3 was terrible. Most wasted two hours of my life.
Admit it, you want to see Marten walking down the street in full douche-hipster regalia, hair down over his face, thrusting his hips at passing ladies.
God, Spiderman 3 was terrible. Most wasted two hours of my life.
Admit it, you want to see Marten walking down the street in full douche-hipster regalia, hair down over his face, thrusting his hips at passing ladies.
The only downside to actually getting Dora the help she needs is that this won't go anywhere interesting and she and Marten will be back together by year's end.
I wonder if Faye intended to hug Dora, or to prevent her escaping from the therapist suggestion.Oh, the latter. That's not the way you hug someone - she's trying to stop her wriggling out...
I like that Faye told Dora "I would like to hurt you but Marty asked me not to" so this way Dora knows Faye is pissed off.I'm hearing panels 3 & 4 in a very low, angry, threatening voice. Especially panel 3. I think that part was for Faye's benefit rather than Dora's.
I wonder if Faye intended to hug Dora, or to prevent her escaping from the therapist suggestion.Oh, the latter. That's not the way you hug someone - she's trying to stop her wriggling out...I like that Faye told Dora "I would like to hurt you but Marty asked me not to" so this way Dora knows Faye is pissed off.I'm hearing panels 3 & 4 in a very low, angry, threatening voice. Especially panel 3. I think that part was for Faye's benefit rather than Dora's.
No, we will not write fanfic.But Marigold will.
Or at least, I won't
Well....there goes my prediction of Faye going to Dora to relate how shitty it feels to have to give up Marten. :-(
Actually, the French-Fry hoodie's pockets inexplicably disappear in the last panel there. Maybe it's some sort of hoodie-shapeshifter.
The only downside to actually getting Dora the help she needs is that this won't go anywhere interesting and she and Marten will be back together by year's end.
Well....there goes my prediction of Faye going to Dora to relate how shitty it feels to have to give up Marten. :-(
Huh, guess I was half right! But, is QC going to end with EVERY character in therapy? :roll:
Oh, and by the way, guys. Faye's eyes in the final panel. Look closely. Lower eye glare/shimmer.
She's getting misty-eyed or something.
Well at least the whole house isn't at war back at Marten's place. Gonna be sad when Dora moves her stuff out- Maybe Angus will move in and take her spot( as the third resident, he'd be with Faye obviously :) .
I'm really interested to see if Sven comes into the picture with any input.
Praise for Faye justified, certainly, but Dora is now having the healthiest and most appropriate reaction she can right now.
As for Marten and Dora getting back together, I suspect that a new character is going to be introduced that helps him get over the breakup, and Dora will get her head on straight too late for them to get back together.
Yes, but what kind of crippling emotional and/or mental hurdles will the new girl have to deal with?Well, let's see. The ladies of QC tick boxes for OCD (Hannelore), trust issues and pathological self-sabotaging (Dora), intimacy issues and possibly post-traumatic stress disorder with anxiety and depression on top (Faye), idiot-savancy (Raven), low self-esteem and terminal shyness (Marigold), good old-fashioned neurotic crazyness (Penelope), possible fear of commitment and/or monogamy sprinkled with an extra dose of heterosexual-vs-homosexual drama (Tai)... and that doesn't even bring in Cosette's apparent curse, Nathasha's lack of hygiene, Ellen's poor method of dumping Steve, Amanda Whittaker's rebelling against her mother, or any of the potential issues facing parents or one-off characters.
I'm not at all down on how the comic's being written right now, Jeph does a damn good job. But I find it weird the idea you need to see a therapist to work through your issues. It can help, but you have to do the work yourself (work Dora may or may not have been doing because it's impossible to show it) and there is no reason to assume leaving your partner is "giving up". Getting yourself out of a harmful cycle, no matter how it hurts, can be a form of helping yourself, so you can stop being self-destructive.
And I wish we wouldn't talk about "getting over issues" like it's a black and white thing. It's not. Issues almost never go away; they are managed. And paranoia/jealousy, while fucking hard to deal with, is hardly a huge issue in the greater scheme of things. I honestly think people do not understand how common it is to have "issues", from basic ongoing insecurity right through to full blown PTSD, and you can't presume someone doesn't have any because they can present as "normal" during day to day life.
Edit to add: Jesus Christ! People do not have to jump straight from one relationship to another, wth people?! And I would be deeply unimpressed if Jeph used a commonly demonised form of mental illness as a running gag - not that I would expect him to, but that is not a fun suggestion.
I honestly think people do not understand how common it is to have "issues", from basic ongoing insecurity right through to full blown PTSD, and you can't presume someone doesn't have any because they can present as "normal" during day to day life.
I would post something about the comic, but I just got done rewatching the Lost series, and the only thought I can formulate of it all is WHAT THE BLOODY HELL DOES IT ALL MEAN??!!!
*head asplode*
No one predicted this, AFAIK, yet no one's particularly surprised.
Speaking as someone who is making a career of providing psychiatric therapy, I think people are often far to quick to run to a therapist.Believe me, that is much better than the other way around.
Such progress from Faye. Jeph still knows his characters better than we do. No one predicted this, AFAIK, yet no one's particularly surprised.Its his job. :-P I'm not taking over Jephs job ! :-o Believe me, the artwork would suck so much you'll go clear your eyes. :wink: With acid ! :|
Everyone has issues. It's a part of being human.
And most people don't need therapy to deal with their issues.
However, when your issues cause you to sabotage a relationship that you want to have, or causes problems with work or family, or causes you to harm yourself or others, you probably need some help working through them.
I wouldn't rub Marten's belly though, he's so skinny you'd probably feel his spine :xMarten is the spikey haired hero though, so of course we have to think of him as Hipster Jesus.I think of him as Hipster Buddha :wink:
Judging by those last two panels, you'd think somebody died.
hiyoooo :DI wouldn't rub Marten's belly though, he's so skinny you'd probably feel his spine :xYou mean he has one?
OHMYGOD 5 PAGES BY MONDAY THA WORDDL IS GOING TO END IN NEED TO RPEORT THIS.
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I would post something about the comic, but I just got done rewatching the Lost series, and the only thought I can formulate of it all is WHAT THE BLOODY HELL DOES IT ALL MEAN??!!!
*head asplode*
Catharsis. Dora had been cryin' before at Svens (kleenex on the couch), but that was with the upset of what she felt she had to do, with the sadness of ending it.
No one predicted this, AFAIK, yet no one's particularly surprised.
QFT.
OHMYGOD 5 PAGES BY MONDAY THA WORDDL IS GOING TO END IN NEED TO RPEORT THIS.
:psyduck:
Thanks, I needed that! :laugh:
I would add, due to personal experience, that those who have been actively dealing with their issues for a year or two, including talking about them with friends, and those issues have still not subsided, get help. Drop the pride and get some therapy. You can only build so high when the ground is quicksand. ;) When your brain chemistry is an underlying problem, you can only do so much work on your personality. Work on it anyway, yes, but get help too.
Speaking as someone who is making a career of providing psychiatric therapy, ...Are you anywhere near Canada?
Today's comic made me cry.
I am a little embarrassed.
Oh good. :) However, I am currently in class, so it was a little awkward.Today's comic made me cry.
I am a little embarrassed.
Don't be. There's been a few over this past week or so that've activated my allergies.
Faye just took a level in Awesome.
Seriously, this might all of a sudden be one of my favourite "Character" moments in the entire strip. Faye's her usual, bitchy, abrasive self... but God damn, she's a good friend too.
Fantastic writing, Jeph.
Faye just took a level in Awesome.
Seriously, this might all of a sudden be one of my favourite "Character" moments in the entire strip. Faye's her usual, bitchy, abrasive self... but God damn, she's a good friend too.
Fantastic writing, Jeph.
I have to agree, even if Faye is completely wasting her effort.
I have to agree, even if Faye is completely wasting her effort.
I'm sorry, I didn't quite get it. Does Faye waste her effort (in that case: why? She's bein' a good friend to both and stuff, maybe it will go into the right direction) or did you mean, it's great even if it doesn't lead to anything? I don't mean to criticize, I'm just having difficulties with the English language.
Well....there goes my prediction of Faye going to Dora to relate how shitty it feels to have to give up Marten. :-(
Huh, guess I was half right! But, is QC going to end with EVERY character in therapy? :roll:
Is therapy the answer? In my mind, therapy is pretty much the last resort - a therapist helps you deal with something so huge you can't live a normal life without it.
Does a therapist need to deal with situational paranoia and a little low self-esteem?
Is therapy the answer? In my mind, therapy is pretty much the last resort - a therapist helps you deal with something so huge you can't live a normal life without it.
Does a therapist need to deal with situational paranoia and a little low self-esteem?
But is it neccessary to go to a therapist over "the smallest hangups"? Seems like a waste of a busy professional's time to me.
Is therapy the answer? In my mind, therapy is pretty much the last resort - a therapist helps you deal with something so huge you can't live a normal life without it.
Does a therapist need to deal with situational paranoia and a little low self-esteem?
But is it neccessary to go to a therapist over "the smallest hangups"? Seems like a waste of a busy professional's time to me.
Is therapy the answer? In my mind, therapy is pretty much the last resort - a therapist helps you deal with something so huge you can't live a normal life without it.To answer your hypotheticals, no. The reason being is that everyone goes through the same things. It may not be all the time, but all people have issues. Everyone can get depressed and everyone can get a little paranoid. I doubt that therapy is going to help Dora much because, what is a therapist going to tell her that she does not already know?
Does a therapist need to deal with situational paranoia and a little low self-esteem?
But is it neccessary to go to a therapist over "the smallest hangups"? Seems like a waste of a busy professional's time to me.Well, speaking as a "busy professional" though not a therapist, when you are working with a client and helping to improve their life, there is no such thing as a waste of time. I have never gone to therapy myself, but I believe that therapy never hurts. And if something can do no harm, and has the potential to work positive change in your life, and you can afford it, why wouldn't you go? All therapy represents is an impartial person, with a deep understanding of human social interaction who helps you constructively address problems in your life. It's definitely not just for people with a DIAGNOSIS.
I know what therapy is. What comic's forum do you think I'm in?
I was raised Working Class, so I feel that spending money - a lot of money - on something you can solve yourself is wasteful.
If someone can't come out of their shell easily, maybe they should just try harder. I tend to be reserved, but I can still have fun in social situations if I relax.
I know what therapy is. What comic's forum do you think I'm in?
I was raised Working Class, so I feel that spending money - a lot of money - on something you can solve yourself is wasteful. If someone can't come out of their shell easily, maybe they should just try harder. I tend to be reserved, but I can still have fun in social situations if I relax.
I'm not saying nobody should get therapy. Jesus, man, look at the first post I made ITT.
I just don't think it's neccessary as often as amny people think it is neccessary. Solving one's own problems is often more efficient than professional therapy/drugs/etc. because one has the knowledge that one can stand up for oneself.
ok people, knock it off a little, make a new thread about therapy, and discuss it over there. Try to not to repeat last week's errors.
Woa, i sound way too harsh! but i think that therapy effectiveness is not something to talk in the Weekly Comic Discussions? ehr, what i meant was that try to not taking it too far... ehr... i don't know, have a psyduck. :psyduck:
Eh, while I disagree with non-moderators assuming the role, it's understandable. I thought the problem with the last topic centered on people attacking and reporting the posts of others, not necessarily that it just went off-topic.
I'm disappointed, really. I was hoping to see Dora on the receiving end of some of the medicine she brought to Sven.
Faye splits the difference between empathy and rage.No kidding.
ok people, knock it off a little, make a new thread about therapy, and discuss it over there. Try to not to repeat last week's errors.
Woa, i sound way too harsh! but i think that therapy effectiveness is not something to talk in the Weekly Comic Discussions? ehr, what i meant was that try to not taking it too far... ehr... i don't know, have a psyduck. :psyduck:
Eh, while I disagree with non-moderators assuming the role, it's understandable.
ok people, knock it off a little, make a new thread about therapy, and discuss it over there. Try to not to repeat last week's errors.
Woa, i sound way too harsh! but i think that therapy effectiveness is not something to talk in the Weekly Comic Discussions? ehr, what i meant was that try to not taking it too far... ehr... i don't know, have a psyduck. :psyduck:
Eh, while I disagree with non-moderators assuming the role, it's understandable.
i don't quite like it either. But you know what the say, better to prevent than to breast-feed.
2. "Buddies" are around when times are good. "Friends" are around when times are bad. [sadly I do not recall who said this :-( ]"A Friend at need is a Friend indeed" is at least 2300 years old; in the 3rd century BC. Quintus Ennius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ennius) came up with 'Amicu certus in re incerta cernitur' which means (free translation) "you'll know who your real friends are when you're in trouble."
Hanners is getting fixed, Dora is getting fixed.
Soon everyone will be so normal, they'll have to sit around making hipster music jokes again.
And how much will THAT suck, soap opera fans?
</kidding>
Being brought to tears might indicate that she agrees with Faye, or it might indicate she strongly disagrees or it might just indicate she felt like crying. She is a woman after all.I don't even know what to say to that. I am desperately hoping this is a bit of trolling, and terribly afraid it isn't. Oh, those hysterical wimmins, always with the emotions.
1. Panel #6: Is it me, or are Faye's eyes also welling up alongside Dora's *sob*?
3. I am relieved to see that we are dealing with "aftermath" rather than "fallout" of The Break-Up (hopefully most will undertand the difference between the two).
Take note, Marten. It's entirely possible to tell someone you're angry with them and be supportive of them at the same time. Y'know, rather than repressing it until you explode.
I think this just might be Faye's crowning moment of awesome.Being brought to tears might indicate that she agrees with Faye, or it might indicate she strongly disagrees or it might just indicate she felt like crying. She is a woman after all.I don't even know what to say to that. I am desperately hoping this is a bit of trolling, and terribly afraid it isn't. Oh, those hysterical wimmins, always with the emotions.
I think this just might be Faye's crowning moment of awesome.
Aftermath is the pile of books and papers on the desk leftover from studying math. Fallout is when you knock the pile over...
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Aftermath is the pile of books and papers on the desk leftover from studying math. Fallout is when you knock the pile over...
:angel:
No, Fall Out is something the American military does when the parade is finished.
1. YOU ARE NOT. GOING. TO GET. MY WCT LOCKED. FOR A SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK.
2. A "minor hangup" is NOT what Dora's dealing with right now. SHE SABOTAGED A RELATIONSHIP over trust issues. That is "minor" in the way the constellation Ursa Minor is "minor".
3. I still can't quite tell if Dora's crying out of fear or realization. I don't think it really matters, though.
Well, personally, I'm convinced that Dr Corinne has orchestrated most of the drama of QC in order to get more work.
Neither. She's been afraid for such a long time.
I think it's relief.
I think it could be relief and acknowledgment (or realization, as jwhouk stated). Relief that her good friend understands, and acknowledgment that she needs help.
1. YOU ARE NOT. GOING. TO GET. MY WCT LOCKED. FOR A SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK.
I would dearly love to know who did the reporting that caused the thread to be locked.
Something I just remembered -- didn't Faye specifically tell Sven that Dr. Corrine/Corinne/whatever stated she wouldn't take any more of Faye's friends as clients?
Take note, Marten. It's entirely possible to tell someone you're angry with them and be supportive of them at the same time. Y'know, rather than repressing it until you explode.
I think this just might be Faye's crowning moment of awesome.Being brought to tears might indicate that she agrees with Faye, or it might indicate she strongly disagrees or it might just indicate she felt like crying. She is a woman after all.I don't even know what to say to that. I am desperately hoping this is a bit of trolling, and terribly afraid it isn't. Oh, those hysterical wimmins, always with the emotions.
Something I just remembered -- didn't Faye specifically tell Sven that Dr. Corrine/Corinne/whatever stated she wouldn't take any more of Faye's friends as clients?
Faye said she was going to get a reference from Dr. Corrine. By that she meant Dr. Corrine was going to write a reference letter for Dora to get an appointment with another therapist.
(Wooooooooooo go and get the thread locked guys I want to see what jw's face looks like distended in absolute rage)
So what're the odds that we're done with 'plot' comics for the week, and we're staring down three days of Turkeys/Yelling Bird?
So what're the odds that we're done with 'plot' comics for the week, and we're staring down three days of Turkeys/Yelling Bird?
0.
Yes, Faye, that is what friends are for.
You have grown so much since meeting Marten.
I think that this is one of those strips where we can just sit back, and think "Look how far Faye has come." In many ways I think this shows a very powerful reversal of relationships here. Faye has moved past her own problems, and now it's time for her to help Dora solve hers.
This is the relief of knowing another person cares enough about you to help.
I was assuming the Faye was going to get Dr Corrie to recommend somebody else.
You only hurt the ones you love...
But sometimes I wonder if I would consider someone who threatens me with violence a friend. Being forced into something isn't alot of fun.Methinks you should learn to read between the lines. Faye's violence threats are metafayesical. If she would've meant any real harm, Dora would've been in very many very tiny fragments on the floor by now.
FUCK YEAH FAYE
Jesus, Faye really has worked hard on her issues. Chick is working on becoming my favorite character, because she would never have done this at the beginning of the strip. You are a true baller, Faye Whitaker. I would high-five you if you were not fictional. I should high-five Jeph if I ever see him at a con or some shit.
Aiiiiight gonna check out before the dramavasion proceedeth apace.
(Wooooooooooo go and get the thread locked guys I want to see what jw's face looks like distended in absolute rage)
Having said that...
YAY OMG MARTEN AND FAYE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN NAAAAOOOOOWWWW!!!!
i mean we haven't had as many context clues that point to THAT, necessarily, but come on, do we really need any? throughout the entire series, jeph has been hinting, whether he realizes it or not, or even intended for it, at some serious tension of the sexual sort between faye and marten. personally i think faye would be PERFECT for marten.
there's my $0.02
throughout the entire series, jeph has been hinting, whether he realizes it or not, or even intended for it, at some serious tension of the sexual sort between faye and marten
"So help me [gawd] I will put you in the emergency room." Was what Faye said. I didn't think it was a euphemism. I could be wrong. I get the impression Faye has some pretty violent impulses sometimes.But sometimes I wonder if I would consider someone who threatens me with violence a friend. Being forced into something isn't alot of fun.Methinks you should learn to read between the lines. Faye's violence threats are metafayesical. If she would've meant any real harm, Dora would've been in very many very tiny fragments on the floor by now.
And yes, Faye definitely has come a looong way. As Jeph says, she's split the difference between rage and empathy (maybe even realising that rage is often caused by empathy... if you didn't care, you'd probably not get upset in the first place).
Oh and just a random though. Dora's counselor should be the guy from the Geico commercials.
Neither did I. I thought it was a metaphor."So help me [gawd] I will put you in the emergency room." Was what Faye said. I didn't think it was a euphemism.But sometimes I wonder if I would consider someone who threatens me with violence a friend. Being forced into something isn't alot of fun.Methinks you should learn to read between the lines. Faye's violence threats are metafayesical. If she would've meant any real harm, Dora would've been in very many very tiny fragments on the floor by now.
Neither did I. I thought it was a metaphor."So help me [gawd] I will put you in the emergency room." Was what Faye said. I didn't think it was a euphemism.But sometimes I wonder if I would consider someone who threatens me with violence a friend. Being forced into something isn't alot of fun.Methinks you should learn to read between the lines. Faye's violence threats are metafayesical. If she would've meant any real harm, Dora would've been in very many very tiny fragments on the floor by now.
Now I see where Jeph was going with all this. Time for some HAWT Dora on Faye action. Let it all out Dora, tell Faye how you really feel!
Now I see where Jeph was going with all this. Time for some HAWT Dora on Faye action. Let it all out Dora, tell Faye how you really feel!
So, what are the chances of somebody writing a BDSM slashfic about how Dora doesn't go to therapy and Faye subsequently beats the shit out of her. Dora realizes she enjoys that.
YAY OMG MARTEN AND FAYE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN NAAAAOOOOOWWWW!!!!
i mean we haven't had as many context clues that point to THAT, necessarily, but come on, do we really need any? throughout the entire series, jeph has been hinting, whether he realizes it or not, or even intended for it, at some serious tension of the sexual sort between faye and marten. personally i think faye would be PERFECT for marten.
Also does Marten still want Faye?Probably not right now, but given a month or two? I'd say yeah, but what the hell do I know. I'd say yeah based on the whole comic up until about 150 strips ago, but then huge chunks of character history were casually tossed out the window in favour of new and more interesting plotlines.
Probably not right now, but given a month or two? I'd say yeah, but what the hell do I know. I'd say yeah based on the whole comic up until about 150 strips ago, but then huge chunks of character history were casually tossed out the window in favour of new and more interesting plotlines.
Anyway, as much as I might want it, that avenue won't be explored any time soon if ever.
Am I the only one who tried to predict Tai's eventual reaction to Dora being single? Hopefully she can keep her pants on until Dora is stable. Doing it now would be like humping a nuclear rocket.Hmm... naaaaah. I think Tai talks a mean game, but she'd never actually cross that line. Just look at how (is "kind" the word I want?) she was to Marigold. Tai's a tease, and if she recieved a genuine offer she might take it, but I honestly can't see her sweeping in from the sidelines unless Dora makes the first move.
Disagree completely.Disagree about the comic breaking character for various folk? Well, that's fine. Everybody is going to have an opinion. The cool thing about them is it doesn't matter worth a damn if yours and mine are different. It's OK for me to have mine, and OK for you to have yours. :-)
...Don't think I even need to say why. It's been gone over like ten times in the last week.
How much, exactly, does Angus McPhee know of the history between those two? I mean he obviously knows some of it, and he's talked about it with Marten when they were being oh-so-very-fancy. But he may not know all the details. And if he finds out that Dora - who looks perfectly balanced and sane from the outside - had a breakdown and ended her relationship with Marten because she doesn't think she can trust him with Faye? I wonder what thoughts will go though Angus' mind.That could be an awesome plot. It could be, but it probably won't be as far as I'm concerned, because it will be full of ridiculous declarations by Marten and Faye that they don't have those feelings. There's no way in hell that makes sense for the characters as they were up until around 1650, but that's the way things apparently are right now.
<snip>Also does Marten still want Faye?Probably not right now, but given a month or two? I'd say yeah, but what the hell do I know. I'd say yeah based on the whole comic up until about 150 strips ago, but then huge chunks of character history were casually tossed out the window in favour of new and more interesting plotlines.
Anyway, as much as I might want it, that avenue won't be explored any time soon if ever.Oh, I HOPE it won't. I think Marten and Faye share a great friendship. They love each other, but with a healty distance, and this is more than they could ever have in a sexual relationship.
Disagree completely.Disagree about the comic breaking character for various folk? Well, that's fine. Everybody is going to have an opinion. The cool thing about them is it doesn't matter worth a damn if yours and mine are different. It's OK for me to have mine, and OK for you to have yours. :-)
...Don't think I even need to say why. It's been gone over like ten times in the last week.
To clarify my opinion as stated above, though... I'll just add on a little more here. Just because I believe Marten probably still likes Faye a lot doesn't mean I think he's going to do anything about it. In the highly unlikely event anything should happen, Faye would be the first to make a move. Maybe if she split up with Angus in due course for unrelated reasons, then Marten would make a move, but not right now or any time in the foreseeable future.How much, exactly, does Angus McPhee know of the history between those two? I mean he obviously knows some of it, and he's talked about it with Marten when they were being oh-so-very-fancy. But he may not know all the details. And if he finds out that Dora - who looks perfectly balanced and sane from the outside - had a breakdown and ended her relationship with Marten because she doesn't think she can trust him with Faye? I wonder what thoughts will go though Angus' mind.That could be an awesome plot. It could be, but it probably won't be as far as I'm concerned, because it will be full of ridiculous declarations by Marten and Faye that they don't have those feelings. There's no way in hell that makes sense for the characters as they were up until around 1650, but that's the way things apparently are right now.
I'd accept it if they admitted to having those feelings but that they weren't in a position to do anything about it, or that it's become to awkward to do anything about it... or pretty much anything that doesn't suggest they were replaced by lookalikes at some point in the recent past.
I'm not so crazy that I expect the author to go along with my wishes, but I would prefer if their current actions could make sense in light of their history. I don't think that's too much to hope for.
I disagree. Character history tossed out of the window? On the contrary, as pointed out in the Breakup Foreshadowing thread and the Dora/Marten Memoriam thread, there were signs of it. The recent development suits their history, it shows how far they have come.I never said Dora's development got tossed. To be fair I didn't specify, but I only think that specific aspects of Marten and Faye's character have been junked when they were inconvenient for the current storyline Jeph wanted to write. Now I come to think about it, in addition to that Hannelore has been rewritten from the ground up, actually. It just isn't so egregious in her case because lets face it, that character was pretty much written into a corner before she started getting personality retcons. It happened a bit at a time, and was cunningly paired up with believable development so it didn't look like the massive change it was, though. I accept that, because exaggerating her development beyond the strictly believable turned her into a great addition to the cast.
And the only opinion that matters is Jeph's.Exactly what I should have said in my first paragraph above. That's what I mean. I can say what I think until I'm blue in the face, and so can you and everyone else. Why should it matter? Jeph finds this forum distasteful, and so he's really not likely to be swayed by anyone's expressed opinion.
You only hurt the ones you love...
Really? And theres me thinking that we hurt the ones who really deserve it too....
Sven = Bro.
Not helping, Sven. Not helping.
haha, Oh Sven. I'm glad to see the comic slowly turning back to humor, unpleasant circumstances notwithstanding.
Not helping, Sven. Not helping.
No, but Sven's never been in Marten's current position, even with Faye. He's being the best friend he knows how to be, and I give him credit for that.
Actually I was a little surprised. A remark like that is very much like the old, pre-Faye version of Sven that we knew. Maybe the sheer awkwardness made him default back into Manwhore-mode.
Speaking on the whole 'Ghosts of Dora's past' subject-http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=960
I forget which comic it is, but it's the one after Hanner's apartment gets blocked off with paper, and they're talking about missing the obvious solution to the problem. Dora's quip?
"All of my relationships in college were like that. 'Oh, I can just break up with them!' (or something pretty close to that).
You know what that says to me, in light of recent events? Fighting to stay in the relationship is something Dora tried with all of her previous asshole boyfriends. And now she's too afraid to try it again, probably because it always got worse after she stayed in a relationship she shouldn't have.
Or maybe I'm reading too much into one throw away joke. Definitely a possibility.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=960
Probably just me, but Marten's face and dialogue in panel two has me thinking that he's far more upset about this than he's let on. It has me wondering when the other shoe will drop for him.Glad I'm not the only one feeling this. I predict much drink in the boy's future. Possibly followed by rage.
Probably just me, but Marten's face and dialogue in panel two has me thinking that he's far more upset about this than he's let on. It has me wondering when the other shoe will drop for him.Glad I'm not the only one feeling this. I predict much drink in the boy's future. Possibly followed by rage.
Hanners?: sorrysorrysorrysorrysosososorry -panic attack-
hanneloreEC oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no #panicattack #sadfriends #everythingisawful #hashtags #aaa
Glad I'm not the only one feeling this. I predict much drink in the boy's future. Possibly followed by rage.
I think he's in rage mode now. He doesn't seem mopey, he's bitter. Mopey is yet to come.
Yeah, he's going to snap and completly lay into somebody.
I'm betting it'll be Hannelore.
And then she cries and he totally fells guilty about it and everyone tries to tell him that it wasn't his fault but he just can't stop beating up on himself.
Yeah, he's going to snap and completly lay into somebody.I'm betting it'll be Hannelore.With his peeennniiiiissssss. :mrgreen:
Although I could see that happening unfortunately...Everyone offering sympathy for Marten, Hanners comes over to offer her sympathies, Marten is sick of it and snaps.
Although I could see that happening unfortunately...Everyone offering sympathy for Marten, Hanners comes over to offer her sympathies, Marten is sick of it and snaps.
Lordy, I hope not.
This last series of strips has been really depressing, and it's a dark uber-cold winter here to boot. More angry-ness and yelling and snapping would just bring it down further.
I'd rather have a week of Turkeys or Yelling Bird or a Marigold marathon.
Marigold marathon would be awesome, just her dancing all week. Awesome.
Now the real question: how many times will Jeph have the turkeys make fun of forum-goers?
What happened to the poll option, anyway ?When I put this together Sunday, I really didn't want to have a poll in case the thread got weird like last week's.
Oh and just a random though. Dora's counselor should be the guy from the Geico commercials.
You mean R. Lee Ermey (don't think I spelled it right)? Honestly, that would be disasterous in a way that would be oh so very awesome!
Why insult us all collectively?
akronnick, that's the second time I've seen you collectively speak for the entire forum in a negative fashion.
Maybe you and the Dick Knights are nutty, but the rest had nothing to do with the clusterfuck that was the last WCT.
Why insult us all collectively?
Because we deserve it...
And because Jeph knows we'd keep reading anyway.
And because most of us would get a kick out of it, and the ones who would be offended can, well, their so vain, they probably think this song is about them, if you know what I mean.
2)Yay to see Sven! I think that he's been a bit misjudged by a lot of the QC fandom, although I'm not going to dispute his status of playboy. I'll admit, I'm rooting for Sven/Marigold fling. I'm not sure I'd want it to last forever, but think there's a lot that they could teach each other.I was trying to figure out what Marigold could teach Sven and drawing a blank. Then I remembered that Blizzard just dropped that new world-changing patch so I guess Mari could teach him how to respec his hunter (Because we all know that's what Sven would play (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1424)).
Am I the only one who thought (for a millisecond) Sven was about to say "And if you need some meaningless rebound sex, I'm always here for ya"?
...I think that most of the fans have been reading a long time and thus connections with the characters have grown pretty personal.
2)Yay to see Sven! I think that he's been a bit misjudged by a lot of the QC fandom, although I'm not going to dispute his status of playboy. I'll admit, I'm rooting for Sven/Marigold fling. I'm not sure I'd want it to last forever, but think there's a lot that they could teach each other.I was trying to figure out what Marigold could teach Sven and drawing a blank. Then I remembered that Blizzard just dropped that new world-changing patch so I guess Mari could teach him how to respec his hunter (Because we all know that's what Sven would play (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1424)).
Stupid things were said and done across the board.
It's a bit quieter and more respectful in here, now. I think some of the chaff blew away.
Stupid things were said and done across the board.
Pun intended?
Is it worrying or worring?
He's so shiny and handsome I may swoon. :psyduck:
Stupid things were said and done across the board.
Pun intended?
Oh god yes.
2)Yay to see Sven! I think that he's been a bit misjudged by a lot of the QC fandom, although I'm not going to dispute his status of playboy. I'll admit, I'm rooting for Sven/Marigold fling. I'm not sure I'd want it to last forever, but think there's a lot that they could teach each other.I was trying to figure out what Marigold could teach Sven and drawing a blank. Then I remembered that Blizzard just dropped that new world-changing patch so I guess Mari could teach him how to respec his hunter (Because we all know that's what Sven would play (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1424)).
MariSven was meant to beor what about DaleMariSven trio!??!?!?!?!
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654)
Am I the only one who thought (for a millisecond) Sven was about to say "And if you need some meaningless rebound sex, I'm always here for ya"?
It's funny that a strip can both be a serious, character-building moment and lead inexorably to slashfic style discussion. :psyduck:
Random thought: did someone remember to come pick up Mieville? Does Mieville get along with Sven's cat?Then Marten doesn't have to worry about a lack of pussy now he broke up with his girlfriend. Does life get any better. I say no.
What if Mieville decides he likes Marten and Faye's apartment better?
Anyway, yay for bringing back the funny. And for Sven. He's so shiny and handsome I may swoon. :psyduck:
I'm interested to see what would happen if he did that "look" to Marty. Purely out of curiosity, of course.
I'm interested to see what would happen if he did that "look" to Marty. Purely out of curiosity, of course.
He'd probably miss again, and hit...
Steve.
Poor Cosette...
Well, given http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1551 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1551) she has probably seen worse?
Y'know what's really terrible about this timing?
Now it'll be too awkward for the gang to have Thanksgiving dinner[/u] at Dora's parents' house.
(http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1032)
Let's be fair, here. Marten is not actually going to hook up with Jimbo.
Jimbo's just going to write a story where the author-avatar James gets into a relationship with his young friend Marven.
Silly turkeys.
Those turkeys would fit right in around here!
Faye PERFECT for Marten? Not until Marten develops more of a spine, otherwise Faye will walk, nay STOMP, all over him.
the best part of this fan-plotline would be the _look_ on Marten's face when he finishes reading, and looks up to see an expectant longing look on Jimbo's moustachio'ed face.
I never said Dora's development got tossed. To be fair I didn't specify, but I only think that specific aspects of Marten and Faye's character have been junked when they were inconvenient for the current storyline Jeph wanted to write.
Now I come to think about it, in addition to that Hannelore has been rewritten from the ground up, actually. It just isn't so egregious in her case because lets face it, that character was pretty much written into a corner before she started getting personality retcons. It happened a bit at a time, and was cunningly paired up with believable development so it didn't look like the massive change it was, though. I accept that, because exaggerating her development beyond the strictly believable turned her into a great addition to the cast.
Turkey Sandwiches!!!!! :-D
the best part of this fan-plotline would be the _look_ on Marten's face when he finishes reading, and looks up to see an expectant longing look on Jimbo's moustachio'ed face.
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e280/Selexor/QC/QCHappy.png)
More random prognostication... Marten's mentioned in the past that his dream job would be to be a professional musician. The one person in the music industry (though not a musician himself) in the strip is Sven. Might Sven's invitation to come over and jam sometime eventually lead to an opportunity for Marten to try and make a career out of music? Might Sven even decide to take his artistic integrity out of the gimp suit and form some sort of Sven Bianchi/Deathmole supergroup?
Those turkeys would fit right in around here!
Seems to me that Sven is left-handed (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=519)?
Yes, right in the deep fryer, then onto the table next to the mashed potatoes.
What?
Yes, right in the deep fryer, then onto the table next to the mashed potatoes.
What?
Not before they get stuffed with a duck stuffed with a chicken and wrapped with bacon! (http://bacontoday.com/turbaconducken-turducken-wrapped-in-bacon/comment-page-8/)
Oooh, Jimbo and Marten. Marten will make his daddeh proud.
Like father, like son. :D
Rather than consult the disturbing images (too many possibilities may assault my poor innocent mind), I will simply ask - how's the dinner coming along?
Seems to me that Sven is left-handed (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=519)?
I may be totally wrong, but isn't it so that when a right-handed person is playing, the fretboard points to the left? Basically because you are playing right-handed, so you press the strings to the fretboard with your left hand. At least that's the way I was told to do it, when I was ploinking a guitar.
Happy thinksgiving, those of you who celebrate it. And if you're in the US and not able to celebrate it, remember that there are places that can help. The church I attend (my wife's church, I'm non-theistic) is cooking for 50 today, they usually get about that many, and walk-ins are always welcome. It's like that everywhere. There's no reason to be alone if you don't want to be.
Elizabeth Cotton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cotten) played a standard (right-handed guitar) left handed, without restringing it.
Elizabeth Cotton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Cotten) played a standard (right-handed guitar) left handed, without restringing it.
As did Dick Dale. Y'know, the guy who did that crazy guitar for the soundtrack of Pulp Fiction. And inspired Jimi Hendrix.
Who's Jimbo?
:psyduck:
Who's Jimbo?
:psyduck:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=180
I'm sure there's earlier (and most definitely later), but...this gives you a good indication.
What did Marten go to school for anyway? (I should really know this.)He studied music history and critical theory. The fastest way to find this out is on the wiki.
Lets go for quality this week, instead of quantity.
How would you even eat Turducken? Has anyone here tried it?
How would you even eat Turducken? Has anyone here tried it?
My guess would be with a knife and fork.
The birds are de-boned prior to stuffing and roasting, so the result would be a huge pile of bird-flesh.
Sorry Dora/Tai fans. You have my condolences. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=222)
Sorry Dora/Tai fans. You have my condolences. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=222)
I think you've got it confused. Here's the way I interpret that dialogue. No sarcasm present.Sorry Dora/Tai fans. You have my condolences. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=222)
Actually Pika, that was Dora being sarcastic as usual. She has actually admitted to being bi. She's occasionally let on she wouldn't mind bedding Faye, but she also admits she's monogamous when she's in a relationship and wouldn't fool around.
My uncle cooked turducken once. It was an experience not to be repeated. Or spoken of.
Smoked turkey is the best. Bonus points for turkey pastrami!
Sorry Dora/Tai fans. You have my condolences. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=222)
Oh god.....poor sad Hannelore...I can't take it :cry:
Raven: That's so sad!
Faye: Silly little empath, it's okay. Don't cry, I'll be fine. Eventually.
Oh no! A sad face! The saddest face!
(I love Gunnerkrigg Court)
Watching Jeph draw Panel 3 on the stream was entertaining; Hanners just got sadder and sadder the more he worked on it.
D
Sorry Dora/Tai fans. You have my condolences. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=222)
ORLY? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776)
Who's Jimbo?
:psyduck:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=180
I'm sure there's earlier (and most definitely later), but...this gives you a good indication.
It's always the kids who get hit hardest by a breakup...Yeah.
That would give her a chance to go break into their apartment, bust open the french-fry hoodie, dig out one of Dora's party favors (the purple one) and fall asleep on their couch, blubbering and hugging the detritus of a failed relationship.
cutest hanners ever in panel two though.
seriously, with those green eyes so big?
Yeah, there is no way in hell that Dora told Sven to pick her party favours up for her, or that he'd do it even if she had.
That's just... no. NO.
Yeah, there is no way in hell that Dora told Sven to pick her party favours up for her, or that he'd do it even if she had.
That's just... no. NO.
Why not, he probably picked up a box with all her underwear and stuff. It's not like he has to open the box or even know what's in it in order to pick it up. Dora would just say "bring back all the boxes in the closet in my room" or something.
The CoD Blackboard (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1805)
Specials
none today.
fuck off.
It's always the kids who get hit hardest by a breakup...Yeah.
What did Marten go to school for anyway? (I should really know this.)He studied music history and critical theory. The fastest way to find this out is on the wiki.
EDIT: I should have put a link there, shouldn't I? http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Marten_Reed#Education
Oh god.....poor sad Hannelore...I can't take it :cry:
I'm reminded of the strip (516, it turns out) where Faye tells the CoD girls about her past (immediately following The Talk), and Raven takes it rather hard:Quote
Raven: That's so sad!
Faye: Silly little empath, it's okay. Don't cry, I'll be fine. Eventually.
I don't recall anyone else mentioning this paticular comic #, so here's a Social Anxiety Dora Admitting She Has Big, Longtime Problems comic:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=293 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=293)
Remember, folks -- cats make terrible psychologists. :-D
Don't give up, though. When it works, it's worth it.Carl-E; have you ever had a moment when you've walked into your house and your lady is yelling at one of the kids to stop <whatever> and get down from there, and just suddenly known you're home?
I don't recall anyone else mentioning this paticular comic #, so here's a Social Anxiety Dora Admitting She Has Big, Longtime Problems comic:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=293 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=293)
Remember, folks -- cats make terrible psychologists. :-D
This sent me to #515 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=515) (I like to check the context of strips), which left me with a mildly shocking realization... Hannelore's seen Marten's junk. Or course, to be fair, Marten's seen Hannelore's boob (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314), too...
I guess I never have to worry about you cheating on me.
He could always call Faye and ask, "Is Dora still there?"
Wow. Clearly I have much to learn regarding relationships. :-o
(that's wasn't sarcasm, I'm really admitting my inexperience in matters of romance. I've only been in one relationship myself :oops:)
I meant on her cell phone, doofus.
Faye DOES have one. This is, apparently, the 21st century.
"Faye, this is Marten. Is Dora there?"
"Hang on a sec. HEY, DORA!"
So... who gets Pintsize in the custody battle? :-D :-D :-DDora has a cat, and Marten has both a desktop and a laptop. Faye has neither. So perhaps the answer to your question is Faye's horrific daydream (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=623).
Dora: Hello? Hello?? (shuts off phone) Dammit Faye, that's the third time you've given me your phone and no one's there!I meant on her cell phone, doofus.
Faye DOES have one. This is, apparently, the 21st century.
Yeah I thought about that like 20 seconds after I posted but left it up anyway cause I still think it's funny :-D"Faye, this is Marten. Is Dora there?"Marten: (http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt71/Pittsburghistan/omg.gif)
"Hang on a sec. HEY, DORA!"
Oh, we're nowhere near through all th fallout. Next week will probably have most strips looking at Marten's day after - all we saw was morning with Faye, and Sven before he left for work. There's still Tai at work (could be a looong conversational arc there), and then after work - Steve, and Pastor Vodka. And Gary, the Tequila monster. Possibly Jimbo. Marten needs some company, and the ladies are occupied.
Also, Cosette didn't meet Steve thru the coffee shop, so the investor-wannabes are concerned.
Actually, in a weird convoluted way, CoD did play a part in Cosette and Steve hooking up.How so? Marten had already rejected her at the library, before she went to CoD.
I'm starting to dislike the way Jeph's writing Marten's handling of the breakup drama. I see no character development here at all. If Marten actually loved Dora like he said he did, he should be losing his shit over this for at least a month.
The obnoxious emo "meh, whatever" attitude that Marten is so well known for needs to stop, because it makes him more of a bland, uninteresting and unnecessary character than ever.
Or maybe, just maybe, despite the fact that yes, breaking up hurts, he realized that what Dora said made sense.
But we haven't actually seen how he's coping with it, other than hints that he's not handling it very well at all. Like I said before, and like others have said too, Marten might indeed be about to snap... but it hasn't even been a full day yet. Let the breakup sink in. And then, maybe, something can trigger him. I'm guessing Marten will manage to control himself until something pushes him over the edge. Then, though, you might wanna stand back.
True but emotional pain usually cannot be let go so easily in the face of logic, no matter how much sense the situation makes.
Now Faye should have gone apeshit ballistic and actually beaten on Sven, then snarkily hate him anytime she sees him.